1.) Roger Egbert is a legend 2.) Roger Egebert understands how pop culture works. Below is the last three sentences of his review: "But I may have completely bypassed the point and misinterpreted crucial Pokemon lore. This may disqualify me from ever becoming a Pokemon Trainer. I can live with that." He did a pretty good job.
But video games really can't be art....they're interactive visual medium with no outside interpretations on what each video game are. All the assets and the story are set in stone by the devs who make them, so therefore, video games can't be art because they can't be analyzed or reinterpreted by each person. So in conclusion: Video Games Are Not Art. And they should never be considered as such. They should just be considered "games", and "games" only. Roger Ebert got it right the first time before the legion of hardcore man children threatened him to change his mind.
if each individual visual element could be presented on its own as art, and if each track of music in the game can be presented as art, and if the narrative itself can be looked at and interpreted (as one does with books which are considered art), then yes video games are art. just because it isn't the kind of art you put in a gallery and stare at like some mona lisa doesn't mean there's no artistic merit. saying it's a medium while simultaneously saying it isn't art is literally contradicting yourself. Interactive visuals (plus audio, really) ARE the medium. If you think video games can't be interpreted or analyzed by individuals, then you clearly haven't seen the dozens of fan theories, speculations, discussions, or even fan-made ART (because people love creating their own interpretations of characters even if they have canon set designs) for video games. You'd have to be entirely out of touch with anyone who's played a decent video game for more than half an hour to think that people can't come up with their own personal interpretations or analyses of video games.
This has to be one of my all time favourite moments in CGI history. I spent that entire derailment laughing uncontrollably at how absurd some of those reviews were. Thank you Sun Chips Place God for making this a CGI animated bit.
lets get non anime fans to review a movie based on a anime show based on a video game and expect them to understand it..smdh...I feel sad for these grown ass men having to review a childrens film..
LiaThePenguinologist I found his full review and went back over it and apparently it means that the pokemon personalities are so one-dimensional that the flat personalities of the TMNT look super deep in comparison?? Was Billy Crystal known for his complex, vivid personality???
Billy Crystal was known for his ability to act as a variety of personalities. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were very similar in personality, but the lack of variety among the Pokemon personalities makes the Turtles look like Billy Crystal in comparison.
Frederick Eason But Billy Crystal is just Billy Crystal in every movie he's in. Like George Clooney. Barring O Brother, Where Art Thou? and Michael Clayton.
dude that's for real how I used to play yu-gi-oh with kids older than me who didn't know how. we would put down the monster cards and I'd be like "See mine has more life balls so I win this one" and take the cards.
Just to clear things up, some of the CoolGames Inc. Junior Sleuths figured out that Emil is Ebert's grandson: www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/roger-loves-chaz
I know it's not actually that important but this ep just...made me so angry....I'm not even that big a fan of the first movie but fuck's sake, 90's reviewers, it's a fun kid's franchise! Would you seriously take your kid to go see AKIRA or Mononoke? THEY'RE NOT THE SAME KIND OF MOViE!!!
This should be a 'Gam Dev Simulator' style game - You write the movie reviews, and the quality of your review effects movie sales and the future of the franchise/actors. Will your words condemn Billy Crystal to a lifetime of B-movie roles, or will you give him the chance to become a star?
ashs goal is never to catch them all ...thats literally false..he usually lets some go and doesnt go after many..smdh...the games about that..not the show
It was either on the Cheap Ass Gamer podcast or the Player One podcast, but one of the hosts said that that is how kids would play with Pokemon cards. They wouldn't know the real rules and just throw down cards and compare the power ratings of moves. So it IS like war.
I remember playing Yu-gi-oh with the original series rules. Cos... y'know we were kids and didn't realise they actually set rules that were different from the show.
I hope Emil still has the cards he scammed off that reviewer because that's one of those things you keep around forever so when your grandkids find them in a dusty scrapbook, you have a cool story to tell them
To the guy making these vids: Griffin falling off the left side and then slowly laughing his way downward was the best thing ever. Please, more of that kind of thing, including Nick's head spinning. I'm laughing harder at the animation than the actual jokes when you do this stuff.
Ever wonder why every single Pokémon movie starts with "This is the world of Pokémon. Inhabited by mysterious creatures, etc. etc.", because the first one didn't have that, it assumed you watched the anime to know what was going on, so they tried to ease the new viewers.
movie 1 sorta has it with the dexter narrator ash instructions to Pikachu in the short and for a brief moment at the start when mew is flying and we are hearing the recorded scientist but like do you really need that?..how hard is it to understand?..its a movie based on a show based on a video game and takes place during the show ….sorry it isn't some new journey ….its not that hard to follow..its like watching land before time and needing dinosaurs explained or watching brave little toaster and needing toasters explained ..its simple...adults make it too complicated..just listen
I'm really glad they animated this! Next to Tara's profound misunderstanding of basketball and Shadow of the Colossus, this is one of my favorite bits from the show
When I was little whenever my mom would take us to the movie rental place I'd have her rent the fuckin' Pokémon movies (on VHS, ofc) over and over. Shit was lit
I'm pretty sure at one point in the episode griffin says that he could make a whole separate podcast reading Pokemon movie reviews and honestly? that would be amazing and I'd love it
How did the video editor get the polygons on the sides of Nick's and Griffin's portraits to bounce with the audio levels? Like what software does that?
HOLY SHITE THE POKEMON WAR THING BRINGS UP BAD FLASHBACKS My bro and I got some Pokemon Cards (And for some reason they were all monsters) but didn't have the rules or anything, so instead of googling it or anything, my crummy father is just like "Play war using the HP of the cards as the value." and like... He kept on having us play that for hours because he refused to let us watch TV. And that's the story of why I hate War.
The sad thing is I never before realized that's why Ash's last name is Ketchum, it's one of those things you hear until you dont pay attention to; RIP me
I listened to this podcast episode in the car and I had to pull over and stop driving because I was laughing so hard I couldn't see. thanks for trying to murder me, soft boys.
If you didn't like the movie, fine, but at least make your review make sense and have some knowledge of what you're reviewing like what the fuck even are half if these lmao
As someone who has no connection to The Pokemans, I'm on the critics side. The fans didn't need reviews to see the movies, the critics were reviewing for people like me. Anything I've seen related to Pokemon has been obnoxious incomprehensible garbage. I did play through one of the games, though. It was fine.
jim dime As a lifelong pokemon fan, I've gotta admit the animated stuff won't hold up at all if your imagination hasnt already been captured by the games.
Oh, come on! The critics were being overly hard on the movie, because they think every anime has to be like Akira. So, they saw a shitty kids movie and lost their fucking minds about it. I'm usually not the one to pull the "it's a kid's movie" card, but come on! It's a bad movie, but you'd think they sat through The Room or something.
Learning about a 6 yr old scamming a movie critic out of his Pokémon cards is easily one of the funniest things I've heard
1.) Roger Egbert is a legend
2.) Roger Egebert understands how pop culture works.
Below is the last three sentences of his review:
"But I may have completely bypassed the point and misinterpreted crucial Pokemon lore. This may disqualify me from ever becoming a Pokemon Trainer. I can live with that."
He did a pretty good job.
His only failing was insisting that video games could not be art.
Virgil Alonso "Egbert"
Didn't he recant that years later?
But video games really can't be art....they're interactive visual medium with no outside interpretations on what each video game are. All the assets and the story are set in stone by the devs who make them, so therefore, video games can't be art because they can't be analyzed or reinterpreted by each person.
So in conclusion: Video Games Are Not Art. And they should never be considered as such. They should just be considered "games", and "games" only.
Roger Ebert got it right the first time before the legion of hardcore man children threatened him to change his mind.
if each individual visual element could be presented on its own as art, and if each track of music in the game can be presented as art, and if the narrative itself can be looked at and interpreted (as one does with books which are considered art), then yes video games are art. just because it isn't the kind of art you put in a gallery and stare at like some mona lisa doesn't mean there's no artistic merit. saying it's a medium while simultaneously saying it isn't art is literally contradicting yourself. Interactive visuals (plus audio, really) ARE the medium.
If you think video games can't be interpreted or analyzed by individuals, then you clearly haven't seen the dozens of fan theories, speculations, discussions, or even fan-made ART (because people love creating their own interpretations of characters even if they have canon set designs) for video games. You'd have to be entirely out of touch with anyone who's played a decent video game for more than half an hour to think that people can't come up with their own personal interpretations or analyses of video games.
What this clip is missing is MULTIPLE REVIEWERS DESPERATE TO COMPARE POKEMON THE FIRST MOVIE TO AKIRA
don't forget princess mononoke oh my they were desperate to get people to watch that instead hahaha
"At the end of the game, Emil had all 52 cards."
6 year old Emil: 1
Professional Reviewer: 0
Well played Emil, well played.
Emil: 52
Reviewer: 0
emil is my fucking idol
In my headcannon, Emil is Chuggaaconroy
A-ANON thx
GNURT! C'mon!
Emil is 23 now. I wonder if he's still scamming olds.
SJ Hackney he probably is, but is also probably disappointed with how easy it is nowadays.
he misses the chase. the true con
"Humble yourself before Mew-Two"
This has to be one of my all time favourite moments in CGI history. I spent that entire derailment laughing uncontrollably at how absurd some of those reviews were. Thank you Sun Chips Place God for making this a CGI animated bit.
lets get non anime fans to review a movie based on a anime show based on a video game and expect them to understand it..smdh...I feel sad for these grown ass men having to review a childrens film..
I STILL DONT KNOW WHAT THAT PERSON MEANT WITH THE BILLY CRYSTAL THING
LiaThePenguinologist I found his full review and went back over it and apparently it means that the pokemon personalities are so one-dimensional that the flat personalities of the TMNT look super deep in comparison?? Was Billy Crystal known for his complex, vivid personality???
Billy Crystal was known for his ability to act as a variety of personalities. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were very similar in personality, but the lack of variety among the Pokemon personalities makes the Turtles look like Billy Crystal in comparison.
Frederick Eason But Billy Crystal is just Billy Crystal in every movie he's in. Like George Clooney. Barring O Brother, Where Art Thou? and Michael Clayton.
As an actor, maybe, but as a comedian he was famous for his impressions.
It means the reviewer was upset none of the Pokémon put on blackface during the movie
I love how Griffin tries to correct Nick's pronunciation of Emil but then decides "nah its not worth it"
"Katcham" actually sounds like a fucking Pokémon name
it will be a pokemon, believe me
Isnt that what the dude from the carmovie says?
dude that's for real how I used to play yu-gi-oh with kids older than me who didn't know how. we would put down the monster cards and I'd be like "See mine has more life balls so I win this one" and take the cards.
teacupika yu-gi-oh taught me how to scam people. And that's exactly how lol
Screw the rules, I have money.
Just to clear things up, some of the CoolGames Inc. Junior Sleuths figured out that Emil is Ebert's grandson:
www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/roger-loves-chaz
nice pfp
@@nintara3746 Thanks!
@@Champiness np
Boyp howduy is starting to be my favorite ongoing joke with Polygon
I don't see it, was that in this video?
Look at :46
It reads
Pokemon the First Movie
Boyp howduy
Oh god, how did I miss that? Thanks.
how did the joke start?
Ash Correll thank you! :-)
boyp howduy
whers that from
Please Retweet; a show on Polygon hosted by Patrick Gill.
oh thats why it sounded familiar
this movie starts out on my bday and I haven't stopped talking about it since I was born, since I was fresh out the womb
I know it's not actually that important but this ep just...made me so angry....I'm not even that big a fan of the first movie but fuck's sake, 90's reviewers, it's a fun kid's franchise! Would you seriously take your kid to go see AKIRA or Mononoke? THEY'RE NOT THE SAME KIND OF MOViE!!!
This should be a 'Gam Dev Simulator' style game - You write the movie reviews, and the quality of your review effects movie sales and the future of the franchise/actors. Will your words condemn Billy Crystal to a lifetime of B-movie roles, or will you give him the chance to become a star?
SamKablam I would play THE SHIT out of this game.
"Gotta catch 'am all! "
ashs goal is never to catch them all ...thats literally false..he usually lets some go and doesnt go after many..smdh...the games about that..not the show
It was either on the Cheap Ass Gamer podcast or the Player One podcast, but one of the hosts said that that is how kids would play with Pokemon cards. They wouldn't know the real rules and just throw down cards and compare the power ratings of moves. So it IS like war.
I remember playing Yu-gi-oh with the original series rules. Cos... y'know we were kids and didn't realise they actually set rules that were different from the show.
I could never afford full decks, so I ended up pretending to play with individual cards. I remember my dad being BAFFLED.
To be fair, for a game targeted at children, the Pokemon TCG is _insanely_ complicated.
SCREW THE RULES!
I hope Emil still has the cards he scammed off that reviewer because that's one of those things you keep around forever so when your grandkids find them in a dusty scrapbook, you have a cool story to tell them
Thank you for making a clip for this. This is my favorite episode of the podcast
To the guy making these vids: Griffin falling off the left side and then slowly laughing his way downward was the best thing ever. Please, more of that kind of thing, including Nick's head spinning. I'm laughing harder at the animation than the actual jokes when you do this stuff.
Ever wonder why every single Pokémon movie starts with "This is the world of Pokémon. Inhabited by mysterious creatures, etc. etc.", because the first one didn't have that, it assumed you watched the anime to know what was going on, so they tried to ease the new viewers.
movie 1 sorta has it with the dexter narrator ash instructions to Pikachu in the short and for a brief moment at the start when mew is flying and we are hearing the recorded scientist but like do you really need that?..how hard is it to understand?..its a movie based on a show based on a video game and takes place during the show ….sorry it isn't some new journey ….its not that hard to follow..its like watching land before time and needing dinosaurs explained or watching brave little toaster and needing toasters explained ..its simple...adults make it too complicated..just listen
Thank you, soft boys, for making this sad man laugh a lot for a while.
"this is a movie that knows its audience" yeah that's 100% accurate lol
You're telling me this whole time I've been watching Nick Robinson and MBMBaM and NEVER KNEW THAT THEY WERE CONNECTED???
I'm really glad they animated this! Next to Tara's profound misunderstanding of basketball and Shadow of the Colossus, this is one of my favorite bits from the show
I can acknowledge my memories of the first movie just being nostalgia, but I'm pretty sure 2000 was dope.
TacitIron Hav Hell yeah it was!
I love how they included Pat's Toad tweet in there. "Boyp howdu..."
Someone still loves you Boris Yeltsin
"ehmill"
So I just found this out. Just to give some insight, The Room, Howard the Duck, and even Cats got better scores than Pokémon: The First Movie.
When I was little whenever my mom would take us to the movie rental place I'd have her rent the fuckin' Pokémon movies (on VHS, ofc) over and over.
Shit was lit
awwwwwwww. no "akira-esk"?
I'm pretty sure at one point in the episode griffin says that he could make a whole separate podcast reading Pokemon movie reviews and honestly? that would be amazing and I'd love it
Shout-out to Clayton for sneaking in 'boyp howduy' from "Please Retweet"
That simile is so bad it makes Billy Crystal look like the NInja Turtles
How did the video editor get the polygons on the sides of Nick's and Griffin's portraits to bounce with the audio levels? Like what software does that?
HOLY SHITE THE POKEMON WAR THING BRINGS UP BAD FLASHBACKS
My bro and I got some Pokemon Cards (And for some reason they were all monsters) but didn't have the rules or anything, so instead of googling it or anything, my crummy father is just like "Play war using the HP of the cards as the value." and like... He kept on having us play that for hours because he refused to let us watch TV. And that's the story of why I hate War.
Someone prototyped a real game based on this!! Look up "Munchlax Analysis itch.io" and you'll find it.
Why did I never watch these until now. Fuck me, so good.
i want the whole thing to listen to
edit: way to come through in my time of tribulation, RSS
The Bart Man
Nice "The Critic" reference. That show was the tits.
I just realised, we literally used to play this "war" version of Pokemon cards when I was in primary school. I don't think I even know the real rules.
god this bit was so good. thanks boys
I finally found Emil....it's Ebert's stepchild's kid
can we get a 'humble yourself before mewtwo' shirt please
The sad thing is I never before realized that's why Ash's last name is Ketchum, it's one of those things you hear until you dont pay attention to; RIP me
are there any more of these guys reading old reviews? that should be a miniseries
Emil pulled a fast one
Best review of this movie is still the Movie Boys Jim and Conrad on Spin-off Doctors.
I do not like the Griffin simulacrum. He’s staring into my soul. Hungry.
Boyp Howduy
I wish Ash were trying to catch 'am all. I WANT MY LIFE BACK POKEMANS.
Is "Emil" also the kid from "Fucking Stop It, Kyle"?
The precious boys have been animated
Emil seems cool, but he's no cheeto champion.
ｉｔ ｍａｋｅｓ ｔｈｅ Bort ｌｏｏｋ ｊｕｓｔ ｌｉｋｅ The Bart Man
i would have assumed emil was pronounced like em-eel lol
It is, usually
(although i used to read it the same way nick did)
Emil chaotic evil
Some of the critic reviews I found online from back in the day were straight-up xenophobic and insulting.
Boyp howdy
I was hoping it was gonna be bad Pokemon: The First Movie fan fiction
You gotta humble yourself before mewtwo
Hol' up, hol' up, hol' up, hol' up be humble
Yeah but was it good or not
EMIL WINS
"emil" ..emile? chuggaaconroy??
Three years too young to be him, sadly
I listened to this podcast episode in the car and I had to pull over and stop driving because I was laughing so hard I couldn't see. thanks for trying to murder me, soft boys.
Some critics and fans hate the 4kids dub of the movie.
Love me nick
Wouldn't it be pronounced "E-mil"? no?
If you didn't like the movie, fine, but at least make your review make sense and have some knowledge of what you're reviewing like what the fuck even are half if these lmao
This video is extremely hard to follow
Boyp howduy
Pokémen
Support comment
Yes
Lmfao!
i`m pretty sure they just gave it a bad review because its based off of a game, but the movies are actually good.
"Cristal" not "Crystal"
This really triggered me
The Japanese version is not horrible
As someone who has no connection to The Pokemans, I'm on the critics side. The fans didn't need reviews to see the movies, the critics were reviewing for people like me. Anything I've seen related to Pokemon has been obnoxious incomprehensible garbage.
I did play through one of the games, though. It was fine.
jim dime As a lifelong pokemon fan, I've gotta admit the animated stuff won't hold up at all if your imagination hasnt already been captured by the games.
Oh, come on! The critics were being overly hard on the movie, because they think every anime has to be like Akira. So, they saw a shitty kids movie and lost their fucking minds about it. I'm usually not the one to pull the "it's a kid's movie" card, but come on! It's a bad movie, but you'd think they sat through The Room or something.
Delusional fanboys clouding their judgement through nostalgia. This movie was awful, every way you look at it...just awful.
Who hurt you?
The dub version is awful
boyp howduy