Introducing: X1 Pro Gen 4
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
- Orders available January 2024. Are you ready for the extreme?
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Like others, I'm hopeful the magnet issue have been addressed. However, on the technical side, I'm quite curious to know the changes? What's been done to remedy that? I ask with the context of some phrasing issues on the site regarding how they were retained on the gen3, and knowing that the SPM design has been a challenging piece to get reliable at high RPM.
Would love to see a teardown and explanation. Maybe even a technical dive. Turn one of your engineers loose and let them nerd out for us :)
Yes we need an engineers nerd-out video asap
Awesome!
🔥 I’ve had my gen 2 for 3 years and it still running like a champ
Glad to hear it! Cheers!
I can’t wait to post some videos reviewing this setup i think this product will do very well in the Australian market im very excited to get my gen 4❤❤❤❤❤
Awesome stuff! Looking forward to seeing your build!
Great news for some, but the Photon is the real winner so PLEASE invest more resources into that. It is fantastic product let down by a lack of DIY and local support.
Photon can be used by mainstream riders almost legally in many countries, the X1 Pro cannot.
Also, PLEASE repackage and get your batteries some decent certification. Battery safety is becoming an real concern so non UL certified batteries are not going to be permitted to be used in many places.
We'll release more news on the Photon that has already received some updates in the latest shipments. Since the latest Photon batch has already received updates, we've decided to finalise the X1 Pro Gen 4 as we've already been working on the X12 for a long time.
UL certification for batteries has indeed been growing as a requirement across the globe. We are working on it :)
@cycmotor thank you, looking forward to more information. My Photon is going well and I absolutely love it. On the battery, I was gutted to find there was no certification at all for the pack itself, the certification quoted is applicable to the cells themselves. I personally have no reservations about the safety of the battery, but that won't work when public facilities won't allow uncertified batteries.
@cycmotor thank you, looking forward to more information. My Photon is going well and I absolutely love it. On the battery, I was gutted to find there was no certification at all for the pack itself, the certification quoted is applicable to the cells themselves. I personally have no reservations about the safety of the battery, but that won't work when public facilities won't allow uncertified batteries.
All this hype for a new motor and it’s not even IPM (I assume). Also it’s rated for 5kw just like the previous one. Maybe it will actually do 5kw now without destroying itself? 🤷🏻♂️
IPM?
Internal Permanent Magnet. Its a specific rotor design that most brushless motors are using (like Tesla and the new Talaria) that incorporates the magnets inside the rotor so they have no chance of flying out and causing cartographic motor damage like their current motor design. @@IronX77
IPM means Internal Permanent Magnet. That just means the magnets are inside the motor. I've been using the gen2 pro motor for around a year at 5-7 Kw without any issues
Cyc known for quality control issue. Like 30% units release have to counter at least one or two small error.
Hope this one lasts longer than 50 miles from new before the magnets defragment!!!
Hi there, we've specifically addressed this issue with the new Gen 4 motor. The main reason for pairing the X12 with a longer motor is specifically for better durability mainly through better heat dissipation adding less strain to the magnets.
I have a Pro gen2 that's been perfect for over 1000km.
ua-cam.com/video/NSW2I6zuzng/v-deo.htmlsi=rA_QRbIceHVJXwbh
Maybe they solved the problem with the rotor releasing magnets. If they did then very good!
That's correct!
When they start shipping?... my battery already arrived, still waiting for the motor :( since December, was told it'd come in January, it's already mid-January.
Will there be a stealth version and a slimmer battery ?
We have no current plans for making a Gen 4 Stealth version but all Gen 3 Stealths are already shipping with the Gen 4 torque sensor by default.
We are also releasing new battery options in 2024.
Please provide replacement parts for your motors and improve reliability instead of releasing a new motor each year
Hi there, please feel free to let us know which parts you need and we'll be happy to help out! Contact support@cycmotor.com.
Fine, keep your specs a secret for now! 😁
its on the site, 25% longer motor, X12 controller that can do 2x as much power as the X6 on the Gen 3, but it's still only a 5000W rated motor
they claim it should have better thermal protection and have up to 280Nm crank torque (still the same, so it just seems to be a perhaps more durable motor and better controller)
@@BH4x0r lol, sounds to me this is the exact same stats, except now the motor is supposed to actually work well. I guess that's why they didn't show the stats in this trailer, that'd be embarrassing to present what we're already familiar with as "new"
@@BH4x0r I mean only 5k is still more than a lot of e-mopeds. If you need more you're looking for an electric motorcycle no?
@@noone-ld7pt no cause throttle is boring, but i meant that more as-in it's the 4th gen with the same power and torque number..
it would be cool if it could take what the controller can handle (8kW)
i don't see a big reason why anyone with an earlier gen should upgrade (apart from the motors breaking on the older ones), but i feel like they could make a better rotor for the older gens instead of an entire new product
You can check the main specs at www.cycmotor.com/x1-pro-gen-4
We've made it a NEW gen for a few different reasons but the most important upgrades pertain to durability and performance.
what battery do i buy along with the x1 pro gen 4 to make a bike go 50 mph
You will need a 72V 80A continuous battery.
The main reason for pairing the X12 with a longer motor is specifically for better durability mainly through better heat dissipation adding less strain to the magnets. this tells the average person absolutely nothing, firstly what is the "X12" i assume it's the controller, and "longer motor" does this mean the motor housing the magnets is now wider, yet slimmer than the original yet retaining the same surface area for magnets, instead why don't you concentrate on making a super reliable 30 mph motor at an affordable price, complete with a smallish lightweight battery and these would sell like hotcakes.
can we hook up our Bac2000 Controllers to this instead using the x12?
The ASI controllers are not compatible without loosing warranty and making changes to the system.
@@cycmotor ok. So it’s possible then
my bbshd broke totay so this is great news lol
Don’t count on it My gen 3 lasted 1200 miles, took 3 months for CYC to send the replacement part
There are a lot of improvements done to get the Gen 4 where the previous Gen issues were addressed. You can look forward to orders opening in mid Jan. We'll release the official date soon :)
Hi Tim, yeah that's not great and we're truly sorry for that! We've been strategising with key partners and with our internal management to streamline RMA. Sadly, these improvements take some time to implement but rest assured that they are being addressed.
@@cycmotor in my opinion that is unacceptable given the cost of the motor.
If I had of known I would not have purchased
this is just a cute bbshd, but one that breaks chains. with this much power you should have just also designed a custom sleeve and thicker gear for the shimano style/screw on style rear cassette. your product would have been 10 times more appealing than it is. people should just stick to bbshd's with 60v true 50a controllers.
Wrong.
everyone and their mom has problems with these things breaking. buy a bbshd, run it on a 72v controller, enjoy life.@@CoolWatts
nah thanks.. maybe if spare parts are also available online.. then i will take a look.
Hi there, all X1 Pro and Stealth parts are available at our online store and distributors. If you struggle to find anything, please feel free to contact support@cycmotor.com. We're happy to supply any parts needed.
My gen 3 already obsolete ?
Seems so
Not entirely. We'll be addressing all these questions in the CYC Owners Group on Facebook this week. Join here if you're interested: facebook.com/groups/407576456456280
can you make a installation video
The installation method is the same as the Gen 3 version: ua-cam.com/video/oERIs5JuxEc/v-deo.htmlsi=Ixi5cVsdE-ERAY7Y
We will be making a Gen 4 installation in the future :)
@@cycmotor thank you if i was to bye could i jus use the btarry that yours sell
Yes, our batteries are compatible (select the 40T cell options for the B-series). However, if you would like to be able to experience the full power capabilities of the system, then you would need a 72V 80A pack and purchase it from a local supplier. Our kits are open system so as long as you have an XT90 adaptor for the pack, it will work.
@@cycmotor thank you very much
@@cycmotor could you send me a link to where I could get one I am from Australia and where I live we don’t have battery shoes near me