The BEST Super Damage in Season 21 (Super Damage Testing) | Destiny 2 Season of the Deep
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Here's our post Season 21 update Super damage testing! All the changes, buffs, and nerfs are live, let's see what supers stand on top in the Season of the Deep sandbox. Drop your eggplant bets below.
#destiny2 #lightfall #season21
Check our the Pre-Season 21 Rankings here: • The BEST Super Damage ...
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:08 Daybreak / Dawn Chorus / Ember of Ashes
1:01 Chaos Reach / Geomags
2:34 Chaos Reach / Geomags / Thunderous Retort
3:15 Stormtrance / Crown of Tempests
4:12 Stormtrance / Stormdancer's Brace
5:20 Stormtrance / Stormdancer's Brace / Thunderous Retort
6:39 Cataclysm Nova Bomb
7:16 Vortex Nova Bomb
7:36 Nova Warp
8:45 Winter's Wrath / Ballidorse Wrathweavers
9:24 Winter's Wrath
9:57 Winter's Wrath / Ballidorse Wrathweavers 2
10:53 Needlestorm / Swarmers / Thread of Evolution / Mindspun Invocation
12:37 Mobius Quiver / Orpheus Rig
13:14 Spectral Blades / Gwisin Vest
14:47 Spectral Blades / Star-Eater Scales
15:57 Marksman Golden Gun / Celestial Nighthawk
16:41 Marksman Golden Gun / Celestial / Radiant / Kinetic Surge
17:43 Arc Staff / Raiden Flux
18:27 Arc Staff / Raiden Flux / Lethal Current / Thunderous Retort
19:39 Gathering Storm / Star-Eater Scales / Thunderous Retort
21:59 Silkstrike / Star-Eater Scales
23:18 Arc Staff / Blight Ranger / Sun Warrior / Thunderous Retort
27:05 Burning Maul / Synthoceps / Roaring Flames
29:05 Glacial Quake / Synthoceps / Whisper of Fissures
29:49 Fist of Havoc / Synthoceps
31:13 Fist of Havoc / Synthoceps / Thunderous Retort
31:57 Thundercrash / Cuirass of the Falling Star / Thunderous Retort
32:28 Sentinel Shield / Synthoceps
33:13 Super Ranking
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*Our Previous testing video from Season 20:* ua-cam.com/video/4EKWpV3tbQE/v-deo.html
Man you should test Chaos Reach with Sol Invictus
Blade barrage isn't on there?!
Strand
Bladefury?
You could've used howl of the storm during the glacial quake testing, it gives you a stronger light attack during supper and allows you to do the dps combo.
Edit: also there are bots in the comments responding to people saying they've been selected for something
i speak on behalf of the entire destiny community when i say we appreciate you and your team’s hard work making these kinds of videos, editing them, uploading them and everything else- no matter how much people try to downplay it. lots of love!!
im glad you spoke for the entire destiny community. because u chose to speak the truth
He and his team are goated ngl
TIL playing vidyagames is hard work.
But these tests are mostly wrong. He always tests only 1 Super. To achieve a correct result in the average, one should always test at least 10 times and map the average from this. Some super and abilities are used totally wrong which lead in false numbers.
@@fronchris4731 10 times? And map an average? lol Why? Just in case you're off by a couple thousand that doesn't matter?
It's a videogame and the damage testing is putting numbers out there. It's not like someone is going to come along and say, your Titan super damage is off by 2.7k, lol.
A test cannot be wrong if it's just putting a number out there. If he said he were doing damage testing on Champions, THEN this would be wrong, lol.
This man won't sleep till he's dead.
He's passionate about the game and his community
His last words...
*"Yah!"*
@@pch1370 "tha DAMAGE!"
Patch notesss!!
@@Justin032106 METAH!!
17:32 for anyone who didn’t see, that was with star eaters, not celestial. Still great damage. Thanks cross for doing this stuff
I was about to say, how he shoot 3 times with celestial?
Same here... I was confused as hell😅
Almost every video has some mistake of this kind, it's a shame
@Nexius I agree, this is why I don't take Cross's dps videos seriously at all.
@@gemininimeg oh no, the editors put the wrong cropped picture at the end of the video! Whatever shall we do!?!?!?
Well it seems you still watch his videos, and comment, so your outspoken displeasure is only benefitting the channel.
The biggest thing for me is that they finally renamed him back to Phry’zia instead of “Ravenous Ogre.”
Why’d they even change it?
@@giratinathe_distorter7480 because they accidentally copy pasted phryzia into the witch queen campaign and so they probably also accidentally changed phryzia's name when touching on the ogre in WQ.
When you take your boots off and see a new Aztecross video, the best feeling for a Destiny player in the service.
Or when putting them on before work 🫡
@@Username12346glob That is also true
Or when you take them off after your civilian job and reminisce about the time in the service.
Thank you for your service!
Thank you for your service!!!
Honestly daybreak was the sleeper hit imo, like basically matching chaos reach with thunderous and dawn chorus is a good exotic for general gameplay
i just wish we got old downblade back, that one super that refreshed super on kills naturally with no exotic needed, i got my first last wish clear running it on the entire raid back in arrivals, when dawn chorus was released i literally got insane, the most fun super for me got a buff, and subclasses 2.0 took everything from it...
@@atheon- bottom tree striker did as well
@@atheon- yeah bottom tree dawn will be missed. Recently I’ve rediscovered the love for solar that I had before well was a thing and the super has been a big part of it.
Been using Dawn Chorus with a crafted Tyranny of Heaven with Dragonfly/Incandescent and it's so spicy. The added scorch damage is massive and Dragonfly kills proc Incandescent as well. So if you kill enough adds with Dragonfly you can cause ignitions further out making the bow an add clearing machine. Even without ignitions the added scorch from Dawn Chorus clears redbars easily.
Most fun I've had with a weapon in a long time and people are definitely sleeping on it. Now they just need to combine Heat Rises and Icarus Dash and give us a new aspect that's actually usable in endgame PvE.
@@Voidova why use a bow tho
Bungie tried to make spectral blades better but they’re still lacking compared to every other hunter roaming super, 11k per hit on spectral, compare that to 54k per hit on silkstrike which is easier to land and has more range, close up roaming supers should have the most total damage as they’re harder to hit the target than range ones where you’re safe
To be fair it was by design intended to be a PvP focused super. Hunter already has two options for pve, one burst damage and other support. Silkstrike is the only super strand hunter has, so it makes sense for it to do much more damage. If they introduce a burst super to strand hunter and titan (which is unlikely since stasis has been sitting without new supers for nearly 3 years) then they would tune the roaming super's damage too.
But I agree, it should atleast not be so bad that it becomes a hindrance. bringing it around fists of havoc should be enough.
it looked like it was a pushing bug from the boss sending it back to where spec blades started moving the boss that was causing most of the missed swipes.
Trouble is, isn't spectral blades just not great in PvP too now? It takes so long to get that in some PvP modes it doesn't even come into play? (I don't play PvP much anymore, I just remember hearing about that ever since they nerfed the cooldown.)
@@godslayer9000 Unfortunately spectral blades sucks in pvp too. It takes forever to generate, grants basically no damage resistance compared to other roaming supers, and grants no extra speed. If someone sees you coming, they can just run away as fast as you can chase them, or they can just shoot you and you die as if you're not even in a super. It is quite literally the worst super in the game hands down, regardless of the activity.
It’s as simple as void is a free subclass for all players and stand is a paid subclass
Skull of Dire Ahamkara should increase the duration of Vortex Nova and Create more Seekers for cataclysm. Instead of buffing nova again make the the exotic for nova bomb useful.
Unless fixed today, lasting effects on grenades and some supers (like vortex nova) are bugged right now so it doesn't do as much damage as it should have. Recharge spam with Sunbracers basically don't work at the moment.
I feel like warlocks have the worst exotics in regards to helping supers
Believe me, buffed super by default is so much better than exotics. Just look at TC for example, without cuirass is does zero dmg, and now look at needlestorm that does a ton of dmg without any exotics involved.
Those are great ideas I'm for it
I really wish Bungie would give damage/build testers a room in the HELM to test damage and stuff like that, I would seriously love that too actually, just a room with a bunch of target dummies and another large object as a boss, and maybe numbers on a screen nearby that lets you know how much damage you just did to the boss target or stuff like that :)
That would be incredible
We had something like this during Season of Opulence, there was a space you could load into that you could spawn enemies on a podium that could be killed. Granted there were no bosses.
You'll get an aquarium and you'll like it
Or just give us the room back on the Leviathan that had the damage dummies on it
We had that. They took it away.
Don't cast your Rift before using Needlestorm. You want those perched Threadlings to be launched by your super not your class ability, so that they deal super damage.
the super doesn't send out perched threadlings?
@@tufbubblz Any attack you do against a target will send out Threadlings that are perched
@@gavo7911 it's only weapon damage and charged melees
@@gavo7911 imagine not knowing how a super works 😂
wrong. threadlings have different values based on what they are spawned from and perching threadlings will ALWAYS turn them into the grenade version of them. even if you have extra threadlings from a super go and perch they will instantly transform into grenade threadlings.
Appreciate the work and time you and team put in for this. Thanks.
Spectral suffers the same issue lament does. On client side, you’re pushing the enemy away from you, but on server side, they are standing still. What happens is you move forward with the client sided enemy and the game updates their position, making them teleport behind you where they were originally standing.
wow, if only bungie could've implemented dedicated servers anywhere in the nine years the game has been a thing!
In addition to total damage, I'd love to see a chart for damage over the duration to know what has the best DPS.
I like the gradients used in the word SUPER in the thumbnail. All the colors of the subclass blending together is a nice touch 👌
i love these long form videos. keep ‘em coming homie!!
Crazy how bungie can make a better warlock arc super for the hive than for guardians
So disappointing to see they finally acknowledged the lack of dmg and this is shitty fix theycamee up with
Yup the increase in damage is nice but it takes so long to use so why bother
@@mattgibbia2692 you guys literally don’t get the point of this super🤦🏻♂️ it’s one of the best supers in the game outside of boss dps. You can freeze then kill entire rooms of champs and ads in Gms/raids/dungeons in seconds.
Also he did the super wrong. Pop a stasis turret and then just spam the shockwaves and it gets 600-700k damage
@@maxw565 you guys literally don’t get the point of this super🤦🏻♂️ it’s one of the best supers in the game outside of boss dps. You can freeze then kill entire rooms of champs and ads in Gms/raids/dungeons in seconds.
Also he did the super wrong. Pop a stasis turret and then just spam the shockwaves and it gets 600-700k damage. It doesn’t have a lack of damage smh.
@@mattgibbia2692 because it’s op asf In Gms and raids. Just because it’s not the best for boss dps doesn’t make it not good. Not every super needs to be for boss dps
For Wrathweavers, sometimes you were firing two bolts instead of one which is a big nono for damage, because you use the super energy for two shots but only get one shatter. Fix by holding shatter button after tapping a fire
This is the video I was waiting for cross... you played with my feelings all week.
Finally been waiting for this all week! Cross and the team that carry him, thank you
This man’s out here doing the lords work
thunderous retort doesn't require you to be critically wounded, it can also be activated while amplified
He said that
He read that.
Thank you captain obvious
Y’all under this man’s comment do have eyes right? Yes he read it but if u we’re watching he was trying to be critically wounded instead of just getting amplified.
@@Malibus-Most-Wanted It's almost like that was the easiest way to proc it in the boss damage situation. Wild.
I remember a guy asking for the new damage numbers to be highlighted on a previous damage test video and you absolute chad editors have done it. GGs 🤙
Thanks for the damage test, you're a great youtuber.
THE DAWNBLADE SINGS ITS BURNING CHORUS ONCE AGAIN!!
Daybreak is the star of the show in terms of buffs if you ask me. It's up there despite being ranged, having a relatively short duration, and not needing a seasonal mod or hard to proc effect.
Star of what show exactly?
@@irwincardozo6713 don't be dense
@@irwincardozo6713 The "Most Improved by recent updates" Show. C'mon bud
He was using dawn chorus, tho, so that wasn't its base damage
@@attackmanatee02 Bud that wasn't any of their base damage. Cause if you remove super assisting exotics this entire list would be wack
I have been waiting for this, Thankyou Aztecross for the good content
Editor: Thank you for highlighting the current damage value. Very helpful!
Just a heads up for those who aren’t convinced longer super aren’t a viable trade-off for instant supers like T-Crash/ BB; you can run burst damage weapons like Parasite or support weapons like Gjally to give your teammates Wolfpack Rounds in tandem with your super and you will contribute a good amount to your dps.
Reversing this, you can run Anarchy to do over-time dps while you use your long super to damage.
Or you can just use a one and done super a support weapon and a fusion and still do more damage than a roaming super. Plus too many bosses now that it’s just stupid to try and use roaming supers against.
@@xs_alpaca224 I don’t care about one and dones doing more damage, it’s about making fun builds more varied. You’re not gonna do bonkers damage but it’s a good amount of dps.
all those hoops and still not viable lmao, stop the bs and abuse the meta so bungie either nerfs or buff the non meta exotics
@@ringomandingo1015 so? He’s still right and you’re still wrong. Going off with a one-off super is much better when you can follow up with a much better dps build afterward , and it’s not like you’ll focus all three of your weapon slot specifically just for clearing ads 🤷🏻♂️ I don’t get your point when this second comment you made just contradicted it
@@SordidusFellatio Wrong about what? I not saying roaming supers can be better than one offs. I’m saying that If you wanted to run a roaming super in a FUN BUILD, you could add certain weapons to spice up the experience and help the team a lil more.
I don’t care about what is meta or what can bring the highest damage, I’m trying to encourage others to try other stuff FOR FUN. Don’t say I’m wrong because you confused yourself and couldn’t understand what I’m saying.
Imo jolt applied by supers should have remained un-nerfed
Jolt didn't need a nerf in any form.
@@KaijuAlert Fr
@@KaijuAlert it absolutely needed a nerf since it was just an ignition that activates 8+ times while being easier to activate
@@Aj-py8en it's literally a free rocket with chain reaction worth of add clear that scales on ability damage, it's overpowered and still is
Thanks for putting in the work! I'm always curious about the data, especially when Bungie has just made changes. It's too bad they don't have an area like Warframe's Simulacrum. That was always nice to have for science purposes.
Thanks for the vid. These numbers help
Hey azetecross. For shadebinder/balidorse you need to throw a stasis turret out first. It’ll freeze the boss for you and you can just spam the shockwaves without needing to waste super energy on the freeze shot. You can get an extra 3 shockwaves off and do 600-700k
You smart asf never thought of this
The best way^
and he didnt have aspect on
nova needs like a 75-100% damage buff for it to be good.
Facts
The only good thing about it is that after throwing nova, can quickly start popping off with heavy.
@@richardgarcia406the trouble is when you can do the same thing with needles, there's no reason to use nova
@@coreypark3244 void has weakening which cancels out needles dmg advantage
@@coreypark3244You can also pop a few unraveling melees and several grenades in a single DPS phase with Needlestorm, while most teams pull out a tether for a higher debuff than weaken, in fact, I think it's about twice the value.
Huge, thanks for doing this
Thank you for your videos CROSS!
The thing with nova bomb is you want to use a weaken grenade first then use your super, it's a 1 and done super thats meant to add its damage to any DPS phase, like golden gun and thunder crash
No one takes that into account, alongside Thundercrash needing an exotic and its kit sucking with it.
That's largely irrelevant because someone will always be debuffing the boss anyway, so testing doesn't need it.
@@someguyusa in a raid boss scenario sure but thats not what im talking about, im talking about solo boss melts, nova bomb and a weakening grenade or even tractor cannon is a day 1 for me bcuz i dont look at it as my primary damage dealer, plus the kit has too much that benifit a solo players play style so as a someone who's soloed many dungeons a weaken grenade nova bomb is a perfect addition to any damage phase
@@big_gucci_scorpio328 All void can weaken before supers so Nova still suck compared to others
@@amerhst1201 thats because you look at it froma meta slaves poi t of view and dont see the fact its not supposed to be the best source of damage you have, but its instead supposed to be an additional source of damage to start a damage phase with
Some of these supers still need a very significant buff because the difference between the lowest and highest damaging supers is enormous.
I feel like that a bad take. The supers have different purposes. So they shouldn’t necessarily all be the same across the board. But some of them do need a buff still.
@NrdDy I feel like thats an even worse take. Fact of the matter is, the disparity from the top and the bottom- that gap is way too wide.
True that not all supers should be identical in damage but when you have the top super doing about 5x more that's an insane diffence especially if your soloing hard content and why certain builds end up being the ones most use. I have no issues with different damage ammounts between them but the lowest damage in this test should range from a minimum of 400k to the almost 1.1m. At least then even the weakest super would actually be useful against tanky bosses.
Finally iv been waiting for this
I haven't been playing the game as much lately but I still watch your videos a lot good content
I'm disappointed Nighthawk/GG is so terribly low. I get that it's a singular hit, so at 300k, it's actually one of the stronger single hitting things in the game, but it's given the risk/reward of the singular shot, it should feel more impactful
I want everyone to remember that the heavy slam for glacial quake was not buffed this patch just the light attack, meaning he behemoth could've broken 1mil dmg pre s21 as well.
On certain bosses… yes.
This is all awesome info and I appreciate it, but I really wish you would have done base super damage as well here so we could know what would work best during normal DPS phases with other builds
This is what I've been waiting for
blade barrage, strand titan? amazing work but could you add those in please?
Going into his stream I realized just how long it takes him to make these videos.
ngl these are definitely my favorite type of destiny videos
The one you were missing was Hammer of Sol lol. Great video cross
Echtar in Ghost of the Deep is ideal for Burning Maul and Glacial Quake. You didn't test Hammer of Sol or Bladefury. Still good video with useful info. Good work to you and your team.
Assuming he didn't test them because they didn't receive any buffs this season?
Wish you tested Behemoth using Howl of the Storm, since there was a 20% light attack buff theres a chance it recieved the damage increase which would have made it even more of a monster than it is
This is so damn satisfying 🤔
Love your content 👍
Been waiting for this one let’s see the results 👀
The new hunter exotic is the grand overture of glaive gloves. Being able to fire six winterbite blasts in a row is really strong
Heads up about this! If winterbite is overflowed, it loses it's melee damage bonus.
winterbite as a weapon also sucks ass unless the boss literally stands still like templar its near impossible to hit any boss that moves and to make things worse the exotic not only is worse than synthos but it also makes winterbite lose melee damage also even if you hit all projectiles the damage is lower than a rocket
Chaos reach needs another like 10%-15% buff
Yeah its still gud tho but give nova bomb like a 100% increase or an dmg exotic to make it do more dmg I like that chaos and dawnblade are super viable rn but damn nova bomb needs a fat buff
@@herrscher1904 That would make it stronger than pretty much every exotic none roaming super it hits almost 300K meaning it'd hit almost 600K. Tcrash hits 220K and 440K (Before including the seasonal mod) Blade is 340K with an exotic it hits about 590K. At most Nova should hit around the same base as the Hunter single use supers of 320-340K same with Tcrash and after they can go ahead and work on an exotic.
@Winter Eclipse you can't sit here and tell me that it doesn't need that kind of buff it put it right about at dawn chorus and geomags a nova bomb should do high dmg in a short burst yes needlestorm exist and that good and does around 550k just estimating here but that would make voidwalker Even more viable if nova just did high dmg it just sucks rn even with the 20% buff
@@herrscher1904 You can't sit there and say you read my entire comment when I literally said increase it to 320-340k the same as the higher base supers and then make an exotic
@Winter Eclipse if nova did 340k that's 10 to 15% buff needlestorm is still better then that how about this buff it to a point where it's about 400k see how it's is for bit if is still lacking make an exotic that increases nova dmg all in saying is that nova shouldn't be doing under 300k base it's should be around 400k or slightly higher you can't sit and tell me that warlock haven't had the worst supers for dmg for a gud long while until recently titan had plenty of options and so do hunters
Very much appreciated. This must have taken a bit of time just to test all super damage updates.
as a arc warlock. im happy that chaos reach is better in general and for this season is really nice. even did the new dungeon with clanmates and finally did the most dmg to boss hahaha
Why does he not use combination blow 3x before using arc staff and radian flux?
I hate that warlocks always get the shaft on supers. We're always stuck on well 😢
Thanks for putting that box around the new damage number, I get lost sometimes 😂
Yes these are great and much appreciated Thanks...Now the top tier groups we need a detail on what exactly is the build.
As others have mentioned, you used the Celestial icon instead of the Star Eater's icon for the damage numbers. I also wish you had replicated your Celestial Nighthawk test from the last video so we could compare those numbers and see if Celestial is finally worth using or not.
Believe it or not, but you are also capable of doing damage testing.
Celestial is not really worth using, for a very simple reason.
Star-Eaters do way more damage than it with the same exact super, and doesn't take away ALL of the damage if you miss one shot.
And shooting 3 marksman shots is still pretty quick.
@@jacktravis2718 Dude is just giving helpful, kind corrections, what the fuck? Cross likes accurate information why are you getting offended
@@tenacity25 yeah just don’t miss
@@jacktravis2718 all he said was he wished cross did the testing and believe it or not, you are capable of not being a dick for no reason.
I HAVE YET TO SEE AZTECROSS DO WINTER WRATH RIGHT!! YOU USE BLEAK WATCHER +PULSE (nonstop) FOR ~8SECS as it consumed NO super, Then MELEE + PULSE NORMAL. this doubles your dps
Great work！
I'm so excited to see lucky pants with Malfeasance catalyst when he does weapon testing
Is there something about the Conductive Cosmic Needle perk that I'm missing? Wouldn't that buff the damage of arc and void supers?
yes
@@candleewax Hm. Kind of wish that Aztecross had used it. Though I suppose that even for the top players it might just not be possible to get the XP required for it this week instead of waiting for next week's challenges.
That look of disappointment at 14:12 is exactly how it feels being a hunter and even THINKING about spectral blades
I've been waiting for this video too. First thing I saw around 6am. I asked myself which super was gonna be meta this season. Sad to see gathering storm went down this season.
I'd like to see Winter's Wrath (warlock stasis super) with a different source of freeze tested. spam stasis turrets around the boss (you can get many off if you use Osmiomancy gloves before swapping to Ballidorse), or have hunter stasis super with you.
then just spam the shattering shockwave ability (it doesn't even use energy)
That thunderous FoH was scuffed af. No way it's just an extra 3k. Also I truly believe after this season they're going to use the numbers to make it worth using your arc supers. They will probably put in a clause within all arc supers saying if amped you do more damage, without just buffing it completely making it a little more complicated for higher numbers would be cool to see.😊
Tbh that should've been a base part of the warlock's kit.
Half of their kit is all about being improved by being amplified, and half of it didn't touch subclass verbs at all until this patch.
we've had thunderous retort twice before and they didn't do it then so why would they do it now
Yeah it definitely is. Just did my own damage test to Greg with foh and it got 700k. You can get it higher definitely if you have your team debuffing the boss but just thunderous retort+synthos gets it high enough to the point I'm happy with it cause of it's ease of use. For Aztecross being a titan main he doesn't even know the true combo for foh. Cast in air, jump, light, heavy and repeat the last 3 steps as fast as you can until you're super is done. Flying all the way up is wasting time and damage.
The super meta remains relatively the same. Some roaming supers are better. But gathering storm and blade barrage are still the best damage supers in the game. Star eaters 3 shot only beats blade barrage with 3 kinetic surges. For the most part you’ll run surges matching your heavy not just so your super can barely beat out blade barrage.
I did not see him do blade barrage this video
Warlock Supers got elevated pretty damn hard, now Chaos Reach does more dmg than the Thundercrash
@@andreymavian3400 but Tcrash is one and done but for Chaos reach you gotta spend some time in the air.
@@simplyrohith2163 T-crash is one and done super, it's true, but you have to physically hit the boss with it. Depending on the boss position and your team placement it's not always possible to use T-crash (Oryx) or sometimes will take longer to do it and run back to the well and continue dmg with your weapons (like the new Dungeon final boss) than the full duration of Chaos Reach. It makes it now so overall across all bosses, Arclock now will do more dmg in the same scenario than a Titan and is more consistent.
@@andreymavian3400 I agree Chaos reach is definitely S-tier now with geomags. But the reliability of T-crash is way above chaos reach.
I havent played a ton of Strand warlock (more of a Titan man myself) but I have heard that Unravel got a slight damage nerf, so Needlestorm is probably doing less since the Swarmer threadlings aren't unraveling as well as before
Just a heads up in the edit the second golden gun shows celestial being used when it’s star eater that’s actually being used. Great vid regardless keep it up Aztec!
I think vortex nova bomb should do damage similar to the arc hunter super.
I mean technically it should do more since the arc super stick in and the boss can't walk out of the aoe. But who knows why they are scared to make it good lol
I mean you have a super boosting exotic on the hunter with the gathering storm, having a base super (on a sunclass that can debuff the target in 2 ways before attacking with vortex) compete with that would be crazy.
man I wish Blight Ranger was better. its one of the coolest looking pieces of gear in the entire game.
It WAS good on release, but Bungie decided that the exotic that makes blocking do "massively increased damage" should only hit about as hard as a paper straw.
@@papertowels9162 I remember blight ranger being pretty horrible at launch too.
@@lethallegend9883 no. It used to delete bosses for 2 days. But it got shafted
@@simplyrohith2163 I remember it doing some crazy shit with the parasite exploit but beyond that, it was a terrible helmet
@@lethallegend9883 it use to delete bosses by it self there should be plenty of videos of that
Aw dang, wanted to see Hammer of Sol with the 10% buff. Love the videos though, I understand this stuff is a serious time commitment
He seems to have forgotten about hunter stasis and titan strand. Love how informative your videos are.
Burning mail is bugged I think. Watch the way the health bar just jumps for like 200,000 damage
I'm down here making sure I'm not the only one who saw that lol
@@Dr_Sparks_ yeah it was even doing it before the patch
Pro tip......If there is lingering damage like Burn, Unraveling, Scorch, Vortex Gernade, Ect happening, let it keep dpsing until either the boss is immune, the encounter wipes you, or it stops naturally.
If you die before all that happens, the extra damage wont get added in your score report
wouldnt add even 5% of total dmg
This is obviously the case.
@@celsonjunior9376 Ik, but hey if you want accurate numbers, now you know
the funny thing is bungie broke lingering grenades this season they last about 3-4 seconds now lol
Oh, like he was already doing? lol Seriously, though, thank you, Captain Obvious.
Note that on the final sheet the icon for celestial, radiant, and 3x kinetic surge is actually referring to 4x star eaters
The production and speed of content is wild, as a new player what more could you ask for
He might be the best d2 creator imo
Part of the problem with the Spectral Blades test(and even in the Arc Staff tests) wasn't that you were going past him, part of the problem was that you kept pushing him back, causing him to teleport
it wasnt only spec blades that did so, but spec blades seem to have the most pushback of any roaming super
The same with Silkstrike, it does way more damage when you hit the tip of it, instead he just goes on to kiss the ogre right up in it’s ass. It could’ve gotten to 900k or maybe even 1m damage if done right. I usually press the “S” key while spamming light attack, so that it’ll inch slightly backward whenever you strike forward, tho it’ll still move you forward but it’ll be much smaller distance than just leaving it be.
It’s kinda bound to happen when you have a Warlock main that can only play PvP and ONLY play PvP in his entire life, do a damage test in PvE content, now I know why so many people complain that his damage testing is fu∁κed
@@SordidusFellatioI thought they removed the tip doing more dmg and just made it the same throughout the hit?
For warlock stasis, you did dmg wrong. You cancel the second shot and immediately shatter.
Explain idk what you mean
@@brusselseastside3546 If you press shatter immediately following the first blast of ice, you save a substantial amount of super energy because the second shot of ice never fires. Allowing you to gain more total damage per super.
he didn't do that on the first test, damage would be inaccurate
@@NobleVI_343 wa... what? His first damage test was inaccurate to begin with. He is literally doing damage wrong and the goal is to do max dps. Your logic is extremely flawed.
perrfect conditon for crown of tempest is you need to have the conduction buff active all the time while super is active, that’s one of the down sides in damaging the boss
Nice video
Nova Bomb is just so sad 😢
It’s fine. Voidlock neutral game is so cracked
You can throw a grenade to weaken them so they take way more damage before popping it and it does over 350k. It’s also super fast and you can just continuously dps with rockets etc. Voidlock is one of the best classes for high end content due to its insane survivability, nonstop devour and weaken, ad clear and damage overall. If it also had a top tier super it would be busted😂
@@hatchell18 yea the op is clueless to how the game actually works. People like that are best just playing strikes
@@TargetSniper365 Op is clueless about what ? Did they complain about the state of voidlock in it's entirety ? Dude is just sad nova bomb is doing low damages. Meanwhile you come here to attack and judge him, on what basis ? 5 words ? Gtfo, if you've nothing nice to say, just don't say anything, you're just mean for the sake of being edgy mean. Elitist prick.
@@TargetSniper365Contraverse Hold spam ( or any other non garbage void based built ) isn't cranked anymore compared to Void Hunter or Titan. You clearly don't play those characters at all or you do and you are very bad at it cause they're busted for GMs and the like. Voidlock it's one of the least used classes, especially in high level content because Stasis , Solar and now Arc have much more utility/Damage. Mr pro Destiny player still stuck in 2021 smh.
Would be cool if one of the warlock arc armors got something like star eaters. Gathering ionic traces increases the damage of your next super by x amount, stacking.
Glacial quake being the play for long damage phases is gonna be a fun time. Behemoth metah!
Those Daybreak numbers are sexy. 4th highest without involving artifact mods is not a bad place to be in for a super that hit like a wet noodle just a few months ago.
There should be another warlock exotic that actually gave you everlasting flame
So you'd have to chose dawn chorus for damage or [x] for ad clear
I saw something on reddit about jolt being bugged against single targets. I realised this also could be hurting chaos reach when supering a single boss with no ads around.
For nova warp, if you throw a vortex granade after charging it with chaos accelerant (use contraverse hold to take less damage while charging) and have echo of undermining "your void grenades weaken targets" you can do 100k damage per nova warp pulse and thats about 400-500k damage as long as they are weakened from the granade, make sure to charge your granade before using your super to maximize damage
The problem about Spectral Blades in PvE is not just the low damage. It’s also the extra duration drain when you’re not invisible.
The supers lasts 14s (assuming you don’t attack anything) when you’re not invisible.
This means that it can’t even ad clear.
Bungie needs to buff the attack damage through the roof and make it fit the assassin role better.
The super should be a boss killer/Champion slayer.
A change I had in mind would be like this:
-Light attacks mark the enemy.
-Heavy attacks against marked enemies do significantly more damage (I’m talking about instantly wiping master level champions).
This would give it a unique role for ad clear that fits with it’s assassin playstyle. Go invisible, find high priority targets like champions, instantly take them out, while going back into stealth. Doing light + heavy combo would also be good for Boss damage.
that idea sounds really cool actually. Though I'd hope with Gwisin Vest you'd be able to ad clear 'okay' as well. (though part of that requires the attacks to actually hit consistently, which they still don't atm)
What i have learned from this video is Nova Bomb really needs an exotic that will help boost its damage like the other classes have for their supers. Its just pathetic how little damage that instant damage super is compared to the other classes instant damage supers.
at minute 17 u show goldengun with the celestial nighthawk icon next to the damage number even though u clearly shot 3 times what makes no sence!
however, i still enjoy your content since D1!
mad love and respect by bruva 🔥🔥🔥
Use nova warp next the boss on his Sides to avoid being stomped away. The maximum charge comes faster as well. You hold it too long before releasing it. You could be getting way more damage
When the solar ad clear super does substantially better damage than the giant death laser, you know that Chaos Reach needs yet another buff.
After the last damage test you did, I knew that 25% buff still wasn’t going to be enough. Even an artifact mod can’t fix this supers pitiful output.
Lol, leave it to Bungie to accidentally nerf a bunch our Warlock supers when they were supposed to be buffed.
And it takes way too long. The damage is ok, but the dps is shit.
The 749k Aztecross broke with chaos reach and geos should be the normal damage output for PVE. It's meant to be a powerhouse super with a high risk-reward playstyle. There's no reason to bother wasting 85 percent of a damage phase in this super when I can out-dps myself with weapons or a one-and-done super like Needlestorm/swarmers. It's made even worse in activities when stuff is constantly moving around, you won't even reach half of these numbers. The state of Stormcaller as a whole is pitiful (outside of Arc Souls my beloved)
The lesson im learning here is that damging void supers that dont weaken need a massive...like...3x buff
I would argue that like... all void supers need at least a +100% buff. Spectral, moebius quiver, nova bomb, sentinel. If you brought ANY to a dps phase, you'd get kicked. Void may have a really strong netral game, but man, the supers be lackin'.
For damage comparisons from pre and post you should add like the damage numbers and how much it went up, if it’s too much work, I understand, but for example:
Thundercrash 567k (+47k)
Did you guys forget to do the stand super for titans? because I don't see any results for it on here but I do see it on the previos testing also amazing video cross and Much love!
All warlock supers were towards the bottom, and bungie was surprised warlocks moved to starfire protocol.
real, although on strand you can do more damage than starfire (if you put in a lot more work)