Kind of reminds me of the MK11 Terminator ending, where after gaining the powers of Kronika, the T-800 tried multiple times to preserve Skynet and win the war. Every attempt ended in failure except one: a timeline where the war never happened, with Skynet and humanity working together to make a better world. He then threw the hour glass into a sea of blood in Hell along with himself to prevent his knowledge of how to control time from being used for evil. It was an oddly wholesome ending.
Imagine if the Skynet decided to turn on it's own T-1000 models because they aren't really machines, and a rogue T-1000 decided to help John Conner and the humans, interesting plot twist!
In Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, a T-1001 decides to go rogue, having weighed up the information available, and dedicates itself to making sure John Connor's destiny is preserved.
I never understood why they never made a series of movies showing the rebellion and destruction of Skynet. A trilogy starting at the near destruction of humanity to humans winning made by Cameron would have been amazing. More interesting than Avatar to me. Also more realistic than a human becoming a giant Smurf.
Because that means ending the movies for good eventually. And that's a big no-no for Hollywood nowadays, now everything needs to be a 'universe' aka 'how to milk a series with multiple spin offs'
It was a neat conclusion to the war since both John and Skynet were created through time travel. John sole reason to erase Skynet is because he wanted to prevent Judgment Day but now that Judgment Day has happened, he decides that he can at least do something to repair the world.
It was meant to. This comic book series is essentially a rough adaptation of what they intended for the rest of the Salvation trilogy, before the company fell into financial troubles and the franchise changed hands to be rebooted with Genisys a few years later.
It makes me wonder how the heck the machines just don't completely overwhelm the resistance when it takes 18 years to grow a human soldier while the machines can just churn out T800s like crazy off of an assembly line.
I thought that too, but when skynet initiated judgment day, it nuked lots of major parts of the world essentially destroying many essential resources that skynet could have used to have an advantage. The movies like to imply that sky net had a massive army but realistically it did not have an abundance of resources especially when the terminators required extensive materials and complex technology in order to be made. Destruction of nuclear power plants , terminators, and technological resources was a major blow to skynet. Which is why it prioritized the quality of the terminators over the quantity, maximizing the effectiveness of each individual unit. Even then, skynet was heavily outnumbered. It’s fatal mistake was starting judgment day.
IRL, they couldn't. Things like cobalt, coltan, etc are hard to obtain and very tough to process. Even them being better than stainless steel would take generations.
Skynets whole Time Travel thing is so it can never be destroyed for good it will just keep going again and again a Constant War just like it's Programming was made for.
I'd like to think tome traveling works similar to the avengers way of traveling. It's not actually going back in time, but to a different dimension. So therefore in the original timeline, skynet is dead.
Terminator salvation was such a better movie than genesis. That glimpse into the future that was teased in other movies, variation from the first 3 kill John Connor plots, good movie
I love the Terminator movies but things have gotten so convoluted that I decided to write my own version. Which honestly isn’t too different from the original, it just cleans up the mess stuff. The most important aspects of the lore are these 2 things, the war against the machines and time loops. No one knows how the loop began both both Skynet and John are created as a result of it. Judgment Day happens, Connor wins the war and in desperation Skynet sends a Terminator back in time. While the Terminator fails it’s mission it remains ends up ensuring that Skynet will be created, starting the loop all over again. Every loop has minor differences to each other but the main sequence of events remains the same. However what I would change is that timelines can’t be erased by changing the past but neither side knows this. However these timelines do end up being closed off and out of range for conventional time travel. Lastly Skynet and possibly even the Resistance will eventually realize that they are stuck in a loop and that the only way to break it is to work together and bring the war to a permanent peaceful end. Why would Skynet agree to that? Because Skynet was never meant to be evil. It’s a machine with no concept of morality, only efficiency and ensuring its survival. That’s why I think it can be convinced to accept a peaceful solution because it would ensure its survival. I also think that Terminators that have learned to be more human and value human lives would be extremely important in that process because seeing machines fight alongside humans would definitely confuse Skynet at first. Especially if they were not reprogrammed but were simply allowed to make their own decisions independently. Anyway that’s how I would have structured the whole story. There would of course be more time traveling and confusing stories anyway but at least it would have a proper ending and that’s something I think every story should have.
Along time ago I brainstormed something similar, but also completely different. The idea being terminator sent back time similar to T3 started assassinating Connors generals and other high value targets. At one point due to space time rupture, someone was caught in the wake of the time traveling terminator (never decided if it was a resistance fighter or just some john doe person) and that person and the terminator who skip in small fractions of time(maybe 6 months to a year) with a new future timeline due to who ever the Terminator killed or what was changed during their time in that present. Basically it would be a literature race against time for both the man and the machine as they try and accomplish their adjectives by trying to change their future in the present they are currently in, before they are warped alittle more into the future. Pretty much like quantum leap...except with killer machines But I dig what you proposed, as the franchise has indeed become convoluted
Wow I never knew about this story thanks. Wondering if this was the inspiration to Terminator Genisis when John Connor became a Terminator. I thought that was the strangest chapter but now I realize it was because the director probably took shortcuts possibly to shorten runtime or maybe due to budget and could afford all that stuff covered here that happened after Salvation.
It was definitely inspired by it. Maybe he read it and thought: well that was boring and a little disappointing. I can do you one better! Bang! JOHN Connor becomes a Terminator and comes back in time to star Skynet!!! BANG! SUBVERSION!!! It was stupid. In both cases, it was stupid. Stupid in the Comic Book because it forced John to do something useless when Marcus could have done on his own. And stupid in Genisys because it was forced and... it was darn stupid.
@@julianmarco4185 weaker skeleton made out of calcium titanate, probably. But John was perfect because he kills terminators and he was fit for the coltan hyperalloy body.
@koka John's mind was transfered to a Terminator body. Why didn't Marcus offer his services to help Connor take down whatshisname or offer himself to transfer to a tougher terminator body? Anyway, it was a bad resolution, I would have liked it more if Marcus became a full AI and became like Skynet's most dangerous enemy. I mean, canonical Skynet feared the T1000 because it was actually a very smart AI. Imagine if Marcus became that...
This is the ending the franchise deserve, a final battle against a monster so deadly it´s a treat to all life, both organic and mech, a treat that force both sides to join together to stand up against it and finally reallize that it´s better to life in harmony as equals
I always imagined skynet defeated itself with it's judgment day attack. It destroyed all the infra that would have allowed it's distributed existence. So it had to concentrate itself in one or more centralized locations which would have been easier to attack for the resistance.
It makes my ass burn that in Salvation John runs around with a gun in some tactical formation that you would have to shoot 72 full magazines to even chip the paint off a terminator
****Spoilers**** Well, it's a odd twist but one that does make sense given from what we saw of the Terminators in 2 and 3, learning how to feel emotion and sympathy. They were after all cut from the same cloth as Skynet itself after all, which makes sense that Skynet was trying to become more human and find it's purpose.
I kind of understand what you mean, but I think it's kind of dumb how they did it. I would have kind of accepted it if Marcus was the one to spend time with humans and learn something, maybe he spends time with them, and he gains some kind of awareness/wisdom. And he gains their trust and loyalty. Skynet notices this and forms some kind of plan to capture Marcus through his people. Anyway, I would say that Skynet is confused about how Marcus is able to inspire this kind of trust and wants to take that information from his head. And Marcus doesn't fight Skynet. Instead, he gives himself to Skynet to free his people. Skynet connects to Marcus, and their consciousness is brought together and from there you can decide what he has in 2 scenarios: 1) Marcus has developed a virus with the humans and when he is brought into Skynet he delivers a virus that shuts down Skynet either temporarily or permanently. 2) Marcus is absorbed by Skynet, and he overwrites its basic code. Where Marcus and Skynet becomes some kind of fused being.
😮 I imagine all terminators had the potential to become rogue or individualistic. They were just largely suppressed by skynet because it didn't want competition. It was probably only capable of surpresing the full potential of other terminators and machines because itself was a supercomputer and hence able to overwhelm a robot Because it had more computational power
There’s actually an extra scene in T2 that explains this, they actually put a restriction in there programming that doesn’t allow them to have full thinking power.
I liked Salvation mainly because Skynet learns more and more about human psyche and emotions All the terminators from T1 to T:S showcase more and more human-like models to the point where the line is blurred and Marcus cant believe hes a machine at first The story plot was questionable sure but small attention to detail lore-wise made Salvation a bit under-appreciated IMO
You should do a video on terminator:burning earth. It’s a great graphic novel about the future war that was written only a short time before terminator 2 came out, so John Connors character wasn’t fully established yet. In this story, he doesn’t have short black hair and the face scar, he has long blonde hair like his mother, with a beard and mustache. It also introduces a new terminator type and shows Skynet going to extreme lengths to wipe out the resistance. Alex Ross did the artwork
I feel the way for humanity to realistically defeat AI would be to attack power plants and power infrastructure, we are build to live off of plants insects and animals, the machines need power to operate, hitting the grid would not shut down the individual terminators any time soon, but it would cut central processing power and production capabilities in a way which could be escalated to the point of a win for humanity.
@YokaiX which i never understood why I mean Didn't It just limit skynets capabilities I mean they probably had Less power to make strong Machine and don't forget the factorys and resources skynet destroyed which it could have used
All skynet had to do was not invent the plasma rifle. You eventually build indestructible soldiers but you also give them the only weapon that can kill them. If only one goes down and they reverse engineer that stuff.......Just have the terminators use machine guns. That don't hurt them.
I could not understand why John Connor felt the need to volunteer the name of his father to Marcus/skynet. Because I am pretty certain that it was not mentioned by any skynet product (terminator) in either T1, T2 or T3. Only in Genesis does a terminator mention Kyle Reese being John's father
Yeah. Odd. Is he trying to pronounce Thomas? I wonder, has he never seen the name before? Maybe he's only ever seen it written as Tomas. Whatever, its very off-putting cos now I can't help focusing on it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't like this story, Not just because they make John a Terminator, but worst of all is having the Terminators not get defeated by John, but embraced by humanity, pretty much making the Terminators the savior of humanity instead of John! WTF?
I for one welcome our new robot overlords to take my house and my wife and im grateful for just being their pet......god bless those magnificent machines 🥹
Salvation was the best movie of the franchise. deserved a sequel . I wanted to see the battles in the future, no only one terminator coming back in time...
Still better than all the sequels after Salvation. I enjoyed salvation. I am so sick of their time travel movies and doing everything they can to Milk Arnold. The story is about John Connor, NOT a T800 Arnold.
Skynet and humans like partners? Would be a nice idea if there was another enemy like a skynet from another dimension OR augmented humans based on their skynets technology that have won the war.
Genysis can still work as the main timeline. In Salvation Skynet knew they were in a timeloop. So is possible that they send the t1000 of the second movie to kill Sarah as a child, John sent the t800 also to that time instead of sending him to protect himself.
Wait they simply copied John's consciousness across to the memory chip of a t850? Wouldn't the human original John just awaken after the procedure as the t850 would merely be a copy of John and not John himself but an independent copy
Very good time line but.. the first two terminator movies, T3, and salvation are in no continuity with eachother. Its like putting a square into a star.
i could be wrong but, i always thought they wanted him to donate his body. not to make a terminator, but to perfect how they put living flesh over the metal skeleton. did not think this was a bad movie really, if only they had sarah connor and young john back for number 3.. is there no one that could use this new deep fake app to put them in number 3??
This franchise will never end because of multiple timeline scenarios what if they went further back into the past kill Sara Connor parents before she’s born then therefore John Connor can’t exist in the future
@@AJ-kt5zo yep and even a extraterrestrial terminator alliance in a alternate timeline skynet experiments with alien’s that were alive at Area 51 they use their technology to wipe out humans and create alien terminator hybrids and are capable of traveling through time built into every terminator and then the humans will join forces with rogue aliens that only want peace with humanity I know it sounds wild but an interesting idea lol
Can the trilogy events happen in a CLOSED loop because the actions are predetermined? I mean.....Skynet is present in the future because they send back terminators. But if the protagonists always stop judgement day, thent his cant happen. In T1, kyle reese spoke about how the machines and what not, but he never mentions judgement day I dont think
I mean, fake failing a Touring test. Thats really the only way skynet could exist in the past and just choose to NOT execute judgment day upon gaining sentience.
SFDebris did a pretty good interpretation of that certain events were fated to happen(Sarah birthing John Connor, Skynet's rise to power, Judgement Day). The actions of the characters merely delay the timing and alter the circumstances surrounding them. Third movie showed that if Arnie and the T-1000 never showed up he would have hooked up with his future wife at a party and they would've become a couple. With her dad being a high ranking member of the military, giving him access to weapons and training. Likewise don't think of Kyle Reese having to be John's father, anyone could be the father, but the son would always be John. the constant battle of balances between fate and free will.
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Kind of reminds me of the MK11 Terminator ending, where after gaining the powers of Kronika, the T-800 tried multiple times to preserve Skynet and win the war. Every attempt ended in failure except one: a timeline where the war never happened, with Skynet and humanity working together to make a better world. He then threw the hour glass into a sea of blood in Hell along with himself to prevent his knowledge of how to control time from being used for evil. It was an oddly wholesome ending.
A true hero.
much better ending than sequelitis films that Hollyweird had been been dishing out these days except for Terminator:The Sarah Conner Chronicles
Honestly, that makes logical sense. The only winning move (for Skynet) is to play Simcity instead of Wargames.
mortal kombat rules lmao
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Imagine if the Skynet decided to turn on it's own T-1000 models because they aren't really machines, and a rogue T-1000 decided to help John Conner and the humans, interesting plot twist!
Not only that but shows the humans that they can be stopped even though they are extremely durable they do have a weakness
T-1000s helping humanity? Oh it’s a wrap then
Sarah Connor Chronicles touched on this.
@@AdrianMartinez-ho6db in TSCC there is a dissident machine faction leaded by a T-1000 model (played by Shirley Ann Manson)
In Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, a T-1001 decides to go rogue, having weighed up the information available, and dedicates itself to making sure John Connor's destiny is preserved.
All skynet had to do to win was... not invent time travel.
Isn't it state in the films that time travel was skynet last-ditch effort when it realized it losing the war?
@@lovell8983 ow 😮 fair point
@@lovell8983 Yup
It’s such an unavoidable danger lol 😂
I have to disagree. Skynet should have made the time machine just explode after the one-time use.
I never understood why they never made a series of movies showing the rebellion and destruction of Skynet. A trilogy starting at the near destruction of humanity to humans winning made by Cameron would have been amazing. More interesting than Avatar to me. Also more realistic than a human becoming a giant Smurf.
That very short lived tv series they did had potential.
Because that means ending the movies for good eventually. And that's a big no-no for Hollywood nowadays, now everything needs to be a 'universe' aka 'how to milk a series with multiple spin offs'
@@strikeforce1500 Why make something good when you can make a long term profit stream? Lol
It would be a fresh alternative to all the zombie apocalypse/Zombie War movies and shows
@@crescentprincekronos2518 it actually covered a lot, didn't it have 2 seasons and like 30 episodes? I remember a lot of things from it.
It was a neat conclusion to the war since both John and Skynet were created through time travel. John sole reason to erase Skynet is because he wanted to prevent Judgment Day but now that Judgment Day has happened, he decides that he can at least do something to repair the world.
I would have paid to see this made into a movie
It was meant to.
This comic book series is essentially a rough adaptation of what they intended for the rest of the Salvation trilogy, before the company fell into financial troubles and the franchise changed hands to be rebooted with Genisys a few years later.
It makes me wonder how the heck the machines just don't completely overwhelm the resistance when it takes 18 years to grow a human soldier while the machines can just churn out T800s like crazy off of an assembly line.
I thought that too, but when skynet initiated judgment day, it nuked lots of major parts of the world essentially destroying many essential resources that skynet could have used to have an advantage. The movies like to imply that sky net had a massive army but realistically it did not have an abundance of resources especially when the terminators required extensive materials and complex technology in order to be made. Destruction of nuclear power plants , terminators, and technological resources was a major blow to skynet. Which is why it prioritized the quality of the terminators over the quantity, maximizing the effectiveness of each individual unit. Even then, skynet was heavily outnumbered. It’s fatal mistake was starting judgment day.
IRL, they couldn't. Things like cobalt, coltan, etc are hard to obtain and very tough to process. Even them being better than stainless steel would take generations.
It's important to remember that although SkyNet is intelligent, it's not omnitpotent. Like humans, it had to learn things.
Skynets whole Time Travel thing is so it can never be destroyed for good it will just keep going again and again a Constant War just like it's Programming was made for.
I'd like to think tome traveling works similar to the avengers way of traveling. It's not actually going back in time, but to a different dimension. So therefore in the original timeline, skynet is dead.
@@sleepyjo9340 Yep more plausible imo. Meaning somewhere in those multiverse the humans are being led by a woke whamen and lost the war to the Skynet.
Terminator salvation was such a better movie than genesis. That glimpse into the future that was teased in other movies, variation from the first 3 kill John Connor plots, good movie
I love the Terminator movies but things have gotten so convoluted that I decided to write my own version. Which honestly isn’t too different from the original, it just cleans up the mess stuff. The most important aspects of the lore are these 2 things, the war against the machines and time loops. No one knows how the loop began both both Skynet and John are created as a result of it.
Judgment Day happens, Connor wins the war and in desperation Skynet sends a Terminator back in time. While the Terminator fails it’s mission it remains ends up ensuring that Skynet will be created, starting the loop all over again. Every loop has minor differences to each other but the main sequence of events remains the same. However what I would change is that timelines can’t be erased by changing the past but neither side knows this. However these timelines do end up being closed off and out of range for conventional time travel.
Lastly Skynet and possibly even the Resistance will eventually realize that they are stuck in a loop and that the only way to break it is to work together and bring the war to a permanent peaceful end. Why would Skynet agree to that? Because Skynet was never meant to be evil. It’s a machine with no concept of morality, only efficiency and ensuring its survival. That’s why I think it can be convinced to accept a peaceful solution because it would ensure its survival.
I also think that Terminators that have learned to be more human and value human lives would be extremely important in that process because seeing machines fight alongside humans would definitely confuse Skynet at first. Especially if they were not reprogrammed but were simply allowed to make their own decisions independently.
Anyway that’s how I would have structured the whole story. There would of course be more time traveling and confusing stories anyway but at least it would have a proper ending and that’s something I think every story should have.
Hey your thousands time better writer then me
Along time ago I brainstormed something similar, but also completely different. The idea being terminator sent back time similar to T3 started assassinating Connors generals and other high value targets.
At one point due to space time rupture, someone was caught in the wake of the time traveling terminator (never decided if it was a resistance fighter or just some john doe person) and that person and the terminator who skip in small fractions of time(maybe 6 months to a year) with a new future timeline due to who ever the Terminator killed or what was changed during their time in that present.
Basically it would be a literature race against time for both the man and the machine as they try and accomplish their adjectives by trying to change their future in the present they are currently in, before they are warped alittle more into the future.
Pretty much like quantum leap...except with killer machines
But I dig what you proposed, as the franchise has indeed become convoluted
that's the plot of Terminator before Terminator 3
"There is no fate but the fate we make for ourselves"
It's "There's no fate, but what we make for ourselves".
@@YokaiX got it
T2
Salvation was sadly the final "real" Terminator film. They should have kept going!!!
Wow I never knew about this story thanks. Wondering if this was the inspiration to Terminator Genisis when John Connor became a Terminator. I thought that was the strangest chapter but now I realize it was because the director probably took shortcuts possibly to shorten runtime or maybe due to budget and could afford all that stuff covered here that happened after Salvation.
It was definitely inspired by it. Maybe he read it and thought: well that was boring and a little disappointing. I can do you one better! Bang! JOHN Connor becomes a Terminator and comes back in time to star Skynet!!! BANG! SUBVERSION!!!
It was stupid. In both cases, it was stupid. Stupid in the Comic Book because it forced John to do something useless when Marcus could have done on his own. And stupid in Genisys because it was forced and... it was darn stupid.
@@julianmarco4185 Marcus couldn't have defeated Parnell.
@@kensuiki6791 Why?
@@julianmarco4185 weaker skeleton made out of calcium titanate, probably.
But John was perfect because he kills terminators and he was fit for the coltan hyperalloy body.
@koka John's mind was transfered to a Terminator body. Why didn't Marcus offer his services to help Connor take down whatshisname or offer himself to transfer to a tougher terminator body?
Anyway, it was a bad resolution, I would have liked it more if Marcus became a full AI and became like Skynet's most dangerous enemy.
I mean, canonical Skynet feared the T1000 because it was actually a very smart AI. Imagine if Marcus became that...
Love these terminator videos keep them coming.
This is the ending the franchise deserve, a final battle against a monster so deadly it´s a treat to all life, both organic and mech, a treat that force both sides to join together to stand up against it and finally reallize that it´s better to life in harmony as equals
Long live the Human Race!!!!!!
SCREW the machines!
Glory to mankind
Commander white: destroy all heretics!!?
Purge the non-human!
I always imagined skynet defeated itself with it's judgment day attack. It destroyed all the infra that would have allowed it's distributed existence. So it had to concentrate itself in one or more centralized locations which would have been easier to attack for the resistance.
I like this story much better than what we got in recent years!
I hope they can one day do a Future War trilogy like Terminator Salvation
It makes my ass burn that in Salvation John runs around with a gun in some tactical formation that you would have to shoot 72 full magazines to even chip the paint off a terminator
Apparently Salvation is set in an earlier time before plasma weapons
****Spoilers****
Well, it's a odd twist but one that does make sense given from what we saw of the Terminators in 2 and 3, learning how to feel emotion and sympathy. They were after all cut from the same cloth as Skynet itself after all, which makes sense that Skynet was trying to become more human and find it's purpose.
I kind of understand what you mean, but I think it's kind of dumb how they did it.
I would have kind of accepted it if Marcus was the one to spend time with humans and learn something, maybe he spends time with them, and he gains some kind of awareness/wisdom. And he gains their trust and loyalty.
Skynet notices this and forms some kind of plan to capture Marcus through his people.
Anyway, I would say that Skynet is confused about how Marcus is able to inspire this kind of trust and wants to take that information from his head.
And Marcus doesn't fight Skynet. Instead, he gives himself to Skynet to free his people. Skynet connects to Marcus, and their consciousness is brought together and from there you can decide what he has in 2 scenarios:
1) Marcus has developed a virus with the humans and when he is brought into Skynet he delivers a virus that shuts down Skynet either temporarily or permanently.
2) Marcus is absorbed by Skynet, and he overwrites its basic code. Where Marcus and Skynet becomes some kind of fused being.
In the end it will always be a stalemate.
Please don´t turn this amazing story in a Hollywood movie.
That was the only T3 I wanted to see
Back in 2020 the animators for Ghost in the Shell planned to animate a terminator series.
Don't know what's going on though
All they had to do was click the off button apparently
James Cameron should have ended the Terminator Franchise in this way
Much better than "shortly after the events of T2, John Conner got snoked."
I liked Marcus Wright. He has immortal protocol & is underrated. He is most powerful human based cyborg & could match t800.
😮 I imagine all terminators had the potential to become rogue or individualistic. They were just largely suppressed by skynet because it didn't want competition. It was probably only capable of surpresing the full potential of other terminators and machines because itself was a supercomputer and hence able to overwhelm a robot Because it had more computational power
Lol Sky net master brain= Sovereign. Could you imagine?
"Assuming direct control...."
There’s actually an extra scene in T2 that explains this, they actually put a restriction in there programming that doesn’t allow them to have full thinking power.
@@joelinden1482 read only
"Skynet achieve its goal of creating beauty and finding a purpose of its existence..." What
The long awaited answer 😮😢
BUT CAN HE REPRODUCE???
😂😆😂😆
@@snafubare he lost his man, but now he is effectively immortal. save for maintenance & occasional engine (software & hardware) problems.
@@cr90captain89 Valvoagra
@@snafubare I get it 😅
@@brandoncutler09 😂😆😂
Terminator was never the same after judgment day. The franchise just turned into a money grabbing paradox.
I liked Salvation mainly because Skynet learns more and more about human psyche and emotions
All the terminators from T1 to T:S showcase more and more human-like models to the point where the line is blurred and Marcus cant believe hes a machine at first
The story plot was questionable sure but small attention to detail lore-wise made Salvation a bit under-appreciated IMO
John Connor is a paradox
I think peace is achievable as long as both side try there best.
You should do a video on terminator:burning earth. It’s a great graphic novel about the future war that was written only a short time before terminator 2 came out, so John Connors character wasn’t fully established yet. In this story, he doesn’t have short black hair and the face scar, he has long blonde hair like his mother, with a beard and mustache. It also introduces a new terminator type and shows Skynet going to extreme lengths to wipe out the resistance. Alex Ross did the artwork
I just want the Rick and Morty time cops to show up and beat them all silly for messing with time.
Ahh the direct correlation between the Matrix and Terminator.
So basically, The Matrix trilogy?
Hey FYI, it was not Kate's father personal bunker, it was an old base no longer used
I feel the way for humanity to realistically defeat AI would be to attack power plants and power infrastructure, we are build to live off of plants insects and animals, the machines need power to operate, hitting the grid would not shut down the individual terminators any time soon, but it would cut central processing power and production capabilities in a way which could be escalated to the point of a win for humanity.
Skynet destroyed that stuff itself on Judgement Day
@YokaiX which i never understood why I mean Didn't It just limit skynets capabilities I mean they probably had Less power to make strong Machine and don't forget the factorys and resources skynet destroyed which it could have used
Way better than Genesis
I clearly remember when Rob VanDam from ECW first performed the Van-Terminator. It was unbelievable. I can still her Joey Styles---OH MY GOD!! 💪
"Dr. COVID"???
My thoughts exactly 😂
All skynet had to do was not invent the plasma rifle. You eventually build indestructible soldiers but you also give them the only weapon that can kill them. If only one goes down and they reverse engineer that stuff.......Just have the terminators use machine guns. That don't hurt them.
Thank you for doing a video on this, i really liked how these comics wrapped up the Terminator Salvation timeline.
I want to watch this as a movie.
Take my money!
xD
That serial killer villain is a stupid idea he just wastes time .The story should be about Skynet and John
Is there a sequel-comic to the "Genysis" movie?
how john connor defeats skynet, - reads entire comic book to the audience
I could not understand why John Connor felt the need to volunteer the name of his father to Marcus/skynet. Because I am pretty certain that it was not mentioned by any skynet product (terminator) in either T1, T2 or T3.
Only in Genesis does a terminator mention Kyle Reese being John's father
Finally i can sleep well not thinking about the ending of Terminator salvation
Great upload
A worldwide and near space emp would soon fry any and all computer tech goodbye skynet job done
Thawmus.
Yeah. Odd. Is he trying to pronounce Thomas? I wonder, has he never seen the name before? Maybe he's only ever seen it written as Tomas. Whatever, its very off-putting cos now I can't help focusing on it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Kremmen2001 yes, it's meant to be Thomas. This is the same narrator that mangled Thomas Wayne in Exactly the same way. It's bewildering.
I don't like this story, Not just because they make John a Terminator, but worst of all is having the Terminators not get defeated by John, but embraced by humanity, pretty much making the Terminators the savior of humanity instead of John! WTF?
Think of it like the matrix series. John ended the war.
Cameron made an error; any time travel backward sends you into a parallel universe, so it changes nothing, functionally.
Time travel doesn't work like how people like to think it does travelling to the past and making changes apparently doesn't change the present
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As attack on Titan taught us, the cycle of war always continues....
That Comic run is exactly how the series should have ended. if this were brought to the big screen, it would benear perfect!!
Yes that would be an awesome end for this franchise, but not in todays generation. I don't wanna see another woke Terminator movie.
So in the end, skynet becomes our father? Never!
Someone is finally talking about this ending
I for one welcome our new robot overlords to take my house and my wife and im grateful for just being their pet......god bless those magnificent machines 🥹
Party at Zion!
Very matrixy ending
Salvation was the best movie of the franchise. deserved a sequel . I wanted to see the battles in the future, no only one terminator coming back in time...
3rd
You are funny 😂. Judgement day is still to this day one of the greatest movies ever made
Dang! All these "years later" I didn't see that coming in the past, present, or future :O
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Well at the rate things are going (ai wise)... You might as well tell me what I need to do to save us 💯
««John conner is skynet!!!!»»
Yeah, and he becomes T3000, probably the strongest model of Terminators. Lol😁😉😅🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
Did I hear right? Doctor Covid? ;-))
Let’s say dark fate never happened
This would be a great movie. I liked terminator salvation.
Incredible work by you 😊
In Genesys movie, John Connor just became SkyNet. Lol😁😂🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
Sophia Stewart is america's best author. Period.
Still better than all the sequels after Salvation. I enjoyed salvation. I am so sick of their time travel movies and doing everything they can to Milk Arnold. The story is about John Connor, NOT a T800 Arnold.
Skynet and humans like partners? Would be a nice idea if there was another enemy like a skynet from another dimension OR augmented humans based on their skynets technology that have won the war.
Let me go ahead and take detailed notes....i have a feeling were gonna need it.
It was nice of Skynet to give the doctor a ten body and an amazing chest!
Cool I would love to see this as a movie
John was able to do it in several timelines
Having Marcus come back from death seems utterly stupid.
Genysis can still work as the main timeline. In Salvation Skynet knew they were in a timeloop. So is possible that they send the t1000 of the second movie to kill Sarah as a child, John sent the t800 also to that time instead of sending him to protect himself.
john conner is neo from the matrix
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Wait they simply copied John's consciousness across to the memory chip of a t850? Wouldn't the human original John just awaken after the procedure as the t850 would merely be a copy of John and not John himself but an independent copy
Very good time line but.. the first two terminator movies, T3, and salvation are in no continuity with eachother. Its like putting a square into a star.
I swear hes saying dr. Covid, i know hes not but thats what im hearing.
Helps to be played by Patrick Bateman and Batman.
I never expected john to make peace with skynet.
That was what Neo did.
@@bursegsardaukar neo?
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 From The Matrix
@@bursegsardaukar I've heard of the matrix before.
I like the novels by S.M. stirling much better
I could’ve sworn terminator 2 had an alternate ending where skynet was stopped by wiping out cyberdine systems??🤔
This should’ve been the final movie lol
i could be wrong but, i always thought they wanted him to donate his body. not to make a terminator, but to perfect how they put living flesh over the metal skeleton. did not think this was a bad movie really, if only they had sarah connor and young john back for number 3..
is there no one that could use this new deep fake app to put them in number 3??
even if used her face on the female terminator!! ooooo what you think??
Salvation kept the timeline by Marcus Right giving his heart to John Connor so he could complete the timeline (obviously I know..)
This franchise will never end because of multiple timeline scenarios what if they went further back into the past kill Sara Connor parents before she’s born then therefore John Connor can’t exist in the future
Fair point. Eternal loops
@@AJ-kt5zo yep and even a extraterrestrial terminator alliance in a alternate timeline skynet experiments with alien’s that were alive at Area 51 they use their technology to wipe out humans and create alien terminator hybrids and are capable of traveling through time built into every terminator and then the humans will join forces with rogue aliens that only want peace with humanity I know it sounds wild but an interesting idea lol
John Connor becomes a Terminator in Salvation: Epic win.
John Connor infected by Skynet in Genisys: Epic fail sadly.
Can the trilogy events happen in a CLOSED loop because the actions are predetermined? I mean.....Skynet is present in the future because they send back terminators. But if the protagonists always stop judgement day, thent his cant happen. In T1, kyle reese spoke about how the machines and what not, but he never mentions judgement day I dont think
I mean, fake failing a Touring test. Thats really the only way skynet could exist in the past and just choose to NOT execute judgment day upon gaining sentience.
SFDebris did a pretty good interpretation of that certain events were fated to happen(Sarah birthing John Connor, Skynet's rise to power, Judgement Day). The actions of the characters merely delay the timing and alter the circumstances surrounding them. Third movie showed that if Arnie and the T-1000 never showed up he would have hooked up with his future wife at a party and they would've become a couple. With her dad being a high ranking member of the military, giving him access to weapons and training.
Likewise don't think of Kyle Reese having to be John's father, anyone could be the father, but the son would always be John. the constant battle of balances between fate and free will.