You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed watching it. Note that the generation before this will appear the same from the front, but their difference will be this version takes a snap on case back where as the other version takes a screw on case back.
Amazing to be able to see that piece in its original condition! I recently got a 2846 and I am very pleased with the wrist presence despite the 34mm case. Thanks for sharing.
The word Seamaster always conjures up images of a rugged dive watch, yet many of them are exquisite, delicate looking dress watches that couldn't be more far removed from this image. Thanks
You're very correct. But as a watch maker, I can compare the differences between an ordinary dress watch to a Seamaster dress watch. Seamaster will always have a well sealed crystal with the metal tension ring, crown will always have a gasket, and the case back will have a gasket as well.
Hi Sao, great video! I’m fortunate to own a gorgeous 2766; it’s stunningly beautiful. Hard to imagine this being a Seamaster given that most of the Omega world recognizes the line as a dive watch. I won’t wash the dishes with my 1954 Seasmaster on!
Thank you for sharing Steve. Honestly, if your watch has been properly serviced and sealed, washing dishes will do no harm. Just make sure the replace those gaskets and have a proper fitting crystal. That said, avoid emerging your watch into water or shower with it on. :-)
Another great video to show the elegance of the Omega’s of that time in their pristine condition and to own one takes patience and money to acquire it .
A thing of beauty is joy forever. What beautiful masterpieces.Amazing video, so well made. Yes, this time you have zoomed in and I could see the beautiful movement. I have the one with center second hand. In mint condition except that the dial is disfigured. Looking for someone who will restore it and make md wear it with pride.
There is also a non-automatic version I have one, the movement is dated 1952 says swiss made, has the recessed second hand, mine has a problem with the escapement I think, it spins like a propellor if wound up. it has the Seamaster horse in the middle of the back cover
1952 version is probably not a beefy lug model, and a larger size watch under case CK 2639. There is a beefy lug model as well but it should date to around 1954. Lots to learn and people always make mistake assuming the case model without thoroughly comparing the watch. I always dig deep down into details. :-)
Hello Sao. Thanks for helpful content. I have Omega ref.2767 case, cal.354, i would to ask you, what case clamp is correct for that reference? Omega 330 part 1911 or 1974A? Cheers
Just the coolest watch, definitely want to add a bumper movement to my collection. But other vintage Omega's are before it.. Fabulous video once again. Thanks, Sao
Nice video, thanks. Have you noticed any pattern with the finish of the steel (i.e. brushed vs polished)? That is, do models with this three piece case style have the same finishing pattern? On the NOS one, the middle piece of the three piece case looks possibly brushed....
You're welcome. And that's correct, on the side of the main case it does have a slight brushed finish. It is not shinny. Good eyes. Tells me you really study this video well.
These are lovely watches,I have a 1954 longines, fairly similar but hand winding in fair working order,how would mid-50s longines compare to omega in terms of quality?
Nice! There is also a manual wind version of this Seamaster as well. And yes, the movement quality on a mid 50s manual wind Longines will be just as great!
Lovely content, as always. Out of curiosity - do you know whether the lume of 2766 contains radium? I can't really find any info on that online. Cheers!
Thank you for your comment. If the dial retains its factory original finish, then luminous is 100% radium. If the dial has been refinished, then it is not radium. You'll need to understand that after 1962, no more watch dials came with radium luminous. Any factory original finish dial with luminous before that is radium. BUT! If you are concerned and worried about the danger of radium. I highly recommend that you watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/FK2DnOoeyjg/v-deo.html
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thank you for your answer and the link. I recently managed to get a beautiful, gold capped 2766 with an original dial and hands and even some of the lume left but then I found out about the use of radium on watches of that era and got a bit worried. Such a curious time in watchmaking and human history in general.
I work on many radium watches. The one thing I learned is not to inhale or consume the dust while working on the watch. If you watched that video link that I have provide, it will help diminish your worries. All the old watchmakers that I know of retired years ago and are still alive today. You one radium watch is not going to cause any harm.
I have a 344 from 1951 with a missing pin ! The dial sags a little at 10 o'clock because of that... Any idea of the price for a repair from my watchmaker or do I have to take it to an Omega store ?
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Missing pin like the one you are referring to at 5:50. I took it to my watchmaker as soon as I saw your video and apparently, it is indeed missing this small part. It's a recent purchase and I didn't have it serviced myself (but it was apparently done around 2 years ago). I have been looking for this specific model for quite some time and it was strangely "cheaper" than the others so I was a bit suspicious. But after hesitating and taking a close look at the pictures, I finally decided to buy it and I really don't regret anything. Actually, apart from this pin and maybe a gasket to change, it's in great condition. The movement was restored during the last service by omega, the gold capped case is in great shape, as well as the original crown and buckle, it has an amazing patina dial but still all its lume and no rust on the hands. Yeah, sorry I get excited and I tend to write waaay to much about it. Thanks if you read until the end and also your video helped me understand what was wrong so it made it easier to explain to my watchmaker.
@@abelsauvaneix3951 Ah I see, that pin is quite common to go missing. But it is very easy to replace with a new one as well. Your watchmaker should have no issue replacing a new one for you.
Great video and obviously amazing time piece in pristine condition. Do you mind to share the circumstances for that watch ended being stored and forgotten for so many years? thanks!
Thank you for the comment Fernando. I do not know the exact storage reason. It could have been put away in a drawer for all this time. The watch only came with its price tag and no strap. If only I have a time machine I will go back 67 years to find out for you. haha
I look forward to more of your videos OE. VERY informative. I've inherited my Dad's 1963 Seamaster. All original 552 cal, 24 jewels, case #165002. Subbed and liked sir.
Hi Sao Just discovered your channel and because of the beautiful pieces you have shown, I have decided on getting a 60's vintage omega, rotor automatic, but was wondering what is the largest case size out of a seamaster,constellation,de ville or a geneve..as I would like something bigger than 34mm 👍
Hi Tony, thank you for the comment. There are a handful of oversized automatic throughout the 60s. Some are more common than others. For Constellation wise, there are the round case connie at around 35-36mm which I've made a comparison video on as there are three different round case models. There are a few oversized Seamaster automatic with and without the calendar measuring from 35mm to 36.5mm. And there is also a jumbo size connie at 37mm throughout the early 60s. Just need to do some research and you'll be able to locate some of them. I do not recall their model numbers but have sold many on my site.
Hi Sao, I am new to your channel and I am enjoying learning about vintage Omega. Do you do valuations of vintage Omega watches? If not, can you recommend someone? I have an Omega purchased in 1952 (265 movement) that was kept in a safe deposit box for the last 30+ years. It was serviced by Omega last year and is in beautiful condition. I can send you photographs. It is my friends watch, he just inherited it from his father who bought it new in Tangiers in 1952 - have the original paperwork. He asked me to buy it but we'd like a value range. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, George
Hi George, thank you for the comment and question. Unfortunately, I do not appraise. If you have an account on the Omega forum you'll be able to create a post. There are a lot of specialist on the site who can provide you with an estimation.
Hi Sao - I just posted it in the Omega Forum titled 1952 Omega 265 Movement. Please check it out and let me know what you think of the watch. Thanks for the advice.
I do not recall when the last time I used the forum to be honest. Probably would get lost trying to find your post. Maybe you can include the link here and I'll take a look at it. :-)
Thank you for the informative video. I have always been curious what bumper movements feel like; they say that it feels different but nice. I found a cal 344 omega auto similar to the one in your video but the watch case is by Star Watches Case Co.. Sadly the caseback only contains the serial number. Would you be able to share how I could gain more information on this watch?
Hi, thank you for the comment. When the case is a Star Case, then it will only have a serial number since it is a customs case made for that particular Omega watch. There is no CK, OT, or KO reference for it.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Would the Extract from the Archives have a copy of the movement & case serial number combination? And how do you think it holds up in value compared to the original factory cases?
@@shadowrealm21 Unfortunately, I do not know about that with regards to the extract. But value wise, it would not worth the same as the original. That said, your star case is still original as well, just not made by Omega.
You're welcome. They do look almost the same from the front. But CK 2577 will have a screw back instead of a snap on back. I do not own a reissue, but I am sure it is a very good watch mechanical wise. Not a fan of the dial and hands proportion.
If I remember correctly, 166.009 was first introduced in 1963 and lasted to 1967. End of 1966 to 1967, it would make sense with a caliber 565 with quick set date feature.
When you rebuild a watch, it’s good to know what case reference and the exact case material that the movement belongs to. Because if anyone order the extract from the Omega archive, it will reveal everything. And if the information doesn’t match, you have a Frankenstein watch.
Seamaster does not just mean a dive watch. Seamaster means the watch is water resistant and you can emerge the watch into water at the time. A dive watch would indicate it on the dial to how many meter deep you can go.
Hi., I watching your chanell very often and it is great. I am Omega, enthusiat really, and collecting them. My the oldest Omega is 1896, in perfect condition. Please, are you selling watches and is it pissible to buy something from you. Many regards.
I have heard that some time ago the Omega watch was held to a higher regard by consumers then the Rolex watch. I would love to hear your opinion on that and if your familiar with that train of thought what year or range of years that it reversed. Great NOS Omega amazing amount of suttle variations on the dials, cases crystals, etc, even the buckles have slightly different Omega symbols. Enjoy your videos and appreciate your passion for these wonderful vintage watches.
Thank you for your comment. That's correct, since I've worked on many vintage Omega and Rolex movements. I find that Omega (especially automatic) movements are a lot better during the 50s and earlier compare to Rolex. They are less complicated to work on, better quality, and have less issue with the movement over a period of time. But until Rolex introduced their 1500 series caliber which includes 1520, 1530, 1560, 1570....and so on. That is when Rolex movement made a huge bounce with their movement quality and performance. Omega 550 and 560 series calibers are only comparable to the first generation of the 1500 series Rolex movements. But when Rolex upgraded their 1500 series movements (upgraded version will no longer have the butterfly automatic weight) in the later 60s to 70s. Omega kind of went downhill during the 70s and only until this past decade or so that their movement quality is back to top notch again.
I'm in love,makes vintage Rolex of this era look like a joke.these are my favourite case and dial designs ever.so underated.thanks for posting.
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed watching it. Note that the generation before this will appear the same from the front, but their difference will be this version takes a snap on case back where as the other version takes a screw on case back.
This is the best watch channel on You Tube. No one else comes close. Horological p.0.r.n
Thanks!
If only UA-cam could help share my videos to more viewers. :-)
I like its elegancy and yet "down to earth" style.
The beauty and build quality of the old Omega puts Rolex to shame Ω
Amazing to be able to see that piece in its original condition! I recently got a 2846 and I am very pleased with the wrist presence despite the 34mm case. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure. I think you may enjoy this episode as well: ua-cam.com/video/URDCOdEeo4o/v-deo.html
i have not seen nos omegas ever!! congrats
Now you do! :-)
The word Seamaster always conjures up images of a rugged dive watch, yet many of them are exquisite, delicate looking dress watches that couldn't be more far removed from this image. Thanks
You're very correct. But as a watch maker, I can compare the differences between an ordinary dress watch to a Seamaster dress watch. Seamaster will always have a well sealed crystal with the metal tension ring, crown will always have a gasket, and the case back will have a gasket as well.
Hi Sao, great video! I’m fortunate to own a gorgeous 2766; it’s stunningly beautiful. Hard to imagine this being a Seamaster given that most of the Omega world recognizes the line as a dive watch. I won’t wash the dishes with my 1954 Seasmaster on!
Thank you for sharing Steve. Honestly, if your watch has been properly serviced and sealed, washing dishes will do no harm. Just make sure the replace those gaskets and have a proper fitting crystal. That said, avoid emerging your watch into water or shower with it on. :-)
A dream watch! Thanks for posting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great video to show the elegance of the Omega’s of that time in their pristine condition and to own one takes patience and money to acquire it .
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for the comment.
Great pieces. Love them. Even though they are small size I would wear them with no problem.
Glad you like them!
A thing of beauty is joy forever. What beautiful masterpieces.Amazing video, so well made. Yes, this time you have zoomed in and I could see the beautiful movement. I have the one with center second hand. In mint condition except that the dial is disfigured. Looking for someone who will restore it and make md wear it with pride.
Glad you enjoyed it. You can always try asking on the Omega Forum for referrals.
just wow.. what a find
NOS? Beautiful design. Off the charts quality. As good as it gets.
That’s right!
There is also a non-automatic version I have one, the movement is dated 1952 says swiss made, has the recessed second hand, mine has a problem with the escapement I think, it spins like a propellor if wound up. it has the Seamaster horse in the middle of the back cover
1952 version is probably not a beefy lug model, and a larger size watch under case CK 2639. There is a beefy lug model as well but it should date to around 1954. Lots to learn and people always make mistake assuming the case model without thoroughly comparing the watch. I always dig deep down into details. :-)
What a beautiful watch
Thanks for this really helpful video, really enjoyed it!
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for your comment.
Hello Sao. Thanks for helpful content. I have Omega ref.2767 case, cal.354, i would to ask you, what case clamp is correct for that reference? Omega 330 part 1911 or 1974A? Cheers
Just the coolest watch, definitely want to add a bumper movement to my collection. But other vintage Omega's are before it.. Fabulous video once again. Thanks, Sao
You'll be able to feel the movement bumping from side to side while wearing it.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I wondered about that, going to move it up on the list.
@@jadedarby7290 haha.
@@jadedarby7290 i have one Omega bumper cal 344
Nice video, thanks. Have you noticed any pattern with the finish of the steel (i.e. brushed vs polished)? That is, do models with this three piece case style have the same finishing pattern? On the NOS one, the middle piece of the three piece case looks possibly brushed....
You're welcome. And that's correct, on the side of the main case it does have a slight brushed finish. It is not shinny. Good eyes. Tells me you really study this video well.
These are lovely watches,I have a 1954 longines, fairly similar but hand winding in fair working order,how would mid-50s longines compare to omega in terms of quality?
Nice! There is also a manual wind version of this Seamaster as well. And yes, the movement quality on a mid 50s manual wind Longines will be just as great!
Lovely content, as always.
Out of curiosity - do you know whether the lume of 2766 contains radium? I can't really find any info on that online.
Cheers!
Thank you for your comment. If the dial retains its factory original finish, then luminous is 100% radium. If the dial has been refinished, then it is not radium. You'll need to understand that after 1962, no more watch dials came with radium luminous. Any factory original finish dial with luminous before that is radium. BUT! If you are concerned and worried about the danger of radium. I highly recommend that you watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/FK2DnOoeyjg/v-deo.html
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thank you for your answer and the link.
I recently managed to get a beautiful, gold capped 2766 with an original dial and hands and even some of the lume left but then I found out about the use of radium on watches of that era and got a bit worried.
Such a curious time in watchmaking and human history in general.
I work on many radium watches. The one thing I learned is not to inhale or consume the dust while working on the watch. If you watched that video link that I have provide, it will help diminish your worries. All the old watchmakers that I know of retired years ago and are still alive today. You one radium watch is not going to cause any harm.
very nice video... Omega made very fantastic watches in the sixties. Longines is also underrated... on this time Rolex was not so valuable
I have a 344 from 1951 with a missing pin !
The dial sags a little at 10 o'clock because of that...
Any idea of the price for a repair from my watchmaker or do I have to take it to an Omega store ?
Missing pin as in one the dial feet is broken?
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Missing pin like the one you are referring to at 5:50.
I took it to my watchmaker as soon as I saw your video and apparently, it is indeed missing this small part.
It's a recent purchase and I didn't have it serviced myself (but it was apparently done around 2 years ago).
I have been looking for this specific model for quite some time and it was strangely "cheaper" than the others so I was a bit suspicious.
But after hesitating and taking a close look at the pictures, I finally decided to buy it and I really don't regret anything.
Actually, apart from this pin and maybe a gasket to change, it's in great condition. The movement was restored during the last service by omega, the gold capped case is in great shape, as well as the original crown and buckle, it has an amazing patina dial but still all its lume and no rust on the hands.
Yeah, sorry I get excited and I tend to write waaay to much about it.
Thanks if you read until the end and also your video helped me understand what was wrong so it made it easier to explain to my watchmaker.
@@abelsauvaneix3951 Ah I see, that pin is quite common to go missing. But it is very easy to replace with a new one as well. Your watchmaker should have no issue replacing a new one for you.
Great video and obviously amazing time piece in pristine condition. Do you mind to share the circumstances for that watch ended being stored and forgotten for so many years? thanks!
Thank you for the comment Fernando. I do not know the exact storage reason. It could have been put away in a drawer for all this time. The watch only came with its price tag and no strap. If only I have a time machine I will go back 67 years to find out for you. haha
my favourite Seamaster's beefy lugs!
I look forward to more of your videos OE. VERY informative. I've inherited my Dad's 1963 Seamaster. All original 552 cal, 24 jewels, case #165002. Subbed and liked sir.
Many thanks! And thank you for sharing. Please take good care of your Seamaster. :-)
Quite a gem!
Amazing watch and great content, regards!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Sao
Just discovered your channel and because of the beautiful pieces you have shown, I have decided on getting a 60's vintage omega, rotor automatic, but was wondering what is the largest case size out of a seamaster,constellation,de ville or a geneve..as I would like something bigger than 34mm 👍
Hi Tony, thank you for the comment. There are a handful of oversized automatic throughout the 60s. Some are more common than others. For Constellation wise, there are the round case connie at around 35-36mm which I've made a comparison video on as there are three different round case models. There are a few oversized Seamaster automatic with and without the calendar measuring from 35mm to 36.5mm. And there is also a jumbo size connie at 37mm throughout the early 60s. Just need to do some research and you'll be able to locate some of them. I do not recall their model numbers but have sold many on my site.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel THANKYOU..my search for a stainless steel "jumbo" with dauphine hands has just begun😁👍
Good luck and all the best on your hunt!
How lovely.
Hi Sao, I am new to your channel and I am enjoying learning about vintage Omega. Do you do valuations of vintage Omega watches? If not, can you recommend someone? I have an Omega purchased in 1952 (265 movement) that was kept in a safe deposit box for the last 30+ years. It was serviced by Omega last year and is in beautiful condition. I can send you photographs. It is my friends watch, he just inherited it from his father who bought it new in Tangiers in 1952 - have the original paperwork. He asked me to buy it but we'd like a value range. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks,
George
Hi George,
thank you for the comment and question. Unfortunately, I do not appraise. If you have an account on the Omega forum you'll be able to create a post. There are a lot of specialist on the site who can provide you with an estimation.
Omega Enthusiast Thanks!
Anytime!
Hi Sao - I just posted it in the Omega Forum titled 1952 Omega 265 Movement. Please check it out and let me know what you think of the watch. Thanks for the advice.
I do not recall when the last time I used the forum to be honest. Probably would get lost trying to find your post. Maybe you can include the link here and I'll take a look at it. :-)
Thank you for the informative video. I have always been curious what bumper movements feel like; they say that it feels different but nice.
I found a cal 344 omega auto similar to the one in your video but the watch case is by Star Watches Case Co.. Sadly the caseback only contains the serial number. Would you be able to share how I could gain more information on this watch?
Hi, thank you for the comment. When the case is a Star Case, then it will only have a serial number since it is a customs case made for that particular Omega watch. There is no CK, OT, or KO reference for it.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Would the Extract from the Archives have a copy of the movement & case serial number combination? And how do you think it holds up in value compared to the original factory cases?
@@shadowrealm21 Unfortunately, I do not know about that with regards to the extract. But value wise, it would not worth the same as the original. That said, your star case is still original as well, just not made by Omega.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I understand, thank you for taking the time to reply, really appreciate it.
Wow... the 60th Anniversary reissue is based on this model? Nice piece.
no it is not, I've made a different video on that under the case model CK 2577.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thx. The resemblance is so.... Anyhow will look up that video. Do u think the reissue is a good collector's watch?
You're welcome. They do look almost the same from the front. But CK 2577 will have a screw back instead of a snap on back. I do not own a reissue, but I am sure it is a very good watch mechanical wise. Not a fan of the dial and hands proportion.
Love the watch
What is the music playing in the background? It is lovely.
It was taken from the Iphone movie editing app. haha
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I like it very much. It reminds me of late 90-ties early 2000. The time things had sense.
Dear Sir.
Need your help with 166.009 with caliber 565
script dial, 25xxxxxx -1967
Is it right?
Because i google it just found caliber 562
If I remember correctly, 166.009 was first introduced in 1963 and lasted to 1967. End of 1966 to 1967, it would make sense with a caliber 565 with quick set date feature.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel wonderful, thanks sir so much
@@TimelessHistoryChannel many thanks sir, correct with quick set the date
Just got 3 bumper movements as spareparts 2 cal 351 and 1 352 (running poorly) ruined dial,s and no case,s,,,,,,, i,m hunting
When you rebuild a watch, it’s good to know what case reference and the exact case material that the movement belongs to. Because if anyone order the extract from the Omega archive, it will reveal everything. And if the information doesn’t match, you have a Frankenstein watch.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel
Where do i get info on case that match the movements serial number?
Erik
Awesome!
this is fkin beautiful
Wow, just wow :O
Do all of the dials have swiss or swiss made on the dial? I have seen some examples that don't.
For this model yes! If you do not see it, maybe it could be covered by an incorrect size crystal ring, or a redial.
Good to know, thanks for the content!
@@christiancarrillo5503 You're welcome and thank you for your support!
What size gasket did you use to replace the existing one out of interest?
29.75mm by 1mm thick
Hi why is this and other dress watches called 'seamaster'? It's not dive or watersports watch?
Seamaster does not just mean a dive watch. Seamaster means the watch is water resistant and you can emerge the watch into water at the time. A dive watch would indicate it on the dial to how many meter deep you can go.
How you find them 🤤
My dream!
Hi., I watching your chanell very often and it is great. I am Omega, enthusiat really, and collecting them. My the oldest Omega is 1896, in perfect condition. Please, are you selling watches and is it pissible to buy something from you. Many regards.
website link in description box. :-)
no, no, no! " CK " is a RE - EDITION !
Do you know what CK even mean?
I have heard that some time ago the Omega watch was held to a higher regard by consumers then the Rolex watch. I would love to hear your opinion on that and if your familiar with that train of thought what year or range of years that it reversed. Great NOS Omega amazing amount of suttle variations on the dials, cases crystals, etc, even the buckles have slightly different Omega symbols. Enjoy your videos and appreciate your passion for these wonderful vintage watches.
Thank you for your comment. That's correct, since I've worked on many vintage Omega and Rolex movements. I find that Omega (especially automatic) movements are a lot better during the 50s and earlier compare to Rolex. They are less complicated to work on, better quality, and have less issue with the movement over a period of time. But until Rolex introduced their 1500 series caliber which includes 1520, 1530, 1560, 1570....and so on. That is when Rolex movement made a huge bounce with their movement quality and performance. Omega 550 and 560 series calibers are only comparable to the first generation of the 1500 series Rolex movements. But when Rolex upgraded their 1500 series movements (upgraded version will no longer have the butterfly automatic weight) in the later 60s to 70s. Omega kind of went downhill during the 70s and only until this past decade or so that their movement quality is back to top notch again.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thanks for your illuminating answer your a true enthusiast.
You're more than welcome.