SERIOUSLY??? Save yourself the agony of choice and get some of EACH. And yes, they ALL keep better time after a proper service. Thanks for another great video!
I am genuinely pleased to have found this video (and subsequently subscribed). It was very informative and the chart was a bonus-loaded with info that others typically don't share. You channel saved me, a novice Omega collector, from many mistakes. Being a retired professor with students at the doctoral level, I applaud you for a well-organized presentation that held my interest.
I'm glad it was helpful! Thank you so much for the descriptive comment. The purpose of this channel is to educate my viewers so they can avoid costly mistakes and enjoy learning about vintage watches.
I collect Omega vintage watches. I have one omega pocket watch and my wristwatches go from 1929 to 1964. They are all my favorite watch. I own three 18k and the rest are. stainless steel. None of my watches have a date window. If I need to know the date I pull out my iPhone. I like the clean look of a no-date watch. I own two automatic. One 1944 Bumper and one 1964 24 jewel automatic. The rest are manual wind up. I do not like plate or gold watches. I like the style of the 1930's and 1940's .
Great video and chart. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Most other YT videos are merely glossy opinion pieces lacking basic facts and unvarnished buying advice. Thanks.
i had the almost exact same watch at the end of your video (the gold constellation on the left minus the officially certified ) .I try to learn as much as i can about that watch.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I'm a Omega enthusiast too and I have some watches of the several models from the brand. The movements have a fantastic accuracy along the years. This video was important for me, because I think Constellation models, the first ones, are better than Seamaster and Geneve. In Portugal the models signed Geneve are considered of lower quality. Thanks for the informations.
I would always prefer the Conny chronometer, but they demand premium prices. I usually buy any vintage Seamster I come across that is priced right, and I figure a full service will be on the agenda. I really like that you can wear a $300 to $700 Seamaster and still have a classier watch than the guy who wears an entry-level Rolex.
Great video 📹 but its down to the person which one they like . As for me like my Seiko Tuna and Seiko LX .Plus last year's 2020 Seiko Captain ward limited edition
The automatic movements in the vintage Constellations (eg. 551/561) were Chronometer rated, whereas they were not with the Seamaster (551/561) movements of the same era. Back in the day, the price difference between a piepan Constellation and a Seamaster deVille wasn't all that much, so it made sense (for those with the extra money) to purchase a Constellation (plus IMHO they also looked better). Flash forward to present day, a vintage Constellation commands a much higher resale value than a vintage Seamaster.
My constellation is such a work of art, bi-metal stainless and gold front and back. I have a 510 56 manual seamaster with subsecond hand 2964-1sc-2970 not on your list
Thanks for the information. One might buy a vintage Seamaster assuming it is more waterproof than the others. I sent my 1969 Seamaster 120 back to Switzerland for service in 1989. They were very clear on the receipt servicing a 20 year old watch that they would no long warranty it's water resistance. I continued to SCUBA dive with it and have frequent servicing until it did flood diving in 2005. For a vintage Omega I would not trust water resistance and would not purchase a Seamaster over another, unless that is the style you want. (I know the 120 is not a true professional diving watch but it did well diving to 40 meters for 35 years )
You're welcome. The term waterproof is very misleading. That is why it was replaced with water resistant to a ### depth. In order to still swim with a 40-80 years old vintage watch, you must have your watch maker inspect the overall case condition first. Once that is all checkout to be in good condition, you will need to make sure the crown and case gaskets are both new and proper thickness + size. Lastly, the crystal has to be 100% correct size to tightly fit. If you can press a crystal using your fingers, this watch is not going to last under water.
Interesting comment. I have a gold plated 1955 Geneve I bought new at the time. I had always assumed it was a Seamaster because of the screwed back with the prominent logo. I also took mine SCUBA diving for a few years shortly after I bought it, down to 100ft many times - it never let me down and I wore it regularly every day until about 25 years ago when I bought a quartz watch as the Omega bracelet was getting too loose. I had it in a drawer and got it out a couple of days ago to check if it still works. It does - keeps perfect time and still auto-winds. I took the back off for a look - it's a work of art and beautiful!
Love your work. A question - I own an Omega watch which has "Geneve Seamaster" written on the face. How does this differ from a purely "Seamaster" and a purely "Geneve"?
Hello ! I was wondering about omega models from the this era without name. I have one with 30T2 - 283 caliber and no informations about it on the internet. Thanks for that video!
This video actually apply to every Omega models out there whether it has a model name or not. The most important thing is and I can't stress enough repeating myself is that the condition of the movement must be good.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel just bought two watches one is 18k gold seamaster from finewatch club in uk. Wil like it to be appraisal by you when it arrives. 1958 501 with a white face. Saw your site too late and am impressed by your knowledge and love of Omega watches kind regards Ian from Noosa Australia 🇦🇺
@@paulaadams5217 Feel free to visit my site and use the Donate button to ask any questions unrelated to the products that i have for sale on my site. :-)
Hello there. I'm a new fan. Just found your channel and I'm already in love. Sorry to bother you but would you mind sharing a thought or two about an OMEGA De Ville Quartz Cal.1342? One of these babies just arrived home and I'm having a hard time finding any valuable info about it. Thank you for your time and effort you put on these wonderful videos!
Hi there, Unfortunately, I do not know too much about quartz models. I don't sell or have worked on one for years. I believe calibre 1342 is quite popular; set the time by pushing the crown center button. Just make sure to use the correct type of battery, as the original takes a different voltage and is discontinued due to mercury. Always try to replace it with the Renata brand. Quartz vintage watches are not really expensive since their movements are not repairable and parts are obsolete. Usually, the coil or circuit issue. But I'm sure some watchmakers can still manage to find new old stock parts or buy another good working used movement on ebay for parts.
I have recently bought a 34mm Geneve with 565 movement, blue dial, orange second and very well reserved with steel bracelet and all original parts. May I learn your opinions about it?
Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, there are too many questions via my site email that I can only assist with related to the products I have for sale on the site. Otherwise, you can always donate on the site and ask questions unrelated to what I have for sale.
Thanks for doing the research! This helps if I come across a vintage watch from Omega that I need these details for verification. I found a steel Seamaster cal.552 in poor condition in Calif for 240 bucks, but it kept good time! The only thing is the central second hand is not smooth ticking. Omega wanted three times the price I paid just to send it back to the factory for repairs as they wouldn’t do it locally.
DeVille is all over. You have the simple Deville and you the Seamaster Deville. And even the chronograph Deville. DeVille is the design of classic with a mix of sporty. You can apply any Omega models to this video. At the end of the day, it's the design of the watch that make one appear different to the other. Quality wise, they are just as great.
Thank you for the great content!! What do you think about the Omega De Ville Automatic Ref: 166.0134? Is a good watch to own or would you rather go for another option as a first Omega vintage watch?
You're welcome. Nothing wrong with the Automatic Deville under that ref. It is very similar to the Seamaster Deville except with shorter lugs. Less demand which make it under the radar. It's a good watch to own at a decent price.
Hi ! Wonderful video your Omega watches. The list was not included, Seamaster automatic calibers 670 and 671 ladymatic, 60s ... title of knowledge. Thank you, from Brasil. At: Lauro Elias.
Hi Friend! Suggested video newsletter, Pocket Watch Silver Omega. Being Commemorative watches, Series in four editions case Omega. Some mentioned and known. 1º - The rarest to find and the oldest in the series, 6 commemorative medals, 1889 Paris, 1896 Geneva, 1897 Brussels. Omega stamped in the center. “Spiral Breguet Balancier Compensé Ancre Ligne 15 Rubis Levées Visibles Double Plateau” 2º - Omega stamped in the center. Grand Prix Paris 1900, 6 commemorative medals. ... This series being the best known of the 4 editions. 3º - Omega stamped in the center, Bienne Geneve, 7 commemorative medals 4º - Omega stamped in the center, 12 commemorative medals. Note, I own the 4 commemorative editions of the Silver Omega pocket watch My thank you very much, Bye, bye. At. Lauro Elias - Brazil
I have seen this video which is a great one however I wonder why is not mentioned a 342 CAL for a seamaster watch.....is it ´cause it does not exist such 342 cal otr thre is another reason?
Omega Seamaster Quartz is not 70-year-old though. Quartz models were first introduced in the late 70s. Unfortunately, I do not sell them and do not know their value.
Quality-wise, they are equally significant as long as you compare them fairly. For example, you cannot compare a Constellation with a 564 movement to a Geneve with a 1012 calibre. The Constellation, of course, will be a better quality watch. And you cannot compare a Geneve with a 565 movement to a Constellation with a 1002 calibre; the Geneve would be the better watch. But if you compare a Constellation with a 564 calibre to a Geneve with a 565 calibre, you will get two equally quality watches. Design-wise, well, there are some really amazing-looking Seamaster references that surpass the look of most Constellations. I can keep on going. At the end of the day, it all comes down to the class of the watch. Constellation is a more prominent name, so it will always be the more expensive piece in most cases.
Looking for vintage omegas, and I found a De Ville Prestige in really good condition for a nice price. I also found a serviced seamaster from the 60s and a serviced constellation from the 70s. Which one should I purchase for long-term use?
Another great video! Thanks for making! I'm starting to shop for an early-1950s Seamaster. Still deciding between designs, but do you have any suggestions for which movement I should aim for? When I see the right one, I'll definitely buy from your site.
If you're looking for 1950s, you can chose between any of those 50s calibers that you see in the chart. But like I stated, the condition of the movement is most important. You buy a watch with a poor condition movement then you are taking a chance.
Omega 10## calibers are not as great as previous calibers. And no watchmaker likes to work on a cosmic 2000. Case is super sealed and it takes a regular waterproof crown. It’s like a fire fighter in full gear and he puts on a regular face mask.
Not helpful really. You did not answer your own posed question. So, which is the best movment to buy if you are buying a Constellation. I liked the one you showed in the video
I don't think this video describes which Constellation is the best to buy. I am comparing all the models in this video. For example, they would perform just as great if you have a 1968 Constellation vs a Seamaster, Geneve, etc., from 1968. A date-only Constellation from 1968 will come with a calibre 564 movement, and the Seamaster or Geneve will most likely come with a 565 movement. 564 and 565 are literally the same movements, except that 564 has undergone the COSO test. Accuracy-wise, both are just as accurate. That said, if you compare a 1954 Constellation to a 1964 Seamaster, the Seamaster will definitely carry the better movement. But at the end of the day, ensure the watch you're buying comes with a clean movement.
I noticed your Sea master steel with the gold hands. I have a Omega without a model name. I believe it is a 1950’s watch. I made this watch pop by its watch band. It is a classy watch. But in my opinion it needs some thing to get from a watch a nice but dull looking watch. I put a blue sting ray band with a omega buckle. It really makes the watch pop. There are different color of stingray since the watch is steel and gold I think any of the colors will look good. Jim Mustin
Well done, explained in a very precise way...Great advice for all considering a Omega. Absolutely love the chart. Truly appreciate your time, and learn so much.
Genieve not a chronometer. Also the quality on the dial is night and day from the Constellation to Genieve. The fonts on the Constellation are sharper and more comparable to the Rolex dial quality of the same era. The Genieve fonts are messy, look at the M on the dial in Omega
@@TimelessHistoryChannel If you study multiple images on google you will notice the M. The dip in the V part of the M always goes under the text of the word. Have a look, perhaps in the 60s they were not precise. But this seems to be an issue in Geneve but not constellation. I love Omega vintage. I got disillusioned with it and got a modern Omega DeVille prestige silver dial with leather strap. I love vintage but it’s hard. I understand now why you are not on Omega forum. I am not being funny with you just my experience. Name is Paul
Deville can be part of the Seamaster line or on their own like the Geneve. But how great are they? The answer is exactly like my explanation in the video.
Hello Sir... I just want to seek your advice on an Omega Speedmaster Professional Quartz with Ref No 186.0004 from 1977. I have a NOS mint condition piece with all the features functioning very well. Please enlighten me on this particular model. Thank you.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I also own a 1961 167.005 Caliber 551 Omega Constellation in "beads of rice" original bracelet too. I actually watched all your videos prior to buying it from a friend. Your videos are very interesting and full of insights that we the buyers can learn from. Keep it up! 谢谢您！
Hi, Your watch cannot be from 1955 when the reference is 166.067. You can learn more about it from this video: ua-cam.com/video/CpHQmEL0Ryk/v-deo.html Won’t wind can be the automatic system causing the winding system to lock up. Your watchmaker will need to service the watch and provide fresh lubricants. It could also be a crown issue too. May need a new crown gasket.
@@fmkrowa Haha, Now it makes sense! You'll need to find out the movement serial number in order to date the watch. Unfortunately, I do not service watches for anyone due to my busy schedule. I only service the watches I have for sale or the pieces sold on my site.
Thanks, you’re a gentleman. If I can get it in better shape I’ll check in at the shop and see if you’d like to sell. Very unusual ‘gold’ dial face and while it’s a clean movement and works well, I’m not skilled enough to attempt a service.
@@fmkrowa Thank you for the offer. But I only purchase from a few sources I've been dealing with for years. Also, anything that I have for sale must be serviced by me. Too many watchmakers need to learn how to service a vintage watch correctly and end up devaluing the watch. A sparkle dial is very common on this model. If you're looking for a watchmaker or to sell the piece, try creating a post on the Omega Forums. Good luck with the sale, and Happy New Year!
Great info! Love your chanel! I really like the two Geneve models in this video. Especially the one with the red seconds hand. What are those models or references? They look like new. Are they NOS?
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thanks! Great info as usual! So the funky colored ones don't have separate reference numbers. Oh well, I found a few on chrono. But not in the best of shape. With lots of patina, which can be cool but I think I'll wait for a better one.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Wow! Very cool indeed. Never seen that before! I've seen that in 2022, one was sold for 2400 euro's. Oh well, wish I started vintage 10 years earlier!
@@TheHanniballs I think I know which one you're referring to. That was a crazy amount since another in the same condition was sold for about $1000 US a year prior!
Please do not do that. This sort of thinking is very bad. You can replace the dial and I will know it immediately. But to someone who is new to the hobby, they will not be able to tell while they spend their hard earn money to get ripped off buying a franken piece. Please do alter a vintage watch just so that you can make more money. Thank you kindly.
I really appreciate how you use your skills as a watchmaker to inform new collectors about these great watches. Thanks!
It is important that crucial information like this gets spread out in the watch community.
All Omegas are top quality. So simply go for the one that you like the most.
SERIOUSLY??? Save yourself the agony of choice and get some of EACH. And yes, they ALL keep better time after a proper service. Thanks for another great video!
I am genuinely pleased to have found this video (and subsequently subscribed). It was very informative and the chart was a bonus-loaded with info that others typically don't share. You channel saved me, a novice Omega collector, from many mistakes. Being a retired professor with students at the doctoral level, I applaud you for a well-organized presentation that held my interest.
I'm glad it was helpful! Thank you so much for the descriptive comment. The purpose of this channel is to educate my viewers so they can avoid costly mistakes and enjoy learning about vintage watches.
I collect Omega vintage watches. I have one omega pocket watch and my wristwatches go from 1929 to 1964. They are all my favorite watch.
I own three 18k and the rest are. stainless steel. None of my watches have a date window. If I need to know the date I pull out my iPhone. I like the clean look of a no-date watch. I own two automatic. One 1944 Bumper and one 1964 24 jewel automatic. The rest are manual wind up. I do not like plate or gold watches. I like the style of the 1930's and 1940's .
I believe I would watch the hours long version of this video. Thank you for the short version!
If only making UA-cam video was my full time job. Unfortunately, I am very busy repairing watches as a full time watchmaker.
Great video and chart. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Most other YT videos are merely glossy opinion pieces lacking basic facts and unvarnished buying advice. Thanks.
Unfortunately, people appreciate those videos more. Learning the truth and fact can be painful sometime.
i had the almost exact same watch at the end of your video (the gold constellation on the left minus the officially certified ) .I try to learn as much as i can about that watch.
I love the feel of the rotor bounces off the springs in my Seamaster 354 and 351 which someone might have thought it's broken 😆 Thank you!
Sure! haha
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I'm a Omega enthusiast too and I have some watches of the several models from the brand. The movements have a fantastic accuracy along the years. This video was important for me, because I think Constellation models, the first ones, are better than Seamaster and Geneve. In Portugal the models signed Geneve are considered of lower quality. Thanks for the informations.
The black dial with gold indices pie pan Constellation with gold case and bracelet is one of the most beautiful watches ever in my opinion.
Black and gold always look impressive! 😀
Good episode 👍👍👍
Thank you!
I would always prefer the Conny chronometer, but they demand premium prices.
I usually buy any vintage Seamster I come across that is priced right, and I figure a full service will be on the agenda.
I really like that you can wear a $300 to $700 Seamaster and still have a classier watch than the guy who wears an entry-level Rolex.
Great video 📹 but its down to the person which one they like .
As for me like my Seiko Tuna and Seiko LX .Plus last year's 2020 Seiko Captain ward limited edition
That's correct. This video only explain the truth about what's inside. But what ones wants to own that is totally up to them.
The automatic movements in the vintage Constellations (eg. 551/561) were Chronometer rated, whereas they were not with the Seamaster (551/561) movements of the same era. Back in the day, the price difference between a piepan Constellation and a Seamaster deVille wasn't all that much, so it made sense (for those with the extra money) to purchase a Constellation (plus IMHO they also looked better).
Flash forward to present day, a vintage Constellation commands a much higher resale value than a vintage Seamaster.
Thank you for the comment and fantastic information!
My constellation is such a work of art, bi-metal stainless and gold front and back.
I have a 510 56 manual seamaster with subsecond hand 2964-1sc-2970 not on your list
Very educational video. Did you post a pdf of that chart? It’s really helpful!
Unfortunately, I did not.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel 😞
Sorry about that. But this video will always be on this channel. :-)
@@TimelessHistoryChannel thank you for your very educational videos! 🙏
Thanks for the information. One might buy a vintage Seamaster assuming it is more waterproof than the others. I sent my 1969 Seamaster 120 back to Switzerland for service in 1989. They were very clear on the receipt servicing a 20 year old watch that they would no long warranty it's water resistance. I continued to SCUBA dive with it and have frequent servicing until it did flood diving in 2005. For a vintage Omega I would not trust water resistance and would not purchase a Seamaster over another, unless that is the style you want. (I know the 120 is not a true professional diving watch but it did well diving to 40 meters for 35 years )
You're welcome. The term waterproof is very misleading. That is why it was replaced with water resistant to a ### depth.
In order to still swim with a 40-80 years old vintage watch, you must have your watch maker inspect the overall case condition first. Once that is all checkout to be in good condition, you will need to make sure the crown and case gaskets are both new and proper thickness + size. Lastly, the crystal has to be 100% correct size to tightly fit. If you can press a crystal using your fingers, this watch is not going to last under water.
Interesting comment. I have a gold plated 1955 Geneve I bought new at the time. I had always assumed it was a Seamaster because of the screwed back with the prominent logo. I also took mine SCUBA diving for a few years shortly after I bought it, down to 100ft many times - it never let me down and I wore it regularly every day until about 25 years ago when I bought a quartz watch as the Omega bracelet was getting too loose. I had it in a drawer and got it out a couple of days ago to check if it still works. It does - keeps perfect time and still auto-winds. I took the back off for a look - it's a work of art and beautiful!
Love your work.
A question - I own an Omega watch which has "Geneve Seamaster" written on the face. How does this differ from a purely "Seamaster" and a purely "Geneve"?
What this video and you'll learn about it: ua-cam.com/video/zdTJ_TobhFw/v-deo.html
Apply to both automatic and manual wind.
Hello ! I was wondering about omega models from the this era without name. I have one with 30T2 - 283 caliber and no informations about it on the internet. Thanks for that video!
This video actually apply to every Omega models out there whether it has a model name or not. The most important thing is and I can't stress enough repeating myself is that the condition of the movement must be good.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Cheers
I love the constellation, especially the cushion style case! Stunning and looks bigger than it is !
Thank you for the comment. In that case, you must watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/6PNLQ-105wQ/v-deo.html
Loving your channel 🌻🇦🇺
Many thanks! 😁
@@TimelessHistoryChannel just bought two watches one is 18k gold seamaster from finewatch club in uk. Wil like it to be appraisal by you when it arrives. 1958 501 with a white face. Saw your site too late and am impressed by your knowledge and love of Omega watches kind regards Ian from Noosa Australia 🇦🇺
@@paulaadams5217 Feel free to visit my site and use the Donate button to ask any questions unrelated to the products that i have for sale on my site. :-)
I got an old omega watch and I hope you could restore it.
Unfortunately, I only restore my own watches. But try asking on the Omega forums to see if someone there can refer you to a reliable watchmaker.
Hello there. I'm a new fan. Just found your channel and I'm already in love. Sorry to bother you but would you mind sharing a thought or two about an OMEGA
De Ville Quartz Cal.1342? One of these babies just arrived home and I'm having a hard time finding any valuable info about it. Thank you for your time and effort you put on these wonderful videos!
Hi there,
Unfortunately, I do not know too much about quartz models. I don't sell or have worked on one for years. I believe calibre 1342 is quite popular; set the time by pushing the crown center button. Just make sure to use the correct type of battery, as the original takes a different voltage and is discontinued due to mercury. Always try to replace it with the Renata brand. Quartz vintage watches are not really expensive since their movements are not repairable and parts are obsolete. Usually, the coil or circuit issue. But I'm sure some watchmakers can still manage to find new old stock parts or buy another good working used movement on ebay for parts.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel thank you so much for taking time to reply to my comment. You’re top class.
@@truper232424 Anytime, my friend. :-)
Binge watching your videos before i purchase my first vintage piece, great job mate!
What did you decide to buy?
I have recently bought a 34mm Geneve with 565 movement, blue dial, orange second and very well reserved with steel bracelet and all original parts. May I learn your opinions about it?
Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, there are too many questions via my site email that I can only assist with related to the products I have for sale on the site. Otherwise, you can always donate on the site and ask questions unrelated to what I have for sale.
Thanks for doing the research! This helps if I come across a vintage watch from Omega that I need these details for verification. I found a steel Seamaster cal.552 in poor condition in Calif for 240 bucks, but it kept good time! The only thing is the central second hand is not smooth ticking. Omega wanted three times the price I paid just to send it back to the factory for repairs as they wouldn’t do it locally.
I love them all but this raises a question : If there are 3 production types, where does De Ville come in to the mix & what does it mean?
DeVille is all over. You have the simple Deville and you the Seamaster Deville. And even the chronograph Deville. DeVille is the design of classic with a mix of sporty. You can apply any Omega models to this video. At the end of the day, it's the design of the watch that make one appear different to the other. Quality wise, they are just as great.
Thank you for the great content!! What do you think about the Omega De Ville Automatic Ref: 166.0134? Is a good watch to own or would you rather go for another option as a first Omega vintage watch?
You're welcome. Nothing wrong with the Automatic Deville under that ref. It is very similar to the Seamaster Deville except with shorter lugs. Less demand which make it under the radar. It's a good watch to own at a decent price.
Thank you for this graph! So much hard won knowledge shared! I appreciate it!
My pleasure!
Hi ! Wonderful video your Omega watches. The list was not included, Seamaster automatic calibers 670 and 671 ladymatic, 60s ... title of knowledge. Thank you, from Brasil. At: Lauro Elias.
That's correct. I did not include lady's calibers or that chart will be a lot more than just 670 and 671. There are the 4xx and 68x series as well.
As always, a valuable lesson on vintage Omega.
Thank you! :-)
My Omegas are like children I love them all
You are a wonderful watch owner. Keep it up!
Haha, totally agree. Love them all and can’t wait to have more (Omega’s).
I second that, they are my pride and joy, love to show them off.
Hi Friend!
Suggested video newsletter, Pocket Watch Silver Omega.
Being Commemorative watches, Series in four editions case Omega.
Some mentioned and known.
1º - The rarest to find and the oldest in the series, 6 commemorative medals,
1889 Paris, 1896 Geneva, 1897 Brussels.
Omega stamped in the center.
“Spiral Breguet Balancier Compensé Ancre Ligne 15 Rubis Levées Visibles Double Plateau”
2º - Omega stamped in the center. Grand Prix Paris 1900, 6 commemorative medals.
... This series being the best known of the 4 editions.
3º - Omega stamped in the center, Bienne Geneve, 7 commemorative medals
4º - Omega stamped in the center, 12 commemorative medals.
Note, I own the 4 commemorative editions of the Silver Omega pocket watch
My thank you very much, Bye, bye. At. Lauro Elias - Brazil
. Without forgetting .... This commemorative edition, was only manufactured in Caliber 19", 18", 18LPB, 18LPS, 18SPB.
indeed an excellent video! ..that ss constellation with black dial is really good looking.
I have seen this video which is a great one however I wonder why is not mentioned a 342 CAL for a seamaster watch.....is it ´cause it does not exist such 342 cal otr thre is another reason?
342 exists on several early 1950s Seamaster. A first generation Seamaster also uses this caliber.
Very informative , especially when im looking to learn as much as i can before buying my first vintage Omega
Hi , i have an Omega Pocket Watch caliber 35 ML and i could not find anything about this caliber , can you help me with this ? Thanks
A great video extolling the virtues of all Omega watches.
I have omega almost 70 years old how much is this omega seamaster quarts
Omega Seamaster Quartz is not 70-year-old though. Quartz models were first introduced in the late 70s. Unfortunately, I do not sell them and do not know their value.
But why is vintage Constellation more expensive than a vintage Genève in the end?
You should have said more on the design and dial quality and such.
Quality-wise, they are equally significant as long as you compare them fairly. For example, you cannot compare a Constellation with a 564 movement to a Geneve with a 1012 calibre. The Constellation, of course, will be a better quality watch. And you cannot compare a Geneve with a 565 movement to a Constellation with a 1002 calibre; the Geneve would be the better watch. But if you compare a Constellation with a 564 calibre to a Geneve with a 565 calibre, you will get two equally quality watches. Design-wise, well, there are some really amazing-looking Seamaster references that surpass the look of most Constellations. I can keep on going. At the end of the day, it all comes down to the class of the watch. Constellation is a more prominent name, so it will always be the more expensive piece in most cases.
im still wearing my 68 Seamaster 861 Chrono.. same as yours from the another video..
Like to pick up a Omega vintage watch from the 60’s. Still need to save up some money first.
All the best
Looking for vintage omegas, and I found a De Ville Prestige in really good condition for a nice price. I also found a serviced seamaster from the 60s and a serviced constellation from the 70s. Which one should I purchase for long-term use?
I have a 1960s Seamater 18ct gold my father left it to me,not sure how much it's worth
You can always create a post on the Omega forums and someone there should be able to assist you.
The video I was looking for! Wish I found this before buying them!
Omega or rolex?
What is better? Rolex DateJust or Omega Constellation from the 1950s to the 1970s?
ua-cam.com/video/9ArXnuLZ0bE/v-deo.html
why dont you sell these vintage watches 😅😅😅
You do know that my website link is in the description box right? lol
Another great video! Thanks for making! I'm starting to shop for an early-1950s Seamaster. Still deciding between designs, but do you have any suggestions for which movement I should aim for? When I see the right one, I'll definitely buy from your site.
If you're looking for 1950s, you can chose between any of those 50s calibers that you see in the chart. But like I stated, the condition of the movement is most important. You buy a watch with a poor condition movement then you are taking a chance.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel thanks!
i just got done fixing a watch for a friend it was a omega 500.
seamaster!!! you can take them anywhere
Would supporting u on patrion prompt u to help me buy one of these beauty's?
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Nope never had any of these brands. One day maybe.
One day. Take your time. A good watch does not need to say Omega on the dial either. :-)
Any opinions on whether these vintage omegas are too small for a 7 3/8 inch wrist?
I think they will fit perfect. But at the end of the day it comes to personal preference. So best to try them on before you finalize your decision
561.....564 !
What about Seamaster Cosmic 2000?
Omega 10## calibers are not as great as previous calibers. And no watchmaker likes to work on a cosmic 2000. Case is super sealed and it takes a regular waterproof crown. It’s like a fire fighter in full gear and he puts on a regular face mask.
What about seamaster cal 1020? I got only few informations about the watch.
Condition condition condition. They are not very good movement. But the condition will help the performance of the watch.
Nice. Thank you for your work. I appreciate it. I don’t know much about older watches but I like them.
You’re very welcome
Not helpful really. You did not answer your own posed question. So, which is the best movment to buy if you are buying a Constellation. I liked the one you showed in the video
I don't think this video describes which Constellation is the best to buy. I am comparing all the models in this video. For example, they would perform just as great if you have a 1968 Constellation vs a Seamaster, Geneve, etc., from 1968. A date-only Constellation from 1968 will come with a calibre 564 movement, and the Seamaster or Geneve will most likely come with a 565 movement. 564 and 565 are literally the same movements, except that 564 has undergone the COSO test. Accuracy-wise, both are just as accurate. That said, if you compare a 1954 Constellation to a 1964 Seamaster, the Seamaster will definitely carry the better movement. But at the end of the day, ensure the watch you're buying comes with a clean movement.
I noticed your Sea master steel with the gold hands. I have a Omega without a model name.
I believe it is a 1950’s watch. I made this watch pop by its watch band. It is a classy watch.
But in my opinion it needs some thing to get from a watch a nice but dull looking watch.
I put a blue sting ray band with a omega buckle. It really makes the watch pop. There are different color of stingray since the watch is steel and gold I think any of the colors will look
good.
Jim Mustin
Blue always works really well on gold-capped
Well done, explained in a very precise way...Great advice for all considering a Omega.
Absolutely love the chart.
Truly appreciate your time, and learn so much.
Glad it was helpful!
Genieve not a chronometer. Also the quality on the dial is night and day from the Constellation to Genieve. The fonts on the Constellation are sharper and more comparable to the Rolex dial quality of the same era. The Genieve fonts are messy, look at the M on the dial in Omega
cannot compare just using one Geneve example. There are many outstanding Geneve model as well. :)
@@TimelessHistoryChannel If you study multiple images on google you will notice the M. The dip in the V part of the M always goes under the text of the word. Have a look, perhaps in the 60s they were not precise. But this seems to be an issue in Geneve but not constellation. I love Omega vintage. I got disillusioned with it and got a modern Omega DeVille prestige silver dial with leather strap. I love vintage but it’s hard. I understand now why you are not on Omega forum. I am not being funny with you just my experience. Name is Paul
I have a longing watch and I want to service it or by it.
Great video. Thanks
Todos los omegas son excelentes...he tenido muchos...de los modernos creo que el Aqua Terra es de lo mejor.
Congrats on the excellent informational video. Just a quick question, where does the DeVille line stand?
Deville can be part of the Seamaster line or on their own like the Geneve. But how great are they? The answer is exactly like my explanation in the video.
Which Omega movements would you call superior? 55x and 56x automatic models?
Condition condition condition. Can't stress enough. 55x or 56x are superior, but only if they are in good condition.
Thank you for the information.
I love this channel! Excellent video!
Hello Sir... I just want to seek your advice on an Omega Speedmaster Professional Quartz with Ref No 186.0004 from 1977. I have a NOS mint condition piece with all the features functioning very well. Please enlighten me on this particular model. Thank you.
Sorry, but I do not deal with quartz models. Best to try asking on the Omega Forums.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I also own a 1961 167.005 Caliber 551 Omega Constellation in "beads of rice" original bracelet too. I actually watched all your videos prior to buying it from a friend. Your videos are very interesting and full of insights that we the buyers can learn from. Keep it up! 谢谢您！
@@brandontan1807 Nice! Might be from 1963 if its a 167.005. 1961 is most likely a 14381 or 14900 Connie. Take good care of it and Bu Yong Xie
i seem to remember that these Omega movements were gold plated but on what base metal , brass , copper , steel or what ?
members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/rgold/rgold.html
@@TimelessHistoryChannel : yes , thank you . makes sense , copper plate on brass , i guess , for aesthetic purposes .
also brass cases ....easy to make , plate or machine .
Great vid! Time to buy me a Geneve
Fantastic video, super in-depth, really appreciate it!
Glad it was helpful!
Great content
Excellent......thank you for the information
My pleasure
Great video!
As always thank you.
I have a 55 seamaster, w cyclops. Runs great, but won’t wind (frozen). It’s got a gold dial and 166.067 on the case back (inside). First thoughts?
Hi,
Your watch cannot be from 1955 when the reference is 166.067. You can learn more about it from this video: ua-cam.com/video/CpHQmEL0Ryk/v-deo.html
Won’t wind can be the automatic system causing the winding system to lock up. Your watchmaker will need to service the watch and provide fresh lubricants. It could also be a crown issue too. May need a new crown gasket.
Sorry I meant 565…. Maybe 1970. I’m interested in a service, but also in a sale… do you service then sell like ‘consignment’ , for your fee , etc?
@@fmkrowa Haha, Now it makes sense! You'll need to find out the movement serial number in order to date the watch.
Unfortunately, I do not service watches for anyone due to my busy schedule. I only service the watches I have for sale or the pieces sold on my site.
Thanks, you’re a gentleman. If I can get it in better shape I’ll check in at the shop and see if you’d like to sell. Very unusual ‘gold’ dial face and while it’s a clean movement and works well, I’m not skilled enough to attempt a service.
@@fmkrowa Thank you for the offer. But I only purchase from a few sources I've been dealing with for years. Also, anything that I have for sale must be serviced by me. Too many watchmakers need to learn how to service a vintage watch correctly and end up devaluing the watch. A sparkle dial is very common on this model. If you're looking for a watchmaker or to sell the piece, try creating a post on the Omega Forums. Good luck with the sale, and Happy New Year!
So informative
Genever !
Thanks!
Awesome channel !
Thank you!
Great info! Love your chanel! I really like the two Geneve models in this video. Especially the one with the red seconds hand. What are those models or references? They look like new. Are they NOS?
This video will answer your question: ua-cam.com/video/uW5sI3Uy9U8/v-deo.html
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Thanks! Great info as usual! So the funky colored ones don't have separate reference numbers. Oh well, I found a few on chrono. But not in the best of shape. With lots of patina, which can be cool but I think I'll wait for a better one.
@@TheHanniballs Do not rush. Take your time. One of the coolest versions is the race rally dial (black and white)
@@TimelessHistoryChannel Wow! Very cool indeed. Never seen that before! I've seen that in 2022, one was sold for 2400 euro's. Oh well, wish I started vintage 10 years earlier!
@@TheHanniballs I think I know which one you're referring to. That was a crazy amount since another in the same condition was sold for about $1000 US a year prior!
Replace the Geneve watch face with a Seamaster and make a few hundred bucks !
Please do not do that. This sort of thinking is very bad. You can replace the dial and I will know it immediately. But to someone who is new to the hobby, they will not be able to tell while they spend their hard earn money to get ripped off buying a franken piece. Please do alter a vintage watch just so that you can make more money. Thank you kindly.
@@TimelessHistoryChannel I only own Seamasters I have eight of them I do not own any Genevas so just being hypothetical. Thank you !