Destiny 2 The Final Shape is Everything We Hoped For - Fireteam Chat
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Full Spoiler warning this episode! Destin, Travis, and Paul sit down to talk about their last few weeks with Destiny 2 The Final Shape, and their review of the content within.
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The main thing that makes Zavala's questioning of the Traveler warranted was during Witch Queen when we found out Savathun was given the light instead of stolen.
The reason why it "didnt matter" to you Destin in the Microcosm quest is because the highest member of your fireteam brought your ligjt level up to minus 5 what they were. So if they were quite high it would make it easier. If you were all -40+ then it would be significantly different.
I was the highest power on the fireteam.
Travis really let me down saying that was out of left field for zavala. Does he not remember zavala literally almost smashing his own table when he found out the traveler let the hive, our most devious adversary, have the light. Not to mention the dark future lorebook that showed that zavala can be broken.
Truly the only thing holding it back for me is the unfortunate passing of Lance. Nothing else could have been done, and Keith David was wonderful, but his absence was so felt.
The problem with The Witness is, up until The Final Shape campaign, you had zero interaction with him. He was just this random dude whose face we've first seen at the end of the WQ campaign, then he had a couple of innocent lines in LF, he got mentioned a bunch of times here and there, and then he entered the traveler mumbling to himself under his coat. Hardly a fearsome believable antagonist with a proper buildup. They salvaged this mostly in the Final Shape, I especially loved how he tried to convert all the vanguard heroes to his side and then started speaking some ancient language during his bossfights, that part was cool. However I still would have liked if he was built up as the villain a little bit better over the years.
I would say sort of in terms of interacting with the Witness. It spoke to us a few times through our ghost and on the lunar pyramid ship in the form of our doppleganger.
My biggest issue is like... As powerful as The Witness is/was... Why did he give us a way to beat him?! Also, this entity was a god and has been around for eons before the Collapse that he caused. Beating it should have been D3 alone.
He didn't. A consequence of being inside the pale heart is memory becoming physical. The nature of the light and the inside of the traveler pulled that memory and made it real.
Yeah my friend, you misunderstood what happened and perhaps what The Witness is. We know from the collectors edition that the concept of The Final Shape led to a genocidal event with a political overtone, followed by the mass su1cide event that birthed the Witness. It's a creature formed from psychic trauma and using the Dark to form mental connections and shape the minds. But the political part still plays a role, there were members of the species that were dissidents and the Light made the memory of them into physical objects we could manipulate and interact with.
Just wanted to say Destin we did the 2nd boss encounter the other night for your first one and it was a joy… playing this game this many years I’ve come across content creators but you were by far the most relaxed and level headed.
Well we weren't stuck there for 8 hours so... lol But thank you so much for the kind comment.
As far as I'm concerned regarding the perceived shortcomings with Zavala's arc during the campaign; Loss, and the trauma, regret and pain relating to it are not so easy to get over, as I'm sure many can attest to. Zavala not only buried his wife and son when they first died, but he then had to again bury Safiyah (metaphorically) again during Season of the Haunted, only to have those wounds ripped open, not once, but twice within the span of a year, by temptation from The Witness. Someone we KNOW deliberately uses our desires against us in a vivid fashion.
To me, him wanting to fall to temptation made sense. He never truly let go of the regret and pain he felt from their loss, and when offered the chance to see and be with both Safiyah and Hakim again, of course he'd consider it. Not to mention his crisis of faith regarding The Traveler all throughout the last year of seasons. Had Targe not sacrificed himself (and Lance not died, so Bungie didn't want to taint his legacy), I wholeheartedly believe that Zavala would have fallen to The Witness.
I think Zavala's arc is muddied by 2 plotlines, is it about his family or is it about the dissenters? Because it felt like most of it was spent about the dissenters, which in the end he was correct about them, since without the dissenters we couldn't defeat the witness.
It's about both, his family is the reason why he listened to the Dissenter
I think zavalas story line is great. He's broken it's been trending that way for a while. He desperately wanted his family back.
I'm so glad they've built up to it over the past few years.
Absolutely. We got insight into his history in Season of the Haunted (in terms of cutscenes and stuff, it existed in lore before then). It was developed in subsequent seasons and expansions. I don't think he "overcame" his grief at all in Haunted. He was reminded of it. Cayde acknowledged as much during The Final Shape campaign, that the others needed to learn to let go and that it wasn't fair his being there was rubbing salt in their wounds. Likewise, the Witness was rubbing salt in Zavala's wounds by reminding him of his losses and what it could offer. His faith in the Traveller was also challenged before - when he learned that the Traveller had resurrected Savathun and her Lucent Hive. His faltering faith in The Final Shape is an extension of these plot threads.
Even then, it was clear to me that he wasn't going in the direction of falling to the Witness during this campaign. Whilst his faith in the Traveller faltered, he remained stalwart in his opposition of the Witness. He recognised the threat it posed. His first cutscene in the Pale Heart included dialogue on this position when he was talking to Ikora about Saffi. Zavala in the campaign was not at risk of turning, but of recklessly throwing his life away. It took Targe sacrificing himself to help Zavala see sense.
I just feel like it came outta no were from the energy he was giving at the start of the campaign because he was gun ho at the start then boom sad sacks the next time we see him. I get that the memory of his old house and that will play a big part in causing his change of mindset but then at the end of the strike and the start of the next mission later in the campaign he's goes full nuclear. Especially from what I thought was acceptance at the end of season of the huanted
Perhaps that feeling that it came out of nowhere may also be related to the change of voice actor. Lance's tone and version of Zavala was more timid compared to Keith's more gravelly voice.
As someone who plays every expansion but really fell off of seasons and missed his story in haunted, I thought it worked well here. I assume they included it, even if it is a bit of a rehash, because many people like me missed it and its extremely important we know the main characters' motivations in this campaign.
Zavala’s brush with The Dissenters was the breakthrough he has been looking for, presumably, for centuries. He has been disappointed with The Traveler since his son. Disillusioned with The Traveler since at least The Red War. And flat out, losing all faith since the arrival of the Black fleet and the choosing of The Hive. The Traveler actually moving but staying did give him some hope but then it failed to stop The Witness. Zavala’s story, to me, is not about wanting his family back. He flat out says that he knew he Had to tell The Witness no. Zavala’s story was about a Breakthrough. The whispers finally gave him HOPE. He finally felt something other than powerlessness, which he has felt since his son’s death and throughout the seasons. And Ikora basically pushed him further into it by not understanding that. She completely misunderstood his feelings and motivation. This was about Zavala feeling useful. Saint 14 found purpose. Osiris found purpose. Crow found purpose. Eris found purpose. Etc etc and we supported each one of them through their moment. Zavala just spent the whole time feeling like, What can I do? And why isn’t The Traveler fighting?! And Ikora basically shut him down. That’s why he kept saying, “You all have taken unimaginable risks!” The Dissenters offered him a glimmer of hope and a sense of purpose. It finally gave him a mission that felt consequential. Something HE could do. AND…. He was right. Zavala’s gamble is THE reason we won.
Glad my boy Paul was on the show. I still miss CJ and Sean though.
CJ what's the man
Same man I miss all those guys... especially My dude CJ
There was a line from one of the dissenters that was like “we’re too weak” and at that moment I got really excited for the conclusion to be that Zavala does submit himself into The Witness, then fulfills his ultimate role as Commander by becoming a leader inside the Witness, uniting the Dissenters and ultimately splitting him back into multiple entities. The idea of losing Zavala, then fighting The Witness on the outside while Zavala (unknown to us) is rallying a new army inside would’ve been a cool Gandalf the Grey/White moment, where he bursts out of The Witness, weakening it enough for us to start picking off individual entities.
The sword you're looking for is the caster frame with Polaris Lance. 39:40 its throw a cloud that scorches over time and ignites. Its nuts
Yes. That one.
I think where this expansion fails is how raid mechanic it feels. I’m honestly not doing anything except upgrading weapons and doing pathfinder.
Many players have become solo due to how there were time there was nothing really to do on Destiny. I’ve learned to solo so much of the past content, now they require me to play with other again
I don’t even own a proper headset anymore
And when people get tired of the current content (THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN) it may be difficult to run this partner stuff. I think that’s going to be Bungie’s biggest mistake
@@csharp57 you can farm pale hearts chests albeit smaller chances
Damn been how many years? 25 years ? lol missed this show 😂
Travis is a different person on this show. Where is the argumentative Tie Guy that gives so much shit to Ebontis lol
Get Ebontis on this show and you’ll see him. 😂
@@TieGuyTravis I love it. I dig your intelligence and your argumentative style. Keep it the great work
I agree the 4th raid encounter is too much. The only reason is because none of the mechanics in that encounter are in the raid or campaign. Even in last wish the symbols and plates were reinforced in the raid. wk 2 going into wk3 and 4th encounter still just difficult to grasp. I think they should have removed the countdown timer . Ppl will end up just skipping 4th encounter .
Boohoo cant learn mechanics 🥹
If the raid is so hard, is it meant only for the 1%? New players or players that cannot sweat are out?
Why is the raid considered good if only a tiny fraction of the players can play it?
Because it's a raid
I wouldve liked a cayde and failsafe interaction before he left again.
Also the exotic class items NEED more ornaments or just an ability to transmog and keep a primatic glow (more so for hunters than the others)
I was kind of hoping we get ornaments from each of the vanguards: Warlocks get Ikora’s bond, Titans get Zavala’s mark, and Hunters get Cayde’s cloak (or Crow’s, now)
It’s an exotic though, it ruins pvp balancing if you have no idea they’re running a class item. Also, it looks pretty cool
@@DreyfusLagoon thats why i said to keep the primatic glow. Or make it more noticable
@@DreyfusLagoon without like 50 completely different themed ornaments. For hunters. Im not gonna be happy as someone who takes th vfashion seriously
@@ghostlyrazgriz5228 I take the fashion seriously too but exotics have always been an issue for fashion, you just have to mold your fashion around the cloak
The dual destiny mission isn’t the problem. It’s that it’s the only way to get the exotic class item. All other exotic armor is acquirable solo. All other exotic missions are doable solo.
The coop mission(it rotates which one) gives a pinnicle red border each week.
I think Zavala’s arc was great. For a very long time his devotion to the traveler was basically wavering, and he was basically at his breaking point even the witness finally got to him.
GOATS ARE BACK
I also love the solo instance. Every other destination has people, if I wanna have blueberries ruin my heroic events or whatever I can just go to one of those
I just don't understand why everyone is gushing over this expansion.
Was is bad? No, we've definitely had a lot worse. But it's nowhere near Forsaken.
Can it get there? Of course. We haven't even really scratched the surface of this one yet.
Plus this story was almost all worthless. There wasn't any real in depth character development. We finally got a explanation to the Witness's origin. Ok, so if it wasn't going to be a in depth story like WitchQueen, then was it at least entertaining like Forsaken? No on both parts. So other than the Witness origin backstory, the campaign was nothing but time wasting filler, at challenging difficulties (at times) for us to earn power leveling gear, and a new exotic item. It's almost like the Red War campaign all over again. (All the good story parts are in the after campaign content)
As far as the Pale Heart (open world experience) I'm torn. Having the "open world" be solo (outside of matchmaking in Overgrowth) is boring. But it does allow you to do puzzles and pathfinder challenges without it not being unavailable because someone else did it.
Lastly the big push in content and rewards to be done/earned through team play, after the biggest content drought, and biggest playerbase fall off just seems ridiculous, and a clear sign on how out of touch these devs continue to be with the playerbase.
I agree Forsaken is better. Without it the Final Shape doesn’t even exist
24:55 while Verity encounter is very interesting, I think I'm with Destin on this one. It's just numbnuts to memorize the looks and the ghost of your fireteam in order to succeed, it's basically LFG nightmare. Also the encounter didn't flow as better as Vault from Last Wish, especially 1 people doing everything for the outside team, and the inside team symbol is just a mess.
Completely with Paul on the Witness. Think the design is just a bit too silly
I was literally laughing when I saw him in the incision. He looks like a goofy theme park ride animatronic
I think it would have been perfect without a face
Ever since it was introduced, I kept wondering how the in game engine version was gonna look. The model in mission 7 turned out pretty good. But the raid/Excision big chungus Buddha version stuck in wavy hands animation loops just was everything I feared: funny looking and not an intimidating threat at all.
I am with Paul on this one , those PIXAR Eyes are a travesty. Bungie just struggles with a good track record of good designs. It is always either or. Someone in their team is given way more of leash than is acceptable.
Bungie cooked. My only complaint was with the enemy factions, I don't think the Fallen or Cabal should have been enemies in the Pale heart. With all of the moralizing of their species and factions in previous stories and seasons, it felt awkward having to fight them even if they were loosely justified in the story. But other than that the expansion slapped. I agree with you guys that the Witness was originally pretty lackluster but the Final Shape gave us a better story for him. Excision was one of the best moments in Destiny history. Watching the raid race and then jumping into that mission was surreal.
I mean I think Zavala’s arc makes pretty fine sense bc like while he had done some level of processing his issues the basis of Zavala’s faith and optimism was still a lie
a lie he could continue to believe until we got to know for certain the traveler is not a “god” just a once powerful and alien creature…
Bringing Cayde back actually probably did the opposite of reinforcing his faith too
The raid was amazing and i loved running it but god dam is that timer so close no time for mistakes in this raid its ruff
Because it should be said, Mclunky.
To be real though I am so happy to see y'all with Paul. I think the opinions are fairly reasonable and you guys don't overhype things. I fell off after my youngest daughter was born and I came back for Into the Light when Lightfall was on PSN and the catchup was great.
I just figured Zavala had the Witness in his head.
If Bungie doesn't sell analog clock merch, they're fools
I can’t get over Paul’s face… his eyebrows & tash make him look like one of the Angry Birds character 😅
Yes! I saw Travis review go up and was looking for this episode. Hope you guys keep coming back for a few more weeks to cover the seasonal episodes
The last 12 men activity trully shows why we need D3 - the engine was pushed to its limits even on a PS5 🔥
Dual Destiny....
Should have awarded a double perk item 1st run of the week. Solo players should have unlocked it via overthrow level 3 completions.
overthrow level 3 completions? where is the challenge, to easy.
You casuals haven’t have enough things spoon fed already?
Farming the pale heart for the class item is easy... I've already got 4 class items just from doing Micah-10 missions and overthrow.
I liked Cayde's send-off, but it didn't make me emotional. He was brought back in a dubious situation, so I didn't love his odds. Also, he'd been gone for years but was only back for 2 days (my playtime, not their time), so it's not like I got used to it.
My guesses once Targe was gone, were either that Cayde would act as Zavala's new ghost (still in his body) on a permanent-ish basis or that he'd do a one-time revival for Zavala in a similar manner to what he ended up doing for Ghost
Dang this was released 20 minutes ago. That means at the time I’m writing this nobody has watched this all the way through yet
Me 8 hrs after byf's complete story of destiny video dropped.
Amazing.
Holy crap... I cant believe we have a new episode!!! It's as if we are D1 agin...😮😮😮
Hard diasagree on failsafe. To go from the final shape writing back to vanilla D2 "every npc has a wacky gimmick" writing is so bad, it even infected saint-14 with cringe dialogue. Completely checked out on this season's story already
Got to love the mindset against solo players on Dual. I did it once. It was tolerable and pretty. Enjoyed it? Not even remotely
Great episode guys!
The raid is amazing
i work a fifo job and flew out the day it released 4 more day before i can jump in
35:39 hard disagree. No communication on locking a new class exotic behind forced team activity was dumb. My ability to team or not doesn’t matter and I see it both ways. Bungo should have been transparent. So much hype for a huge portion of the player base that’ll never get the exotic.
Bungie is pushing this hard now. Microcosm also demands communication. They’re dialing hard into trying to be an MMO. They just don’t get that a first person looter shooter can never be that
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 or just play with others. Its a sub 15 minute activity. Stop crying
If I could ask Bungie anything it would be what was worked on in the extra 4 months of development and is an 18 month dev cycle enough time to make new experiences like the final shape?
You know WE don’t think a lot of IGN
The Final Shape is a massive W. I'd probably give it a 9.5/10
I do wonder where Elsie Bray was during the campaign though. Maybe I've missed a story beat or two and there is a good reason why she wasn't present, but I kinda thought that she would be a natural piece of the ensemble
And yes, the "episode" being exactly the same as a season (at least in act 1) caught me by surprise. I expected some similarities, but this is pretty much a copy. We're supposed to get an exotic mission with "Echoes" at least. I am having really high hopes for this one, considering how amazing The Final Shape was. A Nessus Exotic Mission ( we already have a Vex Network exotic mission, so I'm betting my money on a Nessus EM) could be interesting. A good exotic mission is always a massive plus to the overall impression of a season/episode
"I'll do anything for that data..........anything!"
Bungie killed it. I was expecting another lackluster follow up after how bad lightfall was. Sure glad I was wrong. I haven't enjoyed destiny this much in a very long time. Hope they can keep it going
The only thing that really bothered me... I don't wanna say I don't like Zavala's new Voice because I usually like the Voice Actor in his other Roles ...BUT I'm just not feeling the new Voice right now. I went to the Tower on Earth just to hear the previous Voice Actor again. I'm sad he passed away and also didn't finish his Role for Zavala.
Of course yall would spoil the end of Duel Destiny's that Fallout chose to not spoil. Screw yall.
The Witness looks goofy AF. Big Pixar character bug eyes and a monobrow.....not exactly intimidating. He sounds cool at least lol.
Evil big eyed unibrow rabbit to me lol. He always struck me weird.
Counterpoint; Whilst many say this is a triumph, I have found the campaign tedious and a real slog so far. I'm not keen on the raid mechanics, and it's a real bottle neck neck for me to get to the rest of the game. BTW, playing solo, I know it's very easy in a team, but much harder solo. FYI I have over a thousand hours in D1+DS. Also, why do we have to rank up Rahool and Xur now? WTF?
Bungie wants to push becoming a real MMO now. Again for the 10,000th time. It will never work but they keep trying
If there's no matchmaking for gm excision it would be a good thing to use fireteam finder for. Probably won't use need to use communication if all that's new is Champs. 12 people talking at once would be a lot anyways
This is the game they want now. They are done with solo players. They want everything to have a raid like feel. It’s basically “get some social skills or get on down the road”
BUNGIE QUESTION. Will we every beable to access old battle passes. Or what we didnt unlock.
I comment this on their stuff a lot. Maybe they could resell old 1s for $10 and let people who own the expansions access them. Win win
And a big thank you. For 10 years of fun. Through the good times and bad times. Ive had years of fun thanks to all their work. In celebration. Im gonna buy some Silver. Win win. Guardian out
idk guys, but where are the nine, eris and all others on the end of an 10y saga? why kvosthov and red death from d1 recycled. why was the witness so weak but can destroy worlds? i missed that completely here and in so many other vids. no offense TFS is worth it, but not the best DLC ever. no way. not many answers too. now, another "darkness", ep2 the darkness army .... i mean, come on.
campaign was ‘short’
It was short. They padded out the length with forced lost sector runs, a strike and a heavy amount of unskippable dialogue
Opinions are like assholes
I still will always believe forsaken is still the best dlc it paved way for final shape .
So i have a few issues surrounding the dlc , its mainly around the around the power grind , prior to final shape launch bungie stated we want power to matter , yet in final shape we are now capped at 5 under for almost every activity , so whats really the point of the power grind anymore ?.
2nd gripe is surges now added to every dungeon and raid everyone has been massivly negitive towards the change as now everyone is forced to use certain weapons each week otherwise u loose out on big damage , thats not build variety , its also gonna make endgame very boring eventually and no one is gonna wanna bother with dungeons and raids till certain surges are active .
While i think the raid is good , i also see that the raid aint very new player and casual friendly , its litreally a lfg nightmare .
I wish for the campaign we had more interaction with the witness but u had to really wait till final mission to face him , i would of loved the witness to show up more during the campaign in person as hinderence .
Overall the final shape dlc is a 8 put of 10 and is 2nd to forsaken dlc .
I think it gets better after the campaign ends. All the end game stuff to do is arguably more fun than the campaign missions.
This Expansion?.. Wow. 😆
Tha mere fact that y'all stop'd this channel... & came back, should've displayed it.
Prismatic isn't tha best class, as we all thought.. it just Works, with tha other classes. It allows us to do things we couldn't before, while in actuality.. that is ALL it does. It doesn't have it's own Super, it just allows us to mix some of our fav moves together. .. Personally, I still main my Nightstalker & Gunslinger setups while still have'n fun with Pris 🤷🏾♂️
I dig what y'all say'n tho. .. don't get my start twisted, it's just funny to see this channel back on after I even forgot I followed it & you DO have negative criticisms lol
BUT.. that IS tha nature of podcasts.
Keep it up, Fellas 💪🏾
Guardian, Out.
They need to add a craftable version of the class item. The farms atm are awful and after doing overthrow a million times between khovostov and the class item quest farm I don’t see myself doing that very often
Honestly believe these people are on the taje from bungie. They graded a campaign that when done leaves NOTHING left.
Fireteam chat is back?!?! 😮
I've been waiting like a good boy.
Sup my fellow Guardians. Guardian in...
It's been one hell of a ride! 10 years of ups and downs but in the end imo, Bungie knocked it out of the park! Can't wait to see where our next adventures take us!
I just hope this isnt a OVER-DELIVERY to win us back. To under-deliver for 2 years. Like they say in that 1 vid
If we’re being completely real, they could’ve over delivered if they really wanted to. I don’t think that’s what Final Shape was. Content wise it still isn’t too far ahead of the last three to four expansions. Forsaken still had an absurd amount of exotics, guns, armor, a whole extra destination and game mode, etc.
I’m not trying to compare, I love final shape, but I lowkey still want that from another Destiny expansion and I thought maybe we’d get that.
U don’t have to read all that
15:43 you have to remember, though, they are expecting a lot of people who haven’t played Destiny in a long time to come back for this, as well as new players. So they really didn’t have a choice, but to make the first mission or two slow, so that new people could get up to speed with the way things work.
The seasonal activity is kinda not great. I’d much rather play Onslaught. Several of the new weapons are cool. I’m also a solo player so I’m not extremely happy about the direction they are heading. Can’t use headsets because of hearing issues. Hopefully there will be other ways to unlock chances at getting exotic class item drops.
The LFG requirements is why I've only ever done like 3 raids in the entirety of Destiny's existence. It's also why I'll likely never get to do the new duality mission. I'm forced to live on a laptop and play in public spaces, so I effectively can't do voice. Because of that pretty much no one will take me on a raid, and those who do require I have done the raid, soooo catch 22 there.
The lore about Crow wishing Cayde back came out 5 months before that ship did so the lore about that was already known also on the raid race stuff I feel like if you are part of twitch rivals you should have to show your screen just a massive turn off for new players or people watching
Halo 2 is the perfect 10.
I wonder if the GM excision will reward the exotic class items with maybe double the perks?
Might lessen the grind a bit
Great crew, glad Paul Tassi came back for this one
No way this is a 10. These people are biased as hell. Its a cookie cutter identical to the last 4 years.
Calling Paul Tassi out....
You are a journalist and you should report fairly. Why have you not said 1 thing about Bubgie lying to everyone on seasonal model??? On video they said they were redefining the seasonal model to deliver better content less often. So why in all hell is echoes season 24? Same fetch quest, same 3 man event, same radio message, same text based dialog, same armor, same fetch and display your items.
This is 100% the exact same damn model that's been used for years now. So when will someone call this bs out? It's a bold faced lie to everyone.
Lets also add in total removal of bounties and bright dust farming again pushing people to real money buy items. Man if you ignore this glaringly obvious lie and scam I lose 100% respect and trust of anything you publish/release.
The goats have uploaded 🐐🐐‼️
Zavala reverts because he lost his light and wielding darkness doesn’t need a ghost. He had no choice if he wanted to fight.
I loved it so much I uninstalled the game for the first time since 2014. Adios Destiny and Bungie.
I mean there is No real reason to keep playing post campaign it’s drip fed stuff for the addicts
FYI, a Micha-10 mission dialog strongly suggests Nightmare will be a new darkness power. I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the new coverage.
I don't like these extremely mechanic heavy raids. I want more of a balance.
The story was good, by destiny standards, but good. As a whole package, it's great. It's not a 10, though. I think compared to lightfall sure, but I try not to set my expectations at garbage. In a vacuum it was an 8 or even a 9 maybe
I was highly satisfied with this experience
Too little, too late Bungie.
I 100% agree I thought zavala had got over the ghost of his past. The fact that he folded was a bit of a eye roll but I get the modern media landscape, strong men are out. I still don't like Crow but I'm so glad they gave him a haircut there's no way I was going to follow someone with that Karen hairstyle.
I am a single player and IMO the Exotic class item should be able to get solo .
Paul is anti patrol confirmed
Yeah. Then they released the episode. Yikes.
36:34 I think a lot of people are calling the first room where you have like you know 3/4 of the clock as one through nine counterclockwise left or right, but if you are doing the actual full clock counterclockwise, you’re a weirdo
Yeah cause in the next room you need to do clockwise anyway
Eyes up guardians 😎
What I want is a legendary ver of pale heart. Same with any travel destination, it let's you pick standard when dropping in, let me also pick legendary :)
I hated it, and I have played every expansion. It's a 6/10 for me.
Pc players will love destiny, of course they will. But solo players who Have to rely on lfg are stuffed, so listening to you all is so fake. Pc players have ruined destiny because bungie only cater for pc players
imo, destiny needs to only release expansions every 2 years. PERIOD! put in a lot work, create awesome ideas and polish it. Lightfall was a disaster, so was Shadowkeep.
Na Lightfall wasn't a disaster at all. It had a weak story, but it had a tonne of positive gameplay evolutions and QoL changes etc. it also introduced strand which has been a fantastic subclass.
@@sammyflinders this is what I cant make people understand... people keep comparing WQ was so good and lightfall was such a disaster.. But if you compare WQ and lightfall year.. lightfall seasons were Miles ahead of WQ seasons, compare season of plunder vs season of witch for example... yes lightfall story was hot garbage while witch queen was probably the best we've got, I agree... but destination, art, music, subclass the year round story.. lightfall was toe to toe with WQ and sometimes miles ahead of wq.
@@gamer94339 agreed mate. But always remember you have a tonne of consensus followers who don't do much critical thinking for themselves.
Not a huge fan of Prismatic but, whatever.
Takes too long to unlock dual destiny