Yeah, this was 5 years before his passing. I admire his honesty and carelessness towards "fixing" the World. We don't have to fix the World, because the World is fixing us.
He aged very rapidly in those 5 years didn't he? He looked quite young even in his mid 70's , you'd think he's in mid 50's but for whatever reasons he aged extremely fast during his final years @@waedjradi
When he says no one can help you he is right and only myself from Kenya wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh beautiful beautiful beautiful he is best his words are wisdom wise thank you millions everything is freedom and that is you from Kenya wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh blessings
Millions and millions of thoughts out there, (sciences, religions, philosophy, history culture, technology, maths and logic, health and fitness) What is the relevance of all these after you die? No matter what you knew, or where, it means nothing to anybody. When we die nobody bothers to spare a thought about us for above a minute or so!! a brief tear or emotion is all. Dust to Dust. Thoughts are just that fantasy. Take our present energy source away and there may be no record of these "great thoughts!!!" Existed once upon a time. All forms.
UG Krishnamurti is a very great spiritual teacher while the interviewer did not really follow up of his ideas. UG's whole body language conveys that he is rather bothered about the messages he received in this interview, while this great man has all the answers I believe. It makes me sad for this interview could be so much more influential in the world.
UG says only thing worthwhile is eating and having sex, which is what most people do anyway. But UG surrounded himself with upper middle class people who had plenty of both and still felt miserable. Fear of death seems to have haunted him as well. Body has no death is an absurd statement of UG. At least, theists and materialists accept the fact that the body is temporary and perishes.
Luke O'Shaughnessy that sort of interaction always comes up in these Q&A. The reason is he denies the usefulness of language to describe reality. When he says something and you agree, then he has to say no. It is impossible to agree or to disagree with UG within his frame.
UG was doing exactly what he was criticising others for. He had valuable things to say but he was also imposing his views. Question for me is "why did UG travel all over the world and gave is lectures if he didn't want to influence people?"
he obviously said several times which your diumbass didnt hear but he said several times he got freed from the strangle hold of thought and then his body started to function naturaly...and due to his background of J..K and theosphical and psychological etc...people CAME to see him and not the other way around , he just kept traveling because he didnt want people to stick too close to him...besides he didnt travel around globe saying he can make it to happen to others, he was just pointing out the absurdity of teachings of these so called saviours and sages of mankind
UG didn't give any lectures on any platform. People just came to him and asked questions and he just responded. There is no book written by UG, all books that are written are just recorded conversations with him by people who got them published.
@@kislayabahuguna Absolutely not true, he did write two books of diary entries around the end of the 70's... stop acting like you know when that book is not even hidden when you look just 5 minutes on amazon you'll find it... blinded by your belief that you know better.
I am really interested to know what the curent saints, sages, gurus, sadhgurus, Satgurus, metaphysicist and all the Vedantic scholars think and say about UG. I studied most philosophies and finally anchored on advaita vedanta but after listening to UG, it feels like I'm back to square one. I wish he was alive today, it would be interesting to have him on the debate panel with all the spiritual and religious scholars.
What makes U.G. much more significant than the others is; he got right to the point, unlike the others... a ton of his followers and many of his interviewers reached out to him. He did not think what he was saying is a big deal and he was right, it's actually not that important. That's why the quote 'Before enlightenment; chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood and carry water.' exists as a quote. It's not a big deal.
Once you accept thought/language is a fabrication, which creates values, beliefs, all knowledge, that underpins everything we think is valid and true, then that is the end of the conversation. To continue the conversation is in opposition to the initial acceptance. And of course, the conventional response is to maintain the conversation in order to continue the narrative. It is impossible to accept any other possibility. That is the bind. It is good to undermine all pre-conceived ideas if you are truth seeking, even if there is in the end no ultimate, or absolute truth.
All great and wise and relentlessly on the spot with deconstructing reality. Leaving us with not even the concept of Nothing. ....and yet...lets get to the very practicality of this body-mind, which he praises as super intelligent and knowing how to survive without any need for knowledge passed by anyone to us.....Lets be super Real like He is....what is his material sircumstance. He confessed at the very end of this interview. HE WAS BORN RICH. So, what is left for the lest of 95% of humanity, who were not born rich and would like to leave it up to the intelligence of the body only to survive and get out of the sustem of thought this culture and the job market has created. We remain permanet slaves to the system of thought, is that it. And then what, we just need to get to turms with that situation....And he goes about his life from interview to interview, supported by rich divotees enjoyed his physical existence till his last breathe. ... So the result of the story is what...One is born Rich and one Not, though luck. Live in mysery, die in myserty.
What happened to the video of U. G. Krishnamurti asking doctors for help with his heart. He offers all of his money ($300,000.00) to anyone who can fix his heart. But the doctors say they are not interested in his money. This video is gone.
A message to the host if you want to have a personal conversation please do it privately else allow him to speak don't try to conclude always. Its so annoying.
UG sounds interesting. But, one thing he always talk about is nature. But, who governs this nature? Why it is so precise? Why is their so much order in this Universe?
but why do u interested in that who governs this nature? The question it self is not a valid question, which is born out of the answer u already have ( knowledge ).
+Garry Sharma Don't u think dancer is the dance? thought creates the division between u, the god , nature and so on... isn't everything is one single unit? so there's no room for question at all... thought itself is divisive in nature.
+Lavi Sangha youre still separating single/many ...the actual description of what seems to be happining cannot be put into the symbolism of words goodbye and good day..
I too am....when u see bullshit around u....24 hrs a day... Even a second is enough to distract/influence u...and u have to be constantly on guard or mindfulness to counter that.... which is not the natural state
UG says nothing of value. He cultivated notoriety in controversy. I do not find the acceptance of genocide & oppression amusing. The only significant thing stated was the comparative treatment of indigenous Americans & Jews by the Nazis.
The comparison of potatoes n smoking cigarette is not correct. The problem is with you mix nicotine with MAOI present in tabacco that greatly reinforces the nicotine's effects. + Potatoes n tomatoes have a very less amount of nicotine. Nicotine alone is not dangerous.
Sorry a but some confusion, it is a comparison ,,, such philosophical, thinking of man when going wrong that is not all rghts ! -god beless him and her
It seems to me that people listen to this guy, not because he is a skeptic, but because he is indian and a skeptic. Am I misunderstanding something? He is not saying anything that we've havent heard before, at least in the west. He even seems dumbfounded why people listen to him.
if he denies everything and not interested in telling ppl what to do then what is the meaning of giving interviews/opinions? I don't feel him much here.
Theosophists wanted JK to be their new prophet, which he wisely rejected. UG says he rejected and dropped Theosophists. But UG spends most time bemoaning them and other Gurus.
26:34 "No, you don't even need to jump out of the window [to commit suicide.]... What does it prove if you jump out of the window? It is not your body [anyway.]" U.G. means you can do whatever you want to "prove" to yourself, god, or anything else and nothing still will not matter. The Universe does not care. 26:54 "This is the one [the human anatomy] that is immortal. Because it is maintaining the continuity of millions and millions of living organisms. That's all that Nature is interested in." Nature does not care about your skin color, your politics, your gods, your favorite t shirt, your name, what you have gone through. It does not care. All it cares for is the biological properties and it's enhancements through this vast ecology. 27:15 "Believe? Believe is a wrong word... No, you see why I'm certain that is; There is only a belief and there is no believer."
"Body is intelligent it will take care of itself and we don't need to take care of it".who is this we or I now.other than the body what is that exists?
Buddha is the biggest con- man ...allured souls in believing karma in a deluded way. This man has changed my way of thinking. FOREVER. There's is no personal "GOD" personal "reality" personal "universe" RIP UG🙏
UG says only thing worthwhile is eating and having sex, which is what most people do anyway. But UG surrounded himself with upper middle class people who had plenty of both and still felt miserable. Fear of death seems to have haunted him as well. Body has no death is an absurd statement of UG. At least, theists and materialists accept the fact that the body is temporary and perishes.
he said the "body" is only interested in that you idiot...and yeah he surrounded himself with such people unlike gurus who do the same whilst sucking your wallet dry claiming that they are going to save the world ... well we dont experience our birth so it makes sense we cannot experience death either and body is not temporary but what you call you is temporary is what he said
this man is not spiritual at all. he says the only reason we have spiritual experiences is because we wish it to happen because of hearing it from other people. i had a wakeful state experience before i even believed in the soul not to mention out of body experiences as a child and no one was telling me any of this was possible so how could i have imagined or wished it upon myself when i had not thought about it prior. he eats glue and sawdust and seems to hold humanity in contempt with his crazy and empty philosophy. seriously i don't know how he has the will to live this long with such a depressing and morbid ideology. and in the end i he had no real answers to give besides there is no reality and we are nothing. *shiver*
It is depressing and morbid to you because you cannot imgaine that being reality. That is your projection. You experincing a "wakeful state" is nothing more than what happens when we accumulate experience. It's just a normal function of the brain and mind as our awareness grows and it happens to everyone at various points of their life. That is not a spiritual experience. Having an "OBE" is also not a spiritual experience, it's a neurological phenomenon. Those are basic, common experiences. UG is talking about people who spend their whole lives chasing after enlightenment and one day believe that they have become so. All that knowledge creates the experience of "enlightenment" in exactly the same way as a Reborn Christian is filled with the "holy spirit". They know all about the holy spirit and they know all about what the experience will be like because they hvae read about it and watched other go through it and describe it for years and years. And UG isn't saying that there is no reality and that we are nothing. In fact,he says that the reality that we live in is the ONLY reality. All of that "I experienced a wakeful state" and "I left my body" are not reality, but a superimposition of ideas onto experiences generated by the mind itself.
bchase8788 take it easy frind.. the soul reviles itself to thous how are ready. and the will to live is the beast within. no thought of the mind can be stronger.
He is a Failed yoga student....just ask his fake swami who became a nihilist...He has pyschologicaly lazy questions, nothing & doubt in what remains of his mind.
so a stimulating question is still evidence of the divisive mind? Constant quest of stimulation is merely a reaction to the interaction with one's environment. Are you a slave or master of mind? Even that question has its answer within you.
This guy knew nothing. No one came to see him. Only a loser movie director called Mahwsh Bhatt. No one really knew him in india. Both the Krishnamurtis needed to check their ego. That stopped them from being enlighteded
@@jonashjerpe7421 Certain spiritual thought in India means the greater number of people who come to see you the more great you are. MacDonalds logic. It gives rise to fakers on golden thrones and hugging saints who get into bed with land developers and beat their attendants. Honest spiritual attainment is lost in glitz and wide smiles of love.(and not to mention what goes on in the sanga...) That's what the people want. A Lao Tze or Bodhidarma or UG? No. People don't want them. There's not enough loving gazes...
"i told them you can live on sawdust and glue. they asked why glue. I said to add some flavour to the sawdust."
Lmao. UG's humour is funny
21:58 "Thoughts don't exist, there. It is only noise that is there. Sound that is there. Nothing else is there!"
We can see humbleness and tremendous honesty in his face nd flow of words...tears are comming in my eyes while seeing his talkings ❤❤❤
Yeah, this was 5 years before his passing. I admire his honesty and carelessness towards "fixing" the World. We don't have to fix the World, because the World is fixing us.
He aged very rapidly in those 5 years didn't he? He looked quite young even in his mid 70's , you'd think he's in mid 50's but for whatever reasons he aged extremely fast during his final years @@waedjradi
Conversing with UG is like fighting with an empty jacket.
What a way of thinking , what a way of intelligence , what a man with great insights , talented UG , WOW .
Enlightened
@@nivritti99 there is nothing to be enlightened!! If you follow his speech enlightenment is just hoax
When he says no one can help you he is right and only myself from Kenya wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh beautiful beautiful beautiful he is best his words are wisdom wise thank you millions everything is freedom and that is you from Kenya wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh blessings
We are just a product of this value system. RIP UG
I feel ashamed to be a part of the Indian value system
"And I cannot be of help to anybody, because you don't need any help."
We are all lost and need all the help that we can get.......................falun dafa
@@jeffforsythe9514if you say so
Millions and millions of thoughts out there, (sciences, religions, philosophy, history culture, technology, maths and logic, health and fitness) What is the relevance of all these after you die? No matter what you knew, or where, it means nothing to anybody.
When we die nobody bothers to spare a thought about us for above a minute or so!! a brief tear or emotion is all. Dust to Dust. Thoughts are just that fantasy. Take our present energy source away and there may be no record of these "great thoughts!!!" Existed once upon a time. All forms.
UG Krishnamurti is a very great spiritual teacher while the interviewer did not really follow up of his ideas.
UG's whole body language conveys that he is rather bothered about the messages he received in this interview, while this great man has all the answers I believe.
It makes me sad for this interview could be so much more influential in the world.
Peter Fritz Walter the interviewer was a tool
UG says only thing worthwhile is eating and having sex, which is what most people do anyway. But UG surrounded himself with upper middle class people who had plenty of both and still felt miserable. Fear of death seems to have haunted him as well. Body has no death is an absurd statement of UG. At least, theists and materialists accept the fact that the body is temporary and perishes.
so funny how he debunks every belief of that guy and then even the belief that he's a debunker gets debunked. thats a skill that can't be taught
Luke O'Shaughnessy that sort of interaction always comes up in these Q&A. The reason is he denies the usefulness of language to describe reality. When he says something and you agree, then he has to say no. It is impossible to agree or to disagree with UG within his frame.
Ironically, the only way to do that is not to be taught lol
Rest In Peace, Luc Sala. Excellent writer and interviewer. Thanks!
What I get from GK is that I’m okay just as I am ! And that there’s nothing in me to change!
Why you need UG to confirm that you are OK?
“To be free, from the need to be free”
UGK
“Aspire To get freedom, from the need to be free”
UK
Interesting video , thank you .
brilliant as usual....like he says we are not ready to be responsible
Bang!!! Awesomeness. Thank u for sharing.
UA-cam Jiddu Krishnamurti talks at the united nations New York 1985 . GREAT speech
He's the best
Bless you for your wisdom.
Thank you.
UG was doing exactly what he was criticising others for. He had valuable things to say but he was also imposing his views. Question for me is "why did UG travel all over the world and gave is lectures if he didn't want to influence people?"
he obviously said several times which your diumbass didnt hear but he said several times he got freed from the strangle hold of thought and then his body started to function naturaly...and due to his background of J..K and theosphical and psychological etc...people CAME to see him and not the other way around , he just kept traveling because he didnt want people to stick too close to him...besides he didnt travel around globe saying he can make it to happen to others, he was just pointing out the absurdity of teachings of these so called saviours and sages of mankind
Because he was also a machine like everybody else ...and kept repeating what he knew
UG didn't give any lectures on any platform. People just came to him and asked questions and he just responded. There is no book written by UG, all books that are written are just recorded conversations with him by people who got them published.
@@kislayabahuguna Absolutely not true, he did write two books of diary entries around the end of the 70's... stop acting like you know when that book is not even hidden when you look just 5 minutes on amazon you'll find it... blinded by your belief that you know better.
He didn't want to attach to anybody that's why
God bless after many yearsa to see the truth of wisdom
Alone we come alone we go nature universe gifts is doing everything thank you
this is the real for country
Interviewer: "cogito er go sum"
UG: "If you don't think, what the hell are you?"
😂
UG is amazing, this interviewer is so tedious and repeatedly misses the point
We are not so intelligent as UG , empathy please .
Why judge the interviewer?
@@halwarner3326 why ask why?! ;P
I like the interviewer, he's funny and relaxed.
Luc Sala was a close friend of UG...it was recorded as a conversation between friedns rather than an interview.
I am really interested to know what the curent saints, sages, gurus, sadhgurus, Satgurus, metaphysicist and all the Vedantic scholars think and say about UG. I studied most philosophies and finally anchored on advaita vedanta but after listening to UG, it feels like I'm back to square one. I wish he was alive today, it would be interesting to have him on the debate panel with all the spiritual and religious scholars.
Yes,I too feel the same
What makes U.G. much more significant than the others is; he got right to the point, unlike the others... a ton of his followers and many of his interviewers reached out to him. He did not think what he was saying is a big deal and he was right, it's actually not that important. That's why the quote 'Before enlightenment; chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood and carry water.' exists as a quote. It's not a big deal.
Once you accept thought/language is a fabrication, which creates values, beliefs, all knowledge, that underpins everything we think is valid and true, then that is the end of the conversation. To continue the conversation is in opposition to the initial acceptance. And of course, the conventional response is to maintain the conversation in order to continue the narrative. It is impossible to accept any other possibility. That is the bind. It is good to undermine all pre-conceived ideas if you are truth seeking, even if there is in the end no ultimate, or absolute truth.
After enlightenment we still continue speaking. Silence is not better than speaking.
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@Sage Tabor And so, now you are intellectually convinced of his valid line of reasoning?
hats off
All great and wise and relentlessly on the spot with deconstructing reality. Leaving us with not even the concept of Nothing. ....and yet...lets get to the very practicality of this body-mind, which he praises as super intelligent and knowing how to survive without any need for knowledge passed by anyone to us.....Lets be super Real like He is....what is his material sircumstance. He confessed at the very end of this interview. HE WAS BORN RICH. So, what is left for the lest of 95% of humanity, who were not born rich and would like to leave it up to the intelligence of the body only to survive and get out of the sustem of thought this culture and the job market has created. We remain permanet slaves to the system of thought, is that it. And then what, we just need to get to turms with that situation....And he goes about his life from interview to interview, supported by rich divotees enjoyed his physical existence till his last breathe. ... So the result of the story is what...One is born Rich and one Not, though luck. Live in mysery, die in myserty.
What happened to the video of U. G. Krishnamurti asking doctors for help with his heart. He offers all of his money ($300,000.00) to anyone who can fix his heart. But the doctors say they are not interested in his money. This video is gone.
Ironically, UG would have been the best president ever.
First order as president: "All doctors are to be shot on sight and at sight."
First speech ‘dont follow me, im lost’
😂🤣 I agree. I guess that’s the paradox of society.
Kinda fits the philosopher-king idea in Plato’s Republic.
Mad man making all overthinkers go crazy
Calling UG's ideas 'a black hole' is still using a belief system to characterize it.
The reference to ideas is still...
Good command over English
The food depend on the food you are use to.. it’s neither organic or anything else
Education is time stealing and shaping thoughts
A message to the host if you want to have a personal conversation please do it privately else allow him to speak don't try to conclude always. Its so annoying.
He barely speaks, what are you talking about...
he is the 2 person iam 1 ithink he was the the real for earth
Bittu gym who are you man ??
You are great fan of ug 😎
He really reminds of Yoda in this video 😂
thank for good
UG sounds interesting. But, one thing he always talk about is nature. But, who governs this nature? Why it is so precise? Why is their so much order in this Universe?
but why do u interested in that who governs this nature? The question it self is not a valid question, which is born out of the answer u already have ( knowledge ).
+Garry Sharma Don't u think dancer is the dance? thought creates the division between u, the god , nature and so on... isn't everything is one single unit? so there's no room for question at all... thought itself is divisive in nature.
+Lavi Sangha youre still separating single/many ...the actual description of what seems to be happining cannot be put into the symbolism of words goodbye and good day..
But what is nature. Where do you draw the line between this is nature & that isn't ?
@@GauravSharma-nf5cz How sweet!
Controversial argument solved
That's why we know that Evil Exists...
wow
Leave the world as it is natural body as. It is natural universe gifts
Excellent comparison-black hole
Award's winning answers hidden secrets journey honour thanks
🙏👏
Happy thoughts... Karma means an action which is not a reaction..
UGK is repeating a portion of what Krishna said about Karma.
@@vasukinagabhushan who did Krishna learn from?
what if he just joined the dark side of the force? :D
What about the dark side of the ass?
@Sage Tabor Or the big bang?
He sounds very angry
I too am....when u see bullshit around u....24 hrs a day...
Even a second is enough to distract/influence u...and u have to be constantly on guard or mindfulness to counter that.... which is not the natural state
UG says nothing of value. He cultivated notoriety in controversy. I do not find the acceptance of genocide & oppression amusing. The only significant thing stated was the comparative treatment of indigenous Americans & Jews by the Nazis.
yeah well he said himself nothing can be fitted into the value system and thats what we are trying to do when we listen to him or others
Full of contradictions this man . his thought entertainer for sure
Full of contradictions your value system. He uses language to show that language for anything other than *convention* is absurd.
The comparison of potatoes n smoking cigarette is not correct. The problem is with you mix nicotine with MAOI present in tabacco that greatly reinforces the nicotine's effects.
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Potatoes n tomatoes have a very less amount of nicotine. Nicotine alone is not dangerous.
Sorry a but some confusion, it is a comparison ,,, such philosophical, thinking of man when going wrong that is not all rghts ! -god beless him and her
It seems to me that people listen to this guy, not because he is a skeptic, but because he is indian and a skeptic. Am I misunderstanding something? He is not saying anything that we've havent heard before, at least in the west. He even seems dumbfounded why people listen to him.
Because what he says operates in his life , and whatever nonsense you heard in west was from people who did not follow it in their own lives
UG peddled himself being Non-Guru Guru .
k widows rajneesh widows......hahaaaaaa
32:02
lol.
if he denies everything and not interested in telling ppl what to do then what is the meaning of giving interviews/opinions? I don't feel him much here.
many times in the interview he criticised other people for teaching/spreading opinions but he is doing exactly the same here, isn't it sound foolish?
What's scary is that he is exactly what the theosophical Society wanted him to be as part of there plan
Always thought this about him
Theosophists wanted JK to be their new prophet, which he wisely rejected. UG says he rejected and dropped Theosophists. But UG spends most time bemoaning them and other Gurus.
@@vasukinagabhushan name one guru that has said what u.g is saying
All that he says indirectly is life in the absolute present moment without thoughts, emotions, and sensory inputs. There is believes no believer
Cristal clear..( thoughts..)
i tthink he has 1 message, chill
Big Bang
And Big Chill
26:34 "No, you don't even need to jump out of the window [to commit suicide.]... What does it prove if you jump out of the window? It is not your body [anyway.]"
U.G. means you can do whatever you want to "prove" to yourself, god, or anything else and nothing still will not matter. The Universe does not care.
26:54 "This is the one [the human anatomy] that is immortal. Because it is maintaining the continuity of millions and millions of living organisms. That's all that Nature is interested in."
Nature does not care about your skin color, your politics, your gods, your favorite t shirt, your name, what you have gone through. It does not care. All it cares for is the biological properties and it's enhancements through this vast ecology.
27:15 "Believe? Believe is a wrong word... No, you see why I'm certain that is; There is only a belief and there is no believer."
If you take away th from the word thought what you get is OUG.
Has the whole world gone CRAZY?!? Am I the only one around here that cares? Mark it zero Smokey.
"Body is intelligent it will take care of itself and we don't need to take care of it".who is this we or I now.other than the body what is that exists?
9:45
39:00 quite strange
o my freaking god !! let him talk without poking your butt
24:10
XD
Why is he talking, if really believed what he is talking?
So everyone is a fraud? Except him of course BECAUSE he’s the ONLY ONE in the entire history not to try and push any beliefs?
yes, he is indeed
Buddha is the biggest con- man ...allured souls in believing karma in a deluded way.
This man has changed my way of thinking. FOREVER.
There's is no personal "GOD"
personal "reality" personal "universe"
RIP UG🙏
UG says only thing worthwhile is eating and having sex, which is what most people do anyway. But UG surrounded himself with upper middle class people who had plenty of both and still felt miserable. Fear of death seems to have haunted him as well. Body has no death is an absurd statement of UG. At least, theists and materialists accept the fact that the body is temporary and perishes.
he said the "body" is only interested in that you idiot...and yeah he surrounded himself with such people unlike gurus who do the same whilst sucking your wallet dry claiming that they are going to save the world ... well we dont experience our birth so it makes sense we cannot experience death either and body is not temporary but what you call you is temporary is what he said
UG should ask himself WHO is the one who is FREE...?
+Christian Anders/Lanoo - DAS BUCH DES LICHTS He would say no one.
funny game
31:02
43:25
So the Best Nirvana would be get rid of Nirvana!
නිවණ් දකින්න තියන ආසාවෙන් නිදහස්වීම හොදම නිවණය්!
Sounds like nonsense.
Nothingness life
this man is not spiritual at all. he says the only reason we have spiritual experiences is because we wish it to happen because of hearing it from other people. i had a wakeful state experience before i even believed in the soul not to mention out of body experiences as a child and no one was telling me any of this was possible so how could i have imagined or wished it upon myself when i had not thought about it prior. he eats glue and sawdust and seems to hold humanity in contempt with his crazy and empty philosophy. seriously i don't know how he has the will to live this long with such a depressing and morbid ideology. and in the end i he had no real answers to give besides there is no reality and we are nothing. *shiver*
It is depressing and morbid to you because you cannot imgaine that being reality. That is your projection.
You experincing a "wakeful state" is nothing more than what happens when we accumulate experience. It's just a normal function of the brain and mind as our awareness grows and it happens to everyone at various points of their life. That is not a spiritual experience. Having an "OBE" is also not a spiritual experience, it's a neurological phenomenon.
Those are basic, common experiences.
UG is talking about people who spend their whole lives chasing after enlightenment and one day believe that they have become so. All that knowledge creates the experience of "enlightenment" in exactly the same way as a Reborn Christian is filled with the "holy spirit". They know all about the holy spirit and they know all about what the experience will be like because they hvae read about it and watched other go through it and describe it for years and years.
And UG isn't saying that there is no reality and that we are nothing. In fact,he says that the reality that we live in is the ONLY reality. All of that "I experienced a wakeful state" and "I left my body" are not reality, but a superimposition of ideas onto experiences generated by the mind itself.
bchase8788 take it easy frind.. the soul reviles itself to thous how are ready. and the will to live is the beast within. no thought of the mind can be stronger.
bhak sala
See also Taoism.
Old man has obviously lost his mind.
@Sage Tabor savage reply
Why ?
Mental projection you are doing
He is a Failed yoga student....just ask his fake swami who became a nihilist...He has pyschologicaly lazy questions, nothing & doubt in what remains of his mind.
so a stimulating question is still evidence of the divisive mind? Constant quest of stimulation is merely a reaction to the interaction with one's environment. Are you a slave or master of mind? Even that question has its answer within you.
What the fuck is a yoga?
This guy knew nothing. No one came to see him. Only a loser movie director called Mahwsh Bhatt. No one really knew him in india. Both the Krishnamurtis needed to check their ego. That stopped them from being enlighteded
J Krishnamurti was not enlightened? Can you expand on this insight of yours?
@@jonashjerpe7421 Certain spiritual thought in India means the greater number of people who come to see you the more great you are. MacDonalds logic. It gives rise to fakers on golden thrones and hugging saints who get into bed with land developers and beat their attendants.
Honest spiritual attainment is lost in glitz and wide smiles of love.(and not to mention what goes on in the sanga...) That's what the people want. A Lao Tze or Bodhidarma or UG? No. People don't want them. There's not enough loving gazes...
@@kopilit I agree. It is business as usual. This is really true all over the world, with a few rare exceptions here and there.
You are idiot
How do you know they were enlightened