CORRECTION: 12th Place Charles West’s was actually running 3 copys of bt13 magnamon and ONE copy of bt9 magnamonx. Had I not prioritized eating acorns over being a proper youtuber this wouldof been an interesting talking point for that section and im sorry.
Hoang here! Hoang and Zero are two different people you got that lore correct. Tyler, Dan, and I were all playing the same 50 card list on purpose since we have been labbing for a couple weeks together. Thanks for the shoutout!
Thing about the Numemon stuff is their top end (lv5+) is some of if not the most powerful in the game. Not only does it have access to the single best form of removal in Monzae X, it has access to Venus, which screws over a lot of decks, a Yellow lv6 digimon that evolves for effectively 1, and multiple ruin mode-ish effects. Blue flare, as an example of a deck that does the same thing with Ukkomon, does not serve that great of a meta threat due to being much, much more counterable. Numemon has tools for basically every matchup, and with Magnamon invalidating the existence of decks that would otherwise control Nume, the results show.
8th place here. Numemon is OP I was undefeated till round 8 with Hoang. It was a great time. I do have a video going over my list. I hope to see everyone at nationals. Thanks for making all the regional coverage Risu.
6th place here, idt you're going crazy in recognizing a lot of the names! We actually did meet at Nats after top cut, and there's a lot of recognizable people on this list 😅 Side note-i played against 3 imperial and 2 numemons and pillomon did come up a ton to stop a lot of plays. Monzae x to drop pillo and delete a partition stack or a stack with nume x in it solidified a couple of games for me.
I think the format will even out to something more diverse. Nume can still lose to vaccine, and vaccine has some adjustments it can make to "fix" their matchup. Martin Lee is a great example of making a deck work by thinking outside of the "big combo" a deck has, and focusing on different smaller plays that end in positive results.
So the reduce evo cost floodgate also affects the training cards. So it forces your opponent to pay full cost. Which is great into slowing down the climb for mirage and looga.
Carlos here! Cutemon was mainly for the mirage and looga matches. I really dislike kudamon because i find myself bot decking patamon a lot with it. I chose to go with another floodgate instead, and it secured one of my mirage matches for sure. Both of those decks hang in raising and play training cards hoping to make one big push. Cutemon helps mitigate that. The cutemon could definitely just be kuda to keep it simple though.
I would assume he stuns for a turn, swings for 2 checks on his turn. Then leaves out ace bait so if they don’t activate sec before they swing that he just aces and either dedigi or stripes out the armor/ aces.
@@Risu_ I mean you can have some great turn 1 set up and stuff. Ukko in raising mailbird (jamming) to play a tamer in hand. Then you can ace off the mailbird to zudo and have jamming. You can also push the ukko out. You can play a blazing memory boost as a follow up.
@@Risu_ I think it was a fun meta choice he made and succeeded with it. Though it’s probably slightly weak to the etemon + valk combo. I’m assuming numemon might have gotten him.
Hehe - happy it's Nume and MagnaX's turn to get the heat instead of Mirage this time =P . BIG BIG BIG Thank you Risu for your coverage as usual. We appreciate you so much for what you do for our digi community!
People complaining about numemon when magna is the entire reason numemon runs wild, being one of the only two decks with a pretty good matchup into magna (other being mirage.) Nume knew they didn't have to worry about crimson blaze, devas, etc because those cards are terrible against magna. Magna being so busted means if you wanna win, there are only 3 decks to play this format; magna, numemon, and mirage. Magna is the problem, it is obvious if you're not illiterate about the game.
I think Numemon just counters Magnamon like they didn't have to worry about Crimson Flare and they're faster, also Magnamon X is a Sec so I don't see it dropping price anytime soon
I mean… if you watch the video you see very clearly that majority of the lists that weren’t Numemon were still running MagnaX. They just lump Armor Vaccine into Vaccine rn for some reason. Likewise the Ulforce list also ran the card. MagnaX is more than just ok lmfao
Love your videos and appreciate everything you are doing. However, I think you have to play more of these decks cause some of the reasonings you are giving are completely wrong. For example, you cannot use Awakening on RapidX into MagnaX as RapidX is not an armor form in trait, can only work from the lv4s. Cutemons are vs the training boosts. A lot of people decreased the lv5 ratios to go straight to magnaX using the option. The megalo spark I assume is mainly used with angewomon ace to place on a magnax bc as soone as it passes to their turn, the 6k from WOMON and 8k from SPARK will just delete it and if they used an ace, it would possibily pass back the turn before their Start of turn.
Yea i caught my self on the lvl 5 thing, and messed up the armor trait thing first sure , but megalo i thought i at least alluded to the cross turn stacking, but failed to fully mention it, tldr things get lost when talking 100mph, that said i dooo keep forgetting about trainings
@@Risu_ You did, I was just pointing out its a good tech cause with all the memory gain, you can do something like play angeWOMON, if you are at 3 mem with at least a tk bt14, you keep turn and then recover gain memory and play the megalo to pass. I am testing a Kari build with more lingering cards to see if its something that just is great to clear board.
Lol no, numemon only did so well because it's one of the only two decks with a pretty good matchup into armor vaccine, if magna x weren't extreme aids and didn't warp the entire format around himself, limiting viable decks, numemon wouldn't run amok. Magna is still the problem and will continue to be
@@enigmaticheart666that can’t be true because it was one of the best decks last format. It came about as a counter attack to magna but the deck itself is a good with or without magna being around.
@@navi0760It's very good of course and it got better with ukko but it wasn't oppressive. We still saw plenty of variety in tops last format when Nume was also one of the best decks. I agree with the other user, the problem isn't Numemon. It's that the answers to Numemon are made much worse by the presence of Magna X and many more decks are kept out of the meta by Magna X as well.
They guaranteed 9 rounds regardless of undefeated players. We had 1 undefeated after 8 rounds, but they told us around Rounds 3 that we were playing 9 rounds
I am the 10th place Nume! The deck was amazing and the no floodgates was not an issue for the day at all. I didn't care when I got deathx'd. My two losses were to Silphy and the 3rd BF. The deck did what I wanted to do and the only change I would do is switch one rb nume for a bt14 nume, and then switch the Toko to a tsuno egg. Other than that I was extremely happy and just wish I could have gotten that last little push into top 8
![Digimon Card Game : Sukamon (Yellow) VS Numemon (Black) [BT-15]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2uvcsIOwcY4/mqdefault.jpg)
CORRECTION: 12th Place Charles West’s was actually running 3 copys of bt13 magnamon and ONE copy of bt9 magnamonx. Had I not prioritized eating acorns over being a proper youtuber this wouldof been an interesting talking point for that section and im sorry.
The site will be corrected
Hoang here! Hoang and Zero are two different people you got that lore correct. Tyler, Dan, and I were all playing the same 50 card list on purpose since we have been labbing for a couple weeks together. Thanks for the shoutout!
Now thats actually what a tcg “team” should be doing glad to see it pay off in dividends
Thing about the Numemon stuff is their top end (lv5+) is some of if not the most powerful in the game. Not only does it have access to the single best form of removal in Monzae X, it has access to Venus, which screws over a lot of decks, a Yellow lv6 digimon that evolves for effectively 1, and multiple ruin mode-ish effects.
Blue flare, as an example of a deck that does the same thing with Ukkomon, does not serve that great of a meta threat due to being much, much more counterable. Numemon has tools for basically every matchup, and with Magnamon invalidating the existence of decks that would otherwise control Nume, the results show.
I can’t disagree with these points, hopfully well see the meta diversify going forward
8th place here.
Numemon is OP I was undefeated till round 8 with Hoang. It was a great time.
I do have a video going over my list.
I hope to see everyone at nationals.
Thanks for making all the regional coverage Risu.
Please check out their video!
@@Risu_ thanks 🙏
I’ve had my invite. But this is my first Omni after 3 records of bubbling out.
Thanks for all you do!
Also, Alex and I worked on the list together and ran the exact same 50
Congratulations!
Guess i miss spoke(i knew this was your omni and not the invite), guess i got tripped up on the non purple base!! Either way grats on the omni
@@Risu_
6th place here, idt you're going crazy in recognizing a lot of the names! We actually did meet at Nats after top cut, and there's a lot of recognizable people on this list 😅
Side note-i played against 3 imperial and 2 numemons and pillomon did come up a ton to stop a lot of plays. Monzae x to drop pillo and delete a partition stack or a stack with nume x in it solidified a couple of games for me.
I love hearing about if a specific tech worked out for players its information that goes under rated in content
The goat for the info!
Weeee
I think the format will even out to something more diverse. Nume can still lose to vaccine, and vaccine has some adjustments it can make to "fix" their matchup.
Martin Lee is a great example of making a deck work by thinking outside of the "big combo" a deck has, and focusing on different smaller plays that end in positive results.
I am inclined to believe this as well!
So the reduce evo cost floodgate also affects the training cards. So it forces your opponent to pay full cost. Which is great into slowing down the climb for mirage and looga.
Always for get about trainings dang it
Carlos here! Cutemon was mainly for the mirage and looga matches. I really dislike kudamon because i find myself bot decking patamon a lot with it. I chose to go with another floodgate instead, and it secured one of my mirage matches for sure.
Both of those decks hang in raising and play training cards hoping to make one big push. Cutemon helps mitigate that.
The cutemon could definitely just be kuda to keep it simple though.
I alwayd always forget about trainings
I really wish we have a deck report on Wes' Blue Flare. How do you think he deals with magnamons x?
I would assume he stuns for a turn, swings for 2 checks on his turn. Then leaves out ace bait so if they don’t activate sec before they swing that he just aces and either dedigi or stripes out the armor/ aces.
@@Royicethepkmnmaster this is the main line id imagine
@@Risu_ I mean you can have some great turn 1 set up and stuff.
Ukko in raising mailbird (jamming) to play a tamer in hand. Then you can ace off the mailbird to zudo and have jamming. You can also push the ukko out. You can play a blazing memory boost as a follow up.
@@Royicethepkmnmaster oh yea the deck has plays for sure! Just thinking in context of “how to out magnax”
@@Risu_ I think it was a fun meta choice he made and succeeded with it. Though it’s probably slightly weak to the etemon + valk combo. I’m assuming numemon might have gotten him.
Hehe - happy it's Nume and MagnaX's turn to get the heat instead of Mirage this time =P . BIG BIG BIG Thank you Risu for your coverage as usual. We appreciate you so much for what you do for our digi community!
People complaining about numemon when magna is the entire reason numemon runs wild, being one of the only two decks with a pretty good matchup into magna (other being mirage.)
Nume knew they didn't have to worry about crimson blaze, devas, etc because those cards are terrible against magna. Magna being so busted means if you wanna win, there are only 3 decks to play this format; magna, numemon, and mirage.
Magna is the problem, it is obvious if you're not illiterate about the game.
Yea i tried to go over alot of these points in the beginning, but sometimes the memes take over
I agree, but I also think it is a two way street. Numemon is also shutting out decks that could crop up to fight magnaX.
@@masterlinktm that is a fair point
So Magnamon X is just ok. Now his price needs to go down... Also Ulforce is still worse Mirage. It just has Magna as a back up when things go wrong.
I think Numemon just counters Magnamon like they didn't have to worry about Crimson Flare and they're faster, also Magnamon X is a Sec so I don't see it dropping price anytime soon
Nope. Magna is super good, except when it’s against numemon
@@navi0760 also mirage is good against Magna.
I mean… if you watch the video you see very clearly that majority of the lists that weren’t Numemon were still running MagnaX. They just lump Armor Vaccine into Vaccine rn for some reason. Likewise the Ulforce list also ran the card. MagnaX is more than just ok lmfao
Banning Ukkomon seems a bit excessive doesnt it? Same thing about restricting it.
I think fundamentally, it is to early to call
@Risu_ Numemon is still a good deck in JP. But we will have bigger fish to fry next format.
Love your videos and appreciate everything you are doing. However, I think you have to play more of these decks cause some of the reasonings you are giving are completely wrong. For example, you cannot use Awakening on RapidX into MagnaX as RapidX is not an armor form in trait, can only work from the lv4s. Cutemons are vs the training boosts. A lot of people decreased the lv5 ratios to go straight to magnaX using the option. The megalo spark I assume is mainly used with angewomon ace to place on a magnax bc as soone as it passes to their turn, the 6k from WOMON and 8k from SPARK will just delete it and if they used an ace, it would possibily pass back the turn before their Start of turn.
Yea i caught my self on the lvl 5 thing, and messed up the armor trait thing first sure , but megalo i thought i at least alluded to the cross turn stacking, but failed to fully mention it, tldr things get lost when talking 100mph, that said i dooo keep forgetting about trainings
@@Risu_ You did, I was just pointing out its a good tech cause with all the memory gain, you can do something like play angeWOMON, if you are at 3 mem with at least a tk bt14, you keep turn and then recover gain memory and play the megalo to pass. I am testing a Kari build with more lingering cards to see if its something that just is great to clear board.
@@digiwatchtcg7625 if it works it can counter magna and nume
Maybe numemon was the “issue” all along
Lol no, numemon only did so well because it's one of the only two decks with a pretty good matchup into armor vaccine, if magna x weren't extreme aids and didn't warp the entire format around himself, limiting viable decks, numemon wouldn't run amok. Magna is still the problem and will continue to be
Lol!
@@enigmaticheart666that can’t be true because it was one of the best decks last format. It came about as a counter attack to magna but the deck itself is a good with or without magna being around.
@@navi0760It's very good of course and it got better with ukko but it wasn't oppressive. We still saw plenty of variety in tops last format when Nume was also one of the best decks. I agree with the other user, the problem isn't Numemon. It's that the answers to Numemon are made much worse by the presence of Magna X and many more decks are kept out of the meta by Magna X as well.
Numemom is a problem cuz it carries so hard lol.
Anyone can play that helmet deck.
This tournament for example 😂
Wait what round/rule change?
They guaranteed 9 rounds regardless of undefeated players. We had 1 undefeated after 8 rounds, but they told us around Rounds 3 that we were playing 9 rounds
@@LynxForte soooo you ended up only having 8?
@jkromes20 No we had to play the full 9.
@@Vyse505 im confused, what did they change? like what was it before?
@jkromes20 Usually you play until 1 undefeated. There was one in round 8 but they guaranteed a round 9 anyway
I am the 10th place Nume! The deck was amazing and the no floodgates was not an issue for the day at all. I didn't care when I got deathx'd. My two losses were to Silphy and the 3rd BF. The deck did what I wanted to do and the only change I would do is switch one rb nume for a bt14 nume, and then switch the Toko to a tsuno egg. Other than that I was extremely happy and just wish I could have gotten that last little push into top 8
Grats on toping!
Yeah ukko has to go. This is filth
Remember everyone, Red Hybrid is the problem! 🙄
Youre right bann aldamon