Fix Your Coleman Generator Not Putting Out Power
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In "Slippers VS. Uncle Andy Pt 1", another informative and funny how-to video, Taryl shows you some tricks and tips to try if your Coleman Generator is no longer putting out power. They also try to dodge Slippers before his feud with Uncle Andy begins! This one's a TWO-PART episode you WON'T wanna miss! And There's Your Dinner!!
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I was just about to cut this video because I thought it was just a joke but turns out to be VERY useful! Thanks for posting mates!
I tried flashing my wife cause she wasn't putting out anymore. Didn't work.
Did you try AC as well as DC?
I tried flashing, doesn't go well in public (got arrested)
Never does LOL
did u get the 'polarity' right? I askt my Dad what a woman does for hot flashes,
sed she should use a lower amperage fuse.
Ya need continuity , did ya check for continuity ? She probably has an open somewhere , ya gotta find the opening .
These guys are great and hilarious at the same time 🤣🤣🤣
Great video Taryl!!
I like this video on how to get the generator to put out. Any advice on how to get my girlfriend to do the same? Lol
I plugged an angle grinder into a generator that needed flashing . I rolled the grinding wheel on the floor [ switch on ] and the generator flashed, and the grinder spun up .
someone gave me the same generator but it had a bent valve and I got rid of it because I only new how to clean a carb at the time and I was only like 13
funny as usual.
I like this guy, i think he helps alot of people, i'm a tech myself and have my own business doing the same things and this guy is the best instructor on youtube.
Thank you Andrea! Glad to assist you in any of your lawn-mower-fixing needs.
Hello Andrea, I think it is cool you are into engines and what they work to make our
lives easier, specially gener8orz after a bad storm. It seems like we have a "Throw-
a-way society, stuff not made to last like it should. I find it a challenge and figure if it
has any kind of compression, it's worth a shot of being worked on. Take care!
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Solo vet here. I watch Taryl so I don't feel alone.
Actually, if you have no continuity through a winding, that would mean it’s open, not shorted. A short would show continuity between two sets of windings.
Taryl, I am 65 yrs old and have been working on mowers since I was 8. I have learned a lot from you. I can not believe you do not have more subscribers. you are great.
Hello Jerome,
Guys like Taryl, junior, Slippers and jerknstain Ron? are why I don't get cable, good
to great SMARTS and humor too!
Taryl, I was checking other Colmans, I saw one with two groups of wires, a black and
white wire for each group. the guy checked the continuity, he had continuity between the
black and white wires. I have a lot of respect for U and ur fearless crew and did not want
to see u trash a geny that could still be good,
A minor thing, but it would be a good idea if you use any of those piercing type test leads on those wires, is to cover those holes you made in the insulation with epoxy of some sort. Those holes will allow dirt or humidity and moisture to come inside, and start causing corrosion.
Information is wrong. The cover with outlets is wired differently. Yellow to yellow, white to black. Is the continuity. @TarylFixesAll
Taryl, the fact that there are no skinny ropes on the windings broken or signs of overheating
means it is most like a GOOD generator. The yellow wires are for the EXCITER which makes
the spinning part which is a spinning FIELD and it turns into a powerful magnet, so that means
U have to have good brushes. Colman uses a black AND white wire to connect to the ends of
the STATOR. If there was a SHORT, it would be evidenced by a darker coil color and burned ropes
or twine. Disclaimer, no racial unkindness is meant here. SO use ur meter on the black and
white wires and I am VERY SURE you will find you have a good generator.
Best Damn Repair Videos on UA-cam!!!
I'd be so pleased if you went between the blk an wht wires with the meter, u'd find u have a
good generator, I have seen these gens with 2 groups of wires a black and white per group.
the yellow wires are for the exciter circuit at goes to a capacitor a rectifier or set of diodes
then to the brushes. ALSO Taryl, if the windings were bad or shorted, they would be
DIS-COLORED Also the rotor with the slip rings is supposed to have a little bit of magnetism
to it, that makes a small a.c. voltage at the yellow wires, that small a.c. voltage goes to
the capacitor then to the rectifier to send D.C. to the sliprings and making the rotor a more
powerful magnet to make more power.
We want to see the Bike build brother, Cheers The Dizz
I flashed mine by plugging in a 1/2 “ drill plugged it in with generator running pulled the trigger and spun the chuck backwards worked great!
This is the first time I've posted a comment on UA-cam because there is info on this video that will incorrectly lead someone to think their generator is bad. That part that shows him checking the 2 white and 2 black wires on the field windings and him saying there should be continuity between them is incorrect. Having no continuity is the way it should be. There SHOULD BE CONTINUITY between one of the black wires and one of the white wires and then the other remaining black and white wire. I was pretty sure this was correct, but I waited to get my generator back running to make 100% sure before I posted this. My problem was the capacitor. Not trying to be contrary just to be aggravating, just trying to save someone from thinking their generator is bad.
Bingo. There should be small resistance between B-W on each coil - the two stator windings, And a small resistance on the yellow. Black to black should be open, and I think whiles are connected together.
I totally subbed! You are awesome man! I am 14 and I own a Landscaping business. My mowers get worked hard, so I have to fix them a lot. You really help me out when fixing them with your videos! I also love watching the skits! You are awesome! Thanks and I’ll make sure to keep watching!!
For flashing, the drill trick works good too.. If all tests passed, generator running, smallest corded electric drill you own, squeeze trigger, spin motor backwards by hand and it should spin back towards you and start working... great video..
Craig Gerlach I'd do the drill trick first, before I started turning wrenches.
Craig Gerlach will try awesome thanks
I own a 1992 circa Coleman 4.4KW engine generator with 8 HP B&S engine and when the winding failed I wrote a letter to Colman and after I gave Coleman the information they asked for they gave me replacement parts for free. I still have the engine generator in working condition today so sometimes it pays to write the people who made the equipment because they may help you out
YUP, the ylw wires are for excitation they'd go to an AVR or a generator capacitor and
a rectifier to brushes. I really think the stator coils were black and white for 1 winding,
and the same for the other winding if it was a 120/240 volts generator.
What STUPID setup! All that just to get to the engine!
This is really good video! I have one with me and it is PM3500 model. when I checked voltage output with the multimeter, the reading go back and forth between 10 V and 121v. when I am using a power drill, It runs smoothly. Is this normal to this model?
I don't know how I came across this channel but I got to say it's the best on UA-cam... absolutely hilarious.... My go to channel now for a few laughs and very informative.. I wish I found this along time ago. Keep up the awesome work boys!!!!!!!Q
John R thank you!! Glad to have you as a viewer. Keep on wrenchin. And there's yur dinner!!
John R true
Awesome, Found broken wire in the rotor, repaired it, reassembled, flashed slip rings/rotor. Still not producing power. Double checked everything and reflashed rotor several times, still no power. Tried applying 12v to brushes while generator running, output jumped up to around 60v then to 120v when I removed the 12v, plugged 500w flood light into both recepticles and it continued to put out 120 volts
I tested continuity on the slipper rings, and I tested for it on the wires in the connector ging to the panel on the exterior with the outlets. All seem fine. I have a Powermate 5000 as well, but it is newer than the ones in this video. In the cover where the brushes are, I have just a bridge rectifier board and none of the other components. I cannot get more than 2 VAC out of the outles. I magnetized at the brushed terminals as well. My generator has two yellow wires coming from the big coil that feeds into the bridge rectifier board. I unplug that board and start the engine and I am only getting just under 2VAC at the end of those two yellow wires at the clip. I also ohmed out the slipper rings and it gives me a 38ohm reading... I am stumped, any ideas?
Dude, you rock! Subbed!
Hello Taryl, man that was good one. Educational and entertaining, reminds me of old original Scooby Doo. The good ones. Anyway going be doing couple generators. Try get um fixed. Moms got new champion yellow 4500 think just was working few times gas drained always when stored went use it several months later start right up no power output.. they put new brushes and little electric piece champion told them usually is. Nothing sent her husband drill method flachy trick nothing send this one have him watch so we can tear back apart and try.
I have a old companion 10 horse Tecumseh from Sears looks like Coleman 5000w. Needs looked at runs gave 40$ for it, have old sears 1100w gen. It's motor and gen. Head with no frame really probably 50$ or 60s maybe earlier 70s model needs look at. Gave 30 or 40 for runs okish, and just got older Coleman 1850 w greenish plastic end casings won't power output runs good looks good just no power output free gave to me. Needs look at. I wish I lived in ur neighborhood or u in mine lol . Well I have rambled enough need be in building fixing them so I'll holler later. Keep up great job man. Ain't easy being that good. 😂.stay safe from ur ole hillbilly buddy.
I have a Coleman Powermate 5000 Maxa ER Plus maybe 12yrs old. It was used once by my nephew and when I got it back it wouldn't put any power out of plugs. I've checked everything you said to but haven't flashed it yet. And I'm curious where is the AVR?
4:15 There is too much, travelling time, involved with this flat type of ' slip ring', for lack of better terms. The brushes, wear out faster, when there is a wider field of travel, with this style. The smaller diameter of the SLIP RING, design, is much better; shorter rate of travel, rotational-wise, means longer brush life. JB weld, those wires from the rotor coils, to the brushes, AFTER silver soldering them on. MAKE it last !
@ Taryl Fixes All
wher u find parts for thm Coleman generators??
Seems it hasn’t been eight years to me, watch nearly all his videos 😊😊😊
I rewatched and know what is coming next 😮
For the field wires on a Coleman Vertex 7500I have 2 connectors. One, yellows with one blue. Have continuity between the 2 yellows. Other connector, 2 blacks measuring open. Looks like I need a field coil?
Ok the second armature you had where the brushes ride on there on mine it's rougher then a cob so when I replace the brushes and with in 10-12 hours of run time it eats the brushes my question is can I replace what looks like bearings where the brushes mount
I've used push pins before, instead of the fancy wire pin device you have, just stick a pin in the wire and take your readings...and there's your dinner,
You have done'it again, real good information. Keep up the good work.
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(Tarly fix it all) world war II generator needs help. Not good with the internet and have no idea where your email is if by any chance you read this or get this message. I need help I have a world war II zxb M5 generator. A restore Small engines but this one has a 4 cylinder Jeep willys engine in it I believe it has continuity but it doesn't output I need to bring it to your shop how and where
Simply the most entertaining fun and informative you tube instruction video ever!
Should be included in every high school and Vol tech class in the nation ,because it is fun and hold your attention.
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The field windings each have a high temperature fuse that breaks the field circuit to avoid the windings catching fire if there is a shorted field or if the user is overloading the generator.
This fuse does not reset because engineers figure if they blow this fuse it's better it never work again than to give the user another chance to cause a fire.
This fuse can be replaced with one that resets once it cools down, or even be bypassed completely, but may result in a fire.
The fuse is wired next to the fields so they will get hot and is usually underneath an insulating wrap or sleeve ( orange sleeve on the older working generator as an example)
The same type of fuse is found in many consumer electronics that use an electric motor including fans.
So what would you say was wrong with a Coleman 6250 if 1 of the 110 plug works, but the other one & 220 one doesn’t work.
Really glad I found your site very entertaining and really good repair information. Keep up the great work and intertainment.
4 yrs an 7 months later, I so wish taryl would check btween the blacks and the whites (disclaimer this
is not meant to be a racist remark)Tghes gens or some of the Colman gens i have workt on have the
power on the black and white wires. so Taryl should put a meter to a black and other side of meter to a white. Taryl the part that moves is a 'field rotor' the other coils that don't move are on 'the stator.'
probably not a smart question but i opened it up and they got the yellow and white spliced together 2x .. my problem is that the motor runs no power when i flash it it works for about 10 minutes then quits giving power
I am very confused w my unit.. I have continuity white to black, black to white on the main connector, but black to black white to white has nothin..🤔
I know this is old, but have you ever worked on "Reddy" brand type generators? My mother-in-law has one and has to use it frequently. It has a Honda engine that runs great, but recently stopped making voltage. My first guess is bad capacitor. I can't find any info about these old cheap generators. Thanks...Great vids
Or voltage regulator/diodes.
@@lciummo1 It was the capacitor. Found replacement online and fixed issue
Hi I solder the broken wire on the stator according to your test but it looks wrong to test black to black it should be black to white from what I find out in internet I will redo the wire and check it again 😊
Yellow to yellow has continuity but black to black and yellow to yellow doesn't. She's it mean that the field lining is no good?
What IS that blue wire for? Some of these Coleman 5000 generators don't have it. The ones with the two diodes in the bottom of the rear housing do. The ones with the bridge rectifier don't.
DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME SEARCHING FOR FIX STUFF. HERE'S YOUR DINNER! Thank you,Daryl.
When I separate gens I remove bolt.... Fill armiture with grease or water. And wack a bolt in hole that fits right with tef tape on it
The armature rings where the brushes ride I have a tone on my meter but it is only when I move the meter tips around and even then it is fuzzy sounding, not a good tone. Thoughts?
well if its any indication of Coleman quality the Coleman retail outlet nearest to me is gone, out of business. they should stick to stoves and lanterns
Wow, he figured my problem out in the first minute! I thank you so much!
Took so long to get to the knowhow. Being a gimmick you lose views just saying
I have continuity between black and white . But not black to black or white to white
Mine can't be fixed !!! Neighbor thugs stole it, I guess to support their bad habits.
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My stator have 2 broken wire I will try to solder them tomorrow 😊 will see thanks for your help 😊
On my field windings the while and black check ok but no continuity on the yellow ones? It the windings bad?
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looks like a floating neutral style. Where is a good spot to bond neutral without using a bonding plug?
great tutorial and explanation on flashing along with how everything works well done
The way I found to take that rotor off if they are stubborn heat the end of that bolt screw it in wait a second then tap head of bolt it helps alot..
Good info. Thank you
Entertainin' AND educational! Just love it! Thank you! :D
You guys are the best. Keep up the good work ...and try to have a little fun.
What is the oms. Uselessly between 2 to 5 oms bad vid and idle speed should be 61 hrs.
Good information, Thanks
Thanks for all the great diagnostic info shown in a fun way!
No continuity = open circuit, no? Great channel bro, thanks!
Ok have a question on the. Colman powermate maxa 5000er generator yellow .black .white have continuity. Not my two that the brushes are riding on ? What do I got to do to it .? Thank you
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Hey Guys, very entertaining for a generator repair vid, and nice teefers too. I have a Coleman Powermate 6875, very similar to the one yer workin' on, can you tell me where the wire goes to? The one that comes up from the bottom of the motor, not the ground wire, the other one, it has a quick disconnect connector on it. Thx man!!
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Hi Taryl just wanted to say that the yellow and black windings that do NOT have continuity are NOT shorted, they are NOT shorted they are open. if working properly they should show a short from one end of the winding to the other with a small resistance. Granted they could be shorted to another winding which is what caused them to open, but as you showed them, they are open.
That was funny and inforormotavivived. Lol
Man there was a BUTT load of advertisements on this video.
That band sounds like the Ramones.
would help if you showed the meter while using it
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+TARYL HI CHARLIE INMAN YOU KNOW ABOUT RIDEMOVERS I GOT NEW ON COME TO MY HOUSE
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With all due respect Taryl, i think you should have a wiring diagram b4 you start saying the
winding is bad. My exp is yellow wires are for the exciter winding blacks (not a racist remark)
reds and blues are for the 120 volts circuits, some use white also, Also if gen has not been
used for a while, that is why monthly maint. is good. gives u a way to know engine will
start up as it should and that gen is putting out . Btr to know it when U don't need it than to
start her up when u do and she will not put out.
With all due respect Taryl, the rotor that has the sliprings which the brushes press against,
that is the 'FIELD' same as the spinning rotor in a car alternator. The other part of the gen-
er8or is known as the 'STATOR' as it is a 'STATIONARY or not moving WINDING. That is the
winding or coil you get your 120/240 volts from.
Are there any exceptions to this color coded rule? I have a Coleman Vertex 7850 that has 4 large wires in 1 of the 3 harnesses coming out of the field. This 1 has 2 black 2 white, and they have numbers on the pins, the 2 whites and the 2 blacks have high impedance between the pairs, but the 1-2 3-4 combinations have continuity. This 1-2 3-4 is a white black combination. This field has those large 4 on one large plug, then 2 blacks on a 2nd connector, and 2 yellow and a blue on a 3rd connector. The 2 yellows are good, Stator is good, Just thought it odd the 1-2 3-4 test out without any shorts to the plates. Hate to search for a used field if there is an exception to the color codes on one of the models. If someone has link to troubleshooting this model, please share, thanks.
In these alternators, the fixt winding or winding that does not move is known as a stator
pronounced by some as st8tor, spinning part is rotor, Taryl, some rotors have permanent
magnets attached to help start generating. The rotors had some residual field to them
but as u sed sometimes have to flash the field. St8or coils with yellow leads were the
exciter winding, they went to some diode/s to turn a.c. to d.c. to then go to the brushes.
the AVR auto voltage regulator sends current to brushes. if output volts are say 130,
the AVR sends less current to brushes and volts go back to 120. voltage goes down to
say 110, AVR sends more current to brushes and volts go to 120.hope it helps friend,
you really are a friend, I appreciate the work you put into your videoze, say hi to ur kats
4me?
how do you know positive and negative?
How to get to the governor on champion Generator
The first had 120v and 240v so it has 2 sets of windings. I don't know your model but it resembles mine. Here is the correct ohm to wire resistance values. Make sure you use a decent DVOM. I used a Harbor freight and registered .3 ohms across every thing. I used my Snap-n lab scope and The values were right on.
Capacitor is listed as 100mfd at 200 volts. Replacement part is listed as 220mfd at 200 volts.
Rotor resistance for the 52-54 4000 watt units should be between 30 and 31 ohms.
Models 52 to 54 4000 Watt stator resistances should be
black to white (1) 0.505 to 0.525
black to white (2) 0.505 to 0.525
yellow to blue (1) 1.05 to 1.15
yellow to blue (2) 1.05 to 1.15
yellow to yellow 2.1 to 2.3
All portable generators manufactured by Coleman Powermate, Inc. use the following standardized wire color-coding:
Power Windings
B-Black
B/W-Black with white tracer stripe
Excitation
R-Red
Y-Yellow (diodes)
Blu-Blue (Capacitor)
Ground
G-Green
Neutral
W-White
W/B-White with black tracer stripe
Battery Charger O-Orange
Idle Control O-Orange
Thank you sir! Learned a lot about generators watching your video rather than a lot of others I have seen! Very informative! Thank you sir ! Keep it up! 👍
Hey Tim.... Been experiencing a lot of ignition problems with Stihl lately... First a 441 now a 362.... Both came in with customer complaint of no spark when hot... Replaced the coil on the 441, basically because there is no definitive way to trouble shoot it... Worked fine, back again with same complaint... 362 cuts like a champ, made a dozen cuts in an 18" diameter log, never missed a beat... Not really expecting a diagnosis over the net, but are there any characteristic ignition probs n these saws that you are aware of Thanks, T
Hello Taryl, There are a few different ways these st8ors are or can be wound, Some put the
ends of the two 120 volt windings together to 1 white or gray wire. with a black at 1 end
and a blue or red at the other end. across the black, red or blue is 240 volts, but either black,
red or blue to the white or gray will give the 120 volts. Some have a white wire for each 120
volt winding. If u check resistance to both white wires and black an red or dark colored wires
are not hooked to a load, you will think you have a bad generator when you don't. Champion
power equip. is good. u can get manual for gen on line w wiring schematic ( not a scream in
the attic) Sometimes the white which is called a neutral is connected to frame as well as the
ground. if u have a bad appliance plugged in an touch frame of gener8or u might seriously
get to know it. that is known as a 'Bonded neutral' So my friend and I mean that in thanks for
ur great vids, b4 st send a generator to the electric chair, at least look online for the diagram
and u may find u have a good st8or after all.
My generator was left out in the rain and quit putting out power. All was rusted. I cleaned up the rust but still no power. After watching your video, doing all the tests, I excited the armature. I had to have the engine running though because I did not get that spark when it was not running. When it was running I did get a spark and the generator works perfect. I really appreciate your guidance. Learned a lot. Great video and job Taryl.
Tim
Nice one some , good info yet again.
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Great info and Funny stuff! I like it. I do have a question. I have a Homelite 4000. It doesn't produce power unless I take my wife's old hair drier and turn it on. If I am just trying to run 3 lights in my camper it won't energize. Since it works when I use the drier or kick on the coffee maker it's not a problem. But I wonder why I can't start the generator and recharge the camper battery with its charger or have all the lights in the trailer on and charge our cell phones until I hit it with a good load on it. Once its charging it produces power with a single cell phone charger. Something keeps it from energizing until it gets a pretty good draw. Thanks!
most the time working on them coleman gen , i find the circuit board blown from people over powering the gen , still find them on ebay , cause colemen dont make rewplacements . great vid , thanks