Why does everyone hate Hasanabi (this week)
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0:00 - Why Does Everyone Hate Hasan?
0:53 - Original Hasan Clip Chimp
3:47 - Is Streaming Hard?
7:32 - XQC's Response
9:27 - Twitter Reply Guy 1 Responds
11:17 - Why Stream If Its So Bad
13:37 - Post Stream VS During Stream
15:27 - The Full Context
18:07 - Twitter Reply Guy 2 Responds
25:51 - In Conclusion... - Ігри
Having to put this week as a qualifier is so funny
I hated Hasan last year, I hated Hasan last week, I hated Hasan today and I will hate him tomorrow.
@@Mighttesterrent free lmao how do y’all have so much hate for someone that causes no actual harm to anyone
Should also be big thing because people are constantly finding worthless little things to hate him for.
@@AMSNDylanI hate Tucker Carlson too, doesn't mean I think about him daily. It's ok to dislike people for having a bad influence on others
@AMSNDylan cope
Having also worked in retail myself, I wholeheartedly agree that the “standing around and scratching your balls” was definitely the peak part of each shift
That’s how I would spend my breaks
What I find really funny is how immediately, without full context, Stanz basically took the full position that Hasan was trying to make
But drama farmers like x and people who hate him like Willy don't care.
@gbow1068 except they did and was responding for the video with the full context. "Context" changed fck all.
well you know the take 'everything has nuance' is always the best take
Stanzy actually popped off and made great points this vid
It's kinda Hassan's fault by being a terrible communicator
I think the biggest gap in streaming vs normal jobs is streamers are in full control of the content, the type of content they want to post to gain followers, the ability to set schedules and be flexble in their life. A normal 9-5 theres no wiggle room, youre there 9-5. If a streamer wants to change the schedule, change the length of streams. Theyre in full control. If they don't want to stream 9 hours they dont have. 90% of the streamers i follow only stream 1-4 hours. And thats without bringing up the incredible pay gap.
yeah hasan actually says this too privileged ofc but allowed to feel socially drained
This ^
Hasan is allowed to be stressed by his job. I could personally never be a streamer. But obviously this wasn't something he should've shared. Because while hard it is a privilege
@@twoglasshandsobviously he is allowed to feel socially drained, that seems like a given with streaming. But comparing it to a soul sucking 9 to 5 saying streaming is more draining is ridiculous.
that would be ridiculous but I'm pretty sure he was comparing his own personal experience relating it to his last job@@sebamoreno2986
You say normal jobs, but isn't that just like starting your own business? You control your hours, sure, but if you don't really do anything with it you will never get anywhere. You still have to have the discipline or the entire thing falls apart. Only the top percent can get away with being truly flexible, and that's the whole goal for some people starting their business. And if you own a business, your job doesn't really end when the shift ends. In this way, people who work 9-5 are in full control as well. They're in full control to try and start their own business to reach the same results, and that's usually the jump you gotta make even if you have to work 9-5 to get it (which is how most streamers do it).
I work in customer service, and it is draining as shit and I've been called the worst shit imaginable, but him saying that his social battery gets drained is STIILL VALID. people just love drama farming him, though.
for me as someone who has had a few customer facing jobs, both seem very draining the difference is that streamers get paid probably 10x more and can take a day off without risking losing all their income
@lupp279 im saying as someone who currently works in a customer facing job.
Fair enough. But all the money in the world doesn't mean the horrific things people say to streamers, telling them to die, doxing them, doxing their families, still won't bother you I mean over time it might get less but hasan is still a human being.
His social battery is drained, but he's a millionaire. I am autistic and introverted with extreme social anxiety, I have LITERALLY no social battery left after work, I live in my bed and sleep 12-14 hours a day because I am just drained, except I can't even afford healthcare or to fix my teeth. As far as I'm concerned Hasan (who I usually like) can cry a fucking river. He can take a fucking day off!!!!!!! I can't!!! We're fucking poor and miserable and I'm so fucking sick of these influencers crying like they don't have LITERALLY the best lives on the fucking planet. He needs to learn to shut the fuck up.
@@PoliticalNB a human being taunting the 99.9999% of other human beings who will never ever come close to living the level of luxury he lives. It's not right. Do they just not understand the level of misery the working poor experience?
@ade6251 Man work sucks at every level. Yeah, he's overpaid, but the dude also streams 8-12 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. That's a lot dude and having to essentially perform to any number of people for that long is draining, let alone 50k ppl, not to mention ppl taking clips out of context like this exact case
Tbh most people with “regular jobs” are too busy to get angry about content creators ngl.
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It's really revealing how the biggest people coming after him are other streamers/youtubers and fucking professional Tweeters as if they have any right to stand up for the common man.
Funniest thing I have encountered in UA-cam comments is how some people say they hate seeing "these lazy people" and how they should get a "real job". Like dude, you are watching UA-cam content in general for entertainment. You're complaining about these people while actively watching their shit lmao
hasan stans being delusional like usual
as opposed to you, the common content creator fan, who doesn't have; and aren't busy enough with a regular job, apparently.
Honestly the hardest COMMON job is customer service. You dont have time to fuck off and You're by definiyion dealing with people who are pissed off at your company. I've worked as an electrician, a shelf stocker, a customer service lead, a delivery truck packer, an IT professional, a game technician, a prototyper, and finally as a softgoods designer, and the only one i would NEVER go back to is customer service. And it isnt like that stress stays at work when you go home. Your job security is based on reviews by people who hate you for explaining the return policy. You live your life without a set schedule making habit forming and stability impossible. You're completely socially drained after a shift and the only thing you generally have in mind is the hours you have at home before the next shift and if you got 8 hours of sleep would you be wasting your freedom? Ive never been so conviced that hell is a place on earth as i was standing behind that counter for 6-10 hours a day.
welding, field work like detassling, planting, and meatpacking seem like the worst to me.
@@shwift8789 Sounds like a personal preference for sure, I do strongly agree with the previous statement of customer service being so rough. Its demeaning at times, and kicks you when you're already down, all while typically being considered "Unskilled labor" by people like u
I will be clear there is NO SUCH THING as unskilled labor, the term was invented by those who are rich and in power telling you that somehow you deserve less because they deem your job easy (They have never done your job, they will never do your job, they are INCAPABLE of doing your job) all of their wealth and work comes from your labor and production
Quite literally THE most draining of one's social battery, and we get paid shit.
genuinely almost killed myself working customer service for a bank, the way that you are 24/7 on edge taking call after call and when you make the smallest mistake people will go fucking demon mode on you because only 1/10 callers sees you as an actual human being
Most hypocritical thing is that all those twitter accounts don't have a real job and just tweet for a living
Imho any1 that actively uses twitter doesnt have a hard job.
What kind of point is this? So only certain people should be allowed to criticize him? They have to have a “hard enough life” for you?
This is exactly what conservatives say. If you’re poor and attack the rich, you’re jealous. If you’re not poor and attack the rich, you’re a hypocrite. You’re literally using a conservative talking point to defend a “leftist”.
I think people lose a lot of empathy for streamers complaining about how hard their job is (even if it's only their social battery) because it's all self-imposed. When you're the one deciding you need to stream 9 hours a day, every day of the week, it's different than Joe Schmo who has no control over their hours and still make less money. There's a level of freedom along with the money (if you're popular) that the majority of people don't ever have in their jobs.
There is total freedom as a multi-millionaire content aggregate like Hasan. He doesn’t have to stream another minute in his life and he could live comfortably. He has no restrictions at all.
That's why he said that he's blessed with his job
@@leanansidhe6332 He’s blessed beyond belief, it is almost incomprehensible how easy his job is. The only thing he has to worry about is trying to act like he’s a true socialist.
@TheWheelsMaster Have you seen him interact with people watching? It’s exhausting just watching him manage to read chat while talking about whatever subject he’s on while dealing with the insane stalkers who hating Hasan is their whole personality.
@@gateauxq4604 Again, he controls everything about the interaction. He decides how exhausting it is.
And it’s not hard to talk about whatever subject when you don’t pride yourself in being informed about those subjects.
Teachers don’t get to turn it off when they leave the school
-an exhausted teacher
I went on a LOT of tangents while talking live, and Teacher was one of the first jobs I thought of when thinking of toughest jobs
My parents were both teachers and my best friend is a teacher.. the 1000% accuracy of this comment. Yall are like celebrities in the community and it's exhausting to watch. Then the absolute shit pay on top of everything. My heart goes out to you! I'm super thankful you do what you do!
I think this clip is an incredible example of what must make streaming incredibly tiring for Hasan and other streamers. He says something which is actually kind of reasonable in context when it comes to streaming 9 hours and social battery has gone batshit viral being clipped and discussed and him being dunked on. One misslip or lack of context can be thousands of people shitting on you, on top of the regular thousands of people that shit on him daily. You need to be so "on" for that entire time to try and not slip up which must take a lot of mental effort.
Basically every job has upsides and downsides and obviously everyone who works normal jobs is going to be jealous of streamers who make bank, but it doesn't mean there is not big downsides which can be incredibly draining.
Except every single one of those things, retail workers and food service workers have to do on the daily in order to survive, without the option to take a day off, for $12 an hour. I usually love hasan but he can cry more.
You dont need to be so "On" for nine hours, XQC on of the biggest streamer certainly doesnt and IMO if your making the absurd amount of money hasan is its hard to empathetic about how "hard" it is to be a streamer.
this is so delusional im concerned.
@@spartantaco999except they have incredibly different fan bases, where xqc could get caught doing/saying pretty much anything without it affecting his career where comparatively people are constantly looking to ruin hasans career & potential could
@@haridaspalleeri6765what do you mean by this?
As an educator, literally all the parts about streaming being hard on your social battery applies. Actually insane. I hope my students don't view me only as "teacher guy."
Exactly. I’m a school counselor so while I have fewer interactions overall the weight of those interactions leaves me mentally and socially exhausted by the end of the day.
The shit noone ever brings up in these conversations is how "real jobs" can have their employment status revoked at any time. If you want to not stream for a week, yeah that might hurt your stats, but you aren't going to get fired. The stress of a "real job" is that you have to do *everything* someone else says for the entire duration of the time you're there under threat of losing 100% of your income, your healthcare, your place of living, and your food. Literally *none* of those are real threats to big streamers. It'd be damn near impossible for someone at that level to perform bad enough or to say shitty enough stuff to have consequences at that level; to literally not know how you're going to eat tomorrow. Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck which puts insane levels of power on the employer; the employee must do everything the employer asks, even when it's unethical, even when it's exploitative, and even when it's illegal, because the consequence of an immediate termination can be as bad as homelessness. Imagine if when you streamed there was one viewer that had the power to insta-ban you. You have to follow every single instruction they give in chat, and you have to do it with a smile. Also, sometimes people just get banned for no reason and there's zero recourse available to you. Also you're not allowed to save more than 3 months worth of expenses in your bank account. That's what it's like to work a real job.
I'm not a streamer, but I'm a teacher(I mean we both deal with children.). I used to work a more physical job. I am 10x more burnt out and drained at the end of the day than I ever was before this. I understand where Hasan is. I think the soul sucking thing was very easy to take out of context because I originally did take that the wrong way, thinking "My job has literally beaten things I believed in out of me because of how utterly hopeless things are."
I mean i get it, it is mentally easier to do job, buts varies on the job, some job are extremely mentally draining. Like doctors more specifically trauma doctors, they deal with a lot of trauama all day, thats mentally draining. It all depends on what you choose in life
Kind of wild that this discourse proved his exact point. Bro words one valid point awkwardly, is clipped, and the entirety of the internet jumps down his throat for days at a time
him saying this while sitting in a mansion making millions of dollars. Why should I feel bad?
This is irrelevant to the video but I met Hasan in Amsterdam a few years ago, Will Neff was there too, I ask for a photo and Will says "let's do the prom pose" but prom isn't as big of a thing in the UK and I was also kinda zonked at this point (Amsterdam past midnight, you get me) so I had no idea what he meant. Also there's 3 of us so I think Hasan is a bit confused too. Anyway Will stands behind me with his hands on my hips, I do the titanic pose, and then Hasan just stands in front of me with his hands on my shoulders.
I think about this moment a lot, every time Hasan or Will are mentioned. I know the prom pose would be having my hands on my hips but I still don't know how it was meant to work as a 3.
I am sympathetic to the social draining that I assume has to happen as a streamer. At the same time though, I work at a non profit taking calls from people like DV victims and people facing evictions all day for not much over 30k/year, so that part of me gets filled with rage seeing someone that well compensated for what he does complain like that at all. I recognize that's not a fair or rational response, but I can't turn off those emotions fully just because I can see they're not perfectly logical.
They are logical and rational though. He's being a whiny little privileged cry baby and he needs to hear it. Most other rich people need to hear it more than him for different reasons but this was goddamn egregious lol
@@vancewade6251Stop with the nonsense, he was just explaining how he was too tired to socialise much at a birthday party after streaming all day. That's literally all it is.
@@nunpho he could go to the party anf then not stream for a week to recharge. Regular person doesnt get that prvilege
@@haridaspalleeri6765yeah, but he chooses to work, and are you really suggesting that he not work? Lol
@@queeniegreengrass3513 Hasan has made enough money from streaming in the last 5 years for him and his future kids to live comfortably. Lemme know when an average worker gets paid that much in 5 years and we'll continue this conversation.
I think Hassan is in a unique position where it’s especially true for him. Being the biggest guy in online politics is, I imagine, more particularly grueling to do his day to day than his equal in a different niche.
Solid vid stanz
"Being the biggest guy in online politics" WTF? He is just a dud having unrealistic takes on the world. Everyone who has at least mid-quality knowledge of history and politics rightfully hates this dude for talking garbage. I have no hope for this world reading posts like yours...
his chat is also idiotic
The dude does exactly what he wants when he wants must be so grueling. That includes stream times, topics, UA-cam vids, etc... gtf outta here.
When I first heard about this drama I immediately dismissed it. There's too much monetary incentive for twitter users to incite hate on someone like hassan, so it's never worth paying attention to. This is the only video I'm gonna watch about this issue because --I'm a parasocial andy who wants to give stanz ad revenue-- I trust Stanz to dive deeper and give a balanced take on the situation, and I appreciate the process even if I don't care for the topic itself.
He was saying people that come after you 24/7 on twitter and do exactlyyyyy this and clip chimp him and tear him to shreds every day. It’s really insane. I totally understood what he was saying and it was that THIS is the problem of streaming. Everyone harassing him.
He literally qualified it as his SOCIAL battery and not his like physical battery like where you can’t move or do anything anymore. He specifically said tjat
As a new nurse i felt so seen when you brought up my prefession.
I wasnt even thinking "screw hasan i work my ass off" i was thinking
"Wtf did i get myself into"
Im glad i have the opportunity to help people but i do wish my life was easier and i could bitch about normal day to day things instead of what im dealing with now.
people who don't have social battery-draining jobs just don't understand that their work from home or excel spreadsheet office 9-5 job can't compare mentally with having to perform for your every social interaction for an 8 hour work day. as a social worker I genuinely have nothing left in me at the end of the day for socialization with friends/family, or even text messages. it's crazy how people can't understand that hasan gets drained from his job when he receives death threats and viral online hate on a daily or weekly basis, imagine having to constantly worry about if what you say at work is going to go viral on twitter/reddit or get you swatted. you couldn't pay me enough to be a big name streamer
Hasan gets drained because he says dumb shit and people call him out on it and he can’t handle facts. I’m not saying streaming is easy but you get to choose what you’re doing that day. You choose what you talk about. You choose the mood of your twitch chat. If you’re going to talk about controversial things with misinformation, get called out on it, not apologize and get ripped on live, sure it’s stressful.
If you dont want to be in the public eye with bad takes, don’t go online with bad takes. I’ve seen chats be super kind. It’s all about the audience you farm.
Again. I don’t want to downplay streaming or marketing (streaming is all live marketing). I understand how hard it could be. But it’s only has hard as you make it.
@@Yeroccohate watchers saying dumb shit in his chat because he's a socialist is not something he can control, unless your solution is not speaking about socialism, which is just censorship via dumb people saying it wil ruin their lives to ask for better work conditions and not support genocide
@Yerocco he's talking about his social battery. And even if he does have "bad takes" he doesn't deserve to get death threats on a daily basis, get told to kill himself everyday. I watch his full streams and sometimes no matter what he will get clipped out of context by other streamers audiences who constantly hate watch him just to do that. No one has to like him but the overall vitriol is bullshit.
I fully understand he gets drained. So do I. I will probably never make what hasan makes in a year in my entire lifetime. so he can shut the fuck up.
@@PoliticalNB you control your fans. If you’re getting an overwhelming amount of hate, it’s because you farmed it. Sure you’ll have an outlier here and there. But when he speaks on wars when he has no knowledge and offends those people in the situation he has it coming. Do I agree with it? Absolutely not. But he has full control over what his channel is about. He lives for drama. He will read out bad comments and try to publicly shame them. Now I’m not saying he wouldn’t have any issues if he wasn’t so controversial as humans suck as a whole.
But yes. Him saying that it is more socially draining could very well be true. But the thing is, you can’t measure it. It’s also just part of growing up. You go to work, come home, eat, and chill. If you have the excuse that you worked and you can’t do a social event, that’s your own issue. If it is impacting your relationships, it’s a you problem.
americans never fail to misunderstand socialism
Even with the context of social battery, it would be so much easier than literally any service job. If I’m getting screamed at by four grown adults about how their time wasn’t perfect and how I should feel bad about my useless existence, I can’t just press a button and make them go away. You don’t have to worry about a chatter sexually assaulting you during your shift and their wife berating you for not handling it better. You don’t have to have any physical interactions with the psychopaths you meet on a daily basis, but we do.
But he also said except for service industry. You agree with him.
@@morganbrokaw5190 he said service industry was on par with streaming which is just wrong, it’s 100x easier. Why don’t you get the facts before replying.
Thank you for showing love to nurses, we deal with A LOT. I worked in a nursing home and the mental stress, physical labor, emotional toll… it’s not something I will soon forget. Not to mention the nursing industry is severely understaffed and underpaid. Speaking from personal experience, we were responsible for 20 people per person during an entire 9 hour shift. Imagine trying to help someone walk to the restroom and getting a beep knowing someone could have fallen and you can’t get there in time. I had to leave due to the work conditions, we were paid 15 an hour and asked to come in with the flu/covid. Just saying, nurses deserve a thank you. I hold them so highly in my heart.
All those "Twitter Content Creators" are suffering from legit brain damage on another level
To be fair he said "not like a real job does" not just "sales jobs". He's saying he worked a 'real job' (sales) and is using the term 'real job' to compare with streaming in social drain.
The comparison is what causes the contention.
And from what info available, his sales job was 2 months and it was for his uncle for TYT, so you can't really gauge how hard or how socially draining things would have been if he'd worked there longer or didn't have ties to the person who owns the business.
EDIT: but i still liked your coverage on it. Quite entertaining and level headed. :)
I also don't think that rich people claiming they are "lower middle class" is less of people not wanting to think they have it easy, and more just a general ignorance among the rich of just how many people are poor and miserable and how miserable they indeed are at their behalf.
Great video Stanz, Even though I think in this particular scenario Hasan's comments did not warrant the hate he received and I actually agree with him, due to how he portrays himself and some of the dumb stuff he's done in the past, is the reason why he is getting so much hate. Basically people don't like him and it's a good chance to dunk on him, which in all fairness in my opinion, he's getting what he deserves. It's like that meme, The worst person you know just made a great point.
Could you elaborate on how he portrays himself and the dumb stuff. I do not want to incite an argument I only want to understand your position further
@@Sprunkle2 well WillyMacShow made a good video highlighting a lot of my own sentiments so you'd get the idea if you watch that. Its called Hasan the worst politics streamer.
@ith1781 I think my other comment got deleted for some reason.
WillyMacShow made a video that basically explains pretty well most the issues I have. The vids called Hasan is the worst political streamer.
It's interesting to see your thoughts on "it's easy to stream, harder to not stream" almost perfectly overlaps with what Atrioc said briefly about this same topic. While it is only anecdotal, it does seem to echo quite loudly in the streamer space.
yeah it seems like anyone who watches the whole context is cool about it
When drama like this happens streamers usually get death threats or swatted.
I think the fear of that is probably why Hasan jumped to talking about school shooters. He probably feels some amount of real danger when this kinda drama happens.
He has talked before how he hates these types of drama cause of it cause’s swatting, or calls from the FBI warning him and stuff.
I worked at Wendy's from 16-20. the issue came when we didn't have enough workers. It would be me and 2 others on the night shift with a line of cars around the building. And night shift is significantly harder because nobody wants to work it so it feels a lot harder to handle the workload. You couldn't eat, piss, restock half the time. I'll never go back if I can help it
This is my thing, I’ve stream for 10 hours a day, while working in fast food.
For a few months, I would go to work, come home, turn on stream for several hours, and on my days off I would stream for 10 hours a day.
The entire time I would usually have 0 viewers. The most I’ve ever had was 2. And I never even got enough followers to be allowed to make money from twitch.
And while streaming can be soul sucking for long periods of time, it’s not even close to the stress of working in fast food, or retail, or customer service, all of which I’ve worked while streaming.
Now, I’m a substitute teacher, it’s a pretty easy job, but there is still times where I want to cry, I have broken down crying once I got home from dealing with high schoolers.
I’m also building my portfolio to be a 3D modeler, and I love modeling, but when you do it for 9-10 hours a day, it sucks the soul out of you. It’s fun, and you want to do it again, just like streaming, but after long hours it can suck the soul out of you. And the entire time there is no chat interaction, or playing video games, or the money to help that 9-10 hours go by.
7:03 hearing this stocking shelves on the night shift 👍
Hell yeah 😎
I think it's so apt that people pissing and moaning about HasanAbi for this just saw a tiny clip that cut off and based their entire worldview around it. Chronic Fox News enjoyers
Also I understand the point being made and I am sure that post stream planning, work, and socialising is tiring. But the assumaption that "real" jobs don't have exactly the same thing is also something that I think people are angry about.
As Stanz says "most jobs suck" but he mentioned the benefit is well worth it, you stream more hours, plan bigger events, etc. but in general that nets you more money, on the other hand when I as a software engineer get woken up in the middle of the night to patch something, or spend 16 hours a day writing code and collaborating to meet a deadline, I still get the same salary at the end of the month.
The gist of what I am saying is that although some aspects of streaming are challenging yes, I can guarantee you I can find someone facing the exact same problems, with none of the upside, doing a "real" job.
19:14 the guy actually did the "socialism is when poor" meme. Really tell me you don't know what socialism is without telling me you don't know what socialism is
It's always really funny when the "socialism is when homeless" arguments come out. Not even necessarily about not knowing what socialism is, but fully not understanding that participating in a system you live within is not the same as agreeing with that system
Also correct me if I’m wrong but socialism is about the even distribution of wealth not how you do spend your own money. And also yeah we live in a capitalist country so that plays a part
@@brots3 Yes somewhat like that, and also the ownership of the "means of production" by the working class. It's not just about money, it's also about social structures in society.
Even though it wasn’t Hasan’s argument Twitter really made the “streaming is the hardest job” argument for him cause idk any other job where thousands of people are wishing me death like
It’s disturbing how little media literacy there is online, where arguably it’s needed the most. People are spinning things disingenuously just for clout and to clown and yet people will take it at face value.
This reminds me of the live action Scooby Doo 2 news where they just clip Fred’s statement to “I hate Coolsville”
Sales job is hard because of the constant low hanging anxiety.
It is frustrating how every aspect of streaming or otherwise comes down to... "I do it because it makes money". Stanz said he does this content for money, while at the same time pointing out that twitter users upload content for impressions/money, while Hasan streams 9 hours for money... etc.
I get this is the world we're in, but it's frustrating to see every aspect of content creation reduced to 'but how do I make money' and eventually good content is shifted for algorithm-favoured content like react videos, drama videos, etc with streamers going: "Yeah but the money though." - this is why even now people are going: "Mr Beast ruined the platform because he showed how to get more money if you have no qualms about doing only the same thing over and over".
Interesting point about the sales job. I have done sales job that I imagine are soul crushing in the same way streaming is. 6-8 hours on the phone talking to people exaggerating my enthusiasm and conversation - I have no energy to do anything after a day of this. But I stopped after 6-8 months thank God. I have some sympathy to how much mental energy being a succesful streamer is.
I think it's not mostly about the job itself, it's the reward part that differentiates.
Like even hard jobs, you'll get used to the doing part after some time, but when you feel like there's no room for growth or you're not being rewarded based on the work you put in, that's the "soul sucking" part.
If you worked at Macdonald and made 2M dollars a year, you'd probably be fine and have a happy life also, but that's not the case.
Nobody is saying streaming is easy or it doesn't require daily actions and a lot of hours, but the reward for it definitely makes up for the hours put it.
On the other hand I think complaining overall is a waste of time, since you make your choices and you put up with the results, good or bad, streamer or 9 to 5 er.
A lot of jobs drain social battery, working 8 hours at my factory job I still had energy to play a game and talk with friends, it changed to 12 hour shifts and my social battery is non existent now. So looking at Hassan’s job I would take it 100% because I’m still having no social battery but at least I’m being paid way more
Even with full context I’d still disagree with him. In his case I don’t see why he can’t just end stream in the middle of his 9 hour stream then go back on when he’s had a good break. He can also choose when ever to stream or not stream lol
i mean yeah but its job
The Creatures and Cowchop deep dive WHEN???
Hasan been streaming too damn much for ages, seems mad burnt out from an outsiders perspective
Must be hard for streamers to have boundaries between work and the rest of their life/time. at least my desk job has clearly defined boundaries. I clock out, I leave my work, it doesn’t follow me
Not gonna lie, teaching is one of the shittiest jobs I have seen. I am a substitute and I thank every day that I am because full teachers deal with so much shit and don’t get paid nearly enough to be verbally and physically assaulted
I'll tell you why we do nursing stanz...... Actually I have no fucking clue, my job is a nightmare sometimes
I will say, I work as a school social worker and there is a lot that drains me. But there is a lot that fills me up as well. And I wouldn't want to go back to fast food or retail.
I suspect the day to day is more draining for streamers. But that I have more heavy things that weigh me down from work specifically if I am not taking care of myself.
I have a very hard time caring about the difficulties of an already successful career that has been 'well' compensated. If I could double underline and bold "well," I absolutely would. You're not getting any sympathy from people that are working mentally and/or physically demanding jobs that don't even make enough money to rent or be a home owner, god forbid you consider trying to do those things and raise a family while working your 8+ hours every day. This is the majority of people, especially young people(the twitch viewer demographic) in America. Anyone that is raking in millions of dollars per year, thousands of dollars per day, can kiss our working American asses before we well 'ever' give a shit about his well compensated ass. Dude even came from one of the richest families in Turkey, I bet he has never even worked a "real job." It's the only way he can be the way that he is, for the acquisition or procurement of all of his basic necessities to have never even had to cross his mind in his lifetime. He's a nepo-baby whining about the capitalist system, of which he is one of the biggest benefactors in the country, from his mansion. If you asked me, streamers should take more care of themselves or maybe hire a life coach to make sure their physical & mental health is taken care of, it's not good for their career long term to ruin their health anyways. A bunch of them just get into drugs and ruin their careers because they can't handle the money and the concept that they can just keep working and keep making money(9+ hours a day). Look at the big picture of your life and figure out how to grow your career without using your physical/mental health as a resource.
I’ve been working in specifically fast food since I was 17. I’m 21. Hasan is my streamer (whose streams I don’t watch cuz I ain’t got time) so I’m charitable, but I really don’t feel my social battery drained at all. I have a small social battery to start, but it’s so easy to just run through a response tree when interacting with customers. I have a pre-planned line for any situation, and I have no drainage as a result.
What's funny about x's take is that Hasan WAS sales person, LOL. Even if he meant retail (let's be honest here. That's being generous).
Aint no way the job xqc came up with was the same job hasan did before streaming lmao
i work a retail job and a video editing job the retail job being full time and i cannot stream for over 2 hours without wanting to evaporate
for someone with this many detractors, you'd expect him to at least know how to not get clipped out of context this many times... hasan really needs to work on that
I will say this about any job, I like my job over all (I'm an auditor) I get paid well. but there comes a certain threshold where the BS associated with the job (the long hours, the lack of work life balance, the stress of the job it self) becomes to much for the amount that I am paid.
hasan, with rough estimates, makes yearly the salary of a small team of surgeons.
its impossible for normal people to sympathize with him because normal people will make less in their lifetime than he makes in 10 years.
even with the full context in mind, and admittedly I don't have a problem with him (as a person/content creator), but it is a little bit detached.
i don't think he deserved this, and the hate he got was for a statement he didn't even make, but i also understand why, even after learning what he actually meant, people still got mad
Working in a pharmacy was the most stressful unfun experience of my life, stayed there for 5 years for some reason :(
Bro, same. Being a tech at a local pharmacy was the woooooooorst and I stuck there for 4+1/2 years. Still recovering LMAO.
Working at a warehouse is significantly hard.
Also he has to deal with talking about stuff like bombings in Gaza and people making it seem okay or even chatter with just the worst takes or that just want to add something without understanding it entirely about something that happened and killed innocents and children.
Hasan is usually the one with the insane takes😂 He breeds a chat full of people like that too. Just look at what happened when his veiwers starting saying insane things about Ethan Klein😂 Hasan is the king of talking about shit he's not qualified to speak on and then not apologizing when he's wrong.
Oh no, he has to read the news, so consuming......
Yeah Reading the actual news and playing clips of it must be so hard. Stay strong Hasan 😔✊
Not me having to do both office work, manual labor, networking and customer service in my one job and feeling both mentally and physically
Drained after coming home at 3AM because we need to get some jets up for day check to launch them.
By an absolute mile the best take I’ve seen about this. The internet would be a better place if more people listened to you stanz
As someone who actually does talk to his computer/people on the other end all day every day it is very socially draining
I gotta say my social battery drain ten times faster online or via phone. I consider myself a pretty damn good front desk worker. But damn i got so exausted answering the phome and having email back and forts...
The problem we face nowadays is the fact that most of the hardest jobs do not make nearly enough money for the physical/mental strain to be worth it.
Dude is so full of himself he is trying to portrait streaming as hard. Don't compare your job to other jobs if you live in la la land and never grinded an actual job to pay the bills, not just a filler job until your next venture one that you care a little for because your livelihood is on the line. He could had left it at streaming is draining, the narcissist trying to berate anyone that says otherwise or has an opinion. Stanz be like well he has good points lol.
Trust Stanz to be one of the few creators with a rational and reasonable approach to all this drama
I’m glad we cleared this up. So now we can all agree that the hardest job in the world is a Twitch chatter
He was talking about his own social battery when discussing his incapability to hang out like a normal person at a friend's party or something. He has on multiple occasions discussed how he is lucky af for doing what he does. Pretty sure lots of creators have offhandedly talked about the social battery aspect of streaming, in fact, a few of my favourite part-time streamers have mentioned how they just choose to not stream regularly because of this very reason. Most terminally online people just hate Hasan because of his various political positions and sometimes arrogant takes and that's the only reason this got huge. Honestly think some of the Hasan criticisms are valid but this genuinely comes across like a smear campaign designed by people who just want to discredit Hasan and in turn discredit valid campaigns that he is a part of.
XQC saying 'try a salesjob' with hasan's primary profession prior to streaming being that is so fucking funny to me
This "mental battery" thing is such a dumb point. Every job is mentally draining, because even when you punched out, even if your job consisted of scratching your balls for 8 hours, 99% of the time that is not the end of it. You still need to make ends meet and when you need to carefully count your money to reach the next date when you get paid, trust me your "social battery" isn't so full even without Twitch chat making you oh so sad and tired. But honestly, I am not surprised Hasan completely this side of the argument, he was born into a very wealthy family, and he never needed to go from wage to wage, that well before his fame on Twitch.
hassan might say that streaming is more socially draining than a 9-5 but he isnt sitting next to my coworker nathan..
I love the ending, the iconic oil rig shirtless work vid. Banger
theres a very clear misconception here that 'common jobs' are customer service, retail etc because that's what streamers did before hand (i.e., it's what unqualified teenagers do). Like yeah, they're not always the most mentally draining. Compare that to doctors, teachers, factory workers, lawyers, who are constantly under extreme pressure to perform. Getting tired of doing one thing for while (especially when that one thing is playing games or editing videos) is not nearly as "soul-sucking" as jobs where you have to work constantly for long hours, AND you have little-no control over your hours, AND a bad week can massively impact someone's life AND you can get sacked on the spot if you underform.
I work food delivery by bike, physically exhausting but I do completely agree with stanz, it's hard physically, a bit dangerous sure and it absolutely sucks but I can have music in my headphones and just view it as a workout I get payed for.
9:27 I will never forget what Kira has said
What I learned is that no matter what you do for a living, we all have struggles. I think it’s unfair to invalidate someone’s struggles because you find their life easy. If you’ve seen any of hasans streams you notice that he constantly gets hate on there. He gets criticized for raising money for charity…. So yeah while he may not get physically exhausted, I’m sure he gets mentally drained.
it's fine to argue that streamers are privileged or out of touch, but I'm glad my "real" job doesn't include crazy stalkers, death threats, doxxing and swatting
Wait, you're telling me that hasan made a totally reasonable/unremarkable statement and people lied about what he said only so they could dunk on him?
Damn, that's crazy, next you'll tell me the north pole is kinda chilly this time of year
I work in hospitality. Have worked in bars since I was 17, I wont lie, yeah a lot of the time it sucks, its incredibly customer facing, i deal with a lot of entitled cunts and I have to do a lot of physical shit. But genuinely the thought of sitting down every day for 9 hours straight ( Hassan literally specifies in his twiter bio that he streams EVERY DAY) and talking to literally just a camera and a scrolling wall of fucking text seems absolutely soul destroying. Look I get streamers get paid much more but genuinely fuck that, sounds like my worst fucking nightmare. Like at least at my job i can go clear a table or hide and put some glasses away. The thought of talking to mostly fucking weirdos and trolls all day sounds fucking insane to me.
This whole thing was blown out of proportion its like you said, he was having a conversation was his viewers about his experience and draining his social battery. He got clip chimped and i think thats a part of the draining part. I work an 8-5 office job and my social battery is full, i want social interaction with friends, and my wife. Or when i used to work in food service i was physically tired but not socially drained, i wanted social interaction with friends and family. Which i usually missed out on bc of work. Currently watching this from my 8-5 job :)
This week! Every week
being a streamer seems a lot like being a server - at least in the tips based hell hole the job is in America. your pay is directly related to how entertained you can make a group of people, and so from the moment you start to the end of the shift you are on trying to sell both the products to raise the amount they tip on and selling yourself so they tip at a higher percentage. both very draining jobs from a social battery standpoint.
LMAO THIS WEEK
4:15- I don't believe Hasan was suggesting that the hard part of streaming is the hours outside streaming. Although his caveat of streaming depleting his social battery is 100% true - bro has no mandatory hours - stream less ez - earn hundreds of thousands a year instead of millions. You control your hours, you're to blame if you're overworked.
I think for me it's Hasan who's from one of the richer families in Turkey, and he hasn't had to work a hard job in his life. Saying streaming is the hardest job when there are people who have to live paycheck to paycheck or put their lives on the line is very entitled.
Add on: Obviously, I dont know him personally, so his social battery may be smaller than most, but if it's so bad, why not change? I'll tell you, money is too good. A large majority of us dont have the luxury to work a job we like and get payed well, hell most of the time the job sucks and you can barely eat.
Stanz was a night shift shelf stocker too!!! Brooooo let’s goooo! I worked 2 years night shift at Walmart, and I literally just mindlessly moved shit while listening to podcasts and music, and fucked around with my best friend. Like the job sucked overall, and the management was awful, but in terms of mental stress?? Negligible. I got carpal tunnel from that shit though, which sucked ass.
The worst I did was 2 years of childcare though. I worked with various age groups, from 4 to 17.
It. Was. HELL. It’s what taught me that I actually hate kids and I never ever want to have children 💀
Also, Hasan has a pretty unique experience, because he covers news and politics, he has a *massive* amount of haters who quite literally doxx him and send him and his family death threats, with extreme frequency. That’s pretty damn draining for any human I’d imagine 💀
You can put on headphones at a retail job?? Everywhere I've worked is ran by mob bosses lol
Healthcare workers looking at this *insert closed fist Arthur meme*
i think no matter what, you "job" whatever it is, wether you love it or not will drain you and feel terrible some days, but i dont see a point in saying someone has a harder job than others. everyone no matter what you do you will feel like your job is just too much to do somedays.
Well I think another very very hard thing about retail work is that it is so boring and there's a huge stigma around those kinds of jobs and they don't pay well. Like yeah streaming can be hard but at least Hasan is rich it does make having to do something soul draining easier to swallow. It's very easy to get caught in a cycle of depression with retail work, thinking it's your only option and kind of letting your mental health deteriorate. At the end of the day though I don't think comparing struggles like dick sizes is very productive and all struggles should be taken seriously
Im sure its not going to be popular to say but this video sucks, and its very frustrating to see people drama bait but excuse themselves by saying later Ill correct the record. All you are doing by saying that is admitting that you are about to poison the well... There is a reason why thats such an insidious tactic.
Once people are locked in their minds become extremely hard to change. I guarantee that on this video just like every other video that took the comments entirely out of context, regardless of if they corrected themselves later, there will be plenty of people responding who will absolutely refuse to accept the possibility that: 'streaming drains your social battery more than most jobs' is actually a pretty reasonable thing to say. You showed them something out of context, they made up their minds, and any attempt to correct it is now an uphill battle.
If you want to criticize Hasan its not hard, you can watch full streams on his Ukraine takes, even the most recent ones, and there is _plenty_ to tear in to in full context, but this? This is the worst kind of trash, spread by the worst kind of people, (I mean, getting _anything_ from keemstar is just morally repugnant. There is no justification for diving in to that never ending cesspit.) and I expect Stanz and others to do better than profit off it at anyones expense whether its Hasan or anyone else. Honesty about what you are doing in no way absolves you for doing it.
i imagine streaming is like being a fulltime cashier except you don’t get any breaks, and if all your customers followed you on instagram and were in a groupchat together talking about you.
xqc just taking the clip and face value and also telling hasan to work a sales job not knowing hasan has worked a sales job is the most xqc thing he could have done
9:02 I think you mean paramedic, not fireman...
XQC be like “try a sales job” and Hassan literally said “I worked sales” like 1 minute before the clip