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КОМЕНТАРІ • 152

  • @adyaarora862
    @adyaarora862 9 місяців тому +725

    they're covering dramageddon

  • @GenerationalDisappointment
    @GenerationalDisappointment 9 місяців тому +332

    Even with how insane it sounds, this video still undersells the complete mayhem that was happening at that time.

    • @stanz
      @stanz  9 місяців тому +33

      😂

    • @devonwilliams2423
      @devonwilliams2423 9 місяців тому +11

      I’m half way through but I hope they eventually get to how incredibly dangerous James Charles is and how he has reached out to underage fans countless times and even self admitted he “couldn’t help it” and likes young looking guys
      Dude needs to be locked up

    • @scarletsjazz6472
      @scarletsjazz6472 8 місяців тому

      this video made me so grateful I was a fan of beauty youtube back then and experienced all of this in real time 😭

    • @dkrodegeb
      @dkrodegeb 4 місяці тому +1

      NOTHING WILL EVER COMPARE

  • @beckgh7270
    @beckgh7270 9 місяців тому +175

    stanz describing the tati and james charles drama as “tradwife vs sex pest” is hysterical

  • @darksideofthemood
    @darksideofthemood 9 місяців тому +50

    Omg the straight men are discovering our Roman Empire 😭😭😭

    • @stanz
      @stanz  9 місяців тому +8

      😂

  • @torijeri
    @torijeri 9 місяців тому +135

    this whole time in youtube history feels like a fever dream. It’s so wild how big this gets AFTER this. like this is truly just the beginning.
    there’s a reason it’s called Dramaggedon 2. (first one was Laura Lee) and this one is 10x bigger than that one was

    • @doobzsalam1847
      @doobzsalam1847 9 місяців тому +4

      Wait…..what’s a Laura lee?

    • @torijeri
      @torijeri 9 місяців тому +1

      @@doobzsalam1847 she was another makeup youtuber who’s racist comments were found by others and then it escalate to like a feud between her and Jeffree Star and Manny MUA was there too and other people. Her “apology” to it was what really made it go viral though because it was so bad. It was big at the time but dramaggedon 2 really outdid it

    • @corbinbrier0
      @corbinbrier0 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@doobzsalam1847She is another beauty content creator who had a huge drama at the time as well.

  • @LordlyTV
    @LordlyTV 9 місяців тому +107

    AINT NO WAY YALL DREW CAT EARS ON SHANE DAWSON

    • @torijeri
      @torijeri 9 місяців тому +2

      honestly if he’s gonna show stanz those videos there should definitely be a content warning cus it’s BAD.

    • @doobzsalam1847
      @doobzsalam1847 9 місяців тому +4

      @@torijeriI watched the whole Shane Dawson vod and I gotta say it’s gonna have full TW’s

    • @torijeri
      @torijeri 9 місяців тому +1

      @@doobzsalam1847 agreed

  • @Mackieee
    @Mackieee 9 місяців тому +302

    I was in the thick of this drama at the time as a viewer of all these people
    I really don’t think you pedalled how insane this was at that moment online. It was absolute carnage. It literally propelled the careers of at least a hundred different “tea” youtube channels for YEARS. Every day there was some fucking new spin or new details. All masterminded by Jeffree Star who turned out to be this absolutely psychopath, billionaire, barbie-esque villain.
    The makeup community and the people in it were massive, and now they all had to navigate who was friends with who in all of this and there was so much fucking spin off drama that it was actually so insane but so carcrash you couldn’t look away.
    Not to mention this wasn’t even the first drama series in that community around that time.
    The reason Tati got all hippydippy and religious is because after James clapped back at her, she went through the MILL. She got hella cancelled, as the one person who had been an OG in this community since the beginning and never put a foot wrong, to now be cancelled and be hated on so hard online when she knew Jeffree and Shane had done this to give them an edge in their palette release…. that she had driven James Charles to such a dark place on their behalf… losing him all his industry friends, brand deals, labelling him as a predator… (even if that did end up true later, not to anyones knowledge at this time). She ended up being quite unwell with it all, moved home, had to take a year off.. her and her husband were also trying to have a baby at the time after years of difficulty but due to the stress they had to take a step back, so she was a little fragile when she finally returned.

    • @doobzsalam1847
      @doobzsalam1847 9 місяців тому +18

      This has barley anything to do with what your saying but all I can see is Jeffrey star playing a bond villain and those UA-cam thumbnails where they take a screenshot from the trailer and put WOKE over it……I want to see this world

    • @Mackieee
      @Mackieee 9 місяців тому +1

      @@doobzsalam1847 he definitely is a real life bond villain

    • @doobzsalam1847
      @doobzsalam1847 9 місяців тому

      @@Mackieee I can just see him doing a slow clap

    • @nocause5395
      @nocause5395 9 місяців тому

      Then, because it wasn’t just one case it was multiple and it was a certain type of actions that he repeated multiple times

    • @Mackieee
      @Mackieee 9 місяців тому +8

      @@nocause5395 yeah James really could have taken the W from this dramageddon situation and ran with it but decided to be a creep instead multiple times

  • @MaddyRose1998
    @MaddyRose1998 9 місяців тому +41

    It’s impossible to overstate the choke hold Shane Dawson and Jeffery Star had on the community. They were absolutely beloved. I lost my MIND when Tati dropped the second video and watched Shane’s meltdown reaction.

    • @ReelToScreen
      @ReelToScreen Місяць тому

      I'm so glad their true colours came to the forefront because they were not a great influence on the youth

  • @enseventealp
    @enseventealp 9 місяців тому +124

    I was terminally online for a number of years back in the day but stuck purely to gaming and let's play circles. And only ever learnt about other circles on the internet through the PDS. I love these deep dives Stanz goes through. Helps me catch up without trawling through random videos

    • @datpotatoes4005
      @datpotatoes4005 9 місяців тому +3

      I've followed Pyrocynical for years, so I remember back in the day hearing about random drama almost every day probably.
      Nowadays I don't really hear about drama things, nor do I so care about them.
      These videos are interesting nonetheless. Not sure why...

    • @adamnielson42
      @adamnielson42 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@datpotatoes4005to me i think its because Stanz doesn't have any preformed opinions. He's just like us, finding out for the first time. It's as much us finding out what happened as it is us seeing how he'll react to it.

    • @datpotatoes4005
      @datpotatoes4005 9 місяців тому +2

      @@adamnielson42 Good point.

  • @joedirtwo8957
    @joedirtwo8957 9 місяців тому +36

    “the village people for lgbtq+” might be the funniest thing he’s ever said and he has no clue why

    • @dkrodegeb
      @dkrodegeb 4 місяці тому

      LMAO! I just started the video and this made me so much more excited!!

    • @dkrodegeb
      @dkrodegeb 4 місяці тому +1

      Also probably because the village people were already SUPER gay

  • @Tchan1337
    @Tchan1337 9 місяців тому +68

    James's second response was so good people forgot about his first attempt 😂

    • @connermcintosh4322
      @connermcintosh4322 9 місяців тому +9

      THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING! Lol we missed an important chapter here haha

  • @SimplyMattis
    @SimplyMattis 9 місяців тому +14

    I have no interest in make-up, but this is one of the goat Internet dramas

  • @colelarsen-cj-8952
    @colelarsen-cj-8952 9 місяців тому +56

    Tati, James, Shane, and Jeffree imploding was like UA-cam's version of Avengers: Civil War

  • @Landopedia
    @Landopedia 9 місяців тому +43

    I like these retrospectives. It’s nice to be able to go through “news stories” with all of the facts to understand why stuff turned out the way they did. Maybe you can do some non- content creator stories eventually, like when Toyotas were suddenly accelerating and then it stopped happening

  • @ComfyMarius
    @ComfyMarius 9 місяців тому +10

    God I hope you watched the deleted D'Angelo Wallace trilogy on this! Especially the Shane part because holy cow. I can't really think of an exposé more powerful than that one. Let's hope it will come up in part two :)

  • @jaqsre
    @jaqsre 9 місяців тому +15

    this shit was actually insane. it was my first huge drama and i was GLUED

  • @jblen
    @jblen 9 місяців тому +25

    Im loving divemas. A lot of these I know the channels, sometimes I've even seen a few videos, but I never got involved in the drama and these videos are super clear and digestible because stanz knows almost nothing at all.

  • @retromei
    @retromei 9 місяців тому +20

    The way he's been totally able to rebrand on tiktok pains me, no one knows/cares ab what he did

  • @yeturs69420
    @yeturs69420 9 місяців тому +23

    Sister slay, you go groomer!

  • @PuzzlesPuzzleton
    @PuzzlesPuzzleton 9 місяців тому +2

    9:54 “the Village People for LGBTQ+” is a bit redundant
    If you haven’t read or thought about the lyrics to YMCA, you definitely should 🏳️‍🌈

  • @jonathanarcher5356
    @jonathanarcher5356 9 місяців тому +5

    Caanths, can we get a deepdive on the RoosterTeeth (and sub brands) history and saga. From start, drama, abuse scandal, Gavin calling out the app etc. A closer circle to Stanz and friends, and insane.

    • @inkarabbit9780
      @inkarabbit9780 9 місяців тому +1

      RvB was such a good series, its such a shame that the channel had so many problems alongside the content

  • @tydeda
    @tydeda 9 місяців тому +10

    Fuck i love this series. Insane to be sitting here and getting nostalgic about just a couple years ago though

  • @katziyin
    @katziyin 9 місяців тому +9

    I freakin' love divemas omg. I hope we get another divemas next year. This is amazing.

  • @Allisonlikescats
    @Allisonlikescats 9 місяців тому +5

    Honestly Tati was on the ball. She probably knew more than what she said originally

  • @Jross1148
    @Jross1148 5 місяців тому +2

    Answer: the UA-cam channel Shane (Shane Dawson) who lost 4.3 million subscribers going from 23.2 million to 19 million subscribers

  • @cedarmay4245
    @cedarmay4245 9 місяців тому +5

    And at the end of the day none of them really gained any big repercussions that stopped them from still working, like it’s mind boggling

  • @Maziemaze16
    @Maziemaze16 9 місяців тому +4

    I remember this and I was a viewer of all 3 of them before and during the drama. Every other day one of them was uploading a video disproving the others previous tea or adding more and it was chaos. The drama channels were emerging and you couldn’t escape it. As for people like me who were true viewers for the make-up, we got really sick of it because it just went on and on. We watched as these artist we loved and looked up to ruined each others reputation. And when it was all said and done I think a lot of us unsubscribed to everyone who was even slightly involved because we now saw how they truly were and after seeing all the secrets revealed and not knowing who to believe it really made us not care to watch any of them anymore and just move on to smaller more wholesome artist. Imo

  • @johnzenc1984
    @johnzenc1984 9 місяців тому +4

    When narsissists get involved with psychopaths.

  • @Graham1289
    @Graham1289 9 місяців тому +10

    Goated series, such a trip down memory lane.

  • @Spacyjacy
    @Spacyjacy 9 місяців тому +3

    James made a terrible apology video first and made the good one after pewdiepie gave him tips

  • @moresnqp
    @moresnqp 9 місяців тому +4

    these videos are the perfect content. like the best way to do drama content. ty caanths for the wonderful content and stanz for your lovely glasses

  • @roguevirgo902
    @roguevirgo902 9 місяців тому +2

    He better have used D’Angelo Wallace’s video about Shane Dawson. It’s absolutely amazing journalism

  • @zachariahjose5622
    @zachariahjose5622 9 місяців тому +9

    Merry divemas everyone

  • @Maria_745
    @Maria_745 9 місяців тому +7

    Watching Stanz react to this for the first time is truly a gift

  • @piknos3381
    @piknos3381 9 місяців тому +1

    James being a sexual predator is fine until he promotes a competitor. Then all bets are off. Before that though he's a perfect lil boy, would never hurt a flea. Watch those ads though Charles.

  • @monkeyking7279
    @monkeyking7279 9 місяців тому +4

    I would be mad that there's so many cliffhangers if we weren't getting daily uploads

  • @noelpans
    @noelpans 9 місяців тому +2

    I love when my favorite white boy with a bisexual wife reacts to gay drama 🙌

  • @desmondhume
    @desmondhume 9 місяців тому +3

    truly so funny to make a 40-minute video about a gummy betrayal. and you did it at my birthday dinner !!

    • @Allisonlikescats
      @Allisonlikescats 9 місяців тому

      Truly it was more than about the Gummy vitamins. She was just fed up with James

  • @kayr6688
    @kayr6688 9 місяців тому +4

    okay divemas needs to continue beyond the adsense on steroid time cause this series is fun af

  • @tylerrodenberg8243
    @tylerrodenberg8243 9 місяців тому +2

    Honestly didn’t know wtf was happening during this time on UA-cam and couldn’t be bothered to actually indulge so it was fun to see a breakdown

  • @lil1taly
    @lil1taly 9 місяців тому +3

    funny when jeffery calls james out, while keeping a finger in davhi vanity

    • @FizzyCape
      @FizzyCape 9 місяців тому +1

      As someone out of the loop on all this drama, hearing the names Jeffrey Starr and Davhi vanity just makes me very confused by the fact that either of them remained relevant past 2008. I thought both of them disappeared with MySpace. I legitimately don’t think I’ve heard of either of them in the last 15 years.

    • @carnuatus
      @carnuatus 9 місяців тому +1

      And with his relationship with his ex being suss af, to say the least.

  • @chiptherapy2983
    @chiptherapy2983 9 місяців тому +3

    Genuinely loving the cliffhangers at the end fr feels like watching a tv show or marvel post credit scene ass feeling

  • @chlli
    @chlli 9 місяців тому +3

    Stanz seems like he would know who killed Lincoln

  • @Lucio20
    @Lucio20 9 місяців тому +3

    These videos are genuinely great, huge credit to Caanths - bro better be getting a Christmas bonus for this

  • @starteck11
    @starteck11 9 місяців тому +3

    This dive series is great. Rewatching and seeing Stanz too drama I witnessed live as a viewer is great.

  • @_NeonGhost_
    @_NeonGhost_ 9 місяців тому +2

    It says alot about the type of person she is that she was fine with everything he was doing until she was screwed

  • @Carlitosc23
    @Carlitosc23 9 місяців тому +2

    Been binge watching your videos stanz and I'm enjoying every single one of them😎🤙🏼

  • @audrey3155
    @audrey3155 8 місяців тому +1

    this was SUCH a moment. this really takes me back

  • @jrdnanitsua
    @jrdnanitsua 9 місяців тому +2

    Canths you fuck, I NEED THIS NEXT VIDEO (much love caanths acc love u)

  • @emiilyshe
    @emiilyshe 3 місяці тому

    it doesn’t actually add anything to the story, but i wish he would have mentioned the role fucking pewdiepie played in rescuing james charles. like what an insane timeline we were living in.

  • @jackstv4047
    @jackstv4047 9 місяців тому +1

    And how will this relate to Sugar Pine 7 😂

  • @softcoffeewhispers
    @softcoffeewhispers 9 місяців тому +3

    oh my worlds are colliding

  • @juanruiz7876
    @juanruiz7876 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m loving the divemas 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @carnuatus
    @carnuatus 9 місяців тому

    The Zara Larsson thing is kinda funny to me because... As much as he can say whatever about these DMs, the fact that he dmed at all makes it feel like he's shooting his shot and testing the waters to see if the dude is bi. It's different to DM him that hes hot than to just comment it on a pic. Idk and the Zara Larsson thing was partly a joke and a public one. So if the dude felt uncomfy about it he could ignore it and I think @-ing him would make him feel less cornered. But that's me.

  • @TheSanndwichh
    @TheSanndwichh 9 місяців тому +1

    Putting Stanz on a cliffhanger for the reveal he’s been teasing the whole video is a power move lmao

  • @jsostick
    @jsostick 9 місяців тому +1

    Another day, another victory for the og's....

  • @gloomy_glamour
    @gloomy_glamour 9 місяців тому

    As someone who doesnt know anything about James Charles im 18 minutes into this video and I'm like whoa James is so cool. I cant wait to see how this is going to be messed up haha

  • @hellotide
    @hellotide 9 місяців тому +2

    anotha day anotha divemas

  • @lalipopz90
    @lalipopz90 9 місяців тому +1

    Watching this live was something else😅😂

  • @undeadmatrix4
    @undeadmatrix4 9 місяців тому

    I only know James Charles from Minecraft Mondays, so this is super interesting

  • @martinozanchi5728
    @martinozanchi5728 9 місяців тому

    Man i am seriously so curious about the next vid. At the time i wasn't into english youtube at all and only heard bad things about james charles through collateral means. i am literally stanz right now.

  • @meredithdurfy2337
    @meredithdurfy2337 9 місяців тому

    I would say James, he’s at his job but I also don’t think that you decide to be bisexual.

  • @gdroid2838
    @gdroid2838 9 місяців тому

    Divemas is absolutely incredible lol. I'm learning so much shit I don't need to.

  • @JoulesTK
    @JoulesTK 9 місяців тому +1

    Fucking with the series, been binging

  • @knackigbrot
    @knackigbrot 9 місяців тому +1

    So much drama. Can we cover a comedy channel next?

    • @stanz
      @stanz  9 місяців тому

      Sugar Pine 7 soon!!

  • @sadmermaid
    @sadmermaid 9 місяців тому +1

    And you did it at my birthday dinner!

  • @TheBensonMalone
    @TheBensonMalone 9 місяців тому

    noooo stanz the phoenix suns are cringe, mavs all the way baby!

  • @UncleMike69
    @UncleMike69 2 місяці тому

    The eighthead goes crazy on stanz

  • @BlazingInf3rn0
    @BlazingInf3rn0 9 місяців тому +1

    This is incredible. I love this series.

  • @miraclo3
    @miraclo3 9 місяців тому

    Watching this is actively giving me brain damage. I have to stop.

  • @artskies101
    @artskies101 9 місяців тому

    Didnt CreepShowArtist rival this drop? I dont remember but i was actually fucking flabbergasted with that shit)

    • @artskies101
      @artskies101 9 місяців тому

      Like I don't know what I was expecting but it was absolutely not that

  • @wojtek1765
    @wojtek1765 9 місяців тому

    Idk why I find it frustrating how stanz k ow hardy any internet drama 😂😂😂

  • @Rice8Me_yum
    @Rice8Me_yum 9 місяців тому +1

    This is so good. I love the deep dives

  • @txmothy
    @txmothy 9 місяців тому

    not the cat drawing on Shane Dawson’s face 💀💀

  • @ashleyb3527
    @ashleyb3527 9 місяців тому

    "That might suggest sexual misconduct"
    "Excuse me 🤨"

  • @72erys14
    @72erys14 9 місяців тому

    bye sister & sidemen disstracks came around the same time what a time we were living

  • @rivstoner
    @rivstoner 9 місяців тому

    I hate the fact that you made shane dawson the cat on the wanted poster thing

  • @Emrader00
    @Emrader00 9 місяців тому

    I scrubbed this from my brain and forgot most of this 😂

  • @thecyberer2468
    @thecyberer2468 9 місяців тому +1

    This is an incredible series

  • @walak6832
    @walak6832 9 місяців тому

    Omg tomorrow is about to be epic..

  • @chillarypuff
    @chillarypuff 9 місяців тому

    This drama changed my brain chemistry

  • @yosos2
    @yosos2 9 місяців тому

    I fucking love divemas

  • @pimpymcswaggins208
    @pimpymcswaggins208 9 місяців тому

    Daily dives?! This is so exciting

  • @naethaenielgriffin
    @naethaenielgriffin 9 місяців тому

    I'm loving the longer content on the main channel

  • @zazberry
    @zazberry 9 місяців тому

    Such a goated series Caanths!

  • @MMMForShort
    @MMMForShort 9 місяців тому

    Bye sister is crazy

  • @Imagine.11
    @Imagine.11 9 місяців тому

    I survived the drama alert era

  • @shibuya4189
    @shibuya4189 9 місяців тому

    God the cliffhangers are amazing

  • @EPiCmajo
    @EPiCmajo 9 місяців тому

    I love caanths deepdives

  • @mushymuffin8118
    @mushymuffin8118 9 місяців тому

    omg i love dramageddon

  • @theramblinglobster
    @theramblinglobster 9 місяців тому +1

    oh i cant fucking WAIT for the rest of this James Charles dive AND for the shane dawson. its gonna be INSANEEEEEEEEEE

  • @I_W_B_P
    @I_W_B_P 9 місяців тому

    first 1000 views

  • @LtCdrXander
    @LtCdrXander 9 місяців тому

    I dunno

  • @TinyTim_TV
    @TinyTim_TV 9 місяців тому

    Yayyyyy

  • @menproductions4941
    @menproductions4941 9 місяців тому

    Love these videos stanz

  • @coasterthekid8867
    @coasterthekid8867 9 місяців тому +3

    OK clearly canths is a little confused because there has not been one single case of James Charles, talking to an underage individual where it has been proven that he knew about their age. This is important, because at the time he was getting constantly hit up by underage people, pretending to be 18 so they could be the one to expose James Charles. But to this day, there is no example where it has been proven that he knew about their age, and continued to pursue them.

    • @squigglybob
      @squigglybob 9 місяців тому +4

      there's been at least 5

  • @DracoBeamish
    @DracoBeamish 9 місяців тому

    1

  • @hannahbalkovec
    @hannahbalkovec 6 місяців тому

    Binging these deep dives is just a reminder that nothing really happens to UA-camrs who do awful shit, especially white, male youtubers. People are talking about how after all of this there were no repercussions but Black women had been calling out Jeffree Star for years at this point and a lot of those same people kept supporting him. His products aren’t even that good and there’s plenty of indie brands that make cool makeup without their CEO being a trash human being.

  • @Pinkgobi
    @Pinkgobi 9 місяців тому +2

    Damn i didnt realize how homophobic tati's og video was

  • @papasalvo
    @papasalvo 9 місяців тому

    Ok ok but i will contest that everyones a little gay its more of a spectrum honestly.
    Have u as a dude or woman ever looked at another person of the same gender and thought or said aloud "wow their really [insert synonm for attractive]" thats a little gay
    If u havent ur either insecure and unable to objectively quantify that someone of the same gender has atteactive features if not to u but to the opposite gender. Or ur one of those weird "super straights" thats pretty cringe.
    Now that being said that does not mean anyone should try and convince someone that they are fully homosexual thats something people need to adventure into and experiment with at their own pace if they think theres a possibilty their sexuality isnt what society would expect

    • @sadmermaid
      @sadmermaid 9 місяців тому

      Google the Kinsey scale

    • @ActuallyAnanya
      @ActuallyAnanya 9 місяців тому +4

      First, there's a difference between someone being able to acknowledge aesthetic attractiveness in someone and being attracted TO them. Like aromantic asexual people are also able to acknowledge when someone is objectively attractive or charming, that doesn't mean they are attracted to them.
      Being bisexual myself, my attraction to different genders has changed throughout my life. HOWEVER, saying that absolutely everyone (who isn't just insecure in their sexuality) is at least a little gay is problematic. Mostly because, by applying the idea that "nobody can be 100% straight because everyone's sexuality is on a spectrum", you are also invalidating people who identify as completely, 100% homosexual. This can be very dangerous. I have seen straight men pretending to be progressive use this exact rhetoric to say lesbians should give them a chance. Please be careful with comments like this.

    • @carnuatus
      @carnuatus 9 місяців тому

      Yeah but that's not the same as James saying he can sleep with someone who is straight "because he's a celebrity."

    • @MrCastroal
      @MrCastroal 9 місяців тому

      My car and shoes look really nice, I guess i have to have to smash now.