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    Sonic CD's LOST Level - The Mystery Of R2 | HiddenBlocks - Tallest Flash (Relic Ruins Zone Unused and Lost Content)
    Sonic CD HiddenBlocks on R2 (Relic Ruins)! Hey everybody and welcome back to a series where we play out the entirety of a game and see a bit of the cool cut, lost, and unused content that can be found along the way. This episode, we're gonna be playing Sonic CD for the Sega CD and looking at cool cut content and lost and unused secrets from the cut zone R2, or Relic Ruins Zone!
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  • @DarkVampireDee
    @DarkVampireDee 6 років тому +187

    I'm going to give my two cent here. First of all, the name Relic Ruin wasn't a official name, fans has named it and been calling it for years. Second, some has say that the levels has bits of graphics other zones, the wacky workbench past secret room, the background of stardust speedway past, all revolving around the Greek ruin theme like Marble zone. The D.A. Garden music (the JP version), some say that it might have been for R2 music, possibly for a Past or Good Future as it sounded more peaceful. Hope this clears up

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому +18

      Interesting, never heard of the Wacky Workbench room, and I know Relic Ruins is unofficial lol, I even said that in the video

    • @Scroteydada
      @Scroteydada 6 років тому +8

      Isn't Quartz Quadrant basically Marble zone? It has Caterkillers, the moving surface was re used in mania's lava reef which also takes ideas from marble, the boss tries to drop things on you idk

    • @SantiagoMonroy5
      @SantiagoMonroy5 6 років тому +8

      D. A garden uses cd audio, the past songs uses FM Audio

    • @TheGavtel
      @TheGavtel 6 років тому +4

      I'd guess the D.A. Garden's JP theme was the Present version, rather than the Past or Good Future version due to 1:33 into it sounding like it would probably be used in a Bad Future theme.

    • @BouncekDeLemos
      @BouncekDeLemos 6 років тому +1

      It was PCM iicr, the FM was used for sound effects. Past songs definitely don't use any DA sound.

  • @necnix5313
    @necnix5313 6 років тому +17

    Rainbow Ruins zone. That's what i think it was. First, it fits the level naming scheme: someone clearly had a thing for alliteration, and this fits into that perfectly. Plus, it fits better with the concept art, with the rainbows all over the place. However, we have no clue as to what the letters used would be. So it's probably wrong.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому +3

      While it does kinda fit with the same naming trend as the official rounds, it could've easily been called something like Colorful Canyon or Troubled Temple

    • @boogiesarcade
      @boogiesarcade Рік тому

      I feel like the concept art would have been the good future

    • @guywhoexists6
      @guywhoexists6 9 місяців тому

      5 years later, we now know what the zones name was, dubious depths.

    • @Jenb13171
      @Jenb13171 3 місяці тому

      It’s dubious depths.good guess tho

  • @TheMasonGamer
    @TheMasonGamer 6 років тому +34

    Those songs were confirmed by the creator to be fan-made remixes of Alex Lee - Take it. Mystery solved

    • @jalex777
      @jalex777 6 років тому +1

      yep

    • @RaCUtricolor
      @RaCUtricolor 5 років тому +5

      As far as I'm aware, not even fan made, they're just pre-existing Versions and Remixes of the song.

    • @matthewlloyd365
      @matthewlloyd365 3 роки тому

      It's true, there is a video of someone unlocking r2 and the music is played in the background

    • @TheMasonGamer
      @TheMasonGamer 3 роки тому +1

      This guy thinks he's a comedian

    • @Mr.F2005
      @Mr.F2005 3 роки тому

      @@matthewlloyd365 you know the "mods" exist, right?

  • @deicide7274
    @deicide7274 6 років тому +98

    When you play sonic 3 to much till the point you call marble zone marble garden zone

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому +20

      LMAO true

    • @angryboi595
      @angryboi595 4 роки тому +5

      Oof. I can relate

    • @almir-chan9570
      @almir-chan9570 2 роки тому +1

      Is it possible they're related in some way?

    • @MatthewScrap1011
      @MatthewScrap1011 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@almir-chan9570 Yes They have marble and they are annoying

    • @almir-chan9570
      @almir-chan9570 2 роки тому +3

      @@MatthewScrap1011 always use to think Marble Garden and Marble Zone where the same just a different part of the zone

  • @mattedg8095
    @mattedg8095 6 років тому +24

    FYI, Sonic CD splits things differently.
    Firstly, Zones are called Rounds, hence R starting before the data name
    Secondly, Acts are called Zones, causing people to wonder why the word 'Act' isn't in the game and just assume it's used.

  • @Larry
    @Larry 6 років тому +88

    I really like the name "Marble Gardens" they totally should have gone with that originally.

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому +19

      Yeah that's why I instinctively say it at this point, always forget there's 2 "marble" zones

    • @ZiggyTheHamster
      @ZiggyTheHamster 6 років тому +3

      Whenever I run into you on UA-cam, I know I've stumbled upon some quality content.

    • @RodrigoBadin
      @RodrigoBadin 6 років тому +6

      Except Sonic CD uses a naming convention to use the same first Letter on both words.

    • @jeremyabbott4537
      @jeremyabbott4537 6 років тому +5

      I think they should use that if they ever make a sequel to Sonic 2.

    • @kylesatwon1134
      @kylesatwon1134 6 років тому +3

      Marble Garden was a Zone in Sonic 3...

  • @greenD7244
    @greenD7244 6 років тому +6

    Actually, the desert enemies were for a zone Taxman wanted to add to the 2011 port of the game, named Desert Dazzle.

  • @ahmedalhamadi1282
    @ahmedalhamadi1282 6 років тому +156

    Sounds like the sequel to sonic R

  • @Loader2K1
    @Loader2K1 6 років тому +118

    One quick correction: the "R" in the game's code stands for "Round." Also, one thing you forgot to mention is some of the unidentified parts of the Little Planet as seen on it in DA Garden mode.

    • @codinggamingfun4566
      @codinggamingfun4566 6 років тому +1

      Loader2K1 what about DA CLUB

    • @Loader2K1
      @Loader2K1 6 років тому

      Huh?

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому +10

      Yeah. "Round" is what they called Zones and "Zones" are what they called Acts. Why do you think the message "Sonic/Tails made a good future in Zone 1/2/3 came up when he passed the signpost?

    • @maryoconnell8765
      @maryoconnell8765 4 роки тому

      Round 2 zone act1

    • @cay7809
      @cay7809 2 роки тому

      @@maryoconnell8765 R2Y1A

  • @Explosivebarrelsman
    @Explosivebarrelsman 6 років тому +29

    4:37
    Past themes weren't CD quality. There's no way the theme is real, so the name is probably bogus too.

    • @badcatalex
      @badcatalex 6 років тому +2

      Explosivebarrelsman they would be decompressed

    • @noobguy57
      @noobguy57 6 років тому +10

      @@badcatalexdecompressed has nothing to do with it. They were made on the CD'S PCM chip.

    • @RaCUtricolor
      @RaCUtricolor 5 років тому +9

      It's fake, it's a version of Alex Lee's Take It. There's like 10 separate official versions though, and I can't rememeber which one this is. I believe this one is called the Kleptomaniacs Remix though.

    • @jameslozada3326
      @jameslozada3326 5 років тому

      I Think you’re RIGHT. and Surprisingly WRONG at the Same Time! There are No CD Quality P Mixes of Zones but according to the New Prototype of Sonic CD that had been Just Discovered, Prototype 12/4/1992, There’s an Actual CD Quality P Mix for Palmtree Panic. Or in this Case “Salad Plains” This Proves the Fact that R2 has a CD Quality P Mix!

    • @gangweedstudios
      @gangweedstudios 4 роки тому +1

      salad plains

  • @nerples1149
    @nerples1149 6 років тому +18

    I imagine that the sketch with the rainbow bg is of the good future version. The cut ending animation section of R2 has a bluish hue to the ground, while the sketch shows it as being brown. Other reasons for me thinking the sketch is a good future sketch is the rainbow

    • @jesterssketchbook
      @jesterssketchbook 6 років тому +1

      aw dang - i was hoping it was called Rainbow Relic Zone! damn, i have to photoshop this immeddiately lol

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому

      It was the ruined city in the OVA, right?

  • @AGwolf2097
    @AGwolf2097 6 років тому +8

    R2 has been elusive for nearly the full 20 year history of sonic game research. Short of any of the original development staff directly coming forward and outlining any unused/cut content, I don't think we'll ever really learn anything more about it. Even in the earliest known prototype (510) doesn't even have anything, iirc. Beyond that one developer diary video that showed the rainbow waterfalls, and the handful of sprites that Taxman posted 4 or 5 years ago, there has literally been no other revelations about it. I've always figured it was cut pretty early.

    • @chillvibes375
      @chillvibes375 6 років тому

      AGwolf2097 it should come back for mania 2. It was real u see the opening intro with the cut banik coming from the ruin area. Taxman should tell sega to bring it back. Put rainbows and everything.

    • @soaringstars314
      @soaringstars314 2 роки тому

      We're learning more about it 👀

  • @Type3Diabeto
    @Type3Diabeto 6 років тому +23

    All of the sampled tracks are from various takes of Alex Lee's "Take It," despite how similar all but the past sound to Sonic CD

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому

      Yeah, mentioned that right before I played it

    • @delatomvione9943
      @delatomvione9943 6 років тому +1

      5:36 Sampled from Farley Jackmaster Funk - Love Can't Turn Around

    • @pepitopacquiao
      @pepitopacquiao 6 років тому

      that sample tracks were fanmade

    • @metaridleyakathecunninggod1006
      @metaridleyakathecunninggod1006 6 років тому

      +Francisco Sanchez Mercado Uh...what? They were all made by Alex Lee.

    • @RaCUtricolor
      @RaCUtricolor 5 років тому

      @@pepitopacquiao They're not fan made. They're not Sonic tracks at all. They are different versions of a song called Take It by Alex Lee. They're the Mighty Version, Marc Version, and Kleptomaniacs Remix I believe.

  • @nameless646
    @nameless646 2 роки тому +2

    The overall impression that I got of "R2" is that its theme was similar to Marble Garden Zone in Sonic 3.

  • @louis_epic_888
    @louis_epic_888 Рік тому +2

    hey! just wanna point out some newer found info: first of all, the d.a garden track in the 2011 mobile port is confirmed to be the r2 present theme. we dont have any of the past remnants anywhere, however in the sonic wave album, there are 2 tracks, "techno power remix" and "sonic stream". these songs contain what we can sort of expect from the bad/good future songs. also, the real name confirmed by 2 developers is "dubious depths". also, the r stands for round

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the comment! Lots of people are coming in with new info; what's in this video is what was available at the time, but I'm super happy to see the story finally coming together after all this time!

    • @louis_epic_888
      @louis_epic_888 Рік тому +1

      @@tallestflash I completely agree! Every asset, info and and line of code is helping us get closer and closer to the truth of dubious depths! Maybe one day we might even be able to play it!

  • @TheMasonGamer
    @TheMasonGamer 6 років тому +5

    FINALLY someone is talking about Relic Ruins (R2)

  • @YTChannelNat
    @YTChannelNat 6 років тому +14

    6:11 So wait, you mean to tell me that the same game that contains the level "Wacky Workbench Zone" had quality standards for the level design? Furthermore, I'm expected to believe that "R2" didn't meet said standards? There are 2 possible explanations here: either this guy actually has no clue why the level was cut and just had to confabulate an answer out of thin air because he didn't feel that "I don't really know for sure" was an answer we'd settle for (he dodged a bullet if this is true; this fanbase has no chill and you know it), *or* R2 was secretly the worst sonic level to ever be created and the developers felt the need to return it to hell before they even got to the 512 prototype.

    • @mattedg8095
      @mattedg8095 6 років тому

      Sega hired artists to make a rendition of each zone in Sonic 1 for Sonic CD.
      Either Yuji Naka or Takashi Izuka said that they were unhappy with the design of Round 2 so they cut the Round.
      I believe it's a lie.

    • @STikER326
      @STikER326 6 років тому +5

      Matt EDG, WUT? Yuji Naka or Takashi Iizuka? Naka was working on Sonic 2 at the other side of the globe at the time, and Iizuka wasn't even around (his first Sonic work is Sonic 3's levels)

    • @kylesatwon1134
      @kylesatwon1134 6 років тому +2

      By quality standards, they probably meant things like the way the level looked and the music not fitting. The level design could've been the best ever, but the level itself wasn't really that great.

    • @kylesatwon1134
      @kylesatwon1134 6 років тому

      Perhaps it was bland compared to the other levels...

    • @LukeMM95
      @LukeMM95 6 років тому +5

      The best guess as to why it was cut is due to rushed development. This has been an issue with Sonic games since the very beginning. It's for this reason why Sonic 2 is missing its desert level, why Sonic 3 was cut into 2 games, why Sonic Adventure ended up scrapping the more ambitious stages for more streamlined ones and why Sonic 06 was released as a buggy mess.

  • @apollo4295
    @apollo4295 6 років тому +48

    I really like the "music" for the level, but I have a hard time believing it's real (which it probably isn't, as you mentioned). For one, the "Past" music for every level in CD, unlike the other Times, were sequenced music, like on the Genesis. The one played doesn't sound like it could be feasibly played as sequenced music. Plus, all of them have a very "USA soundtrack feel to it," and I doubt the need to make a track for a scrapped level would have even been necessary by the time work on the USA soundtrack began.

    • @polar-star64
      @polar-star64 6 років тому +14

      MegaMan7045 I was just about to mention the Past music, it's 100% fake, no doubt

    • @Magoflipante85
      @Magoflipante85 6 років тому +7

      I can tell you its fake. Jalex's dumb ass fucked up and thought these fan mixes are real

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому +8

      Lol even I mentioned they were 99% fake- I just thought they sounded interesting haha

    • @codinggamingfun4566
      @codinggamingfun4566 6 років тому +1

      MegaMan7045 i was just about to say the same

    • @Luigi269
      @Luigi269 6 років тому +3

      I really hoped they were real, but i am really loving these songs.

  • @ardic23
    @ardic23 Рік тому +2

    There is one thing to remember from the video is that the Marble Garden Zone is not the Marble Zone

  • @danielmartin2116
    @danielmartin2116 6 років тому +2

    This game already constantly fascinates me with everything it had and everything it didn't. Now I'm finding out about ANOTHER unused stage (the other being Desert Dazzle). After this video is done, I'm gonna look more into this

    • @jeremiahjamesorlando
      @jeremiahjamesorlando 2 роки тому

      Actually, Desert Dazzle was made by Christian Whitehead for the 2011 remake, it wasn't initially planned for the original game. However, it WAS based off of an unused level from Sonic 2 called Dust Hill Zone.

  • @rassilontdavros3004
    @rassilontdavros3004 5 років тому +2

    Let’s see...
    R1 = Palmtree Panic = Green Hill
    R2 = ??? = Marble
    R3 = Collision Chaos = Spring Yard
    R4 = Tidal Tempest = Labyrinth
    R5 = Quartz Quadrant = ???
    R6 = Wacky Workbench = ???
    R7 = Stardust Speedway = Star Light
    R8 = Metallic Madness = Scrap Brain

    • @TinyBoxStudiosYT
      @TinyBoxStudiosYT 2 роки тому

      Hmmmm
      I think
      R5 = Quartz Quadrant = Marble Zone
      R6 = Wacky Workbench= Probably a part of metallic madness I mean look at the levels they have the colors
      So here my order
      R1 = Palmtree Panic
      R2= Quartz Quadrant
      R3= Collision Chaos
      R4= Tidal Tempest
      R5= Stardust Speedway
      R6= Wacky Workbench
      R7= Metallic Madness

  • @luizbezerra4373
    @luizbezerra4373 Рік тому +2

    Years later, now we know it was supposed to be called Dubious Depths and have JP DA Garden theme as its own

    • @thevalkyriemercenary9463
      @thevalkyriemercenary9463 Рік тому +1

      Also, the bad future theme for dubious depths is an unused song from a 1994 sonic album called techno power mix

  • @SilverTomMedia
    @SilverTomMedia 6 років тому +1

    The R2 level music, while it is amazingly funky, is actually fake. The original song is "Take It" by Alex Lee. It was also used in the Sonic 1 ROM hack _Sonic The Next Level_, where the song was recreated using the MegaDrive/Genesis soundchip.
    (I love those alternate time remixes of the song though - I've never heard those ones before!)

  • @kingdead9533
    @kingdead9533 6 років тому +28

    Hearing someone mention 06 is like Rick Rolling someone in 2018(AKA the definition of beating a dead horse)

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому +5

      Nah, the real dead meme is this: goo.gl/XWz49K

    • @thatguywhohatesyoualot5169
      @thatguywhohatesyoualot5169 6 років тому

      brick broll

    • @BlazeTaleo
      @BlazeTaleo 6 років тому

      Patrick Francher yeah he should have made fun of forces instead

    • @blackpants7385
      @blackpants7385 6 років тому

      I don't think that expression applies to meme usage.

    • @owen3666
      @owen3666 6 років тому

      Blaze Taleo it's not that bad tho

  • @chriswright6245
    @chriswright6245 Рік тому +2

    Wouldn't mind seeing whitehead doing a version of CD with Desert Dazzle and Relic Ruins included

  • @thecannedslap
    @thecannedslap 5 років тому +1

    The Tracks used are from a song called Take it and theres like 10 different remixes of it, jalex probably used a few of them and called kr *OfFiciAl sOuNdtRaCK*

  • @Devis_EDM8
    @Devis_EDM8 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video with a rare information about R2 zone from Sonic CD! Thank you!

  • @jalex777
    @jalex777 6 років тому +12

    OH wow thanks for the shoutout!

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому

      Lol, no problem, but- were you subscribed or did you just find this lol

    • @jalex777
      @jalex777 6 років тому +3

      tbh i stumbled onto this. but ill sub :P

    • @SyphyousG
      @SyphyousG 6 років тому

      He gave you a shout out Jalex...you better sub. XD

  • @MrEvilbyte
    @MrEvilbyte 6 років тому +4

    I think the Cut zone in CD was Dust Hill/Desert Dazzle (or at least had it's graphics). Those badniks do look like they'd exist in a desert zone. And that robotnik boss looks like it would drive along the sands.
    A desert zone with ruins sounds interesting. I'm guessing those Desert Dazzle screenshots once belonged to the Past of R2.
    Further evidence of this desert zone are extra areas on the DA Garden world map. And the background on Wacky Workbench Past (a canyon).

    • @toastermario8788
      @toastermario8788 6 років тому +6

      Desert dazzle Is a level that Christian Whitehead wanted to add to the remake of Sonic CD to be a replacement of the original R2

    • @kylesatwon1134
      @kylesatwon1134 6 років тому +2

      Not only that, but it was based on Sonic 2's level, not any unused level in CD.

    • @RaCUtricolor
      @RaCUtricolor 5 років тому +1

      Dessert Dazzle was an idea created by Christian Whitehead for the 2011 remake based off of Sonic 2's cancelled Dust Hill Zone. It has nothing to do with R2, unless Mr. Whitehead had planned on using its scrapped Badniks in Dessert Dazzle.

    • @ArcticLuigi
      @ArcticLuigi 4 роки тому

      dude desert dazzle was supposed to be a new zone for the 2011 remake of sonic cd

  • @SpiralPegasus
    @SpiralPegasus 6 років тому +1

    Considering the Sonic fanbase found not just the _beta_ version of Sonic 2, but it's *_alpha_* one, as well as beta builds of Sonic 3 showing that 3 and Knuckles were going to be just one game and Crackers as proof-of-concept for Chaotix, I'd say it's just matter of time until they find an early build of Sonic CD with R2 in it.

    • @familyguyfan4208
      @familyguyfan4208 6 років тому

      some things end up staying lost in time, like the 1990 sonic demo or sonic mars.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому

      Or Sonic Synergy

  • @METATRONmusic
    @METATRONmusic 6 років тому +1

    The music in this video that was said to be for R2 is just a bunch of remixed versions of Take It! by Alex Lee. No way that would have been in the original game.

  • @ongakuwotabeta
    @ongakuwotabeta 5 років тому +1

    Little more info has been found, but with the release of December 92 prototype, at least it is more confirmed to be real due to the time attack selection menu (Unfortunately, it only has Palmtree panic in its coding) Also, Palmtree panic was originally Salad Plain.

  • @570y3n
    @570y3n 6 років тому +1

    Where did the name "Desert Dazzle" come from? I know there was unused content in CD used for Mirage Saloon in Mania from a level known as "Desert Dazzle" which was cut supposedly because the western theme didn't seem to make sense to most of the Japanese audience.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому

      It came from the person that made it, Christian Whitehead. He wanted it to be in the remake but it was scrapped because he ignored the multiple regional soundtracks the original had

  • @gagejohnson3494
    @gagejohnson3494 6 років тому +1

    Jalex's music is actually a remix of Alex Lee - Take It

  • @Rykerbutcooler
    @Rykerbutcooler Рік тому +2

    For the music part, it's fake, the real version of the song is in the sonic cd soundtracks on streaming services, it's called little big planet and it's the present version of R2. As confirmed by one of the devs. Also for the reason why it was cut out it was probably because of not enough storage on the cd.

  • @Zadamanim
    @Zadamanim 6 років тому +1

    I always wondered why the cinematic showed that ruined area with enemies that never appeared in the game!

  • @panoramhusky
    @panoramhusky 6 років тому +1

    The songs can't be real because the "past" tracks use the Sega Genesis's sound chip, not CD quality audio like the "present" and both "future" tracks.

  • @FrahdChikun
    @FrahdChikun 4 роки тому +2

    Judging from the Sprite work for R2's boss, you seemed to gloss over the yellow spring on the back of it. Would have this been a boss where you chase it, with the spring acting as something to push Sonic back?

  • @RocketeerRaccoon
    @RocketeerRaccoon 6 років тому

    Wow, I've always wondered about that animated segment in Sonic CD with the badnik that isn't even in the game, thanks for clearing up this mystery for me. And I love that level's music, it really does sounds like 90s club music. :D

  • @Christianrockrockz
    @Christianrockrockz 6 років тому +1

    I would have called it Rainbow Ruins personally.

  • @badcatalex
    @badcatalex 6 років тому +2

    It flat out wasn't relic ruins. It was something similar, but not that.

  • @rassilontdavros3004
    @rassilontdavros3004 5 років тому

    Those music tracks were actually used in a hack called _Sonic VR_ by MarkyJester, who compressed them to run on a Genesis. This was _way_ before 2016, so those tracks are definitely not “new discoveries.”

  • @maricthehedgehog
    @maricthehedgehog Рік тому +1

    Fun Fact : the Real name of R2 was revealed
    And it's Dubious Depths

  • @Automatik234
    @Automatik234 6 років тому +1

    Wouldn't trust Jalex too much. While he's a rather cool person, he was a fraud sometimes in the past. Also he loves to invent Zone names, which he also does for his stage mods.

  • @BastianTheGreatestCreatorEver
    @BastianTheGreatestCreatorEver 4 роки тому +1

    Someone needs to egt in touch with some people who worked on CD and ask them if the song sounds familiar or something.

  • @williamcollis455
    @williamcollis455 4 роки тому +3

    "Depending on how you look at it it's also the true sequel to Sonic 1"
    Well, no. Sonic CD is more like a reimagined Sonic 1. Also Sonic CD started as a CD version of Sonic 1. I also believe there was a CD version of Sonic 2 being made at the same time I'm not entirely sure. Point is, Sonic 2 is the actual sequel to Sonic 1. Sonic CD is it's own thing.

  • @calebd3947
    @calebd3947 6 років тому +6

    *marblegardenzone*

  • @maricthehedgehog
    @maricthehedgehog 2 роки тому +1

    In my opinion
    Relic Ruins Zone is gonna be a mix of Marble Zone from Sonic 1 & Aquatic Ruins Zone from Sonic 2

    • @maricthehedgehog
      @maricthehedgehog 2 роки тому +1

      For Short
      It gonna be Aquatic Ruins Zone with Marble Zone Level Design (Sorry...)

    • @johney-duh-one
      @johney-duh-one Рік тому

      Funny that Round 2 has been semi-confirmed to be based off of Marble Zone thanks to the recent release of new level concept art in Sonic Origins.

    • @lam7207
      @lam7207 Рік тому +1

      @@johney-duh-one "new level concept art in Sonic Origins" seriously? Can i get a link or a screenshot?

    • @johney-duh-one
      @johney-duh-one Рік тому

      @@lam7207 Sure thing.
      info.sonicretro.org/images/5/5b/SonicCD_MCD_Development_LittlePlanet.png

  • @whact
    @whact 7 місяців тому +1

    2:50 where did taxman even get this?

  • @callmeninaiced
    @callmeninaiced 6 років тому +1

    Uhh... The ACTUAL music of the stage was reused in the DA garden I think

  • @plantman2387
    @plantman2387 Рік тому

    Even though that music is fake, it is good music, especially the "bad future"

  • @KidPrarchord95
    @KidPrarchord95 6 років тому +1

    Those rainbows could be rainbow waterfalls.

  • @angryboi595
    @angryboi595 4 роки тому

    My idea for what the boss of R2 could of been
    You race eggman and eggman places the spikes that you jump over or it will hit you. Eggman does a little boot that shoots little fire from the eggbike's back (yes I'm calling it eggbike) dont touch the fire or you may get hit. If you run into eggman or eggman drives into you. You will get hit. He takes 8 hits to defeat. The back spring on eggmans back will push you back when trying to defeat him.
    Yeah I know my idea isnt really great and it sounds easy but the bosses in sonic CD arent good anyway

  • @lebanonballfree_palestine6036
    @lebanonballfree_palestine6036 2 роки тому

    Sonic CD Levels Should Have 9 Zones Like
    Palmtree Panic
    Relic Ruins
    Collision Chaos
    Tidal Tempest
    Quartz Quadrant
    Wacky Workbench
    Desert Dazzle
    Stardust Speedway
    Metallic Madness

  • @anonymousTool
    @anonymousTool 5 років тому

    Why we won’t be able to play this level?we are able to play a even finished hidden palace zone in sonic 2 and it was also a cut level that didn’t make it to the final release.So why not the same with R2 in one future?

  • @mann-nova9392
    @mann-nova9392 6 років тому +6

    Huh, I've never heard of this topic before... or you for that matter! But I like your presentation and now I'm super interested in this and whether or not anyone will pick up on it later. Nice job! I'm gonna check out a few more videos and consider subscribing. :)

  • @MizfitZer0
    @MizfitZer0 6 років тому

    Seeing as they zones all use the same letter for the start of the names, Palmtree Panic, Wacky Workbench ect... if it is a ruin zone and the concept shows rainbow waterfalls the 1st name that comes to mind is Rainbow Ruins

  • @medusakat460
    @medusakat460 2 роки тому +1

    Why is this unused I'm going to cry

  • @retrobitgamer4569
    @retrobitgamer4569 6 років тому +1

    Well, the past music is definitely take because the soundtrack for past zones were never CD quality tracks. They used the system's sound board. This is also why the Japanese and American versions share the past soundtrack of each zone as they are not actual tracks on a disk.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 6 років тому +1

      On top of that, the samples sound WAY too "Desperate Modem Early 90s Remix" to be authentic. Sonic CD's Japanese soundtrack is way too unique and Ubiquitous. Its pure Early 90s Japanese Clubhouse Music. That sounds like it has a Footprint from that time period.

    • @badcatalex
      @badcatalex 6 років тому

      RetroBitGamer compression

    • @RaCUtricolor
      @RaCUtricolor 5 років тому

      It's all fake, all of the tracks are different versions of Take It by Alex Lee.

  • @spriteearthworm6463
    @spriteearthworm6463 2 роки тому +1

    It's not marble garden ugh this video is both weird and good

  • @tateconnelley
    @tateconnelley 6 років тому

    I have figured out something: the levels in SonicCD goes in a similar patter as the levels in Sonic the Hedgehog
    Green Hill: grassy hillsides Marble Zone: stone ruins Spring Yard: an amuesment place Labrynth: submerged ruins Star Light: an urban place Scrap Brain: industrial factories.
    Palmtree Panic: grassy hillsides Collision Chaos: an amusement place Tidal Tempest: submerged ruins Stadust Speedway: an urbanized highway Qiartz Quarant and Wacky Workbenc: industrial factories
    Coincidence? I think NOT!

  • @SpongeMagic
    @SpongeMagic 6 років тому

    Since all past tracks in the game use PCM samples instead of redbook audio, the supposed past version of Relic Ruins seems way too high quality when compared to the rest of the past tracks.

  • @dee-jayluig-jay5352
    @dee-jayluig-jay5352 6 років тому +4

    Love your fucking 30 second intro next time I'm hoping it can be like 2 damn minutes!

  • @RaCUtricolor
    @RaCUtricolor 4 роки тому +1

    Actually, the Jalex777 R2 themes are all fake, as not only do they "use" parts of Take It by Alex Lee, but most of said tracks are just compressed versions of different official remixes of the song. If I remember correctly, the Mighty version is used for the Present mix, the OPM Mix is used for the Past mix and the Good Future mix, and the Mr. Oz vs Klepto-Maniacs version is used for the Bad Future mix.

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  4 роки тому

      Yeah, I know, I said they were fake, literally said they were from Alex Lee LOL. They're just a part of the commonly believed history of R2, because a lot of people associate it w the name Relic Ruins

    • @queensophia3137
      @queensophia3137 4 роки тому

      @@tallestflash Well here you go the unused JP R2 Bad Future Track or it unused track for another zone like the original R9 which is likely the desert area for little planet map
      drive.google.com/file/d/1KqmdELk0KFnHUgB0jRq-Sl8ZB82PATRP/view?usp=drivesdk

  • @cindycoyne8491
    @cindycoyne8491 6 років тому

    The r2 thing is actually going to a desert the same one that was cut from sonic 2 so the CD remake was a desert themed zone and Christian white head wanted to add in that missing zone but Sega didn't want them to and what you see in sonic mania is the cut desert stage from sonic 2 and cd

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому +1

      No, Desert Dazzle was entirely created by Christian Whitehead specifically to fill the R2 slot in the 2011 remake and was inspired by the scrapped Dusty Hill Zone from Sonic 2

  • @alicialeboeuf4009
    @alicialeboeuf4009 4 роки тому

    All the zones are shown on the little planet, so maybe relic ruins is shown on the little planet

  • @pupperfresh9601
    @pupperfresh9601 6 років тому

    Your editing is fantastic

  • @1SonicJack
    @1SonicJack 6 років тому +3

    I’ve heard the past and present themes before in a rom hack called Sonic the next level. don’t know if that helps proves if the songs are fake or not though I’d thought it would be good to mention.

    • @jalex777
      @jalex777 6 років тому

      nah that rom hack used it afterwards

    • @1SonicJack
      @1SonicJack 6 років тому +1

      Alright after some quick research I found two things first the song for the act ua-cam.com/video/CdL8fJH2mic/v-deo.html, and second thanks to a comment on the video states that the song is called “Take it” by Alan Lee and was made in 1990 so thus the song is proven to be fake zone music.

    • @jalex777
      @jalex777 6 років тому

      yep that was clarified

    • @YTChannelNat
      @YTChannelNat 6 років тому

      "nah that rom hack used it afterwards"
      ...despite the fact that you uploaded the songs in 2016, while the ROM Hack was made in 2015. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here? Your wording is a little ambiguous...

  • @tallestflash
    @tallestflash  4 роки тому +5

    Check out my latest episode of Hiddenblocks here :) ua-cam.com/video/cpudSBPxrzE/v-deo.html

    • @mattok101digitaltamer9
      @mattok101digitaltamer9 4 роки тому

      Wow, you still remember this vid? I forgot about you, bud.

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  3 роки тому

      @@mattok101digitaltamer9 Late response but yes! I update this video's comment whenever I come back because it's still bringing lots of viewers to the channel xD (as in for yesterday's new video too!)

  • @eqquip6812
    @eqquip6812 5 років тому

    5:29 sounds super good :D

  • @GuyWithThePie
    @GuyWithThePie 6 років тому +2

    4:37 sounds far too advanced for a Past theme. All of CD's Past themes used the Genesis soundchip (Or something along those lines, I'm not entirely sure) instead of the CD-quality music of other tracks to give them a more "retro" feel. They couldn't be easily altered either, which is why the US soundtrack doesn't have any Past themes to call its own.

    • @badcatalex
      @badcatalex 6 років тому +1

      GuyWithThePie not the Genesis chip, all PCM/MIDI

    • @badcatalex
      @badcatalex 6 років тому

      Also, it would be just decompressed.

    • @gagejohnson3494
      @gagejohnson3494 6 років тому

      GuyWithThePie the CD had its own soundchip and they probably used it to save space on the disc, plus it could just be a concept music.

    • @RaCUtricolor
      @RaCUtricolor 5 років тому

      Yeah it's fake, it's just a remix of a song called Take It by Alex Lee.

  • @eereree
    @eereree 4 роки тому

    Yeah. There are 3 zones if anyone didn’t know that weren’t released:
    R2 Zone
    Desert Dazzle Zone and
    Final Fever Zone, the once planned final boss zone...

    • @crazyexpresso
      @crazyexpresso Рік тому

      desert dazzle and final fever were levels planned for the 2011 remake but got scrapped

  • @devblue510
    @devblue510 6 років тому

    that lost level might show up in a future sonic game

  • @harryenchiladas8826
    @harryenchiladas8826 4 роки тому

    Sadly, sega already confirmed: Sonic CD goes before Sonic 4, that means it's a sequel to Sonic & Knuckles

    • @kex2247
      @kex2247 3 роки тому

      sonic CD is inbetween sonic 1 and 2

  • @bingobo2551
    @bingobo2551 2 роки тому +1

    R2 can depend on which version,
    Original: relic ruins/ not marble zone
    2011/origins ver: desert dazzle/ not dust hill zone.

    • @crazyexpresso
      @crazyexpresso Рік тому

      desert dazzle was a level planned for the 2011 remake but got scrapped

    • @bingobo2551
      @bingobo2551 Рік тому

      @@crazyexpresso I know, most likely was planned to be the second zone in the game. Due to the coding. Or thats what I think DD was gonna be at.

  • @tariqthehedgehog
    @tariqthehedgehog Рік тому +1

    This is not a lie, and this is true. The level was actually supposed to be named. Ridicule Root Search up the Sonic CD project

  • @BrightPlayz
    @BrightPlayz 4 роки тому +1

    I’m gonna try to unlock D.A. garden maybe it is relic ruins

  • @pandaproduction4390
    @pandaproduction4390 5 років тому +1

    Funny how you say that marble garden is one of your least favorite classic sonic levels yet you mistakened marble zone as marble garden in this video.

  • @asupercoolguywhoscool
    @asupercoolguywhoscool 2 роки тому

    I forgot this and also I was confused when it skipped 2-1 in the stage select

  • @plasmaxander912
    @plasmaxander912 6 років тому

    i think if i make a sonic creepypasta ill base it around a unique set of levels inspired by the more obscure lost zones like snowbank mountain from sa2 and relic ruins staying away from the more well known ones like genocide city and desert dazzle/dust hill

  • @saulgoodmangaming8075
    @saulgoodmangaming8075 4 роки тому

    Well the thing is antlions and snakes live in the desert and there is a cut level called desert dazzle

  • @delatomvione9943
    @delatomvione9943 6 років тому

    Let's hope it gets recreated in the future Sonic Mania updates.

  • @TheXhanort
    @TheXhanort 6 років тому +1

    I've never heard of this. Has anyone made a fan made rendition of this stage? I've seen a lot of hacks of cd and fan games influenced by cd, but I don't believe I've come across a rendition to it. If not, I hope this video inspires someone to make the stage.

    • @tallestflash
      @tallestflash  6 років тому

      Same, its a shame too, pretty sure it wouldve been cool

    • @jalex777
      @jalex777 6 років тому

      hey, i JUST posted a mod preview for Mania. You can check that out

    • @TheXhanort
      @TheXhanort 6 років тому

      Seems like Jalex777 is working on it ua-cam.com/video/HYTzIMz9dnY/v-deo.html

  • @Mila-su8qs
    @Mila-su8qs 6 років тому

    I really thought R2 was a level with two R's because if you haven't noticed already the zone names are all two words of the same beginning letter Example: Wacky Workbench(WW) Stardust Speedway (SS) Palmtree panic (PP).

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому +1

      The "R" stands for "Round" since that's what they called the stages instead of zones, which they used instead of "act".

  • @Luigi269
    @Luigi269 6 років тому

    I think the inconsist standards are because of different teams. Sonic cd was made by sega of japan while i think sonic 06 was made by sega of America. The songs were awesome though.

  • @jeroenboth167
    @jeroenboth167 6 років тому

    I want to see this level return 😁 cool video 👍

  • @remedynoneofyourbusiness6
    @remedynoneofyourbusiness6 6 років тому

    Replay shop!
    Intro included
    0:00 0:01 0:02 0:03 0:04 0:05 0:06 0:07 0:08 0:09 0:10 0:11 0:12 0:13 0:14 0:15 0:16 0:17 0:18 0:19 0:20 0:21 0:22 0:23 0:24 0:25 0:26 0:27 0:28
    Intro not included
    0:29

  • @marx4538
    @marx4538 6 років тому

    I think Sonic CD is the best Sonic game, but this video is VERY interesting! Subscribed and liked.

  • @orangeytrain8878
    @orangeytrain8878 4 роки тому

    I hope the boss from it one day returns

  • @jojidubi4
    @jojidubi4 6 років тому

    Dagger Man’s theme in the end is the best part easily.

  • @shalpp
    @shalpp 6 років тому

    Unless the past music posted was a concept it wouldn't be redbook audio quality

  • @bing1136
    @bing1136 6 років тому +1

    If every CD level is a "remake" of one from sonic 1 what is wacky work bench and quarts quadrant?

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 6 років тому

      Perhaps those rounds were of Spring Yard and Labyrinth zones?

    • @maryoconnell8765
      @maryoconnell8765 4 роки тому

      No final zone and bonus stage *joke*

  • @gionjiibrahim9774
    @gionjiibrahim9774 2 роки тому +1

    6:24 what do you mean by cut late in development r2 was on Sonic CD Prototype v0.02 time attack but it was not playable (r2) and the next Prototype has no r2 and the ending scene is there early in development.

    • @soaringstars314
      @soaringstars314 2 роки тому

      Does yhe next prototype have the rest of the levels? If i remember correctly it has collision chaos too but that's it

    • @gionjiibrahim9774
      @gionjiibrahim9774 2 роки тому

      @@soaringstars314 probably, if theres new Prototypes, oh yeah in 510 Prototype there is no R2

    • @soaringstars314
      @soaringstars314 2 роки тому

      @@gionjiibrahim9774 i think the 510 has the rest of the stages but idk. I don't remember any prototype that has anything between more than the first 2 levels and all of them but idk lol

    • @soaringstars314
      @soaringstars314 2 роки тому

      @@gionjiibrahim9774 crap nvmd it stopped at tidal tempest

    • @gionjiibrahim9774
      @gionjiibrahim9774 2 роки тому

      @@soaringstars314 R2 Removed, and then they make Tidal Tempest

  • @freshntoasted
    @freshntoasted 6 років тому

    Stored in MMd.s?
    2000s Anime Flashbacks

  • @yaboimysticmakashi
    @yaboimysticmakashi 6 років тому

    Music has some legitimacy to it it does sound like something that would be cut

  • @yagzucar3489
    @yagzucar3489 Рік тому

    Present music of round 2 is little Planet (d.a garden) music the bad future can be Heard in techno power mix (from Sonic remix album) and good future track is Sonic Stream from Sonic remix album

  • @Enderwither17
    @Enderwither17 6 років тому

    I love the intro my guy

  • @dittmarheinrich2175
    @dittmarheinrich2175 2 роки тому

    Bruh the past sounds like a diferent upbeat of stardust speedway

  • @petercottantail7850
    @petercottantail7850 6 років тому

    someone prolly said this akready but marbelzone in sanek1 is listed in the files as zone 3 just saying

  • @aaronf1788
    @aaronf1788 6 років тому

    That couldn't be a wheel since it's not circular; if it was, Robotnik would be covered by it