Sonic CD - Has R2's Good Future Theme Finally Been Found?? - A Sonic CD Theory

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  • Опубліковано 30 гру 2022
  • in this video we take a look at sonic stream, an alleged remix of the good future theme for the scrapped "r2" stage, i hope you will enjoy this return to a more normal video format :)
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  • @videotape2959
    @videotape2959 Рік тому +92

    R2 is one of my most sought-after cut elements from Sonic games. It's the "c17_02" of the Sonic series hahaha.
    For those who aren't Half-Life 2 fans, "c17_02" was one of the map files that made up the trek through City 17 presumably during the game's late 2000-early 2001's development period. In the map folders we have that were leaked in 2003, there are many revisions of c17_01 and a single revision of c17_03, but no copies of c17_02.

    • @videotape2959
      @videotape2959 Рік тому +2

      @@voidpacer Yes, they're VMF files, uncompiled map files. They contain general information about the map, the 3D geometry, the position of the entities, etc... They do not contain textures, entities, models or sound effects. Thankfully however, a build of the game was leaked alongside those uncompiled maps and although it is from late 2003, it still contains some textures, sound effects, models and entities from earlier development phases.

    • @roby4504
      @roby4504 Рік тому +7

      God, I remember being so fascinated with HL2's beta, looking up all the unused sounds, maps and even voicelines.
      I miss those times.

    • @videotape2959
      @videotape2959 Рік тому +2

      @@roby4504 I still am fascinated by HL2.

    • @videotape2959
      @videotape2959 Рік тому

      @@voidpacer Nope, sadly I do not have it.

  • @Cancer_games
    @Cancer_games Рік тому +89

    R2 past meanwhile: 💀

    • @shitboxx
      @shitboxx Рік тому +1

      a channel named COLTEREX made a nice past theme, if u wanna check it out

    • @Firehat_
      @Firehat_ Рік тому

      tu e br que eu sei kaakakakakakaka

    • @Cancer_games
      @Cancer_games Рік тому +1

      @@Firehat_ acerto poha 😃

    • @Firehat_
      @Firehat_ Рік тому

      @@Cancer_games tbm ne o nome kakakakak

    • @Cancer_games
      @Cancer_games Рік тому +2

      @@Firehat_ eu literalmente usei o google tradutor pra traduzir 2 palavras kk

  • @aPonderousChain
    @aPonderousChain Рік тому +25

    I can't wait to start seeing Dubious Depths mods. It's a great time to be a CD fan. I feel like we're on the cusp of a proper CD PC version equivalent to Sonic 3 A.I.R. It's the only Classic game to go, and the work done on the Restored mod would be a great foundation. There's even mods to restore the Mega CD pixel art cutscenes, missing music loop pieces, instantaneous time travel, etc. The work just needs to be compiled together.

  • @eightee7635
    @eightee7635 Рік тому +42

    Bro so we had almost EVERY R2 song this whole time?!?! 🤯 At this rate we might even get to see the level one day lol, this is crazy

    • @shitboxx
      @shitboxx Рік тому

      someone made a fan made past song which i think is perfect. the channel is COLTEREX. he made some really nice remixes

    • @ese_je_cero_cinco.
      @ese_je_cero_cinco. Рік тому +2

      It's a theory dude

    • @shitboxx
      @shitboxx Рік тому +11

      @@ese_je_cero_cinco. so?? he's just excited you don't need to ruin his fun

    • @ese_je_cero_cinco.
      @ese_je_cero_cinco. Рік тому

      @@shitboxx oh ok

    • @hiddenboy007
      @hiddenboy007 Рік тому +1

      it's literally just speculation

  • @ClassicSonic549
    @ClassicSonic549 9 місяців тому +9

    I am a hardcore Sonic CD fan and the fact we have gotten this far with a early scraped zone is impressive.

  • @G.Librange
    @G.Librange Рік тому +15

    You know, with the fact brought up at 7:05, I can't help but wonder, could the Past & Good/Bad Future tracks be based off the other Pacific tracks by 808 State
    Pacific 718 sounds like it could be the inspiration for a bad future track, and Pacific 101 sounds like possible inspiration for a past track.
    Edit: Pacific 909 sounds like something that would be a good future track as well.

  • @bingobo2551
    @bingobo2551 Рік тому +29

    Honestly I would love to see all 3 of sonic cd’s scrapped zones come back in a future remake. Not counting mirage saloon. I would wonder how both R2 & DD would play out if they actually came out would they be like something in the style of SS, TT or even MM. or would they do their own thing. For FF I think it would have worked like the final boss of SA3 but you would have to time travel to defeat the boss. I’m not sure tbh.

    • @siarhian10
      @siarhian10 Рік тому +5

      all 3? I thought it was just Dubious Depths/Ridicule Root/R2?

    • @lam7207
      @lam7207 Рік тому +3

      @@siarhian10 @Bingobo 25 is refering to the 2 cut zones (Desert Dazzle and Final Fever) from the Christian Whitehead version of Sonic CD and he said that he would love for these 2 zones (along with Dubious Depths/Ridicule Roots) to be added in a future remake of Sonic CD.
      I hope that clarifies your confusion

    • @siarhian10
      @siarhian10 Рік тому

      @@lam7207 cheers

    • @elmob6981
      @elmob6981 Рік тому +1

      @@lam7207 Ayo, but these one are from the remake,those don't counts as a scrapped zone cuz they got reused for sonic mania 🗿

    • @lam7207
      @lam7207 Рік тому +1

      @@elmob6981 wdym they dont count? They're still cut from the game! Just because they're put in another game doesn't mean they're still not unused in the game they were supposed to be in.
      Also you must have read my comment wrong and thought it was me that would like a future remake with all 3 zones added when I was just clarrifying @Bingobo 25 Comment.

  • @koi_sakana
    @koi_sakana Рік тому +32

    If R2 is the random stage found in the credits, then someone could potentially try and remake what R2 could have been. Just thinking about it, it’s sort of like marble zone in the way it looked, without lava. Potentially even looking like some of the Sonic 2 concepts art.

    • @Cancer_games
      @Cancer_games Рік тому +3

      Marble zone + labyrinth zone = r2

    • @iggy_69420
      @iggy_69420 Рік тому +2

      Probably but the colors for r2 would probably be different since some of the other levels aren’t colored like they are in the final game

    • @WoofWoofWhisper
      @WoofWoofWhisper Рік тому +1

      @@Cancer_games Actually pretty sure tidal tempest takes the spot of labyrinth making Marble in reality R2

    • @WoofWoofWhisper
      @WoofWoofWhisper Рік тому +4

      For reference:
      Green Hill = Palmtree Panic
      Marble Zone = R2
      Spring yard = Collision chaos
      Labyrinth = Tidal Tempest
      And so on.

    • @TobytheHedgehog
      @TobytheHedgehog Рік тому

      Rainbow Lava for Ridicule Root?(Yes That is one of R2's offical names)

  • @selph8278
    @selph8278 Рік тому +12

    i want dubious depths to be leaked from a prototype!

    • @gengargamer5657
      @gengargamer5657 Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately, it doesn't exist. The level was scrapped early on and the only remnant of it in prototypes is an R2 level select option in one of the early builds, but sadly that option doesn't work.

    • @selph8278
      @selph8278 Рік тому +9

      @@gengargamer5657 i think there's a bit more bc christian whitehead actually pulled out some enemy sprites and a boss from dubious depths while working on the 2011 port
      there probably is a beta version dating past the only prototype we have but obviously before the final with completed round 2 art and at least a partially finished level with its obstacles

    • @gengargamer5657
      @gengargamer5657 Рік тому

      @@selph8278 I doubt it, because if there was, then at least one of the prototypes would've had something. That was the case for Sonic 2's prototypes, afterall.

    • @selph8278
      @selph8278 Рік тому +3

      @@gengargamer5657 we actually have only had a single sonic cd prototype, and it was very early in development, which is why there's still hope

    • @gengargamer5657
      @gengargamer5657 Рік тому +3

      @@selph8278 No, we've actually had a few, and none of the later ones have any mention of R2. I recommend checking out TetraBitGaming's video on the subject. He has a video where he goes over multiple Sonic CD prototypes.

  • @Loader2K1
    @Loader2K1 Рік тому +4

    Interesting theory and analysis! Keep up the good work!

  • @kittyboochanyesbongono8467
    @kittyboochanyesbongono8467 11 місяців тому +5

    Actually, Here is what Sonic CD was originally gonna be like:
    1. Salad Plain
    2. Dubious Depths
    3. Collision Chaos
    4. Quartz Quadrant
    5. Wacky Workbench
    6. Stardust Speedway
    There were originally gonna be 6 rounds, with the old name of Palmtree Panic, addition of Dubious Depths, and the removal of Tidal Tempest and Metallic Madness

    • @TMXMediaYT
      @TMXMediaYT 5 місяців тому +4

      Tidal Tempest and Metallic Madness were always planned, what are you on about

    • @TMXMediaYT
      @TMXMediaYT 5 місяців тому +4

      And Wacky Workbench's original name was Crazy Toybox

    • @kittyboochanyesbongono8467
      @kittyboochanyesbongono8467 5 місяців тому

      Oh yes, I was just getting info from the ending video of Sonic CD

    • @MrNoobNub
      @MrNoobNub 4 місяці тому +2

      @@kittyboochanyesbongono8467 the ending video shows metallic madness though

  • @blackrook29
    @blackrook29 Рік тому +6

    i still like the rainbow ruins tune thats on youtube. sad a level was cut. sonic cd is my favourite love the colours, the vibes it just has 90s all over it.

  • @failisha1786
    @failisha1786 Рік тому +6

    This needs more likes ngl, like they literally spend so much effort and literally spend like years discovering R2 come on y’all

  • @ojama102
    @ojama102 Рік тому +5

    Amazing!

  • @dylanzlol7293
    @dylanzlol7293 Рік тому +9

    Imagine the bad future version

    • @sayaka_miki353
      @sayaka_miki353 Рік тому +2

      Were already have but this is really bad know just a search "r2 bad future" were have proofs that it is real

    • @DJtheMJ
      @DJtheMJ Рік тому +12

      We already have it. We need a past.

    • @gengargamer5657
      @gengargamer5657 Рік тому +5

      Look up the Techno Power Mix album. The second song is the official Bad Future version

  • @SonicStuffChannel
    @SonicStuffChannel Рік тому +7

    Very good video

  • @AlphaAurora
    @AlphaAurora Рік тому +6

    You know, the erosion levels also appears to include the day/night cycle too from the looks of it. So Sonic CD was meant to take place over 2 days?

  • @ShrekBoi-rk3ry
    @ShrekBoi-rk3ry Рік тому +1

    Im glad i live in the present where we have all the music and more concept art for r2 and a official name for the zone

  • @Jerricoking
    @Jerricoking Рік тому +1

    I just hope we find the freaking songs man.

  • @JojoJere
    @JojoJere Рік тому +2

    R2 is Dubious Depths.

  • @Caliber30001
    @Caliber30001 Рік тому

    im hoping to see if one day we will discover the real tracks for the other times, is prob not gonna happen, but im still hoping to at least, see the comumnity find the protos of the tracks
    more than anything, the past version

  • @derekartyt
    @derekartyt 3 місяці тому

    2:27 That sound is very miraculous, I don't know why it reminds me of the good ending of Sonic CD

  • @diegocobabravo1127
    @diegocobabravo1127 Рік тому +4

    Dubious Dephts/R2

  • @Sam_Romero15
    @Sam_Romero15 Рік тому

    Maybe one day one day we’ll be able to see Real photos of R2

  • @OtterLords
    @OtterLords Рік тому

    I wish we could play R2 and see this enemies in the credits

  • @El__Mosquito
    @El__Mosquito Рік тому

    Alex you rules

  • @gerardo_contreras
    @gerardo_contreras Рік тому

    Sonic CD is my favorite

  • @El__Mosquito
    @El__Mosquito Рік тому +1

    Angelfox dagoat

  • @SecretSumCF
    @SecretSumCF Рік тому +7

    could there be a us version of r2 lost

    • @iggy_69420
      @iggy_69420 Рік тому +18

      Most likely not because r2 was cut early in development and the us soundtrack was made 2 months away or 4 months away from the release date in us

    • @SecretSumCF
      @SecretSumCF Рік тому +2

      Oh thanks btw

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 Рік тому +11

      no but someone out there could make a fanmade version of it

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong Рік тому +5

      Nope US soundtrack was made after R2 was scrapped, so none exist

    • @varganyamuvek
      @varganyamuvek Рік тому

      LIKELY no, because the Japanese version was (I think) finalized, wheb SEGA started working on the US soundtrack

  • @BackroomsSlayer
    @BackroomsSlayer Рік тому

    I think I hear Trollge narrating this. R2 likely was purposely left for the fans to pick up as devs back then were known to do that.

  • @jonathankitsos1291
    @jonathankitsos1291 Рік тому

    I want past

  • @RayonDuncan
    @RayonDuncan Рік тому +2

    Nah the bad future version more cooler

  • @hidenaxolotl
    @hidenaxolotl 11 місяців тому

    OMG I ACUALLY MIGHT HAVE A PROTOTYPE IN MA BASMENT WITH DUBIOUS DEPTHS