Thanks for uploading this. Seems like TCM showed the unfortunate 2005 Seydor Cut as opposed to the "Turner Cut" (which was Peckinpah's rough cut). A few things: there is evidence that Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid were friends in real life, most notably a quote from Paulita Maxwell (one of the Kid's lovers) where she describes them as inseparable and that everyone even had matching nicknames for the two of them (Garrett was "Big Casino" and the Kid was "Little Casino" because they were always gambling). People seem to get the idea that they weren't friends from Garrett's book, but why would he go out of his way to deny being the Kid's friend if no one at the time was making those claims? Later, one of the members of the Kid's gang wrote a book where he mentions Garrett coming to warn the Kid to leave the territory (just like in the film). As for the seemingly egregious casting of a 35 year old Kristofferson as a 21 year old Billy the Kid, this was not some weird oversight on Peckinpah's part. Peckinpah loved the irony of a guy called "The Kid" being a past his prime burnout. That's kind of the whole point of the film. Casting a 21 year old as Billy would give the aimlessness of his actions a certain spark and vitality that would undermine the whole film.
I'd like to see Thornton play LBJ, who fits his conflicted profile perfectly. In my opinion, Cranston was miscast; his performance was pedestrian and Johnson was Shakespearean - heroic/tragic. Surprising that he hasn't gotten a fitting treatment. Billy Bob?
What the hell you are talking about ? The wild Bunch is the best movie Sam Peckinpah has ever done , that’s why I gave up TCM , because after Robert these people don’t know damn thing about movies
Thornton is the perfect age to play guys like Pat Garrett in Westerns.
That cameo he had in 1883 was perfect!!!
Great film !
spot on
great movie
Thanks for uploading this. Seems like TCM showed the unfortunate 2005 Seydor Cut as opposed to the "Turner Cut" (which was Peckinpah's rough cut). A few things: there is evidence that Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid were friends in real life, most notably a quote from Paulita Maxwell (one of the Kid's lovers) where she describes them as inseparable and that everyone even had matching nicknames for the two of them (Garrett was "Big Casino" and the Kid was "Little Casino" because they were always gambling). People seem to get the idea that they weren't friends from Garrett's book, but why would he go out of his way to deny being the Kid's friend if no one at the time was making those claims? Later, one of the members of the Kid's gang wrote a book where he mentions Garrett coming to warn the Kid to leave the territory (just like in the film). As for the seemingly egregious casting of a 35 year old Kristofferson as a 21 year old Billy the Kid, this was not some weird oversight on Peckinpah's part. Peckinpah loved the irony of a guy called "The Kid" being a past his prime burnout. That's kind of the whole point of the film. Casting a 21 year old as Billy would give the aimlessness of his actions a certain spark and vitality that would undermine the whole film.
Totally spot on. The only thing lacking of the "Turner" version is the scene of Pat and his Mexican wife is missing.
Billy Bob would have played in Peckinpah films if he has been born earlier
Would have loved to have seen Thornton play Peckinpah.
Would love to see Thornton play a historic figure. 👍
Don Johnson was up for playing Peckinpah.
"Comes an age in a man's life when he don't wanna spend time figuring what comes next."
I'd like to see Thornton play LBJ, who fits his conflicted profile perfectly. In my opinion, Cranston was miscast; his performance was pedestrian and Johnson was Shakespearean - heroic/tragic. Surprising that he hasn't gotten a fitting treatment. Billy Bob?
Billy the kid did not die he took a new name under a private pardon and moved to Olympia Washington i am Billy the kids great grandson
What the hell you are talking about ? The wild Bunch is the best movie Sam Peckinpah has ever done , that’s why I gave up TCM , because after Robert these people don’t know damn thing about movies
People can have different opinions. Stop being intolerant, it’s infantile
The film is a masterpiece and Coburn was the coolest ever