Beautiful interview. A real delight to listen 🙂. I appreciate the interviewer’s comments. She plays an important part in this interview and it is her genuine interest in the topic that makes it so good. She has good insights and knowledge.
I enjoyed the art of grace and flow in the conversation. Very smooth self and other interactions. How Janina relates is just as much speaking a manner of being with another that is soothing. Attunement modeling here.
Incredible interview.. so well explained and very logical... Janina has such a wealth of experience AND an ability to explain her reasoning behind what she practices and believes... i thought the interviewer was great too!
it doesn't justify, it explains -- doesn't mean you're not still responsible for what you do. but if you are dysregulated moral reasoning is off-line, alas.
I think God created us to be attached to our parents and when that fails He has provided us the opportunity to have a relationship with Himself. We are mind, body and spirit and when our bodies receive the Holy Spirit we become even more alive with the attachment we have with the Lord. Teying to simply attach to ourselves for healing will never be enough. God has to be in it.
That depends on your perspective of God. Not everyone is religious and they see their inner power as the 'god' force. Religion does not have the whole answer for everyone. Realising our inner connection to our own inner power can be just as healing as the religion based approach. It really does depend on your belief system and not one is better than the other. The difference is however, that relying on something 'outside' yourself can be disempowering. It truly is just a personal perspective.
Why does is scare you that people have guns? Do you realize that we all die? Are you not fearful of what happens after life here? I cannot wait to be at home with my Jesus, I pray that you may know God in the way that you can say the same thing.
The interviewer talks too much and interrupts just when Janine is getting going on a topic. We want to hear Janine and you the interviewer are not supposed to be noticed too much. Next time just let the interviewee talk - don’t shut them down with your “observation” - it is very annoying for the listener (and I’m guessing the interviewee as well).
As a veteran interviewer myself, the interviewer did fantastic. You need to deal with your over expectations and do your own healing work. It's clear you haven't done your work.
@@StacyHarp Since my comment has risen to the top, and has had the most likes of all the original commenters, and other people had the same exact comment, I am wondering why the personal attack on me we was necessary? Or, you could allow me to have my opinion and you could have yours without accusing me of “not doing my work” 😂😂??
There is a moral dilemma here. The Trauma discourse seems to indicate that traumatised people have no control over their responses due to their distegulated states. This seems to justify behaviours that hurt other people. What seems to be missing from the discourse is the degree to which having a moral compass shapes a person's behaviours regardless of their level of trauma.
Moral compass does not exist in the limbic brain. Traumatized people because of their less developed prefrontal cortex live in permanent fight or flight states.
@@canismajoris39 That may be true. But then where does it exist? Are we then saying that traumatised people cannot act morally or ethically? It would perhaps make it more difficult if someone is easily triggered but even then a person's conscience or values can intervene.
@@parisaforpeace If you are on the higher spectrum of DID and fully dissociate, your moral compas as far as it is developed as an adult alter, is likely to be unreachable by the presenting part of you because that part can be literally a 3 year old child or a very angry and traumatised teenager. I think that there is a natural tendency for the majority of us to lean towards the 'do no harm' spectrum of existence but just as an angry teen can lash out and hurt somebody, an angry alter who is essentially stuck in teen consciousness, can harm without malice, but as a defense mechanism. It is extremely difficult to describe unless you have experienced it. When I dissociate fully, there is a 'me' conducting my body and talking and interacting but I am not there. The 'me' that is typing this response to you ceases to exist. When I return, I have truly not one iota of recall of the time I was 'not there'. I have to rely on others around me to tell me what 'I' said or did. So far, there has been no harm done by the 'others', but I would imagine that this may not be the case for some. Maybe there is the hurt child that has no regard for how their words or actions affect others, and maybe there's the hurt child that curls up in the corner and doesn't speak. There is no way of knowing and each person is different. The media portrays DID in such a way that an alter can break the law or cause injury or even murder and is not doing any favours for the DID community by embellishing in this fashion for effect. I cannot say if in real life, that is possible or not but, if they dissociate like I do, then any actions in that state are out of 'my' control. Or, are they? Maybe there is some semblance of character that remains for us all (all of my presentations), maybe not. Maybe if there was a tendency for the host (me), to commit murder or assault people or whatever, there may be that already in me at birth and therefore may transfer into all my alters? We just don't know enough about it to answer your question with a simple response. I think we are so far from understanding it totally and only through further study, patience and compassion, can we understand it more.
@@Lenergyiskey358 Thank you for putting it in the context of DID and sharing your personal experience. Your questions are certainly thought provoking. From my own experience, developing a sense of self removed a negative self-concept often underlying complex trauma has been very helpful. Imagining myself being a certain way or reflecting certain values such as dignity is one technique . I am now more inclined to ask myself are some of my thoughts aligned with the value of self-respect for example. However, with DID I am not sure how a coherent sense of self or identity can be developed. All the best with your journey.
I was really enjoying this, until it went political. Damn. You're triggering 100% of your viewers. You just finished talking about how talk therapy doesn't work if you've been traumatized. When you talk about it, your brain shuts off and your emotions are activated. Well, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, political talk is all emotions now. We can't have a civil conversation about policy differences when some leaders call half of their country's people, "Deplorables" and "fascists."
'Why can't we learn secure attachment by attaching to ourselves', I love it!!
I love that the interview read the book. That shows her respect for Janina which makes this a great interview.
Beautiful interview. A real delight to listen 🙂. I appreciate the interviewer’s comments. She plays an important part in this interview and it is her genuine interest in the topic that makes it so good. She has good insights and knowledge.
This women is wonderful ❤❤❤
I enjoyed the art of grace and flow in the conversation. Very smooth self and other interactions. How Janina relates is just as much speaking a manner of being with another that is soothing. Attunement modeling here.
Janina is a Good listener , thank you
Thank you for this very well done extended interview.
Our pleasure!
Incredible interview.. so well explained and very logical... Janina has such a wealth of experience AND an ability to explain her reasoning behind what she practices and believes... i thought the interviewer was great too!
Thank you for this interview🙏 Love Janina ❤️
Thank you for taking the time to listen 😀
Awesome information presented in a loving manner ❤
Her trauma workbook is great !
Which one?
30:10 (note for self)
First comment! This is great, thank you for such a thoughtful interview ❤
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it doesn't justify, it explains -- doesn't mean you're not still responsible for what you do. but if you are dysregulated moral reasoning is off-line, alas.
I'm also curious if in Janinas model if the kids inside ever grow up into mature adults.
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I think God created us to be attached to our parents and when that fails He has provided us the opportunity to have a relationship with Himself. We are mind, body and spirit and when our bodies receive the Holy Spirit we become even more alive with the attachment we have with the Lord. Teying to simply attach to ourselves for healing will never be enough. God has to be in it.
That depends on your perspective of God. Not everyone is religious and they see their inner power as the 'god' force. Religion does not have the whole answer for everyone. Realising our inner connection to our own inner power can be just as healing as the religion based approach. It really does depend on your belief system and not one is better than the other. The difference is however, that relying on something 'outside' yourself can be disempowering. It truly is just a personal perspective.
Let the interviewee speak
Why does is scare you that people have guns? Do you realize that we all die? Are you not fearful of what happens after life here?
I cannot wait to be at home with my Jesus, I pray that you may know God in the way that you can say the same thing.
Their model doesn't allow for God. Their God is themselves.
I'm curious about how they would recommend Joe Biden regulate his nervous system so he's not traumatizing the whole world.
The interviewer talks too much and interrupts just when Janine is getting going on a topic. We want to hear Janine and you the interviewer are not supposed to be noticed too much. Next time just let the interviewee talk - don’t shut them down with your “observation” - it is very annoying for the listener (and I’m guessing the interviewee as well).
I think the interviewer did a good job with topic introduction, reflecting back and clarifying what Janine was saying.
I agree, she did a great job. Setting up scenarios is part of her role. Otherwise Ms Fisher might as well speak from a podium.
As a veteran interviewer myself, the interviewer did fantastic. You need to deal with your over expectations and do your own healing work. It's clear you haven't done your work.
@@StacyHarp Since my comment has risen to the top, and has had the most likes of all the original commenters, and other people had the same exact comment, I am wondering why the personal attack on me we was necessary? Or, you could allow me to have my opinion and you could have yours without accusing me of “not doing my work” 😂😂??
@@chrishorton2141 Because it's clear you haven't done your work. Most people haven't. That's my observation. You don't have to like it.
There is a moral dilemma here. The Trauma discourse seems to indicate that traumatised people have no control over their responses due to their distegulated states. This seems to justify behaviours that hurt other people. What seems to be missing from the discourse is the degree to which having a moral compass shapes a person's behaviours regardless of their level of trauma.
Moral compass does not exist in the limbic brain. Traumatized people because of their less developed prefrontal cortex live in permanent fight or flight states.
@@canismajoris39 That may be true. But then where does it exist? Are we then saying that traumatised people cannot act morally or ethically? It would perhaps make it more difficult if someone is easily triggered but even then a person's conscience or values can intervene.
@@parisaforpeace If you are on the higher spectrum of DID and fully dissociate, your moral compas as far as it is developed as an adult alter, is likely to be unreachable by the presenting part of you because that part can be literally a 3 year old child or a very angry and traumatised teenager. I think that there is a natural tendency for the majority of us to lean towards the 'do no harm' spectrum of existence but just as an angry teen can lash out and hurt somebody, an angry alter who is essentially stuck in teen consciousness, can harm without malice, but as a defense mechanism.
It is extremely difficult to describe unless you have experienced it. When I dissociate fully, there is a 'me' conducting my body and talking and interacting but I am not there. The 'me' that is typing this response to you ceases to exist. When I return, I have truly not one iota of recall of the time I was 'not there'. I have to rely on others around me to tell me what 'I' said or did.
So far, there has been no harm done by the 'others', but I would imagine that this may not be the case for some. Maybe there is the hurt child that has no regard for how their words or actions affect others, and maybe there's the hurt child that curls up in the corner and doesn't speak. There is no way of knowing and each person is different.
The media portrays DID in such a way that an alter can break the law or cause injury or even murder and is not doing any favours for the DID community by embellishing in this fashion for effect. I cannot say if in real life, that is possible or not but, if they dissociate like I do, then any actions in that state are out of 'my' control. Or, are they? Maybe there is some semblance of character that remains for us all (all of my presentations), maybe not. Maybe if there was a tendency for the host (me), to commit murder or assault people or whatever, there may be that already in me at birth and therefore may transfer into all my alters? We just don't know enough about it to answer your question with a simple response.
I think we are so far from understanding it totally and only through further study, patience and compassion, can we understand it more.
@@Lenergyiskey358 Thank you for putting it in the context of DID and sharing your personal experience. Your questions are certainly thought provoking. From my own experience, developing a sense of self removed a negative self-concept often underlying complex trauma has been very helpful. Imagining myself being a certain way or reflecting certain values such as dignity is one technique . I am now more inclined to ask myself are some of my thoughts aligned with the value of self-respect for example. However, with DID I am not sure how a coherent sense of self or identity can be developed. All the best with your journey.
@@parisaforpeace Thank you. Same to you.
I was really enjoying this, until it went political. Damn.
You're triggering 100% of your viewers.
You just finished talking about how talk therapy doesn't work if you've been traumatized. When you talk about it, your brain shuts off and your emotions are activated.
Well, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, political talk is all emotions now.
We can't have a civil conversation about policy differences when some leaders call half of their country's people, "Deplorables" and "fascists."