A Revolutionary New Battery for Grid Energy Storage with Donald Sadoway
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- One of Time Magazines 100 most influential people in the world, MIT Professor Donald Sadoway, describes the development of a new revolutionary, cost effective, and very durable grid storage liquid metal battery which will revolutionize the electric grid and solve energy storage problems for renewable energy such as solar and wind energy. The presentation was made at the February 18, 2015 MIT Enterprise Forum of Texas program in Houston.
He's been doing the rounds with this speech for 10 years. If it's as good as he says it should have come to market by now. So the fact that it hasn't speaks to some fatal flaw he's not disclosing. I wish that weren't the case.
great speech, great ideas, great work! wish you the best with your Al-batteries, the world needs these!
I wish I had seen before now. This video tells about his first deployment of the batteries. I have wanted to know and I have not found this info elsewhere. I will listen again soon and look for more info from Sadoway/ Ambri. Even though this video is 4 years old, it has info that I was looking for. Exciting stuff!
Love watching Donald's talks, they are so interesting. However, is he advocating that after all said and done, Edisons DC from local storage turns out to be better that AC pumped across the country or is he saying a combination of the two will neutralise the problems of high and low demand?
A captivating and hilarious talk. Thank you
I REALLY ENJOY LISTENING TO HIM
1:04:49 Studebaker went out of business just a few years after the Avanti came out.
Big companies like Siemens, ABB, GE, Schnider Electric, etc. Do not want to take any risk on "disruptive" or risky new technologies. They would rather have universities and tech startups assume all the risk, then buy them out if the ideas look like they could be profitable. Large corporations have the capital to do amazing world-changing research, but short-term (quarterly profits) thinking dominates their business decisions. Large-scale energy infrastructure investments typically have long payback periods, that's why corporations (and our government, by political affiliation with these corporations) aren't particularly interested.
The stock symbol is LQMT, I rather buy this stock for my grandkids it's dirt cheap now, but with enough investment who knows? I am really rooting for this tech to hit the residential market.
Wise man.
thank you
The inventer of electromagnetism and aluminium was Hans Christian Ørsted , a Danish farmaceut , born in 1777 and died 1851. Before chemestri was tought in DK .he made it ..... i like this Doctors educative style , respect his world view , but all Danes know this , while you look it up , see first flight and the name Ellehammer
Fascinating. It is interesting, but there are certain points that he mocks, without actually showing anything better. Plus, his main idea seems to be solely about affecting grid level energy storage. His concept of high storage capacity at low cost is cool, but completely ignores the need for lightweight, or mobile applications. In terms of use to eliminate natural gas turbines or diesel generators and coal fired power plants, he makes perfect sense. My own perspective is quite a bit different. I'm sure he is a very inspiring teacher.
Wow! did you actually miss the point completely? Stationary, massive, cheap, reliable storage is what is needed to solve for energy demand variability. His research was specifically to solve for that problem. A molten metal battery at 475C will not be useful in your cell phone. Likewise, Lithium ion cells are not useful for grid level storage.
His breakthrough here is mostly to do with having a purpose for your research instead of the typical and stupid quest for something cool.
I like the presentation but have to disagree with the statement "CdTe is not gonna scale" (and the wider argument on all elements down there not scaling). I think this is highly dependent on exactly how much of it is needed to make the product. How about the 3-way catalyst (which has Platinum in it) that is found in almost every car in the world? How about First Solar's 3 GW manufacturing capacity? If each panel only has 8 grams (www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/first-solar-owns-a-tellurium-mine) and can also be recycled, the total need for Te is not a limiting factor.
I agree, well said!
If nothing is scaleable how do we relay on electrisity, IF its not scaleable, how did voltare "scale" his experiments?
How did that happen?
im not an engineer or a scientist, but i know that everything is scale able, its just a question about, how to!
sience vill always give that anwser.
last but not least sorry for my bad spelling, im a word blind danish technishian.
This guy!
What is the charge and discharge reactions for the molten batteries?
So here we go, closer and closer to a resource-based economy
All economies are, and always have been, resource based.
Graphite is a key element in the Li-ion battery. Huge News from Lomiko - new drill results of 110 Metres of 14.56% Flake Graphite
Go where storage is needed Solar, wind, wave. Peek change
The only problem being a pop lecturer is the fact that someone will always laugh even when he's serious about.
At first this sounds great, but actually I don't get it yet... In the proces of aluminium smelting, a large amount of carbon is also used. So how about the significant amounts of greenhouse gasses emissions that will be the result of this?
I watched the Dr's youtube class before hearing about his battery tech also. Bill Gates and I seem to be the same, except I'm poor.
LOL
Faraday was among the most influential people of his time in science, if he had grown up in America he wouldn't have been able to afford to go to Uni. We need to encourage all people including the poor to go to school and have free university so that the movers and shakers get to university even if they have no money to their name.
Utilities Co's hiked fix lines charges in New Zealand for solar energy generators
TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority), the self regulating energy monopoly created by the federal government that provides power to about 7 states, is starting down that same path. They are lowering the rates for metered usage by a couple of pennies then charging a grid access fee. Net effect is to discourage investment in energy efficiency and alternate energy sources like solar because it make the pay back longer. Now, they just announced they will no longer provide the green power providers incentive as of the end of this year (2019). They never allowed net metering so it was already very difficult to go solar anyway and now they think they are going to kill it off. I have news for them, as soon as storage tech is available we will solve that little problem by taking customers off their grid all together.
Humphrey Davy: Alluminum
His team needs out of the box thinkers too imho!
Brain food. Thanks.
Why can't we use the Hydro-Dams as the Storage, by using the extra renewable energy to pump water upstream into the lakes and then use the Hydro-electricity when needed. This way, we can create more artificial Dams everywhere, perhaps even use the renewable energy to desalinate the water from the sea and then pump this into lakes behind the dams.
The name of what you are describing is gravity based storage. It is already in use in some forms. Cost is the limiting factor. The main focus of Don's presentation is trying to make a system that will cost a lot less than anything that is currently in use.
Guess I missed something. How in hell do you heat these batteries ? Relatively Low Cell Voltages. Not much more the Thermo Galvanic Voltages ?
We humans are class 1 still, class 2 is harvesting all energy from our star,, ect.. We're still just out of cave yesterday Class 1, but we're on our way if the "System" doesn't destroy Man Kind first.
CHART Idea: Can someone make a waste factor chart? Pre-Industrial MAN would be a waste factor of ONE (1) (DO NOT leave out camp fires). By waste I refer to C02 etc., things that in whatever concentrations are harmful to man and other flora and fauna (the planet). The categories would be as follows: Average Post-industrial man, Avg North American, Avg European, Avg Asian, Avg Indian, Avg African, Avg Islander ...Avg Home; Avg Car, Avg Truck, Avg Tanker Ship, Avg Passenger Jet, Avg Military force at war. Avg Military force at peace....use your imagination as to other categories.
By the way, CO2 is not harmful to flora and fauna. They thrive on it.
This guy.
I’ve only listened to about 30% of this guys speech, and as an engineer myself he has told at least 3 lies. The biggest and easiest one to prove is his lie that the AC wall voltage only varies by 1%. Anyone with a cheap voltage meter knows that it’s a lie. I’ve seen the wall voltage be as low as 100 VAC at times, though it seldom get over 120 VAC
He did not talk about voltage, but about the frequency of the sine-wave. In Scandinavia, the voltage can differ by +- 10%, but the frequency can vary at 0.1 hz (49.9 TO 50.1 hz). The frequency is the same all over the grid, controlled by the rotation in the generators, and effected by the load/generation. Therefor a sudden change of the wind can have a significant effect on the frequency. The voltage is influenced by load, distance (resistance in overhead-lines), reactive power and even step-change transformers.
@@jonhschoning well I thought he was talking about amplitude. How else is it likely to blow up your devices?
Funny that he takes cheap shots at Apples engineers but can't master the basic mechanics of a hand held mike.
The problem is , the mice students... they dont know what pain is . They are to weak to tame the shrew , the Gov mule is holding the whip , and the woman are all sick .... its going to hurt when they turn 50 and get out in the real world
12:10 "Education is the antidote to poverty" - no it's not. For all his smartness (which I love): Don doesn't understand poverty.
Here is the solution.
ABOLISHING MONEY is the antidote to poverty.
LOL so make everyone poor? Terrible idea. Education is absolutely the solution to poverty. When you know a valuable skill that people desire, they are willing to pay top dollar for it.
@@starrychloe Money, any kind of money, is an illusion put in place to keep slave class thinkers trudging away on the "job" conveyor and thinking if I can just get more education I can get a better job...etc. Education is absolutely not the solution to poverty. That is the same senseless treadmill thinking that keeps the slaves slaving.
Abolishing YOU is the answer to stupidity.