Very intelligent and innovative man. Can’t help being impressed by him and am so glad he turned his life around. Wish him much success with his book and much happiness.
Lol you know you described the guy I knew decades ago that dabbled in that crap and he was one of the smartest people I know, I mean this guy was a genius but had a drug problem and used his brain power to scam which is sad! Haven't seen him in about 20 years and wondering if he turned his life around
Jeff is a freaking engineer, and seems like a genuinly nice guy. Dude, you're way too smart to be working in a criminal element, or even a print shop. (No disrespect intended to printers).
He saw a window of opportunity and took it. Exploited a minut crack in the system nothing more nothing less. Personally I would have told the Secret Service to get fucked because after I'm out you know I'm going big time like to Russia or China to devalue the dollar 💵💰 even more. Once a criminal always a criminal. He'll be back...on the smack and printing quality fake jack.(Bonus points for an unintentional rhyme)
With the hustlers, I always think “if you would apply this hard work and ingenuity to legit enterprises you’d be killin’ life.” I mean, he’s doing this shit while on heroin and still making top-notch counterfeits.
@Aaron B what defines legit? I get what he did lowers the value of a dollar for all of us, but is his crime any worse than the federal government printing phony money they can't back while increasing the federal deficit every day? The point where the law makers and law enforcers stop playing by the rules is the point where outlaws become legit in my opinion.
Really interesting interview. I hate to say it but what a great artist he has to be to do this. Artists always see the flaws in their work. Makes me wonder what someone would be capable of if using his skills for the good of society. Glad he’s cleaned up mainly for his kids sake.
right? it makes me wonder what kind of art would be out there if becoming a well-compensated artist was more accessible, or a more possible goal for more people.
As a fellow artist…Having the Secret Service agree to reduce your sentence to make training videos for them is one of the highest level of recognition a true artist can achieve. What you did was illegal, sure. Doesn’t mean it’s not art. Looking forward to reading your book
@@jaydubya3698 True, a real supreme technician, impossible for me not to feel a "kind of respect" - I don't advocate it. he asked about the lessons to learn, forgot the biggest & most obvious "quit while you're ahead". Easier said than done, ultimate self-discipline required. Not a real career choice.
Arthur Williams Jr had a book written on him that supposedly goes into the process of how he does things. Then there's that Canadian guy, who's supposedly the "best" fake maker.
I am an engineer in the graphic arts industry. My family has been in the industry for over 100 years. I am competent in all pre production software, and processes, all the way back to handset type, to modern day image setters / plate setters. I can run letterpress, die-cutters and the biggest of multi-color presses, including all of the bindery. It is a VERY intensive trade that requires a very steep knowledge curve. This guy KNOWS his shit, and is very talented. I wish him the best. When he says the quality bothered him, I can understand that, as only somebody in our industry that has an eye for such particulars. I would have loved to see his owrk however. Fascinating how he described he did it.
@Brent Barnhart - _/Thumbs up/_ Reading your post from Glasgow. Your currency is different from ours. I was told years ago that British counterfeiters use egg whites on bank notes to give the paper bank note the same texture. Grippy and thicker feel. I find the technical intricacies and know-how really interesting. I knew a U.S. billionaire I met in Lisbon that showed me their US notes and explained they were “cotton based paper”. Britain now has plastic notes which are strange, flimsy and tear easy. Your job is extremely interesting. && skilled. You have a proper job in fact.
@@De5O54 Thanks. US Money would have been very easy for my company to duplicate years ago. But most counterfeiters don't have million dollar presses. It's normally done using crap machines, or by hand as he described. NOW that use money has all kinds of plastic strips, and holograms, etc. "personally" I would say that was near impossible. Listening to this guy, FASTINATING. But knowing his skill in our industry, understanding of design, screens, and then his just plain ingenuity is amazing. As you said, the trickiest part is THE PAPER. It is NOT, paper US money is 75% cotton and 25% linen. AND, it has red and maybe some blue fleck fibers inside of it. On very rare occasions, in my entire career, we printed on paper that was very close to money. (It was very expensive.) Not paper but cotton, etc. and we had to REGISTER to buy it, and account for every single sheet, all waste, disposal, etc. it wasn't exact, but close enough it could have been the basis to counterfeit and fool people. I have traveled the world extensively as both an entertainer and an engineer, but I have not been to Germany since 1986 when I was performing with an 80 piece orchestra from the USA. I remember as a 16 year old boy at the time, I was enthralled by the "McBeer" at McDonalds.
Come and work with me! I have something different that isn't so predictable , for a project. Mind you, you're probably comfy in your présent situation, no need to go risking everything for a get rich quick idea with someone you don't know. But I bet,now and again you make yer own money, not to pass off as real, but just for the sake of the ART of it... like a perfect bill but George Washington or whoever has a runny nose or a five o'clock shadow or a spliff, anything, but perfectly done. You do stuff like that occassionally ? It must be easier for you with all your uptodate equipment than it was for Jeff. I'd like to share a few beers with someone like you and Jeff, there's loads of stuff I'd like to talk to you about. (That's just presuming you're American... Whatever nationality,am sure you get the jist !)
@@sumtxflygrl1 : Unlike Matt, Mark let's his interview subjects talk when he asks a question with interrupting and going off on a tangent like Matt does.
Best interview in a while. He sounds like a cool dude. Glad he got off dope. While not an ideal childhood for his kids, I bet he bought them all kinds of nice things with all that cash.
With the ingenuity, intelligence, leadership skills, meticulousness, energy, collaboration, ect.that went into this- this man could've been a CEO worth millions! It just seems so counter-intuitive to not create something sustainable i mean can you imagine?? Its ingenious!
"is it stressful spending counterfeit money?" No mark it stressful spending real money we all have to work too damn hard for. Now that shits stressful.
That's for sure...I break a little inside everytime I break a hundred....because I know it's gone after that. Getting tough out here for the lower class, even some middle class.
Years ago I had saved for about two years to get a guitar that I really wanted, super high-end. I almost had a panic attack buying it. What was supposed to be one of the best days of my life was anything but. I was second-guessing myself the entire time on the drive to the store and while I was in the store and after I got home I almost didn’t want to touch it initially. I’m glad I got over that and I still have the instrument and I love it and play it all the time, but there was nothing fun about that day.
@@riceflatpicking4954 I can relate ten fold. About a year ago I spent a good chunk on a custom subwoofer box for my car as I am into the car audio hobby. I knew the enclosure would be worth it as well as the craftsmanship....BUT....man was it hard to let go. Always lurking in the back of my head was the thought "should have I spent that much" or "that could've went towards mortgage or an emergency " All in all, I am super happy after all is said and done and do not regret it one bit. Glad your guitar purchase gave you some happiness and enjoyment....that's what it's about, that's what makes it worth it.
I agree with this. multiple times I’ve squirreled away large amounts of money for things and there’s always this sick feeling like fuck it I don’t wanna buy it or shouldn’t of bought it
I loved this. Couldn't stop watching once i started. This man has lived. The ultimate addiction. Money. He had two of the biggest demons which are opiates and currency. It must be very hard to start living a normal life after opening pandoras box like that. God bless. thank you Mark for sharing
Man I know just opiates alone will absolutely destroy your life in the blink of an eye. You’ll go down with a smile of falseness because when it’s flowing through you… everything is all good… as soon as it stops… it is living hell and everything you’ve been putting off plus the worst physical and mental anguish all hits you like a Mack truck… at once. It’s the worst thing to ever happen to myself and I’m sure millions of other people can relate to me and everything I’m saying.
Interesting interview! My dad was in the printing trade in Montreal QC and once someone printed off a sheet of 20’s, for fun, no one thought anything of it- till the provincial police showed up and started asking questions, I guess all the “scrap” paper would go to a facility to be shredded, and someone must have alerted the police… I think the gentleman in the Interview printing the money on bible paper is Gold 🤣 I wish him well
I love how at the end when asked if he will ever go back to printing money or if he thinks about it he answered so honestly. "Back there in the fantasy part of my brain you bet, but I would get caught instantly so I can never go back" or however he said it. What a smart dude. Just went the wrong direction in life. Hope he does well.
I want to know if Mark knows that ‘Soft White Underbelly’ refers to a crocodile. _/scratches chin/_ Really stunning monochrome photo images notwithstanding. (I am a camera-head). Yes, aye, a huge diverse variety of folks and folkettes.
Mark, I’ve watched many many many of your interviews. I have in the past thought your questions you asked your guests were not so well thought out and somewhat too scripted. The questions you asked the counterfeiter were spot on. Great work keep going please and thankyou
Man I'm smart as hell I wish people would stop saying that crap being smart doesn't mean anything today, you have to also be able to follow the rules or be willing to break the rules, but when you're smart enough you know it doesn't matter if you follow the rules but you're too smart to be evil, you get stuck in a no mans land that leaves you marginal at best. Just the act of questioning anything will get you fired easily, if you're not questioning everything then life goes more smoothly, but an intelligent thinking person can't just magically flip a switch that makes you not question and think, because you'd think before you turn it off, it's impossible.
Love this channel. It's rare to see youtube channels today without all the BS in the beginning of the host saying, "hey it's your boy blah blah bringing it to you, blah blah blah" crap, thumbnail pointing to something with a horrified look on their face, virtue signaling all over the place in their intro, etc... and where the host isn't reading ads in the middle of the video and all that. this channel it's click on the link, right to the interview. i hope you never change the format.
I find it amazing he’s still allowed to work in the printing field. I’d think that might be a stipulation of being released or probation. This was a fascinating interview.
Great interview, thank you for sharing Jeff. Stay strong bro, keep away from relapsing as I know you can! Would be great if you wanted to come back for an update video in the future. Hope you'll stick to the straight and narrow 'til then- and remember, mistakes are human and ok- the important thing is to strive for continuouous betterment over time. Since this is more of a marathon than a race to the finish line, etc. ^^ Take care, much respect and love from Sweden!
@@janecoe9407 . Sometimes you get a bit lazy cos you need to get something done quick, you take the chance, if it means you got the required result an hour or so sooner. Being junk sick can make you make short cuts you wouldnt do if you werent in such a state of URGENCE. In the end though, it was someone else who turned him over.
@Nick Long. Where did you find the other interviews, please ? I can't just Google "Jeff"!!😅 Mind you, I suppose, i should try "reformed counterfitter Jeff", that might work. 👍
So fascinating. I was a gambling counselor for 1-800-gambler in CA and we had a guy who had been released after a 6 yr stint for counterfeiting. He was mandated to go to GA meetings after doing a 90 day IOP. HE ABSOLUTELY loved the attention he would get from the whole group when he told his stories. He explained it the same way as this guy does. With the spray can and pressing paper together. The dude I knew was a commercial fisherman and when he would be in the middle of the pacific he would order this specific paper from Germany and have it delivered to random addresses in Hawaii. He would wait outside the address and wait for the delivery. He said the hardest part was laundering it. He sold a bunch to a dude, and that was what ended up getting him caught. He printed over 6million he said.....
Very true. Even with murder. People usually get caught because they either open their mouth or, after a highly successful run, don’t know when to stop.
Mark, not sure that you take requests, but if you do, could you consider finding someone who is a debt dodger? Someone with student, medical, or credit card debt and fled the US? I adore your work. This interview was wonderful.
@Eidelmania Being creative and artistic produces art. His art in this specific situation was the counterfeit money. What I was commenting on was that art runs in his genetics. To look at the world and recognize pattern, colors, mixing different materials to copy /paste something you see to its highest possible duplicate. This is amazing. I have an eye for art, colors, etc... I can't describe the reasons why something looks pleasant or the right color scheme, I just go by intuition. And most of the times a lot of people comment on how my artistic perspective is beautiful. I see that in him. I hope he uses his skills in a productive way... He's an artist at heart. PS. Do you know how difficult it is to color match an eyeshadow to recreate the hallow effect? Even to have the idea to use make up. Mind blowing.
Jeff is my best friend. He actually is a good artist. Hit him up and buy one of his hand drawn $100 bills. Jeff is also a great guitar player with an understanding of chemistry.
@@APX1138 . I already found him really interesting and now I just really wanna get to know him , play some tunes and hang out with him. But I wouldnt wanna lead him back down any of the wrong paths.
Jeff I’m surprised we didn’t meet or cross paths. I lived in Pinellas County for 28yrs and lived in New Port Richie for several years. I was all over St. Pete, Clearwater etc….Even went to St. Petersburg Junior College. Now it’s St. Petersburg College. Got my Associates Degree there. It’s good to here your testimony my friend 🙂 I was no Angel myself back then. Pills was my thing, opiates👍😄 I wish you the best my brother in Christ ❤️🙏😊
Con men (and women) are the best kind of SWU interviews, to me. This was fascinating -- he was so articulate and offered such elaborate details, down to using Bibles for the proper kind of paper! It sounds as if he was able to parlay getting caught into getting clean and becoming a better (and more famous) person, but I was left wondering if he thinks it all was worth it.
I used to think addiction was exclusive to people that weren't smart, like myself. I thought how could someone intelligent be susceptible to such insane and idiotic behaviour. After going to a few NA meetings I realised that this disease (of the mind) doesn't discriminate at all, and that actually a great number of addicts are very intelligent.
Hugs. I hope you're doing well in your recovery. Drugs definitely do not discriminate. I like to point to the example of Prince. He had all the wealth and fame, was deeper in his faith later in life, and still couldn't beat his addictions.
Wow quite a story, with his amount of knowledge, artistic ability, creativeness, his family life, the drug dealers and add secret service to the mix there is enough there for a Netflix documentary
Jeff your way too talented for living a criminal life. Be a good man for your precious family. Nice to meet you . Thanks Mark for introducing us to Jeff 😊
That is what my arresting officer told me as well… I think that’s why they “liked” me so much… they said it was rare to come across a professional counterfeiter and they spend most of their days tracking down teenagers and prop movie money…
There is a point at which craftsmanship becomes artistry. This fellow has reached it. He should sit down with the Coen brothers and cook up a film script or two.
Good afternoon its 12.43 here in Aberdeen Scotland another foggy grey day here only 8'c . Loving this interview this guy is so clever . Just got to the end what a story! Working with the secret service wow , i cant wait till the book comes out on love from Scotland ❤️
I loved this interview! I did very similar with prescription pads back in the day. It was the introduction of the control substance database that ended my run in 2011. And I would definitely buy his book. His story reminds me of one my favorite movies "Catch me if you can " :)
My mom use to forge scripts as well & steal real doctors pads from doctors visits as well back n the day but she changed her life around cause she got caught. I wonder if it was easy then cause of doctors writing on pads & people learned how to write like the doctor.
@@jrtaylor2288 wow! My mom end up going to jail but not for a long stay on a few days cause my mom was also sick and couldn’t walk the day they found her because she had been hiding. I would call my parents functional because nobody would or could ever tell because my dad had a good job kept my mom and me and brother together ect. I just remember all this because I was a kid and never forget the day they came to get her to go to jail🥺it wasn’t my father doing any of the forging stuff he was actually disappointed but when ur back been together for years I guess he stuck beside but just didn’t participate in her wrong doings. I could tell u so many stories she’s told me lol, of how her and her buddies would get away with it. It was that easy huh!
So his sentence knocked down to ten months for agreeing to make a how-to video for the secret service boys to watch? Hmm, I'm thinking some of his old "friends" might be doing some of his time for him.
Awesome interview! Jeff who knows if you will even read this. The fact that you were printing on bible paper is hilarious. Did you used to roll joints with bible paper too? lol I had to ask cause my buddy used to do that while traveling. We found a $100 bill once in a bible. You're an interesting guy with an interesting story. Best of luck with the new job and future endeavours.
If he hadn't been busted by an informant, which was probably not how they first found out about him, he still would have been caught pretty easily. He said he traveled around to spend, but spent most of it in his hometown. Just map out where the bills have been found, start tracing back to local stores, review the cameras, done. Having the informant just makes it easier to prove, vs. trying to establish exactly what bills he used at the store, getting warrants with just the video, ect.
I had 2 buddies that got into counterfieting in college and ended up getting busted by the secret service. They were turning 5 dollar bills into 50s. Had the $3k laser printer and the press and everyting. We were all strung out and when that money started coming in it made all our habits way worse. That led to selling a lot of drugs as well. A lot of drug dralers burned with fake money made a lot of enemies and lost friends, with access to that type of power, if you will. My buddies were taking taxis to get around out of paranoia, nd it turned out that some of the taxi drivers who drove them were actually undercover. They werent interested in weed or drugs they wanted the fake money. When i recall that time (10 years ago) its so wild to think that actually happened. Awesome video as usual Mark
Those opiate eyes are hard to shade without Sunny Southern Sunnies 😬 but you the man Jeff. Love this story when you told it on koncrete ! Stay well brother
Very intelligent and innovative man. Can’t help being impressed by him and am so glad he turned his life around. Wish him much success with his book and much happiness.
Lol you know you described the guy I knew decades ago that dabbled in that crap and he was one of the smartest people I know, I mean this guy was a genius but had a drug problem and used his brain power to scam which is sad! Haven't seen him in about 20 years and wondering if he turned his life around
Drugs kill in the end
Can you have him demonstrate the process in the next interview, just for educational purposes? 😂
Lol
Well played Sir.....
😂😂😂 right I would like to learn just for educational purposes as well haha
Asking for a friend 🤣
@@tfptravel.food.peace.3788 haha 😊
Jeff is a freaking engineer, and seems like a genuinly nice guy. Dude, you're way too smart to be working in a criminal element, or even a print shop. (No disrespect intended to printers).
He saw a window of opportunity and took it. Exploited a minut crack in the system nothing more nothing less. Personally I would have told the Secret Service to get fucked because after I'm out you know I'm going big time like to Russia or China to devalue the dollar 💵💰 even more. Once a criminal always a criminal. He'll be back...on the smack and printing quality fake jack.(Bonus points for an unintentional rhyme)
He could own a chain of print shops.
With the hustlers, I always think “if you would apply this hard work and ingenuity to legit enterprises you’d be killin’ life.” I mean, he’s doing this shit while on heroin and still making top-notch counterfeits.
@Aaron B what defines legit? I get what he did lowers the value of a dollar for all of us, but is his crime any worse than the federal government printing phony money they can't back while increasing the federal deficit every day? The point where the law makers and law enforcers stop playing by the rules is the point where outlaws become legit in my opinion.
He could probably get a job working for the Federal Reserve. 😆
Really interesting interview. I hate to say it but what a great artist he has to be to do this. Artists always see the flaws in their work. Makes me wonder what someone would be capable of if using his skills for the good of society. Glad he’s cleaned up mainly for his kids sake.
My exact thoughts
Sounds like the ending of catch me if you can.
right? it makes me wonder what kind of art would be out there if becoming a well-compensated artist was more accessible, or a more possible goal for more people.
Did he?
Makes me wonder que eres mas wango
As a fellow artist…Having the Secret Service agree to reduce your sentence to make training videos for them is one of the highest level of recognition a true artist can achieve. What you did was illegal, sure. Doesn’t mean it’s not art. Looking forward to reading your book
That is not recognition,its hilarious😂😂 Those dumb asses😂
Artists are the biggest narcissists on the planet.
Craft, not art
@@jaydubya3698 True, a real supreme technician, impossible for me not to feel a "kind of respect" - I don't advocate it. he asked about the lessons to learn, forgot the biggest & most obvious "quit while you're ahead". Easier said than done, ultimate self-discipline required. Not a real career choice.
@@daffyduk77 Exactly. He sounds like a he's a master craftsman, but not an artist.
This guys seems brilliant. Hopefully he uses his inteligente towards good things, moving forward.
Yea fr! Like starting an only fans but we pay to learn how to make the money 😁
He will do very well if he can stay sober.
This might be my favorite interview ever. Definitely one of. Thank you
Man this guy is ridiculously clever.
I agree, he's definitely not your average criminal/drug addict.
Arthur Williams Jr had a book written on him that supposedly goes into the process of how he does things. Then there's that Canadian guy, who's supposedly the "best" fake maker.
@@timaosborn wow
@@timaosborn yeah right
@@timaosborn noob
I am an engineer in the graphic arts industry. My family has been in the industry for over 100 years. I am competent in all pre production software, and processes, all the way back to handset type, to modern day image setters / plate setters. I can run letterpress, die-cutters and the biggest of multi-color presses, including all of the bindery. It is a VERY intensive trade that requires a very steep knowledge curve. This guy KNOWS his shit, and is very talented. I wish him the best. When he says the quality bothered him, I can understand that, as only somebody in our industry that has an eye for such particulars. I would have loved to see his owrk however. Fascinating how he described he did it.
@Brent Barnhart - _/Thumbs up/_ Reading your post from Glasgow. Your currency is different from ours. I was told years ago that British counterfeiters use egg whites on bank notes to give the paper bank note the same texture. Grippy and thicker feel. I find the technical intricacies and know-how really interesting.
I knew a U.S. billionaire I met in Lisbon that showed me their US notes and explained they were “cotton based paper”. Britain now has plastic notes which are strange, flimsy and tear easy.
Your job is extremely interesting. && skilled. You have a proper job in fact.
Interesting...
@@De5O54 Thanks. US Money would have been very easy for my company to duplicate years ago. But most counterfeiters don't have million dollar presses. It's normally done using crap machines, or by hand as he described. NOW that use money has all kinds of plastic strips, and holograms, etc. "personally" I would say that was near impossible. Listening to this guy, FASTINATING. But knowing his skill in our industry, understanding of design, screens, and then his just plain ingenuity is amazing. As you said, the trickiest part is THE PAPER. It is NOT, paper US money is 75% cotton and 25% linen. AND, it has red and maybe some blue fleck fibers inside of it. On very rare occasions, in my entire career, we printed on paper that was very close to money. (It was very expensive.) Not paper but cotton, etc. and we had to REGISTER to buy it, and account for every single sheet, all waste, disposal, etc. it wasn't exact, but close enough it could have been the basis to counterfeit and fool people. I have traveled the world extensively as both an entertainer and an engineer, but I have not been to Germany since 1986 when I was performing with an 80 piece orchestra from the USA. I remember as a 16 year old boy at the time, I was enthralled by the "McBeer" at McDonalds.
Come and work with me! I have something different that isn't so predictable , for a project.
Mind you, you're probably comfy in your présent situation, no need to go risking everything for a get rich quick idea with someone you don't know.
But I bet,now and again you make yer own money, not to pass off as real, but just for the sake of the ART of it... like a perfect bill but George Washington or whoever has a runny nose or a five o'clock shadow or a spliff, anything, but perfectly done. You do stuff like that occassionally ? It must be easier for you with all your uptodate equipment than it was for Jeff. I'd like to share a few beers with someone like you and Jeff, there's loads of stuff I'd like to talk to you about.
(That's just presuming you're American... Whatever nationality,am sure you get the jist !)
@@letuswrap 😆 it is, indeed.😉
I’ve watched many of your interviews and this may be the best one. This dude is authentic, clever and overall very interesting.
Matt Cox interviewed him too
@@sumtxflygrl1 : Unlike Matt, Mark let's his interview subjects talk when he asks a question with interrupting and going off on a tangent like Matt does.
too bad he didnt take his smarts and finish college.
Diploma does what 2day
He is at a better lexel of opportunities
Mark your content is so original and exposes the human condition in ways that blow me away.
Please keep this going bro your great at it!
Best interview in a while. He sounds like a cool dude. Glad he got off dope. While not an ideal childhood for his kids, I bet he bought them all kinds of nice things with all that cash.
He's still getting high.
@@tashal6739 you assume. Did you actually listen to his story?
Dude definitely seems like he's feeling a little sick at the moment.....could be wrong though
The way his nose is running...seems like he did some Coke or Amphetamine before the Interview 😅😳
@@DJPHARONEhe has a cold. He flat out said he is clean now.
With the ingenuity, intelligence, leadership skills, meticulousness, energy, collaboration, ect.that went into this- this man could've been a CEO worth millions! It just seems so counter-intuitive to not create something sustainable i mean can you imagine?? Its ingenious!
"is it stressful spending counterfeit money?"
No mark it stressful spending real money we all have to work too damn hard for. Now that shits stressful.
That's for sure...I break a little inside everytime I break a hundred....because I know it's gone after that. Getting tough out here for the lower class, even some middle class.
Years ago I had saved for about two years to get a guitar that I really wanted, super high-end. I almost had a panic attack buying it. What was supposed to be one of the best days of my life was anything but. I was second-guessing myself the entire time on the drive to the store and while I was in the store and after I got home I almost didn’t want to touch it initially. I’m glad I got over that and I still have the instrument and I love it and play it all the time, but there was nothing fun about that day.
@@riceflatpicking4954 I can relate ten fold. About a year ago I spent a good chunk on a custom subwoofer box for my car as I am into the car audio hobby. I knew the enclosure would be worth it as well as the craftsmanship....BUT....man was it hard to let go. Always lurking in the back of my head was the thought "should have I spent that much" or "that could've went towards mortgage or an emergency "
All in all, I am super happy after all is said and done and do not regret it one bit. Glad your guitar purchase gave you some happiness and enjoyment....that's what it's about, that's what makes it worth it.
Lol yea but at least with real money you don't have to worry about the feds kicking in your door.
I agree with this. multiple times I’ve squirreled away large amounts of money for things and there’s always this sick feeling like fuck it I don’t wanna buy it or shouldn’t of bought it
I loved this. Couldn't stop watching once i started. This man has lived. The ultimate addiction. Money. He had two of the biggest demons which are opiates and currency. It must be very hard to start living a normal life after opening pandoras box like that. God bless. thank you Mark for sharing
Catch 22...
Jeffs going to be okay.
Man I know just opiates alone will absolutely destroy your life in the blink of an eye. You’ll go down with a smile of falseness because when it’s flowing through you… everything is all good… as soon as it stops… it is living hell and everything you’ve been putting off plus the worst physical and mental anguish all hits you like a Mack truck… at once. It’s the worst thing to ever happen to myself and I’m sure millions of other people can relate to me and everything I’m saying.
@@FLINTmitten810I have never done them, but I still feel you on this entirely.
"The [deficit] spending is the [inflation] tax." -Ron Paul ua-cam.com/video/hx16a72j__8/v-deo.html
Amazing story and interview! “Don’t print money, I guess” lmao perfect ending!
Yea you can tell he doesn’t regret printing the money, just the cause of it, which was being on drugs
Don’t Print 💵 I guess lol 💀💀
Interesting interview! My dad was in the printing trade in Montreal QC and once someone printed off a sheet of 20’s, for fun, no one thought anything of it- till the provincial police showed up and started asking questions, I guess all the “scrap” paper would go to a facility to be shredded, and someone must have alerted the police… I think the gentleman in the Interview printing the money on bible paper is Gold 🤣 I wish him well
It's amazing how many true geniuses are wasted by the legal world because of the barriers to entry. Love these interviews.
When desperation meets smart & talented
the fact that Jeff was doing and getting away with the whole “catch me if you can” thing on BIBLE paper is 😊 to me 👍.
In god we trust
One of the top 5 most interesting stories, in my opinion!! Imagine being so blessed, at something so illegal!
These are the kind of professional homeowner tips we need.
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Hope wranglerstar gets psychiatric help before he goes full on unabomber... 😢
"Follow your passion and money will follow" LITERALLY!!!
I love how at the end when asked if he will ever go back to printing money or if he thinks about it he answered so honestly. "Back there in the fantasy part of my brain you bet, but I would get caught instantly so I can never go back" or however he said it. What a smart dude. Just went the wrong direction in life. Hope he does well.
Artist's always know where the flaws are.
The variety of people that have come on the show over the years is amazing. It shows how diverse the human species really is. Great episode. Thanks
I want to know if Mark knows that ‘Soft White Underbelly’ refers to a crocodile.
_/scratches chin/_
Really stunning monochrome photo images notwithstanding. (I am a camera-head).
Yes, aye, a huge diverse variety of folks and folkettes.
@@De5O54 I wouldn't be surprised but Soft White Underbelly is an old reference to the rock group Blue Oyster Cult 😉
One of the most interesting SWU interviews I've seen yet.
These interviews are always so fascinating. It's true that everyone has a story to tell.
Mark, I’ve watched many many many of your interviews. I have in the past thought your questions you asked your guests were not so well thought out and somewhat too scripted. The questions you asked the counterfeiter were spot on. Great work keep going please and thankyou
That’s a bright man right there,things could have been so different for him.
Things could still be different for him.
Man I'm smart as hell I wish people would stop saying that crap being smart doesn't mean anything today, you have to also be able to follow the rules or be willing to break the rules, but when you're smart enough you know it doesn't matter if you follow the rules but you're too smart to be evil, you get stuck in a no mans land that leaves you marginal at best. Just the act of questioning anything will get you fired easily, if you're not questioning everything then life goes more smoothly, but an intelligent thinking person can't just magically flip a switch that makes you not question and think, because you'd think before you turn it off, it's impossible.
If he had figured out his niche in the system legally like Mark, he'd likely be a millionaire right now. It's still possible man.
Someone who says "samwich" isn't bright enough to not get caught eventually.
He served like 9 months 😂😂 bro got away with it tbh. .
I am glad that Jeff is in his present situation. Clean, good job, making amends with Family.
They should make this mans story into a movie one day....good luck in your future endeavors.....god bless you
Good idea, I like!
There is actually a film in development
@@jeffreypatrickturner name?
He could still use his skills as an artist. What a great media to play with
Gm swu family all over the world. Thank you mark for all the great interview.
Thx very much but it’s 8:30pm here in Australia 👍
Love this channel. It's rare to see youtube channels today without all the BS in the beginning of the host saying, "hey it's your boy blah blah bringing it to you, blah blah blah" crap, thumbnail pointing to something with a horrified look on their face, virtue signaling all over the place in their intro, etc... and where the host isn't reading ads in the middle of the video and all that. this channel it's click on the link, right to the interview. i hope you never change the format.
I feel like, if I was in his presence, my I.Q. points would go up. Incredible man, Incredible interview. THANK YOU❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks!
What an interview. Thanks for sharing.
This man is brilliant, he is leagues above other counterfeiters.
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not really
Damn working in retail I don’t know if I would have noticed the bills he made or not. What an artist sticking it to the man.
Very intelligent and thoughtful guy. Good interview, I hope he's really sober.
Agree, all the sniffling makes you wonder
he looked a lil sick......maybe just a cold like we all get though......
@@kirkdunn1379 I'm guessing it's allergy season in Knoxville, TN, because I live in Nashville, and pollen counts are high here.
Dude is razor sharp. Great interview!
@@standingvertical3048 You DO know everyone has a right to his/her opinion??? Be gone.
This guy is a genius and his story is so fascinating. I hope he finds a passion project that earns him big money legitimately ♥️♥️♥️
Books and movies are coming. Follow Jeff.
I find it amazing he’s still allowed to work in the printing field. I’d think that might be a stipulation of being released or probation. This was a fascinating interview.
I know right! Was thinking the same. But seems like if he does it again I’m thinkin they will know it’s him.
I wonder if his lawyer was stressed out when he handed over the cash for the retainer?
@@Bdamazyn 😂😂
I have watched so many of these videos. This is the first time I started it over again right after watching it. Can't wait for the book!
Great interview, thank you for sharing Jeff. Stay strong bro, keep away from relapsing as I know you can!
Would be great if you wanted to come back for an update video in the future. Hope you'll stick to the straight and narrow 'til then- and remember, mistakes are human and ok- the important thing is to strive for continuouous betterment over time. Since this is more of a marathon than a race to the finish line, etc. ^^
Take care, much respect and love from Sweden!
I've watched every interview jeff has done. Im glad hes turned everything around good luck to everything you do
Yeah he's a fascinating dude.
Thanks!
@@wrath231 HE IS very cunning and clever, BUT shopping in same area regularly was dumb lol. his drug problem took him down.
@@janecoe9407 . Sometimes you get a bit lazy cos you need to get something done quick, you take the chance, if it means you got the required result an hour or so sooner. Being junk sick can make you make short cuts you wouldnt do if you werent in such a state of URGENCE. In the end though, it was someone else who turned him over.
@Nick Long. Where did you find the other interviews, please ? I can't just Google "Jeff"!!😅 Mind you, I suppose, i should try "reformed counterfitter Jeff", that might work. 👍
As usual, you've interviewed another winner. Always interesting.
So fascinating. I was a gambling counselor for 1-800-gambler in CA and we had a guy who had been released after a 6 yr stint for counterfeiting. He was mandated to go to GA meetings after doing a 90 day IOP. HE ABSOLUTELY loved the attention he would get from the whole group when he told his stories. He explained it the same way as this guy does. With the spray can and pressing paper together. The dude I knew was a commercial fisherman and when he would be in the middle of the pacific he would order this specific paper from Germany and have it delivered to random addresses in Hawaii. He would wait outside the address and wait for the delivery. He said the hardest part was laundering it. He sold a bunch to a dude, and that was what ended up getting him caught. He printed over 6million he said.....
Who is it? We probably know of him.
Just goes to show you, if you are planning on committing a crime, tell no one and be secret with only yourself and take it to your grave
Very true. Even with murder. People usually get caught because they either open their mouth or, after a highly successful run, don’t know when to stop.
I used to live in Knoxville... From Nashville. Thanks Mark. Really wish I could be on your show one day.
Mark, not sure that you take requests, but if you do, could you consider finding someone who is a debt dodger? Someone with student, medical, or credit card debt and fled the US? I adore your work. This interview was wonderful.
A modern day Catch Me If You Can. Wow! Mark, you have to help this man get a movie deal!
I’ve actually already optioned the rights to my story to a production company and there is a film in development now!
Definitely a smart guy. Glad you worked out a deal and have a good job now
If hes able to counterfeit at such a high , successful scale, imagine what positive things he is actually capable of
This guy is so smart. I hope he finds a way to turn those skills into a great career somehow
fascinating interview, one of the best yet
I want to see the secret service training video
Why is this Comment section for time & weather reporting ?!
8:58am here in Atl, with a light mist outside.😄
😂 I was like "must be the current YT comment trend"
I enjoy these non drug addict interviews. Fascinating what happens in people’s lives
Me too. Love this channel
Non addict, non sexual abuse, more career type ones easier to hear.
He said he was a drug addict.
Dude is a genius.
This dude is a straight genius!
Thanks!
Lmfao I love this. "We'd wake up in the morning and print." If only life were that simple.
i worked in retail off commission for years and this is the type customer to unexpectedly drop a bag 😂💰
7:45. Dude may have some problems going shopping after this video, lol.
Lots of details… I’ll have to rewatch this this evening.
I love how artistic he is. Although he used his talent 'for bad', he's still an amazing artist.
@Eidelmania Being creative and artistic produces art. His art in this specific situation was the counterfeit money. What I was commenting on was that art runs in his genetics. To look at the world and recognize pattern, colors, mixing different materials to copy /paste something you see to its highest possible duplicate. This is amazing. I have an eye for art, colors, etc... I can't describe the reasons why something looks pleasant or the right color scheme, I just go by intuition. And most of the times a lot of people comment on how my artistic perspective is beautiful. I see that in him. I hope he uses his skills in a productive way... He's an artist at heart.
PS. Do you know how difficult it is to color match an eyeshadow to recreate the hallow effect? Even to have the idea to use make up. Mind blowing.
@Eidelmania Making money
Jeff is my best friend. He actually is a good artist. Hit him up and buy one of his hand drawn $100 bills. Jeff is also a great guitar player with an understanding of chemistry.
@@APX1138 . I already found him really interesting and now I just really wanna get to know him , play some tunes and hang out with him.
But I wouldnt wanna lead him back down any of the wrong paths.
Bad? The government prints money every day. Especially this new Biden administration. Not being political just telling facts.
Jeff I’m surprised we didn’t meet or cross paths. I lived in Pinellas County for 28yrs and lived in New Port Richie for several years. I was all over St. Pete, Clearwater etc….Even went to St. Petersburg Junior College. Now it’s St. Petersburg College. Got my Associates Degree there. It’s good to here your testimony my friend 🙂 I was no Angel myself back then. Pills was my thing, opiates👍😄 I wish you the best my brother in Christ ❤️🙏😊
Nice! I went to St. Petersburg College as well…
Me too. Lived in Pinellas from '81-'96. Seminole High. SPJC. USF.
Great interview and story.
As a long time scofflaw who never did time... this dude is great. And smart too! I hope he keeps up the positive path!
Con men (and women) are the best kind of SWU interviews, to me. This was fascinating -- he was so articulate and offered such elaborate details, down to using Bibles for the proper kind of paper! It sounds as if he was able to parlay getting caught into getting clean and becoming a better (and more famous) person, but I was left wondering if he thinks it all was worth it.
Thanks!
I used to think addiction was exclusive to people that weren't smart, like myself. I thought how could someone intelligent be susceptible to such insane and idiotic behaviour. After going to a few NA meetings I realised that this disease (of the mind) doesn't discriminate at all, and that actually a great number of addicts are very intelligent.
Hugs. I hope you're doing well in your recovery. Drugs definitely do not discriminate. I like to point to the example of Prince. He had all the wealth and fame, was deeper in his faith later in life, and still couldn't beat his addictions.
Wow quite a story, with his amount of knowledge, artistic ability, creativeness, his family life, the drug dealers and add secret service to the mix there is enough there for a Netflix documentary
Solved a problem for himself by being creative. Got to respect the hustle.
Jeff your way too talented for living a criminal life. Be a good man for your precious family. Nice to meet you . Thanks Mark for introducing us to Jeff 😊
my friend is a Secret Service agent in Nashville, according to her, most counterfeiters are middle class teenagers with access to high-grade printers.
That is what my arresting officer told me as well… I think that’s why they “liked” me so much… they said it was rare to come across a professional counterfeiter and they spend most of their days tracking down teenagers and prop movie money…
Fantastic interview!
There is a point at which craftsmanship becomes artistry. This fellow has reached it. He should sit down with the Coen brothers and cook up a film script or two.
I googled his name and he also has an interview with vlad. I'm going to watch all his interviews.
Good afternoon its 12.43 here in Aberdeen Scotland another foggy grey day here only 8'c . Loving this interview this guy is so clever . Just got to the end what a story! Working with the secret service wow , i cant wait till the book comes out on love from Scotland ❤️
Hallo from Glasgow.
I genuinely was waiting for him to say that he got charged with something and that he used the counterfeit notes as bail money.
@@De5O54 Hello from Dublin. Your answer is pure Irvine Welsh! Even though your a "Weegie". :-)
Great interview, Jeff is an extremely interesting person! Glad he got sober and is doing well!
Thank you!
I loved this interview! I did very similar with prescription pads back in the day. It was the introduction of the control substance database that ended my run in 2011. And I would definitely buy his book. His story reminds me of one my favorite movies "Catch me if you can " :)
Yup, I learned how to forage Rx's, among other things. So glad that life is behind me.
My mom use to forge scripts as well & steal real doctors pads from doctors visits as well back n the day but she changed her life around cause she got caught. I wonder if it was easy then cause of doctors writing on pads & people learned how to write like the doctor.
@Haleema 3814 It was easy, you nailed it, I did that to back in the day
@@AliciaM5555 Me too
@@jrtaylor2288 wow! My mom end up going to jail but not for a long stay on a few days cause my mom was also sick and couldn’t walk the day they found her because she had been hiding. I would call my parents functional because nobody would or could ever tell because my dad had a good job kept my mom and me and brother together ect. I just remember all this because I was a kid and never forget the day they came to get her to go to jail🥺it wasn’t my father doing any of the forging stuff he was actually disappointed but when ur back been together for years I guess he stuck beside but just didn’t participate in her wrong doings. I could tell u so many stories she’s told me lol, of how her and her buddies would get away with it. It was that easy huh!
That was your best interview yet. Fascinating guy and I appreciate the information, I was always curious,(not in a bad way) of how it was done.
Wildly interesting. Great interview.
This was easily in my top two favourite episodes
So his sentence knocked down to ten months for agreeing to make a how-to video for the secret service boys to watch? Hmm, I'm thinking some of his old "friends" might be doing some of his time for him.
This dude is gifted. If it were not for the informant, he would still be out there printing money.
Awesome interview! Jeff who knows if you will even read this. The fact that you were printing on bible paper is hilarious. Did you used to roll joints with bible paper too? lol I had to ask cause my buddy used to do that while traveling. We found a $100 bill once in a bible. You're an interesting guy with an interesting story. Best of luck with the new job and future endeavours.
If he hadn't been busted by an informant, which was probably not how they first found out about him, he still would have been caught pretty easily. He said he traveled around to spend, but spent most of it in his hometown. Just map out where the bills have been found, start tracing back to local stores, review the cameras, done. Having the informant just makes it easier to prove, vs. trying to establish exactly what bills he used at the store, getting warrants with just the video, ect.
Great interview what a real dude
Thanks
I had 2 buddies that got into counterfieting in college and ended up getting busted by the secret service. They were turning 5 dollar bills into 50s. Had the $3k laser printer and the press and everyting. We were all strung out and when that money started coming in it made all our habits way worse. That led to selling a lot of drugs as well. A lot of drug dralers burned with fake money made a lot of enemies and lost friends, with access to that type of power, if you will. My buddies were taking taxis to get around out of paranoia, nd it turned out that some of the taxi drivers who drove them were actually undercover. They werent interested in weed or drugs they wanted the fake money. When i recall that time (10 years ago) its so wild to think that actually happened. Awesome video as usual Mark
This was a very good interview, so interesting. Love the happy ending ❤
Best interview yet!!
Thanks!
This man is going to print again as soon as he figures out another technique.
How comes almost every NA or AA meeting I’ve been and every jail I’ve been to there’s always one person that says “you know after most sentences 😆
the moment he starts explaining the process of making the notes 😳
I know! 😮 Bible paper!! Love that type of creativity that blends with business 😂
@An American Prayer - Where prophets meet profits.
@@De5O54 Homophones ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 5/5
I need to count how many times he says "you know". This guy is good with the counterfeit bills.
Saw him on Koncrete and Matt's show. Much longer interview and its badass 😂
Thanks! And shout out to Matt Cox!
Great interview! One of the better ones in my opinion.
Those opiate eyes are hard to shade without Sunny Southern Sunnies 😬 but you the man Jeff. Love this story when you told it on koncrete ! Stay well brother
Yeah … runny nose