What Is The Current State Of Card Grading? Where Do We Go From Here? With Adam From
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Whether we like it or not, sports card grading companies are here to stay. Regardless of whether you prefer @SGCGrading or @PSAcard_Official or Beckett, it's important for all of us to stay current with what is happening in the card grading space. Additionally, the hobby should be rooting for each of them to be successful, to continue putting pressure on each other to innovate and improve. In my conversation with Adam from @SplendidSports, we discuss the strengths and weaknesses or each of these companies and areas they could potentially improve for the future. Be sure to share your opinion on where things stand and the areas you want to see improvement in the market.
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Whenever the topic card values of PSA and SGC is discussed and why PSA is more, I have a one word answer. REGISTRY... That aspect was genius for PSA. High rollers want a way to say they have the best set. Until SGC makes inroads in some way in that area, they will stay in second. And yes, Beckett stills has a price guide.
Ultimately, I'm hoping a 3rd party does a combined registry that allows for SGC and PSA cards to be included.
@@MidLifeCards yesssssss 🙌🏻
Great video. I find it interesting that most of the discussion about the grading companies barely ever mention anything about the actual accuracy and consistancy of grading.Its always about resale value ,slabs,turnaround times etc. It seems like the thing that grading was originally intended for is the thing that most people care the least about.
I think that’s a great point. The problem is that it’s difficult to use finite data to articulate grades. Grades and grading accuracy is an opinion. Turnaround times and cost are factually based and can be proven. The “look” of the slab and the “consistency” of grading is hard to prove…so it’s hard to turn the screws to them too much on those issues.
@@MidLifeCards That's a fair point as well. Enjoy your weekend.
Example: Last year I had 2 1975 Topps Roger Staubach raw cards I decided to get graded. Card 1: off center (with sharp corners). Card 2: centered (front & back) with sharp corners. Sent Card 1 to SGC & came back 6. Card 2 (the better-or so I assumed) went off to PSA and came back a 4.😒 I honestly don't get what they're seeing at PSA?
Graig, I'd venture to guess that there is no way in hell that Mangini or BlueJacket, or ..... would crossover all of their cards to SGC for free. If you want consistency, go the Mangini and Double D route by designing your own custom slabs. Grade your own cards, create custom labels with subgrades, avoid sending your cards to a company which you complain about, save $15 per card and put that money back into the hobby and buy more cards. Good conversation, thanks for the video!
Well.... I don't want to speak for anyone, but I've actually brought this up to Mangini. I'll let him explain his thoughts, but it sounds like the response he gave me might surprise you.
@@MidLifeCards Of course, not speaking for anyone, just guessing. Will look forward to learning more about his thoughts!
So what I got out of this is that when I buy an SGC graded card I am paying what I consider fair market value because Im paying just for the card but if I purchase a PSA graded card I have to pay 40% more because PSA has a set registry that I care nothing about and don’t use but the card will still cost more because of a service the company offers that I don’t use that basically has nothing to do with the card I want. Seems like throwing money away to me
To some extent I agree. But, I think that it also has to do with the increased demand for PSA slabs because a lot of collectors want their slabs to match and at the moment, PSA slabs have a higher resale value....probably because of higher demand for the reasons you and I mention. But, in a way...yes, I think that's one way of looking at it.
Grading is a huge benefit to the market of cards over $100 and completely necessary to protect us as consumers buying those cards online.
I agree. Most of my bigger purchases are of graded cards.
All my money goes to add cards to my collection and I'm happy. Not even one penny to grading companies. Good informative video thanks for sharing!
I get that perspective. You're not alone in that feeling.
Hi Graig,
Thanks for the informative video today. I get any cards graded over $200.00 in cost. I can’t afford to buy raw cards if I ever want to resell them.
I personally like SGC for grading but I trust PSA as well.
We don’t really know enough about the process of grading. But I would never send my raw cards to PSA. I only buy previously graded cards now for the expensive ones in my budget.
Have a great weekend,
Peter
Thanks Peter. I think $200 is a good threshold, for sure.
Biggest weakness for SG is its resale value. PSA is the best especially now that their turn around times are getting faster. I appreciate the discussion you guys made some really valuable points 👌
The most expensive card ever sold if I'm not mistaken, the Mantle 1952 Topps, in a SGC slab. Honus Wagner, who I think, is also one of the top 5 most expensive cards. Sold for 6 to 7 million. I have no skin in the game or preference between the two companies, but I think the price difference/resale value is a bit overblown. Looking at some of the data. I do think SGC has and could potentially continue to close the gap. But we'll see .
@@ACD1994I agree SGC resale value affects modern cards a lot more than vintage. I use both for different situations. Both companies have their pros and cons. I’m glad we have two solid options 👌
Resale value is super important. And, you're right that PSA is higher. But, if SGC were to somehow catch up at some point down the road, this would mean there's a huge buying opportunities at a discount for SGC slabs.
@@MidLifeCardsI completely agree Graig. I really like some of the deals on SGC slabbed cards and with vintage cards the resale value is so close that a lot of the time I prefer a SGC slabbed card. SGC turnaround times are amazing I think PSA is starting to realize they need to speed up their process over there because SGC is on their heels. It’s great that we have 2 solid options in the hobby.
Your video with Adam on the pros and cons of the major grading companies was very informative. As a collector it helps me make better decisions with my collection. In your discussion you both did an excellent job in detailing the strengths and weaknesses of each company. I am grateful that you continue to put out interesting topics about the card hobby!!
Thanks Ken!! I really appreciate that. Adam is a great guy and I had a blast hanging out with him. I hope that we'll do more together in the future.
Thank you again Greg for your show and obvious rather fantastic knowledge of this market! You are truly a gem to us all! As a former teacher and corporate banker myself, you are to be commended! How you find the time and energy is simply amazing! Love your Dad too! What a fine gentleman!!!
Thanks so much. Those words mean a ton. And, I agree...my dad is great.
This was great. Soooo many good points I never even thought of. Loved it. Have a great weekend Graig.
Thanks Steve. Appreciate you watching/listening.
Nice video. I have never submitted a card for grading but I know that will change when I decide to sell. I like graded cards and buy graded cards. I do not care at all about the actual grade, just the fact that the card is not fake or altered so that gives me peace of mind.
Agree that selling is the most important time to have graded cards. Others care, which makes their value higher.
Whether we agree or not, card grading has become a hobby staple & will be mainstream going forward. The genie is forever out of the bottle!
Correct. Absolutely correct.
As always, thank you so much for a very interesting video. One thing that stuck out to me was the idea of someone like fanatics buying a grading company. I think that would be a disaster! Reason being is that I don’t think the objectivity would remain in place when you are grading your own products. I know that I would certainly be more skeptical about products produced by fanatics and then graded by the very same company. I would love to hear a comment about that.
Great post! I have a different opinion on some expressed but this is great information! I love the big numbers on SGC and I love their slab’s.
Thanks for watching and sharing your comments. We'll never agree on everything!! :-)
Great conversation guys! I agree with a lot of the points that you made! I wish SGC would grade autographs and have slightly smaller slabs (they don't fit well in my display cases). I totally agree that subgrades are super helpful and all the graders should include them. That's one of the reasons I like HGA graded cards.
Agreed, Darren. My BIGGEST issue with SGC is the size of their slabs.
Great discussion! One thing not mentioned that I love is PSAs card guarantee. If a card is discovered to be not authentic and in a PSA slab, you can get reimbursed at FMV - quite an assurance!
More so than who will compete vs PSA, I m more curious who will make the most impactful technology or AI value proposition. I feel that this would naturally disrupt the grading market.
The only issue about the PSA guarantee is that is can't be the original submitter of the card. It has to be someone besides the person that originally submitted it for grading.
Hmm. Now that collectors universe purchased SGC… will my SGC slabs come with a guarantee? Most my sgc slabs were submitted by me. I feel compelled to sell my sgc slabs now if start to guarantee them
Really enjoyed this discussion! Probably someone else mentioned this in the comments, but I would love to hear each one of your takes on TAG grading. I know that TAG is not yet grading vintage cards, but TAG takes a much different approach to grading that would make for an interesting discussion.
I think AI and TAG have a strong future in card grading. At the moment, TAG doesn't grade vintage cards, so it limits the discussion a fair amount.
Thanks again Graig for having me on and look forward to the next one 👊
I had a blast, my friend!! The best part was getting to hang out with you and get to know you better. Looking forward to more in the future!!
SGC for vintage, PSA for modern, CSG for comics or video games, and Beckett only if its gonna grade a 10 or better. In my humble opinion! Great discussion guys!
I think you summed it up pretty well.
Great conversation, gentlemen. I agree with you both wholeheartedly. Great analysis.
Thanks, my friend. I know you did a conversation on this topic recently too. I listened to it yesterday!!
Oh, and Graig I believe either of these three grading companies would benefit in hiring you. I can see that possibly happening in time. Thanks again!
Thanks!! I'd be open to it if they were truly interested.
I think the only company evoking and iterating their product is PSA, and they should be applauded for it. Flip updates, security measure, plastic upgrades - they are behaving like a leader that’s fine tuning the machine. I think SGC just doesn’t have the capitol or the bandwidth to iterate and evolve like them, although I wish they did!
Good point, Mookie. If some deep pockets like Fanatics came in, it could be a game changer.
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Great show as always! For me the label of a graded card is the least of my concerns, big numbers, small numbers, red, black, pink(?). If I was into labels I would go with HGA, they make some great color matching labels that accentuate the card. I too like the black boarder of SGC, to me it accentuates the cards and makes them really stand out. Except for cards with black or really dark boarders, then I would prefer them in a clear holder. So to me it's all about the presentation and protection of the card itself, and isn't that what's important? Well that's just me, with my so called "Frankenstein Collection" as some like to refer that too (which does not bother me one bit). Keep up the great content! Ross from Hawaii. 🤙
How is the recent news going to affect all of this?
@50:50 I find this to be a common theme from some vintage dealers too, including Chris Sewall (Baseball card Collector Investor Dealer) who, I talked to about this same topic in person, yet some of the most expensive cards ever sold were, in SGC slabs. A 1952 Mantle and also, Honus Wagner, which I think sold for over 6, or 7 million dollars. So I guess not all the investors with deep pockets care about the slab, but card too. Which is what it really should, be about. PSA or SGC ''loyalty'', is whatever to me. I'll take the Clemente rookie in any holder, any day, any time.
I wish “the hobby” would collect cards. A card is the point not the plastic the label & the opinion of a self proclaimed 3rd party who wants to steal from your funds to buy more Clementes.
Cards should be called cards not graded, raw etc. they are the hobby.
I love the small works of art, I love that they take me back to the days when I pulled several 1984 D Strawberry’s one summer & read the backs changed the order I was keeping the stars in my binders and the days I’d go to the local flea markets & search for star RCs …. Like all collectors I want to be confident my cards are authentic. I believe the best way to do that is to spend time with them. I want a “real” 1954 Ernie Banks in any condition
I have Clemente, Aaron Mays Mantle cards w pinholes, writing from some kid. That shows the love those true collectors had for the game, the players & for cards!!!!
Keep loving the true hobby dude 🤙🏽. ⚾️⚾️🦏🦏🦏
Fair point about some massive cards being in SGC holders.
Great presentation. I enjoy and collect PSA and SGC but I do enjoy Beckett’s vintage magazine. It has a number of interesting articles and recent sales of rare sports collectibles.
Thanks so much. Means a lot.
PSA won’t change and improve as long as collectors continue to do business through them. Thats why as you explained, we should all be rooting for SGC and BGS to improve
I agree. If people give them business, they won't need to do anything differently.
Thanks for the video!!! I think that you covered a lot of the issues in this video. However, I think you missed two very important ones.
CGC has the best slabs if you just want to display the card well. Their black label is very neutral and their plastic is better than every other company. About a year ago I made the decision that I would only put PC Cards in CGC holders.
TAG a disruptor in this industry. And for those that are curious, I’m not a TAG bot. For a long time I was curious about TAG. So a few months ago, I sent some cards to them just to see what it was like to have TAG grade them. I have gotten cards graded with six different companies. The TAG experience is by far the best. The key question is always why did my card get the grade it received? TAG includes an online report which shows you a detailed analysis of the card and where any flaw exist. This is a game changer. TAG’s volumes are growing rapidly. For those of us that don’t care about a registry or slab consistency, TAG will soon be the industry standard. Why? PSA and SGC can’t duplicate what they are doing quickly and efficiently. If you want to see what I am talking about, I can make a short video and email it to you. Also, TAG slabs rival CGC slabs. This surprised me.
Thanks again for all of your content!!!!
TAG doesn't grade vintage cards, which is the reason we didn't talk much about them.
CGC definitely has a growing interest from some collectors. I do like the looks of their slabs, but a huge percentage of their grading is of TCG.
@@MidLifeCards I agree with your comments and it makes sense why you only focused on PSA, SGC and Becket.
I think TAG will eventually get to vintage. In the mean time, they will push the others to be more transparent which can only be good for collectors.
Thanks for your content and your engagement!!!! I really appreciate what you do for the community.
I think a segment on A.I. graded cards is needed. If a grading company shows subgrades with a nice looking slab and accurately graded ,isn't that what a collector/investor wants?
No doubt that AI is coming in more and more ways. TAG isn't currently grading vintage cards, so for vintage collectors, it's still down to the same old companies.
Thanks Greg! I prefer CGC in terms of the subject company’s name…so Thank You!!! I get loss on all of these acronyms instead of spelling out the proper names…
I mean lost! Typo from my phone!
CGC has definitely been gaining in popularity, but I know a ton of their slabs are for TCG cards.
Awesome episode guys 🤙🤙
Thanks D.
You guys hit the nail on the head! Great seeing you two together in a collaboration! Well done!
Thanks Theo. I knew I liked you!! :-)
Grading simply monetizes the vintage card industry. We can only grow with this concept which will survive and surely thrive as the grading companies improve their game…
Definitely a lot of truth in those words. The tug of war between collecting and investing will continue.
Great video by you both and thanks so much for taking the time to put together this great video together. Lots of good things brought up by you both for pros and cons of each company. I am sure we all have lots to say about this topic.....but I will just summarize mine as a long time collector and grader. BGS has been losing market share for 15 years and is in trouble to survive or be relevant. SGC is making a little ground up on PSA but hardly any. Lets not forget SGC has been around a lot longer than people realize and they are still in the large shadow of PSA. PSA will remain king unless something catastrophic happens. Their back log mess got SGC some extra business but not enough. PSA has really worked on their turnaround times in the last 6 months for sure. If they get their turn around times close to 2 months or less (which they have been getting a ton done in about a month lately) this will make the gap even bigger between PSA and SGC. I hope SGC can do some more business because it will make PSA have to change a little. I could be off my rocker too!! Ha Ha Thanks again for all that you guys do. Its greatly appreciated!
Thanks so much and totally agree about hoping SGC can keep pushing PSA.
Graig, I think your topic of quality vs quantity should be more explored because it’s really the heart of any collection. I went through my collection and classified my cards in 3 types: High End, Mid End and Low end in terms of expense. I was actually surprised my collection is pretty diverse:
High end cards: 29%
Mid End Cards: 44%
Low End Cards: 27%
I’d be interested in the breakdown from your collection and other UA-camrs?
That's a really interesting idea/thought. I think the other thing to consider is what may be "high end" for me, may be "low end" for someone with more money. So, it's all relative.
I have sooooo many thoughts! I think the vintage market share SGC has grabbed over the past several years has exploded because of their fair grading and fast turnaround time. I think they are happy with the trajectory of that vintage market share they keep buying into - but the real growth is modern and TCG. That’s the money booth with the most dollars flying around in it - and I think they get more ROI from every dollar they spend trying to capture those revenue streams than anywhere else. It’s why you see them advertising modern and TCG discounts regularly… that’s the growth area for them. To the extent a label/slab change/evolution helps them capture more of that market - they should absolutely do it.
Well said. Plus, there's always the "concern" of.... "what happens when all the vintage cards are graded."
SGC should slim down that case and drop the black jagged insert, but keep the black background in the slab without an insert. The thick cases they have do it well and are far better.
I think slimming down the case would help A LOT!!
Outstanding video!
for me, I can care less about the registry. I’ve been collecting Sports Card since 1975 still have many of them to this day been getting them graded since The late 90s, I remember when PSA used to have a table at “Frank and son’s “‘s in Walnut California.
I very rarely sell any of my cards, but someday is coming I’m sure.
I think the SGC slab is great looking. I’ve been submitting many cards very happy with the grades I’ve been getting and the turnaround time.. I am in my late 50s maybe that’s why I like the SGC slabs better… lol
I use SGC more than PSA nowadays as well.
Valid points from both of you guys. As far as customer service goes I'd have to give it to SGC, PSA has been so big for so long they have gotten full of themselves, Beckett has just plain and simply lost touch with the modern hobby. Beckett has somehow gone from the biggest name in the hobby to an also ran. Once Dr Beckett left the company really went down hill. They had the brand recognition to take PSA behind the woodshed if they had wanted to in the beginning rather than focusing on fleecing collectors and holding their databases ransom as they came into the internet age of the hobby. When it comes to fanatics taking on of the grading companies, I hope that they are not allowed to monopolize another part of our beloved hobby.
I think you make a good point about Fanatics starting to flirt with monopoly status with all of the "factors of production" that they're currently involved in.
One strange thing I am starting to see is that yes PSA graded cards outsell BGS graded cards but not so much at 10s vs 10s. It seems to me that BGS 10 graded cards are selling for more now then PSA 10 graded cards 80% of the time. But then comes along something like Jeters RC and the PSA sells for 10X the BGS card, its strange.
It is really interesting what slabs different people prefer.
Great conversation, thanks for sharing
Thanks Orlando. I appreciate you listening!!
I have a lot of PSA slabs that have cards moving around inside of them which can easily cause damage to the edges and surface. A lot of those slabs are even from 2023. So the plastic sleeve that Beckett uses is actually good because it protects the card from moving. I understand BGS slabs are not as clear, but any big cards that I buy I prefer to be in Beckett slabs just because of the protection. 90% of my cards are PSA but if I’m buying a really expensive card, and I have the choice, I prefer it in BGS. I have a few SGC, but their slabs look and feel cheap to me. They feel and look like a homemade project. So I only buy SGC if they’re super super cheap and even then they’re not cards I’m really targeting. I prefer to pay more for cards I’m targeting in PSA & BGS slabs. It’s good to have multiple grading companies because they honestly all have issues and the competition can help us all. Hopefully BGS cleans up their act and becomes relevant again, but the PSA services/pop reports are streamlined the best. The others are way behind.
I definitely think it's going to be interesting to see how things progress, and it's something we should keep track of.
I love how SGC fits the black "tuxedo" to the size of the card being encapsulated. I can't stand PSA putting an odd size card into a standard holder. So often the card moves and doesn't look right.
I agree. SGC is better about making sure cards fit and they sure look good in their slabs.
eBay uses CSG to authenticate all of their raw cards. It seems to be working! Shouldn’t CSG be considered as a major player due to same?
They are a major player, but they were starting from zero in terms if sports cards not very long ago. IMO, they have come a long way in a short time. Note, they are now CGC across the board (CSG is no longer in use).
Authenticating and grading do have overlap, but who people want their cards encapsulated by, is the main focus of this particular discussion. I think CGC is more of a comic and TCG grader at this point.
I watched this despite the topic because you’re my friends 😂
LOL. Thanks John!!
I agree that holding cards for 4 months is obscene, but remember there was a time when PSA held cards for 16 months plus.
Yeah...crazy times!!
I’m not attached to a specific grading company. I like SGC’s service and I like vintage and some modern cards in their slabs. I grade with PSA for aftermarket autographed cards that SGC doesn’t do, and I have a few PSA registries. I haven’t graded with Beckett but I have a few non-card autographs I plan to send them. But my overall opinion on grading is that competition is good. It helps keep pricing in check and keeps these companies from getting complacent with their innovations.
Agree about competition being important.
Graig, I am happy having my cards in different slabs does not bother me. I have PSA, SGC, Becket in old and new slabs and even GAI as most of my unopened collection was graded before PSA graded unopened. It would cost me a fortune to get them all looking the same. At this moment I send to SGC, like their consistency but do realize their holder is bulkier. I used to belong to PSA club when they gave you a coupon for 6 or 15 graded cards but do not want to pay one hundred dollars just so I can use their service plus I do not like their new magazine. The turnover and service at SGC is more customer friendly. I also take advantage of buying SGC graded card for a lesser price for the same grades as PSA.
I wish the mixmatched slabs didn't both me, but it does. But, I still buy the cards I like, regardless of the holder.
Great vid guys. With Beckett, also they have the allure of the pristine grade possibility and even black label 10, which PSA does not.
Good point. I know that is a thing that a lot of collectors like to chase.
Greg tell us how to have PSA reevaluate the grade given on a particular card. Their President indicated there was an internal review methodology instead of the old unsure method of cracking and resubmitting. Thank you!
You can submit a card for review. It's one of the options on their grading website. So, you can send in a card in a PSA holder, without needing to crack it, and they will give it another look. They won't drop the grade, but the MIGHT up the grade. My Dad once had a PSA 9 Montana RC that was perfect. He resubmitted it, and they gave it a 10.
I simply wish the grading companies watch this video!!!
And who knew that PSA and SGC were about to join forces.
Not sure if any company with its protocols & standards feels comfortable about slapping their name on another product even a previously graded card? I’m sure there’d be plenty of disclosures- “item was previously graded by others” or “previous PSA grade card in no way confirms to SGC standards”. Oh, I’m NOT a lawyer- just thinking like one☝️.
Good points. And, ....I'm not a lawyer either. I make way less money than lawyers. :-)
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Negatives... BVG as opposed to BGS- not needed, each vintage card is automatically graded as others from the same vintage period anyway...BVG dropped subgrades- why?- they were ahead of there time and now the other grading companies are starting to acknowledge the importance of this in todays grading environment...BGS does not guarantee older BVG/BGS grades 2012 and back?- makes little sense, they were so much tougher graders early on anyway.... BVG had a run of grading obviously trimmed cards (usually one edge) in many (2005 -2012?) vintage grading- never addressed or fixed.
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That's the thing...a series of mistakes from a company like BVG had can really destroy a companies reputation.
Fanatics has the market capitalization to truly challenge PSA…should be interesting!
Agree. I'll be curious to see if they get involved, and if so....with whom.
I don’t think “grading” is a thing that improves the hobby as much as it has detracted from the hobby. To me the hobby is a collecting hobby If the card is nicer looking and happens to be more valuable because of its centering & condition then great. The detractor is that “collectors” don’t collect cards they collect grades, price tags, a registry, a population and investments. They probably don’t even read the back, learn about the player/game/set or watch the sport the player plays(ed).
If a buyer is concerned buying off the internet they may need more pictures or maybe 3rd party authentication not necessarily a grade. Not to mention it is an opinion of that grader at the time. They want to say they are professional graders yet there is no qualification or consistent training required. Many companies give the same card a different grade if u send it back to you & there are also many mistakes made
I know my opinion and comments are not the majority or popular. But I think grading is only as you said “here to stay” only because people have “bought” into it. I have some graded cards that I bought graded because the deal I got on a nice looking card that happens to be in a holder but I want to feel touch and experience collecting cards. Authentication is helpful as well when selling but the value is in the eye of the seller and the buyer otherwise. If collectors want thier cards to match maybe they can break them out of those slabs and slide them in a toploader or mag. I think collectors would rather add another $20 card over lining PSAs pockets further w $$$$. I know I feel that way. I apologize for the rant. Take care ⚾️⚾️🦏🦏🦏
No need to apologize for sharing your opinions. That's the whole point of comments. I love hearing a variety of opinions, whether they align with mine or not!! Thanks for sharing.
Adam,I don't understand how its ok to wait that long for your cards to come back
People bitch about it but still give them money and say its ok because its PSA
A friend just got his cards back after 18 months,how is that okay
I'll let Adam respond to this one.
I do want to point out, in Magic the Gathering, BGS is still king. It’s all about the subgrades.
I'll have to take your word for it. I know NOTHING about Magic the Gathering.
IMO, SGC seems to cater to scammers by assigning random cert #, having small cert # on front and no cert on the back.
I agree that SGC should probably start trying to do more with their counterfeit technology.
The hardcore anti-grading people are the vegans of the hobby. No one is trying to stop you from living how you want, but shut up about it. You're not going to change everyone else's mind.
LOL. That's hilarious....
I’m not anti grading but I am pro collecting cards. I am a carnivore I eat them up. I get more cardboard & less plastic for my dollar 🥩 I love the hobby. ⚾️⚾️🦏🦏🦏
@bretstone6985 I want everyone to collect how they want and enjoy it. What gets me is how preachy some anti-grading people get. It never goes the other way. People that are into grading never shout that raw cards are stupid.
It sucks. Its been 25 years and PSA still can't get their act togeter--five month wait times and grading for vintage is now 1-7 not 1-10. 1-5 on pre-War. SGC too bulky and crap looking labels. I love that Double D is coming up with his own slabs, with real world grading. I think registry power is overrated. I think its that PSA was first and their slabs are so much better looking.
There are definitely some issues that some of the grading companies continue to need to improve. But, for the most part, I think several of them do a pretty decent job.
Sgc needs a slab between postcard size, and 8x10.
It would be nice for cards like Red Man tobacco cards.
@@MidLifeCards yeah, some great looking cards look... Not right in those huge holders.
If you have to join a club to grade your cards before you even send them a card and pay for it is scam
Plus the up charge,who desides that a card needs more money to grade,scam
When it takes a year to get your cards back is a scam, I could be dead by then
My opinion is SGC every day all day
Are you guys buying the slab or card
Love the SGC slab
PSA feels cheap and the label looks like a pill bottle label
PSA has brained washed people
Thank you for thinking for the hobby & not just following the heard ⚾️⚾️🦏🦏🦏
You're not along in this opinion....and in many cases...for many of the reasons that you mention.