Reminder that if we are not happy with the moji rework, its not set in stone yet. Its gonna get to the PTS first, so if we happen to hate it, we can submit our feedback and make them go back, like we did many times in the past. Remember that shitty item store rework? we stopped it from happening even though it was pretty advanced. This is no difference.
I mean, moji already "failed" on flank role I think we are gaining more than losing on this rework But i agree on having a dmg only talent, like grohk or pip, so old players can still play the "flank moji"
@@timolechicguy buck has a huge hotbox and is close range as well just like moji. Difference is he has sustain, dmg reduction and a better mobility. Not to mention DPS like drogoz, willo and bomb king that also has huge hotboxes for being dps. Also we haven't tried the reworked Moji yet to know if she is better as a support.
i've been playing this game for like 7 years and i have yet to really encounter a hacker, or at least not in a LONG time. Is it the server ur own perhaps?
@@bestteapartyever2877 I mean I usually play casual but I've reached diamond before and hadn't run into any hackers (at least from what I can recall). Console doesn't really suffer from that issue all that much.
@@bigcsbigbrother3685 i think its a good change. moji's model and kit in general is kind of illsuited to being a flank. i wouldnt have minded converting moji to a tank either.
Loool I remember years ago when Moji was considered the worst champion (like bottom tier) - everyone was somewhat onboard with the Healer Moji. But now she's not as unplayable so people aren't as happy. I did hear she might be getting a talent that keeps the flank playstyle so fingers crossed.
They never gave her any sort of vertical mobility while keeping 2 healing talents. She just needed proper attention to make her effective as a flank imo, I don't think making her a support is necessary in any way tbh.
it looks like she would still be played as a flank kind like furia is played as a damage sup... in fact im worried that she can be even stronger now in some comps...
Lets be real here Moji was suited better at being a Damage or Frontline more than a flanks so seeing this change will be intresting. Although A support who gas a even bigger hit box that Pip will be intresting
I was on board with Moji becoming a support but not like this. I though they were going to make Magic Barrier have a healing aura similar to Skye smoke Screen or how you can detonate magic marks to heal all allies similar to Raums Subservience Talent. But not like this.
the whole idea of adding healing onto her attack is a failure of epic proportions... it basically makes her heal able to be blocked by a shield.... and there's no easy remedy to that.... like you cant just make her healing pass through shields like other healers because that also means her damage will be phasing through shields...
I dont know about the mark now healing. If people didnt enjoy playing dmg moji applying a burst dmg mark, I dont know is applying a burst dmg healing will be more fun
the funny thing is that they MADE her better at flanking with the new infinite mobility, but at no point they thought "wait hold on let's try this change alone first"
@IckyStickyRicky123 we're not talking about that, we're talking about a skin. A skin for your Asian Robin Hood in an East meets west pass just seems like an easy thing to do. But nah, another skin for Thot Angel
Lets make everyone a support character now, Andro can simply heal everyone by fisting them, and Viktor has a friendlier version of Napalm, I'm sure of it
Moji being changed into a damage wouldnt even require any changes. Moji becoming a better flank would just require a mobility buff. But completely snubbing her unique mechanics and making her a healer?
we still need to see how the mark works for enemies, but if the magic barrier no longer grants inmunity, then moji dps/flanker is dead. She need that inmunity for her huge hitbox. i also agree that minor changes could make her fit better as a flank, rather than this rework. Also applying a mark for burst healing doesnt feels more fun that applying a mark for burst dmg
Could this better be a new champion like Omen? A character that resembles Moji but in a support role. I like Moji being a flank, she just need work, i really dont think changing her class is the move here tbh :/
@@moskiller6713 I think she's still bad from a character design standpoint. They can play with the numbers all they want, it won't change the fact that you HAVE to play Life Exchange for her to heal any significant amount. For instance, I can go "stun" Corvus, and still walk away with 120k healing easily and he doesn't even have any cards that reduce the cooldown of the heal. I think EM needs to take a step back and assess all the supports with fundamentally flawed healing in their kits like Jenos, Grohk, and Ying who rely on broken cards, talents, or numbers to be effective at healing.
@@Randomness662 Agreed with everything. EM needs to fix a lot of characters as everyone needs higher numbers in order to be playable because of the Item store. Or they need to play a specific talent/card. What's the point of having talents and cards if your just going to play the same broken stuff all game? I doubt they will ever fix Paladin as it would take a lot of time, money, and people to fix every character. Hopefully they will make Paladins 2 and fix the problems that the original Paladins had.
@@Randomness662 Moji has been a flank for a long time now, and she has a fair amount of players that like her. She definitely needed some work, but completely changing her class is not the move. She never got verticality, interesting flank talents, or improvement on her mobility.
I love that they actually started to solve bugs and revork unhealthy things for the game. But the devs have to balance revorks and changes with new content. Also maybe they should star to put some money into marketing the game to actually attract new players. Other than that, I am excited for this update.
@@Luxgen-mp5bb haha yes lol Don't tell me that you're actually braindead enough to think that permanent cauterize was a good decision. If you are, then you're just bad at the game and need to learn how to play properly.
@@TheButterSurge because she sacrifices her own health to heal others, now she can't even put a fully charged swarm down without being at risk of getting one-shot by a sniper.
@@maldambao6126 not to mention I was killed many times in ult before these changes, they're gonna instantly slap me now when I ult xD it's sad since she was nerfed already and didn't have nearly as much blood gain like when on release when she was a tank. She's not even picked in ranked nor is she banned... she is perfectly balanced so I don't know why the huge nerf now is needed... Oh well... First Skye now Lilith. I wonder who's next on the list to make it feel like hell for me to play @_@
not gonan lie, the moji skins looks really bad, like it looks like a cursed doll or something. not ugly funny, just ugly ugly, mainly the colors and those eyes. Some day we moji players will get a good skin, this one and the previous one were dissapointing
Wait a minute, Spit Shine and Jubilation augment either Po or Li for healing or damage... respectively. Do we finally know which is Po and which is Li?
Just checked patch notes. You didn't "increase Lillith's versatility" at all lmao. You guys just straight up murdered her. Massive reduction to health, but swarm at lv 3 still consumes 800 blood. And now you're also taking her mobility away by reworking Wings of Terror into a useless card? Amazing work, guys.
You can't play a single game without 100 infuriating problems. Most aggressive 1 you will never complete a match because it's crashes for 0 reasons guarantee every game. And it's everyone being kicked. Only so many times you can put up with looking at the loading screen more than playing.
furia is still a damager... she also use to be a really powerful healer... until they changed the way her healing beams worked.... now i cant stand her cause using the beams is just a friggen task and everyone's just horrible at placement with em... they worked so much better when they just automatically stopped on allies....
Nah just give us back Flank Moji completely, put Toot in her base kit so that you can replace Toot with the simili rework (her weapon can heal allies just like Grohk can). This is the easiest most simplest way to implement a "Support Moji". This rework is just plain garbage
The only change I wanted for Moji is for her to blink in her skins... Also as soon as I opened the game the Bomb King skin was T-posing in the menu... With the screen overlay misplaced on the left and sometimes the login resets even if I logged in before the reset. Do you need help Evil Mojo?
No thanks. In the past I would've agreed with you. I used to enjoy the livestreams as well. But ever since this cringe weirdo took over the hosting, the less I have to sit through his yapping the better. This quick fire method is much preferred.
@@zhin8294 Yeah, back then all patch note streams were fun, best part of Paladins tbh. The devs were all fun and full of characters, even the cringy stuffs were fun too. But now the new devs just be yapping with monotone voice and bad mics the whole streams
I remember when Io was added with Bazaar and the beach skins. That was a good update stream, lovely new champion, great skins and a new map. @@itikuekuek
we STILL have MASSIVE problems on european servers. it just sends you back to the main menu every now and then NO MATTER WHEN! in game, in champion selection etc. FIX THAT before revealing a dumb skin for moji.
Is this update gunna fix the literal disconnect every game. My Internet is banging it's not me it's you. How can I enjoy your game if I'm in constant fear of not finishing a match.
Honestly you should consider bringing back paladin's strike. The game was before its time and now every game company is trying to figure out a similar formula. Even the earned media of "dead game" turning on a server or two for a limited time like a Phoenix rising from its ashes would get so many people talking.
@@kiyuthakat4934 i dont care about the healing she does , i want them to nerf her dmg and the spirit link , its so annoying to play against esp if ur a flanker the spirit link ruins the game and does too much dmg when she plays focus talent , also the should nerf the DR its too much TOO much shes immortal
@@kiyuthakat4934 its a buff. U will now run max DR and max ult gen and just be an ult charger all game. its even more obnoxious than it was before. You never picked rei for healing output before
Yeah, they are so hard up for money and developer time that they're literally deleting old characters and reusing their skins for "new characters". It's super insulting to the community, not to mention just straight up lazy.
You killed Moji for the most uninspired redesign of all time. Wow, you took all her current abilities and made them worse -- cool. Also, the community manager Kryptek promised a viable flank version of Moji would still be available. What the hell happened there? You took away her AOE, you cut her damage in half, you broke her Magic Shield, and your DPS talent is a BUFF TO HER SPRAY THAT DOES NO DAMAGE. And this is the kicker -- the buff is FIVE DAMAGE HIGHER THAN CURRENT MOJI. So she lost everything about her that's cool, became a boring support that sits behind the team and sprays mindlessly all game, and the flex-to-flank feature you promised is a five damage buff alongside nerfs to literally every other part of her kit. Cool. But hey, at least you made Scamper infinite -- you know, that ability everyone cuts off early because bunny hopping is more fun anyways? You guys killed Moji to reuse her skins and art for this dumb support version no one wanted, and the only people that are going to enjoy playing it are people that never liked Moji to begin with. Hope that was worth killing off a whole section of Moji mains that have nothing to get excited for in your game now. Classic Evil Mojo anti-community move, what an insult.
@@Melovelot I agree with you. Better yet Imma stop whinning for a bit and not only ask to revert Moji back to what she was before the class change but ask for buffs (Toot in base kit, second dash...) and the Support version being changed into a new Echo Champion a la Omen. We don't accept Support Moji but we're willing instead to give level-headed feedbacks and to even resurrect the Echo idea so that any changes they want for the old champions be repurposed into Echo champions instead (like the Torvald reworks some people want).
they didng gave upo with kasumi after implementing like 3 reworks but they refue to do minor changes to make moji a more suitable flank. Literally just give her more dmg reduction and a double dash and its done.
I play 4 supports, 3 tanks, 1 DPS. please don't ruin the one DPS I actually like and feels different, I really don't want to play another support. if this goes through as the braindead overwatch-clone character that it's being turned into, i'm just gonna uninstall the game because honestly what a slap in the face from the dev's to anyone who plays this character; "Stop having fun as a DPS, here's your dunce cap, heal your team and sit back and shut up" because that's really fun...
This is honestly the best chance you had at making an echo champion. Only reason it didnt work on omen was because jenos is rather obscure already. Your taking a flank with a hyper niche cult of people who have worked their ass off honing their skills and trying to get better at a character who has always struggled into the meta and throwing away their efforts. I havent seen the rework yet so i cant confirm this but as it stands right now, moji losing her identity isnt the play. An echo champion here would have been peak.
@@jermx487 Nobody wants Moji as a support unless they don't play her now. When your update pisses off everyone that currently plays the champion and is only exciting to people that don't care abot her, then that's a perfect candidate for a new champion rather than trashing an old one for a rework.
Can't believe you actually went through with the Moji murder. What a tone-deaf team. You had people yelling at you not to do this on all your socials, and you know what Kryptek the community manager said? No one is upset by this rework. What an insult. They don't even care enough to look into their community to see how their update is being received, they just do the most surface-level bullshit PR for it and call it a "community leader job well done". This game has a history of pushing unpopular updates that kill off pieces of the community, and this is just another brick in the fucking wall from a development team that couldn't push a popular update if their life depended on it. The fact the community manager Kryptek confirmed the dev team knew that this update wouldn't be received well and they went through with it anyways is a complete insult. The people that run this game put minimal effort into their job to skate by and get a paycheck.
Oh my god what have they done to Lillith? She had so much blood health because she has to constantly use it for her abilities. How could they rework certain abilities or cards to make this change good? And supports will heal less and deal more damage? This entire update looks like a mess already 😤
So healers no longer 'heal'? I know very few that would welcome more damage over staying the same (no patch) or better healing. Just run all DPS / Flank with a DPS Tank thrown in (Raum for healing and a 10k health card build). Maybe play a support for "old time's sake" but stop playing Support for faster 'twitch' matches. Overwatch went this route. Why I stopped playing it altogether since it went to OW 2.0 ...errr, OW 2. 🙄
@Zarrick I think some supports didn't get healing nerfs but others like Grover, Lillith, Ying, Grohk and Rei did, probs a bit more but not everyone. And a lot got a few minor damage buffs too. Imo it was a silly change, there's nothing wrong with healing and it's the primary function of a support. Why encourage people to do that less? But Lillith got hit hard, healing nerfs everywhere they could've given her. She was strong, I'll give them that but still felt unnecessary. I also saw on the bp timer that it's going to be 155 days until the next update. So if that's not a bug and it's true, we're stuck with people wanting to do more damage than healing for 5 months 😂 It's not the worst update but I feel like a lot of these changes were so unnecessary and they just ran out of things to do
@@AndrewC79 Instead of patching apparent bugs and glitches affect gameplay, many of these companies listen to the thumb-sucking whales that fill their stockholders bank accounts. A shame about Lilith. I got used to manually dropping her AOE instead of the cop-out "follow me" version. Got alot of kills / heals that way. Still have to play her to 50 so I can get the gold-skin (which looks awesome at least). Grinding from 43 will be hell now. 😑 I really hope I don't have to erase this game from my HD because game developers feel they are helping the fanbase by breaking an already bug-infested mess. Thanks for the reply. Just have to suffer through. Hopefully the skins are nice. The game mechanics are broken beyond repair but those characters are hot! 🙄
@Zarrick This game really is a joke but we're all still holding on, the characters are the only thing keeping us going. I cannot believe how bad the bugs are and how they just do not fix them. Perfect example, if you didn't know, Rei's healing has been bugged for over 2 years now. Her heal orb spins around in a little circle sometimes and doesn't heal. They gave her a talent that really helps with it at least but 2 years is ridiculous and it's still going, like it can really affect her healing. And Lillith is def worth playing to 50, her golden skin is awesome and she's still a wicked character. It's fair they nerfed her but imo they nerfed her too much, she definitely feels worse and different with those additional cooldowns for her first talent but we'll manage. And the skins are not bad, this game is still 10x better than OW. At least I don't have to spend $30 on a skin that does nothing and die in 0.5 seconds everytime or listen to more of Blizzard's bs
How do you expect to gain players over overwatch when you refuse to deal with afk, trolls and throwers. It's every 8 out of 10 games and so painful to play.
Evil Mojo is deleting current Moji to re-use her skins for this dumb Support version. And yeah, everyone that plays her is equally as mad as you are right now -- it's a complete slap in the face from a development team that doesn't really care about their community.
I can't finish the trials. Everything resets back to 0%. Expend 500,000 Ammo, Expend 150,000 Ammo, Play 20 Onslaught, and the 200 Eliminations all rested back to 0 some several times already.
All the Moji mains wanted a buff for her for six years in a row. Instead they ignore her until they delete her to reuse her skins for this dumb support version.
Hey, how about you guys revert the permanent cauterize for a change? It's not healthy for the game and should be brought back as an item. Or at the very least even give more characters access to anti-heal in their base kits instead of it mainly being Willow with the anti-heal circle.
Ran here hoping a dev will see this comment PLEASE ADD MULTIPLAYER PRACTISE LOBBY SUPPORT. I'm glad you guys are considering newer players but honestly most new players get drawn in by friends and it sucks that the only way you can show them the ropes is via a bot lobby instead of a multiplayer enabled training room. Please clear this up as I've tried to introduce 5 of my friends to the game but they get overwhelmed with the sheer amount of mechanics and each just quits playing.
"oh my god I cant believe IT, a new moji skin, finally after the slop of the previous one we moji mains can finally... OH MY GOODNESS !!!" washed out colors aside, those eyes give me nightmares ,also whats up with her hair? it looks like an old broom.
when you read comments and realize how many people dont know how to abuse moji. sad. but if they do a rework, having a different talent like pip where it can be used as a heal or a dmg/ flank would be better for more average players that dont want to sink hundreds of hours into being crazy at a champion..
it's so funny seeing the NA playerbase dislike that Moji rework lol when the subreddit folks that have consistently given terrible feedback after terrible feedback agree that something is poorly thought out, that should tell you you've messed up big time
Reminder that if we are not happy with the moji rework, its not set in stone yet. Its gonna get to the PTS first, so if we happen to hate it, we can submit our feedback and make them go back, like we did many times in the past. Remember that shitty item store rework? we stopped it from happening even though it was pretty advanced. This is no difference.
I mean, moji already "failed" on flank role
I think we are gaining more than losing on this rework
But i agree on having a dmg only talent, like grohk or pip, so old players can still play the "flank moji"
@@gustavovargas8716 all that moji needed to be a better flank was dmg reduction and 2 dashes.
@@Luxgen-mp5bb yeah
Since shes big, i think 3k - 3.5k health
A tank flank that does ok dmg, but is very resilience
Its not a bad idea
Moji is better as a support, just accept it and move on. That thing is as big as a tank how can she be a flanker.
@@timolechicguy buck has a huge hotbox and is close range as well just like moji. Difference is he has sustain, dmg reduction and a better mobility. Not to mention DPS like drogoz, willo and bomb king that also has huge hotboxes for being dps. Also we haven't tried the reworked Moji yet to know if she is better as a support.
A support that was actually a flanker... now a flanker that became a support...
HORSE WAS ACTUALLY A MOJI REWORK TEASER THIS WHOLE TIME?!?!?!!!
Horse moment 🐴
Cool skins. But do you know what is even better than cool skins? A match without a hacker.
Preach
In 1200 Hours i met 2 hackers on High diamond elo
i've been playing this game for like 7 years and i have yet to really encounter a hacker, or at least not in a LONG time. Is it the server ur own perhaps?
@@thefordlord9893 Maybe you’re bronze perhaps?
@@bestteapartyever2877 I mean I usually play casual but I've reached diamond before and hadn't run into any hackers (at least from what I can recall). Console doesn't really suffer from that issue all that much.
All the gold moji mains are on high alert
Bro in goin insane not sure what to think😂
Level 633.. I don't really know what to say..🤷🏻♂️
@@bigcsbigbrother3685 i think its a good change. moji's model and kit in general is kind of illsuited to being a flank. i wouldnt have minded converting moji to a tank either.
Wdym i play moji as damage,I'm d2.
@@umezonors her model and kit are bad for support class too lmao
Loool I remember years ago when Moji was considered the worst champion (like bottom tier) - everyone was somewhat onboard with the Healer Moji. But now she's not as unplayable so people aren't as happy.
I did hear she might be getting a talent that keeps the flank playstyle so fingers crossed.
Yeah the healer moji rework was a take 6 years ago
They never gave her any sort of vertical mobility while keeping 2 healing talents. She just needed proper attention to make her effective as a flank imo, I don't think making her a support is necessary in any way tbh.
Moji should not change roles
it looks like she would still be played as a flank kind like furia is played as a damage sup... in fact im worried that she can be even stronger now in some comps...
@@ranzu3138
Lex and other flanks/dmg don't have vertical mobility but still work out anyway. Don't think that's the problem man
Lets be real here Moji was suited better at being a Damage or Frontline more than a flanks so seeing this change will be intresting.
Although A support who gas a even bigger hit box that Pip will be intresting
lets se her cards, grover also has a huge hitbox but has damage reduction cards.
@@Luxgen-mp5bb They fucked all her cards up too, they released them in the PTS notes. There is no DR card.
@@ImSquiggs scoot gives 4% dr per stack, they included it in the patch notes
I don't know why but I feel like Moji doesn't fit in the support class. I mean, I don't see a champion like Moji mainly healing her teammates
good luck trying to heal half the champions with high mobility with this terrible moji rework idea
Well yeah since she's not a Support.
She's a Flank
She has a super horse?
I was on board with Moji becoming a support but not like this. I though they were going to make Magic Barrier have a healing aura similar to Skye smoke Screen or how you can detonate magic marks to heal all allies similar to Raums Subservience Talent. But not like this.
the whole idea of adding healing onto her attack is a failure of epic proportions... it basically makes her heal able to be blocked by a shield....
and there's no easy remedy to that.... like you cant just make her healing pass through shields like other healers because that also means her damage will be phasing through shields...
RIP my beloved Lillith, good luck being in F tier this patch 😔
😔😔😔
She really did got completly destroyed xD
Deserved
I dont know about the mark now healing. If people didnt enjoy playing dmg moji applying a burst dmg mark, I dont know is applying a burst dmg healing will be more fun
now I am waiting for Torvald update into support class
The “rework” is just friendly fire
They removed Magic Barrier and scamper can no longer bunny hop
@@ranzu3138magic barrier does 900 aoe shield
@@padde6677that's not what magic barrier is
can you just make moji better at flanking instead of killing her
thanks
the funny thing is that they MADE her better at flanking with the new infinite mobility, but at no point they thought "wait hold on let's try this change alone first"
Sha lin skin could have been a masterclass...
I'd be surprised if they even remembered that they've got a character named sha Lin in the roster.
@@zhin8294 sha is fine though, moji has been horrible for pretty much the entirety of their career
@IckyStickyRicky123 we're not talking about that, we're talking about a skin.
A skin for your Asian Robin Hood in an East meets west pass just seems like an easy thing to do.
But nah, another skin for Thot Angel
@@zhin8294 yeah ☹️
Do they even remember that sha lin exists? Lol
Lets make everyone a support character now, Andro can simply heal everyone by fisting them, and Viktor has a friendlier version of Napalm, I'm sure of it
To this day I believe that this ridiculous ability, from Saati Of that Coin, should be changed to something more useful.
I agree. Such a brain dead, high reward low risk ability
Would be cool if it consumed credits or something
@@spondylus4784 i would like it to resemble the coin mechanic from ultrakill
@@spondylus4784 that's actually smart
Goodbye my sweet Moji. You and me will always have back then...
I miss her
So, no magic barrier for Moji? Yeah, I'm really not digging these changes /:
Moji being changed into a damage wouldnt even require any changes. Moji becoming a better flank would just require a mobility buff. But completely snubbing her unique mechanics and making her a healer?
We don't need another kasumi situation and besides she still looks like she can flank pretty well, will probably be a good pocket for flanks actually
@@Roni69609she no longer has her magic barrier and scamper is much slower
we still need to see how the mark works for enemies, but if the magic barrier no longer grants inmunity, then moji dps/flanker is dead. She need that inmunity for her huge hitbox.
i also agree that minor changes could make her fit better as a flank, rather than this rework. Also applying a mark for burst healing doesnt feels more fun that applying a mark for burst dmg
@@Luxgen-mp5bb they removed the mark on enemies
@@Roni69609 I DONT WANT TO POCKET YOU
as a moji main, this can not happen!!!😭😭 moji good as she is… she’s a good flank
plus i’ve gotten like 60+ kills in one game😭 how am i supposed to heal and not kill with moji😫
shes a decent flank, all they needed to do was giving her more dmg reduction and double dash.
Yeah, the developers basically decided all Moji mains should just quit their game with this update. What an anti-community change.
At this point can you guys revive certain battles passes that we’re most recently.
Could this better be a new champion like Omen? A character that resembles Moji but in a support role. I like Moji being a flank, she just need work, i really dont think changing her class is the move here tbh :/
I don't know, Ying was a dps on release but is now a support, and I never hear anyone complaining about it. We'll get used to it.
@@Randomness662She was also bad until they giga buffed her.
@@moskiller6713 I think she's still bad from a character design standpoint. They can play with the numbers all they want, it won't change the fact that you HAVE to play Life Exchange for her to heal any significant amount. For instance, I can go "stun" Corvus, and still walk away with 120k healing easily and he doesn't even have any cards that reduce the cooldown of the heal. I think EM needs to take a step back and assess all the supports with fundamentally flawed healing in their kits like Jenos, Grohk, and Ying who rely on broken cards, talents, or numbers to be effective at healing.
@@Randomness662 Agreed with everything. EM needs to fix a lot of characters as everyone needs higher numbers in order to be playable because of the Item store. Or they need to play a specific talent/card. What's the point of having talents and cards if your just going to play the same broken stuff all game?
I doubt they will ever fix Paladin as it would take a lot of time, money, and people to fix every character. Hopefully they will make Paladins 2 and fix the problems that the original Paladins had.
@@Randomness662 Moji has been a flank for a long time now, and she has a fair amount of players that like her. She definitely needed some work, but completely changing her class is not the move.
She never got verticality, interesting flank talents, or improvement on her mobility.
This game had potential
8 years ago now I get second hand embarrassed from playing it
@@se7en910 it's a flex, being able to play this game for more than 30 minutes is a big achievement!
I love that they actually started to solve bugs and revork unhealthy things for the game. But the devs have to balance revorks and changes with new content. Also maybe they should star to put some money into marketing the game to actually attract new players. Other than that, I am excited for this update.
Its true
Say that to Hi-Rez
Now if they can just get rid of universal cauterize, that would be much needed.
@@ShogunPlasma haha no lol
@@Luxgen-mp5bb haha yes lol
Don't tell me that you're actually braindead enough to think that permanent cauterize was a good decision. If you are, then you're just bad at the game and need to learn how to play properly.
Well... Lilith is dead. Time to play her as much as I can before these changes are applied.
How? I'm confused
@@TheButterSurge because she sacrifices her own health to heal others, now she can't even put a fully charged swarm down without being at risk of getting one-shot by a sniper.
@@maldambao6126 not to mention I was killed many times in ult before these changes, they're gonna instantly slap me now when I ult xD it's sad since she was nerfed already and didn't have nearly as much blood gain like when on release when she was a tank. She's not even picked in ranked nor is she banned... she is perfectly balanced so I don't know why the huge nerf now is needed... Oh well... First Skye now Lilith. I wonder who's next on the list to make it feel like hell for me to play @_@
The skins are crazy good!!!
yea i love that moji looks like a squeezed chihuahua
not gonan lie, the moji skins looks really bad, like it looks like a cursed doll or something. not ugly funny, just ugly ugly, mainly the colors and those eyes. Some day we moji players will get a good skin, this one and the previous one were dissapointing
Wait a minute, Spit Shine and Jubilation augment either Po or Li for healing or damage... respectively. Do we finally know which is Po and which is Li?
Just checked patch notes.
You didn't "increase Lillith's versatility" at all lmao. You guys just straight up murdered her.
Massive reduction to health, but swarm at lv 3 still consumes 800 blood. And now you're also taking her mobility away by reworking Wings of Terror into a useless card? Amazing work, guys.
Hi-Rez try not to ruin their game challenge impossible
Moji main guess im finding a new main this loses all the fun of moji :(
There is no other character in this game to fill the Moji niche. Moji mains finding a new game to play is more like it.
I think it'll be easier for me to find a new game to enjoy tbh.
@@ImSquiggs there really isn't any other champ that feels like him its quite sad
@@RetroPanda13 honestly there just arent more mojis in this game lol
more like find a new game lol
are yall getting kicked out of the matches and having absurd ping?
NA servers are all messed up today. Seems the SEA bug is spreading.
i wouldve loved to see moji have some sort of different ability instead of just changing her shield to be aoe and making li heal
I left paladins when vatu was released so how is the game now wondering if I should start it again?
I cant stop playing and idk why
Ive been really enjoying it lately.
You can't play a single game without 100 infuriating problems. Most aggressive 1 you will never complete a match because it's crashes for 0 reasons guarantee every game. And it's everyone being kicked. Only so many times you can put up with looking at the loading screen more than playing.
@Honkinonthebobo you will don't worry
Please make the battle pass quickest to complete, with work and responsibilities never finish any.
Now waiting for the damage Furia class shuffle
furia is still a damager... she also use to be a really powerful healer... until they changed the way her healing beams worked.... now i cant stand her cause using the beams is just a friggen task and everyone's just horrible at placement with em... they worked so much better when they just automatically stopped on allies....
the 10 paladins fan left will be eating good
They nuked Liliths health….
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Nice! I'm looking forward to the interesting changes. I want to get the team back for this one.
Yall joking right? Late april fools? I disagree with this new moji switch. I rather keep her as a flank.
I feel it best to replace one of the talents with current/old Moji. I wouldn't want to leave the dedicated Moji mains hanging.
Nah just give us back Flank Moji completely, put Toot in her base kit so that you can replace Toot with the simili rework (her weapon can heal allies just like Grohk can).
This is the easiest most simplest way to implement a "Support Moji".
This rework is just plain garbage
The only change I wanted for Moji is for her to blink in her skins...
Also as soon as I opened the game the Bomb King skin was T-posing in the menu... With the screen overlay misplaced on the left and sometimes the login resets even if I logged in before the reset.
Do you need help Evil Mojo?
truly a Paladins moment
I miss the full livestreams D:
Idk, I like how bite-sized and direct this is. Much less unnecessary yapping and cringey jokes lol.
No thanks. In the past I would've agreed with you. I used to enjoy the livestreams as well. But ever since this cringe weirdo took over the hosting, the less I have to sit through his yapping the better. This quick fire method is much preferred.
@@zhin8294 Yeah, back then all patch note streams were fun, best part of Paladins tbh. The devs were all fun and full of characters, even the cringy stuffs were fun too. But now the new devs just be yapping with monotone voice and bad mics the whole streams
I remember when Io was added with Bazaar and the beach skins. That was a good update stream, lovely new champion, great skins and a new map. @@itikuekuek
happy to see older stuff being back.
Me too, hopefully they track the data on which talents and champs people like and use that for future stuff
Whattttt I never thought I’d see the day they change Moji 😮I kinda like it though 😌👍
we STILL have MASSIVE problems on european servers. it just sends you back to the main menu every now and then NO MATTER WHEN! in game, in champion selection etc. FIX THAT before revealing a dumb skin for moji.
Is this update gunna fix the literal disconnect every game. My Internet is banging it's not me it's you. How can I enjoy your game if I'm in constant fear of not finishing a match.
Expend 1mil ammo next trial anyone
From the brilliant minds that brought you the Moji murder comes the newest challenge "shoot at a wall for 20 hours idiot"
When will the PS4 cross save be available?
Honestly you should consider bringing back paladin's strike. The game was before its time and now every game company is trying to figure out a similar formula. Even the earned media of "dead game" turning on a server or two for a limited time like a Phoenix rising from its ashes would get so many people talking.
YOU REALLY BUFFED REI ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She deserved it hehe. No but for real i dont think its a buff. She heals more but less effectively
@@kiyuthakat4934 i dont care about the healing she does , i want them to nerf her dmg and the spirit link , its so annoying to play against esp if ur a flanker the spirit link ruins the game and does too much dmg when she plays focus talent , also the should nerf the DR its too much TOO much shes immortal
@@kiyuthakat4934 its a buff. U will now run max DR and max ult gen and just be an ult charger all game. its even more obnoxious than it was before. You never picked rei for healing output before
RIP paladins, you were fun while it lasted!
Moji stuff aside, that furia skin looked so cool
so why cant we preview the skins on the event pass stuff in game?? I have no idea whats new in these passes.
So now instead of making new characters there just turning original ones to different roles?
Yeah, they are so hard up for money and developer time that they're literally deleting old characters and reusing their skins for "new characters". It's super insulting to the community, not to mention just straight up lazy.
You killed Moji for the most uninspired redesign of all time. Wow, you took all her current abilities and made them worse -- cool.
Also, the community manager Kryptek promised a viable flank version of Moji would still be available. What the hell happened there? You took away her AOE, you cut her damage in half, you broke her Magic Shield, and your DPS talent is a BUFF TO HER SPRAY THAT DOES NO DAMAGE. And this is the kicker -- the buff is FIVE DAMAGE HIGHER THAN CURRENT MOJI.
So she lost everything about her that's cool, became a boring support that sits behind the team and sprays mindlessly all game, and the flex-to-flank feature you promised is a five damage buff alongside nerfs to literally every other part of her kit. Cool. But hey, at least you made Scamper infinite -- you know, that ability everyone cuts off early because bunny hopping is more fun anyways?
You guys killed Moji to reuse her skins and art for this dumb support version no one wanted, and the only people that are going to enjoy playing it are people that never liked Moji to begin with. Hope that was worth killing off a whole section of Moji mains that have nothing to get excited for in your game now. Classic Evil Mojo anti-community move, what an insult.
when giving feedback on moji fix we have to take into account the fact that people didn't want it and there were few of us who liked it
@@Melovelot I agree with you. Better yet Imma stop whinning for a bit and not only ask to revert Moji back to what she was before the class change but ask for buffs (Toot in base kit, second dash...) and the Support version being changed into a new Echo Champion a la Omen.
We don't accept Support Moji but we're willing instead to give level-headed feedbacks and to even resurrect the Echo idea so that any changes they want for the old champions be repurposed into Echo champions instead (like the Torvald reworks some people want).
They should let us play both moji’s as separate champions
Why not a new healer entirely, i think moji works way better just as a flank not healer, im not hating but it just seems a bit odd
Please do rework Moji into suport. We suffeded enough.
That’s what this stupid update is about 😭😭😭 I wanted an new support but I’ll take a rework I guess
There's a lot of stuff that can be done with Moji before completely reworking her class. She's not Kasumi.
they didng gave upo with kasumi after implementing like 3 reworks but they refue to do minor changes to make moji a more suitable flank. Literally just give her more dmg reduction and a double dash and its done.
The missed oppurtunity for giving Io a kitsune/shrine maiden skin is huge
Bro I just bought moji for 60k and now she's cheaper the next day
I play 4 supports, 3 tanks, 1 DPS.
please don't ruin the one DPS I actually like and feels different, I really don't want to play another support. if this goes through as the braindead overwatch-clone character that it's being turned into, i'm just gonna uninstall the game because honestly what a slap in the face from the dev's to anyone who plays this character; "Stop having fun as a DPS, here's your dunce cap, heal your team and sit back and shut up" because that's really fun...
This is honestly the best chance you had at making an echo champion. Only reason it didnt work on omen was because jenos is rather obscure already. Your taking a flank with a hyper niche cult of people who have worked their ass off honing their skills and trying to get better at a character who has always struggled into the meta and throwing away their efforts. I havent seen the rework yet so i cant confirm this but as it stands right now, moji losing her identity isnt the play. An echo champion here would have been peak.
I’m guessing they did it because Moji as a support has been something considered for years, and nobody wants a new champion because we have too many.
@@jermx487 Nobody wants Moji as a support unless they don't play her now. When your update pisses off everyone that currently plays the champion and is only exciting to people that don't care abot her, then that's a perfect candidate for a new champion rather than trashing an old one for a rework.
@@ImSquiggs You’re right. Although, it seems they aren’t looking to make new champions anytime soon though. 🤷
like lilith main I knew that one day I would get angry but not that I would also uninstall the game (and everyone is waiting for a rework of yago)
Can't believe you actually went through with the Moji murder. What a tone-deaf team. You had people yelling at you not to do this on all your socials, and you know what Kryptek the community manager said? No one is upset by this rework. What an insult. They don't even care enough to look into their community to see how their update is being received, they just do the most surface-level bullshit PR for it and call it a "community leader job well done".
This game has a history of pushing unpopular updates that kill off pieces of the community, and this is just another brick in the fucking wall from a development team that couldn't push a popular update if their life depended on it. The fact the community manager Kryptek confirmed the dev team knew that this update wouldn't be received well and they went through with it anyways is a complete insult.
The people that run this game put minimal effort into their job to skate by and get a paycheck.
Oh my god what have they done to Lillith? She had so much blood health because she has to constantly use it for her abilities. How could they rework certain abilities or cards to make this change good? And supports will heal less and deal more damage? This entire update looks like a mess already 😤
So healers no longer 'heal'? I know very few that would welcome more damage over staying the same (no patch) or better healing. Just run all DPS / Flank with a DPS Tank thrown in (Raum for healing and a 10k health card build). Maybe play a support for "old time's sake" but stop playing Support for faster 'twitch' matches.
Overwatch went this route. Why I stopped playing it altogether since it went to OW 2.0 ...errr, OW 2. 🙄
@Zarrick I think some supports didn't get healing nerfs but others like Grover, Lillith, Ying, Grohk and Rei did, probs a bit more but not everyone. And a lot got a few minor damage buffs too. Imo it was a silly change, there's nothing wrong with healing and it's the primary function of a support. Why encourage people to do that less?
But Lillith got hit hard, healing nerfs everywhere they could've given her. She was strong, I'll give them that but still felt unnecessary. I also saw on the bp timer that it's going to be 155 days until the next update. So if that's not a bug and it's true, we're stuck with people wanting to do more damage than healing for 5 months 😂 It's not the worst update but I feel like a lot of these changes were so unnecessary and they just ran out of things to do
@@AndrewC79 Instead of patching apparent bugs and glitches affect gameplay, many of these companies listen to the thumb-sucking whales that fill their stockholders bank accounts.
A shame about Lilith. I got used to manually dropping her AOE instead of the cop-out "follow me" version. Got alot of kills / heals that way. Still have to play her to 50 so I can get the gold-skin (which looks awesome at least). Grinding from 43 will be hell now. 😑
I really hope I don't have to erase this game from my HD because game developers feel they are helping the fanbase by breaking an already bug-infested mess.
Thanks for the reply. Just have to suffer through. Hopefully the skins are nice. The game mechanics are broken beyond repair but those characters are hot! 🙄
@Zarrick This game really is a joke but we're all still holding on, the characters are the only thing keeping us going. I cannot believe how bad the bugs are and how they just do not fix them. Perfect example, if you didn't know, Rei's healing has been bugged for over 2 years now. Her heal orb spins around in a little circle sometimes and doesn't heal. They gave her a talent that really helps with it at least but 2 years is ridiculous and it's still going, like it can really affect her healing.
And Lillith is def worth playing to 50, her golden skin is awesome and she's still a wicked character. It's fair they nerfed her but imo they nerfed her too much, she definitely feels worse and different with those additional cooldowns for her first talent but we'll manage. And the skins are not bad, this game is still 10x better than OW. At least I don't have to spend $30 on a skin that does nothing and die in 0.5 seconds everytime or listen to more of Blizzard's bs
How do you expect to gain players over overwatch when you refuse to deal with afk, trolls and throwers. It's every 8 out of 10 games and so painful to play.
This last game mode is gonna be the best ever mode
WAIT AS A MOJI MAIN I LOVE THE SCAMPER BIT I HATE WHY IS SHE BECOMING A SUPPORT ??? SHE WAS THE ONLY CHARACTER IN FLANK THAT I KNOW WELL HOW TO PLAY
Evil Mojo is deleting current Moji to re-use her skins for this dumb Support version. And yeah, everyone that plays her is equally as mad as you are right now -- it's a complete slap in the face from a development team that doesn't really care about their community.
I can't finish the trials. Everything resets back to 0%. Expend 500,000 Ammo, Expend 150,000 Ammo, Play 20 Onslaught, and the 200 Eliminations all rested back to 0 some several times already.
Should add Zhin Samurai skin tho.
Yeah, Moji's heal is prettyyy good and all but, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SPARKLE DAMAGE???😭
THAT'S INSANE.
old talents? Wait does that mean death & taxes lian makes her triumphant return as the bane of all supports :D
paladins coming back to prime? look at those skins!👏
pls dont make her sup pls
April fools was 38 days ago :(
bring back killcam and character 2d pictures on loading screen and ill go back to playing this game
Oof i Main moji and i expected a rework, but a class change is something else, idk how to feel
All the Moji mains wanted a buff for her for six years in a row. Instead they ignore her until they delete her to reuse her skins for this dumb support version.
Relatively new player here but interesting update!
We needed this io view, why don't we have it?😭😭
Hey, how about you guys revert the permanent cauterize for a change? It's not healthy for the game and should be brought back as an item. Or at the very least even give more characters access to anti-heal in their base kits instead of it mainly being Willow with the anti-heal circle.
RIP moji she did nothing wrong
Ran here hoping a dev will see this comment
PLEASE ADD MULTIPLAYER PRACTISE LOBBY SUPPORT.
I'm glad you guys are considering newer players but honestly most new players get drawn in by friends and it sucks that the only way you can show them the ropes is via a bot lobby instead of a multiplayer enabled training room.
Please clear this up as I've tried to introduce 5 of my friends to the game but they get overwhelmed with the sheer amount of mechanics and each just quits playing.
"oh my god I cant believe IT, a new moji skin, finally after the slop of the previous one we moji mains can finally... OH MY GOODNESS !!!"
washed out colors aside, those eyes give me nightmares ,also whats up with her hair? it looks like an old broom.
I'm glad someone mentioned the eyes lol, the rest of the skin is cool but man those eyes...
Am i the only who can finish a battle? The game disconnet all the time
so lazy again, small changes, probably this is why we didnt have an update show again :D
Where is the patch notes?
I want a new character
there are really many characters it's best to fix the game and characters and then make new ones i love paladins and i really don't want them to die
Ppl been talking about the bugs and balance for so long, much longer than new champ
when you read comments and realize how many people dont know how to abuse moji. sad.
but if they do a rework, having a different talent like pip where it can be used as a heal or a dmg/ flank would be better for more average players that dont want to sink hundreds of hours into being crazy at a champion..
When are you going to bring out new characters.
Ok but that furia sword tho
2:10 Angry Konan noises
BK SKIN LETS GOOOOO
That's 2 Leipori in the same class / role . At least design a Giant Rabbit skin for Khan
First idea about this update that I actually liked… gimme bunny Khan
finally good decision to rework her, guys stop crying cause its the best rework yet!@!
We have to thank Thor for saving the game 🙏
Feel like people are going to complain even more about needing healing now with less healing from healers
the effects on the furia skin look cool as hell but... the hair?
Angry Konan noises
it's so funny seeing the NA playerbase dislike that Moji rework lol
when the subreddit folks that have consistently given terrible feedback after terrible feedback agree that something is poorly thought out, that should tell you you've messed up big time
all i ask is that the servers stop crashing its hard
to even play one game at the moment
and if i didnt see this video from the link in game i would have no idea