Andrew mentioned Julian Jaynes myth, nice. This was an interesting and somewhat relatable conversation. I hope this becomes a series with other types. Thank you, Joyce
Ti+ Si can just be kind off nitpicky. If you say something 90% right, Si picks that up as wrong becasue it's not 10% incorrect and it then feels the need to correct it. I think all Si types can have this " issue", but in a different way combined with different other functions. As a comparison, with Ni types you have to sort of stay ' on topic' (or what they perceive as the topic) and basically it's the same sort of restriction, but in a different way, whereas types with Ne have broad topics and there are no restrictions on where you can go and other Ne types more easily follow along because Ne views topics in a more broad way than Ni. Introverted functions in general are just more (overly) perfectionistic and uptight compared to extraverted ones,
Maybe I know a simple way to also understand the type for each person just see the hero function and the inferior one, the hero hides the inferior one, like I'll give you a logical reasoning (Ti) but my real goal is to help you or improve the social system (Fe ). I make you feel good (FE) but my real goal is to understand the truth (TI/ESFJ) etc I think it's a fairly simple method but I don't know how far it can go 🤔
I believe that every human being can only control 3/4 functions at the same time and sometimes and often only uses 1 or 2, we forget the others and being animals of habit we are stuck in a loop where the same or similar things often happen to us. I believe that for social interactions an INTP must control FI and not only show it when one is angry but try to understand the feeling that that social interaction brings and the connection with FE and have behavioral strategies to implement in cases that are repeated. In this way we take into account both what is appropriate to do in that social context and what it may cause but also whether there are personal feelings that make us act in that way.
Charlie always struck me as ISTP rather than INTP. Lives in the moment. Child Ni with Ti Hero is what gives him his biting quick wit and extraordinary comebacks so quickly. Always talks about is, facts, reality (Se), rather than abstract concepts theories ideas or conceptualizations like INTPs do. A great example of a UA-camr INTP would be gamer YT Max Derrat. Always talking about abstract or conceptual matters as they relate to games and media. Very Ti-Dom way of speaking. His Ne is very apparent. You can easily spot this difference in the way Max speaks vs. Charlie. Another great INTP example would be Adam from YMS. Same thing. Another ISTP YT I could recommend would be Apollo Legend (RIP). Easily identifiable Ti-Hero, but his manner of speaking is heavily Se-Ni perception focused rather than Ne-Si focused. Hope this helped some. Thanks for the content Joyce!
So you think that moist critical is an INTP…. Do you know that how he started was to take no money and to donate it towards a good cause I need that for years to his own detriment until he got into a car accident and some legal trouble and he asked his viewers if it was OK if he used some of that money to help himself defend himself. That’s pretty selfless and there’s quite a bit of extroverted feeling going on in that decision. I think you’re completely wrong. Moist critical is an INFJ. This is what objective personality does they type someone on videos that have nothing to do with somebody being authentic. I think you should apply the gold water rule to this just to avoid embarrassment of being wrong being right like this is only subjective.
Eh, just because someone wants to do kind things doesn’t inherently mean they have to have high Fe. He definitely seems to lead more with a Ti than an Ni, and in fact, doesn’t seem to have Ni at all. He is far more likely to have Ne due to his constant tangent points he brings up of related patterns in comparison to stories he reacts to. I’ve heard that story from that video, but again, that doesn’t snot mean INTPs don’t want to help society. I know a couple INTPs that have done similar things.
Also feelers can become bad guy. I know enfp and esfp that driven by uncontrolled hate instead of love. Sean Strickland is enfp , lucky for him his hate outlet is UFC (childhood trauma , his dad beat the shit out of him and his mom, also his grandpa is neonazi), so he don't hurt innocent people.
fictional bad guy feelers: INFJ: Krazy8 from breaking bad is Bad ESFJ: Lalo Salamanca from better call Saul ISFP :Hector Salamanca ESFP :Tuco Salamanca
Objective personality types people so often badly. They type clear as day non intps as intp like The Dazey INTP". Look up on youtube and tell me within 30 seconds its extremely clear she's not Ti and espeically not dominant.
❤ Ti chat. Thanks for the long form, Joyce; great job!
Andrew mentioned Julian Jaynes myth, nice. This was an interesting and somewhat relatable conversation. I hope this becomes a series with other types. Thank you, Joyce
Ti+ Si can just be kind off nitpicky. If you say something 90% right, Si picks that up as wrong becasue it's not 10% incorrect and it then feels the need to correct it. I think all Si types can have this " issue", but in a different way combined with different other functions. As a comparison, with Ni types you have to sort of stay ' on topic' (or what they perceive as the topic) and basically it's the same sort of restriction, but in a different way, whereas types with Ne have broad topics and there are no restrictions on where you can go and other Ne types more easily follow along because Ne views topics in a more broad way than Ni. Introverted functions in general are just more (overly) perfectionistic and uptight compared to extraverted ones,
Maybe I know a simple way to also understand the type for each person just see the hero function and the inferior one, the hero hides the inferior one, like I'll give you a logical reasoning (Ti) but my real goal is to help you or improve the social system (Fe ).
I make you feel good (FE) but my real goal is to understand the truth (TI/ESFJ) etc I think it's a fairly simple method but I don't know how far it can go 🤔
Good chat…lots to think on
The truth is out there.
I see a lot of myself in Andrew, very similar mannerisms as well!
I don't make a connection between truth and impulsivity.
I wanna know the difference between truth and reality . Anyome here define it guys
Why is penguinzo on the banner thingy ? 😂 🤓 intp ?
estp?
Yes, he's a very obvious INTP lol
I thought he was an infj but I don't follow him so I don't know
He seems very Se, and anything but Se PoLR with his guns and everything. He seems Se first or second to me
I believe that every human being can only control 3/4 functions at the same time and sometimes and often only uses 1 or 2, we forget the others and being animals of habit we are stuck in a loop where the same or similar things often happen to us. I believe that for social interactions an INTP must control FI and not only show it when one is angry but try to understand the feeling that that social interaction brings and the connection with FE and have behavioral strategies to implement in cases that are repeated. In this way we take into account both what is appropriate to do in that social context and what it may cause but also whether there are personal feelings that make us act in that way.
But am I the only intp who hates constantly thinking?
I saw penguin0 and thought he had dirt on joyce! Guess hes an intp?
Haha - I mean he’s likely an INTP, however internet personas can be different than how people are like in real life, so who knows. 🤷♀️
He is TiNi in OPS.
@@olifkevla6351 Pretty much every NT Ti type (Other than the demon sleep ENTPs) is an INTP outside of OPS, so it kinda makes sense
@@NicStride What is OPS?
Is penguin0 another UA-camr?
I guess penguin is esfp
Charlie always struck me as ISTP rather than INTP.
Lives in the moment. Child Ni with Ti Hero is what gives him his biting quick wit and extraordinary comebacks so quickly. Always talks about is, facts, reality (Se), rather than abstract concepts theories ideas or conceptualizations like INTPs do.
A great example of a UA-camr INTP would be gamer YT Max Derrat. Always talking about abstract or conceptual matters as they relate to games and media. Very Ti-Dom way of speaking. His Ne is very apparent. You can easily spot this difference in the way Max speaks vs. Charlie.
Another great INTP example would be Adam from YMS. Same thing.
Another ISTP YT I could recommend would be Apollo Legend (RIP). Easily identifiable Ti-Hero, but his manner of speaking is heavily Se-Ni perception focused rather than Ne-Si focused.
Hope this helped some. Thanks for the content Joyce!
is charlie the long haired pinguin guy?
So you think that moist critical is an INTP…. Do you know that how he started was to take no money and to donate it towards a good cause I need that for years to his own detriment until he got into a car accident and some legal trouble and he asked his viewers if it was OK if he used some of that money to help himself defend himself. That’s pretty selfless and there’s quite a bit of extroverted feeling going on in that decision. I think you’re completely wrong. Moist critical is an INFJ. This is what objective personality does they type someone on videos that have nothing to do with somebody being authentic. I think you should apply the gold water rule to this just to avoid embarrassment of being wrong being right like this is only subjective.
Eh, just because someone wants to do kind things doesn’t inherently mean they have to have high Fe. He definitely seems to lead more with a Ti than an Ni, and in fact, doesn’t seem to have Ni at all. He is far more likely to have Ne due to his constant tangent points he brings up of related patterns in comparison to stories he reacts to. I’ve heard that story from that video, but again, that doesn’t snot mean INTPs don’t want to help society. I know a couple INTPs that have done similar things.
Ti and Fe are connected to each other. can't be separated, same axis.
Also feelers can become bad guy. I know enfp and esfp that driven by uncontrolled hate instead of love. Sean Strickland is enfp , lucky for him his hate outlet is UFC (childhood trauma , his dad beat the shit out of him and his mom, also his grandpa is neonazi), so he don't hurt innocent people.
fictional bad guy feelers:
INFJ: Krazy8 from breaking bad is Bad
ESFJ: Lalo Salamanca from better call Saul
ISFP :Hector Salamanca
ESFP :Tuco Salamanca
Objective personality types people so often badly. They type clear as day non intps as intp like The Dazey INTP". Look up on youtube and tell me within 30 seconds its extremely clear she's not Ti and espeically not dominant.