Dell OptiPlex Budget Gaming PC For Under $300?
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- So, can you build a PC that cost as much as a console, but performs better? Let's find out as we finally put the OptiPlex budget gaming PC together and test it out in part 4 of this 5 part series. You can check out the other video here. And don't forget to check out the buyers guide.
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Part 2: Adding A Little Airflow: tinyurl.com/r4zubgk
Part 3: 4th Gen i5 GPU Selection Guide: tinyurl.com/sal243q
Part 5: Windows 10 For Free: tinyurl.com/roazlrv
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Start
0:43 - What We're Working With
1:32 - Cleaning It Up
2:45 - Putting It Back Together
3:35 - Dealing With The Front Fan
5:12 - Mounting The HDD
6:23 - Where To Put The SSD
7:01 - Cable Management
10:27 - Performance
14:38 - Price
17:07 - Conclusion
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Okay, I need to address all the power supply comments. There's absolutely nothing wrong with what I did, and here's why. Yes, nVidia says the minimum power supply you should run with the 1060 is a 400 watt. That's because not all 400 watt PSU's are created equal. Cheap power supplies might only be able to sustain that wattage for a split second, but might settle back down to 300, watts or less. Unlike a decent power supply that can maintain that wattage. nVidia knows this, and thus the rating. To make sure their customers are covered in case they buy a garbage PSU.
Now, 300 watts is enough to run this system. I've tested it and the components should be pulling around 210 watts from the PSU. The PSU in these Dells is capable of maintaining 290 watts. I tested this with an RX 480, pushing close to it rated limit for 4 hours and it did it without a problem. This leaves you a 70-80 watt headroom with a 1060 6GB. Even more on a 1060 3GB, which is fine and there is no danger to the components. That being said, from a power delivery standpoint, there's zero difference here. They would both provide about the same wattage and gove you the same amount of head room. Though I would argue the 290 watt PSU in the Dell would be higher quality than a PSU like that.
So, that statement from nVidia exists to simplify, so they don't have to try to issue and explanation like the one i just gave you and make it easier for their customers.
You say this. Then use a cheap OEM psu from an optiplex........really?
@@Cyrus_Nagisa That's the damn point of the comment. It's not a cheap PSU. If you had read everything, you'd see that it's rated at 290 watts continuous. You need to stop using wattage ratings as a metric of quality. There are a lot of high wattage rated PSU's that are trash that can't really deliver their rated wattage.
@@Cyrus_Nagisa one of the more butt hurt people ive seen as ive watched this unfold
I saw nothing wrong with this video. The problem is you're more advanced than most people, and everyone thinks they're an expert. The 1060 is what 120w? The i5 maybe 65w? The Dell power supplies are actually not that bad. They do have lower wattages and few connectors, but they do deliver the wattage they're rated to have.
Just watched RTU video and that is what brought me here. Very nice of him to send people to your channel. I'm subbed now.
@@ItIsNot1984 are you sure theres nothing wrong
I realize that I didn't include Windows in the cost of the build... and that's because it was free. For some reason I forgot to include that, but I'll upload a video soon about how you can easily get legit Windows 10 for free.
Also worth noting that most of the optiplexes on ebay have a legit windows 7 COA which can be upgraded to windows 10 for free.
Is this gaming pc good? It costs 1200$
Intel® Core™ i7-9700-processor
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super, 8 GB
16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD
XxAleks04xX way overpriced but yes
@@ScullyBrewing bruh its on sale to norway is expensive
@@MrGeasel That is what I did. Installed win 7 then upgraded to 10. I was surprised to see that the free upgrade was still available.
I'm so glad to have found your channel. I really like the way you compare and explain. It's not overly complicated and too technical. You explain it all simply but accurately. Great content
Thanks! I appreciate that. It's something I really struggle with. Trying to be detailed, without getting too complicated.
@@TheGameBench I understand that for sure. I have that problem as well. Feel like I need to explain why in detail to the point it becomes boring and technical. I can't imagine trying to get it just right for a UA-cam video so many people will see lol
@@BamaChad-W4CHD Yep, it's a super fine balance. I think I do at least four revisions when I write scripts, and even then, sometimes crap get's cut out in editing.
@@TheGameBench Agree with Bama, Great video's and have aged well. The only thing I wish I had would be on that buylist some sort of "* this item isn't needed if you are ______". For example, can't find in the video it mentions the Press On SATA Connectors /Endcap. Seems like maybe 8:35?
Solid video bro
Putting yourself out there especially knowing how how many mouthy PC building “experts” there are in the UA-cam comments jungle is far more than most parroting RTU are willing to do
I commend your patience
Thanks. I really do appreciate that.
@@TheGameBench I appreciate you man
Just finished my optiplex build and am loving it! For upgrades I added a 1050 ti and a 2tb hdd in addition to the ssd that came installed, and have managed to spend under $200 on everything. This is the perfect entry in to pc gaming, and it’s actually super affordable if you can find a decent price on a Gpu. I love this thing and can’t recommend it enough.
optiplex master race
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I recently got a free Optiplex 390 MT i5 2400 from work, they were gonna throw it away in the electronic recycle dump! I'm currently waiting on my GPU, SSD and RAM.
@@KickapooNinja noice
I've got a 990, (not knowing that it's a lot harder to setup for gaming) i7 2600, rx 580, (hard drive cage removal was required), and 16 gigs of ram, a fully vr capable machine, and even better for regular gaming!, and it still looks like a regular office pc, and I'm all about that
@@KickapooNinja my friend gave me one of those with the i5 2400 with an ssd that his work threw out. I stuffed the low profile rx560 4gb (that’s all that would fit in the case) and it is a super cheap gaming box.
@@drewmalbica7694 good one. I ended up getting a 1050ti 4g cuz the box was big enough, new 500w power supply and some more ram. Also tossed in a 500gb ssd for os/other stuff and a 1tb ssd for games, cuz why not?😁
I was just about to install a GTX 750ti on my Dell Optiplex 390 then I got this notification
I just finished installation and testing... My build is struggling with fortnite alone open
Do you have the i5 or i3 Optiplex 390? The dual core is gonna be terrible for modern gaming.
@@jeremebp i3 2120
@@thevoyageof67 yeah that sucks. Need the quad core to get decent fps these days.
Yeah, and even quad cores are starting to struggle. Game developers are really starting to optimize for cores. If you've got about $50, you can get an i7 2600 and put it in there. If you don't have $50, the i5 2500 is about $20 on eBay and it will really help.
Nice work on the build/upgrade as well as the video in general. ;)
Absolutely awesome and extremely informative video series on the Optiplex. Thank you so much for your time and effort!!!!
This right here is quality content! You've just earned yourself a sub :)
My 11 year old son wants to get into building his own computer. I hope you keep putting out content on this type of build as i would love to be able to work with him on a project based on you contact. Keep going and thank you.
That's awesome! That's exactly why I do these videos. I fully intend to make more of these kinds of videos and I've got quite a few ideas for more videos to keep em' coming.
Very good video and practical info. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks for watching!
Such smooth amazing production, love your videos!
Your videos are fantastic and ACTUALLY educational. I'm building an Optiplex 790 and used much of your information. There's a lot the other guys don't mention. And the snooty PC guys need to understand that these can work. You just have to be patient when looking for components that will work. They just don't check the "status" box for those guys. Thank you.
Thanks! The irony is that... I could be considered one of those guys considering my personal rigs, but I learned a long time ago to be more objective. And I'm glad you found my videos useful.
@@TheGameBench You automatically take yourself out of that category by making this video.
Yess lets see some pc builds from you 🔥🔥🔥
Well, it seems there's enough support for this, so I'll be making one for sure.
The Game Bench yeah let’s do it 😊
Very nice work man. I like the idea of the pull off 3m tabs. The tie downs are great as well. Keep up the great work man.
Thanks man! Yeah, they're much easier to remove than that 3M double sided tape.
hey, just wanted to say that I genuinely love your video series on the optiplex
Thanks! I really appreciate that. There's a lot more on the way.
Underrated content, props for the neat cable management
Introverted you’re welcome.
Thanks! I've been accused of being OCD for it, but it honestly took less time than my regular builds.
The Game Bench Most people don’t even know what OCD is lmao
@@element1192 Yep, they think anyone who's organized is OCD when they don't have a clue how far it goes. I like to say I'm a detail oriented perfectionist. I'm nothing close to being OCD.
@@TheGameBench It is CDO. There, I rearranged the letters into the correct order for you.
please make a pc building tutorial
Seems like I'm going to have to add that to my list of videos.
This was an awesome videos,great job! 👍
love the content, really cool to see you have the Tekken Tag 1 Kazuya on your wall that made this video even better for me personally :)
Awesome stuff man! keep em rollin'. Will be tuned in for more.
Thanks! I really appreciate the support.
I love doing these Optiplex builds. I usually do the smaller ones though, I like a challenge! 😂 👍 Great video though, used 1060s give a nice bang for the buck at the moment.
Help, I am putting a new ssd Replacing my old hd for Inspiron 3020. What do I need to keep it as back up storage hd? Can I keep inside these 2 drives?? Any adapters cables I need help me???
Just found your channel as I recently bought an Optiplex 7020, and was looking for good upgrade suggestions. I have you say you really know your way around these systems and your advice is solid, despite the naysayers who want to nitpick your videos. You just earned another sub. Keep up the great work!
Thanks! I'll do my best.
after watching the video and going through the comments, you've got another sub. you know what you're talking about. i look forward to watching more build videos.
Thanks for the sub!
I love this guy, he keeps it so simple
Simple? Shows pin layout of the SATA power cable and recommend to do a mod to beginners that even most experienced builders won't bother to do!
I virtually have the same build! I commented not too long ago about putting an rx460 into an optiplex 790 but i opted for the 1060 6gb which included removing the hard drive bay. I get wonderful temps on LOOONG gaming sessions without a front fan in place and with the cover still on. Im running a 600W psu, i7 2600, 250gb ssd, 500gb hdd (will upgrade to 1tb ssd one day) and finally 16gb of ram. I got my pc for free from work and right now i have a total of 200 dollars in my build which is outstanding because i can play any game i want on 1080p high-ultra settings with no issues. Thanks for the vids!
looks like you know a lot about PC's so is this gaming pc good? It costs 1200$
Intel® Core™ i7-9700-processor
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super, 8 GB
16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD
@@xxaleks04xx70 you can piece it together and build it yourself for less
isnt that very hard?
That's awesome! Yeah, I found that the front fan had no effect on temps with the 1060's I've been using. Only really matters if you're using a GPU with poor cooling. I started with some MSi Armor cards which have really bad coolers on them and they were throttling without it. It was just enough of a difference to keep the clocks from dropping. I am going to do an updated video to open up that front panel too.
Building a PC is pretty straight forward. Seems I'm going to have to make a video on that in the future. However, for now, I suggest watching JayzTwoCents or Pual's Hardware. They both have good tutorial videos.
This is my 3rd video that I watched as a reference to a live stream rig for my church (low budget / best performance) and I have to say that your methodology is spot on. Thanks for taking the time in researching and putting together these videos. It's been a big help.
Thanks! I really appreciate that. If you're looking into streaming with one of these, I'd go with the i7 4770 or 4790, and with current prices, it's easy to get them for not much more than people are selling the i5 models for. Then I'd go with something like the GTX 1070 or 1080 and use the build in encoder to encode the stream.
New sub, hey man I am 63 and just now looking into computers and builds, never even thought about it until covid19, I just got a optiplex 9020 sff so your video is right on time and I am going to use some of your suggestions. Thanks for not talking down to us newbies.
Awesome! And thanks for subbing.
Everyone assumes dell psu are a ticking time bomb but they are more reliable than most psu
Its reliability isn't an issue here (which more than likely is shit), it hasn't got proper specs for the components he put in the system is.
@@madfinntech Once again, you're objectively wrong. I've torture tested these. They're reliable. They're Hi Pro units, that are average. So, they're not stellar, but they're not shit. Also, as I've said, the 1060 consumes 120 measly watts and the OptiPlex consumes less than 100 watts. Total, this system is consuming just above 200 watts at full load. It has 70-80 watts of headroom with this hardware.
I've already tested these units and that 290 watts is a constant rating. The reason nVidia recommends a 400 watt PSU is because they know that a lot garbage PSU's are rated at their peak rating. It's to make sure their customers are covered if they buy a crap PSU. So, that way, it's constant wattage is, at least closer, 300 watts... same as this OptiPlex.
I mean, this literally reminds me when people flipped out about the Great Wall power supply in the Wal Mart overpower system. They all said it would burn your house down. I'm sure there were a number of them with a higher end PSU making that comment, not knowing their PSU is a Great Wall unit. They make the Corsair SF series, for example. Then Gamers Nexus tested it and found it was an average power supply, not the pile of crap everyone made it out to be.
Yes, a lot of pre-built PSU's tend to be utter shit. However, not all of them are. Especially when you move up to the business machines, like these. As someone who's worked as a field engineer for HP, I can tell you that with the cost of service that comes with those machines, it doesn't pay for them to cut corners.
Yeah, I get it now. There's a vast difference to "rated" and what the device can push at a constant level reliably. Like with speakers, there's rated marketing stuff and then real consistent output that's measured.
@@TheGameBench my oem pc is slower than this pc but has a delta 300 watt psu that is also 80+ bronze. I have used phenom 955 125w and gtx 650 Asus dcu 120 w and it is working fine for 2 years now
What would you recommend for someone who only wants to make a 4k home theater pc?
9020 SFF with a cheap low-profile graphics card that can handle 4K. It won't take up much space, and you can fit a 3.5" drive in it. Though the GPU isn't absolutely necessary.
If you want REALLY small, get an i7 9020 USFF, use an mSATA SSD (mSATA, NOT M.2 or NVME) for the OS, and put a 4TB 2.5" drive in it for content. I have an i5 9020 USFF with an 860 EVO mSATA in it I'm getting ready to use as a basic desktop, but more than one person has used the i7 version for an HTPC.
I would avoid the 9020 Micro, though, as the CPU may not be enough, and it is harder to work on than even the USFF version.
www.avforums.com/threads/high-end-i7-4k-htpc-dell-optiplex-9020-usff-bluray-drive.2005743/
www.google.com/search?client=-b-1-d&q=Optiplex+9020+USFF+HTPC
I love that i am not the only one into Dell Optiplex although you do a much nicer job than me. Been doing this long before anybody paid any attention to them. I learned a lot of new tricks from you and really appreciate the hobby. I am running a 7010 with the i5. Love it
I'm subscribing to your video not only because the Universal unconscious/plate of shrimp issue (co-worker I built a machine from spares for has a son and daughter wanting PCs too, and they have little money- right at the same time your videos were recommended to me) but because I've parsed through these comments and I've seen just how fucking much you've been helping and messaging random people and newbies for help. The fact you would still take the time to respond to even the smallest little questions like those deserves more than just a subscription to me. Thanks, Game Bench.
Also the fuckin' Master system back there is fire. I really hope to pick up a broken one soon and mod it into a PC case that looks like it came out of Neuromancer.
UA-cam algorithm bought me here, and I am glad that it did.
I love OptiPlex MT systems for this reason, buy one cheap and throw in some hardware and you have a decent system on the cheap.
came here from ReviewtechUSA
it was so funny of how this guy got exposed
Jonathan2844 wait how did he get exposed I used to watch him but I don’t anymore
@@blteo8530 Basically Rich had an issue with not replacing the power supply. I personally would order a new PSU myself, but I trust the guy has done his testing and wouldn't put this system or anyone else's at risk.
thanx the game bench for ur knowledge always look forward to watching ur videos
Thanks! I really appreciate that.
Wow I was pretty sure you were at least 100k+ subs :o quality content here!
I put an RX 570 in my i7-4770 Optiplex 9020mt. I discovered it is physically impossible to put a GPU wider than 43mm (2.2 slot width), because it won't fit between sata1 and the ram. 43mm only fits if you shave the front panel plug down at the top where the GPU is. Used your tutorial video to take out the hdd bay.
Yeah, anything wider than the two slots, will have trouble with those SATA ports. There are some low profile SATA cables that should work as well.
@@TheGameBench low profile sata won't help, because you're still right up against the front panel plug.
@@jeremebp Oh yeah... easily solved with this:
www.moddiy.com/products/USB-3.0-20-Pin-Internal-Header-Adapter-Cable-Low-Profile-Connector.html
@@TheGameBench ok that's pretty cool, didn't know about that little kit. Thanks!
@@jeremebp No problem.
I got a optiplex 9020 for 125$ and i guess the seller messed up because instead of it coming with a i5 2400 it came with a i7 4790 and so i guess i got a steal
Damn! That's awesome, and yeah, it's one hell of a steal. You could put in a new PSU and toss a 1080 Ti in there and have a pretty high end 1440p gaming machine for about $600.
The Game Bench i put in a evga 400 watt psu with a 1050 ti oc with a 128gb ssd and a 1tb hdd
Damn dude
If u buy a optiplex pre installed with windows and replace the hard drive with a ssd would u have to reinstall windows?
@@ilianatamez5802 you snapped
Great video! Thank you for doing this.
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative. Appreciate the videos. Planning on doing a basic beginners build with my two oldest kids, 10 & 12.
Thanks, I really do appreciate you watching them. I'm glad you found it useful.
Great job! I have one question: I want to install in my Optiplex 9010 (i7 3770, 16GB RAM, SSD 128 GB and HDD 500GB) an Asus Geforce GTX 1650 4GB Phoenix Graphic card. Do I have to change stock power supply?
@@MrSamadolfo I don't understand. This GPU has no external power connector...
@@tomicxxl9134 😊 oh im sorry, yes your right, your talking about the regular nonsuper, yes its plug and play, you can use the oem power supply, just turn off computer, plug the video card in, plug the hdmi cable of monitor to the video card, and turn on the pc, boot into windows, download the invidia drivers and install it, then reboot, your done. Install Steam, instal video games, run the video game, on first launch it mite install addional goodies like C++ Visual Studio and whatnots, dont forget to install MSI Afterburner too 😎👍
No, you don't need to replace the PSU for what you want to do. That being said, I wouldn't bother with the regular 1650 unless you're finding them for a really good deal. When I was looking, they were about the same price as the 1650 Super, and there's a substantial difference in performance. Check to see if the Super is around the same price. You could also run the 1650 Super without changing out the PSU.
@@TheGameBench Many thanks!
@@tomicxxl9134 No problem.
Nice video, I am about to do this for grandson, this is very helpful Thank
Glad it was helpful!
If possible a PC build video of one of these enhanced Dell machines would be great to follow. Loving your Dell videos the effort is much appreciated
2:27 what made me hit like.
My super "ebay only" budget setup is a dell 7020 w/ i3 4160, gt 730 2gb, 16 gb ddr3 ram, 128 ssd/500gb hd all for $106 but i was very patient in getting deals on ebay
That's pretty cheap. GJ
Yeah, that's super cheap. What's great is that when you feel like you've outgrown that, you could easily upgrade to an i7.
A 660Ti or a 7850 is 30USD as well, way better deal
@@Lothairecliquennois Yeah, the 730 isn't great, by any stretch, but when you look at the fact that the system came to $106 all in... that's not a bad price with 16GB of RAM and an SSD.
I managed to build mine all in all for about $330. i took a chance and bought a refurb from ebay just because of my lack of tech skills. i paid $159 for my 9020 that came with a 1 TB HDD 16 gigs of 1600mhz ram, windows 10 installed, a 80+ bronze psu, and an I5 4590. I found a used PNY 1060 6 gig for $140 and grabbed a 240 gig ssd for the boot drive for $30 and its working like a charm.
Considering what you got, I'd say you got a decent deal. If I added 16GB and a decent 80+ bronze PSU, I'd be at about the same price with this one, and it would still have a 500GB drive instead of a 1TB.
I really appreciate your video. I was given a 3020 SFF and a 390. I gutted the 390 case and put the 3020 guts in it. It works great. I had a 550 watt ps laying around so I am using it. Your videos helped so much. Thanks!!!
I was about to say, SFF...
That's awesome! The 3020 SFF is a prime candidate to swap and a huge improvement over a 390. Glad I could help.
Awesome video again man! I've built dozens of PCs and never knew about that easy sata power cable mod! Would you be interested in doing a tour of your gaming area there? Would love to know what consoles and games are you favorite :)
Thanks! I did a game room tour years ago. I wouldn't be opposed to doing another one again at some point.
GB: consider taking the SATA mod portion of this video and upload again as a separate video? It's very, very useful!
With that Power Supply, This build is a ticking timebomb! The minimum recommended watt for that GPU is 400watts, and I bet ya it was under such stress during those tests. No wonder he bought an extra ("useless") fan xD
The GPU uses 120W not 400w this build will barley pull out 300w
@@ShadowOfNexxus
Boi.
www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1060/specifications
ReviewDankUsa explains it best:
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@@sotv_3525 What Rich and you fail to realize is that they put that minimum as a safe measure to cover themselves. I do agree about never skimping on the power supply but I highly doubt this build would use 400w. Especially since it's only a i5 and not a i7.
Yes... exactly. People keep throwing around wattage numbers, not realizing that some power supplies have a wattage rating that is their PEAK rating, and that they can only supply around 250 to 300 watts continuously. This is why nVidia says, 400 watts as a minimum. To account for low end PSU's. I've torture tested this PSU and it can supply a constant 290 watts.
That being said, the system is pulling around 210 watts from the PSU, leaving you with a 70-80 watt overhead. It's fine and just as good as using a 400 watt PSU that only can supply a 300 watt constant.
Just followed your vids for my optiplex 3010 and cant thank you enough. I did the same for the front fan, went with a 140mm white led but I test fit it, traced the diameter of the fan and cut out all the metal in front of it for more air flow.
You were so helpful thanks!!
No problem! Thanks for watching!
"Quite a few consoles"
*Has all of them*
1 new sub from me Rich of ReviewPICKusa really p*ssed me off over this one, although I would prefer to replace the psu I saw nothing wrong with what you was using to pick so much on your video, 8gb is still just fine, an i5 is not the greatest in 2020 but still for a budget machine it gets then job done, I think anyone building a cheap build like this is not expecting the highest resolutions and ultra settings, the cpu in xbox and ps4 is 8 core but really really p*ss poor cores,
for a small youtube channel great job! some constructive advise is always welcome by people to enable them to grow and improve but mindless bashing helps no one except those struggling to find new good content to put out.
Thanks! I really appreciate the support. Yeah, this was totally intended to be a someone's introduction to PC's, and for the money I'd say it performs above expectations. And I'm going to follow this up with something the consoles can't do... upgrade the power supply, an i7, more RAM and a high end GPU. Even thinking about doing an even cheaper build to go after the base models.
watched several of your videos and your's are hella helpful... just watch kids!!!!
Where did you plug the front fan? Very good and educating videos btw
Thanks, sorry it wasn't very clear. I used a SATA to 4-pin fan adapter and added a SATA connector to the factory harness with a SATA EZ crimp connector. Then I used a fan resistor cable to slow the fan down.
I'm working on a case transplant on a Dell Optiplex 9020. I'm kind of amazed you didn't replace the PSU.
What are you doing about the front panel?
@@jeremebp - I kind of Frankensteined the Dell front I/O panel into a 5.25 drive bay adapter (it's not pretty).. the power switch I jumpered pins 3 & ,4 and put the case power on 1 & 2. No reset or led. Case front panel USB 3.0 imnto a USB 3.0 hub with the Dell front panel USB 3.0.
@@mikemurley8656 Nice. I knew it could be hacked together like you did, or just left hanging out inside, but it seems like too much trouble for not enough gain. I kinda like the way the optiplex looks. I might have been bothered if heat build up with my GPU was an issue, but even with just the stock exhaust fan everything is staying nice and cool. We'll see what happens in the summer.
@@jeremebp - I needed a project. 😁
No need to replace it. That's why I went with the 1060. It's about the limit for this PSU as well as the 4th Gen i5. The idea was to come in at around $300 and I couldn't have done that replacing the PSU. Granted, if you wanted to go with anything more than a 560 on the AMD side, it wouldn't be an option.
And yeah, the power switch and power LED are easy to deal with on the case swap. The USB2 ports, and the HD audio are a little different. Thankfully the USB3 ports are standard.
Build tutorial please.
I guess I'll have to add that to my video list.
I would watch it, but there are already many other good build tutorials out there now. I think GB should do something that he can add his own slant to.
I like the tight shots nice editing as well enjoyed your video
Thanks for the positive feedback and thanks for watching!
😃 yup We Like Tight! 😊 LOL
Man your videos are good. THANKS for the tips. I was always intimidated by the hardware until I started getting into mame arcades. I am an old school gamer.
Glad I could help! I'm an old school as well. I really need to take the time to set up MAME on one of my machines. I heard the new version of launchbox is much better with compatibility. Should be much easier to set up.
@@TheGameBench launch box is pretty good for creating clean rom lists. I condensed 16 gigs down to a nice clean 2 gigs after filtering out the fruit games etc.
i have optiplex 9010 with xeon 1225 v2, 12gm ram, 460 watt coolermaster supply, 120 gb ssd, 1tb hdd, gigabyte rx 580 card
It's pretty close to the i5 3470, but it has two more MB of cache.
@Jason Packer pretty good actually most of the games are running around 60fps
@@TheGameBench yes.. i got the pc and all the mentioned parts except the card in 116$ or less and the rx 580 8gb card i got in 155$.
@Jason Packer yes what i found out that when it comes to gaming we dont really need high end specs.. even a mid range pc can give us the satisfiction.
almost the same here i have a xeon e3-1220 v2 cpu in a dell 3010 with 16 gb 1333mhz dual channel and a dell branded rare r9 360 2gb gpu. basically a r7 360 with lower a few less shaders and lower tdp. i might get a gtx 1650 later on but the xeon 1220 and the r9 360 aint too bad at all running COD MW or BFV on med at 1080p at 55-60 fps. shadow of the tomb raider though....it hates my setup....30fps if im lucky at 1080p.
Looks like you overlooked the wattage requirements of the gpu. That Dell stock 280-300w psu could cause system instabilities. That gpu has a maximum power requirement of 120w. So you should be using at least a 400w psu.. Not to mention the stock psu is probably not 80 Plus certified.
Since I'm tired of repeating myself, I'm going to copy and paste.
"People keep throwing around wattage numbers, not realizing that some power supplies have a wattage rating that is their PEAK rating, and that they can only supply around 250 to 300 watts continuously. This is why nVidia says, 400 watts as a minimum. To account for low end PSU's. I've torture tested this PSU and it can supply a constant 290 watts.
That being said, the system is pulling around 210 watts from the PSU, leaving you with a 70-80 watt overhead. It's fine and just as good as using a 400 watt PSU that only can supply a 300 watt constant."
@@TheGameBench says this, as he uses a cheap OEM psu.....
@@Cyrus_Nagisa Not all OEM PSU's are bad. There are quite a few that a lot better than a lot of the cheap PSU's I see people putting in their builds. I'll bet you were the kind of person that said this same crap about the Great Wall OEM unit in the Wal Mart Overpower systems. All the while, there are people running high end PSU's in their rigs made by Great Wall. Then Steve over at Gamers Nexus tested it and found it wasn't the dumpster fire everyone was making it out to be.
@@TheGameBench the reason your having to copy and paste it is because your wrong and you need a psu that can handle a 1060
@@Silvyya Read the pinned comment if you'd like to know why you're objectively wrong.
Great videos, about to start working on an OptiPlex 990 (i7-2600) for a friend. One question I had is why you didn't upgrade the PSU? I'm hoping to simply replace/upgrade the PSU on the 990 to a 400W+ any potential issues I may be unaware of? You're kind of an expert on upgrading these Dells man. Love the series/videos!
Thanks! Yeah, I didn't replace the power supply because it's not really necessary with the 290 watt unit in the xx20 series with something like the 1060. The total system power draw, from the outlet, with the 1060 6GB was around 200 watts. With the 990, you've got a 265 watt PSU and with something like the 1060, you'd still be fine, but if you wanted to run a 1070, or better, or a 570 or better, you'd want to replace the power supply.
@@TheGameBench Got a 470 on the way, so going to upgrade the PSU. Also going to add the front fan. Excited to put this thing together, will rewatch all your videos on the series a few times :)
well said. well written. Subscribed
Thanks! I appreciate it.
I just bought 8 optiplex desktops if you want one for a future build.
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I appreciate that, but I've got a few here. If I need to buy some more anytime soon, I'll hit you up.
What kind model optiplex and how much?
Texas Tech Optiplex 9020 and I think 980 I’ll check when I get home! I’m open to offers!
Yo how much could I buy one off of you?
You kinda look like Zane frome Borderlands 3
Hmm.... all I need to do is grow out my chops and a mustache.
😃👍 omgawd your rite!
No he looks like Yondu from Guardians Of The Galaxy.
thankyou for posting these videos i know u wont see this but u have helped so much
Actually, I read every comment... and it's comments like yours that makes me enjoy making these videos.
Great video Clint
Thanks! I'll have to get another build video done soon.
I just saw this on ReviewTechUSA. Are you going to respond?
The Slice Factor doesn’t look like it lol
Go back and leave this guy alone.
To what end? There are a lot of misinformed people responding some being rather aggressive. A response will only rile people up even more. All I can really do is explain myself as people comment.
@@TheGameBench some have been needlessly aggressive, it's the internet, it's going to happen. But many have voiced their concerns with your choice of using the stock PSU. It's a legit concern, and you brush it off with some "not all psus are equal" bull, while using a 300w stock PSU that was made as cheaply as it could. If it was a cheap bronze certified 300w I would be a good bit more understanding, even more so with a 400.
@@Cyrus_Nagisa Yeah, I get that, but Rich didn't have to be so aggressive in his video either. As for the power supply. I've more than explained that. It's functionally fine with the 1060. I'm objectively correct. People who have more than surface level understanding about power supplies knows this. Besides, it's not like I'm trying to convince people NOT to get a better PSU. By all means, if it's your budget, it would be the first thing I did after adding an extra 8GB of RAM for like $15.
The point of this video was to get someone into PC gaming that didn't think it was an option over a console, and with this hardware, the stock PSU will work perfectly fine. The problem is that because it's a pre-built, you assume it has a crappy power supply, and that's not the case.
So reading through the old comments, no one says anything about the power supply wattage. Weeks later, Rich ReviewTechUSA puts up a bully video and the comments here are flooded with people acting like they know something about PC building. Great vid The Game Bench
Well, why that might be? You think anybody knew this video existed without him? And those people who need a guide like this don't know any better. They don't know to criticize the fact he didn't upgrade the power supply!
@@madfinntech Read the pinned comment. All the people bitching about the power supply have a very basic understanding of why that recommendation exists and power supplies in general. The kind of people that think the 80+ rating is a quality metric, or that power supply wattage ratings are the same. Not all 400 watt PSU's are created equal. Also, this video had over 20,000 views before Rich made his video.
Great video thanks man :)
Thanks for watching it!
Loving the content. Could you do more builds with other desktops? Maybe older Gateway computers or even older workstations? Thanks again.
Depends how old, look up LGR, he foucses on 90's and early 2000's prebuilts, and other fun things too.
LGR is awesome. The 8-Bit Guy is excellent as well. I have older DOS systems and that's where I got started in PC's. I would love to to some videos on older stuff every now and again, but I don't have anything planned in the near future. I am planning on comparing the HP 600/800 with the Opti's though.
😃 i have a Gateway Laptop in my collection
Oh no you just got put on blast by RieviewTechUSA
PlebMike I mean Rich isn’t wrong
@@freshyeet4144 230w power draw at most, 300w power supply.
Thats more overhead than a xbox one or xbox one X
@@freshyeet4144 Oh I know it was cringe worthy
nVidia website calls for a 400W min. the Dell is a 290W. Overall this is a good build guide, but Rich is 100% correct.
The LAST thing to skimp on for a PC is the PSU.
The reason that nVidia says you should use a 400 watt PSU at minimum is to account for shitty PSU's that are rated in PEAK wattage. So, for example, a 300 watt PSU that can only supply a constant wattage of 200 watts. The 290 watt PSU in this system can supply a constant wattage of 290 watts. I've tortured tested them with a constant draw of 290 watts for hours. The total system power draw is around 210 watts, giving you an overhead of 70-80 watts. That's enough and doesn't put you in danger of damaging the equipment or causing premature power supply failure. I've fully tested everything and it's fine. The power supply in these is just as good, if not better, being able to supply a constant 290 watts as a 400 watt power supply that can only maintain around 290 watts, or less.
I mean my pc I got everything off fb i7 3770 32 gigs of ram corsair 750m and a 1070 for 300 just didn't have a hdd if you're going for a pc like this always check sites like fb theres hidden gems at times
Curtis Hoover that’s a good deal I got something similar a few months ago i7 4770 32gb ram 250gb ssd for only €290 added a rtx 2060 super and runs a plays games with ray tracing 1440p and 4K 60 FPS not bad for a 6yr old pc would recommend the old i7s still pretty powerful even today
@@adammolloy6492 oh yeah dude I love my pc even tho I am upgrading to a ryzen 7 2700x just to future proof. My girls pregnant with my second kid so my money is about to be nonexistent 😂🤣😂
@@callmetoke6075 congrats
I got started in building my own desktop PCs with the Dell Optiplex 780 which I upgraded with an SSD, a quad CPU, RAM and a 2gb videocard. After that, it was an amazing machine. I also replaced the CMOS battery. My next DO was the 990 with the I7-2600. My 990 was $134 shipped. It was a plug and play SFF pc. The following week the same PC was over $150 from the same seller.
Great OptiPlex series, informative, detailed, interesting and to the point. Worth the subscribe. I have a 9020 with an intel i7-4770 and I'm really looking forward to upgrade a pc for the first time but as I'm getting excited I was wondering if this setup can be brought up to play Half Life: Alyx? do I need a better CPU? or should alltogether get a better motherboard?
Thanks for the sub! Yeah, the 4770 will be fine for Half Life: Alyx. Just need to get enough GPU.
I came here from Rich's video and dude I think you should make a reply video toward ReviewtechUSA. Not to start any drama, but to explain the PSU issue like you did in your pinned comment and respectfully ask that he contact you or others before making "exposed" videos. He's done this kinda stuff before and I think if you let it slide he'll just do it again to another small channel and they'll get harassed like you are being. Just my 2 cents, keep up the good vids.
I really appreciate that, and I have gone over this, in my head, several times since yesterday. I've got rebuttals for pretty much everything he complained about it that video, but I can't help but feel like I would only be adding fuel to the fire. Wouldn't matter how well put my response was, how objectively correct I was, confirmation bias will validate the people's opinion that have been dropping comments. I only have a little over 3,000 subs, and thus no credibility. It wouldn't stop it from happening again. A response would have to some from someone much larger than me to have any impact.
That being said, I do want to make an in depth video, at some point, about power supplies and why the people focusing on that don't understand the reason for nVidia's recommendation and have very surface level understanding of power supplies. It's relevant information, regardless. I just feel like I need to hold off on making that video. Mostly so I can do more research into power supplies, so I can have an in depth knowledge of ripple. That way I can explain to people, why 80+ and wattage ratings can be very deceiving, and what to looks for when picking a power supply.
Anyhow, I'm rambling. Thanks for the support. I can't tell you how much it means after this weekend.
PC has always been the smart choice. always.
Not with this build consoles will always be cheaper. This guy proved it. Theirs an reason why casuals pick consoles over pc. This is one of them.
@@TheAazah Casuals? Or people who actually value their money. I've been gaming my whole life. 95% on console. Superior exclusives, less messing around with settings, no compatability issues, and let's be honest, the games look great given how weak the current gen are. God of War defied belief at times. With PS5 coming, their is literally no reason for PC gaming, except for playing RTS, like command and conquer.
That depends. One could say consoles had at some point lots of great games that weren't available on PC.
Awesome stuff, I didn't know how easy it was to change around the SATA connections!
Oh yeah, those EX crimp SATA connections make it a piece of cake.
Excellent video !
Thanks!
Fuck the elitist haters that cannot do actual math, or research. A 1060 will only pull 125w at PEAK torture tests loads. No game will ever do this. I've run >TWO< 1060's off of an EVGA 400w, with a 750w Corsair running FOUR more, and the rest of the system, back in the mining days. No gaming will EVER load them like that did. And i did it 24/7 for WELL over a year. Great vid :)
Thanks. It's unfortunate how much ignorance there is floating around about this. Sadly, there's just as much confirmation bias. I'm glad that at least some people have had an open mind and were willing to admit they were wrong.
@@TheGameBench Cheers :D
2:30 lmao
I'm doing this with a Dell XE2 midtower I got for free. Came with a OEM 396Watt PSU! Surprisingly this PSU also has one 6 pin connecter that isn't being utilized. Was planning on putting in a GTX 1650 in it because of power requirements, but seeing you go bigger on GPU was really helpful. Thanks and subbed.
Thanks! Those XE2's can go for quite a bit more, just for that reason. They were mostly used for POS systems and used power USB cards for the registers. Not too many of them on the second hand market. But that PSU would be fine with something like a 1080 with a 6-pin to 8-pin adapter. You could easily run something like an RX 6600, or 6600 XT on that.
This video has helped me decide which route I wanna go with my first gaming PC. I have a Mac I edit videos and work on, just want a cpu for gaming COD Warzone and Fortnite.
Im thinking about getting a 9020 with i7 with 8-16gb ram for around $180-$200, hoping to get one with one stick so I can add more. Gonna add GTX 1060, Fan, and 250 or 500gb ssd.
I have seen some 9020s that are cheaper without a hard drive but worry that they may have problems or may have not been properly tested before re-sale?
Im really just looking for an affordable pc to play Warzone on that also has good quality. 👌
Pretty much seems like upgrading an old Dell is the best bang for my buck IMO at this point.
Please let me know if you would suggest any different options...
Thanks good video!
Is this gaming pc good? It costs 1200$
Intel® Core™ i7-9700-processor
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super, 8 GB
16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD
It's good. Decent entry level 1440p or a good high refresh 1080p rig... so long as you're not trying to run ray tracing. I'm not sure where you're located, but that price would be a little high here in the U.S. But it's a capable gaming PC regardless.
ummmmm.........using ANY type higher end component, like the GPU you have, you really shouldnt use the stock PSU.
that GPU needs at least a 400w PSU
and that CPU is more than likely struggling and becoming a bottleneck
I agree, however he has one VERY big problem: the motherboard doesn't use a standard power connector. A different video card is advised. It doesn't have to be a major drop, even down to a GTX 1050. Dell clearly did not design that particular Optiplex to be a gaming rig.
I'm getting tired of repeating myself, so I'll copy and paste.
"People keep throwing around wattage numbers, not realizing that some power supplies have a wattage rating that is their PEAK rating, and that they can only supply around 250 to 300 watts continuously. This is why nVidia says, 400 watts as a minimum. To account for low end PSU's. I've torture tested this PSU and it can supply a constant 290 watts.
That being said, the system is pulling around 210 watts from the PSU, leaving you with a 70-80 watt overhead. It's fine and just as good as using a 400 watt PSU that only can supply a 300 watt constant."
@@holman182 What you're referring to is BTX, and there are 24-pin to 8-pin adapters to put a standard PSU in these. That being said, read my other response as to why it's fine.
@@TheGameBench I suppose my only real cause for concern is voltages on the 12v rail. So long as the voltages are ok, then definitely, the PSU should be fine.
@@holman182 I mean, the amperage on the 12v rails isn't spectacular, but adequate. However, it might be worth taking some time to put a multi-meter on it to monitor the how steady the voltages are.
I followed your advice and went Dell Optiplex 9020 i5 32gig ram Nividia Geforce GTX 1060 powered with 700W Thermaltake Smart Series 80 plus.
I used a Hammer and Flat screw driver to get the cage out though.
The Thermaltake power supply had most of everything you need except you will need an adapter 24pin to 8 pin.
Thing is a beast and this is my first computer build .
I haven't installed the front fan yet but the new power supply has a bunch of 4 pin fan plugs that will make it easy for me to get creative with some fan ideas. Thank you for your videos as they were a great reference.
great video helps a lot .....btw did u use the power supply that came with the optiplex or did u use another ?
I used the 290 watt power supply that came with the Optiplex. I actually did a video before this testing various GPU's with the i5 and the stock power supply to see what was safe to run.
@@TheGameBench yea i was going to build the same but the gpu which i had my eye on was the rx 580 but now i know the 1060 only needs like 190 watts .....i tot it was like the 580 ......thank you very much ur videos are very clear ... i am glad that i found ur channel
You got exposed shaggy
You just got exposed by Rich of ReviewtechUSA lol
Yep, I'm aware. I did my testing and I know what I did is sound.
@@TheGameBench With a OEM power supply for that 1060. No way you thought that was sound. Thats a set up for a potential failure down the road.
@@TheOctMandalorian 230w power draw from a 300w power supply.. so its actually only drawing about 205-210w
@@TheGameBench You went about the project with the right idea and gave lots of good advice on the build (Rich even says he liked how you went about most of the cable management as an example). but the cable modification you made was unnecessary & non-experienced folks should never give that a try & the power supply in this guy is vastly underpowered to run the 1060 inside it. Because of that, this puppy is a ticking time clock that could easily end up frying, and you should've spent that little extra to get a proper power supply inside that does properly support the 1060. I get the idea was to get the build under 300 USD, but if the build was around 325 or 350 instead, you still would've done well in regards to views.
Rich isn't trying to hate on your video or make you look bad, he's just trying to help those who will look at your video and then try to create this build while helping you get better so you can produce better videos in the future & you won't make mistakes like these, as a lot of the viewership you're going to get on this content will be those just getting into PC building.
no real need for this kind of comment, Rich even said not to do this.... damn you people dont listen
Hey great video, just wondering are you gonna post a video of you building it soon? (The full process)
This is actually the last video in a five part series starting with the buyers guide, then the HDD cage removal, then the fan modification, then GPU buyers guide, then this video. I didn't want to do it all in one video as it would have been a really long video.
@@TheGameBench oh ok I understand thanks
@@osi64 No problem.
Great tips. Thank you.
Sure, no problem. Thanks for watching.
If you are thinking about doing this, DO NOT KEEP THE POWER SUPPLY INSIDE. The one this guy uses can't handle the 1660 TI. It will likely catch on fire anyway. Calculate how much power your PC comments will draw, and buy a PSU with at least 50 watts of headroom. You can get a PSU with even more spare watts in case you want to upgrade in the future. A good PSU should last you over 5 years, so you'd likely upgrade your GPU and CPU before you upgrade a PSU
I didn't use a 1660 Ti, I used a 1060. I've tested the power draw and this 290 watt unit can maintain a sustained 290 watts. The system pulls about 210 leaving about a 70-80 watt headroom. So, by your own measure there... it's more than fine.
Great video mate. Very direct and informative. Subscribed.
If I may ask, do you think I’ll be able to use a different ram other than one installed on the Optiplex? For example, my 9040 have a 1 stick 8gb ddr4 2166. I have 2x sticks of 8gb ddr4 but its 2400mhz.
Thanks! Well... these are pretty picky about RAM. Looks like you're limited to 2133MHz on the RAM. So, you can try it. Worst case scenario, it's unstable and/or crashes, or fails to give a video signal or boot. Nest case, it works fine, but will only run at 2133 instead of 2400, which isn't a problem.
@@TheGameBench Thanks heaps... I'll take the latter :)
This is amazing your the best keep it up
Thank you so much!
@@TheGameBench you to
Great timing. My video card came in the mail today and I had just put mine together before watching this. Im glad you mentioned the paste too. I saw another video talk about it but it was the only one, so I was kinda on the fence about it. You mentioning it is going to actually make me do it. My ssd is still in the mail so I will be diving back into it. I like how you didn't bother with added ram either. All the 8gb vs 16gb comparison videos I watched showed that it wasn't really needed, at least for gaming with this setup. I do my gaming on a console so the main reason I did the build was for watching 4k movie files. My xbox one s has a hard time playing them smoothly, some would barely play at all. I watch all my "tv" content from a pc which only does 4k @ 30hz and it was needing a upgrade. I picked up a clean stock 7020 with win10 installed for $111 about a week ago (it took a last second snipe bid at 3am but I got it), a gigabyte 1050ti for $80, and a 128gb ssd for $19. So Im into mine for $210. It would have been about $17 cheaper if ebay didnt start adding tax to everything not to long ago. I do still need to get some paste and a fan adapter so I might spend another $5-10.
I actually always put 16GB in these since it's so cheap and really helps sell them. However, I tell people all the time that you're typically fine with 8GB, but it's quickly becoming the minimum. There are games that are starting to use more than 8GB. But I hear ya'... so many people talking like you can't play games at all with anything less than 16GB when most people are playing with 8GB. It's the typical elitist attitude.
😆Love the eighties style music for the final product reveal!😆
Thanks for the video. I bought an 7010i with a i5 3.6g for $40 in December. Last week I bought a 4gb GTX 1050ti and some ram. I can now play fortnite on epic with 1080 resolution. Have a cheap dell se2717hr that max at 60hz. My average frame rate is in the mid 40s but the picture quality over my ps4 pro is outstanding. I’m really blown away on my $260 build. I bought my pc at government surplus. Thanks for the video.
Hi there. New sub here too. Great vids and writing. I would really love to see a vid about changing the psu, since that’s the most complex thing on these things.
Hey! Get out of my head! Funny enough, I'm actually working on an OptiPlex PSU upgrade guide right now.
The Game Bench that’s great to know! There’s also a Dell 360w psu but it’s not cheap nor very available. Will be waiting...
this man has sections in the video like a fricking essay in school not hating but that is some good effort
Yeah... I am pretty detail oriented.