The First 8 Things You Should Change When Buying a Harley Davidson
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
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When you buy your first Harley Davidson there are 1000's of possible modifications available to you. And while you may want to do all of them there are a few that stick out to us as more important to do than others. Here are our top 8....er 10 mods to do when you get your first Harley Davidson.
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Remember that every dollar spent on accessories adds absolutely ZERO VALUE to your Motorcycle
Facebook market place begs to differ. 😂
@@Unjustified_Bot LMFAO Right 👍
Enjoyment in one's work is worth more than any amount of money.
Exhaust, between 500-1200.
Air cleaner intake - 100-200
Carb or Tuner - 100-300
Suspension - 200-500+ depending on what you do
Bars - 100-300 depending on bars (plus cables you might need)
Lighting - 150ish
Seat - 300-500+
Fairing - 100-500+
Brakes - 150 (rotor & pads) plus whatever calipers can get expensive
Cams - 300+
Easy to recommend mods but money doesn’t grow on trees lol, easy to spend 3-5 grand on all these upgrades plus labor if you need someone to do the work for you.
Damn buddy, these look like pre-Biden numbers. Biden bucks don’t go nearly as far!!
You hit on the head, if you just got a new bike now you going to add another ton of money to a bike.
You're a bit light on tuners. Most I've seen are in the $400+ range.
Exhaust $1900
Air cleaner intake - $600
Bars - $700 includes grips and levers.
Lighting - $1500
Seat - $300
Footboards $2300 includes shift levers, brake lever, pegs and brake foot lever.
Cam cover and derby cover $750
Fork lowers and guards $1300
Engine guard $350
Misc black parts $600
@@mark-1234 I mean this comment was two years ago and I was on the cheaper side of things just to prove a point. Lol
Wow, been reading all the complaints even from Harley owners, and here is my two cents worth, I'm 62, rode dirt bikes as a teenager only, 3 years ago acquired (thats free) a 2007 Honda shadow, got my license rode 15 thousand miles 2 seasons, upgraded last October to a 2016 Street Glide Special, my wish list is about 4 grand with most of the 8 listed, I started with the most important things first, for me safety, extended brake pedal for my size 13 boots, the rest will come in time, without preventing me from riding. So here is the point, I knew what I was getting into and the on going costs associated with it, I could have just as easily bought a brand new Honda Gold Wing for the same money and like the Shadow drove it trouble free till.....ever. Owning a motorcycle is a personal thing, doesn't matter the brand, he will always change, adjust or add, to help make him one with the road, thats why we ride! To me it's a Harley!
That's right. There's really almost no upgrades for a Goldwing or a BMW r18, because they already have great brakes, great power, great handling, great seats, etc... But where's the fun in that? They are too quiet though and a Goldwing would be more fun with a supercharger. But they still wouldn't have the street cred or p***y magnate power of a Harley. Wanna ride alone, fine, get a Goldwing. Wanna have a smokin hot Chola Mamacita on the back? Harley's the only way... Unless I could get my hands on the first real bike I ever rode, a 65 Cushman Eagle & modify that with a "Softail" rear suspension, S&S two litre engine, & taller front wheel with a proper springer front suspension. That would be a good made in USA substitute for a Harley.
I like HD motorcycle a lot. So, I went to visit a local HD dealership and they wanted to charge me a lot over MSRP. So, I eventually bought a 1/12 scale model and I have become a happy owner now ever since.
Sales Manager: "We solve problems you didn't know you had, in ways you don't understand!"
😂
Owning a harley is already a problem itself.😂
I’ve literally did all of those plus the bonus items.
Again none of it is a must. Harley makes a great bike but they leave a lot of room for improvement, and to get the most out of it and have the best riding experience... handle bars you like, a good seat, and at least a great headlight are a minimum in my book.
Exhaust, intake, and cam. My top 3, we all have our own priorities.
I’m a fan and customer of J&P but none of these things NEED to be done to a Harley. They ride just fine in stock form. Having said that it is one of my biggest issues with HD in recent years. I’ve bought other brands over HD several times precisely because I can get equal quality, all LED lighting, premium suspension and brakes, better performance, and more technology like traction control and Cruise control for 70% of the price.
Always good stuff on this channel. Thanks!
I never knew there were so many things wrong with my bike till I saw this video. I thought it was great.
Happy New Year and thank you!
So, to summarize keep the ignition switch on your bike and change everything else around it. Got it!
Basically.
The first 80 things to change on your Hardley Ableson.
Well they do make ignition switch alternatives too. They’re popular on Sportsters these days. 😁
Or buy a bmw and a windbreaker to match all your buddies pulling up to the gay bar.
😂
Well I’m almost done on that list. 👍🏻
first thing you should do is research the year model and find out what major HD fk up you need to fix for your engine model and year, because you WILL have at least one
Very well said. Those damn oil pumps are on there 5th redesign since 17.
Cam chain tensioner!!!!!
@@NoCommie dont forget the compensator lol
Great information! Subbed.
Add you can buy all these parts at J&P. Just bring thousands of dollars with you and leave them with us.
30K for a bike and another 15K to do upgrades lol just nuts but hey its your ride.
Never buy new. Let the first guy take that hit!
@@donsvideos1985 I thought I was the only one who thought like that. lol
@@TechnMoto especially when it comes to Used Harleys. Lots of low mileage garage queen's out there 😎
I've never bought a brand new bike but rather have bought an HD with low miles, no damage, plus all or most of these 8 mods. Show up with cash and negotiate a great price. But if you got the finances buy it new and add whatever fits your style. Either way ride the skid! Kudos to J&P for the suggestions.
Great video did all that on my 2018 street glide special but rear shocks that's next especially since I had to buy new back tire and changed out oil pump but glad I now have 2020 oil pump in .
Yep 100% on all of it!
Don't need a whole exhaust, just put good slip ons all you need,but your right about suspension
Years ago a salesman from J & P told me about the Vance & Hines quite series. I went to Dennis Kirk because they were a $100.00 cheaper. Great Pipes.
Yep, some excellent suggestions. NB change seat before bars, as the seat can drastically can change ur riding position.
Brake light modulator for safety and highway pegs for the longer trips and even a driver backrest. Helmet with Cardo or Sena communication setup. I went with Cardo Packtalk Bold with JBL and a Cirro Phone mount. I am officially an old guy now... I just added heated grips! OMG awesome!
Great video! Love it.
I never owned a Harley and I was thinking about buying one until watching this.
you should point out the warranty issues when you use an aftermarket tuner..
Or just upgrade your shit the way you want, and when shit breaks fix it with better made parts, rather then letting dealerships molest your bike and reinstall the same oem parts that broke. It’s your bike not theirs do what you want with it.
Very good info, always something to do with the bike.
First thing I’d change is the bike itself!
got my Sport Glide for cruising. Slowly upgrading thing to my liking. Unfortunately living in CA, your limited on exhaust upgrades unless I do a runaround. If I want speed, I have my Triumph Street Triple for that.
These are still just options. There are aftermarket accessories for foreign bikes as well. I know many classic car owners that swapped out exhaust, shocks, cams on cars that were pretty cool too begin with. Harley haters need to simmer down. Just enjoy the ride.
Lol a stock Harley is cool... if your used to that! Once you ride or own a Harley with aftermarket Pipe, air cleaner, tuner, suspension, seat and bars... well if ya know ya know! And what would your bike be .. if ya didn't make it yours!?!
Harleys are great bikes after you modify them heavily.
When we watch BMW s1000rr video, we don't hear things like suspension is bad so you need to upgrade as soon as you buy them. Why? Because it is a premium bike that charges people premium price. Yamaha MT07 suspension is crap, but that is OK. Since it is cheap bike that cuts price by using cheap parts. HD isn't cheap bike. Why are we paying premium price and yet still get crap that needs upgrade right away? The guy in the vid said himself HD suspension needs upgrade. No. Suspension is not an option we can ignore!!! Stop making excuses for HD and start demand your money's worth.
Get a police model
Love it, buy a Harley and have to change everything
Good, concise info. Always enjoy JP presentations. Agree with 7 of 8. Before the seat, I'd change out the compensator. Darkhorse ManOwar or solid gear.
Good thing you didn't get the oil debate started.
Yeah no, the solid gear will blow up the factory transmission if you ride hard, go to a baker then that'll work
Spot on💯
Basically replace the whole bike with after market from J P cycle parts 🤣
Agree… Exhaust, Cam, Bars, Seat, LED, Custom Paint…so it doesn’t look like 1,000 other Harleys.
Why did you buy a HD ???
Righttttt??? Exactly, thank you!!!
Thanks from France 🇫🇷
Modifying a Harley is what keeps them interesting and unique.
Just like they say, you are unique....
Just like everybody else.
And expensive
Yes spending 30 to $50,000 to get 60 HP then spend another 10 on accessories. To be different just like everybody else with the Harley skull Derby cover and Davy Crockett leather tassels and Harley boots pants panties socks nipple rings shirt gloves hat and glasses. You know really set yourself aside from the crowd.
@@markallen4364 Right….” They all do that,you need an update kit “.
Well done 👍
Couldn't agree more! 🙌
Happy New year 🍾
I only changed the mufflers and seat on my LRS. The bike is perfect otherwise, at least to me. Could have used some snow tires on my 1k mile trip last week though.
Firestone used to make snow tires for Harleys my my uncle used to keep a shut mounted on Wheels hanging in the basement of my aunt's house in New York when it started just get six no he would just swap out the wheels today's Harley Rider wouldn't make a pimple on the ass of an old Harley Rider from the 50s
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 Yeah, I was joking bout snow tires. I don't intend to ride in the snow anymore. I froze my ass off. I'm from the South.
Don't forget about getting those dope Dixxon flannels!!
My first mod was crash bars, then adjustable break and clutch levers, than wider break pedal. Ergonomic first. Between mods, courses, the more the better.
Yes my FXLRST absolutely had to have a better rear brake linkage and mini floorboards instead of the pegs.
It's must be so nice to live in the wilderness.😊 I love it ❤.
I bought a 2007 FXDWGI a year ago. I find the comfort and power to be perfectly fine. I'm not thrilled with the headlight and the rear shocks may need to be replaced, but stock is just fine by me.
I have an 07 screaming eagle springer softail, the stock headlight is terrible I can barely see at night. What headlight do you recommend? I would like to keep the stock look I think.
My $21k Road Glide turned into a $30k Road Glide after my must haves. Wife asked “why get a Harley of you have to change everything?” I said “well I just can’t move to a Honda just yet” Want a Harley, ya gotta be prepared to change everything on the bike. It’s designed that way unfortunately.
My stock broker and Harley dealer both drive BMW M class to the country club. Wall Street bankers and Harleys are designed that way.
@@geneclarke2205 The stockbroker died with the internet nearly 25 years ago.
My $42K 2015 Road Glide CVO turned into a $60K+ CVO and still climbing, over the last 5 years and 119K miles.
I would say one of the biggest upgrades that could be done on a Harley is upgrading the crappy plastic fuel inlet elbow on the carburetor to a full brass one. Every Harley I have ever worked on leaks from that fitting.
Happy new year’s 🎉
As always: GOOD STUFF. Looks like sturgis location . Is J&P open year around there this year ? Last June I bought me place in sturgis. But I wimped on riding weather and S west I’m , Daytona then back sturgis.
Yes the Sturgis store is open year round now.
When I bought my 1st new Harley 1979FXEFB I paid $3875.00 now you can't get a Sportster for that. The cruisers are running 30K and up and that has been the beef on Harley's ever since I can remember and especially back when I bought my 79 Shovel $3700 to $4500 was a lot of money especially since the quality wasn't there. The newest bike I own is a 2001 FLH Standard did a lot of upgrades 95 inch, suspension, carb and exhaust, cams and handle Bars and I wouldn't hesitate to ride it coast to coast it hasn't failed me yet I have sat on the side of the road with guys on brand new bikes waiting on the tow to the nearest dealer.
I have a 21 Street-Bob…what aftermarket exhaust would you recommend and would I definitely need to tune it?
Agreed
Personally I wouldn’t bother with the intake pipes and tuner especially on a bagger as the $ to gain is not good . The suspension upgrades for me add more to the bike in terms of performance as the bike handles so much better and you can ride harder in comfort. Other than that getting the bike to fit you pegs, bars levers ,seat etc is just one of the joys of ownership and keeps me out of the wife’s feet.
Front and rear suspension is a big plus in comfort and increasing lean angle with proper spring rates. Cams, pipes, intake, made all the diff on my 2011 RK. Depending on the year, cams only may not be as significant of an improvement.
Engine guards front and back must be the very first modification. LED lights all around are a must. Love my Custom Dynamics turn lights.
The biggest bang for buck performance option upgrades on a H-D is a set of BST carbon wheels !!!
I’ll got those exact mini kuriakyn front ligths on my 2020 Sportster 48, and ever since I’ve got the light code on!
Light code?
So many people through a ton of money at performance they forget about stopping that performance.
Hello I have a 2009 harley fatboy softial and was wondering was thinking of going either with windsheild but really liked the looks of front fairing with radio and speakers . Looking for thoughts and ideas. It's my first harley . Thank you
Go with memphis shades road warrior and a plex audio system! That's what I have on my 20 fxlrs! So good!
Agree, Memphis Shades as multiple quick release fairing options. www.jpcycles.com/memphis-shades
for the prices they're asking this stuff should come stock
I have had two or three clutch cables break at the handle and one handle brake it's a good idea on old bikes to replace the cable it's no fun to drive with out a clutch and a little dangerious carry one for back up on long trips😐
How about a softail '05 injected '88' without O2 sensors? What tuner do I use?
Some of this depends on how old your buke is. My 96 road King was loud enough right from the factory.
if there is 8 things you should change right away on a premium motorcycle you should change brands
Hey, where can I get them small turn indicators?
I have a 2006 Harley Davidson Is electric glide standard , Carbureted, With cams and mufflers.
Hello I am a old guy and want to ride but think a trike might be best for old farts like me. what ya think and can ya talk about the good and bad about trikes?
New harley
- new seat
- new shocks
- new brakes
Wtfreak
Or, you could just get a bike designed to be ridden, something with a reliable modern motor that produces power efficiently, suspension and brakes that work, all the things that make a bike a bike.
The again, for those who don't really intend to ride a bike, the Harley is perfect for turning money into noise and accessorising those bad boy leahers.
So cool that you have to put $2000 in your $20000 bike. Thanks HD
1st thing is put a set of Progressive shocks, the sportster shocks are trash.
I think the 1st thing I would do is trade it for a Yamaha or kawasaki.
Love. It.
Mmmmmmmmm, money !
Yep a bone stock HD bagger has junk suspension, seat handlebars etc. should change the name to Hundred Dollar. Because as soon as the bug bites you those hundos start flying out of your pocket.
Lighting probably
Handlebars depends, I'm not buying another with handlebars don't fit me
Stock performance is the way to go.......but those that sell performance "upgrades" don't make easy money
Spend $30K and then go to J&P and dump another $10K :) What a deal! HD and the afterMarket Companies are the best buddies at your expense.
Or just leave it 100% boring and stock. Of course you are missing the fun of building your own one off machine....
Bend over and grab your ankles, cause this is gonna hurt! lol
@@jpcycles HAHA not building anything.. Just bolting stuff on. Not that there is anything wrong with that but even so. it seems folks are clamoring to be different and doing the exact same things as everyone else :/ Just look at the latest trend. "NO more chrome, chrome is so boomer" I want it murdererd out, lets go black on everything! See where I'm going? :)
Imagine spending a ton of cash on a motorcycle and then dump a ton more money into it so you can actually ride it.
What's the exhaust you show? Cheers
New shocks for my Harley 900.00, New exhaust for my HArely 1500.00, New handlebars 800.00. Having the aftermarket guy tell me all the shit I need to buy in order to make my new 28,000.00 motorcycle better, priceless!
In 1997 I bought a Honda Magna.
It is in perfect condition today
And I am preparing to take a
2500 mile " ride'.5000 miles is
My longest. I have street raced
Many Harley Davidson bikes.
Not a Street Rod. Ok. I have
Never lost a race to bikes
All done up with stage 3
Screaming eagle kits. So........
Skip the 8 steps and buy a
Decent motorcycle. Nothing
Against Harley it's just that
They are heavy and slow.
Only problem with installing an aftermarket tuner on a new Harley is it will void the factory power train warranty so I would be careful with that. Personally my first upgrade was adding a Saddlemen seat, next upgrade was stage 1 intake exhaust and tuner so I voided mine within a week, :-) 3rd was a windsheild I went with a Windvest.
We make videos so you don't need warranty's :D
You didn’t even break it in before voiding the warranty thats bold
Ya rode mine home and cut the cat out that day, didn’t want their warranty anyway, my bikes don’t go back to the dealer.
You mean that pathetically short warranty they give? They don’t believe in the reliability of their products anyway.
I sure as heck don't have that kinda money. But, I can make a breather kit!
How about the terrible side stand? Are there better after market options.
How about oil cooler? Heard alot about clutches burning up in big city traffic jams and oil don't rust metal like the water cooled they try to put on bikes now days.
Awesome video on advice. Thx
This is why I will never buy another new Harley. A "premium" brand should not require so many upgrades. I spent way too much getting mine the way it should have come from the factory.
Harley's sells a "blank canvas" for the price of a Picasso.
When I bought my first Harley....the first things I changed were: higher risers, and adding forward foot pegs (I have long arms and legs), the next thing I changed was the seat...I got a Saddleman seat: this seat moved my body forward about 1 - 2 inches over the stock one and now the forward foot controls are just the right length, then I changed the exhaust...by that time...all of the parts of my stage IV kit came in as it was on backorder and I had the Dealership install it, along with a completely different intake. Now it sounds like a Harley instead of a Sewing Machine...and it's acceleration is now decent and the bike fits my body. I later added Moons LED MC tail light, Viking Saddle Bags, Rogue Rider LED front turn signals, and I added a ventilated dipstick cap from DK Customs to reduce blowby. Ergonomics (get the bike to fit you), Safety (a louder exhaust so the drivers texting on their phones will notice) and LED lights (they're brighter use less amps resulting in a lower electrical load), I also replaced the lead acid stock battery with a Harley Lithium Ion Battery (better cranking power) and about 8 lbs lighter.
I did all that to mine except for the cam and the seat but I did add forward controls and a different front end I had to sell it to save my house from going into foreclosure so sad
The insanity of buying a 20k dollar bike, and needing to immediately put another 2-5k into it to just make it comfortable, a modicum of modern power, and ease of riding is insane to me.
Every motorcycle rider does this to some degree or another, though I have run into people that refuse to do it then complain about specific issues while riding their motorcycle, no matter what brand it is. "I wish it sounded deeper(or louder)", "I wish the handle bars were a bit closer to me", "I wish this seat was more comfortable", "I wish I had a windshield to block some of the bugs" "I wish they put better shocks on this thing" Whatever the issue I have heard people complain about it. Then I tell them what I did to my motorcycle and they say the same thing you do "Man it is crazy you spent money on your brand new motorcycle to change it like that", True but now it is the way I want it and I don't constantly complain about the issues you do.
@@Evirthewarrior No i understand the idea of customizing any vehicle, i'd imagine to an extent we all do it with every vehicle. It's that with Harley, you NEED to in order to have a borderline functional motorcycle. Like, some of these are just things that should come factory.
@@teceit That simply isn't true, you don't need to do anything. I didn't modify my Harley for almost a year and it rode fine, I just wanted a more comfortable seat, different levers, and louder pipes. I still have stock handlebars and shocks, breaks and everything else, it handles amazingly for a cruiser. It is a Street Glide Special and I cant think of a thing that I would change on it.
@@Evirthewarrior Except it is true. The engine being the size it is, and borderline anemic. The suspension being washy and soft creating multiple problems on many of their platforms. I guess that's what happens when you get your bikes made in thailand, claim american brand, and charge 20k,30k, or even 40k. I mean hell, what do i expect from a brand that names a bike for the Hiroshima bombing.
@@teceit You have no idea what you are talking about the the 114 is plenty powerful. You need to get into the 1000CC oil cooled bikes to really start to see a major difference in power.
The bike is designed for comfort and cruising down the road.
You are probably a guy that looks at an SUV and compares it to a Supra and calls the SUV a bad vehicle because the Supra has a better power to weight ratio.
Have always wondered as a gear head... why produce any vehicle with upgrades needed? . My truck performance improved alot with just a K& N cold air intake. I took a large boxfull of molded plastic crap off and replaced with a short curved tube and filter. About 15 h.p. gain and 3 to 4 mpg gain. Why does Harley install crappy shocks and seats? Customers want better....make it!
Just replaced the ecm with a thundermax. I set parameters and put it on autotune. It is backfiring hard, running rich and it sound like a single cylinder when idling.
I am super pissed
I'd love a bike that had all that stuff already. That'd probably work out $5000 cheaper than a Harley in the long run.
My stock heritage seat is so damn comfy i cant lie
I see why I’m starting to notice people moving over to Indian. I shouldn’t have to need to buy a bunch of after market parts after buying a brand new motorcycle.
But what If you want a bike that you have endless customizing options? Some people don’t want a bike you just buy and ride.
All of these upgrades will cost about how much?
Don’t forget a Dixxon flannel
It really comes down to only 1 change you need to implement. 1st. Just don't buy a hardly motorcycle. There u go.
If you need to ride your Harley in the rain, don’t use mod number two - that air filter won’t handle much, if any, water. One thing they do not mention, that can be important (especially for women) is changing out the clutch and brake handles for ones with better leverage. The wind protection is a must, as was noted in the video - get a windshield or fairing with hand protection, that reaches to a height at the top or just below the top of your helmet, so that you can see over it in heavy rain (or heavy bug coatings), but you can hunker down behind it in the rain.
Yes yes , good good
Dynojet programmers all the way. Gives you complete control of your software mapping.
First is the shift linkage... It will fall apart within the first year of owning your New Problem. Second, Go back and ask Nicely for a Refund.. The crankshaft run out will be your next problem, if the front cylinder Jug doesn't Crack at the base. The so called Cubic Inch for the Engine, is how many Problems Plus Recalls your going to deal with..