DOC HARLEY: HOW LONG TO WARM UP YOUR MOTORCYCLE
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Doc Harley from the Service Clinic at Low Country Harley-Davidson to help you with the health of your motorcycle! This week he answers a viewer's question on how long you should wait after starting your motorcycle before riding.
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Doc Harley is a motorcycle technician at Low Country Harley-Davidson with over thirty years working on motorcycles. Over the years at the dealership he has worked on Harley-Davidson, Buell, and Triumph motorcycles with a few other brands here and there from trade-ins. There are thousands of how-to videos out on UA-cam and other websites across the world. Doc’s goal is to help solve problems that people run into when using their service manual, share insights only found as a certified Harley® technician, and some of the tips he’s picked up over the years.
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I like to sit out on the bike and rev it up until the neighbors start to look out their windows. When I see the police coming down the road, I know it's warm enough, and I take off.
Me too😜
Funny
@@brianleeper5737 "... dregs of society..." I don't think you actually know the meaning of the words you are using.
@@theteddy1487 I expect that, in your demented world, they are the pillars of society.
@@brianleeper5737 Not being able to afford an expensive life style does not make someone a part of the dregs of society. Broad generalizations almost always make the person stating them look subpar on an intellectual level.
I warm it up until the RPM's go down to the regular idle and while I'm putting my gear on. Then I take it easy on for the next few miles.
Hi I ever 2004 Harley Davidson when I speed up to 30 to 40 miles an hour the front in aback vibrate one side pull the clutch in let the Trotter out it just go smooth what do I need
Don’t rpm’s rise as it warms up 👀
@@blakeoneal8306 yes a little. It's normal.
@@blakeoneal8306 my choke says otherwise
Best gas for 2004 pan head road king?
My neighbor is really wanting one of these cause every time I hit the horn before leaving in the mornings (to let everyone know that “I’m living the Dream” I hear him yelling out a bunch of stuff about Harley Davidsons to the top of his lungs and he can hardly contain himself jumping up and down and flailing his arms all about! It’s so cute.
I’ve started really holding down on it now even as I pass by his drive and wave to him to show my support.
Nappy Vids Lol. Thank you I needed a laugh today
Congrats on getting a new BF!
Hes flapping his arms to cool down ...obviously too hot ...
When i can't keep my hand on the rear cly more than 3 to 4 seconds I'm gone it's worked for me for 45 yrs
Carbed 94 Fatboy, this thing takes longer than my wife to warm up.
sal lua my 92 FXR is the same, so was my 99 FXSTC. Evos are cold natured as hell.
Your doing it wrong😂
Glad my little evo isn't the only one. Man she's a loving scooter warmed up tho.... usually an hour down the road.
Sure, when you're trying to warm her up, but she warms up quickly when I show up!
My 78 oem wife , don't warm up , don't lubercate , barely works, except for that tail pipe with no cat .wonder if local hd would take her on trade . lol 😂
Been riding many many years can't believe I clicked on this video
😂😂😂😂
My 1987 FLHTC warms up while I put on my jacket, gloves, and check my hair in the mirror.
Me too
Great to know! So glad I found your channel. We all spend a lot of money on our motorcycles. It only makes sense to take care of them so they will last a good long while.
Thanks for the info doc always great videos but I guess it all so depends on the ambient temperature.. here in Florida we are starting off at 92 degrees in the spring and summer
Thank you so much for your video, I knew that the temperature had to be in the 200's but wasn't dead on. I usually let my bike warm up for one minute.
Thank you very informative I usually let my bike run for a couple of minutes and then ride it nice and easy for a while I have a temperature gauge in the oil and it regularly reads 202-210 here in Florida nice to know that that is where it's supposed to run
I used to put a space heater next to the ol pan in winter before starting. Sure helped ease the kicking!
When I got my '66 Chevy Biscayne with a 283 the owner's manual said that no engine warm-up was necessary. I lived in Michigan at the time where it was not unusual for morning temps to be below 0 degrees F. I raced the piss out of that car and never did it burn any oil and I never had one problem with the engine. Today's oils are much better and being a motorcycle where it is likely to be driven is warmer weather I'd say that a warm-up is not doing anything but wasting fuel.
It is my opinion you are mixing apples and oranges. You wonderful car is water/ temperature controlled. Our motors are air cooled and dependent on oil temperature…..Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson This is true, an air cooled engine warms up much faster, especially if a car has a cast iron V-8 block and 6 quarts of oil.
Good to know I've been doing it right. I always let my M8 warm up a few minutes. Give it a little throttle to idle it down then ease on down the road.
I usually start my bike before putting on my gears. I let it do its things while I'm dressing up, listening to those nice twin pistons going up and down and it is a relaxing ritual.
When I start my Tri Glide as I did all of my other bikes, I allowed it to warm sitting for less than a min. But then my wife and I would get on the cruise through the neighborhood in second gear for about a mile never reving the engine. I do believer in warming the engine and as you say slowly.
This is the most important advice of all along with not riding like a crazy person.
I can't remember the times I've told people to warm up their vehicles of all types before subjecting them to high load conditions.
It's always said to be the manufacturer's fault when there's a cracked piston or a spun bearing but the fact is well know that owners manuals detailing proper operation often remain sealed in their plastic packages for over a decade without of course ever having been read.
Awesome info! Great to know! I completely forgot about the 30-second warm up, I've been letting it go a minute or two.
This video needed to come out a long time ago. I tell oil cooled engine owners, only need a minute before riding out, if an air cooled bike doesn’t have air, it’s not keeping cool. Thanks !
Another terrific video that explains the reasoning behind such a simple but little adhered to procedure.
Good stuff Doc Harley! I learn a lot from your videos 👍🏼
Thanks Doc Harley, great tip on warm ups, needed to know
Great advice Doc. I usually start my SGS then do the walk around as you described. Then I put my helmet & riding gloves on. I then sit on her, find a good playlist on the Boom II audio and take it easy for the next 10 to 15 mins. Worked hard for this baby. Definitely try and take care of her. By the way, she was dyno-tuned by another “Doc” at Doc’s Performance Tuning in Minneola, FLA.
Yeah, I start my 2017 SGS up and five minutes later after the Boom audio system syncs to my phone so I can play my tunes, then I feel the engine is warmed up enough. Ok, it's really like a minute to sync but feels like 5.
I'm a 5 minute warmer-upper. I like my engine to be at 170 F before I take off. This usually takes less than 5 minutes, but I want the oil to be easily circulating before I have the parts moving. Probably way overkill, but just taking care of what I have.
I have my heated garage temperature set at 200 degrees that way I dont have to wait.
Do you live in Germany?
Too soon?
So you and Granny don't get cold!
You must have money up the Ying Yang, your gonna melt it you need them plastic parts!!!
@@randyweidner1067 I am going to go out on a limb, and say the guy was joking.
LEDGEND
Always something to learn from Doc Harley. Thanks for all the great videos.
Thank you for your support….Doc
Hi Doc just watch your warm up video I do the same with the motorcycle I acquired late last year 1987 FLST at the end of all checks the horn is last living the dream is perfect projection of the incredible machine I'm riding cheers
Love your vidioes, they are conformational, for us old guys , im 67 and have been riding over 50 years, thanks Doc
Thanks Doc. As always great video..
Love these videos, Doc! Thanks buddy!
You really had me Doc. I've own a RoadKing, & it's pretty loud. I live in a quiet neighborhood & always feel a little insensitive when I start it early. Appreciate only 15-30 seconds is necessary, & i didn't know that. THANKS for the info. You earned a new subscriber.
Yeah, been warning my 20 Heritage till the RPM's drop down to about normal while I'm getting my gear on. Probably a wee bit too long, especially with my new shift, gotta leave the house at 0200.
I'm in a apt with underground parking. V@H pro pipe. Feel sorry for the folks on the first floor at 5 am😬
Listen to your Doctor? Absolutely. Listen to Doc Harley? Hell YES! He should be a radio broadcaster. Speaks with authority and confidence. Be smart, do what smart people do.
Thank you, Doc. Great video. Great tips. On warm days, I take about a minute before riding and do the checks you suggested. On winter, I give it more time. Usually, the motorcycle fast idle is an indication of when the bike is ready to ride.
What is the fast idle?
@@simplybuilt_1708 when you hear it, you’ll know ;)
Thank you, so important. Telling my friends for years, maybe they will listen to you. I Always get the highest mileage in our group from my motorcycle because of warming it up.
Thanks for your affirmation…..Doc
as always, good advice Doc. Keep 'em coming!
Thanks doc great greatvideo yes I am living the dream!!
I open it up down the street then stop at the stop sign and look back to see how many car alarms I've set off !
the guy next door to me bought a new harley and the dealership told him to warm it up for no less then 15 mins...Haha... i am a harley mechanic for many years and i told him: no wrong more like 2 mins max... he still warms it up for 15 long ass mins... that bike must be hot as hell...
I mean to be fair, the bike is definitely up to temp 😂
As always Doc! Thank you!
hi from England, ye I have an 89 xlch and thanks for the tip...oh and when I have finished with it I shall send it home.
Glad to hear from an Englishman 👍
Yesterday, 80° in Maryland - jumped on my 02 Heritage & went flying out of my driveway down the street yippie yippie yippie so happy and then her engine died!!! I definitely need to warm her up!!! Thank you so much for the video! I’ve learned so much from you!!
Thanks for sharing your story...Doc
Doc,I guess you can use ur tough book for finding out the correct oil temperature for road glide models, where u can select the option motorcycle condition report and click on option load once it's reaches the specific temperature it generates the complete report. hot oil level check always on jiffy stand.
Great video Doc, thanks once again
Great tip Doc, living the dream.......
Hit the Horn and Let Everyone Know Your Living the Dream!...what a great quote...
Mike, you can Also tell just by listening to the bike, the temp sensor with have the engine RPM slightly elevated while warming, much like the Enrichener used to do, if you wait for the RPM's to drop to what would be a normal idle, then you can start to put a load on the motor. Do it too soon and they come see fine Tech's like you to replace gaskets etc. and like you said while waiting for the motor to warm do a pre-ride inspection.
Thanks Doc . Love the video... i just subscribed
Great video, I enjoy watching your channel.
Thanks for watching Christian…..Doc
Doc
You should be hosting a moto radio show!
I love his mindset! I still live the dream!
Beautiful info Doc.
Very good video Doc thank you Joe H.
Thanks again Doc!
I allow mine to warm up till the back head is very warm to the touch of my back fingers. You are allowing Engine temp and oil temp to rise. It’s a relatively thick oil and it’s not hurting to allow getting hot before running down the road.
I am a pilot and Harleys are air cooled just like my airplane. I do what's called a Preflight before I even start it. After starting it has to warm up before I do a mag check. By the time I get to the runway it's been at least 5 minutes. Waiting a minute before running down the road on my Harley doesn't seem that long to me. Doc is always right! I also have a temp gauge oil dip stick. I can check the oil temperature at any moment.
@@VailJohnson - max power takeoff is no more than 2,700 rpm. The cylinders are very similar being air cooled aluminum fins. I climb out at about 100 so there's plenty of air cooling the cylinders. I think I'll stick with Doc`s suggestion as I'm never in a rush to get going.
You think too much, Harleys and airplanes have no one single thing in common, lol
@@Alimahmoudi1992Oh but you’re wrong.
Good advice, thanks Doc Harley.
Thanks Doc I just got my 2012 ultra limited last Sunday I’m a new rider and I’ll take all the information I can get.
Welcome to a great season of riding....Doc
Good video.. You the man Doc...
Good info Doc! Thanks
Great advice! thanks a lot! Love your videos! Everyone can see you person = passionate about our lovely Harleys :-) I wish I could be on your passion and knowledge level. Greetings from Poland. FLHX 2008 :-)
Awesome voice for this stuff and great video! So, would it be about 2 minutes before it hit 200 when idling then or 15 minutes of riding?
Not 5 not 10 not 15, Just half a minute, This is one decent doc
yes sir , will do ! :P ! morning bike checking while warming up and honk before ride !
Thank you Doc
Thanks man great little tip
Thank you for the great video!!!
I just start it up and watch my FP3 Oil temp gauge while I get on my helmet and setup Spotify lol once it hits 150f I go slow for a mile or two then GAME ON 😎
FANTASTIC!
Very nice and informative video !
I own a 2018 Sportster 1200 Custom. Usually wait until the Idle speed drops to about 1100 or so.
I even wait till it’s normal idle. 975 to 1025
I do the same on my 2015 883. I like the control at lower RPM for start off rather then at 1400 -1500 rpm. I have a loose sand 1/4th mile long driveway and it's best to do at lower idle power and speed.
Great video. Cheers Doc. ...
Hell yeah 😎 I let my dad's 81shovel warm up just a bit longer than my lowrider tc88. Can't beat the sound of a shovel. The iconic potato Harley sound wasn't made popular by the evo. The panhead or the iron head. Twas thy Shovel!🤘
I love the Shovel too but the Pan sounded good too....Doc
Hey Doc love your videos very fun and interesting and you have top me a lot
In cooler seasons I let it run long enough vertically if convienant, (not on side stand) to reach operating temperature, then ride easy for a few.
In the desert, the opposite, and I try to scrub off heat befire shutting down.
The most damage occurs at start up and from the fact the aluminum pistons expand faster than the steel cylinders they're reciprocating in
And a cold seize is when you rev the shit out of it before it’s properly warmed up for a few seconds if the ambient temperatures are decent. Then off ya go
The Doc Rocks !!!
I appreciate that...Doc
Sage advice. Same for a car or truck.
Carb bikes are traditionally a bit more fussy. On factory fuel setting they will spit back until up to nearly full operating temp. Put an air cleaner and some slip ons and they will need a bit more fuel just to run. Start up on the choke and push the choke in very slowly until the idle comes down to around 11-12 and starts to sound lumpy. That'll take minimum 30 seconds. If everything is set up right you can get it to idle lumpy at 1100 and pull the clutch. Wait a few seconds before firmly selecting 1st. It should take a few hundred yards riding before it's happy with the choke off. The 3 turns out fuel screw and no spitting cold when you blip is way rich. I got my 1450 fxdl at 25k miles/25 years old with the 3 turns. Carbon factory, it's taken a bit at a time but now runs and smells sweet at 2 ⅛. Ran like c**p on 3 turns which is probably why they did 300 miles in a year on stale E10 before selling it.
It's got K&N and Vance and Hines straight shots with new packing in quiet baffles and it's nothing like quite under.
Happy days.
I tried different time cold start warm ups. 30 seconds a bit short. One full minute, followed by easy run ups for the first couple miles it seems to run smoother. Air cooled bikes really should not idle more than a stop light, but where I ride I don't see any.
Love your videos on UA-cam, you have helped me many times. I have a question. I Purchased a 2003 FXSTD Softail Desue from a private party and he did not remember the PIN. I have tried the way you have on your videos, but nothing happens on this older Harley. Do you know how to find or change the PIN?
Thanks, for your help..
The easiest way is take it to your dealer. he can connect, pull up the pin and install the pin you desire....Doc
Doc is the best!
Always great advise and never afraid to call some of Harley’s juNk parts junk!
Keep up the good work Doc
I let my Buell warm up till engine sounds right. There isn't a noticeable change in rpm Around 2-3 minutes in the cold 40-50 degree mornings. Maybe a minute if 80's or warmer. If I don't let it warm up it's jerky. And have an uphill stop and turn not far from home. So warming it up is more for me than engine.
Hi. I'm from Europe. I'm watching your channel. One of the best materials about Harley. That's why I wanted to find out from you what the operating temperature of the oil in Evolution should be, I use Amsoil 20/50. Thank you very much in advance. cordial greetings.
Thank you for watching. I do not have the information you requested for Amsoil….Doc
Great advice!
Its been a habit for me to always let the engine get warm before going. I also do that with my cars! Lol! I feel better when I know the oil is warm and all is running smoothly!!
Thank you for heads up. Take care & best wishes. Same goes for all who see this comment. Cheers ✌
Thanx Doc, you da man!
very interesting. thank you
Good stuff. I start mine before I put on my gloves and helmet.
I ride during winter months temps are around 25f to 36f I warm up my bike for a couple of minutes it takes time to the engine to get the correct temp!
Living the dream couldn’t be said any better
You are the man!
I love the way you word your videos.... living the dream is exactly right! Doing what makes you happy is the way you're rewarding yourself, and fulfilling your position on God's Earth. Great tips, Thank you Sir, I appreciate it !!
2014 XL883L, V&H's mufflers. If I let my bike idle for 15 seconds after start-up my neighbors would go crazy. (04:30) When I start the engine cold the idle speed is around 2,000 RPM so I have it in gear and once the engine starts I take right off. I do not touch the throttle until 3 to 4 minutes after the bike is running and then I may go up to 3,000 RPM once I'm on the main street. I've lost 1 rocker arm bushing in 40,000 miles. Good video, keep it up.
fuk the neighbors. i am not putting any load on a cold engine.
i like my stuff to last.
The biggest reason to let it warm up a bit is to get an oil film on everything and then a few degrees temp. A minute is probably plenty and I like the check lights/tires idea. Then don't beat on it until after a few miles. The first 30 seconds on any engine is where the most wear occurs....give a bit to spread the oil around...especially on high wear areas like cam and lifters. DEFINITELY don't take right off during this time...will most likely cut your engine life
Thank you, very much, for your channel and great content; just subscribed. I had been idling too long, because I wasn't sure how to ride "easy." I wish you had gone a little further. What do you mean, when you say to ride easy until it's warmed up? I understand no hard acceleration. Recently started trying to do it right. But, when I change gears at 2.5k, the motor drops immediately to 2k and it sounds horrible, like something isn't right. It starts to sound like rpms are getting too high around 3k. So, is my intuition of riding between 2.5k and 3k rpm (during warm up) solid? I ride with the Power Vision display, and don't exceed 3k until above 200*.
I absolutely love my 07 Vulcan 1500 but I can't lie my dream bike will always be a Harley street glide but i don't have harley money to be spending lol
My comment is what “oil temp” did my flhtcu twin cam run best at which was 190-210deg F.
That’s the oil temp my Hd ran at in 90deg F outside temps after I added an oil cooler with twin thermostatically controlled cooling fans,a small version of luv jugs cooling fans mounted to left side motor horn mount with therm control too,XIED’s to richen idle low & mid range rpm mixture,went external crankcase breather to remove extreme hot blowby gas Lauren with oil mist from engine intake.
Doing all the above increased oil pressure,pressure,stopped valve train noise,stopped detonation,allowed motor to retain all the pwr/trq & crisp throttle response it had just past warmup from cold it always lost 20-30mins later after fully heating up,hot starts post fueling up were much easier/faster,less engine heat was hitting the riders too.
Sounds like you could write a book on this subject….Doc
Well Doc glad to see everyone agrees with you.
I’ve been jumping on my FatBoy starting it up and running fairly hard down the road. I’ve been running it that way for 24 years. Cammed, screaming beagle heads and a Bob Woods carb.
Still runs pretty strong.
1999 to 2023. Isn’t that 24 years of not letting it warm up??
I put on around 25K a year on my Harley, I also put around 20k on my Hayabusa.
Would you buy a lottery ticket for me you very lucky rider….Doc
@@LowCountryHarleyDavidson I’ve been riding for over 55 years. I’ve ridden all my bikes that way.
I have only owned EVOs. But the rule I follow is to warm the engine until I feel heat permeate up through the rear rocker box. Not necessarily when the top of the box is hot, but until I feel heat coming up through the cover layers. Then I go easy for a couple miles. Sometimes this is quick, sometimes not. I have ridden in below 0F and it takes a few minutes. I will also occasionally put a space heater under the primary blowing under the trans and oil pan for just a few minutes before I start the engine.
So far, I've bought 2 EVOs with rocker box, head, or base gasket leaks and after fixing, none of the leaks returned.
Thanks for sharing SixShooter….Doc
Living the dream. I like that.