That's cause his first kill was self defense and life kept kicking him down until that point. The one of the man running wasn't but I think people would say yeah that was within the realm of reason. Not justified but. "Yeah I could see myself snapping and killing that guy in a fit of manic rage and revenge." Most if not all his kills are meant to make you think if his feelings are justified not his actions. It's a brilliant script.
@@JitteryJackanapeto be fair the guy running away was fair game. There are people who learn of a crime and go crazy a day later and kill someone randomly and get no jail time. Like the one father who learned his son was graped by his coach. Coach was sent to the afterlife. Father got no jail time because its considered a crime commited in a severe emotional state where you literally arent there so to speak. So arthur shooting the guy in the back. Justified. However there are some laws against standing over someone and unloading into them. Regardless. The point is it was in self defense. You could even argue his moms murder was an act of emotion too. Murray maybe not so much that was contemplated well in advance.
Because he was created out of abuse and evil, he wasn’t just born evil. His pos mom got with an abusive guy that gave little Arthur brain damage and caused all his issues. And then you can go a step farther and not even blame the mom because she clearly also had mental issues so you could blame the universe itself for being so cruel. In the end the Joker isn’t a product of chosen evil, but evil that was put upon him
@@Randomyoutubecommenter true. But the end scene with him in the ward again suggests the entire movie was in his head. Hes still the joker. But bruce being a little boy may not have been real. IE he created an entire storyline to how he created batman.
When it was revealed that Joker was hallucinating being in a relationship with the girl next door this dude in my theater laughed sooooo hard. I’ll never forget that lol.
I have an autistic son, and we were at the theater for Marley and me and right at the sad part in a completely quiet full theater he busted out laughing. He had no idea what was going on he doesn't even watch the movies, he just started laughing.
Mark Hamill, Heath Ledger, and Joaquin Phoenix are my three favorite Jokers. Every Joker is different but I loved what Joaquin brought to the role. He showed how cruel the world can be and what it can do to a person. Love this movie
Mark Hamill- the comedian Heath Ledger- the anarchist Joaquin Phoenix- the psychopath Jack Nicholson- the gangster There is one more, but we don’t talk about him.
Just wanted to give guys some information about this movie and the Joker, this movie is NOT connected to any Batman movie that you've previously seen. The director Todd Phillips wanted to create his own origin story for Joker, the Joker doesnt actually have a true origin story in DC comics over the years the Joker has had different origins, what was correct was how Bruce Wayne parents were killed but they werent killed by some guy pretending to be the Joker from a group at some riot, based on the comics Bruce Wayne's parents were actually killed by a low level criminal named Joe Chill
Did Todd Phillips want to create aan origin story? If I remember correctly, he set out to make a specific type of film bu couldn't get the backing he needed so he threw in some tidbits from comics since comic book movies were still booming. This movie is really about a man struggling with mental and emotional health issues while living in a toxic society that fosters those issues. Other than a few name drops from comics, the movie is heavily inspired by Taxi Driver and King of Comedy, hence Deniroe having the role he has here.
The condition that the joker has is called a Pseudobulbar affect (the laughing part). It's caused by severe trauma to the brain which he obviously sustained during his beatings with his mom. They're not generally dangerous, but due to his other trauma, it can push you over that edge. It's a lesson that we should at least try to be cordial to people even if you don't like them because you don't know what's going on in their life.
As a kid who was bullied in school, I understand why Arthur became the joker. I would never take it to this extreme, but a person can only take so much and eventually they're gonna snap.
I was wondering if that one might have gone over their heads because they didn’t show the scene where she finds him in her apartment and tells him to get out. Great reaction though!
Taxi Driver and King of Comedy are the inspiration for this movie. The few name drops from comics are just to draw in a general audience that otherwise wouldn't have seen this movie. It would have ended up as an under seen cult following movie like Requiem for a Dream because it makes you face something about people and society that people don't like to face. This is about a man struggling with mental and emotional health issues while living in a society that fosters those issues.
Hey guys. Yeah and let's not forget that Martin Scorsese was in DeNiro's ear throughout the making of this film as an Executive Producer. Imagine Scorsese comes to the set and tells Todd Philips, "I think that should be over here, and put the camera here for exterior stable and only use 1970s cars"... What would you do?? Sheeyet, I'm doin' whatever the man says! Great job by Todd Philips for following through. Hard to believe he's the guy in OLD SCHOOL that rings the doorbell and says, "I'm here for the gang-bang?" 😂
It just uses the name Joker to get eyes on it. Just like the few name drops of Waynesx Arkham Asylum, Crime Alley... If they didn't use the popularity of Batman, this movie would have been an under seen cult following movie like Requiem of a Dream. This movie is really inspired by Taxi Driver and King of Comedy. It's really about a guy struggling with mental and emotional health issues while living in a society that fosters those issues.
Agreed. This may have been a better made movie, with an excellent performance, but when I want to see Joker stuff I'll watch "The Killing Joke" or "Return of the Joker". I have more empathy for that version, while also wanting his downfall.
I’m glad you loved this film.watching Asia realize how much she loved Phoenix acting, and was like WTF.!..quote “I completely believe him”. Love the channel.
I remember watching this for the first time and once the film was over...it just set really heavy. They did a fantastic job with this film. the acting...the writing...everything. so depressing and yet it has some hard truths about mental health and society and everything.
I absolutely love this film, Joaquin played Joker so well. I felt huge sympathy for him in this and was glad when he became the villain he became, it was almost like everyone and everything around him deserved the bad side of him for the way they treated him. Sometimes it's good to bet on the bad guy. Great reaction as usual guys, really enjoyed this ❤
This was the first R Rated DC movie to be nominated for 11 Oscars including Best Picture, but won for Best Actor Joaquin Phoenix and Best Original Score. It made $1 billion dollars at the box office. When the film was released it drew a lot if controversy , regarding people who suffer mental health issues as they are viewed as heroes for a great cause. David Fincher saw the film and said it was an attack on a very serious matter.
This movie builds and builds to the ending and boy does it deliver. Those last few scenes are incredible. Especially the end with him on the car hood. For sure a best actor. Phoenix carried this thing.
Just to clear up the confusion, this is not a part of the Batman stories that you’ve seen. This was meant to be a completely separate movie from the others, so they aren’t really connected. This is just basically their take on the origin of Joker.
The way they portray mental instability, irrationality, and impulsivity is so so so good. It also does a good job showing how people can stand behind something that is so clearly bad yet justify it in their minds. As well as some very slight political notions about rich vs poor. The way that two psychos can be created by different circumstances. Arthur/Joker is a product of a mentally ill mother and a society that has judged and treated him a certain way due to his own condition and it crushed his soul and made him hate to the point where he was going to kill himself. Instead he turned his rage against the world and by doing so created another psycho in Bruce Wayne/Batman. Arthur's actions and obsession with the Wayne family lead to the deaths of Thomas and Martha Wayne. Bruce (presumably) becomes Batman and uses his own hatred against those who remind him of the person who took his parents from him.
I'd say the political notions are more than "very slight." this movie strikes me as a warning to the 1%...they can only thumb their noses to the poor and downtrodden for so long before the guillotines come out.
Yes. Phoenix lost a lot of weight in order to play the role. Given that the Joker is often portrayed as a very lanky if not awkwardly postured individual, Phoenix is something of a method actor he takes his roles very seriously. That said, after the film he gained a lot of weight back and expressed regret over putting his body through it and decided he'd be less inclined to take on roles in the future that would put so much strain on his physical state. Batman's origin is always more or less the same, but there are subtle nuances each time the story gets retold. In some the Joker has been responsible for his parents deaths, in others, he's not even a factor. Joker's origin on the other hand has always been somewhat more cryptic and open to interpretation. Something that was played with by Nolan in The Dark Knight with the joker constantly telling the story about how he got his scars, but not giving the same story each time. In some iterations he's been a low level street thug who was always a bit crazy and finally broke into bigtime crime. In other's he has been an innocent bystander who met with an unfortunate accident that found him in a vat of chemicals that bleaches his skin and alters his brain, and in others he's been a gangster crime boss that just liked the aesthetic of the joker look. There are many continuities even within the comics and they all add their own little spins to things in order to keep ideas fresh. We're talkin' about characters that have been made, and remade several times over. Each time books are passed on to another author and artist to continue, they tend to want to leave their own signature upon the comic whether it is in the narrative style, the art, or the tone of the book. While there have been issues that go into some detail about the Joker's origins, this movie has been the first deep dive into the driving forces of the character. That said, it is not intended to be conflated with the greater DC universe as a tie in film. or any sort of prequel to a future Batman film. It is the Joker's story and his story alone as sort of an expose of the character. Of course all of this has given plenty of people a lot to talk about in terms of its place in canon, and the merits of the film being based on a comic character yet not being a comic book movie. Sometimes art is just art though, and that's life.
It's a masterpiece. Every shot could be imagined as being a frame in a comic book. Every shot could be a poster for the movie. Joaquin Phoenix...WOW just WOW.
Joaquin Phoenix did a fenomenal job playing Joker. For me Heath Ledger was the best Joker ever. However...Jaoquin got so close to him, I literally felt the character, I felt like it was him but older, the body language, every performance Joaquin did is just a brilliant work. When he got an oscar at the end of his acceptance speech, an emotional Phoenix said: "Really, I'm standing here on the shoulder's of my favourite actor - Heath Ledger. Thank you. "
You two did realize that all the times he was with the girl down the hall was imagined, right? She was the only one nice to him and stood by him, and he imagined the whole thing just like he imagined the first time on the show and the comedy show going well. He wanted so much for someone to be there for him, so he made up a relationship in his mind.
This movie is an absolute masterpiece. Joaquin played this perfectly.. and Asia said it best when she mentioned how believeable he was. A lot of us can relate to how Arthur feels in this movie. A beautiful work, for sure.
Lots of people miss the fact that he almost shoots himself on the train after he kills the 1st 2 guys, but then decides to go after the 3rd guy instead. He's teetering on the edge of suicide for much of the movie.
@@tuffs4it it’s not about overcoming anything, it is what molds you into who you are. No child is born evil. A loving mother, a caring friend or a welfare system that cares for you. All of these things could’ve changed Jokers trajectory. But for stupid people I guess it’s easier to see things in black and white, good or bad, perpetrators and victims. It seems you missed the theme of this entire movie.
@@Bananananaser I see you're not to bright, so I'll explain a couple things for you. What I said in no way contradicts the film. Nothing your followup statement said contradicts my statement. Your original post was an absolute statement (which means there can be no other outcome). In other words, someone born in a bad environment will always be a victim unable to change. I was pointing out that it has been proven over and over (in real life) that people who grew up in the worst of situations and with everything going against them have indeed overcome the product of their environment while many do not. We do not see this in the film because Arthur has no will to change be it through a personality trait, mental capacity or both. Most of the film (if not all of it--depending on your interpretation) is Arthur's sick fantasy where he always comes out on top. Why would he want to change? But hey! You insinuated (wrongly) I see things in "black and white" (when it was actually yourself who used the simplest terms to begin with) and am stupid, so that makes you the winner. Congratulations! 🎁
@@tuffs4it That we are products of our environment is by, I would assume, all psychiatrists considered a FACT. That statement does not mean you have no control over your own life though. Learn to empathize.
@@tuffs4it you saw a film about a person being isolated, mentally and physically abused for his entire life to the point where his mind breaks. And your takeaway is “don’t be a victim” That’s cold.
😆Asia: Is he .. dancing?? *whispers* 😳 he's dancing. LOL Love Joaquin since the movie "Parenthood;" he never misses when acting. This was a great take on the Joker. He made the Joker more human- something we never really see in other versions. Thanks for picking this guys-you're getting us ready for the scream fest next month, yay!
I remember watching this movie for my 1st out of 3 times in the cinema, when a family of mom, dad, older sister and younger brother sat on the row in front of me. In the first scene, where Arthur laughs out of pain and despair, the young boy (around 10 years old) whispered to his mom "I don´t think, that I wanna watch this movie". The family sat still for another 5-10 minutes and then left with a sad boy. This movie is not a superhero/supervillain movie. It´s a social study of men at the very rock bottom of society, who suffers in silence and experiences nothing but alienation from the world around them. I am so happy, that Hollywood had the courage to make this movie, because I think, it´s the most relevant and important movie of the last 20 years for the forgotten but suffering men of our Western World.
This was a fantastic movie. Saw this twice in the theater and it was great each time. Packed theater both times too. I know there's a second one coming but, man, I just can't imagine it being as good as this. 🐾
16:43 let’s not forget, we’re seeing the story through Arthur’s eyes I don’t think Randall ever ACTUALLY gave him the gun, I think he imagined the whole thing after stealing it.
If he hadn't given him the gun he would have zero reason to go and visit Arthur, he didn't have any genuine concern for him, he just realised he was culpable after giving him the gun and was hoping to somehow convince Arthur to change his story to clear his name.
WOW I just realized that Arthur is wearing the same clothes as Bruce when he meets him for the first time at the gate, like they're part of the same reflection!!!!
Another thing to take in consideration is that the nice version of Thomas Wayne is the perspective Bruce Wayne as a child whereas the Jokers point of view maybe how Gotham viewed Thomas Wayne...the Truth could be somewhere in the middle
I remember watching this in the theater and distinctly remember that when the movie ended and everyone was leaving there was silence. Nobody was talking, they were just stunned. Compare this movie to all of the rest of the stuff that is being put out these days. The fact that it got produced gives me hope that we might actually see dark, gritty, thoughtful films like this in the future. The way this movie was shot was absolutely gorgeous as well. Every scene was a piece of art. The ambiguity of so many things in the movie (what was real and what did Arthur imagine), the acting, the cinematography, everything. It is just so much to process. Loved it.
His experiences with the girl from his apartment building were mostly imagined. That's what those short clips were about after he read his mom's medical book: memories of him hanging out with the girl, and then memories of the same places with just him.
15:20 there was a Batman animated series that was for kids however if you read some of the comics they are very dark. The movie was largely influenced by "The Killing Joke" which has a lot of adult themes in it.
Some people love this movie, others hate it - but the one thing that is inarguable is that Joaquin Phoenix gave an incredible performance. It really gives you insight into the psychotic mind of The Joker.
True. Watching this movie once was enough for me. I've never been a big Batman fan because it's too dark, and this movie is the darkest of any I've seen in that world, but I agree Phoenix's performance was stellar.
Philistines love it. It blow the mind of those who are used watching Fast and Furious and Captain Marvel. For insufferable cinema snobs like me, it’s garbage.
IMO, a great performance doesn't mean much, if anything, if the plot and/or characters are not well done. Joker is a weird mishmash of better films, and was utterly vapid to me.
I watched this film with a live orchestra playing all the music, to say it was something different is an understatement. Phoenix acted his arse off in the film and was very deserving of all the accalaids he got for his "Joker". This film is phenomenal!! Great reaction guys 👍👊🇬🇧
When he dance the first time afther the 3 killings in the sub... Thats his Swane dance. He became the black swane over there🖤 His dark site is comming out. God i love this movie. My mom was mentally ill and his laugh ... so the same.. i always cry when i see this masterpiece
There's a meme out there about how Bruce Wayne (or his father) would do more for Gotham by giving their money away to the poor rather than be a vigilante - and this movie pretty much shows that. Imagine if Arthur got actual help, and if the rioters didn't also feel stepped on by the world, if Bruce's dad hadn't looked down on them all, etc. It could have prevented Joker from becoming Joker.
Phoenix kills this role. What I like about how he plays it is that everything he does is off. It's like he lives on a different wavelength compared to people around him, so they get freaked out by him. And because he tries to fit in, make jokes, friends, and be nice, but the world around him doesn't reciprocate because of how weirded out everyone is, so eventually he lashes out. It's a great Joker origin story.
Thomas Wayne said something incredibly ignorant and insensitive. He did not deserve to die for that, but this movie is very good at making you "understand" why someone would kill him.
In comic terms, this was the absolute perfect portrayal of the "clown prince of crime" joker. There are three version. Clown prince is the second. The first was the joker type from batman 66'. The last was basically your true psychopath joker that heath ledger played perfectly. That version was like the first two twisted together.
If you don't know this movie is mostly about mental health, and a commentary on how society shapes it, before going into it you're going to be completely caught off guard lol. But yeah it's one of the deepest and the realest movies I've ever seen.
Bruce and Joker may not be biological brothers but they are brothers in MADNESS. Joker is crazy but so is Bruce, the guy dresses up in a batsuit and goes out at night to fight crime. The Joker dresses up in a clown suit to commit crimes.
the media hated this movie and always called it controversial to the point the cops were stationed at the movie theaters. i remember them with assault rifles hanging out when i saw it.
The conversations Joker had with the young mom and her son, didn't happen. Joker imagined/hallucinated those interactions with her. That's why they showed flashbacks with him and her, then showed just him, by himself in reality. That's also why she was so scared when he was in her apartment, because she had no relationship or interactions with him since the beginning, on the elevator. Great reaction guys!
I have severe paranoia and hallucinations due to a very bad long line of abuse and stress. My life is crumbling to dust and all I can do is watch it happen. Everyone expects you to be okay because you’re the one who has to carry them on your shoulders.
One of the details I love about this movie that a lot of people miss is how Arthur is constantly sustaining head injuries throughout the movie, no doubt exacerbating his mental illness. It's easy to overlook because audiences have become numb to violence and Arthur himself seems to stoically have little reaction to it so you almost forget that this poor guy is getting his brain scrambled multiple times a day. It's so much more painful to think about if you know the story of Chris Benoit.
Fun fact. Or not so fun. Remember when joker's character says if it was him expiring in the street, you'd walk right over him? He had an older brother River Phoenix who died in the street. And I believe people did walk over him. River Phoenix was in Stand By Me if you want to see him act. I always wondered if he thought about his brother River when he was saying that line.
I did not see this as both of u did. This to me, was a sad story. Everything Author thought he knew, people he thought he could trust, was all a lie. When the 3 men started to beat him up on the train, he snapped. What u were witnessing in the bathroom after the train was the first signs of Joker immerging. Then finding out about his mom, little by little, Author started to disappear, and Joker take over. That's why he didn't care anymore. He just did whatever he wanted to do on this day. He was going to do what he planned anyway. But when face to face with his idol, making fun of him, he changed his plan. So, that is why I find it sad.
Don’t ever call someone a junkie, don’t call them crazy, don’t call them anything but what they say their name is. Basic human respect, that’s what “Joker” is secretly preaching. Also my wife and I saw this shit in theater and we laughed so hard when nobody else did. If you don’t get a laugh out of Joker letting the little man leave because he’s a good person, then you can’t sit with us 😂
See I laughed once he kissed him. But Joker being Joker the master manipulator, genuinely insane, clown prince of crime that he is. I thought that was deliberate. And he was gonna kill him. So when he let him go that was the "joke" which is just even more brilliant. They give us such uncomfortable scenes and one of the things people do to ease the tension is, laugh. Brilliant, brilliant movie.
@@JitteryJackanapebut it could still be deliberate. Hed know gary wouldve told on him probably which would eventually make him famous one way or another.
@johnblackrose good point. The best thing about Joker as a villain is we can never truly know what he will do next. He is unpredictable and that's what makes him Batmans greatest villain. Not even Joker knows who he is or what motivates him. Which makes him impossible for batman to predict or track down. He is just chaos in human form.
Even tho the composer of the score for this movie won an Oscar, the score itself doesnt get enough praise. It's damn near a character in itself. It perfectly depicts the mood of the scene, the environment and Arthur's turmoil as a whole. From the dred to his dancing, which I always equated to his metamorphosis into Joker, it's all perfect. It's just moody af throughout the entire film but when he spread that blood across his smile, it became triumphant and i couldnt be happier for him.
The trailer for this movie knocked my socks off. For the first 90% of it, I found it fascinating. Then they drop the bomb. “Oh by the way, this is a Joker movie!” Most filmmakers would have put that detail closer to the front….
You guys should do Walk The Line, Joaquin Phoenix played Johnny Cash in that movie and it’s so good. I remember it coming out when I was a kid and it was the first movie I ever saw him in
@@NikkieTwixJoaquin Phoenix Met Johnny Cash shortly before Johnny died. Johnny was aware that they were going to make a movie about him and Joaquin Phoenix was his choice to play him.
Well technically in the comics, Joker has the same ability as Deadpool. He is able to see through the fourth wall. He knows whatever medium he is in. Comics, video games, movies, etc. So I can't confirm this but given the scene flash to Bruce's parents while he is in the asylum, I assume by that point he has awakened that ability and knows that little Bruce will become batman because of him. And that the only people that will get the "joke" is the real life audience watching the movie. Again I can't confirm that as far as the movie goes but if so, it's awesome.
I'm an old fart and hadn't really intended seeing this movie. Both my grown sons were DC comics fans as children and had seen all the Batman movies. When they saw this one, they talked about it to me until I finally made up my mind to see it--they talked me into it. I can't say if it was the best Joker personification for me, but I found it a powerful film. Was so sad for Arthur, his plight really pulled me in and even when he became violent there was still a part of me that felt empathy for him. That's how good Joaquin Phoenix's acting was. 😢
@@Doxymeister I fully understand where you are coming from. I have to admit that I'm not too fond of larger-than-life figures in DC/Marvel movies. At some point it loses it's charm. What I liked about this Joker is the re-humanization of the anti-hero. The ambiguity and duality makes it far more interesting than your average bad guy causing mayhem. The superb acting and social commentary just adds to the movie's brilliance while the characterdevelopment is the main thing that carries the movie.
A bit of good visual storytelling is in the therapist's office: you can see the office is small, cramped, and flooded with paperwork in boxes; she probably went into her career wanting to do good, but there's only so much you can help like 30 patients at the same time with one session every other week. As she said, they don't care about the mentally ill, so why would they care about the therapists assigned to them?
I'm so glad you guys did this one! Comic books can be very dark. They are graphic stories- Just like any book but given in smaller bite sized pieces with lots of pictures to illustrate the story. Now Asia knows that a comic book movie can be high drama and not just laughs and I'm thrilled for the door this opens for you both! 😆 I think comic books became so popular with people at the time because back then many people didn't have a good education and may not necessarily be able to read well (or at all). Comics gave those people the same escapism that people who could read enjoyed.
"I'm waiting for the punchline." "There is no punchline." I really, really love this movie. An easy 9/10 rating from me. That said, Heath Ledger is the best cinematic Joker (with Jack Nicholson as a close second). The Joker is a thug and gangster, his first priority is to commit crime to make money and murder is a happy byproduct of his profession. Arthur is a murderer, but he's not a gangster. Fun Fact: The premiere of the film at the Venice Film Festival drew an eight-minute standing ovation. It went on to be the first R-rated movie in history to make $1 Billion worldwide. There's a sequel in the works with Lady Ga Ga set to co-star. Historical Fact: Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) performs stand up at 'Pogo's Comedy Club' in Gotham. Pogo The Clown was the stage name of real life professional clown and serial killer John Wayne Gacy. Typically, Gavy would lure a victim to his home and dupe them into donning handcuffs on the pretext of demonstrating a magic trick. Medical Fact: Joaquin Phoenix called perfecting the Joker's laugh the toughest part of playing the character. He also sought to portray a character with which audiences could not identify. Pathological laughter is a real-life disorder which causes that the patient suffers of uncontrollable laugh attacks as response for tense or stress situations. Although it isn't usual, these attacks can stop the normal flux of oxygen to the brain or lungs, causing hypoxia or even asphyxia in the patient.
Asia and BJ both of you are my favorite on UA-cam to watch reactions from you are the goats. You couldn't ask for two more pleasant people. I appreciate you entertaining me for about 2 years now!
48:30 the therapist said he was on 7 different meds, so before when he was admitted to the psych floor they figured out what works for him (in their mind) so they saw him as stable enough for discharge
Joaquin Phoenix crushed it. He does all the horrible things but you still feel some empathy for him. It's crazy.
That's cause his first kill was self defense and life kept kicking him down until that point. The one of the man running wasn't but I think people would say yeah that was within the realm of reason. Not justified but. "Yeah I could see myself snapping and killing that guy in a fit of manic rage and revenge." Most if not all his kills are meant to make you think if his feelings are justified not his actions. It's a brilliant script.
@@JitteryJackanapeto be fair the guy running away was fair game.
There are people who learn of a crime and go crazy a day later and kill someone randomly and get no jail time. Like the one father who learned his son was graped by his coach. Coach was sent to the afterlife. Father got no jail time because its considered a crime commited in a severe emotional state where you literally arent there so to speak. So arthur shooting the guy in the back. Justified. However there are some laws against standing over someone and unloading into them.
Regardless. The point is it was in self defense. You could even argue his moms murder was an act of emotion too. Murray maybe not so much that was contemplated well in advance.
Because he was created out of abuse and evil, he wasn’t just born evil. His pos mom got with an abusive guy that gave little Arthur brain damage and caused all his issues. And then you can go a step farther and not even blame the mom because she clearly also had mental issues so you could blame the universe itself for being so cruel. In the end the Joker isn’t a product of chosen evil, but evil that was put upon him
@@Randomyoutubecommenter true. But the end scene with him in the ward again suggests the entire movie was in his head. Hes still the joker. But bruce being a little boy may not have been real. IE he created an entire storyline to how he created batman.
*I LOVE OLD SPICE!*
When it was revealed that Joker was hallucinating being in a relationship with the girl next door this dude in my theater laughed sooooo hard. I’ll never forget that lol.
Such a Joker-esque reaction. Kudos to that guy lol
Same here. There was a dude laughing the whole time at parts that no one else found funny
@@theredsharkbro think he joker……
I have an autistic son, and we were at the theater for Marley and me and right at the sad part in a completely quiet full theater he busted out laughing. He had no idea what was going on he doesn't even watch the movies, he just started laughing.
Mark Hamill, Heath Ledger, and Joaquin Phoenix are my three favorite Jokers. Every Joker is different but I loved what Joaquin brought to the role. He showed how cruel the world can be and what it can do to a person. Love this movie
Yeah!! Good movie and a good take on it. To see the down trodden, neglected man snap. Quality acting too
Mark Hamill- the comedian
Heath Ledger- the anarchist
Joaquin Phoenix- the psychopath
Jack Nicholson- the gangster
There is one more, but we don’t talk about him.
@@Saint_of_Devils yep lol
@@Saint_of_Devils Cesar Romero
I talk about him! JEROME! The showman!@@Saint_of_Devils
The blood smile at the end by Joker is top 5 greatest scenes in cinema 💯
My favorite shot of the entire movie. Gave me chills opening night. I stood and applauded. Only time I've actually done it in a movie.
@@brianattyberryIndeed. Gave me chills as well.
The crazy thing is how relatable the message, the story and all of it truly is.
Don't ignore or downplay your friends and family's mental health struggles.
Yah, I'm like the joker frfr
Just wanted to give guys some information about this movie and the Joker, this movie is NOT connected to any Batman movie that you've previously seen. The director Todd Phillips wanted to create his own origin story for Joker, the Joker doesnt actually have a true origin story in DC comics over the years the Joker has had different origins, what was correct was how Bruce Wayne parents were killed but they werent killed by some guy pretending to be the Joker from a group at some riot, based on the comics Bruce Wayne's parents were actually killed by a low level criminal named Joe Chill
Did Todd Phillips want to create aan origin story? If I remember correctly, he set out to make a specific type of film bu couldn't get the backing he needed so he threw in some tidbits from comics since comic book movies were still booming. This movie is really about a man struggling with mental and emotional health issues while living in a toxic society that fosters those issues. Other than a few name drops from comics, the movie is heavily inspired by Taxi Driver and King of Comedy, hence Deniroe having the role he has here.
This movie also is set in Elseworlds, canon with the usual comics is irrelevant, its kind of an alternate universe
This is now called DCELSEWHERE UNIVERSE.
Joaquins acting leaving Asia speechless at the end lol
The condition that the joker has is called a Pseudobulbar affect (the laughing part). It's caused by severe trauma to the brain which he obviously sustained during his beatings with his mom. They're not generally dangerous, but due to his other trauma, it can push you over that edge. It's a lesson that we should at least try to be cordial to people even if you don't like them because you don't know what's going on in their life.
As a kid who was bullied in school, I understand why Arthur became the joker. I would never take it to this extreme, but a person can only take so much and eventually they're gonna snap.
Relate. And cheers to all of us who survived without snapping, and also to those who didn't.
Relatable
Did you guys get that his "relationship" with the neighbor was just his imagination?
I was wondering if that one might have gone over their heads because they didn’t show the scene where she finds him in her apartment and tells him to get out. Great reaction though!
But did he kill her?
@@sass1511director said no, so, no.
@@sass1511why would he do that?
@@jacobruiz7642 because he's a killer? I mean, he did kill at least 6 other people.
It was fitting that DeNiro was in this movie. To me, this movie reminds me of "Taxi driver". Basically a characters slow decent into madness.
Taxi Driver and King of Comedy are the inspiration for this movie. The few name drops from comics are just to draw in a general audience that otherwise wouldn't have seen this movie. It would have ended up as an under seen cult following movie like Requiem for a Dream because it makes you face something about people and society that people don't like to face. This is about a man struggling with mental and emotional health issues while living in a society that fosters those issues.
Hey guys. Yeah and let's not forget that Martin Scorsese was in DeNiro's ear throughout the making of this film as an Executive Producer. Imagine Scorsese comes to the set and tells Todd Philips, "I think that should be over here, and put the camera here for exterior stable and only use 1970s cars"... What would you do?? Sheeyet, I'm doin' whatever the man says! Great job by Todd Philips for following through. Hard to believe he's the guy in OLD SCHOOL that rings the doorbell and says, "I'm here for the gang-bang?" 😂
@@FRED_CALI”Hel-lo” as the unsuspecting boyfriend opens the door 😂
Mer-Ray!! Lol
@@FRED_CALIOh was he? I didn't know that...
This is a stand alone interpretation of The Joker and not necessarily the Joker of any of the past Batman movies or those Jokers.
It just uses the name Joker to get eyes on it. Just like the few name drops of Waynesx Arkham Asylum, Crime Alley... If they didn't use the popularity of Batman, this movie would have been an under seen cult following movie like Requiem of a Dream. This movie is really inspired by Taxi Driver and King of Comedy. It's really about a guy struggling with mental and emotional health issues while living in a society that fosters those issues.
Agreed. This may have been a better made movie, with an excellent performance, but when I want to see Joker stuff I'll watch "The Killing Joke" or "Return of the Joker". I have more empathy for that version, while also wanting his downfall.
I’m glad you loved this film.watching Asia realize how much she loved Phoenix acting, and was like WTF.!..quote “I completely believe him”. Love the channel.
I remember watching this for the first time and once the film was over...it just set really heavy. They did a fantastic job with this film. the acting...the writing...everything. so depressing and yet it has some hard truths about mental health and society and everything.
I absolutely love this film, Joaquin played Joker so well. I felt huge sympathy for him in this and was glad when he became the villain he became, it was almost like everyone and everything around him deserved the bad side of him for the way they treated him. Sometimes it's good to bet on the bad guy. Great reaction as usual guys, really enjoyed this ❤
This so much😢
This was the first R Rated DC movie to be nominated for 11 Oscars including Best Picture, but won for Best Actor Joaquin Phoenix and Best Original Score.
It made $1 billion dollars at the box office. When the film was released it drew a lot if controversy , regarding people who suffer mental health issues as they are viewed as heroes for a great cause.
David Fincher saw the film and said it was an attack on a very serious matter.
@@wanderlustaesthete4117 Watchmen wasnt nominated for any Oscars
@@wanderlustaesthete4117watchmen was kinda expected to be R iirc
@@wanderlustaesthete4117they said it was the first r rated dc movie to be nominated for an Oscar, not that it was the first r rated dc movie
@@wanderlustaesthete4117 In spirit, Watchmen is less DC than Deadpool is MCU.
@@wanderlustaesthete4117 I know you are right, I was just hoping to put distance between "regular" DC and Watchmen based upon my own biases.
This movie builds and builds to the ending and boy does it deliver. Those last few scenes are incredible. Especially the end with him on the car hood. For sure a best actor. Phoenix carried this thing.
Just to clear up the confusion, this is not a part of the Batman stories that you’ve seen. This was meant to be a completely separate movie from the others, so they aren’t really connected. This is just basically their take on the origin of Joker.
If you watch it it does show inside of Batman as a young kid so yeah it's the beginning of the Joker when he was the beginning so it does be related
No, it is a loose interpretation of events, most of which are happening in the Joker's mind, therefore it does not relate.@@paulahaney9104
Such an incredible performance. I wanted to dislike him but instead found pity. It’s awful what humans do to each other…on both sides
Nope. Just one side.
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@@HowToEatChihuahua That profile pic will never fail to make me laugh. Lmao
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The way they portray mental instability, irrationality, and impulsivity is so so so good. It also does a good job showing how people can stand behind something that is so clearly bad yet justify it in their minds. As well as some very slight political notions about rich vs poor. The way that two psychos can be created by different circumstances. Arthur/Joker is a product of a mentally ill mother and a society that has judged and treated him a certain way due to his own condition and it crushed his soul and made him hate to the point where he was going to kill himself. Instead he turned his rage against the world and by doing so created another psycho in Bruce Wayne/Batman. Arthur's actions and obsession with the Wayne family lead to the deaths of Thomas and Martha Wayne. Bruce (presumably) becomes Batman and uses his own hatred against those who remind him of the person who took his parents from him.
Well said👍
I'd say the political notions are more than "very slight." this movie strikes me as a warning to the 1%...they can only thumb their noses to the poor and downtrodden for so long before the guillotines come out.
Oh. speaking of dancing , Asia and B.J watch the music video "Party man" by Prince🤩🤩🤩! The film The Joker is 🔥🔥🔥🔥!
To be honest, I think I need to place it in my TOP 3 movies ever. It's genius. Yes, pure genius.
Yes. Phoenix lost a lot of weight in order to play the role. Given that the Joker is often portrayed as a very lanky if not awkwardly postured individual, Phoenix is something of a method actor he takes his roles very seriously. That said, after the film he gained a lot of weight back and expressed regret over putting his body through it and decided he'd be less inclined to take on roles in the future that would put so much strain on his physical state.
Batman's origin is always more or less the same, but there are subtle nuances each time the story gets retold. In some the Joker has been responsible for his parents deaths, in others, he's not even a factor. Joker's origin on the other hand has always been somewhat more cryptic and open to interpretation. Something that was played with by Nolan in The Dark Knight with the joker constantly telling the story about how he got his scars, but not giving the same story each time. In some iterations he's been a low level street thug who was always a bit crazy and finally broke into bigtime crime. In other's he has been an innocent bystander who met with an unfortunate accident that found him in a vat of chemicals that bleaches his skin and alters his brain, and in others he's been a gangster crime boss that just liked the aesthetic of the joker look. There are many continuities even within the comics and they all add their own little spins to things in order to keep ideas fresh. We're talkin' about characters that have been made, and remade several times over. Each time books are passed on to another author and artist to continue, they tend to want to leave their own signature upon the comic whether it is in the narrative style, the art, or the tone of the book. While there have been issues that go into some detail about the Joker's origins, this movie has been the first deep dive into the driving forces of the character. That said, it is not intended to be conflated with the greater DC universe as a tie in film. or any sort of prequel to a future Batman film. It is the Joker's story and his story alone as sort of an expose of the character. Of course all of this has given plenty of people a lot to talk about in terms of its place in canon, and the merits of the film being based on a comic character yet not being a comic book movie. Sometimes art is just art though, and that's life.
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It's a masterpiece. Every shot could be imagined as being a frame in a comic book. Every shot could be a poster for the movie. Joaquin Phoenix...WOW just WOW.
Joaquin Phoenix did a fenomenal job playing Joker. For me Heath Ledger was the best Joker ever. However...Jaoquin got so close to him, I literally felt the character, I felt like it was him but older, the body language, every performance Joaquin did is just a brilliant work. When he got an oscar at the end of his acceptance speech, an emotional Phoenix said: "Really, I'm standing here on the shoulder's of my favourite actor - Heath Ledger. Thank you. "
Mate phoenix de throned him or both are equal sorry but phoenix can't be below
@@_SteelRainwrong LOL
I believe you guys watched Gladiator. Joaquin Phoenix was Commodus in that movie as well. He really is a great actor!
"AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!"
Real Talk : watch how we talk and treat people, because you just never know what people are capable of. Respect
You two did realize that all the times he was with the girl down the hall was imagined, right? She was the only one nice to him and stood by him, and he imagined the whole thing just like he imagined the first time on the show and the comedy show going well. He wanted so much for someone to be there for him, so he made up a relationship in his mind.
This movie is an absolute masterpiece. Joaquin played this perfectly.. and Asia said it best when she mentioned how believeable he was. A lot of us can relate to how Arthur feels in this movie. A beautiful work, for sure.
Lots of people miss the fact that he almost shoots himself on the train after he kills the 1st 2 guys, but then decides to go after the 3rd guy instead. He's teetering on the edge of suicide for much of the movie.
We’re all products of our environment. Joker is no different. This film was so good.
People overcome their environment all the time. You just have to have the will break those boundaries and not become a victim.
@@tuffs4it it’s not about overcoming anything, it is what molds you into who you are. No child is born evil.
A loving mother, a caring friend or a welfare system that cares for you. All of these things could’ve changed Jokers trajectory.
But for stupid people I guess it’s easier to see things in black and white, good or bad, perpetrators and victims. It seems you missed the theme of this entire movie.
@@Bananananaser I see you're not to bright, so I'll explain a couple things for you. What I said in no way contradicts the film. Nothing your followup statement said contradicts my statement.
Your original post was an absolute statement (which means there can be no other outcome). In other words, someone born in a bad environment will always be a victim unable to change. I was pointing out that it has been proven over and over (in real life) that people who grew up in the worst of situations and with everything going against them have indeed overcome the product of their environment while many do not. We do not see this in the film because Arthur has no will to change be it through a personality trait, mental capacity or both. Most of the film (if not all of it--depending on your interpretation) is Arthur's sick fantasy where he always comes out on top. Why would he want to change?
But hey! You insinuated (wrongly) I see things in "black and white" (when it was actually yourself who used the simplest terms to begin with) and am stupid, so that makes you the winner. Congratulations!
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@@tuffs4it That we are products of our environment is by, I would assume, all psychiatrists considered a FACT. That statement does not mean you have no control over your own life though.
Learn to empathize.
@@tuffs4it you saw a film about a person being isolated, mentally and physically abused for his entire life to the point where his mind breaks. And your takeaway is “don’t be a victim”
That’s cold.
😆Asia: Is he .. dancing?? *whispers* 😳 he's dancing. LOL
Love Joaquin since the movie "Parenthood;" he never misses when acting. This was a great take on the Joker. He made the Joker more human- something we never really see in other versions. Thanks for picking this guys-you're getting us ready for the scream fest next month, yay!
I remember watching this movie for my 1st out of 3 times in the cinema, when a family of mom, dad, older sister and younger brother sat on the row in front of me. In the first scene, where Arthur laughs out of pain and despair, the young boy (around 10 years old) whispered to his mom "I don´t think, that I wanna watch this movie". The family sat still for another 5-10 minutes and then left with a sad boy.
This movie is not a superhero/supervillain movie. It´s a social study of men at the very rock bottom of society, who suffers in silence and experiences nothing but alienation from the world around them. I am so happy, that Hollywood had the courage to make this movie, because I think, it´s the most relevant and important movie of the last 20 years for the forgotten but suffering men of our Western World.
This was a fantastic movie. Saw this twice in the theater and it was great each time. Packed theater both times too. I know there's a second one coming but, man, I just can't imagine it being as good as this. 🐾
38:46 that is probably the most genuine reaction I have ever seen to that scene. BJ’s reaction was priceless.
16:43 let’s not forget, we’re seeing the story through Arthur’s eyes
I don’t think Randall ever ACTUALLY gave him the gun, I think he imagined the whole thing after stealing it.
If he hadn't given him the gun he would have zero reason to go and visit Arthur, he didn't have any genuine concern for him, he just realised he was culpable after giving him the gun and was hoping to somehow convince Arthur to change his story to clear his name.
WOW I just realized that Arthur is wearing the same clothes as Bruce when he meets him for the first time at the gate, like they're part of the same reflection!!!!
It's a great performance. He won the Best Actor Academy Award because of his brilliant interpretation.
"Look like he finna get in that bad boy" LOLOLOL the fridge scene was so weird but that comment was hilarious
Another thing to take in consideration is that the nice version of Thomas Wayne is the perspective Bruce Wayne as a child whereas the Jokers point of view maybe how Gotham viewed Thomas Wayne...the Truth could be somewhere in the middle
"All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am.
One. Bad. Day."
~Joker~
I can only imagine what a tremendous actor his brother River Phoenix would have been, RIP, but Joaquin came a long way.
I remember watching this in the theater and distinctly remember that when the movie ended and everyone was leaving there was silence. Nobody was talking, they were just stunned.
Compare this movie to all of the rest of the stuff that is being put out these days. The fact that it got produced gives me hope that we might actually see dark, gritty, thoughtful films like this in the future.
The way this movie was shot was absolutely gorgeous as well. Every scene was a piece of art.
The ambiguity of so many things in the movie (what was real and what did Arthur imagine), the acting, the cinematography, everything. It is just so much to process.
Loved it.
His experiences with the girl from his apartment building were mostly imagined. That's what those short clips were about after he read his mom's medical book: memories of him hanging out with the girl, and then memories of the same places with just him.
15:20 there was a Batman animated series that was for kids however if you read some of the comics they are very dark. The movie was largely influenced by "The Killing Joke" which has a lot of adult themes in it.
Hell yes!!! Just watched it the other day too 🙏🏻🙏🏻 love the channel!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Some people love this movie, others hate it - but the one thing that is inarguable is that Joaquin Phoenix gave an incredible performance. It really gives you insight into the psychotic mind of The Joker.
True. Watching this movie once was enough for me. I've never been a big Batman fan because it's too dark, and this movie is the darkest of any I've seen in that world, but I agree Phoenix's performance was stellar.
Same. I love The Dark Knight though. Who doesn't? This movie is interesting enough to watch once, but that's it.@@xzonia1
Philistines love it.
It blow the mind of those who are used watching Fast and Furious and Captain Marvel.
For insufferable cinema snobs like me, it’s garbage.
IMO, a great performance doesn't mean much, if anything, if the plot and/or characters are not well done. Joker is a weird mishmash of better films, and was utterly vapid to me.
I watched this film with a live orchestra playing all the music, to say it was something different is an understatement. Phoenix acted his arse off in the film and was very deserving of all the accalaids he got for his "Joker". This film is phenomenal!! Great reaction guys 👍👊🇬🇧
I'm so fuckin jealous
what the hell i wanna see a movie like that that sounds amazing.
Was absolutely awesome, my nephew watched Stars Wars A New Hope like that. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a LORD OF THE RINGS showing
When he dance the first time afther the 3 killings in the sub...
Thats his Swane dance. He became the black swane over there🖤
His dark site is comming out.
God i love this movie. My mom was mentally ill and his laugh ... so the same.. i always cry when i see this masterpiece
AWWWW YEAHHHHHHHHHH! This movie is badass!!!! Saw it 6 times in the theater
"Is he dancing? He's dancing!" Haha yall funny af, subbed
There's a meme out there about how Bruce Wayne (or his father) would do more for Gotham by giving their money away to the poor rather than be a vigilante - and this movie pretty much shows that. Imagine if Arthur got actual help, and if the rioters didn't also feel stepped on by the world, if Bruce's dad hadn't looked down on them all, etc. It could have prevented Joker from becoming Joker.
The staircase was a metaphor for Arthur going up into sanity until he finally descends into Madness.
I love this movie and Joaquin is one of my favorite actors!
Phoenix kills this role. What I like about how he plays it is that everything he does is off. It's like he lives on a different wavelength compared to people around him, so they get freaked out by him. And because he tries to fit in, make jokes, friends, and be nice, but the world around him doesn't reciprocate because of how weirded out everyone is, so eventually he lashes out. It's a great Joker origin story.
From the same director as Old School and The Hangover, haha. The anarchy was there all along.
The scene where he punched the clock off the wall wasn't in the script. The directors thought he broke his hand. He went all in for this role
Thomas Wayne said something incredibly ignorant and insensitive. He did not deserve to die for that, but this movie is very good at making you "understand" why someone would kill him.
In comic terms, this was the absolute perfect portrayal of the "clown prince of crime" joker. There are three version. Clown prince is the second. The first was the joker type from batman 66'. The last was basically your true psychopath joker that heath ledger played perfectly. That version was like the first two twisted together.
This right here is art my man kills it as Joker ... can't wait for Joker 2 ❤
An agent if chaos. Joker will always have the last laugh. It explains Bruce's obsession with the clown prince of crime.
“What kinda clown carries a fuckin gun?”
*The kind that lives in the hood! In Gotham City!*
If you don't know this movie is mostly about mental health, and a commentary on how society shapes it, before going into it you're going to be completely caught off guard lol. But yeah it's one of the deepest and the realest movies I've ever seen.
Joker, incredible movie. I loved it. I love you guys ❤❤❤❤❤❤.
The blood smile scene at the end gives me CHILLS
Asia and BJ are so much fun to watch
Jep👍👍👍😀
I just saw this movie five days ago. It blew me away.
Phoenix is levels as an actor I fkn loves him almost as much as I loves y'all ❤
Bruce and Joker may not be biological brothers but they are brothers in MADNESS. Joker is crazy but so is Bruce, the guy dresses up in a batsuit and goes out at night to fight crime. The Joker dresses up in a clown suit to commit crimes.
the media hated this movie and always called it controversial to the point the cops were stationed at the movie theaters. i remember them with assault rifles hanging out when i saw it.
....and that`s how you get an Oscar... !!!! So well deserved... Amazing acting !!
The conversations Joker had with the young mom and her son, didn't happen. Joker imagined/hallucinated those interactions with her. That's why they showed flashbacks with
him and her, then showed just him, by himself in reality. That's also why she was so scared when he was in her apartment, because she had no relationship or interactions with
him since the beginning, on the elevator. Great reaction guys!
Yes, limerence. It's not uncommon in individuals suffering severe trauma. Brilliant twist. Very authentic.
I have severe paranoia and hallucinations due to a very bad long line of abuse and stress. My life is crumbling to dust and all I can do is watch it happen. Everyone expects you to be okay because you’re the one who has to carry them on your shoulders.
Awesome reactions and commentary to the best character study of Joker I've seen so far. I enjoyed riding along with y'all on this one.
One of the details I love about this movie that a lot of people miss is how Arthur is constantly sustaining head injuries throughout the movie, no doubt exacerbating his mental illness. It's easy to overlook because audiences have become numb to violence and Arthur himself seems to stoically have little reaction to it so you almost forget that this poor guy is getting his brain scrambled multiple times a day. It's so much more painful to think about if you know the story of Chris Benoit.
I absolutely love this movie
Fun fact. Or not so fun. Remember when joker's character says if it was him expiring in the street, you'd walk right over him?
He had an older brother River Phoenix who died in the street. And I believe people did walk over him. River Phoenix was in Stand By Me if you want to see him act.
I always wondered if he thought about his brother River when he was saying that line.
One of the best depictions of mental illness captured on film.
What is that...mental illness?
I saw this in the theater when it came out, after I sat in my car for like 10 mins in silence completely stunned and disturbed by this brilliance
I did not see this as both of u did. This to me, was a sad story. Everything Author thought he knew, people he thought he could trust, was all a lie. When the 3 men started to beat him up on the train, he snapped. What u were witnessing in the bathroom after the train was the first signs of Joker immerging. Then finding out about his mom, little by little, Author started to disappear, and Joker take over. That's why he didn't care anymore. He just did whatever he wanted to do on this day. He was going to do what he planned anyway. But when face to face with his idol, making fun of him, he changed his plan. So, that is why I find it sad.
While doing radio interviews 30 years ago in Omaha, I got to meet for a minute, Ceaser Romero, the Joker from the Batman series in the 60s.
Arthur killing the three people on the subway, started the riots with the joker masks... And then he killed Murray. That's when joker became famous
The awakening of a murderer, a psychopath discovered his abilities with pride. Euphoria and release bringing extract and joy and laughter.
Don’t ever call someone a junkie, don’t call them crazy, don’t call them anything but what they say their name is. Basic human respect, that’s what “Joker” is secretly preaching. Also my wife and I saw this shit in theater and we laughed so hard when nobody else did. If you don’t get a laugh out of Joker letting the little man leave because he’s a good person, then you can’t sit with us 😂
That was so damn cleaver lol! When he was struggling to reach the latch and then he was helped because of pity lol. Loved that so much.
See I laughed once he kissed him. But Joker being Joker the master manipulator, genuinely insane, clown prince of crime that he is. I thought that was deliberate. And he was gonna kill him. So when he let him go that was the "joke" which is just even more brilliant. They give us such uncomfortable scenes and one of the things people do to ease the tension is, laugh. Brilliant, brilliant movie.
@@JitteryJackanapebut it could still be deliberate. Hed know gary wouldve told on him probably which would eventually make him famous one way or another.
@johnblackrose good point. The best thing about Joker as a villain is we can never truly know what he will do next. He is unpredictable and that's what makes him Batmans greatest villain. Not even Joker knows who he is or what motivates him. Which makes him impossible for batman to predict or track down. He is just chaos in human form.
'Signs' came out in 2002...Joaquin looks older because it's been 21 years lmao Plus they've weathered him for the character.
BJ 7 minutes into the reaction, "Is he imagining this?"
Even tho the composer of the score for this movie won an Oscar, the score itself doesnt get enough praise. It's damn near a character in itself. It perfectly depicts the mood of the scene, the environment and Arthur's turmoil as a whole. From the dred to his dancing, which I always equated to his metamorphosis into Joker, it's all perfect. It's just moody af throughout the entire film but when he spread that blood across his smile, it became triumphant and i couldnt be happier for him.
I thought this was a kid movie😂😂😂
The trailer for this movie knocked my socks off.
For the first 90% of it, I found it fascinating. Then they drop the bomb. “Oh by the way, this is a Joker movie!”
Most filmmakers would have put that detail closer to the front….
Every time BJ goes for the popcorn, it makes me want to wash MY hands 😂
Joaquin won an Oscar for that performance. Well deserved.
You guys should do Walk The Line, Joaquin Phoenix played Johnny Cash in that movie and it’s so good. I remember it coming out when I was a kid and it was the first movie I ever saw him in
He’s such a great actor he definitely almost became Johnny Cash, it’s hard for me not to think of them almost simultaneously 🤣
@@NikkieTwixJoaquin Phoenix Met Johnny Cash shortly before Johnny died. Johnny was aware that they were going to make a movie about him and Joaquin Phoenix was his choice to play him.
@@giannag4581 I’m glad he approved of the choice. I can’t see anyone else playing him
Well technically in the comics, Joker has the same ability as Deadpool. He is able to see through the fourth wall. He knows whatever medium he is in. Comics, video games, movies, etc. So I can't confirm this but given the scene flash to Bruce's parents while he is in the asylum, I assume by that point he has awakened that ability and knows that little Bruce will become batman because of him. And that the only people that will get the "joke" is the real life audience watching the movie. Again I can't confirm that as far as the movie goes but if so, it's awesome.
Easily the best Joker personification and film for me.
I'm an old fart and hadn't really intended seeing this movie. Both my grown sons were DC comics fans as children and had seen all the Batman movies. When they saw this one, they talked about it to me until I finally made up my mind to see it--they talked me into it. I can't say if it was the best Joker personification for me, but I found it a powerful film. Was so sad for Arthur, his plight really pulled me in and even when he became violent there was still a part of me that felt empathy for him. That's how good Joaquin Phoenix's acting was. 😢
@@Doxymeister I fully understand where you are coming from. I have to admit that I'm not too fond of larger-than-life figures in DC/Marvel movies. At some point it loses it's charm. What I liked about this Joker is the re-humanization of the anti-hero. The ambiguity and duality makes it far more interesting than your average bad guy causing mayhem. The superb acting and social commentary just adds to the movie's brilliance while the characterdevelopment is the main thing that carries the movie.
@@bemindful924 Cheers!
A bit of good visual storytelling is in the therapist's office: you can see the office is small, cramped, and flooded with paperwork in boxes; she probably went into her career wanting to do good, but there's only so much you can help like 30 patients at the same time with one session every other week. As she said, they don't care about the mentally ill, so why would they care about the therapists assigned to them?
As I've said in many a comments section, THE JERK was my life story. Then I lived long enough for it to become JOKER. 🤡
I'm so glad you guys did this one! Comic books can be very dark. They are graphic stories- Just like any book but given in smaller bite sized pieces with lots of pictures to illustrate the story. Now Asia knows that a comic book movie can be high drama and not just laughs and I'm thrilled for the door this opens for you both! 😆
I think comic books became so popular with people at the time because back then many people didn't have a good education and may not necessarily be able to read well (or at all). Comics gave those people the same escapism that people who could read enjoyed.
"I'm waiting for the punchline."
"There is no punchline."
I really, really love this movie. An easy 9/10 rating from me. That said, Heath Ledger is the best cinematic Joker (with Jack Nicholson as a close second). The Joker is a thug and gangster, his first priority is to commit crime to make money and murder is a happy byproduct of his profession. Arthur is a murderer, but he's not a gangster.
Fun Fact: The premiere of the film at the Venice Film Festival drew an eight-minute standing ovation. It went on to be the first R-rated movie in history to make $1 Billion worldwide. There's a sequel in the works with Lady Ga Ga set to co-star.
Historical Fact: Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) performs stand up at 'Pogo's Comedy Club' in Gotham. Pogo The Clown was the stage name of real life professional clown and serial killer John Wayne Gacy. Typically, Gavy would lure a victim to his home and dupe them into donning handcuffs on the pretext of demonstrating a magic trick.
Medical Fact: Joaquin Phoenix called perfecting the Joker's laugh the toughest part of playing the character. He also sought to portray a character with which audiences could not identify. Pathological laughter is a real-life disorder which causes that the patient suffers of uncontrollable laugh attacks as response for tense or stress situations. Although it isn't usual, these attacks can stop the normal flux of oxygen to the brain or lungs, causing hypoxia or even asphyxia in the patient.
Asia and BJ both of you are my favorite on UA-cam to watch reactions from you are the goats. You couldn't ask for two more pleasant people. I appreciate you entertaining me for about 2 years now!
Joaquin earned his Oscar for this one and I can’t wait for JOKER 2 to see more of Joaquin and Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn!
We had to go and watch his Oscar speech. Great speech!! Kuddos to Joaquin Phoenix!!! 💯
48:30 the therapist said he was on 7 different meds, so before when he was admitted to the psych floor they figured out what works for him (in their mind) so they saw him as stable enough for discharge