I am glad you went over kind of the basic's between the 2 motors and how they work. I have been meaning to do a video of how a brushed motor in a slot car works. I was surprised when watching videos that a lot do not know. Thanks for the video of the brushless motors. I want to buy a few of the KC kits and install on a couple of my scratch built cars along with a standard off the shelf car.
Hi Jim, slot car racer on routed tracks only, building slot cars and drag slot cars. for 42 years. in Australia.🤓1/24 =1/32= 1/24 drag cars top fuelers.
Slot It should make a pod for brushless motor and release a 21,000 rpm or 23,000 rpm The light weight cehtered motor Would be, 3D make up and sell 👍 I really liked your story of these motors, thank you
A little over 10 years ago i used a brushless motor in a slot car. I used off the shelf R/C equipment and drove it with a R/C radio. The drawback was if the car came out of the slot i had to reset the motor controller when it lost power from the track.
A great encapsulation and really something which is in out of left field with modern 1:32 scale racers. I imagine someone like NSR will need to pioneer with something equivalent to the $18 motors for this series and produce motor pods and as well, in due course, bespoke new chassis and bodies which are dialed in to the weight and power . Whilst we may today expect a ready to race package to retail in something along the order of the $150 bracket they could well deliver affordable access and a whole new class and a big boost in the hobby moving forward? Ok, it has taken from the year I was born to where we are now to get this far but let's see.
I use a lot of brushless in other hobbies. Something to note. Expect to see higher temperatures. Your choice of gears and the torque extracted will determine this. They can easily get hot enough to warp plastic mounts. Personally I probably will not go to brushless for my slots. I am already doubling the price on most brushed cars just to get them digital capable and in racing form.
I see your showing an out runner Brushless . What about inrunners ,I ran those in RC cars .eg a solid can that has a rotor instead of an armature and the wires are fixed inside the can. I was told they have more RPMs but less torque and they seemed to be generaly a lot thinner in diameter .More like a brushed motor. They might not yet make Inrunners for Slot cars. I just thought they are more similar to the brushed motors already made.
Not a problem Jim . It was more I thought small inrunners would be an easier fit for 1/32 slot cars .But as Ive seen dicussed on WW slot car chat possibly not needed as yet and still more expensive than brushed .
With a brushless motor, why not have one with the shaft the length of your axle and just mount the wheels straight to it, with the motor sitting about we’re a dif would on a normal car? Doing away with the gears altogether.
Simple reasons : with direct drive you can’t choose gearing to match demands of different race circuits, plus the motor response would likely feel horrible, and braking making be insufficient. Plus if you have a crash and bend an axle with gearing it should not damage the motor. With direct drive you’d have killed your motor. 2 dollar axle or 25 dollar motor…hmm let me think.
I am glad you went over kind of the basic's between the 2 motors and how they work. I have been meaning to do a video of how a brushed motor in a slot car works. I was surprised when watching videos that a lot do not know. Thanks for the video of the brushless motors. I want to buy a few of the KC kits and install on a couple of my scratch built cars along with a standard off the shelf car.
Very informative video Jim. It answers my general questioning of the what and why of brushless motors. Thanks, Gene.
Hi Jim, slot car racer on routed tracks only, building slot cars and drag slot cars. for 42 years. in Australia.🤓1/24 =1/32= 1/24 drag cars top fuelers.
Great video Jim, I love what you do!
Great informative vid. Next, please have a full segment concerning 1/24 scale DRAG RACING slot cars. (brush & brushless differences) Thanks.
Slot It should make a pod for brushless motor and release
a 21,000 rpm or 23,000 rpm
The light weight cehtered motor
Would be, 3D make up and sell 👍
I really liked your story of these motors, thank you
Excellent video. Thanks Jim.
Great video Jim, going to have to try a 1/32 build.
A little over 10 years ago i used a brushless motor in a slot car. I used off the shelf R/C equipment and drove it with a R/C radio. The drawback was if the car came out of the slot i had to reset the motor controller when it lost power from the track.
good stuff thanks
A great encapsulation and really something which is in out of left field with modern 1:32 scale racers. I imagine someone like NSR will need to pioneer with something equivalent to the $18 motors for this series and produce motor pods and as well, in due course, bespoke new chassis and bodies which are dialed in to the weight and power . Whilst we may today expect a ready to race package to retail in something along the order of the $150 bracket they could well deliver affordable access and a whole new class and a big boost in the hobby moving forward? Ok, it has taken from the year I was born to where we are now to get this far but let's see.
There are already RTR brushless car available in that price range
Bravo, Jim
Nice video. Brakets are sold to allow the brushless motors to be parrallel to the axels in flexi chassis.
I use a lot of brushless in other hobbies. Something to note. Expect to see higher temperatures. Your choice of gears and the torque extracted will determine this. They can easily get hot enough to warp plastic mounts. Personally I probably will not go to brushless for my slots. I am already doubling the price on most brushed cars just to get them digital capable and in racing form.
Are there brushless HO motors? Pros and cons?
None that I know of. The ecomm would have to be very small
Thanks 🙂
Brushless dc motor is an ac motor where a circuit converts dc to ac to run the motor and control speed.
I see your showing an out runner Brushless .
What about inrunners ,I ran those in RC cars .eg a solid can that has a rotor instead of an armature and the wires are fixed inside the can.
I was told they have more RPMs but less torque and they seemed to be generaly a lot thinner in diameter .More like a brushed motor.
They might not yet make Inrunners for Slot cars. I just thought they are more similar to the brushed motors already made.
I didn't show in runners because they are not used in slot cars to my knowledge. Thought it would make it more confusing.
Not a problem Jim .
It was more I thought small inrunners would be an easier fit for 1/32 slot cars .But as Ive seen dicussed on WW slot car chat possibly not needed as yet and still more expensive than brushed .
I bet Stu Koford is soiling his draws. I say stick a dagger in those expensive brushed open motors. The cost over the last 15 years has gotten sick.
Working on it for 1/32... Probably roll out in a couple months
ECOM? I know no one calling them ECOM, ESC or electronic speed controller is the common name. Thanks for sharing.
With a brushless motor, why not have one with the shaft the length of your axle and just mount the wheels straight to it, with the motor sitting about we’re a dif would on a normal car? Doing away with the gears altogether.
No gears, no power loss.
Simple reasons : with direct drive you can’t choose gearing to match demands of different race circuits, plus the motor response would likely feel horrible, and braking making be insufficient. Plus if you have a crash and bend an axle with gearing it should not damage the motor. With direct drive you’d have killed your motor. 2 dollar axle or 25 dollar motor…hmm let me think.
Great video! Well explained. Thank you very much!