using a white case and black verticle mount shows us exactly what goes where. white on white or black on black wouldn't have the contrast to make it clear how things fit. Mabye not the finished product, but for teachng and example, that was the best choice.
Indeed! Ya beat me to saying this. XD Guys like Jay, when they're NOT doing pure aesthetic builds, really should realize that highly contrasting colors for parts/case really does stand out and makes things much easier to see for the viewers. A happy accident here it seems, but hopefully Jay sees these comments and makes such simple adjustments in future.
That’s actually a really good point. I don’t know how many times I’ve bought something and realise it’s incompatible because of some tab or mounting point hidden due to marketing photos and/or poor instructions.
Just commenting to say that "Jay finds weird/interesting accesory online and tries it" is one of my favourite kind of videos on this channel. Keep them comming!
I would like to see 2 topics being adressed in a future video. 1. What to do with any pcie Expansion card. 2. What are the temperatures like when you mount a fan underneath the gpu so its blowing additional air thru the heatsink of the vertical mounted gpu.
I have the white version of this, I've been using it for my strix 3090 in a white 011d xl case for about a year now. my gpu temps are no better or worse even with 3 fans still on the bottom for intake, but my motherboard chipset temps did come down from the gpu being away from the motherboard.
I have a P8 and I have a vertical GPU, with a vertical Sound card and a Vertical NVMe card for my business. All i had to do was buy 2 PCIe risers, and they are VERY flexible. Which allowed me to give it a slight bend without a crease. It's been working great for about 3 years so far.
Vertical Mounted 4090 owner here, 1. depends on the case, the Thermaltake CTE C750 Air you can occupy all PCI-e slots if GPU is in the vertical float position. 2. temps will change when fans are aiding the GPU, especially hot spot temps, since the hotspot is the backside of chip and is transferred to the back-plate.
I have a hyte y60 with fans blowing up through the gpu. Didn't really help until I put some additional heatsinks on the gpu backplate. As there was space, and they're not visible, I thought I may as well!
@@TheMerce101 The Y60/Y70's airflow is slightly restricted. It was a case I was considering but then I saw Thermaltake's CTE C750 Air and plan on getting that once I have cash to drop on Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO for Asus Tuf RTX 4090 and a crap ton of new fans. Currently I have the Lian Li Lancool 3, 3 fans blowing up from the bottom and it helps, I even tested a fan directly behind the card using a 3D printed PCI bracket for a 120mm slim fan. Reduced hot spot by 10c.
Used this in my wife's pc build. Honestly, worked pretty well. Only "Surprise" was the need for some right angle display ports to fit through the pci slots of the case. Jay dodged that bullet using a case that doesn't have metal "posts" to reinforce the pci slots area.
Thanks for mentioning this. I am using an old Corsair Sniper case. It's cross bars are riveted in, so with some work I could still make it work, but it is not worth the hassle for me.
Currently using this in my Corsair 4000D. I manage to use normal DP and HDMI cables but I’d never disconnect those cables. It’s too big of a hassle to connect those cables.
Yep it's kind of a undocumented caveat when installing this mount kit. Had to bend one of the slot crossbars in order to properly connect the display port cable (should have done that BEFORE mounting the card, maybe 🙄). But after sliding the card inside a bit, it could be bent back to its original form.
I like that device. With the weight of many cards and the horizontal stress they put on the pcb, it's a great add-on to modernize older cases. I might buy a couple of those kits for stock.
So, this particular mount that you used, is what I used to have in my rig. I found that over time, the card warped the metal of the mount, probably through a combination of heat and weight, and eventually started to droop a little in the case. Concept is great and I always use vertical mounts on my GPUs, but there are better-built mounts available.
me too. i've been using this vertical mount with my 4080 in my phanteks nv5 since december with zero issues. i tried like 3 different vertical mounts before i found this one.. highly recommend
@@The-Choo-Choo-Shoe - I've got the first version and the EVO in my 2 rigs. The EVO makes it a bit easier to _unlatch_ the video card. With the original, if you don't use the supplied PCIE-3 riser cable (in my case a LINKUP PCIE-4 riser cable) with the protrusion out the side it is fiddly. I also think the way EK offering mounts is very sturdy utilising the RHS motherboard mounts for triangulation.
@@The-Choo-Choo-Shoe yea you're right because it screws into 2 of the side mobo standoffs.. But both are sturdy enough, my case I have a huge gigabyte 4080, and would prefer adjustability with the Cooler Master one, especially in my case because I'm running a huge 60mm radiator WITH tubing running to the back of the case.. I'm literally able to adjust the mount so it sits between the rear and front tube, literally MM's to spare
I have a V2 from cooler master. And, I can confirm if you have a bottom mounted fan, at least 1, then a vertical mount is very helpful in moving air through the GPU fins much faster. I have a Corsair 4000d with 80mm fan tied to the grill on the PSU shroud and it makes a TON of difference in my case.
I'm using a Phanteks 4.0 Riser with a 3080 and 2 140mm fans attached to the PSU shroud on a 7000D and can confirm the airflow of extra fans helps a lot on temps across both the GPU and CPU/Motherboard/AIO since anything that hits behind the card ends up flowing over the motherboard. I found some magnetic feet with a small frame to attach both 140mm fans to the PSU shroud that really helps pull air from the shroud and drive cage underneath so it keeps airflow going from bottom to top.
I been working with a white Phanteks case with a Phanteks white vertical mount. The mount is sleek but very sturdy. It absolutely ties the case together showing off the sexy vertical VC.
for this setup, an exhaust fan at the bottom will help, else the hot air from the bottom will go up, and the intake fans of the GPU will push it inside the GPU. but the best setup will always be: a "tube" getting fresh air from the front of the case directly to the gpu. so 1 fan will get air from the front panel, the tube will guide the air flow to the gpu so the hot air will not go back to the GPU the other way to have a good air flow is to have a larger heat sink directed to the back, and 2 small fans getting fresh air from the front, the flow go through the heatsink and directly outside the case on the back. like in a server where all the components are aligned to let the air coming from the front to the back.
I have that in my O11 and it honestly made doing my custom loop a lot easier because of the adjustability and when I bought a new gpu I was able to use the same tubes even though my new block had ports in a different spot because of how much you can move it.
Oh cool. I bought that a few months back just to be able to look at my beautiful EVGA 3080Ti. I did notice it ran a tiny bit cooler in games, keeping the same settings, about 3-5C depending on the game. It was a nice added bonus. Bought the white version, in my white H710 tower, looks good to me!
Thanks for show casing this vertical GPU mount. I have seen others and wasn't interested in them due to fitting issues. The designers/engineers of this vertical mount seems to have though-out this issue quite well. Will get this for a new PC build. I didn't expect any improvements in cooling as in-take/exhaust fans/air remained the same. However, I do see a benefit of such mount that the weight of the GPU is no longer on the mobo, thus less stress on the PCI-E mounting port.
I used this kit to mount a Sakura 4070 into my wife's Sakura S400 case. Great adjustability!!! I used only half of the brackets though. I made custom stand offs to hold it in place.
I have this exact vertical mount! It works really really well but I had to cut out some I/O shield dividers from my Corsair 5000D Airflow to be able to mount it perfectly. I love how robust it is and doesn't sag at all with my GIGABYTE 4090 Gaming OC.
just got this mount for my 4080 super AORUS.. it actually does help with the temps!! I have a full tower case and modified the case to allow it to exhaust hot gpu air directly out of the case (only works if you have a blower card that exhausts from the top of the card). great video Jay! been learning from you for years now!
if you need a vertical mount usually depends on the direction of the gpu fins. i dont use one because my gpu has fins that direct air out the front and back, but i would have enjoyed one when i had my 390x because the fins make the air go out the sides and recirculate
I recently used one of these when I needed to upgrade the GPU in my wife's oooold 800D case to a donated 3090 from a friend. The 3090 conflicted with something on the MB, so I raced off to the "Candy Store" (aka MicroCenter) and in the DIY pc parts area ran into a VERY helpful employee who reminded me the case had bars between the slots, and this mount would help us so I could slide the card back towards the front of the case and run the DP cable between the bars to the recessed 3090. GREAT when trying to shoehorn something in as you upgrade bits to keep an older rig alive!
I hate how living in Australia mean we have to pay sooo much more for things like this. It's $33.50 in US and $130 here in Australia.... why aren't we allowed to have nice things???
My guess is the government wants the extra money by over charging to import or they made the cost high so people are more inclined to source things "locally" keeping the money in
I think the whole layout of motherboards and GPUs might have to change. Imagine insteag of an PCIe slot having something like the CAMM2 connector for your GPU. The GPU could now sit so close to the MB, that the GPU cooler could look like an CPU Aircooler. Those standarts for ATX, PCIe and whatever are pretty old. Maybe rethinking this standards could open new possibilitys.
Its only a matter of time before we start making separate cases entirely for just the gpu and dont even put the gpu inside the main pc case. Were already using strimers.
The GPU PCIE5 traces shouldn't be long, I have wondered about having the GPU above the CPU expelling air from the case top at the back, rather than into the RAM/VRM area of the mobo. It would reduce the chance of water cooling leaks running into expensive GPU.
I bought a mount like this years ago and I love it. Mine is aluminum and really compact. It requires you to remove the horizontal slats in between the PCI-e slots (if your case still has them, some new ones don't). In return you don't ever have to care about the monitor cables or GPU length going up by more than a few mm.
Been using mine now for about 4 months, no sag issues with my humongous AMD Powercolor Hellhound 7800 XT card. Very happy with this product. Like Jay mentioned, it is very sturdy and highly adjustable for any case. Fits great in my corsair D4000 airflow case. I Highly recommend it, specially for water cool builds.
That's why I ended up going the route of a cheap brand case(Gamdiaz Neso P1) I wanted to vertical mount for a while and ended up getting that case when i switched over to a 40 series aorus master, and the great thing about the case is there's multiple positions for the riser cable to be screwed to the bottom of the case + I could fit a 420 aio at the back for the i9, so now I have cool air blowing through the aio + have cool air blowing through the graphics card, the reason for me wanting to go with vertical was simple 1. Aesthetics 2. More direct cooling over the graphics card 3. Prevention from possibly cracking the pcb(but gigabyte improved with the later revisions on the pcb design at the latch and using the new 12v2x6). And as Jay mentioned it's always a good thing to have support at 3 contact points, that's why I've also used the factory anti sag holes on the gpu and laser cut a piece of acrylic to support the gpu at the back as well, so now it's secured at the io side,on the bottom at the riser and at the back of the gpu. Now I'm just curious myself if there's any benefits of having the bottom fans blow onto the gpu from underneath and/if it will impact the gpu fans performance as they'll essentially blows into each other
I threw one of these in my 011 since they didn't make the "DLC" vertical anymore in order to prevent the cable on my 4090 from bending. It worked great with getting good temps all around since it didn't completely obstruct a bunch of fans. I love that it kinda goes in just about any case.
I live in a tropical climate and for the last two years only mount GPUs vertically, there is IMHO a clear benefit to it from an airflow standpoint. I combined mine with a Jiushark Diamond CPU cooler and I have a nifty front to back airflow design.
I love Cooler Master designs, I had tons of their stuff, and coolers from back in the day, they really pushed the envelope of design and innovation for years
Looks good. A riser card is useful in some cases. It does complicate the installation of a video card but helpful when the weight of the video card may be causing stress issues on the motherbaord.
Been using the white version of this vertical mount for half a year now and I love it! It allowed me to position it to have an extra fan blowing across the heatsink fins since my card is a dual fan not triple. Temps rarely crack 50*C and that's on ultra cyberpunk 2077.
I literally just bought this kit the other day. I have it in a Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2. I needed something to turn the GPU since my 7900 XTX is water cooled with an Alpha Cool block & Air kept getting trapped when it was mounted normally. With the adjustments the mount has, you still have clearance for smaller PCIE add on cards, like a SATA card or some capture card. It put the weight onto the entire mounting area of the expansion are, so unless your case is flimsy it mounts great! I'll update this if I find something inherently wrong or was overlooked.
This is the exact same mount I use in my h9 flow, and I love it. It easily holds my 4080, and it is really adjustable so I could get excellent airflow. Temps have never broken 65c
Dude this kind of mount would rock with one of the older 2000's cases with a 200mm fan on the side panel, like the Cooler Master HAF932 Those temps would be AWESOME
I mounted my 7900XTX Red Devil vertically (with universal mount LINKUP - AVA Universal Vertical GPU Bracket, look at the Amazon if you want it) year and a half ago, and it lowered 2-3 degrees of GPU :) The main trick is that my case - Corsair 5000D Airflow has 3 intake 120mm fans on the right side, and together with frontal intake fans the main cold airflow inside the case is shifted towards left side, and that's where the GPU is. :) I really suggest to Jay to re-check horizontal-vertical GPU temps with a case with right-side intake fans, like 5000D. The airflow can be shown even in "Smoke test" :)
I'd be very interested in seeing how much moving it closer or further from the tempered glass side panel will affect the temperature, it'd be a very cool video.
Hey Jay, I got myself a Steelcase Gesture during the Memorial Day sale because of the video you made of the chair. I love it, I couldn't believe how heavy it is. Thanks for the review, this chair will last for years!
Imo black part in white case (or white part in black case) is the perfect choice to show/demo the product. Sure, most ppl would buy the matching colour for their build but for the video it's better to have the contrast.
Been using that exact mount for about 6 months now, have to say like you I was shocked at how well built it is. Mine house a 7900 XTX and this version (AMD ref) blows only through top and bottom. It has improved by about 5 degrees since installing this and more importantly never throttles. I can highly recommend this guys, Thanks for sharing Jay
Just purchased one on Amazon for $31 USD! What a great deal. It’s going in my O11D mini to show-off my 4070. I will feel so much better with the card exhausting everywhere BUT the motherboard. Thanks for another informative video guys!
For me, the real benefit of vertical mount is for heavy graphic cards. With some custom one, we can reach the kilogram. Even with enforced PCi-e slots, it's still big for it. A vertical mount put the PCi-e slot on the bottom so we have not this pressure on PCBs.
In my 800d going Vertical (With 3 inches between the fans and the door.) made the my 3080ti temps rise by 8*F. Switched back and temps lowered back down 8*F. Kept it this way for 5+ years now and never looked back.
My big concern would be losing temperature in cases with bottom mounted fans, as now less than half the air would be going on the correct side. When in contrast with a pc case with front blowing fans, regardless of the orientation of the gpu, it's always facing perpendicular to the fans.
I have one with an ASRock 7900xtx aqua on it and it's great!!! I have even been able to move it enough to get to the SSDs behind it and put a cooler on the SSD. Fabulous product
I use this mount with a Strix RTX 4090 OC with no sag for the last 6 months. I did have to use a Velcro to keep it from sliding back when you plug in your cables. My temps got better. NZXT H9 Flow with 3 fans on the bottom.
I’ve had this exact riser for over a year now. I love it! I have a PNY 4090 holds it just fine. And I’m using it inside of a NZXT H9 elite case. Now if only they made a water block for my GPU (the regular PNY 4090)
Ive been using this mount for a year atleast. I have tried several and this one is the best easily .Holds my Founders 4090 perfectly with no sagging unlike most
I started using a vertical mount. Like the video, I really didn't notice much improvement. But then, I don't have the setup Jay has to test both. Having said that, I do tend to agree with what he said about the one side of the GPU, when mounted horizontally, that runs along the motherboard, and how that can cause a bit of air choking. Regardless, I like the looks of a vertical mount, so that's my main reason for having it.
that or fitting a WC 4090 block inside a case LOL Because of the height + the fitting it doesn't fit a lot of case even big one so mounthing this way is the only way
I have been raving about the CM V2 mount since that was launched. Its solid, you can move it all over the place, and yeah, the temps are not night and day, but I found the internal temps were better for the case. Because the airflow is better, the case fans don't ramp up as high.
I have an O11 clone with a 360 rad in the top sucking air up and three 120's sucking air into the rear compartment and just a 360 filter in the case floor. I tested the GPU temps in horizontal and vertical, and vertical showed better temps and higher benchmark averages.
I have the previous model in my 011D and it's been great. The main reason I bought it is because the PSU cables were being crushed between my 3070ti and the glass. Of course a 90 degree adapter would have also worked but I liked the vertical orientation.
The premium phanteks vertical mount with rgb is perfect for my 4090. Sits back away from the glass and keeps temps over 5 degrees cooler compared to horizontal mount and is more secure with the extra support bracket that screws into the back of the GPU.
I'm running this vertical mount in my O11 with Gigabyte RTX4090 Gaming OC for a year now without any problems. This graphics card is so tall, that with power connector on top, I wouldn't be able to connect the 12VHPWR connector, because it would hit the glass when GPU was mounted horizontally. Also no problems with signal integrity when PCI-E gen.4 is enabled - never had any problems booting, artifacting or display blinking. Can recommend.
It would be interesting to see this same test in an airflow focused case with a mesh side panel. Then you can use this adapter to get it as close to the side as possible to get completely fresh air.
I feel like the main benefit to be seen is with mesh/perforated panels since you can then have such close contact with fresh air by moving the GPU closer
ive been looking at that mount for a while and was a little worried about temps on my 7900XT and seeing this makes me feel more comfortable at getting one :)
Great that you made test about that. Just finished my build with a Rtx 4090 vertically mounted in a H6 Flow and until this video I was really unsure if it will reduce performance.
The Yellow was also to give it contrast, When you clean your PC and unplug the GPU, if it's having shorts and micro-arching, the smoke and arching will stain the yellow with black marks.
You can get ver mount with a tilt thats not fixed (magnets hold it down to the case) I have one in mine for ages and gives it so much more space from sides of case for GPU to get more air
I had this for a few months. Worked fine with my air cooled 7900XT. I decided to ditch it when I got a water block for my card. Tubing runs just didn't work out to my liking using the vertical mount. Turned out nicer looking mounted normally.
"Can this mount actually HELP GPU temps?" Well, we don't know because you didn't actually test anything. Did not lock fan speed, did not lock frequency, did not record benchmarks. What the hell was the point?!
There is one other detail I didn't specify at the time about the cooling/venting with my laptop: the air is blown down ⬇ - it's force. Then the air is forced thru the vent where there's a depth in the venting pad before the air gets to the exit of it. Maybe their needs to be a length of space between the vent & the exit. For my laptop, the flow is all downward; starting from the laptop ⬇, thru the cooling pad ⬇, thru the venting pad (with a depth beore the exit) ⬇ - & something about the venting pad is enhancing the cooling. I saw on the NitroSense app.
The @technologyhive uploaded a video about vertical mounts being pretty much the only solution to mounting heavy gpus. Guy fixes gpus for a living and those little stand/support things that come with gpus these days are actually causing bending on the the boards and breaking the solder joints on many cards. Worth the watch imo.
I've been using this mount for about a year. I use it with a EVGA 3080 FTW3 ultra card. The card stays nice and cool. Also the adjustments are nice for this bracket. My Case is the NZXT H6 flow
I've had my RX 6800 vertical mounted for a year plus now and it definitely helps disperse the heat more efficiently, always cold air flowing out top and back exhaust the only heat I get from the card goes straight out the case. TIP: get a right angle extension thought, not a straight extender cable
Used that exact bracket in an Asus P201 MATX case with a AMD Radeon 6950 XT. Ribs on the back of the case blocked the ports so I had to adjust the bracket position to rest more inside the case. This made accessing the two DP difficult. Other interior cabling was cramped and pressed against the bracket resulting in an uneven tilt to the card position... all in all, it worked. Barely. Ended up returning the bracket and restoring the GPU to normal mounting on the MB. In short, your mileage may vary on the utility of this bracket for smaller cases.
I have the same cooler master holder. But I used it to remove the huge weight of 4090 from PCI express slot to prevent sagging or a potential damage to the motherboard. It was enough for me that GPU didn't run hotter in vertical position.
All the adjustments are really nice. Even if you wanted it as close to the motherboard as you could that would be useful for install so you had enough room to get the extension cable in the motherboard. I'm using the NZXT "universal" bracket and it's pretty good. I have a custom loop in mine so the card (6900XT) isn't super heavy, but even still the bracket did sag a bit. I built a little brace between the bottom fans and the bracket out of Legos, lol. Got it perfectly level.
I can see your point i have the hyte y60 and it looks so good but they clearly thought about cooling gpu before doing it as putting fans underneath it in the floor seems really smart and good way to cool it
Logic and thermodynamics dictate that air rises and fluid falls, thus in a heat pipe where there is heat transfer, the hot spot will be at the top - and thus optimal placement would be for the heat pipes to be vertical with the heat generating part at the bottom. The higher the condensation part is from the generating part the higher the temperature difference between the pipe and the outside and thus the greater the heat dissipation which can occur.
using a white case and black verticle mount shows us exactly what goes where. white on white or black on black wouldn't have the contrast to make it clear how things fit. Mabye not the finished product, but for teachng and example, that was the best choice.
Yea, works out well for a demo
Indeed! Ya beat me to saying this. XD Guys like Jay, when they're NOT doing pure aesthetic builds, really should realize that highly contrasting colors for parts/case really does stand out and makes things much easier to see for the viewers.
A happy accident here it seems, but hopefully Jay sees these comments and makes such simple adjustments in future.
That’s actually a really good point. I don’t know how many times I’ve bought something and realise it’s incompatible because of some tab or mounting point hidden due to marketing photos and/or poor instructions.
Just commenting to say that "Jay finds weird/interesting accesory online and tries it" is one of my favourite kind of videos on this channel. Keep them comming!
I would like to see 2 topics being adressed in a future video. 1. What to do with any pcie Expansion card. 2. What are the temperatures like when you mount a fan underneath the gpu so its blowing additional air thru the heatsink of the vertical mounted gpu.
I have the white version of this, I've been using it for my strix 3090 in a white 011d xl case for about a year now. my gpu temps are no better or worse even with 3 fans still on the bottom for intake, but my motherboard chipset temps did come down from the gpu being away from the motherboard.
I have a P8 and I have a vertical GPU, with a vertical Sound card and a Vertical NVMe card for my business.
All i had to do was buy 2 PCIe risers, and they are VERY flexible. Which allowed me to give it a slight bend without a crease. It's been working great for about 3 years so far.
Vertical Mounted 4090 owner here, 1. depends on the case, the Thermaltake CTE C750 Air you can occupy all PCI-e slots if GPU is in the vertical float position. 2. temps will change when fans are aiding the GPU, especially hot spot temps, since the hotspot is the backside of chip and is transferred to the back-plate.
I have a hyte y60 with fans blowing up through the gpu. Didn't really help until I put some additional heatsinks on the gpu backplate. As there was space, and they're not visible, I thought I may as well!
@@TheMerce101 The Y60/Y70's airflow is slightly restricted. It was a case I was considering but then I saw Thermaltake's CTE C750 Air and plan on getting that once I have cash to drop on Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO for Asus Tuf RTX 4090 and a crap ton of new fans.
Currently I have the Lian Li Lancool 3, 3 fans blowing up from the bottom and it helps, I even tested a fan directly behind the card using a 3D printed PCI bracket for a 120mm slim fan. Reduced hot spot by 10c.
Used this in my wife's pc build. Honestly, worked pretty well. Only "Surprise" was the need for some right angle display ports to fit through the pci slots of the case. Jay dodged that bullet using a case that doesn't have metal "posts" to reinforce the pci slots area.
Thanks for mentioning this. I am using an old Corsair Sniper case. It's cross bars are riveted in, so with some work I could still make it work, but it is not worth the hassle for me.
Currently using this in my Corsair 4000D. I manage to use normal DP and HDMI cables but I’d never disconnect those cables. It’s too big of a hassle to connect those cables.
Yep it's kind of a undocumented caveat when installing this mount kit. Had to bend one of the slot crossbars in order to properly connect the display port cable (should have done that BEFORE mounting the card, maybe 🙄). But after sliding the card inside a bit, it could be bent back to its original form.
Guess my Dremel will finally see some use lol
Yea Why no one is mentioning how stupid this design is?
I like that device. With the weight of many cards and the horizontal stress they put on the pcb, it's a great add-on to modernize older cases. I might buy a couple of those kits for stock.
So, this particular mount that you used, is what I used to have in my rig. I found that over time, the card warped the metal of the mount, probably through a combination of heat and weight, and eventually started to droop a little in the case. Concept is great and I always use vertical mounts on my GPUs, but there are better-built mounts available.
What would you recommend over this? I'm in the market for one for an H9 Elite case
I've used various high-end expensive vertical mounts... I've had this for 6 months now in white and it is by far THE best one
me too. i've been using this vertical mount with my 4080 in my phanteks nv5 since december with zero issues. i tried like 3 different vertical mounts before i found this one.. highly recommend
I'd argue the EK-Loop Vertical GPU Holder EVO is better and is way sturdier.
@@The-Choo-Choo-Shoe - I've got the first version and the EVO in my 2 rigs. The EVO makes it a bit easier to _unlatch_ the video card. With the original, if you don't use the supplied PCIE-3 riser cable (in my case a LINKUP PCIE-4 riser cable) with the protrusion out the side it is fiddly. I also think the way EK offering mounts is very sturdy utilising the RHS motherboard mounts for triangulation.
@@The-Choo-Choo-Shoe yea you're right because it screws into 2 of the side mobo standoffs.. But both are sturdy enough, my case I have a huge gigabyte 4080, and would prefer adjustability with the Cooler Master one, especially in my case because I'm running a huge 60mm radiator WITH tubing running to the back of the case.. I'm literally able to adjust the mount so it sits between the rear and front tube, literally MM's to spare
I'm using the same vertical mount. It's great
I have a V2 from cooler master. And, I can confirm if you have a bottom mounted fan, at least 1, then a vertical mount is very helpful in moving air through the GPU fins much faster. I have a Corsair 4000d with 80mm fan tied to the grill on the PSU shroud and it makes a TON of difference in my case.
I'm using a Phanteks 4.0 Riser with a 3080 and 2 140mm fans attached to the PSU shroud on a 7000D and can confirm the airflow of extra fans helps a lot on temps across both the GPU and CPU/Motherboard/AIO since anything that hits behind the card ends up flowing over the motherboard. I found some magnetic feet with a small frame to attach both 140mm fans to the PSU shroud that really helps pull air from the shroud and drive cage underneath so it keeps airflow going from bottom to top.
I been working with a white Phanteks case with a Phanteks white vertical mount. The mount is sleek but very sturdy. It absolutely ties the case together showing off the sexy vertical VC.
I have the black :)
Yup my pc is in my profile picture with the phanteks vertical mount in the phanteks nv7 and it looks good.
for this setup, an exhaust fan at the bottom will help, else the hot air from the bottom will go up, and the intake fans of the GPU will push it inside the GPU.
but the best setup will always be: a "tube" getting fresh air from the front of the case directly to the gpu.
so 1 fan will get air from the front panel, the tube will guide the air flow to the gpu
so the hot air will not go back to the GPU
the other way to have a good air flow is to have a larger heat sink directed to the back, and 2 small fans getting fresh air from the front, the flow go through the heatsink and directly outside the case on the back.
like in a server where all the components are aligned to let the air coming from the front to the back.
White+black parts = oreo if its good ; Skunk if its bad ; Panda if its cute
Thank you for calling me cute but I don’t know you. 😅
I'm not sure what this is about, but Oreo's, yuck!
Orca if its watercooled or Honey Badger if its angry/doesnt care!
Oreoworks
Probably panda, because most parts were probably done in China
I have that in my O11 and it honestly made doing my custom loop a lot easier because of the adjustability and when I bought a new gpu I was able to use the same tubes even though my new block had ports in a different spot because of how much you can move it.
Oh cool. I bought that a few months back just to be able to look at my beautiful EVGA 3080Ti. I did notice it ran a tiny bit cooler in games, keeping the same settings, about 3-5C depending on the game. It was a nice added bonus.
Bought the white version, in my white H710 tower, looks good to me!
Horizontal slide adjustment is a great idea.
Thanks for show casing this vertical GPU mount. I have seen others and wasn't interested in them due to fitting issues. The designers/engineers of this vertical mount seems to have though-out this issue quite well. Will get this for a new PC build. I didn't expect any improvements in cooling as in-take/exhaust fans/air remained the same. However, I do see a benefit of such mount that the weight of the GPU is no longer on the mobo, thus less stress on the PCI-E mounting port.
I used this kit to mount a Sakura 4070 into my wife's Sakura S400 case. Great adjustability!!! I used only half of the brackets though. I made custom stand offs to hold it in place.
Been using this vertical mount from CM with my GPUs for almost 2 years now, and it's the best universal one out there hands down.
I have this exact vertical mount! It works really really well but I had to cut out some I/O shield dividers from my Corsair 5000D Airflow to be able to mount it perfectly. I love how robust it is and doesn't sag at all with my GIGABYTE 4090 Gaming OC.
just got this mount for my 4080 super AORUS.. it actually does help with the temps!! I have a full tower case and modified the case to allow it to exhaust hot gpu air directly out of the case (only works if you have a blower card that exhausts from the top of the card). great video Jay! been learning from you for years now!
if you need a vertical mount usually depends on the direction of the gpu fins. i dont use one because my gpu has fins that direct air out the front and back, but i would have enjoyed one when i had my 390x because the fins make the air go out the sides and recirculate
I recently used one of these when I needed to upgrade the GPU in my wife's oooold 800D case to a donated 3090 from a friend. The 3090 conflicted with something on the MB, so I raced off to the "Candy Store" (aka MicroCenter) and in the DIY pc parts area ran into a VERY helpful employee who reminded me the case had bars between the slots, and this mount would help us so I could slide the card back towards the front of the case and run the DP cable between the bars to the recessed 3090. GREAT when trying to shoehorn something in as you upgrade bits to keep an older rig alive!
I have the same mount and have been happy with it's use for over 6 months now!
I have this exact riser in one of my builds and it’s such a good quality kit.
I hate how living in Australia mean we have to pay sooo much more for things like this. It's $33.50 in US and $130 here in Australia.... why aren't we allowed to have nice things???
I’m right there with ya mate😞
The same happens here in Canada and we share a border with the states. Items tend to double in price just buy Crossing that border.
My guess is the government wants the extra money by over charging to import or they made the cost high so people are more inclined to source things "locally" keeping the money in
In Germany, I paid €45 from Amazon.
Pretty much simillar in Brazil…
I think the whole layout of motherboards and GPUs might have to change. Imagine insteag of an PCIe slot having something like the CAMM2 connector for your GPU. The GPU could now sit so close to the MB, that the GPU cooler could look like an CPU Aircooler. Those standarts for ATX, PCIe and whatever are pretty old. Maybe rethinking this standards could open new possibilitys.
Its only a matter of time before we start making separate cases entirely for just the gpu and dont even put the gpu inside the main pc case. Were already using strimers.
The GPU PCIE5 traces shouldn't be long, I have wondered about having the GPU above the CPU expelling air from the case top at the back, rather than into the RAM/VRM area of the mobo.
It would reduce the chance of water cooling leaks running into expensive GPU.
Stand... Darts??? XD
@@Nareimooncatt whoops
I bought a mount like this years ago and I love it.
Mine is aluminum and really compact. It requires you to remove the horizontal slats in between the PCI-e slots (if your case still has them, some new ones don't).
In return you don't ever have to care about the monitor cables or GPU length going up by more than a few mm.
Been using mine now for about 4 months, no sag issues with my humongous AMD Powercolor Hellhound 7800 XT card. Very happy with this product. Like Jay mentioned, it is very sturdy and highly adjustable for any case. Fits great in my corsair D4000 airflow case. I Highly recommend it, specially for water cool builds.
That's why I ended up going the route of a cheap brand case(Gamdiaz Neso P1) I wanted to vertical mount for a while and ended up getting that case when i switched over to a 40 series aorus master, and the great thing about the case is there's multiple positions for the riser cable to be screwed to the bottom of the case + I could fit a 420 aio at the back for the i9, so now I have cool air blowing through the aio + have cool air blowing through the graphics card, the reason for me wanting to go with vertical was simple
1. Aesthetics
2. More direct cooling over the graphics card
3. Prevention from possibly cracking the pcb(but gigabyte improved with the later revisions on the pcb design at the latch and using the new 12v2x6).
And as Jay mentioned it's always a good thing to have support at 3 contact points, that's why I've also used the factory anti sag holes on the gpu and laser cut a piece of acrylic to support the gpu at the back as well, so now it's secured at the io side,on the bottom at the riser and at the back of the gpu.
Now I'm just curious myself if there's any benefits of having the bottom fans blow onto the gpu from underneath and/if it will impact the gpu fans performance as they'll essentially blows into each other
Thanks for the video Jay...I was concerned about the temps when vertically monuting the GPU. Its all clear now
I threw one of these in my 011 since they didn't make the "DLC" vertical anymore in order to prevent the cable on my 4090 from bending. It worked great with getting good temps all around since it didn't completely obstruct a bunch of fans. I love that it kinda goes in just about any case.
I live in a tropical climate and for the last two years only mount GPUs vertically, there is IMHO a clear benefit to it from an airflow standpoint. I combined mine with a Jiushark Diamond CPU cooler and I have a nifty front to back airflow design.
I have that Cooler Master GPU vertical mount and riser cable. Love it. You can’t appreciate the ROG Strix 4090 without one. 😊
I have the same setup and agree with you 100%. Plus, we don’t have to worry about the heavy ass brick of a GPU bending the PCIe slot!
I love Cooler Master designs, I had tons of their stuff, and coolers from back in the day, they really pushed the envelope of design and innovation for years
Looks good. A riser card is useful in some cases. It does complicate the installation of a video card but helpful when the weight of the video card may be causing stress issues on the motherbaord.
Been using the white version of this vertical mount for half a year now and I love it! It allowed me to position it to have an extra fan blowing across the heatsink fins since my card is a dual fan not triple. Temps rarely crack 50*C and that's on ultra cyberpunk 2077.
I literally just bought this kit the other day. I have it in a Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2. I needed something to turn the GPU since my 7900 XTX is water cooled with an Alpha Cool block & Air kept getting trapped when it was mounted normally. With the adjustments the mount has, you still have clearance for smaller PCIE add on cards, like a SATA card or some capture card. It put the weight onto the entire mounting area of the expansion are, so unless your case is flimsy it mounts great! I'll update this if I find something inherently wrong or was overlooked.
This is the exact same mount I use in my h9 flow, and I love it. It easily holds my 4080, and it is really adjustable so I could get excellent airflow. Temps have never broken 65c
i love that you can slide it sideways allowing you to move the card further from the glass panel
I bought that mount last year and it’s pretty awesome. Used it to jazz up a rosewill case
Dude this kind of mount would rock with one of the older 2000's cases with a 200mm fan on the side panel, like the Cooler Master HAF932
Those temps would be AWESOME
I mounted my 7900XTX Red Devil vertically (with universal mount LINKUP - AVA Universal Vertical GPU Bracket, look at the Amazon if you want it) year and a half ago, and it lowered 2-3 degrees of GPU :) The main trick is that my case - Corsair 5000D Airflow has 3 intake 120mm fans on the right side, and together with frontal intake fans the main cold airflow inside the case is shifted towards left side, and that's where the GPU is. :) I really suggest to Jay to re-check horizontal-vertical GPU temps with a case with right-side intake fans, like 5000D. The airflow can be shown even in "Smoke test" :)
I'd be very interested in seeing how much moving it closer or further from the tempered glass side panel will affect the temperature, it'd be a very cool video.
Hey Jay, I got myself a Steelcase Gesture during the Memorial Day sale because of the video you made of the chair. I love it, I couldn't believe how heavy it is. Thanks for the review, this chair will last for years!
Ifixit ad is still the best sponsor spot on YT...always makes me smile
Imo black part in white case (or white part in black case) is the perfect choice to show/demo the product.
Sure, most ppl would buy the matching colour for their build but for the video it's better to have the contrast.
I just ordered this mount for my NV7, and I can't wait to install it.
Been using that exact mount for about 6 months now, have to say like you I was shocked at how well built it is. Mine house a 7900 XTX and this version (AMD ref) blows only through top and bottom. It has improved by about 5 degrees since installing this and more importantly never throttles. I can highly recommend this guys, Thanks for sharing Jay
You were throttling before this? It might be that vapor chamber issue. I was just curious because I run the same gpu atm.
Just purchased one on Amazon for $31 USD! What a great deal. It’s going in my O11D mini to show-off my 4070. I will feel so much better with the card exhausting everywhere BUT the motherboard.
Thanks for another informative video guys!
For me, the real benefit of vertical mount is for heavy graphic cards.
With some custom one, we can reach the kilogram.
Even with enforced PCi-e slots, it's still big for it.
A vertical mount put the PCi-e slot on the bottom so we have not this pressure on PCBs.
I like it and thanks for showing it in a H7, i have a H7 case so now i know how it will look
In my 800d going Vertical (With 3 inches between the fans and the door.) made the my 3080ti temps rise by 8*F. Switched back and temps lowered back down 8*F. Kept it this way for 5+ years now and never looked back.
My big concern would be losing temperature in cases with bottom mounted fans, as now less than half the air would be going on the correct side.
When in contrast with a pc case with front blowing fans, regardless of the orientation of the gpu, it's always facing perpendicular to the fans.
I have one with an ASRock 7900xtx aqua on it and it's great!!! I have even been able to move it enough to get to the SSDs behind it and put a cooler on the SSD. Fabulous product
I use this mount with a Strix RTX 4090 OC with no sag for the last 6 months. I did have to use a Velcro to keep it from sliding back when you plug in your cables. My temps got better. NZXT H9 Flow with 3 fans on the bottom.
The O11 Air Mini has an optional vertical mount from Lian Li that works really well Jay
Have had this in an H9 flow and 4090 for awhile. Helped run the 12v vertically instead of bending or using adapters.
I’ve had this exact riser for over a year now. I love it! I have a PNY 4090 holds it just fine. And I’m using it inside of a NZXT H9 elite case.
Now if only they made a water block for my GPU (the regular PNY 4090)
Thank you for making this video and all the extra hands on commentary - it means a lot.
Ive been using this mount for a year atleast. I have tried several and this one is the best easily .Holds my Founders 4090 perfectly with no sagging unlike most
I started using a vertical mount. Like the video, I really didn't notice much improvement. But then, I don't have the setup Jay has to test both. Having said that, I do tend to agree with what he said about the one side of the GPU, when mounted horizontally, that runs along the motherboard, and how that can cause a bit of air choking. Regardless, I like the looks of a vertical mount, so that's my main reason for having it.
TLDR: vertical mounting is mainly for aesthetics
Main reason why I have mine mounted vertically in my o11 air mini. 😂
that or fitting a WC 4090 block inside a case LOL Because of the height + the fitting it doesn't fit a lot of case even big one so mounthing this way is the only way
@@ryogaming4771 chonker cards are better to be vertically mounted to prevent cracked pcb's
@@TheBlueBunnyKen Which is why I have an anti-sag bracket for my 3090.
while not unexpected.... I wish I hadn't scrolled down and seen this before finishing the video.
I have been raving about the CM V2 mount since that was launched. Its solid, you can move it all over the place, and yeah, the temps are not night and day, but I found the internal temps were better for the case. Because the airflow is better, the case fans don't ramp up as high.
I have an O11 clone with a 360 rad in the top sucking air up and three 120's sucking air into the rear compartment and just a 360 filter in the case floor. I tested the GPU temps in horizontal and vertical, and vertical showed better temps and higher benchmark averages.
I have the previous model in my 011D and it's been great. The main reason I bought it is because the PSU cables were being crushed between my 3070ti and the glass. Of course a 90 degree adapter would have also worked but I liked the vertical orientation.
The premium phanteks vertical mount with rgb is perfect for my 4090. Sits back away from the glass and keeps temps over 5 degrees cooler compared to horizontal mount and is more secure with the extra support bracket that screws into the back of the GPU.
I'm running this vertical mount in my O11 with Gigabyte RTX4090 Gaming OC for a year now without any problems. This graphics card is so tall, that with power connector on top, I wouldn't be able to connect the 12VHPWR connector, because it would hit the glass when GPU was mounted horizontally. Also no problems with signal integrity when PCI-E gen.4 is enabled - never had any problems booting, artifacting or display blinking. Can recommend.
It would be interesting to see this same test in an airflow focused case with a mesh side panel. Then you can use this adapter to get it as close to the side as possible to get completely fresh air.
I feel like the main benefit to be seen is with mesh/perforated panels since you can then have such close contact with fresh air by moving the GPU closer
It looks cooler does that count. ;) Jay and his Crew Rocks. Thanks man.
I recently installed one of these into my buddy’s pc and really liked the mount.
ive been looking at that mount for a while and was a little worried about temps on my 7900XT and seeing this makes me feel more comfortable at getting one :)
Great that you made test about that. Just finished my build with a Rtx 4090 vertically mounted in a H6 Flow and until this video I was really unsure if it will reduce performance.
The Yellow was also to give it contrast,
When you clean your PC and unplug the GPU, if it's having shorts and micro-arching, the smoke and arching will stain the yellow with black marks.
Am I ever going to skip that masterpiece iFixit add? Of course not! I'm going to watch it every time with a grin on my face.
You can get ver mount with a tilt thats not fixed (magnets hold it down to the case) I have one in mine for ages and gives it so much more space from sides of case for GPU to get more air
I have the same too and love it . Had it for years .
Brought this vertical mount a few months ago. I like it.
@JayzTwoCents Try to create three holes of the same size as the fan on the side panel. This will allow it to draw fresh air from the side.
have that exact cooler master mount and it works really well in the h6 flow. i love the adjustability
I bought that the last summer for my strix 4070ti, it's amazing, luckly my case hold it very well and straight in bubble
The mini air has a vertical mount adapter from Lian Li. It replaces a large chunk of the back IO part of the case.
I had this for a few months. Worked fine with my air cooled 7900XT. I decided to ditch it when I got a water block for my card. Tubing runs just didn't work out to my liking using the vertical mount. Turned out nicer looking mounted normally.
"Can this mount actually HELP GPU temps?"
Well, we don't know because you didn't actually test anything. Did not lock fan speed, did not lock frequency, did not record benchmarks. What the hell was the point?!
There is one other detail I didn't specify at the time about the cooling/venting with my laptop: the air is blown down ⬇ - it's force. Then the air is forced thru the vent where there's a depth in the venting pad before the air gets to the exit of it. Maybe their needs to be a length of space between the vent & the exit. For my laptop, the flow is all downward; starting from the laptop ⬇, thru the cooling pad ⬇, thru the venting pad (with a depth beore the exit) ⬇ - & something about the venting pad is enhancing the cooling. I saw on the NitroSense app.
This looks way easier to install than the old EKWB vertical mount, I was always very paranoid about knocking board SMD's off when fitting that thing.
finally someone talk about how vertical gpu mount affect temps, no one talk about it in youtube
I have that mount in my white case. I love it. Temps are amazing.
You also add another point of failure/bottleneck by using a riser cable. You should only vertical mount for space restrictions.
Can confirm 4 slot GPU fits perfectly fine.
The @technologyhive uploaded a video about vertical mounts being pretty much the only solution to mounting heavy gpus. Guy fixes gpus for a living and those little stand/support things that come with gpus these days are actually causing bending on the the boards and breaking the solder joints on many cards. Worth the watch imo.
I've been using this mount for about a year. I use it with a EVGA 3080 FTW3 ultra card. The card stays nice and cool. Also the adjustments are nice for this bracket.
My Case is the NZXT H6 flow
THIS IS LITERALLY IN MY CART AND I WANTED TO SEE A REVIEW. THANK YOU
I love catching a video as it drops and it is an ifixit video.
The only ad I don't mind watching on youtube
Best ads ever lol
The i fix it ad is pure gold
Best "non paid for/sponsored" add ever. Also love the WOW add. Phil is indeed a master of his craft.
I've had my RX 6800 vertical mounted for a year plus now and it definitely helps disperse the heat more efficiently, always cold air flowing out top and back exhaust the only heat I get from the card goes straight out the case.
TIP: get a right angle extension thought, not a straight extender cable
Used that exact bracket in an Asus P201 MATX case with a AMD Radeon 6950 XT. Ribs on the back of the case blocked the ports so I had to adjust the bracket position to rest more inside the case. This made accessing the two DP difficult. Other interior cabling was cramped and pressed against the bracket resulting in an uneven tilt to the card position... all in all, it worked. Barely. Ended up returning the bracket and restoring the GPU to normal mounting on the MB. In short, your mileage may vary on the utility of this bracket for smaller cases.
I have the same cooler master holder. But I used it to remove the huge weight of 4090 from PCI express slot to prevent sagging or a potential damage to the motherboard. It was enough for me that GPU didn't run hotter in vertical position.
Those are still good temps way to go jay control the temps to boost clock power limit and controlled memory clocks
All the adjustments are really nice. Even if you wanted it as close to the motherboard as you could that would be useful for install so you had enough room to get the extension cable in the motherboard.
I'm using the NZXT "universal" bracket and it's pretty good. I have a custom loop in mine so the card (6900XT) isn't super heavy, but even still the bracket did sag a bit. I built a little brace between the bottom fans and the bracket out of Legos, lol. Got it perfectly level.
I can see your point i have the hyte y60 and it looks so good but they clearly thought about cooling gpu before doing it as putting fans underneath it in the floor seems really smart and good way to cool it
Logic and thermodynamics dictate that air rises and fluid falls, thus in a heat pipe where there is heat transfer, the hot spot will be at the top - and thus optimal placement would be for the heat pipes to be vertical with the heat generating part at the bottom.
The higher the condensation part is from the generating part the higher the temperature difference between the pipe and the outside and thus the greater the heat dissipation which can occur.
Protip: make sure the mounting slots that go in the back don’t have direct contact with the board and short it