It's very unusual for Star Trek to just have two fathers casually trading notes about their teenage sons - nothing alien about it. It's also incredibly classic Trek (and especially DS9) for one of those sons to be an alien doing things nobody from his society has ever done, because he's growing and learning and is his way of doing what he thinks is right. Perfect combination for a lovely scene.
@@jerodast It occurred to me a while ago that the Quark, Rom and Nog basically have an immigrant story plotline. One adult becomes traditionalist (maybe even more so than he would have in the homeland), the other adult is open-minded and assimilates a little, but the next generation goes all in on assimilation. (No puns intended.) And as everyone is saying, it's all very human for rubber forehead aliens.
Very, very rare. I feel like it was a tremendous missed opportunity from the DS9 writing staff. That being said, Rom wasn't main cast, and the majority of scenes need to involve the main cast interacting, I suppose. But yeah, this was a great scene.
I like how different Sisko's interactions with Rom are from Quark. Sisko usually takes on a hard-edged and suspicious tone of voice with Quark, mainly because he doesn't really trust him and the fact that he's usually up to something. With Rom, his voice is softer and more friendly due to Rom's sensitive nature and lack of guile. Although Quark and Rom are brothers, they couldn't be more different. 🖖😎👍
And yet consistent. If you're rewatching DS9... Rom, Nog, Garak, Martok, Damar... "non-series regulars" get character growth & Redemption... and Dukat, Winn, & Gowron get karma...
That's why it's good to have multiple characters when you're trying to represent a group. Dwayne McDuffie demonstrated that with his comics - one character of a minority represents all of them but when you have many they can show many sides. So with DS9 we get to see a very average Ferengi businessman in Quark but we also get to see his head of state, his unusual mother, even more cutthroat businessmen, his bad at being a Ferengi brother, and his genius nephew.
I loved how Nog's character developed. Whoever wrote Nog's development was a genius. It's a shame we lost Aaron so soon. Would have loved to seen him as a captain of his own star ship. One of my all time favorite Sisko lines, when he was asked about sponsoring Nog for star fleet academy, A Ferengi in star fleet, Are you sure about this? I've never been more sure of anything in my life.
Not just him, but Rom too. Rom went from engineer lackey of his brother, to dedicated federation engineer, to civilians hero of the Dominion War ( his brilliant idea of self replicating mines), to Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance with a beautiful wife.
Season 1 Rom wouldn't talk to a hew-mon. Season 5... he's attempting an actual conversation with Captain Sisko... father to father. And Sisko doesn't seem surprised by this at all... just another day on DS9.
I just saw a clip from S1 (probably E1). The Wormhole is just discovered and the Prophets don't know who Benjamin is. The show thankfully made a lot of adjustments from the first episodes.
DS9 did a great job showing the various types of "good" fathers Both Rom and Sisko are single dads, dedicated to their careers, but always there to make time for their children, and be a good role model Worf, the awkward "Never wanted to be a dad" who struggles to understand his son who is nothing like him, and though he didn't always make the best decisions as a father, he always tried to do what was best for his son O'Brien, the classic overworked family man who loves his wife and kids more than anything, while battling his own internal demons, including PTSD. An argument could even be made for Martok in the later seasons, as Worf's adopted older brother/father figure. He gave the portrayal of the elder father to an adult son, who had cultivated a true friendship with his child, and could view Worf as an equal, while still being able to offer guidance, and accept council. And lastly, there's Joseph Sisko. As Ben's dad, and Jake's grandfather, we always saw him as a stern, but fair man who took a no BS approach to his son, while gently offering guidance and discipline. And, he taught Ben to cook with all the talents of a Michelin Star chef. That in itself is a noteworthy task From the first episode, the driving principal in DS9 was family.
I sometimes wish Jake had a little more of Nog's self-discipline. And I wish Nog had Jake's ability to enjoy himself. CAPTAIN SISKO: are you thinking what I'm thinking??? ROM: I think so but are you sure the transporter could clone them after merging them together?????
It was always one of my favorite character twists that while Jake started out a naive captain's son and Nog started out a troublemaking rascal, Jake grew up to be the free-spirited slob with the crazy ideas and Nog grew up to be the beleaguered straight-arrow who just wants to keep things ordered.
Rom: Nog says Jake is a slovenly, undisciplined, unfocused writer. Me: Holy Jesus, someone call security, there's about to be a murder in the... Sisko: Not an unfair assessment. Me: ...Oh... All right then.
Sisko knows Rom is a good egg and overlooks the insensitive remark because he knows Rom is an honest man concerned about his son's development, just as Sisko is concerned about his own son's. It speaks to the depth of his character as a man, a father, and a commander
Part of the reason Sisko is my favorite captain is just because of how human he is. You get the feeling Picard was born in a starfleet uniform and Kirk loved his silver lady more than he could any woman. Great characterizations if you're trying to portray legendary captains sure but they were both larger than life. Sisko on the other hand was more than just his job. He invited his coworkers to dinners so he could cook for them, he took them out to baseball games in the holosuite to show them his favorite hobby, he had heart to hearts with his son, he traded parenting advice with O'brien and Rom here, he acted like a kook to court his wife. You always got a sense of how he was juggling his different identities, commander, father, friend, husband just like how real people do. That always made him feel much richer as a character, like he was much more than a uniform, some pips and a combadge.
The irony is, that in the beginning, Sisko was heavily against the friendship, because he always saw Nog as a bad influence. And now its the other way around. ^^
I imagine the life of a Captain can be lonely at times - most conversations you'd have would be about work, even when 'off duty'. So I suspect Rom wanting to chat about family life was a welcome change of pace.
I was riding in an elevator with the company CEO one day and it kind of hit me that is likely a very lonely existence once you reach that level as anyone acting nice to you has to be suspected of an ulterior motive and even childhood friends (Unless they are similarly wealthy and powerful probably fall by the wayside as you rise up as they can't afford to hang out with you or you get too busy with social events they can't attend, but you must attend because of your station in life (Political fundraisers, charity benefits, golf tourneys, etc.). At the same time, one's sympathy is limited by the fact that person is perhaps making 20 or more times per year than you are, and likely knowingly cast some people off as they rose through the ranks.
@@danieldickson8591 Oh I am sure he meant Nog. But, the same thing could also be said for Rom. ..... And, maybe also for Sisco. At the start, he thought Feringi were too... "Different from humans" and didn't want his children associating with those people. 😃
Defrauding the Grand Nagus might've also made that decision easier. It meant he can be stereotypical Ferengi enough to understand others, even if he tries not to. And that he's willing to execute such a scheme x
I wonder if Sisko was alright with Rom taking a blood sample when Nog was sleeping because of his own worries about his dad in the Paradise Lost two parter, like he knows what it feels like to worry about a family member that may be a changeling. Like i'd be a bit concerned about a night time blood letting from your own dad.
@@tomaspabon2484 But how serious, really? All Rom did was draw a little blood to see if it changed, he didn't run any analysis on it. If Nog didn't wake up it must not even have hurt him. And what if Rom was right and it wasn't actually Nog?
@@tomaspabon2484 The Sisko does not impose his culture's own sense of bodily privacy to a Ferangi, especially regarding a father/son interaction. I'm sure he would have protested if the blood test was done on Jake.
ROM: Snail juice. Extra shells. Make it a double. Captain, may I join you? CAPTAIN SISKO: Be my guest. ROM: I wanted to ask you about Nog. You know, my son? CAPTAIN SISKO: I think I've met him. ROM: Have you noticed anything strange about him lately? CAPTAIN SISKO: He seems fine to me. He's just more dedicated than when he left. ROM: I've noticed. CAPTAIN SISKO: A year at the Academy will do that to people. ROM: You think it's the Academy? CAPTAIN SISKO: What else could it be? ROM: I was afraid he might be a changeling. So while he was asleep, I drew some blood, just to make sure. It's been 8 hours. So far, so good. CAPTAIN SISKO: Rom, he's still your son. He's just taking his duties very seriously, that's all. ROM: Nog's moved back in with me, you know. It's horrible. He put me on report the other day. Said my tool kit was untidy. That's the exact word he used. Untidy. CAPTAIN SISKO: I wouldn't worry about it. He's just going through a phase, that's all. ROM: I was hoping living with Jake would relax him. CAPTAIN SISKO: I'm afraid Jake's going through a phase of his own. I don't know what's so difficult about putting a dirty dish back into the replicator. ROM: Nog says Jake is a slovenly, undisciplined, unfocused writer. CAPTAIN SISKO: Not an unfair assessment. You know, I sometimes wish Jake had a little more of Nog's self-discipline. ROM: And I wish Nog had Jake's ability to enjoy himself. Those two could learn a lot from each other. CAPTAIN SISKO: If we could only get them in the same room.
An absolutely unique scene. Sisko and Rom weren't the only fathers on the cast, but they were the only fathers of teenage boys (well OK, technically Worf was as well, but we don't tend to talk about Alexander), and this scene was the two of them, who could not be more unalike, bonding over that one thing they had in common.
Did anyone else feel like when Rom started in on Jake that he was about to catch hands from Sisko? I certainly didn't expect him to just say "'Not an unfair assessment," anyway. 😆
"About Nog. Y'know, my son?" "I think I've met him." lol. Bro, I literally signed the letter that got him admitted to the Academy. Yes, I know who your son is.
Rom is such a good character in the show. And it's crazy to think that he exists as a character purely as a writing consequence of other characters. Quark and Nog were both planned characters from the beginning of the series. Quark was always a bartender on the station and Nog was always going to be Quark's nephew that lived on the station and eventually joined Starfleet. Nog though, he started off as a no-name throw away Ferengi waiter in the bar. But then they decided Nog needed a father and if Nog has a father that means he's Quark's brother. They had Nog on the series already so they just used him. Then they sculpted his personality to contrast with Quark's. He's shockingly very similar to Miles O'brien from a writing perspective. An actor playing a bit part with not much going on that the staff liked that got their character shaped to fit the events the story needed as time went on.
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I like how no one in their or our universe says anything about taking blood from an unconscious child. Interesting how that's "ok" because it's a parent doing the blood taking.
What a great scene. Rom and Sisko pretty much have the same issue, sons they are clashing with, but at opposite ends of the spectrum. And Rom constantly checking that vile as if he's convinced it's going to change at any moment makes me laugh.
that is the writers still trying to keep some of the Ferengis' original purpose to the show, comical relief. It was good that they drifted away from that more as the show progressed.
Season one Sisko is telling g Jake to stay away from Nog. Season 4 I wish Jake was a little like Nog. Rom telling Nog to stay away from the human is s1 and says in s4 I wish Nog was a little like Jake. Lol
@@varianschirmer9375 I think I meant to put Rom. I don’t know why I said Aron. Mainly because I said “Sisko” as in the character. It wouldn’t make sense for the character to find an actor (the wrong actor too) funny.
Its been awhile since i saw d69 but wasnt very often we had rom and sisko comes together in show and approach each other as fathers.
It's very unusual for Star Trek to just have two fathers casually trading notes about their teenage sons - nothing alien about it. It's also incredibly classic Trek (and especially DS9) for one of those sons to be an alien doing things nobody from his society has ever done, because he's growing and learning and is his way of doing what he thinks is right. Perfect combination for a lovely scene.
@@jerodast It occurred to me a while ago that the Quark, Rom and Nog basically have an immigrant story plotline. One adult becomes traditionalist (maybe even more so than he would have in the homeland), the other adult is open-minded and assimilates a little, but the next generation goes all in on assimilation. (No puns intended.) And as everyone is saying, it's all very human for rubber forehead aliens.
Very, very rare. I feel like it was a tremendous missed opportunity from the DS9 writing staff. That being said, Rom wasn't main cast, and the majority of scenes need to involve the main cast interacting, I suppose. But yeah, this was a great scene.
@@CarlosRuiz-sg9ndI think it was a huge shame that Nog was never made a part of the main cast.
D69?
This isn't a video about the porn parody...
I like how different Sisko's interactions with Rom are from Quark. Sisko usually takes on a hard-edged and suspicious tone of voice with Quark, mainly because he doesn't really trust him and the fact that he's usually up to something. With Rom, his voice is softer and more friendly due to Rom's sensitive nature and lack of guile. Although Quark and Rom are brothers, they couldn't be more different. 🖖😎👍
And yet consistent.
If you're rewatching DS9... Rom, Nog, Garak, Martok, Damar... "non-series regulars" get character growth & Redemption... and Dukat, Winn, & Gowron get karma...
It also helps that Rom's the father of his son's friend
Sisko's never seen an ounce of duplicity from Rom.
Quark... Sisko's been twisting him since "Emissary"... and when he's not... Odo is...
That's why it's good to have multiple characters when you're trying to represent a group. Dwayne McDuffie demonstrated that with his comics - one character of a minority represents all of them but when you have many they can show many sides.
So with DS9 we get to see a very average Ferengi businessman in Quark but we also get to see his head of state, his unusual mother, even more cutthroat businessmen, his bad at being a Ferengi brother, and his genius nephew.
@@RensuneAnd that’s something they have in common. They’re both fathers. Single fathers, no less, raising their boys on their own.
I love how both Sisko on Rom are terrific single fathers.
And then there's Worf, lol
@@billabobyt Word is a perfect example of what not to do. 😆
@@billabobytworf went out to the space market to buy cigarettes
This is one of the best scenes in DS9. Two fathers talking with one another and worrying about their kids. It's great to watch.
and Sharing a drink on a space station and just being people. awesome
10/10
I loved how Nog's character developed. Whoever wrote Nog's development was a genius. It's a shame we lost Aaron so soon. Would have loved to seen him as a captain of his own star ship. One of my all time favorite Sisko lines, when he was asked about sponsoring Nog for star fleet academy, A Ferengi in star fleet, Are you sure about this? I've never been more sure of anything in my life.
Though it's not canon, Nog is a major player in several episodes of Star Trek Online, voiced by Aron Eisenberg and in command of the USS Chimera.
There was the brief scene in the episode The Visitor.
Not just him, but Rom too.
Rom went from engineer lackey of his brother, to dedicated federation engineer, to civilians hero of the Dominion War ( his brilliant idea of self replicating mines), to Grand Nagus of the Ferengi Alliance with a beautiful wife.
If Aron was still alive, and if I was a writer for Picard, I would’ve made him captain of the Enterprise. He would’ve earned it.
In STO canon he's the only captain who's ever beaten the no-win scenario without reprogramming the simulator.
Season 1 Rom wouldn't talk to a hew-mon.
Season 5... he's attempting an actual conversation with Captain Sisko... father to father.
And Sisko doesn't seem surprised by this at all... just another day on DS9.
In Season 2, Sisko calls Rom a family friend :)
@@craigmcfly Which episode?
@@varianschirmer9375 208 - Necessary Evil
I agree. In this scene between Sisco and Rom, essentially "it was Tuesday" haha
I just saw a clip from S1 (probably E1). The Wormhole is just discovered and the Prophets don't know who Benjamin is.
The show thankfully made a lot of adjustments from the first episodes.
DS9 did a great job showing the various types of "good" fathers
Both Rom and Sisko are single dads, dedicated to their careers, but always there to make time for their children, and be a good role model
Worf, the awkward "Never wanted to be a dad" who struggles to understand his son who is nothing like him, and though he didn't always make the best decisions as a father, he always tried to do what was best for his son
O'Brien, the classic overworked family man who loves his wife and kids more than anything, while battling his own internal demons, including PTSD.
An argument could even be made for Martok in the later seasons, as Worf's adopted older brother/father figure. He gave the portrayal of the elder father to an adult son, who had cultivated a true friendship with his child, and could view Worf as an equal, while still being able to offer guidance, and accept council.
And lastly, there's Joseph Sisko. As Ben's dad, and Jake's grandfather, we always saw him as a stern, but fair man who took a no BS approach to his son, while gently offering guidance and discipline. And, he taught Ben to cook with all the talents of a Michelin Star chef. That in itself is a noteworthy task
From the first episode, the driving principal in DS9 was family.
Worf cares more about his honour than he does about his son, and fails to understand why Alexander doesn't care about honour.
I sometimes wish Jake had a little more of Nog's self-discipline. And I wish Nog had Jake's ability to enjoy himself.
CAPTAIN SISKO: are you thinking what I'm thinking???
ROM: I think so but are you sure the transporter could clone them after merging them together?????
Janeway: Have I ever told you the story of Tuvix?
Yes! Let's Tuvix them!
I was thinking more along the lines of trading them. Sisko would get a disciplined son while rom gets a more „relaxed“ one
I read this in the voices of Pinky and the Brain. 🙂
I present to you, Noke.
It was always one of my favorite character twists that while Jake started out a naive captain's son and Nog started out a troublemaking rascal, Jake grew up to be the free-spirited slob with the crazy ideas and Nog grew up to be the beleaguered straight-arrow who just wants to keep things ordered.
grass is always greener on the other side. I know when I started learning some lessons I clearly needed I took some a bit too far past the fence.
Rom: Nog says Jake is a slovenly, undisciplined, unfocused writer.
Me: Holy Jesus, someone call security, there's about to be a murder in the...
Sisko: Not an unfair assessment.
Me: ...Oh... All right then.
Sisko isnt anything if not objective
Just one of those “Eh he’s not wrong” moments. He would know more than anyone.
If anyone knows about a person's flaws, it's their parents. Trust and believe. XD
some parents take responsibility for how their kids turn out
Sisko knows Rom is a good egg and overlooks the insensitive remark because he knows Rom is an honest man concerned about his son's development, just as Sisko is concerned about his own son's.
It speaks to the depth of his character as a man, a father, and a commander
Part of the reason Sisko is my favorite captain is just because of how human he is. You get the feeling Picard was born in a starfleet uniform and Kirk loved his silver lady more than he could any woman. Great characterizations if you're trying to portray legendary captains sure but they were both larger than life. Sisko on the other hand was more than just his job. He invited his coworkers to dinners so he could cook for them, he took them out to baseball games in the holosuite to show them his favorite hobby, he had heart to hearts with his son, he traded parenting advice with O'brien and Rom here, he acted like a kook to court his wife. You always got a sense of how he was juggling his different identities, commander, father, friend, husband just like how real people do. That always made him feel much richer as a character, like he was much more than a uniform, some pips and a combadge.
Love the second shake of the blood tube haha
Rom was kind of hoping he was a changeling haha. So he could get away with being a little "untidy" :)
The irony is, that in the beginning, Sisko was heavily against the friendship, because he always saw Nog as a bad influence. And now its the other way around. ^^
It’s funny how that can happen in real life too. The kids who were the biggest troublemakers sometimes end up being the most responsible adults.
And This is why DS9 is stillthe Best.
They act like actual people.
The "that's a fair assessment" took me by surprise. Credit to sisko for not getting defensive
But this is also a sign, that Sisko values Rom having read whatever it was that his son Jake wrote :)
Even in the future, parenting worries are a thing.
Naturally
Always have been,
*Always* will be.
It seems the psychology of family dynamics is _also_ a scientific topic that can fall within the realm of Science Fiction.
This scene is so nice because it's just one dad talking to another
Rom always talks to others in good faith and honesty. One reason he is trusted and everyone enjoys his company
This is one of, if not, my favourite Rom scene. He's just so lovable and Max's comic timing and delivery is so, so good.
I imagine the life of a Captain can be lonely at times - most conversations you'd have would be about work, even when 'off duty'. So I suspect Rom wanting to chat about family life was a welcome change of pace.
I was riding in an elevator with the company CEO one day and it kind of hit me that is likely a very lonely existence once you reach that level as anyone acting nice to you has to be suspected of an ulterior motive and even childhood friends (Unless they are similarly wealthy and powerful probably fall by the wayside as you rise up as they can't afford to hang out with you or you get too busy with social events they can't attend, but you must attend because of your station in life (Political fundraisers, charity benefits, golf tourneys, etc.). At the same time, one's sympathy is limited by the fact that person is perhaps making 20 or more times per year than you are, and likely knowingly cast some people off as they rose through the ranks.
One of the best characters ever! The way Nog grew was just amazing. Given the right role models, the opportunities and bam. Very well written.
Did you mean Nog, or Rom?
@@danieldickson8591 Oh I am sure he meant Nog.
But, the same thing could also be said for Rom.
..... And, maybe also for Sisco. At the start, he thought Feringi were too...
"Different from humans" and didn't want his children associating with those people. 😃
This series has great writing
Another reason why Rom was given Nagus. He expertly led Sisko to the conclusion of having Jake a Nog spend more time together. A master at the craft.
Defrauding the Grand Nagus might've also made that decision easier. It meant he can be stereotypical Ferengi enough to understand others, even if he tries not to. And that he's willing to execute such a scheme x
I like Rom, he's uncomplicated. He's not stupid, just vey forthright. The world would be a better place with more people like him.
Fun episode, Jake & Nog are great together & fun to watch!!! 🖖
I wonder if Sisko was alright with Rom taking a blood sample when Nog was sleeping because of his own worries about his dad in the Paradise Lost two parter, like he knows what it feels like to worry about a family member that may be a changeling. Like i'd be a bit concerned about a night time blood letting from your own dad.
He certainly didn't reprimand Rom for it at the time... did he?
It is kinda weird that his reaction was so natural. Thats a serious violation of bodily privacy even if the concern is a valid one.
@@tomaspabon2484 But how serious, really? All Rom did was draw a little blood to see if it changed, he didn't run any analysis on it. If Nog didn't wake up it must not even have hurt him. And what if Rom was right and it wasn't actually Nog?
@@tomaspabon2484 The Sisko does not impose his culture's own sense of bodily privacy to a Ferangi, especially regarding a father/son interaction. I'm sure he would have protested if the blood test was done on Jake.
@@tomaspabon2484war times demand sacrifice
ROM: Snail juice. Extra shells. Make it a double. Captain, may I join you?
CAPTAIN SISKO: Be my guest.
ROM: I wanted to ask you about Nog. You know, my son?
CAPTAIN SISKO: I think I've met him.
ROM: Have you noticed anything strange about him lately?
CAPTAIN SISKO: He seems fine to me. He's just more dedicated than when he left.
ROM: I've noticed.
CAPTAIN SISKO: A year at the Academy will do that to people.
ROM: You think it's the Academy?
CAPTAIN SISKO: What else could it be?
ROM: I was afraid he might be a changeling. So while he was asleep, I drew some blood, just to make sure. It's been 8 hours. So far, so good.
CAPTAIN SISKO: Rom, he's still your son. He's just taking his duties very seriously, that's all.
ROM: Nog's moved back in with me, you know. It's horrible. He put me on report the other day. Said my tool kit was untidy. That's the exact word he used. Untidy.
CAPTAIN SISKO: I wouldn't worry about it. He's just going through a phase, that's all.
ROM: I was hoping living with Jake would relax him.
CAPTAIN SISKO: I'm afraid Jake's going through a phase of his own. I don't know what's so difficult about putting a dirty dish back into the replicator.
ROM: Nog says Jake is a slovenly, undisciplined, unfocused writer.
CAPTAIN SISKO: Not an unfair assessment. You know, I sometimes wish Jake had a little more of Nog's self-discipline.
ROM: And I wish Nog had Jake's ability to enjoy himself. Those two could learn a lot from each other.
CAPTAIN SISKO: If we could only get them in the same room.
His drink order makes me think Ferengi have some French in them.
Legend
Sisko before: "keep that for ferengi kid away from my boy"
Sisko later: "if only we could get them in the same room..."
“That’s a fair assessment”.
Yeah, I’ve had it happen before when someone criticized my kid, and I could not argue with it.
Truth hurts. 😂😂😂
An absolutely unique scene. Sisko and Rom weren't the only fathers on the cast, but they were the only fathers of teenage boys (well OK, technically Worf was as well, but we don't tend to talk about Alexander), and this scene was the two of them, who could not be more unalike, bonding over that one thing they had in common.
The character development of the Ferengi was amazing.
Rom was my Fav in DS9. A good hearted Character with a lot of talent. And a loving Father.
Its the little parts of the story of deep space 9 that make this the best in star treck history i love all of them but ds 9 is my favorite
1:42 You can see the "as a father that hurts, but i can't argue against it." Look from sisko
I always forget how deep Sisko's voice is.
Did anyone else feel like when Rom started in on Jake that he was about to catch hands from Sisko? I certainly didn't expect him to just say "'Not an unfair assessment," anyway. 😆
Rom was just relaying what Nog said to him. It would have been petty for Sisko to get mad at the messenger.
"About Nog. Y'know, my son?" "I think I've met him."
lol. Bro, I literally signed the letter that got him admitted to the Academy. Yes, I know who your son is.
Two dads scheming interpersonal stuff that isn't all the fate of humanity. That's good Star Trek.
These two should have had more interactions , they are great .
Sisko: If only we could get them in the same room....
Hunter Gathers: The minute the third cave man was crapped out a conspiracy was formed!
This is Gold
Dad's of the year, for all the years 😊
Two dads worried about their sons. Some things never change.
Rom is such a good character in the show. And it's crazy to think that he exists as a character purely as a writing consequence of other characters.
Quark and Nog were both planned characters from the beginning of the series. Quark was always a bartender on the station and Nog was always going to be Quark's nephew that lived on the station and eventually joined Starfleet.
Nog though, he started off as a no-name throw away Ferengi waiter in the bar. But then they decided Nog needed a father and if Nog has a father that means he's Quark's brother. They had Nog on the series already so they just used him. Then they sculpted his personality to contrast with Quark's.
He's shockingly very similar to Miles O'brien from a writing perspective. An actor playing a bit part with not much going on that the staff liked that got their character shaped to fit the events the story needed as time went on.
Sisko: "You got peanut butter on my chocolate."
Rom: "You got chocolate in my peanut butter."
So many lessons in these
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@@April-dv2pb thanks. I am the guy doing Where No One Has Gone Before and I am having DVD copy problems with enterprise, the original series and ds9
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How times changed...
Love it
The Feringi are the most interesting after the Borg I wish there is more about them in DS9 every episode about Quark or the Feringi was my favorite
Quark warned him. His child forgot about the Divine Treasury after working with hoo mans and picked up some of their disgusting habits.
I like how no one in their or our universe says anything about taking blood from an unconscious child. Interesting how that's "ok" because it's a parent doing the blood taking.
great minds think alike
What a great scene. Rom and Sisko pretty much have the same issue, sons they are clashing with, but at opposite ends of the spectrum. And Rom constantly checking that vile as if he's convinced it's going to change at any moment makes me laugh.
that is the writers still trying to keep some of the Ferengis' original purpose to the show, comical relief. It was good that they drifted away from that more as the show progressed.
These phases...I love finally being 30, those are mostly gone
just give it 10 years and you'll start going throught the "what happened to my life" phases LOL Anyone over 50 knows what I'm talking about.
It's a hard Nog life for him.
In what other Trek series could you have them take a break from the A/B plot to stop and have DAD TALK!?!?
Rule of Acquisition #223 Beware the man who doesn't take time for oo-mox. Nog needs to holosuite and chill.
Okay but can we talk about how we glossed over the fact that a parent took a blood sample from his adult son without consent
Sisko to Odo..............I need a favor.
I like how Sisko is actually a good family man.
I love Picard as a mans man but sisko is who. You strive to actually be
Rom would make a great shios counselor.
Season one Sisko is telling g Jake to stay away from Nog. Season 4 I wish Jake was a little like Nog. Rom telling Nog to stay away from the human is s1 and says in s4 I wish Nog was a little like Jake. Lol
Fathers
Tbh I wouldn’t blame my parents at all to take my blood while I’m asleep due to changeling threats, I wouldn’t wanna confront that yea don either
0:10 I can’t tell if that’s Avery breaking character or if Sisko just finds Aron funny.
Aron was Nog.
Max was playing Rom.
@@varianschirmer9375 I think I meant to put Rom. I don’t know why I said Aron.
Mainly because I said “Sisko” as in the character. It wouldn’t make sense for the character to find an actor (the wrong actor too) funny.
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Does Rom have a form of ADHD or even autism? I can't tell.