The really sad thing for me is that everyone is feeling the same and leaving. Players who survived the massive drought of content only to leave because they were lied to and lost the trust. The worst part is i can see Blizzard just looking at Overwatch, seeing the bad numbers, blaming the game and cancelling it. When the reality is management has bungled it so bad that they took what was one of the most popular games in existence after launch and just repeatedly burnt the player base with every greedy decision.
It feels like you had a relationship, it was great for the first year or so but things started to die off a bit in the bedroom. But you still love them and enjoy their company every day. Then they go on a 3year sole searching retreat with promises to come back as a much better person. But in those 3 years they did nothing but sit around eating nothing but Doritos and mountain dew. Now they are back and they are the same person underneath, but it's an ugly version of them who is always demanding money for stuff that just doesn't make either of your lives better. Sex life is all but gone and you're thinking "is it time to move on? Maybe I should have left years ago"
You know that’s exactly it for me - droughts of content with the promise of Overwatch 2 turning things round only for the game to have yet another drought of content and the most promising content being cancelled.
Business reality: The management deserves the credit for all the financial success a game may have, but the customers and developers will feel the consequences and get the blame when the game dies because of greedy monetization practices. This is how these people think.
Once they F'ed me and everyone else in the promised PVE I quit for good back in early May of this year. I have 6000 hours been playing since 2016 beta and I'm finally done with this crack head company and their broken promises. All my buddies quit back in May as well. We'll never look back ever again
Worst way to give up on something you enjoy is for reasons inherently not under your control. Love overwatch but just can't play anymore and it has nothing to do with the universe, but simply the management of the game and business decisions.
Overwatch 1 just gave you a lot more value as a player. There was an option to earn skins by grinding or by chance and getting lucky in a lootbox. I paid full price pre order and loved the unlock grind.. the fact that i felt like my time and money spent was being honored made me spend even more money. Shock that people are more willing to spend money when they dont feel like they are being robbed or their time is being wasted huh? Miss OW1 man...
I preordered the game at full price too and 100% agree with your comment. There's definitely a lot of wasted potential with OW2 and the direction that they've gone with the game has done nothing but made it an unnecessarily expensive lackluster experience with so much content behind a paywall, especially when compared to OW1. I hate that they thought doing that, along with making the game free to play was a good idea, especially when literally so many people already preordered and bought the game by the time they made that decision, so it's kind of like we all essentially wasted our money because we basically could have gotten the game for free. Then again it seems like their target audience now is new players and not so much anyone else, which is kind of screwed up honestly.
Because children can save up some lunch money and afford a skin in a week or so where I live compare to buying a full price game. Blizzard and every other companies that do in game microtransaction and battlepass know it. You are simply not the game target audience anymore if you understand the value proposition. Anecdotal evidence and all but... my little cousin would only play game with a battlepass in it because he feel excited every time it rank up :))
@@anemone5870But they could literally save the same money for a couple more weeks to get a full price game... So they have no patience is what you're saying.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Yes they can, but why would they? They are happier with constant drip feeding of content for a game that run well and they enjoyed. Not to mention most of the recent full priced AAA game doesn't exactly scream quality or run all that well. When you payed for a full priced game and it run like shit play like shit, people will stop caring about them. If anything the whole gaming industry is the reason why it become like this.
I would gladly welcome the return of paid DLC and expansion packs. At then developers have to put in proper work, so that people are inclined to buy them
There’s this new game named Deceive Inc (it’s like a Spy FPS) and it allows you to continue progressing old battle passes. Overwatch’s passes would be significantly better with this feature. I also love how they just completely ignored the community when everyone told them no one wanted heroes in the battle pass.
deep rock galactic has perfected the battlepass model to prioritize players over payouts, its completely free, and everything you dont get in that season gets put in the regular loot pool so you can still get it in later seasons, more games need to learn from deep rock galactic
@@ninochaosdrache3189 exactly if a game offers a great experience and then dlc comes along offering another great experience then that would make players inclined to buy the dlc as well
I just want to feel like I'm not in an abusive relationship with a game. The FOMO, the constant treadmill, wasting the player's time... I just can't. I don't want to log on every day to get a reward like a rat hitting a lever in a skinner box, and I don't want to have to get on every day to do the digital equivalent of the dishes.
There was no greater feeling than a skin being released for the new event for your favourite hero/main, so you level up and up, open a loot box, see that gold disc, hope, and get a big score of credits to buy that new, awesome looking skin. Or even playing the game for hours to win credits over time to get unlocks for your favourite hero. There was gratification. Overwatch 2 has not only killed that feeling, but made it impossible to feel again.
It 100 % did. I did not complain about the loot boxes at all. Playing the lottery can be entertaining when done responsibly, like opening a pack of baseball cards. Played at least weekly with friends for years before OW2 came out. Reducing the player numbers to 5 per team, introducing the battle pass, and locking new heroes behind that battle pass have so far killed my ability to return to the game the three times I’ve tried overwatch 2. And all my friends have switched to other games. Been having more success getting at least half the group to try Valorant over the past 2 months. It’s a solid hero shooter meets counter Strike but not filling the Niche OW1 had. Battle passes paywalling/timegating heroes encourage players to be married to the game but I have enough commitments in real life thanks.
I don’t play Overwatch 2, this video just randomly popped in my feed. I remember back in the day watching Stylosa videos for Overwatch 1, you were my favorite Overwatch UA-camr because of your vibrance, happiness, and positivity. Watching this video wrecked me, this game is killing you, Stylosa. Please, please, run as far as you can, I know this is your job and you need it to make money but switch to a different game. I would love to watch your content on anything besides Overwatch 2 and I believe that others would do that too because you have such a great personality. Living in the negativity that these developers are forcing on you cannot be good for your mental health, please, find a new niche.
@@user-jl7xj5iz9khe said ow2 had more players, not overwatch In general, it’s still pretty enjoyable honestly I just ignore the battle pass stuff and get to play with all the old heroes I’ve had, 5v5 is engaging enough and it gets new content every now and then, I play a lot of games where the developer hates the player but at this point I just accept it and enjoy the actual game.
@@jacocoetzee123 All the things you have said are indeed true but the argument you're making has nothing to do with the youtubers, what we are saying is OW2 is not FUN anymore; at least how much fun we were used to having. Just because it has a healthy population, doesn't guarantees a healthy enjoyment, the feeling of accomplishment and fulfilment is gone.
I'm a former wow addict watching the overwatch playerbase come to the same realization we did a few years ago. I'm sorry for you all, the faster you move on the easier it is
It's unfortunate that this is the state of the game now. This is not what I would have expected 6 years ago when I fell in love with this game to be a monetization wall.
@@jasonadersonwedion9874 Correct me if im wrong but, doesn't everyone use the same guns in Apex, you can use your fancy gun on anybody. I think for Fps games thats enough for most players, Look Valorant people shelling out 100$$ for that gun skin pack. You won't see the character skin most of the time.
Sty, I have a ton of respect for the fact that you're essentially saying "Yeah, I get the battlepass free every season, it's what Blizzard does for content creators, whatever, this game sucks." A lot of others in that position would usually try and act as if it isn't all that bad, or focus on what small positives they can, ignore the negatives, etc. You not doing that is greatly appreciated.
As someone who grew up playing this and has memories from Torbjörn's Armour Pack days, its sad to see this happen to the game, I haven't even been able to bring myself to play Overwatch 2 so far
I grew up on TF2 and Overwatch was such a breath of fresh air after TF2 went dry. I feel like the same thing is happening again and its such an awful feeling after 7 years of loyalty
It's interesting watching you go through the 7 stages of Grief with this game: denial, giggling uncontrollably, anger, bargaining, realising you may have wasted years reporting on it, sadness and acceptance.
@@PlutonRising true, but the days of OW1 are long gone and Stylosa is one of those ride or die (pee their pants with excitement) Jeff Kaplan fans. Fortunately he didn't name his channel something like "your overwatch" so he can pivot away from this basically ruined video game as his only niche for content creation.
@@mrjayboo4842 it was definitely fun during its peak (greatest of all time is a stretch) but you're right, the incentive to play, even for guys like Stylosa aren't nearly as pressing as they used to be.
I didn't even download the game. Enjoyed overwatch Just fine then they decided to make a 2 for No reason and made it worse then 1. So i never even bothered.
It’s just so sad. I remember being on lunch break in like 2017 being excited to watch stys tutorial videos or OW news videos. Now I just check in every few months or so just to see the game has been driven into the ground. Sad times.
I played this game almost daily since launch in 2016 until the announcement that PvE was canceled at which point I uninstalled and haven't touched it since. I already wasn't happy with the direction of OW2 and that was the nail in the coffin for me. Despite that, I still watch every one of your videos. I care about the game enough to want to know what is happening so I thank you for your critical coverage, but I also don't feel like I need to play it anymore.
My husband and I have done the same. We love this game and played Overwatch 1 nearly everyday together. But when PVE got cancelled that was it for both of us. Still watch Sty from time to time to get updates but that's it.
I love how stylosa keeps it real. He could obviously benefit from praising the ridiculous state of ow2. But instead he is standing up for the community and calling out blizzard. Even though I could careless about ow2 currently i still watch and like every video.
You're reading my mind! I quit playing a little before life weaver was revealed, and I'm so glad I did. Overwatch was where I met most of my friends, and I had so many good memories, but in recent years, it only made me angry at the game. Now I'm much happier doing literally anything else. I still love your videos because even in the poor state of this game, you still manage to keep your head up, and bring a smile to my face. The world could always use more heroes
I play both and D2 is good compared to overwatch, sure it's a bit dead at the moment but there's always the next expansion which is great for a while. Ow2 has been basically completely dead since launch. Ow1 used to be so unique and always interesting. And it felt like it was made for the hardcore gamers with competitive you could grind forever a bit like d2 raids and such. So sad
Destiny is the game that after years of back and forward learned me to walk away for good when I don't have fun with a game anymore. The constant imbalance, increased pricing, seasonal model, mediocre story etc just became too much. Combine that with constant buffs and nerfs that never felt good in the slightest, and no single bit of food for the PvP side of the game and I was simply done. Sometimes I do miss it, and then when I look at the current game I'm reminded why I walked away, why I made the right decision. Bungie does not care anymore, it was never Activision who were at fault, this was always within Bungie's mindset. Nickle and dime the player base bit by bit, because that way nobody will notice it. They simply do not give a shit anymore, just like Blizzard doesn't give a shit with Overwatch. It sucks, and it is painful to look at something you once loved corrode away. But sometimes the best option is to just walk away.
@@-Invncible it's really not, the higher ups r literally telling the devs not to overdeliever on their game cuz that'll create "unrealistic expectations" that bungle can't reach for some retarded reason
100% agree, just stop playing the game. They try to hook you into the game with all the FOMO deals, BattlePass and dailies.... But if you just don't play the game for a few days you'll quickly realize you're not really missing out on anything except for opportunities to empty your wallet.
As far as Mythic skins, there are currently 32 heroes that do not have one. If they prioritize existing heroes over new ones (big IF), the current heroes would still take 8 years to fill out. In the 32 seasons needed to fill that number there will be 16 new heroes added (assuming they continue on one every other season). For those 16 to get fill out there will be another 8, then another 4 from those, then 2, then 1. So, a total of 63 seasons to have every hero with a mythic skin. That is more than 15 years. And we have no reason to believe that they will prioritize old heroes for mythic skins it could be 15 years before all the current heroes have mythic skins. Of course that is all likely irrelevant since at the rate the game is going it is rather questionable that it can make it 8 years.
Stylosa youre the best, i love that you just straight up tell the truth, youre the only ow channel im still following because of this, the others turn to much of a blind eye, and act as if everything were fine
For those who play Destiny 2 (which Sty mentioned), Datto recently put out a very similar style video about taking breaks due to burnout. I think with how the modern game model for FPS games works (which is admittedly awful) it's definitely important to try and ignore stuff like fomo and just take a break from them
Don't worry, Sty, I haven't played for 3 months, Overwatch genuinely beat the life out of any love for gaming I had for 2 months, I didn't feel like playing anything after I quit overwatch, it's horrible to see what this game has become, one of my favourite games of all time and Acitivision murdered it
Never thought I'd see the day where Stylosa would tell me to not play Overwatch. Times are tough lol but respect for not selling out and telling it how it is Sty.
Lol, the game hasn't changed. So whatever you liked about it before is still there. People just need to stop complaining, you don't have to buy anything to enjoy the full game.
@@VanSanProductionspeople are pissed at them scrounging for money on a game they just stripped a bunch of planned content for, they’re charging for characters now, that’s different, 5v5 is different, we used to be able to get all the skins for free, now free skins cost 20 bucks, there are plenty of things to be angry about
They literally said that the player base was dropping, hmmm I wonder why? What did blizzard think was gonna happen when they admitted to lying to their players? It’s absolutely delusional for them to believe their players would stick around after everything blizzard has done to this game.
They don’t expect them to. They’re gonna milk Overwatch “2” and then shut it down. It’s been their plan since they cancelled PvP before 2 even dropped.
Your take on comp is absolutely bang on. One of my GM friends played when ow2 came out and got bronze 5. We were all in a call and we all laughed so much at it. Such a joke
Another thing that feels pretty scummy to me is that a lot of players dont know you can earn new heroes for free by doing their challenges. I see a lot of saying it pay to win, or feeling pressured to do the battlepass because they dont want to miss out on a new hero.
I actually found a way to enjoy this game again that completely bypasses both balance issues and monetization: I only play quickplay and if the match is badly balanced or just isn't fun I leave, and since I don't care at all about the battle pass or the scammy cosmetics the punishment is effectively 0. I can actually play the game for longer and have more fun because of this tactic.
Considering the amount of mercy skins I regularly see, and back then the one punch skins, I think we've lost any agency about complaining about skin prices. It's clearly working.
Bro you were 1000% spot on. I’m not playing OW2 anymore bc of the “competitive” system. There is no more competition in rank. 5 game rank change system is so stupid. Everything is spot on. Great video
I played the first two seasons and it wasn't great, the game that I used to love became something that felt forced. Like I am forcing myself to play it just to remember all the good days that I've had. The battlepass, the costs of the skins, the bad balancing and the devs not listening to the community. My respect for whoever is behind this game has gone down the drain, but the memories of the OG Overwatch will still be remembered.
OW path to redemption: 1. Skin costs: Rare 3.99, epic 5.99, legendary 9.99. No skin should cost more than $10. Remove bundles. 2. Add more ways to earn currency you can buy skins with. Specific challenges that are not based on # of wins. 3. Remove weapon charms and souvenirs 4. Add ability to customize existing skin colors with 3 basic shade combinations 5. Add mythic skins to have a color gradient to be fully customizable instead of 3 combinations. 6. Add ability to customize and mix and match weapons/items for a hero. Ex: Santa torbyorn gun but pirate torbjorn skin and classic torbjorn turret 7. Ability to buy gold currency for $10.00 and get 110 coins or $25 for 275 coins (10% bonus) 8. Fire the balance team. Setup PTR for beta balance changes and actually listen to player feedback. Soldier buff? Orisa buff? Wtf? 9. Bring back PvE with long term rewards/hero ability modifications/mastery 10. Add custom items as unlocks to battle pass. Like a unique equippable gun for a hero, or trip mine for junk or rockets for pharaoh, etc.
While this would be nice I think your asking a bit too much on the decreasing in price at least in the sense that it would make it completely pointless to ever spend money on the game due to being able to unlock things way too easily and this would lead to the game shutting down from not enough being earned from the game
The faster you guys move on the better. Had about 1000 plus hours on OW1 tried OW2 for a few days and Uninstalled. Haven't looked back. Stay strong guys 💪
Battle passes are so predatory with people’s time it’s honestly taxing. When every game you’re playing has a battle pass and makes you feel like you’re missing out, it makes me not want to play it at all. People 18 and over don’t have time to be playing 24/7.
Yeah, to me every 5 games WIN OR LOSS should show up, that way we are not being tricked psychologically that it looks like we just did a bunch of wins and it not acknowledge the losses too so when we don’t go up or derank it doesn’t feel like shit. They’re worried about us not wanting to play because we see our lost games but it feels worse ignoring them and showing wins and deranking. It’s like the system is handing you a cake just to drop it into the dirt on the next screen. And if people do see a bunch of losses and get frustrated, It’s better they take a break and recuperate rather than brute forcing through their anger and bringing that into the matches which probably contributes to the toxicity.
The other big problem with the system for me is that if you already know you're going to be on a sub 50% winrate at the next rank update, it just makes an already tedious system even more tedious having to win matches just to see a derank screen by the end of it.
You have the most genuine passion for this game I've ever seen, despite losing your mind, as you should, so many times, you still cover it, really makes you question if it's healthy or not
I actually lost my account toward the end of the first game, I didn't think much of it but recenetly made an attempt to retrieve it. As it turns out someone had been playing on it while I was gone, Never gave it to anyone, However I'm glad that someone had access as they've been purchasing every hero and season battle pass and completing them for me. I'm not fond of the developer's decisions in recent times either but can't argue with free stuff.
Stylosa is the only OW content creator I trust. This guy tells it like it is, and says many things that clearly are not driven by his bottom line. Channels like YourOverwatch are the COMPLETE antithesis of this, and their content is CLEARLY dictated by how it affects their bank account. Appreciate this kind of integrity with likes and subs, people. If you appreciate honesty and trustworthiness THEN SUPPORT IT instead of just complaining about a lack of integrity wherever you find it. Promote the good stuff.
I agree one hundred percent. I used to follow Your Overwatch but now he feels like add on to Blizzards monetization strategy. Unsubscribed, and I consciously do not even click on his videos when they pop up in my feed anymore
@@BalkanGames you said it as if it wasn't justified. So the other commenter provided a reason why it makes sense that sty is talking about the game even if he doesn't play much anymore.
What kept me going to play OW1 were the lootboxes you got for every lvl you earned with playing. It was really addicting. But now i get no further motivation to continue playing for hours and hours. I now play like 5 quick matches and I'm done. I did not finish a single BP by casualy playing the game ever since OW2 came out. You have to grind hard for it. And honestly OW2 made me to come back to Paladins, most likely the buggiest game i ever played, but it has a special place in my heart.
I have been playing OW since OW1 season 3, and a month ago was my first ever thought to just quit the game. I have had fun playing this game for the longest time, and now it is just sad the state of the game is so poor. Like u said, I hope in the future the flame will be reignited as well. I have been trying to find another game that is as competitive, as diverse, as fun to play with your friends as OW, and still struggle to find, ended up playing some single player games and just occasionally come back and wish to get that great feeling in OW again.
Honestly, if they'd invested a tenth of a percent of their budget into writing an actual campaign mode, we'd all have the story content we've been asking for for nearly a decade. It's a simple matter of profit over value.
those people are the reason why gaming is as bad as it is. devs will continue to release unfinished games with a packed e shops if morons keep spending money on them.
@@thejunkmanlivesexactly! And I'm sick and tired of the " oh you don't want it don't buy it" quote cause those people just don't understand that they're contributing to gaming being bad
Some of us loved OW1, and believed all the promises they made about OW2. We bought the large coin packs to support the launch, expecting to unlock a lot of neat, fairly priced content throughout the first year. Unfortunately, we were left with the same garbage everyone else got, but now we had a few thousand coins. We were essentially swindled. But...they already got our money, may as well use the coins we have to get as much enjoyment out of the game as we can, before it completely withers.
Mad props for putting out this video. OW2 Devs have decided to burn through veteran players/supporters so they can attracted some seasonal whales for a cashout. Team 4 is building the game now with the intent of fostering that noxious environment. This game is not the same game anymore. I dropped it during Season 4 and I couldn't be happier to move on. Still watching these videos, whenever I can. Sty, I know you built into Overwatch, you invested a lot for this game, you deserve mad respect for keeping it real like this. And when you find a better game to build bigger on, I'll watch there, too.
The fact that it's one of the only games that you can't earn actual relevant currency in the Battle Pass, or at the very least enough that you can purchase the next basic Battle Pass for the credits earned in the season before. It's beyond predatory
Valorant does the same and it’s honestly so much worse ($80 bundles). Idk why games (especially FPS ones) can’t just bother to follow the “Fortnite Blueprint” properly. They add battlepasses and shop skins because they saw Fortnite do it and it brought in a lot of money but the difference is Fortnite clearly puts love and effort into updating their game with new weapons, map updates, new game modes, etc. In Overwatch’s case, it puts all the money related things without putting any visible love into it. I’m not trying to blame the devs because IK they’re getting fucked over by the money hungry higher-ups of the company as a whole. I doubt I’m gonna properly quit this game but it’s like what’s happening to my old favorite game, Apex Legends, all over again.
The biggest problem for me is the balancing. They remove one tank and change nothing else. It made damage boosts flankers and one shots much more of a game changer and really frustrating to deal with
My favorite part is when you mentioned Ranked Im a new OW player this year and i have come to love this game. I truly believe I have Diamond+ skill but because the teammates you're matched with are lacking unfortunately you're gonna lack too!! Nothing more annoying than knowing you've been going off but you know when that 5th win hits and you expect to move up just a little bit for your hard work, but you don't....
This is so sad. I’ve loved this game since release. I met 2 friends I still play games with to this day because of Overwatch. I still play this game. I was one of the ignorant ones who sat there with the house on fire saying “This is fine” but to see it actually dying before my eyes, actually breaks a piece of my heart. This game was my gaming genesis. To see it crumble day after day to greed is so sad.
I’m playing less because it seems more and more people are just not truly playing their best. A lot of people picking crap comps, not trying, or completely throwing for no reason at all other than to be annoying. Exoprimal is keeping me busy and it’s the PvE Overwatch 2 could have been.
Now that I realize it, I have been playing just like you say -- in small bursts. The game is still fun, but the potential of what it could be and seeing that get ruined first hand makes me just not want to touch it.
I played Overwatch 1 during the beta. I played over 400 hours on my main account and purchased the game at full price on 2 alts. I play OW2 the same way I played OW1. Just to have fun. I don't buy anything, just like I did in OW1. The game is fun, I just don't like the way Blizzard has gone with monetising everything, but that doesn't mean you can't still enjoy the game for the game.
I agree 100%, I've stopped playing overwatch 2 and Im not sure if its because im burnt out or the game pushing me to quit. Im leaning towards the game making me quit because leading up to the release of Overwatch 2 I was super excited to play overwatch again, but only ended up playing the game for 2 months before i felt the the game wasn't living up to my expectations of what the game should be/ the dev team and balance team weren't cutting it. soo for now Ive quit overwatch and probably will never play again
I can't be bothered to purchase the PVE missions. It's like paying for a slap in the face at this point. I'll watch a stream to get the tidbits of lore I've been craving for several years now. I used to play this game solo all the time, but now I will only play if I have a few friends who want to jump in, otherwise there's no point. The last two seasons haven't even provided titles that are compelling (the only reason to grind the battlepass if you aren't buying it).
It took me 4 seasons to be able to buy the season pass with my earned challenge coins. I have not spent even 1 dollar since Overwatch 2. I really wish more people would quit spending money on the store.
I started overwatch in 2017, as Game therapy from a neurological disorder. I loved the state of it when I started, I played with alot of friends, now none of them play or have even been on in months. I played for an hour last week. I haven't touched comp since ow1 because of what I have heard. It's just such a disappointment now that one of the games that helped me recover from multiple strokes has turned into this.
Even as a Mercy main who loves collecting all her skins, I'm holding off on my that $26 skin that should cost $5 at most. Not that I'm saying its a bad quality, but it's overpriced for a digital item.
Im the type of person usually willing to drop money on skins in games based on ips i love. I literally refused to for ow2 because the pricing was beyond ridiculous. Im at the point where im honestly done with blizzard as a whole. Its truly sad considering i was more than willing to spend money in the old days of ow where at least getting the chance for a good skin didn't cost me an arm and a leg
I feel this one hundred percent Stylosa. Since Overwatch unfortunately went down this route, I have found myself only enjoying it when playing it with friends because when I play it by myself I would one play three or four games at most then move on. I wish the game was like how it was back in Overwatch 1 to be honest.
I think youre just tired of the game. Cause it is already out for so long. And this is totally fine. Lootboxes compared to battlepasses and the shop + from double tank to single tank are the only changes. The game is exactly the same for the rest compared to OW1. Ive been playing OW1 since 2016, its the same game. What do you wish to return from OW1, that would make you suddenly come back to OW2 and be a big fan of the game again?
@@xbavox personally a PVE that isn’t seasonal or cost money. I’ll admit the PVE we got back in the day was fun and I did look forward to it and it did keep me playing the game again not gonna lie. I just hope for a PVE that stays permanently in the game would make me come back, but who knows what the future holds.
This game was the game that me and my friend would play all the time. This was our game, and we loved it, I loved it. Seeing that OW now has changed for the worse, gaming overall is not the same and me and my friends have to find something new, but it is hard. Nothing is really as 'good' as this game.
quitting OW was one of the best decisions i made regarding a blizzard game. I spent 2 whole seasons trying to convince myself OW2 was a good game. im glad I quit. I look forward to the day when Actiblizzard finally posts how OW is finally going offline .
I feel that in Blizzard's goal to make MORE money, they scared off so much of their audience that they will end up making LESS money than if they'd done nothing. I think the PvE campaign would have more than made its investment back if they released it and brought players back into the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if they kept all the PvE stuff and are planning to release it much later on for another numbers boost. One item at a time. So we end up paying 3-5times what it could have been released at once
@@shanaeverowe9626 i would be very very surprised if they have anything planned for the future, after the news they wasted 4 years of developement cancelling the pve, the next story missions will not be ready until 2024 (if they are ready and not canceled) and the pve that will be relased next season was already made and playable in 2019
Battlepass fits so well to Fortnite because you are always playing on essentially the same character. That means every item in the BP has value to you. Overwatch restricting unlocks based on hero means Blizz had to quickly come up with ”universal” items like weapon charms to just fill out the pass with junk.
Same was said about loot boxes. I always liked them while the majority hated them. Blizzard listened to the communtiy, removed them and replaced them with a much worse system.
@@PeaceMastah Live service is absolutely the issue. When you produce a triple A game with a lot of features, you can sell it for a price and guarantee that you recoup the costs. In the live service model, you can put out all these microtransactions and not see a penny for it for a variety of reasons. That's why most F2P games fail that have no known brand backing them. But even brand names are starting to realize that whales are the main source of income so the microtransactions are becoming more and more whale-centric, which alienates the average consumer even more. This kills games btw as it is not sustainable and whales eventually move on to the next big thing.
Whats crazy about monetization is that its easy to monetize skins if people actually want to play the game. Valorant skins are like $25 usually and they make a ton of money and theres tons of hype around whats in your store that day, what new bundles come out, and even things like Night Market. Of course its also cause skins are universal so you can use them every game. But the price is pretty similar to OW
That's the reason that I wasn't super upset about the store prices at the start, but the skins themselves are nowhere near as cool as Valorant skins. Barely any have unique voicelines, effects, or other things to make them feel worth the money.
Yes the difference is what the skins offer. OW skins barely offer anything to the player besides maybe a couple unique voice lines or some minor customs sounds if you're lucky Val skins offers unique animations, multiple sfx, weapon fx and finishers as well as colour variants for a similar price. And val skins are all first person perspective focused so you actually feel the impact of your skins which isn't the case for OW.
First Sty vid I have liked in a while. You finally opened your eyes and were real with how you feel about the game, with no sugarcoated bs, trying to sound impartial.
It honestly pains me to watch this because just like you I had so much hope and excitement for OW2, only to get beaten down time after time. And as someone who also bought Diablo 4, it’s becoming very clear to me that this wasn’t just a fluke
i am honestly not too bothered by the store prices, its pretty much on par with many other titles (not endorsing it, just stating facts), but its the experience you get from it. valorant skins make overwatch skins look cheap but still it makes me go "wow i would be so tempted if i main this game". then in overwatch you have blizzard removing the special melee sound effects from the epic comic book tracer skin(forget the actual name) in an attempt to make other skins looks better. and they do it in a season when they are trying to sell tracer mythic skin via the battlepass too, not to mention its so meh you forget you are using the mythic skins after awhile. the player experience in every decision they make is in such bad taste
Of all people, Stylosa is the LAST person I expected to make a video like this, It's actually sad and really says something about the state of the game and about Blizzard, but unfortunately as long as people continue to eat up the slop they're producing, they will continue doing it.
Blizzard doesn't really get any of my money anymore. I don't care about battlepass or shop. The only thing I do is play ranked and sometimes play qp with friends. That it's. Only when a hero is in the battlepass do I shell out money for it.
so true, the less you play, the better experience you have with ow2. Content does feel spread thin and they are just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks for players.
I've been watching you for a few years, and I just want to say that I appreciate how honest and critical you've been towards this game. Overwatch quickly became my favorite FPS in 2016 and is one of the few games that I always return to, but the betrayal and breaches of trust shown by Blizzard have left such a sour taste in everybody's mouths. I can't even admit to playing this game without raising eyebrows, and even my friends who play OW2 are constantly complaining about the state it's in. Thank you for being true to yourself, and helping give a voice to the longtime players & the disappointed.
I've been waiting for the PvE stuff to be announced to start caring about Ow again but after they announced they stopped development on it years ago and waited to tell everyone I'm absolutely never playing this game again.
It's just sad how ow has become. The original team had built such a great cast of characters and original game design. I used to play for hours with my friends. Granted now woth work and life there isn't really much time. But I agree how the game now disincentives you to play more. After getting my 3 dailies, I'm just done. There's no difference between comp and quick play, it's the same minus the backfill.
As for me I've lost all hope for this game, I haven't played in around 4 months, I played ow as my main game for 6 years and enjoyed every second of it, until season 3. I will be coming back for the long promised pve (which I have 0 expectations for due to blizzard shattering it), after that I will be taking my leave from one of my favourite games I've played 😢 Goodbye OW, and fxck you Activision Blizzard
put your hands up if your huffing the season 6 hopium lol
Why'd you heart and pin your own comment 😂
I can't find my hopium bro.....
Ran out this season bro sorry
✋🏼
U mean season 6 copium?
The really sad thing for me is that everyone is feeling the same and leaving. Players who survived the massive drought of content only to leave because they were lied to and lost the trust. The worst part is i can see Blizzard just looking at Overwatch, seeing the bad numbers, blaming the game and cancelling it. When the reality is management has bungled it so bad that they took what was one of the most popular games in existence after launch and just repeatedly burnt the player base with every greedy decision.
It feels like you had a relationship, it was great for the first year or so but things started to die off a bit in the bedroom. But you still love them and enjoy their company every day.
Then they go on a 3year sole searching retreat with promises to come back as a much better person. But in those 3 years they did nothing but sit around eating nothing but Doritos and mountain dew.
Now they are back and they are the same person underneath, but it's an ugly version of them who is always demanding money for stuff that just doesn't make either of your lives better.
Sex life is all but gone and you're thinking "is it time to move on? Maybe I should have left years ago"
You know that’s exactly it for me - droughts of content with the promise of Overwatch 2 turning things round only for the game to have yet another drought of content and the most promising content being cancelled.
Business reality: The management deserves the credit for all the financial success a game may have, but the customers and developers will feel the consequences and get the blame when the game dies because of greedy monetization practices. This is how these people think.
Once they F'ed me and everyone else in the promised PVE I quit for good back in early May of this year. I have 6000 hours been playing since 2016 beta and I'm finally done with this crack head company and their broken promises. All my buddies quit back in May as well. We'll never look back ever again
Worst way to give up on something you enjoy is for reasons inherently not under your control. Love overwatch but just can't play anymore and it has nothing to do with the universe, but simply the management of the game and business decisions.
Overwatch 1 just gave you a lot more value as a player. There was an option to earn skins by grinding or by chance and getting lucky in a lootbox.
I paid full price pre order and loved the unlock grind.. the fact that i felt like my time and money spent was being honored made me spend even more money.
Shock that people are more willing to spend money when they dont feel like they are being robbed or their time is being wasted huh?
Miss OW1 man...
I preordered the game at full price too and 100% agree with your comment. There's definitely a lot of wasted potential with OW2 and the direction that they've gone with the game has done nothing but made it an unnecessarily expensive lackluster experience with so much content behind a paywall, especially when compared to OW1. I hate that they thought doing that, along with making the game free to play was a good idea, especially when literally so many people already preordered and bought the game by the time they made that decision, so it's kind of like we all essentially wasted our money because we basically could have gotten the game for free. Then again it seems like their target audience now is new players and not so much anyone else, which is kind of screwed up honestly.
Ceos fast cash grab. OG Ow1 player as well. Love the game hate the state of it..
Because children can save up some lunch money and afford a skin in a week or so where I live compare to buying a full price game. Blizzard and every other companies that do in game microtransaction and battlepass know it. You are simply not the game target audience anymore if you understand the value proposition. Anecdotal evidence and all but... my little cousin would only play game with a battlepass in it because he feel excited every time it rank up :))
@@anemone5870But they could literally save the same money for a couple more weeks to get a full price game...
So they have no patience is what you're saying.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Yes they can, but why would they? They are happier with constant drip feeding of content for a game that run well and they enjoyed. Not to mention most of the recent full priced AAA game doesn't exactly scream quality or run all that well. When you payed for a full priced game and it run like shit play like shit, people will stop caring about them. If anything the whole gaming industry is the reason why it become like this.
Honestly I'm just tired of battle passes in general. I feel like its a thing of the past and something made for the players needs to be created.
I would gladly welcome the return of paid DLC and expansion packs. At then developers have to put in proper work, so that people are inclined to buy them
There’s this new game named Deceive Inc (it’s like a Spy FPS) and it allows you to continue progressing old battle passes. Overwatch’s passes would be significantly better with this feature. I also love how they just completely ignored the community when everyone told them no one wanted heroes in the battle pass.
deep rock galactic has perfected the battlepass model to prioritize players over payouts, its completely free, and everything you dont get in that season gets put in the regular loot pool so you can still get it in later seasons, more games need to learn from deep rock galactic
@@ninochaosdrache3189 exactly if a game offers a great experience and then dlc comes along offering another great experience then that would make players inclined to buy the dlc as well
I just want to feel like I'm not in an abusive relationship with a game. The FOMO, the constant treadmill, wasting the player's time... I just can't. I don't want to log on every day to get a reward like a rat hitting a lever in a skinner box, and I don't want to have to get on every day to do the digital equivalent of the dishes.
There was no greater feeling than a skin being released for the new event for your favourite hero/main, so you level up and up, open a loot box, see that gold disc, hope, and get a big score of credits to buy that new, awesome looking skin.
Or even playing the game for hours to win credits over time to get unlocks for your favourite hero. There was gratification.
Overwatch 2 has not only killed that feeling, but made it impossible to feel again.
Yet everyone said it was garbage
Yet everyone said it wasn’t good
Did it feel good v
It 100 % did. I did not complain about the loot boxes at all. Playing the lottery can be entertaining when done responsibly, like opening a pack of baseball cards. Played at least weekly with friends for years before OW2 came out. Reducing the player numbers to 5 per team, introducing the battle pass, and locking new heroes behind that battle pass have so far killed my ability to return to the game the three times I’ve tried overwatch 2. And all my friends have switched to other games.
Been having more success getting at least half the group to try Valorant over the past 2 months. It’s a solid hero shooter meets counter Strike but not filling the Niche OW1 had.
Battle passes paywalling/timegating heroes encourage players to be married to the game but I have enough commitments in real life thanks.
Try gambling, you will have the same feeling 😅
@@coolturista8714 I have, and I didn’t because money is not in its own aesthetically pleasing.
@@TheStarspireplay counterstrike
I don’t play Overwatch 2, this video just randomly popped in my feed. I remember back in the day watching Stylosa videos for Overwatch 1, you were my favorite Overwatch UA-camr because of your vibrance, happiness, and positivity. Watching this video wrecked me, this game is killing you, Stylosa. Please, please, run as far as you can, I know this is your job and you need it to make money but switch to a different game. I would love to watch your content on anything besides Overwatch 2 and I believe that others would do that too because you have such a great personality. Living in the negativity that these developers are forcing on you cannot be good for your mental health, please, find a new niche.
True, I remember his "this is mental!" quote as clear as the day. This game is no fun anymore.
OW2 has way more players right now than ever before. 5v5 is 10 times better than 6v6. Ignore the doomer youtubers.
@@user-jl7xj5iz9khe said ow2 had more players, not overwatch In general, it’s still pretty enjoyable honestly I just ignore the battle pass stuff and get to play with all the old heroes I’ve had, 5v5 is engaging enough and it gets new content every now and then, I play a lot of games where the developer hates the player but at this point I just accept it and enjoy the actual game.
@@user-jl7xj5iz9k I don't think there's any asking going on necessarily.
@@jacocoetzee123 All the things you have said are indeed true but the argument you're making has nothing to do with the youtubers, what we are saying is OW2 is not FUN anymore; at least how much fun we were used to having.
Just because it has a healthy population, doesn't guarantees a healthy enjoyment, the feeling of accomplishment and fulfilment is gone.
I'm a former wow addict watching the overwatch playerbase come to the same realization we did a few years ago. I'm sorry for you all, the faster you move on the easier it is
I really havent think about that. Ure so right man. They kill everything they touch.
@@Nana7Evn yes both games are ruined
Uninstalling OW2 gave me the same liberating feeling after I uninstalled WoW... Now to sink my time into D4 lol
@@ricksondenden5406 d4 sucks just as much lol
Move on to what, is the problem
It's unfortunate that this is the state of the game now. This is not what I would have expected 6 years ago when I fell in love with this game to be a monetization wall.
It's the heart broken truth that all OV players must face.. 😕
The amazing game we all loved, died years ago. This is just a corpse.
one of the biggest letdowns for me, was the cost of everything. $20 "discounted" skins is absurd. Every season I have been playing less and less
Consider that the Minimum Wage in the US is $7.25/hr.
so happy that I stayed away from paying them any money. my Buddys bought season 1 bttl pass in "support" of blizzard and I owner why. lol
Apex is more greedy calm down
@@jasonadersonwedion9874 Correct me if im wrong but, doesn't everyone use the same guns in Apex, you can use your fancy gun on anybody.
I think for Fps games thats enough for most players, Look Valorant people shelling out 100$$ for that gun skin pack.
You won't see the character skin most of the time.
If you are playing for skins, then you are playing for the wrong reason
Sty, I have a ton of respect for the fact that you're essentially saying "Yeah, I get the battlepass free every season, it's what Blizzard does for content creators, whatever, this game sucks." A lot of others in that position would usually try and act as if it isn't all that bad, or focus on what small positives they can, ignore the negatives, etc.
You not doing that is greatly appreciated.
As someone who grew up playing this and has memories from Torbjörn's Armour Pack days, its sad to see this happen to the game, I haven't even been able to bring myself to play Overwatch 2 so far
You made the right choice. The balancing of OW2 so far has been a complete joke...
Bro I remember when the first content was competitive mode and you could have 6 junkrats on the team.
Remember when this game used to be fun?
@@DuderTuber-zu6oqYeah I love Spunkrat spam.
@@DuderTuber-zu6oq or when Bastion had his own shield. Good old days.
I grew up on TF2 and Overwatch was such a breath of fresh air after TF2 went dry. I feel like the same thing is happening again and its such an awful feeling after 7 years of loyalty
It's interesting watching you go through the 7 stages of Grief with this game: denial, giggling uncontrollably, anger, bargaining, realising you may have wasted years reporting on it, sadness and acceptance.
I Wouldn't say "wasted", the OW1 years were great.
@@PlutonRising true, but the days of OW1 are long gone and Stylosa is one of those ride or die (pee their pants with excitement) Jeff Kaplan fans. Fortunately he didn't name his channel something like "your overwatch" so he can pivot away from this basically ruined video game as his only niche for content creation.
@@mrjayboo4842 it was definitely fun during its peak (greatest of all time is a stretch) but you're right, the incentive to play, even for guys like Stylosa aren't nearly as pressing as they used to be.
@@PlutonRising LMAO........No. they weren't.
@@MichaelJones-rz5swincorrect
I uninstalled Overwatch months ago, but I still love to watch these videos to validate my choice.
Not gonna lie, same here.
none cares
@@gamerbeast3616 You might wanna reread what you wrote because this just makes you look really stupid.
@@gamerbeast3616 awww look at the little OW2 Bot defending this crap game 😂
@@gamerbeast3616I do
Stopped playing this game over a month ago. Best gaming discussion ever made.
*decision
Just a month. Once warzone came out I had no reason to play this game
@@jax1376Thank you. Auto incorrect strikes again.
@@gchase824 hear you on that. I tried to play Warzone, but it was too buggy to play.
I didn't even download the game. Enjoyed overwatch Just fine then they decided to make a 2 for No reason and made it worse then 1. So i never even bothered.
This game means a lot to you, it means a lot to many of us. Don't ever feel wrong for caring. Even if it's "just a game".
It’s just so sad. I remember being on lunch break in like 2017 being excited to watch stys tutorial videos or OW news videos. Now I just check in every few months or so just to see the game has been driven into the ground. Sad times.
Its hard watching something you loved slowly wither away in front of your eyes.
Overwatch: The Story of Wasted Potential
I played this game almost daily since launch in 2016 until the announcement that PvE was canceled at which point I uninstalled and haven't touched it since. I already wasn't happy with the direction of OW2 and that was the nail in the coffin for me. Despite that, I still watch every one of your videos. I care about the game enough to want to know what is happening so I thank you for your critical coverage, but I also don't feel like I need to play it anymore.
Same here, except I've gone as far as to uninstall the game 💔
Yeah I'm in the same boat
My husband and I have done the same. We love this game and played Overwatch 1 nearly everyday together. But when PVE got cancelled that was it for both of us. Still watch Sty from time to time to get updates but that's it.
same.
Same, I’ve played this game since it’s first summer games. But this would be the last for me
I love how stylosa keeps it real. He could obviously benefit from praising the ridiculous state of ow2. But instead he is standing up for the community and calling out blizzard. Even though I could careless about ow2 currently i still watch and like every video.
It's so sad that one of the greatest games ever made (OW1) became this. It is truly heartbreaking.
I would say it was never that great.
@@FA-nd9uk 2016-2017 (MAYBE 2018) was peak Overwatch
You're reading my mind! I quit playing a little before life weaver was revealed, and I'm so glad I did. Overwatch was where I met most of my friends, and I had so many good memories, but in recent years, it only made me angry at the game. Now I'm much happier doing literally anything else. I still love your videos because even in the poor state of this game, you still manage to keep your head up, and bring a smile to my face. The world could always use more heroes
Man, it’s sad to see great games in this state. I live with the “what it could be” from D2, and can totally relate to OW2 community’s sentiment
I play both and D2 is good compared to overwatch, sure it's a bit dead at the moment but there's always the next expansion which is great for a while. Ow2 has been basically completely dead since launch. Ow1 used to be so unique and always interesting. And it felt like it was made for the hardcore gamers with competitive you could grind forever a bit like d2 raids and such. So sad
me too brother.
Destiny is the game that after years of back and forward learned me to walk away for good when I don't have fun with a game anymore. The constant imbalance, increased pricing, seasonal model, mediocre story etc just became too much. Combine that with constant buffs and nerfs that never felt good in the slightest, and no single bit of food for the PvP side of the game and I was simply done.
Sometimes I do miss it, and then when I look at the current game I'm reminded why I walked away, why I made the right decision. Bungie does not care anymore, it was never Activision who were at fault, this was always within Bungie's mindset. Nickle and dime the player base bit by bit, because that way nobody will notice it.
They simply do not give a shit anymore, just like Blizzard doesn't give a shit with Overwatch.
It sucks, and it is painful to look at something you once loved corrode away. But sometimes the best option is to just walk away.
D2 is in a much better state then OW2
@@-Invncible it's really not, the higher ups r literally telling the devs not to overdeliever on their game cuz that'll create "unrealistic expectations" that bungle can't reach for some retarded reason
100% agree, just stop playing the game. They try to hook you into the game with all the FOMO deals, BattlePass and dailies.... But if you just don't play the game for a few days you'll quickly realize you're not really missing out on anything except for opportunities to empty your wallet.
As far as Mythic skins, there are currently 32 heroes that do not have one. If they prioritize existing heroes over new ones (big IF), the current heroes would still take 8 years to fill out. In the 32 seasons needed to fill that number there will be 16 new heroes added (assuming they continue on one every other season). For those 16 to get fill out there will be another 8, then another 4 from those, then 2, then 1. So, a total of 63 seasons to have every hero with a mythic skin. That is more than 15 years. And we have no reason to believe that they will prioritize old heroes for mythic skins it could be 15 years before all the current heroes have mythic skins. Of course that is all likely irrelevant since at the rate the game is going it is rather questionable that it can make it 8 years.
You are right, but all mythic skins so far were on old heroes, xcept kiriko
At this rate I'll be surprised if ow2 it makes it to 2 years.
@@patrickstar1164Junker Queen has a mythic skin too.
That’s assuming they don’t add a second mythic skins for some characters before others even have their first…
Yeah, bold of us to assume we’ll get a hero every other season lol
Stylosa youre the best, i love that you just straight up tell the truth, youre the only ow channel im still following because of this, the others turn to much of a blind eye, and act as if everything were fine
For those who play Destiny 2 (which Sty mentioned), Datto recently put out a very similar style video about taking breaks due to burnout. I think with how the modern game model for FPS games works (which is admittedly awful) it's definitely important to try and ignore stuff like fomo and just take a break from them
I have been taking a break from destiny since d2 was announced, lol.
Don't worry, Sty, I haven't played for 3 months, Overwatch genuinely beat the life out of any love for gaming I had for 2 months, I didn't feel like playing anything after I quit overwatch, it's horrible to see what this game has become, one of my favourite games of all time and Acitivision murdered it
I had the same experience but getting out of Blizzard games has been one of the best choices I've ever made. It's been liberating honestly.
i recommend picking up Remnant 2. Such a awesome game that costs the price of 1 Overwatch “premium” skin.
@@ranjnijan3446Bro I literally commented this before I saw this comment. Remnant 2 has been a blast so far. 100% worth the price
if you wanna reignite your love for gaming, id recommend deep rock galactic
I haven’t played Overwatch 2 in months but I still love to stop by and watch every Stylosa video
stylosa is my way of knowing what is happening with this since i stopped playing when 2 launched
Same
Same
I don’t even get excited for seasonal events now. It takes real skill to mess up that bad.
Never thought I'd see the day where Stylosa would tell me to not play Overwatch.
Times are tough lol but respect for not selling out and telling it how it is Sty.
Way ahead of you, haven’t played since they admitted to lying about PvP this whole time. Such a shame, ow was my favorite game since release.
Same, I can't forgive them for misleading their fans
Lol, the game hasn't changed. So whatever you liked about it before is still there. People just need to stop complaining, you don't have to buy anything to enjoy the full game.
What i mean is just all the negatively is overblown. People want new stuff all the time, have short attention spans and give up so quickly.
@@VanSanProductions"hey im gonna kill your old family dog and replace whith a Golden retriever, exept he's deaf,blind and can't retrieve shit"
@@VanSanProductionspeople are pissed at them scrounging for money on a game they just stripped a bunch of planned content for, they’re charging for characters now, that’s different, 5v5 is different, we used to be able to get all the skins for free, now free skins cost 20 bucks, there are plenty of things to be angry about
They literally said that the player base was dropping, hmmm I wonder why? What did blizzard think was gonna happen when they admitted to lying to their players? It’s absolutely delusional for them to believe their players would stick around after everything blizzard has done to this game.
They don’t expect them to. They’re gonna milk Overwatch “2” and then shut it down. It’s been their plan since they cancelled PvP before 2 even dropped.
Your take on comp is absolutely bang on. One of my GM friends played when ow2 came out and got bronze 5. We were all in a call and we all laughed so much at it. Such a joke
Yeah me and my boyfriend hit bronze too and had to carry us out. Ridiculous bug
@@LightingCatxD I dont even know if it was possible to start comp and getting that isnt bronze 5
@@Vipex_14it was, i started in silver & crawled my way back up
Another thing that feels pretty scummy to me is that a lot of players dont know you can earn new heroes for free by doing their challenges. I see a lot of saying it pay to win, or feeling pressured to do the battlepass because they dont want to miss out on a new hero.
I actually found a way to enjoy this game again that completely bypasses both balance issues and monetization: I only play quickplay and if the match is badly balanced or just isn't fun I leave, and since I don't care at all about the battle pass or the scammy cosmetics the punishment is effectively 0. I can actually play the game for longer and have more fun because of this tactic.
Considering the amount of mercy skins I regularly see, and back then the one punch skins, I think we've lost any agency about complaining about skin prices. It's clearly working.
Thank you for being our voice during this time Sty.
Bro you were 1000% spot on. I’m not playing OW2 anymore bc of the “competitive” system. There is no more competition in rank. 5 game rank change system is so stupid. Everything is spot on. Great video
I played the first two seasons and it wasn't great, the game that I used to love became something that felt forced. Like I am forcing myself to play it just to remember all the good days that I've had. The battlepass, the costs of the skins, the bad balancing and the devs not listening to the community. My respect for whoever is behind this game has gone down the drain, but the memories of the OG Overwatch will still be remembered.
OW path to redemption:
1. Skin costs: Rare 3.99, epic 5.99, legendary 9.99. No skin should cost more than $10. Remove bundles.
2. Add more ways to earn currency you can buy skins with. Specific challenges that are not based on # of wins.
3. Remove weapon charms and souvenirs
4. Add ability to customize existing skin colors with 3 basic shade combinations
5. Add mythic skins to have a color gradient to be fully customizable instead of 3 combinations.
6. Add ability to customize and mix and match weapons/items for a hero. Ex: Santa torbyorn gun but pirate torbjorn skin and classic torbjorn turret
7. Ability to buy gold currency for $10.00 and get 110 coins or $25 for 275 coins (10% bonus)
8. Fire the balance team. Setup PTR for beta balance changes and actually listen to player feedback. Soldier buff? Orisa buff? Wtf?
9. Bring back PvE with long term rewards/hero ability modifications/mastery
10. Add custom items as unlocks to battle pass. Like a unique equippable gun for a hero, or trip mine for junk or rockets for pharaoh, etc.
souvenirs i agree with but why weapon charms? they’re cute and fun and allow more customization
This is too good to be true but it's what needs to be done to return it to its former glory.
While this would be nice I think your asking a bit too much on the decreasing in price at least in the sense that it would make it completely pointless to ever spend money on the game due to being able to unlock things way too easily and this would lead to the game shutting down from not enough being earned from the game
blame fortnite for the aggregiously high skin prices
@@lukeGGleeSo damn true. Ever since that garbage became the “trend” games have gone down hill with skyrocket in MT. I will forever hate trashnite.
stylosa being speechless at this game is like a teacher reading a students report that they wrote in 5 minutes before class
Don’t worry Stylosa. Most of us stopped playing once the pve announcement came out.
The faster you guys move on the better. Had about 1000 plus hours on OW1 tried OW2 for a few days and Uninstalled. Haven't looked back. Stay strong guys 💪
Battle passes are so predatory with people’s time it’s honestly taxing. When every game you’re playing has a battle pass and makes you feel like you’re missing out, it makes me not want to play it at all. People 18 and over don’t have time to be playing 24/7.
Yeah, to me every 5 games WIN OR LOSS should show up, that way we are not being tricked psychologically that it looks like we just did a bunch of wins and it not acknowledge the losses too so when we don’t go up or derank it doesn’t feel like shit. They’re worried about us not wanting to play because we see our lost games but it feels worse ignoring them and showing wins and deranking. It’s like the system is handing you a cake just to drop it into the dirt on the next screen. And if people do see a bunch of losses and get frustrated, It’s better they take a break and recuperate rather than brute forcing through their anger and bringing that into the matches which probably contributes to the toxicity.
The other big problem with the system for me is that if you already know you're going to be on a sub 50% winrate at the next rank update, it just makes an already tedious system even more tedious having to win matches just to see a derank screen by the end of it.
@@burni988 agreed, splitting the wins and losses just isn’t it
You have the most genuine passion for this game I've ever seen, despite losing your mind, as you should, so many times, you still cover it, really makes you question if it's healthy or not
I could listen to an hour of you validating everything I feel about this game I have loved for 7 years.
I actually lost my account toward the end of the first game, I didn't think much of it but recenetly made an attempt to retrieve it.
As it turns out someone had been playing on it while I was gone, Never gave it to anyone, However I'm glad that someone had access as they've been purchasing every hero and season battle pass and completing them for me.
I'm not fond of the developer's decisions in recent times either but can't argue with free stuff.
This is what i have been saying, the only way for anything to happen is for us to quite literally stop playing it.
I've just grown so numb to the monetization that my brain just blocks it from me, and I only see the game for the main gameplay and amazing characters
Stylosa is the only OW content creator I trust. This guy tells it like it is, and says many things that clearly are not driven by his bottom line. Channels like YourOverwatch are the COMPLETE antithesis of this, and their content is CLEARLY dictated by how it affects their bank account. Appreciate this kind of integrity with likes and subs, people. If you appreciate honesty and trustworthiness THEN SUPPORT IT instead of just complaining about a lack of integrity wherever you find it. Promote the good stuff.
Stylosa keeps complaining about a game he barely plays.
I agree one hundred percent. I used to follow Your Overwatch but now he feels like add on to Blizzards monetization strategy. Unsubscribed, and I consciously do not even click on his videos when they pop up in my feed anymore
@@BalkanGamesbut still a game that was a large part of his life for the past 6 years. He is commentating on its downfall.
@@marcsonic01 Yeah, duh. That's all he does nowadays. That's my point.
@@BalkanGames you said it as if it wasn't justified. So the other commenter provided a reason why it makes sense that sty is talking about the game even if he doesn't play much anymore.
What kept me going to play OW1 were the lootboxes you got for every lvl you earned with playing. It was really addicting. But now i get no further motivation to continue playing for hours and hours. I now play like 5 quick matches and I'm done. I did not finish a single BP by casualy playing the game ever since OW2 came out. You have to grind hard for it.
And honestly OW2 made me to come back to Paladins, most likely the buggiest game i ever played, but it has a special place in my heart.
I have been playing OW since OW1 season 3, and a month ago was my first ever thought to just quit the game. I have had fun playing this game for the longest time, and now it is just sad the state of the game is so poor. Like u said, I hope in the future the flame will be reignited as well.
I have been trying to find another game that is as competitive, as diverse, as fun to play with your friends as OW, and still struggle to find, ended up playing some single player games and just occasionally come back and wish to get that great feeling in OW again.
Honestly, if they'd invested a tenth of a percent of their budget into writing an actual campaign mode, we'd all have the story content we've been asking for for nearly a decade.
It's a simple matter of profit over value.
I honestly pray for the people who buy items from this shop, they've got a lot to learn 💀
those people are the reason why gaming is as bad as it is. devs will continue to release unfinished games with a packed e shops if morons keep spending money on them.
@@thejunkmanlivesexactly! And I'm sick and tired of the " oh you don't want it don't buy it" quote cause those people just don't understand that they're contributing to gaming being bad
Some of us loved OW1, and believed all the promises they made about OW2. We bought the large coin packs to support the launch, expecting to unlock a lot of neat, fairly priced content throughout the first year. Unfortunately, we were left with the same garbage everyone else got, but now we had a few thousand coins. We were essentially swindled. But...they already got our money, may as well use the coins we have to get as much enjoyment out of the game as we can, before it completely withers.
They don't deserve prayers
@@thejunkmanlivesbought the One Punch Man skins, easiest $44 of my life
Mad props for putting out this video. OW2 Devs have decided to burn through veteran players/supporters so they can attracted some seasonal whales for a cashout. Team 4 is building the game now with the intent of fostering that noxious environment. This game is not the same game anymore. I dropped it during Season 4 and I couldn't be happier to move on. Still watching these videos, whenever I can.
Sty, I know you built into Overwatch, you invested a lot for this game, you deserve mad respect for keeping it real like this. And when you find a better game to build bigger on, I'll watch there, too.
The fact that it's one of the only games that you can't earn actual relevant currency in the Battle Pass, or at the very least enough that you can purchase the next basic Battle Pass for the credits earned in the season before. It's beyond predatory
Valorant does the same and it’s honestly so much worse ($80 bundles). Idk why games (especially FPS ones) can’t just bother to follow the “Fortnite Blueprint” properly. They add battlepasses and shop skins because they saw Fortnite do it and it brought in a lot of money but the difference is Fortnite clearly puts love and effort into updating their game with new weapons, map updates, new game modes, etc. In Overwatch’s case, it puts all the money related things without putting any visible love into it. I’m not trying to blame the devs because IK they’re getting fucked over by the money hungry higher-ups of the company as a whole. I doubt I’m gonna properly quit this game but it’s like what’s happening to my old favorite game, Apex Legends, all over again.
Stopped playing about 1 month into OW2, haven't turned it on a single time since then.
At Least this man is honest about the game. We all need someone who loves the game as much as we do. Who also will say what is needed
You know it's bad when stylosa says "f*ck" without muting it
The biggest problem for me is the balancing. They remove one tank and change nothing else. It made damage boosts flankers and one shots much more of a game changer and really frustrating to deal with
They don't care. Players are addicts and blizz will milk them till there's nothing left.
Showing that they didn't test or bother to look into the future problem.
My favorite part is when you mentioned Ranked
Im a new OW player this year and i have come to love this game. I truly believe I have Diamond+ skill but because the teammates you're matched with are lacking unfortunately you're gonna lack too!!
Nothing more annoying than knowing you've been going off but you know when that 5th win hits and you expect to move up just a little bit for your hard work, but you don't....
This is so sad. I’ve loved this game since release. I met 2 friends I still play games with to this day because of Overwatch. I still play this game. I was one of the ignorant ones who sat there with the house on fire saying “This is fine” but to see it actually dying before my eyes, actually breaks a piece of my heart. This game was my gaming genesis. To see it crumble day after day to greed is so sad.
… way ahead of you Sty. I hope there’s a way to host our own servers once things shutdown.
I’m playing less because it seems more and more people are just not truly playing their best. A lot of people picking crap comps, not trying, or completely throwing for no reason at all other than to be annoying.
Exoprimal is keeping me busy and it’s the PvE Overwatch 2 could have been.
Exoprimal ain't great
Now that I realize it, I have been playing just like you say -- in small bursts. The game is still fun, but the potential of what it could be and seeing that get ruined first hand makes me just not want to touch it.
I already did stop. The PVE cancelation killed it tbh.
I played Overwatch 1 during the beta. I played over 400 hours on my main account and purchased the game at full price on 2 alts.
I play OW2 the same way I played OW1. Just to have fun. I don't buy anything, just like I did in OW1.
The game is fun, I just don't like the way Blizzard has gone with monetising everything, but that doesn't mean you can't still enjoy the game for the game.
I liked the ow 1 rank system. It showed progress and was a per match thing which I personally liked. Account level too. I never played ow2 though
I agree 100%, I've stopped playing overwatch 2 and Im not sure if its because im burnt out or the game pushing me to quit. Im leaning towards the game making me quit because leading up to the release of Overwatch 2 I was super excited to play overwatch again, but only ended up playing the game for 2 months before i felt the the game wasn't living up to my expectations of what the game should be/ the dev team and balance team weren't cutting it. soo for now Ive quit overwatch and probably will never play again
I can't be bothered to purchase the PVE missions. It's like paying for a slap in the face at this point. I'll watch a stream to get the tidbits of lore I've been craving for several years now. I used to play this game solo all the time, but now I will only play if I have a few friends who want to jump in, otherwise there's no point. The last two seasons haven't even provided titles that are compelling (the only reason to grind the battlepass if you aren't buying it).
It took me 4 seasons to be able to buy the season pass with my earned challenge coins. I have not spent even 1 dollar since Overwatch 2. I really wish more people would quit spending money on the store.
I left durring the OW1 content drought . Came back for 2 months of OW2 then left again . Never looked back .
I started overwatch in 2017, as Game therapy from a neurological disorder. I loved the state of it when I started, I played with alot of friends, now none of them play or have even been on in months. I played for an hour last week. I haven't touched comp since ow1 because of what I have heard. It's just such a disappointment now that one of the games that helped me recover from multiple strokes has turned into this.
Even as a Mercy main who loves collecting all her skins, I'm holding off on my that $26 skin that should cost $5 at most. Not that I'm saying its a bad quality, but it's overpriced for a digital item.
Why should it cost $5 at most? Your suggestion is as arbitrary as the actual price.
Im the type of person usually willing to drop money on skins in games based on ips i love. I literally refused to for ow2 because the pricing was beyond ridiculous. Im at the point where im honestly done with blizzard as a whole. Its truly sad considering i was more than willing to spend money in the old days of ow where at least getting the chance for a good skin didn't cost me an arm and a leg
I feel this one hundred percent Stylosa. Since Overwatch unfortunately went down this route, I have found myself only enjoying it when playing it with friends because when I play it by myself I would one play three or four games at most then move on. I wish the game was like how it was back in Overwatch 1 to be honest.
I think youre just tired of the game. Cause it is already out for so long. And this is totally fine.
Lootboxes compared to battlepasses and the shop + from double tank to single tank are the only changes. The game is exactly the same for the rest compared to OW1. Ive been playing OW1 since 2016, its the same game. What do you wish to return from OW1, that would make you suddenly come back to OW2 and be a big fan of the game again?
@@xbavox personally a PVE that isn’t seasonal or cost money. I’ll admit the PVE we got back in the day was fun and I did look forward to it and it did keep me playing the game again not gonna lie. I just hope for a PVE that stays permanently in the game would make me come back, but who knows what the future holds.
@@xbavox another part is that I am tired of the game not gonna lie 😂
Yeah i understand, for the people who liked the pve part and were looking forward to it, is a real bummer.
@@xbavox agree
This game was the game that me and my friend would play all the time. This was our game, and we loved it, I loved it. Seeing that OW now has changed for the worse, gaming overall is not the same and me and my friends have to find something new, but it is hard. Nothing is really as 'good' as this game.
quitting OW was one of the best decisions i made regarding a blizzard game. I spent 2 whole seasons trying to convince myself OW2 was a good game. im glad I quit. I look forward to the day when Actiblizzard finally posts how OW is finally going offline .
I feel that in Blizzard's goal to make MORE money, they scared off so much of their audience that they will end up making LESS money than if they'd done nothing. I think the PvE campaign would have more than made its investment back if they released it and brought players back into the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if they kept all the PvE stuff and are planning to release it much later on for another numbers boost. One item at a time. So we end up paying 3-5times what it could have been released at once
@@shanaeverowe9626that’s honestly likely to be the move.
@@shanaeverowe9626 i would be very very surprised if they have anything planned for the future, after the news they wasted 4 years of developement cancelling the pve, the next story missions will not be ready until 2024 (if they are ready and not canceled) and the pve that will be relased next season was already made and playable in 2019
I quit overwatch 2 when they said pve was canceled
I have not touched the game in about a month. Still watch your vid though just to keep up-to-date with the state of the game.
Battlepass fits so well to Fortnite because you are always playing on essentially the same character. That means every item in the BP has value to you.
Overwatch restricting unlocks based on hero means Blizz had to quickly come up with ”universal” items like weapon charms to just fill out the pass with junk.
I deleted the game and haven’t played since pve was canceled
I stopped playing this game because, half the people are ridiculously toxic, team balancing is terrible, and finally the ranking system is unfair.
It's sad that I went from loving this game, to deleting this game 😢
What are you playing instead?
This whole thing can be boiled down to 2 words: Live Service. Welcome to modern "gaming".
It's not too late to burn live service to the ground tbh. But we need to find a developer that wants to go in that direction and throw money at them.
Same was said about loot boxes. I always liked them while the majority hated them. Blizzard listened to the communtiy, removed them and replaced them with a much worse system.
@@hendrik6156Nobody hated the OW loot box system
Live service isn’t the issue.. it’s how they’ve decided to monetize it lol
@@PeaceMastah Live service is absolutely the issue. When you produce a triple A game with a lot of features, you can sell it for a price and guarantee that you recoup the costs. In the live service model, you can put out all these microtransactions and not see a penny for it for a variety of reasons. That's why most F2P games fail that have no known brand backing them. But even brand names are starting to realize that whales are the main source of income so the microtransactions are becoming more and more whale-centric, which alienates the average consumer even more. This kills games btw as it is not sustainable and whales eventually move on to the next big thing.
Whats crazy about monetization is that its easy to monetize skins if people actually want to play the game. Valorant skins are like $25 usually and they make a ton of money and theres tons of hype around whats in your store that day, what new bundles come out, and even things like Night Market. Of course its also cause skins are universal so you can use them every game. But the price is pretty similar to OW
That's the reason that I wasn't super upset about the store prices at the start, but the skins themselves are nowhere near as cool as Valorant skins. Barely any have unique voicelines, effects, or other things to make them feel worth the money.
Yes the difference is what the skins offer. OW skins barely offer anything to the player besides maybe a couple unique voice lines or some minor customs sounds if you're lucky
Val skins offers unique animations, multiple sfx, weapon fx and finishers as well as colour variants for a similar price. And val skins are all first person perspective focused so you actually feel the impact of your skins which isn't the case for OW.
First Sty vid I have liked in a while. You finally opened your eyes and were real with how you feel about the game, with no sugarcoated bs, trying to sound impartial.
Wish we had OW1 back honestly. Also the report system is super easy to abuse if you have a mass of people.
It honestly pains me to watch this because just like you I had so much hope and excitement for OW2, only to get beaten down time after time. And as someone who also bought Diablo 4, it’s becoming very clear to me that this wasn’t just a fluke
i am honestly not too bothered by the store prices, its pretty much on par with many other titles (not endorsing it, just stating facts), but its the experience you get from it. valorant skins make overwatch skins look cheap but still it makes me go "wow i would be so tempted if i main this game". then in overwatch you have blizzard removing the special melee sound effects from the epic comic book tracer skin(forget the actual name) in an attempt to make other skins looks better. and they do it in a season when they are trying to sell tracer mythic skin via the battlepass too, not to mention its so meh you forget you are using the mythic skins after awhile. the player experience in every decision they make is in such bad taste
Of all people, Stylosa is the LAST person I expected to make a video like this, It's actually sad and really says something about the state of the game and about Blizzard, but unfortunately as long as people continue to eat up the slop they're producing, they will continue doing it.
Blizzard doesn't really get any of my money anymore. I don't care about battlepass or shop. The only thing I do is play ranked and sometimes play qp with friends. That it's. Only when a hero is in the battlepass do I shell out money for it.
Overall, the thing that pisses me off the most is the amount of damage and healing in this game
so true, the less you play, the better experience you have with ow2. Content does feel spread thin and they are just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks for players.
I've been watching you for a few years, and I just want to say that I appreciate how honest and critical you've been towards this game.
Overwatch quickly became my favorite FPS in 2016 and is one of the few games that I always return to, but the betrayal and breaches of trust shown by Blizzard have left such a sour taste in everybody's mouths. I can't even admit to playing this game without raising eyebrows, and even my friends who play OW2 are constantly complaining about the state it's in.
Thank you for being true to yourself, and helping give a voice to the longtime players & the disappointed.
Random afterthought btw- I tapped the Spacebar at launch and accidentally purchased a souvenir for 500 credits. I was denied a refund upon request.
@@luria2498BRUH
I've been waiting for the PvE stuff to be announced to start caring about Ow again but after they announced they stopped development on it years ago and waited to tell everyone I'm absolutely never playing this game again.
It's just sad how ow has become. The original team had built such a great cast of characters and original game design. I used to play for hours with my friends. Granted now woth work and life there isn't really much time. But I agree how the game now disincentives you to play more. After getting my 3 dailies, I'm just done. There's no difference between comp and quick play, it's the same minus the backfill.
As for me I've lost all hope for this game, I haven't played in around 4 months, I played ow as my main game for 6 years and enjoyed every second of it, until season 3.
I will be coming back for the long promised pve (which I have 0 expectations for due to blizzard shattering it), after that I will be taking my leave from one of my favourite games I've played 😢
Goodbye OW, and fxck you Activision Blizzard