ALSO sorry if like my mic picked up on some gross mouth sounds (idk how else to describe it) and if it was unevenly sound balanced I tried ;-; But I hope you all enjoy nonetheless and lmk your own throughts/experiences towards overwatch! I will probably still make some ow content from whatever ANCIENT left over clips I have!
So many of my friends have quit the game just has so many balance problems and they really need to bring back 6v6. I resorted to playing junkrat just for fun now.
@@BTRshow Its not realy a war the reality is 5v5 isnt working and the devs cant fix it and never will but becouse its Blizzard/Team4 they refuse to every admit if anything they do didnt woke so we keep just sitting in that strang limbo were everybody knows the only realy option is 6v6 but also we know its not gone happen
@xythiera7255 there is a war, between pro 5v5 and pro 6v6 people. The amount of popular videos of sides going after eachother is pretty high. I agree with you, 5v5 isn't working. Like you said tho, Team 4 will never fix it or really properly balance it. Overwatch 2 will never be in a good state with team 4. That's something we all just have to accept.
I never got the chance to play overwatch 1, I was so excited to finally get to play 2. I think Overwatch 2 is one of the worst multiplayer games i've ever played.
OW1 was such a unique experience, you could play one character in OW1 for years and never get bored cause there were so many variables and situations to get into . Even with characters that have a simple kit, it allowed people who didn’t even have an fps background to express their skill in more ways than just raw aiming . OW2 killed this concept in attempt to make the game easy for everyone .
I think the mainstream reason people don't like OW2 is the fact that 6v6 is gone. Because once you lose your one tank, you WILL be at a serious disadvantage and it's just not fun at all.
@@feenixsarchive and tanks SUCK TO PLAY (im a tank player).. Tank is like the quarerback but tanks cant finish it, they are in the role to pop off, but are useless lol hope its understandable xd
I remember before they nerfed the supports and healing the game would basically be a skylander boss. You had to kill both the supports and then work around the dps to get to the tank and as soon as he’s dead you’ve just won
when they removed one tank from the pool it was fun playing as dps but as a flex player, playing as tank now is miserable........ This has been an ongoing issue and blizzard is SOMEWHAT taking into account of it now.
I feel ya on the love and loss of OW1. OW2 felt...off for some reason. It wasn't until recently I put the pieces together. Without that 2nd tank, every roll has to be a "shooter" more. I was a support main and it was nice being able to contribute to the match without having to aim well like you said. You can still get that feeling a little with Mercy in OW2, but everything else feels more FPS driven which I'm terrible at. OW1 was nice because you could still contribute to your team without being a McShooty master.
YES YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! I also noticed the lack of a second tank made the game very much dps focused, hence why supports became so strong and able to get more picks I think.
OOH another point i was thinking (as a tank player) is that they have to be way more overtuned even though their design hasn’t changed making tanking always miserable
The constant checking stats is so relatable, I used to be so confident on playing my favourite hero ball but now with one tank it’s hard to enjoy with all the high demands of what people expect from your one tank player. Also when I heard that PvE was being cancelled after waiting all that time in Overwatch 1, it was so painful because I was so invested in the lore that made me want to learn more about the story. Tysm for sharing your opinion
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) Ugh, when they completely cancelled PvE, I felt super bad for anyone who was even remotely interested in the lore and anyone who bought the missions from a while ago. It's such a shame they literally lied to us.
I relate so strongly to your experience. The exception being that I only started with Overwatch 2. I genuinely don't know how the developers think that this game is even remotely okay. I have nearly 1,000 hours in Overwatch 2 and a good chunk of that is me just gritting my teeth and hoping that it gets better. The game I loved died a few seasons into It's lifetime, and even then it is clearly worse than the original. Even I can see that. Anyways, my life has dramatically improved since I stopped playing. I still think about the game nearly every day, and I'm genuinely sad that I can't play anymore. But Overwatch 2 is literally unhealthy for itself and it's players.
No thisssssss. I think I'm roughly closer to 2k hours total from ow1 and 2??? I can't remember, but man it's definitely been going downhill ever since ow2's release and I wish it didn't go in that direction :(( I totally felt you on trying to cling on to some hope for the game lol, I stayed a lot longer than I thought I would've, and quitting was kind of difficult. I'm glad you took the step away from the game and I hope you find another game that's more rewarding and healthier in a sense :D
I miss borders, I miss end cards, I miss seeing my rank, I miss 6v6, I miss telling the homies I only got 2 more arcade wins for a lootbox. The very same homies I played with for 5 years in OW1 quit 1 by 1 in OW2. I hate the fact they removed borders, end cards, rank icon, 1 tank and the FOMO shop on rotation to get a skin with real life currency. We still don't even have weapon inspects when they showed it off all the way back in OW2 trailers. They killed the promised PVE which was the biggest selling point for OW2. Then you got thanos walking around as the solo tank snapping his fingers, and the worst part is they either do not die or die instantly, miserable. OW2 is a failure.
@@feenixsarchive Well as long as the community can come together and outright stop purchasing the dumb overpriced bullshit from the shop, then maybe we will be able to get it available to every hero. But I doubt that will ever happen. This community has too much apathy (like myself) or a few too many stupid whales that don't care about the state of the game and will buy everything in the shop and will ruin this game's future in the long run. It took us what like 9 seasons to finally release premium currency in the battle pass... but not enough for the next one. And yet no one will call it out. Sorry for the little rant. I just wish I could have my old overwatch that I spent 3500 hours on.
@@acorn1265 Why tf are they tied to mythic weapons? The trailer literally showed it on default skins implying you could use it for any skin. The pure greed is astounding.
@@feenixsarchive But this wasn't natural. This was uniquelely awful. The transition to OW2 sure redefined the sequel into being Overwatch 0.75. More cut content than we got. But you're right about it happening naturally 100%
@@feenixsarchive and the format change has ruined 1/3 of the game for many of us. I miss dual tanking. I think the DPS passive should be changed to more damage to shields and we should go back to 6v6
Papa Jeff leaving Blizzard was a very-very bad sign for overwatch's soul, making bad solo tank experience in 5v5 format and cancelling PvE entirely proves it.
Honestly I think the reason we feel this way is not having 6v6. You just have to counterpick everything or you can’t play, so you end up playing characters you don’t want to, leading to not having fun.
Are you bronze rank or something? This is counter picks the game. And if you don't counter pick your team will yell at you all game because its so vital. @geert574
my brother introduced me to the overwatch beta back when i was only 8 years old. i practically grew up playing overwatch and it sucks so much seeing a game you loved so dearly fall so far from what it once was.
I remember how fun the game used to feel like when I first started playing it, grouping up with my friends and pulling all nighters, now I see myself hoping for that glimpse of the past and logging on every day just praying that maybe, just maybe, that fun that I used to have would return somehow. But deep down I know that is over, I'm using nostalgia to cope with the hate and disgust that I feel every time that I open this game.
Remembering Overwatch 1 feels like I’m remembering a close friend that I’ll never see again. I made so many incredible memories and it was genuinely the most fun game I have ever played. Of course, it had a it’s fair share of issues, but the community and fluid nature of the game encouraged teamwork and communication in a way I had never experienced before and have failed to find since. Elements of this still exist in Overwatch 2, but it just feels like a neutered version of the game I fell in love with. In retrospect, I don’t think the people making decisions about the game really ever understood what made it so great. It really bums me out that the game I fell in love with only exists alongside the memories I made in it - in the past and in my memory.
Thissssss hit home. Nothing else was quite like ow1, and it's a shame it's all a part of our memories now. I cope now that the dev team will try to restore it to its former glory but I highly doubt it.
I hate OW but my timeline of getting there happened so much faster. I started playing OW2 around April 2023 after Lifeweaver was released. I had always been interested in the game back during its release but I heard how toxic it was and was scared to try but with OW2 being free to play and PVE being in the works I was excited to try. And then not only did I find out that PVE wasn't happening but Lifeweaver was considered a throw pick for awhile and even today isn't considered that great competitively and people still constantly make videos about how bad he is. He's the hero I joined the game to play because I liked his kit so much. I have hundreds of hours on him, more than any other character and yet just bc of how he's valued and his kit I can't even feel comfortable playing competitive without being told Im throwing. As such I ended up playing characters I was unfamiliar with in the beginning of my competitive journey and as a result I fell in rank really hard. I slowly climbed back up but I was so discouraged I just gave up comp immediately. What's the point of playing something if I cant even play the characters I like? I have long since muted all chats aside from group & whispers and I exclusively play QP now. But when a game feels like this what's the point of playing it? I've resolved to play through the Battle Pass on each new season but other than that I don't play. I've gone back to my WoW roots and tbh it's so liberating. Dying in WoW for the first few times actually gave me anxiety and I realized it was bc of OW. Mount farming and daily quests are so much more relaxing lol
Omg I've seen some amazing lifeweavers in my time playing, but they def aren't very common bc he just gets outclassed by all the other supports. I'm sorry you felt discouraged from playing someone you really enjoyed in a competitive setting
Ngl u soft fr if u can't handle a lil trash talk but ye after ow1 they started lowering the skill cealing on all characters I play genji when ow1 launched and they removed bufferdashing they added the ability to cancel deflect when u can already do that by wall climbing they removed infinite wall climb and ledge super dash they do all this just to make the character ez to play making it more accessible
Bruh the auto moderation are so bad that if you speak anything AND someone doesnt like you You could get muted or banned LW seems like a weak pick BUT if you got crazy reinhardt and managed to save his ass everytime You get my honor my friend. Not even mercy could save reinhardt
Jeff was the reason behind 5v5 just fyi. He first proposed the 1-3-2 format that everyone hated and also was behind the character design for Orisa and the other one dimensional characters. Jeff seems like a nice guy for sure but I don’t think he knew how to solve the puzzle of the game they created.
Do you mean when Microsoft bought them? Activion merged with Blizzard in 2008 so 8 years before Overwatch. If you mean the microsoft merge that also makes no sense as Overwatch 2 was very far in development by the Microsoft got involved. @huckmart2017
hey i hope you're well. i must say,this is a very good video. overwach for me is love and hate. im currently trapped in high silver/low gold because whenever i win a game i end up either getting worse teamates or i get rolled by the other team. ive put hundreds of hours into the game and ive gotten better,but the matchmaking system for lower ranks just doesnt help in any way. i look forward to seeing more of your videos.
Thank you for your comment, it means a lot ^^ Man, even in higher ranks I'm ngl the matchmaking is just as bad. There's always bound to be people on your team who just can't beat the enemy team so it's mainly a team diff all around. It definitely felt like to me, no matter if I'm getting better, if their team is just better than there's only so much you can do tbh.
OW used to be so good. I dont hate Overwatch 2, I just hate playing it if that makes sense. I had to uninstall it or get stuck in the cycle because its addicting but miserable to play.
And 5v5ers will say that 6v6 wasn't good and all of us have nostalgia and rose tinted glasses for ow1, the problem isn't nostalgia, the problem is the format that forces you to counterswap constantly, as Flats said, team 4 originally mentioned that they wanted to keep the option to main a character (because they knew there were a lot of otp's), then, when they weren't able to maintain that condition, they changed the argument that it was intended for players to switch characters. Team 4 can't accept their errors, they will do whatever they could to simply not accept that they messed up, an example of this is when they ignored the community asking for 6v6 (subject that luckily seems that they are going to talk about sooner or later). In conclussion, what made overwatch feel so unique was the strong and weak points of every character that in a symmetric format (6v6) each one could cover the weakness of the other, by removing a tank, now the game forces you to focus the weakness of the remaining one since they buffed them so hard that there's no other option, then with the new format a lot of other issues have occurred also, and the solution for blizz was to buff other roles in an infinite cycle of stubbornness against accepting that they did something wrong in the first place. New players might like the game at it's current state (since the only thing you need to do is to know each character's counter and the skill level has dropped a lot (bigger hitboxes and hitscans having more angles caused by the missing tank)), but for ow1 veterans the game feels boring. At this point if there was an option to play 6v6 even with double shields and longer queues, I'd gladly take that 100 times than playing a single match of counterwatch.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) I completely stand by everything you said. Team 4 being stubborn and not fixing their errors, counterwatch being unfun, the lowering of skill on basically every character, big sigh all around tbh
I hate hate hate how much I can relate to this, Overwatch is so close and dear to me...yet has been going trough the same motions as you. Thank you for being vocal about such a human thing, I shed a few tears bahaha
Girl i feel you… you worded it extremely well… and you sharing your relationship with the game, being focused on numbers and all, was very insightful for me. A kind and warm thank you from this stranger to another ♥️ Thank you for sharing this🌺
I really felt you there. It's why it was my main game for so long. But I tried apex and valorant which are kinda similar to ow but not really. I'd suggest those ^^
I can relate to this video so much. It actually touched my heartstrings, because I like you find it so hard to let go. I've "quit" Overwatch several times through the years even with OW1 but something always brought me back. It's this thought that one day I might feel that excitement like I used to back in 2016 and fomo with the skins. A part of me is still holding out that 6v6 will return and that I'll be happy I invested my time and money if or when Overwatch returns to those glory days. I wanna play Mercy and Kiriko too, but feel like I'm at a disadvantage so often when I meet a Bap, Lucio or Ana. You know the game is in a bad place when you are "forced" to play heroes you don't want/like just to keep up with the rest of the players. As a support main what I always loved was feeling like I could lift my teammates, enable them to pop off. It just feels great when you get that perfect rez or ultimate and turn the tides of the team fight. I've always gravitated towards supports in games, and I think it's for this reason. The fact that you know they really appreciate having you in their team, that you got their back. When they fall, you are there to lift them back up. Also thank you for the Chrono Cross music
Omg, I relate to you so much. There was a time, especially when I was taking longer breaks from ow (aka a couple days), what always brought me back was exactly the same reason as you! I was playing to find that same nostalgic experience back in ow1. BUT YES enabling your team and feeling like you had impact >>>>>> main reason why I play support. But yeah, getting "forced" to play the "meta" heroes was just :/ Awww 🥹 ofc! Chrono Cross music just hits different 😌
In the exact same boat, and while it makes me sad to see so many folks losing a game they love like I did, this sudden outpouring of smaller creators--regular people like me--has given me a sense of catharsis and reassurance that no it's not just me and that the game that I used to love did in fact change
As a Reinhardt main. I sympathize. I stopped playing a while back and felt exactly the same way. I was a main tank in OW1 and took pride in it, I loved the intense teamplay... Now the identity I enjoy roleplaying in OW has been gutted of its soul.
Such a compelling journey. This was beautiful and I support that break from the game. I love overwatch so much and I would step back if I felt the way you did about it. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It was really interesting.
I felt every word you said. OW had such a special place in a my heart and I would have so much fun. I just couldn’t, I tried but OW2 didn’t feel the same, I played it till January and then finally I decided to stop playing. I just hope they bring back OW or at least just bring 6v6.
the way i’ve seen like 5 different people in the comments saying their journey started & ended w the release of ow2 💀 that’s….not a good thing lmfao rip
oh my god that kings row game brought me back… i miss it so much. it’s so miserable ive had to quit aswell. now i love playing elden ring with a clear conscience - it’s fun but especially with coop
you thought you were addicted to Overwatch?? hahaha, just wait until ER clicks for you! now *thats* a game worth playing!! gotta say tho, i felt that sentiment of yours where you said you lost all passion to play, let alone to improve. the stress of rank, the stats, dealing with toxicity and just general bullshit when life already has enough of that? yeah... it wasn’t fun, wasn’t worth it. it’s hard to find motivation when the game is unfun, unbalanced, counter-dependant, boring and unrewarding. none of my OG friends play anymore, and just the way it plays feels like an uncanny ghost of itself designed to waste my time and money (WHICH IT DID! we all paid for OW1 and they just straight up deleted our game like WTAF???) …when i realised it would never be the same again, i tried to focus on having fun - until THAT feeling went away aswell, and i just could not find a genuine reason to play it at all after that. none. nothing. that shit is straight up mentally damaging now i swear lol if you want to find passion for a game again, i promise you Elden Ring and other soulslikes are the experience you’re looking for. they are literal works of art. beautiful craftsmanship, a developer with a passion and an original team with a vision?!? never has a game made me feel like that. i really could go on forever but i shouldnt spoil. you’ll know what i mean when it hits you ;D anyway, thanks for reading my wall. loved the vid, and i wish you the best post OW-addiction! just remember- dont give up, skeleton! 💚💚💚
hehe ER is def my first souls game and I'm going in blind but I'll persevere! It looks amazing already and I can't wait to go deeper into it to see the bliss that is elden ring. I'm glad you were able to relate a lot to my concerns playing as well, it's honestly really nice T^T It does sucks when a game becomes unfun and not worth to play anymore. I appreciate your comment sm! :D
I came to terms with the fact that I will never be a high elo player. I don't know why, there is just something about this game that doesn't click with me. I also refuse to play every day, so that might be why. If being GM means wasting my life away, then I'm okay being gold forever and enjoying myself.
12:10 this is so so agreable, i really miss overwatch 1, sure lots of cc, shield etc but there was so many thing to learn, and overwatch was my comfort game and same goes to mercy, her movement overall was so smooth, i wished i had more time and chance to learn it better back then, and big part also the fact that every celebration there is skins you can get for free essentially if you have enough coin, now you have to play, it sucks. everything pretty locked behind walls, "new game" but they started bringing back cass flashbang and trying to make rein shield more tankier, like you might as well open back overwatch 1, all they do is lie and lie to make you come back. stressing over stats especially with characters like ana and kiriko is so relatable, i was initially gonna reach gold.. was close in overwatch 1 but didnt happen, i dont know im kinda yapping sorry, just feel unnecessary to hype ow2 anymore, with everything they didnt do.. plus in ow1 you can play qp and actually have fun, where if you see now, its just too many sweat, toxicity at its max, you cant even have place to practice hero you want without getting dump with bucket of crap.. thank you for sharing your opinion and experience feenix, it made me happy to know you not forcing yourself to play this game anymore and do what you actually want
YES overwatch 1, even if I reached the highest rank, I still felt like I had room to improve and that was the best part. I wanted to get better and it seemed like I could continuously grow :D unlike ow2 it just felt like I wasn't able to grow "better" without playing the "meta" heroes. OMG BRING BACK LOOTBOXES LIKE PLEASE. The game was "pay to win" at some point when you had to buy the bp to unlock the new broken hero that recently released too it was ugh. They messed up balancing and going back to ow1 is their only solution 💀 ow2 is just simply not as fun. Don't apologize for yapping, Im doing a lot of that already LMAOO I appreciate you listening to me and sharing your experience as well
I fully agree with you. I lost my passion for this game completely. I was an off-tank player in ow1 (only main tank I really played was rein) and I loved how tanks synergized with each other. Being the only tank has been absolutely miserable. I will not return unless 6v6 comes back and if doesn't... oh well 🤷♂️
this videos sums up 50% of my experience with overwatch. sometimes its like this, and then other times im actually enjoying myself. I have a love hate relationship with this game
I was basically a Sym 2.0 one trick for this game, nothing was ever as good as she was. Popping a personal shield in front of a High Noon and throwing some turrents down at his feet while the animation finishes, surviving because the shield takes the hit, and then winning out over a duel someone used their literal ultimate on with just your basic kit? You can't make drugs that hit better than that. I miss the character gameplay I fell in love with, but the newer iterations of Sym are so different it's night and day. Nothing is the same. I never even bothered trying OW2 because there just wasn't any point.
My hope for 6v6 is the only reason i still play this game but i made the decision recently to just play a lot less. before it was everyday now its 3 times a week maybe
I think the best way I can put it is that overwatch 2 just feels directionless and hollow with random change for the sake of change. Directionless in the sense of pointless character redesigns, time of day changes that ruin art direction, how uncohesive hero select animations seem now, the new ranked system, 5v5 and game direction as a whole. Hollow in how the monitization changes removed basically all forms of progression, the loss of PVE and any progression of lore, skins for the sake of a battle pass theme instead of things that fit the character. I know most of these things are "trivial" but the game has slowly ship of Theseus's itself into a compelelty different experience I want no part in. I guess that's what happens when most of the old dev team leaves blizzard. Comparing it to a similar shooter I love and still do Splatoon and how that series progressed foreward while maintaining the soul of the series makes me sad to see the state of OW.
I absolutely agree with how directionless and pointless ow2 became. Some kit reworks seemed a little like they did it for the sake of "change" rather than what was needed. Progression became bleh, and lots of other things.
Great video! I primarily listen to my videos at work via Bluetooth earbuds for content while I work away and I came back to say that I appreciate how consumable your content is via audio only. Interesting video! I’d love to see more video essay/rant/story videos like this, your voice suits it 😊👍
I can do absolutely relate, to just about everything. I played tank since s9 ow1, I wanted to get better, see improvement, and see numbers go up. I remember starting as a silver player and just wanting to get to plat, my friends and I would grind for many sleepless nights to make it happen. When I hit low masters at the end of overwatches life cycle, I felt genuinely good about my progress, but then I learned of my tank buddies never being able to play with me again. The game immediately felt less fun because I essentially lost a friend with one change to the game. And it’s not like we can just play ow1. I remember starting groups to play in as many games with as many people with mics as I could, there are no more players with mics. No more community, no more fire for getting better among the broader majority of players. I used to pick this game up here and there, but I can’t remember the last time I played anymore. I miss my favorite game
I absolutely felt you there. The passion of grinding to get better disappeared. It felt like the community no longer had the passion either as no one wanted to use their mics. It just felt dry. Soulless. I miss my favorite game too :(
I can genuinely agree with this honestly. I am currently in my quitting era and I've been on this game since day 1 of its release and it doesn't feel the same anymore. For me, 5v5 and 6v6, stats or none of the main game stuff mattered. What really took my toll was the amount of times I had to hear the constant FOMO riding of "This game is back again" and "We're so back" stuff. We lost PvE (sure. we cant have nice things) The Patch Notes weren't lining up (Some characters kept getting a weird tun up or toned down when not needed) Characters needed a constant fix or change in kit to be well suited for the 5v5 (which could have been done whilst the game was in development) Casual vs Competitive players would never meet eye to eye and it was always such a toxic battlefield that neither can agree on Its somewhat upsetting when people can't just play to have fun anymore and I feel like this comes in the form of free to play accessibility and the lack of open play between all platforms (switch being a barren wasteland, Xbox actually being somewhat decent to play and Playstation community is toxic as all hell and im from PS). Its amazing that its accessible by default but now EVERYONE just magically gains a "I know everything because I won a single game" just urks me. If I paid some good cash for the game, I wouldn't have to worry about a Reinhardts hammer being $53 CAD. Its FP2 so the additional Microtransactions can happen and its just so rough. At the end of the day, everyone experience is their own. Mine is slowly diluting to where I am better off playing a different game than Overwatch 2
I started playing OW in late 2016 and all throughout 2017, 2018 and half of 2019 I played it religiously. I was utterly in love with this game and the characters. I mained tracer, widow, zen and dva. I quit in 2019 because I just wasn't allowed to play the game by the devs OR the people I matched with. I stopped playing tracer (even before dmg stats were visible to everyone LOL) people still cried about me not doing anything for the team even though I was a nightmare for healers in the backline. I also stopped playing widow because over time the double shield meta became more and more widespread and it got to a point where it seemed like even the most casual team in quickplay full of average joes was playing double shield and for a player like me who spent hundreds of hours practicing my aim, for some casual to just hold right click and immediately make all those hours irrelevant was infuriating. Sure, I could still get some highlights here and there and win a few rounds for my team, but it wasn't nearly as consistent as before at all. Playing dva I was always the off tank and unless I was eating ults, I was once again told to switch. I'm 100000% sure these were all idiots that were echoing whatever their favorite youtuber or pro player said about dva. I was constantly putting so much pressure as dva and saving my teammates with def matrix but in the end I always felt unappreciated. It's funny that most of my encouragement from the game was actually negative and toxic in nature because it wasn't my teammates who told me I was playing good, it was the enemy team raging and seething over me. When I was doing good, my team almost never acknowledged it and just focused on the one genji that popped off twice during the match, or the pocket heals. My will to play continued to dwindle over time even though my love for the game was still there. (muting players worked wonders at first for my mental heatlh, but then the man children on my team would start throwing because of it) Over time me and the friend I used to play with were constantly uttering the words "let's play quickplay to get to play whoever we want" and when I noticed this is when I knew things had been wrong for a long while. Shortly after that, after a couple of "relapses" I quit and started playing monster hunter (which became my new passion) and I suddenly felt alive again. Because of this I knew I was never going back to overwatch. When OW2 released I decided to give it a try. I thought "hey, maybe I can get to play widow now that there's only 1 tank" but oh man the game felt so off. I stuck with it for a week but I really wasn't enjoying my time with it despite getting to play widow for the first time in years. Since it's release... well... YOU know the rest of the story. Having the game I loved constantly push me away little by little by the devs themselves and the community was sad, and to come back for a week after OW2 only to see it be a shell of it's former self was even more sad. I'll always miss 2016 - 2018 overwatch :(
Ugh I've seen those experiences (from former teammates or my friends) of being told to switch off even though they're leaving an impact on the enemy team and making them upset, but the team just puts the blame on them anyways. It's definitely been tough with the game sucking out people's enjoyment of playing and on top of the toxic community, but taking a step away from it does wonders fs :) I'm glad you found a new passion for monster hunter!
I miss the attention to skins, the events, events lasting a month instead of a week or day, the animations, heroes coming out more slowly, torb and sym not being reworked every 2 years or so, the tons of alterations on supports role. Like there was a consistency to the game and back with Jeff they cared about having a good fun experience. I couldn't care about some mythic skin with 5 ugly skins for 40 bucks and other 20 dollar skins every single week! 2017-2018 overwatch was amazing...everyone I know started quitting then.
The reasons are simple. The game has changed and we grew older. Blizzard has done an incredibly poor job at managing this game and the love the devs used to have died quite a bit, similarly to the love players have for the game in turn
I understand your perspective and I think it’s a natural response to playing the same game for so long. I haven’t quit the game because I still enjoy learning heroes I haven’t played before but I think one of the big issues that’s really unsolvable about this game is that it’s sweaty no matter what game mode you’re in. Whether you’re playing unranked or competitive it all feels the same and whenever you’re doing something difficult/competitive nearly 100% of the time it’s bound to feel like a chore. The only thing that really fixes it is to (1) stop caring about rank/stats or (2) just take a break from the game or have a backup game that’s relaxing to you
Thank you for your thoughts :D I absolutely agree that the game is sweaty no matter the gamemode, I started noticing it when playing qp with my friends. I'm glad you're still enjoying and learning the game tho :) I definitely think I tried both of the "fixes" you provided, but it only really solidified me to just quit unfortunately :/
The number thing is so true. . I focused on my stats so much even tho i was fine. I slowly realized they truly didnt matter bc i could have all the kill, the best healing and still lose. I start to question my skill, my enjoyment and everything i tried working towards. The game made me feel hopeless and i start to notice my attitude changed aswell. From easy-goung, carefree and only wanting to have a good time to overly competitive, toxic and harsh on myself. Its so weird how i grew up on this game and how it affected me.
I dunno, I just really miss how scrappy old Overwatch was compared to this. Where it felt like you actually entered a back and forth instead of a definite win or loss. Old Overwatch characters were designed around having a high risk and high reward. Genji, Reaper, Winston, Tracer, you just commit to what you're doing by entering the fray and doing the best you can to sync up what enemies you fight. But OW2 is catering to this very boring playstyle where characters get a very inordinate amount of leverage for the amount of engagement they need. Widow can one shot you from whole maps away. All ana has to do is sit in her backline and no one can touch her. They get rewarded for minimal interaction. It's unfun to play WITH too. Weaver waits around and opens himself up to flank. Ashe will tunnel vision opening themselves up to flank. I just want to engage. And if I decide to play the game, I'm at a net disadvantage cause the enemy has less to target.
I know the feeling. Overwatch was the first FPS that have a strong identity, so many heroes to choose, all very different between them, and some have a strong sinergy between them like rein/zarya, dva/winston, tracer/genji or lucio/ana. I remember rhe first time I play Ana, it feel so good, the way she plays with her pros and cons, how fun she was too play, but the particular thing was the interactions with other characters and that make her unique for me. Of course the gameplay was awesome, for the sinergy. But when 5v5 came, ana wasnt the same. The game lost his identity, and every new character that was release was more broken than before. I also play zen, bap, Moira, lucio and some brig. But I love the game cause of Ana, and there comes Kiriko and Illari. Was the point of a good sleep or nade, when with a simple CD all is cancelled, or having a turret that heals your team for you while you can be just shooting. I miss 6v6, and I miss the old Overwatch. But its like you said "maybe its time to move on" P.D: I love the music of final fantasy for the video
As a fellow GM/T500 player (though I played tank), same thing happened to me - took a break and realized I didn't even really like the game anymore and that break just got longer and longer until I barely cared. When I came back, I had no motivation to play or climb. It feels like a chore I'm forced to do. I don't know if it's the inferior ranked system, terrible reward incentives for play time or the gameplay loop changing, it's probably a combination of everything. I just stopped caring. Don't know how Blizzard managed to make me stop caring about a game I would play 8+ hours a day, but congrats, they managed to do it.
Your explanation was precise and clear thank you sm hun u did ur best for ur friends and ur teammates but maybe it’s ok to just move on honestly life is about change…even with pink mercy the underlying problems are still there u still won’t be happy after awhile.
I feel you, got the game for my ps4 first and loved it. I even bought it again to play on pc even tho i couldnt run it at the time. Now ow2 just doesnt feel the same 😭 i miss those ow1 days... I absolutely hate how the game was treated
Same same. I tried my best to like the new OW 2, but slowly my complaints from day 1 became a reality for everyone, even the biggest defenders of OW 2. What a shame the game went down like this...
Great thing about gaming is that there is so much to play now that leaving one game doesn't have to be so bittersweet My friend group and I used to be smash sweats but almost all of us got sick and tired of Smash and we moved on to FPS shooters and other fighting games In short, uhhhh, variety is the spice of life and spicing up your gaming sessions with new games definitely keeps gaming as it should be, a fun hobby
I play ow time to time but I started playing ow 2 I was addicted. I was determined to get better at mercy and climb ranks as her but then I realized I didn’t have the skill enough to branch out to better supports and playing other roles felt stressful because of the stat board that everyone could see if I was doing bad or good. The only times I enjoyed playing was with my friends since we all could laugh and have fun but by myself I just preferred to play other games. Hopefully the game gets better soon especially with solo queuing and being able to play as characters you’d want to play as
I played overwatch 1 a whole lot, i got more then 1500 hours into Ana in overwatch 1. But when i played the open beta of ow 2, i already missed the second tank and this was before the release of ow 2. Im not a GM ranked player like you are, but my experience as support and specially as Ana, is that people bully you as Ana player in Ow 2. And their is a reason why i love Ana, because when she got released, i was a Mercy Main and i remember joining the map Dorado and Mercy was taken and people truly encouraged me to play Ana, while i had no experience with her at all. Thats when i became an Ana main becaue of the Community this game use to have, but today, it somewhat feels like a toxic wasteland were everyone blames eachother and never truly work together as a team, specially in a rank like gold. People run off more then ever, they dont stay as team let alone play as team and i feel like with ow 2 they truly took down teamplay with it. Because, it feels like people just wanna deal damage and dont really want to play as a team and what i noticed the most, is the fact that its so rare these days to truly have an Equal Match up in Competitive Play. Its mostly stomp or be stomped. Top that off with the fact, that i think 5v5 is the main reason why the game feels unbalanced, its not the Heroes at all. Cause maps are designed with 6v6 in mind and in 5v5, that sure might create more room for dps heroes, but it also creates an unbalanced factor on those maps. Sadly, they currently keep buffing and nerfing heroes and the balance is still no where to be found, mainly due to the fact that 5v5 is whole soul reason why its unbalanced. I think with the Tank Changes they did in Ow 2, would have been Amazing in a 6v6 format, i truly believe in that. Great video and i feel your pain in this one, cause 5v5, took down the soul that Overwatch 1 had with Overwatch 2 🥲
At this point I am starting to regret having received Overwatch 1 as a gift and addicted to it in late 2018... (2.5k hrs time) and had too much hope in OW2... I am going to cry
No I totally get that :(( I spent so much time and energy into this game when I was addicted, but sometimes we just have to move on and reminisce about the good ol days 😔
I recognize so many of my feelings in yours. I used to love Overwatch. It was special. Overwatch 2 basically ripped out a lot of what made the original special and well, you said it perfectly; it’s just not the same anymore. There’s a lot of conversations about a potential 6v6 return and I do think that’s a big step in the right direction. OW2 was a mistake in pretty much every sense and that’s what both angers and saddens me so very much. More than I can put into words. I’ve felt so robbed for years.
I actually skipped a beat when I saw the Tyrodin7676 tag on the rein 😅 And from my perspective like everything in life ow is another stage of life, I share a lot of your feelings about being excited to play ow when I was in highschool, going at it in ranks and achieve goals, being able to enjoy time with friends in tournaments and then casual qp matches (I miss those times and I regret not being able to create a strong bond with them when I had the opportunity) and a lot of other thoughts you explained in this video, nowadays im kinda interested about the 6v6 and 5v5 debate and how it will affect the gameplay for the tank role since I was a main tank player back in the day.
Hehe was it you? :o but yes, even tho I personally lost all hope for the game and don't plan to play it again, I do wonder how the recently announced 6v6 testing will go!
@@feenixsarchive I dont think it was me, If im not mistaken that is a xbox footage right? Therefore it was definetly not me in that clip specially because my tag in ow is just Tyrodin. Anyway how is it going? I also have some experience quitting games I really liked and for me it is something else rather than just "I just dont have the passion", it is about "I dont want to support this developer" kinda thing too, appreciating my time and not wasting money and time on a game that is not addresing the core issues and them being just greedy and abusive.
i have the same feelings as u when i quit something that i could rationalize as why i dont like ow anymore was 1. 5v5 feels like team deathmatch, i didnt like that mode in ow1 and only played qp and ranked. I liked the teamwork and coordination part of the game and 5v5 has taken that away little by little 2. role passives, basically taking player agency away and giving it to the game. This makes it quite frustrating when it comes to decision making, feels like there are 10 wrong decisions and 1 right one. It's ultimately about who you play not how you play. This format and passives is slowly killing hero identities.. That's mostly why it's boring to me now.. hopefully one day we will get 6v6 back with no passives as a game mode in the future
Comparing 5v5 to a team deathmatch is actually so accurate omg. It feels more catered to individual performance rather than team play, which was the main reason ow was so fun. Thank you for your comment :D
Your story really mirrors mine except I went from gold to masters instead of plat to gm. Really the soul just feels so sucked out of the game now... i miss ow1 so much...
I can really relate to the idea of the characters you play holding you back in certain situations but not wanting to play the stronger characters because you simply don't find them fun. The way you described it as a drag is exactly how I feel about that dynamic with OW2. A game is meant to be fun and when part of the games premise is pick whoever character you want to play out of this large roster, and then you do that only for the game scenario to basically say "well actually you can't choose that character this match if you want to be able to play the game," it just feels awful.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) The whole thing where you are inclined to play a certain pool of characters in order to be "able to play" and also win (counter swapping for instance) just takes away how vast the hero roster actually is. It definitely feels limiting at points when it feels like there's one "right" character to play in a certain scenario.
I really do miss the days of overwatch 1. I very recently stopped playing overwatch 2 as it's just not the game I felt in love, I tried to love it but blizzard is just ruining and killing this game and it really hurts to see my once loved game get ruined...
I 100% relate to your journey, especially during covid albeit as a dps player instead. I did really enjoy flexing to Ana on support as to me she is such a cool concept for a "healer" in a shooter. It felt like even if didn't dps or hit crazy sleeps (I did, my Ana was S tier fr), you could still get value.. Hitting a big nade was so much harder and 10x more rewarding than in OW2 where Kiriko just comes in from Narnia and pressing E on the ground... It's such a snooze fest of what feels like you have to work MUCH less for value in the grand scheme, which just creates this deathmatchy feel to every single game mode. Mind you I enjoy deathmatch in the arcade section, but the complexity of tank synergies and support synergies and making sure to cover bases with a dps line up in case of flyer heroes etc. was so much more diverse and complex. Shame that we lost a great thing, that although not as main stream as some fps titles out there (that's okay, Overwatch can be niché), it had a devout fanbase, that it just feels like they took a big fat dookie on with OW2 to try to rake in as many new players as possible to replace their loyal fanbase for years..
The last point of trying to bring in many new players and practically neglecting the original fanbase is SO REAL. I remember them specifically changing mercy a ton so she's easier to pick up for new players (even tho she was already easy to pick up in general). Yes, I agree the new synergies of team play in ow2 kinda feels like a deathmatch and feels like you need to work much harder to get value OR just abuse a character which makes the game SUPER easy, which sucks.
Started playing OW1 as well. Like when it was in closed beta. But i've never been competitive and never cared about numbers. I just play unranked a few times per day. Try to get my challenges done. And it's fine, though it feels pretty harsh sometimes. I think it's worst when you go against premade teams, since I play solo.
even watching your old OW1 gameplay makes me feel like the vibe is completely different, like the way the game looks more unique and how much more relaxed it was.
As someone that has played ow since the beginning climbing my way to mid gm having fun for many years I knew that ow was gonna go downhill the moment they announced ow2, the game had its issues before this, but atleast i always had fun. Same as you, i realise anytime i play ow2 I am just coping, the game is gone, so is the passion. I only play dm nowdays, but I will probably quit that now too.
It's always so nice seeing people resonate with how my passion faded away from the game, especially once it switched it ow2. Sigh, it's really such a shame how much they messed it up
watching this video after playing the game since launch makes me sad how much from grace this game fell off for a lot of people. not only that but i remember buying this game with my own allowance and was so excited and to see it just be this pile of dumpster doodoo makes me sad. i now switched to tf2 and never looked back ever since the bot crisis got fixed. I hope overwatch manages to fix itself but with these current changes they want to do to tanks I will leave my roses to it's grave and only remember the good times.
This describes my experience too, in some ways. I stopped feeling the desire to play every day about a year before OW1 ended though. I think the lack of interest from the devs and the community being not well because if it somehow ruined the charm back then. I loved the game, currently I have almost 3k hours in the game, most of which are from OW1. OW2 came out and it felt new, kinda, but not really. I stopped playing except a little bit here and there. I decided that I wouldn't play unless I wanted to. After a year of that, I finally feel like playing again, but not really because of the balance. The game feels anxiety inducing. It doesn't seem like it is going to improve. The devs seem misguided in their notion of what they think good balance for the game should be, and honestly, I think its always been that way, even in OW1 days. Either they made the game with one premise for balance and changed it or, they accidentally got it right and had no clue why when they launched OW1. They systematically removed what was good about the game. The devs may go back to 6 v 6, we'll see. If they don't understand why the game is bad right now, they might not do well in the 6 v 6 (better) format either. I just want Marvel Rivals to come out and I am tired of hoping the OW devs will figure it out and being let down for years. They mean well, but they didn't deserve the game they made. Poor custodians in OW1, and poor vision the entire time, they took the best videogame ever made and somehow found a way to ruin it. I love them because I know they love us and the game, but I'm upset with them because they just cannot do right by the game, no matter how good their intentions are. Something is wrong at the core. I miss the old days of looking forward to playing the game at any moment I could and wanting to improve to be my very best.
I absolutely feel you there. The dev team has mainly been the biggest cause for the game's downfall, and I can only watch from the side as I see what they have in store for 6v6 potentially coming back. I wonder how successful they'll be trying to bring back ow's charm.
I was a Winston main In Gold and Plat. The game is literally the same for me, I never got support from my Dva or Zarya in those elos. Nobody played Ana because she was impossible to play on Console back then with lower projectile size and weaker allied aim assist and smaller hitboxes. When Brig was good with Winston people literally didn't know how to play her. The Zen, Lucio Dive was a throw pick in low elo when it was meta. I got hard countered every game, Reaper, Bastion, Hog, Mei, Torb, just every single game if I played well. The awful spam maps are gone and there are way more open dive maps style maps than before even though the majority are still ground based Rush maps. Support immediately felt different though I can see why people might miss the old Support gameplay.
I broke my skill plateau within the last year of Overwatch 1. Hit the technical t500 of the time. The entire time, there was nagging voices within the game chat & my mind telling me I didn't deserve it; didn't earn it. I was a Console Player, & I came late to this game, near the 2 2 2 introduction. After i peaked somewhere around 3.8 - 3.9, something just snapped. I didnt care anymore. I reached my peak. Everyone else i played was miles better, or hell, sometimes even cheating. That's what made me quit. After you hit your peak, what is there for you? I only touch customs now.
Everyone was starting to quit at the time I got my highest peak. I felt as if I accomplished something amazing, but given the circumstances, it felt as though it was unearned. Hearing players like you peak so high so consistently makes me a bit envious. I wish I had the skill & people around me to push me up the ranked ladder. I think I was here for the grind. Once that was gone, when I knew I'd have to put my life into this grind, I stopped. I realized it wasn't worth the stress. You hear so much nonsense coming from this game. "This is META!" "cheaters running galore!!" "Buy this skin!!!" ; it's exhausting. Now that I'm away from the noise, I feel as though I noticed that it's a bit of a universe in itself. Contained madness. Once you're away from it, you'll realize just how futile much of your struggle was.
No bc that's how I felt back more in ow2 than anything. I reached my peak of gm3 in support and realized i was no match to anyone that was higher than that, and i at points didn't think i deserved my rank either, but i was staying in it very consistently so it was very confusing. Once you start realizing that it's not worth the stress trying to grind higher than your peak, that's definitely where you start becoming more indifferent and stop caring as much. Once the grindset is gone, it's kinda peaceful :)
It might be just a small issue to others but what really killed my enjoyment for the game is the battle pass. I stopped playing competitive years ago even when overwatch 1 was still out due it's toxicity. yet I still had a reason to grind for the loot boxes and the leveling system. but ever since they got rid of that the only thing that could get me to improve and grind was taken away and the only bit of satisfaction I can get through the battle pass is now getting a reset after a little bit of time over and over again. It kinda makes my entire grind and the endless hours I invested in the game ever since overwatch 1's release.. point- and meaningless.. It really killed my spirit and I barely play the game anymore because of it.
That's honestly so fair. Ow1 had a lot of stuff you could grind for other than your rank, and they took basically all of that away to follow the trend of other fps games :( I miss grinding for my border and lootboxes ngl
There are so many people like us who have been with this game for 8 years, since the beginning. There are no other games that feel even remotely close. Overwatch is such a special game that over time has just gotten more and more watered down. I love the game and the characters so much but it has definitely gotten to the point where it's lost it's identity trying to "fit in" with other games like Valorant. It's been so simplified to the point where the creativity and skill expression feels non-existent. All of the synergy is gone between teammates and it's like it's being made to appeal to people who don't play the game more than people who actually do. I would rather be in that 3 year period of time where Overwatch had 0 updates at all than the complete disappointment OW2 has been so far. At least then I could enjoy playing tank. I still can't leave this game though, I've found myself recently also becoming the mercy girl stereotype & that's really the only fun I've been able to have recently. Other characters are either too simple or feel bad to play now. This game needs it's personality back & it needs to stop pandering to people who don't even play the game. It's not even nostalgia at this point, Overwatch 1, 6v6, and all it's features and balance are better than OW2 no contest.
I absolutely agree with you. It felt like the game was trying to become more "mainstream" with other fps games and therefore lost its charm and uniqueness. It felt like it was trying to appeal to newer players rather than the veteran players, which isn't remotely too much of a bad thing, but it left us feeling very neglected. The game absolutely lost its personality bc of that. I'd also much prefer the content drought of ow bc I still had goals I wanted to reach back then 😔
This sounds a lot like my experience. I was originally an Xbox player who started playing to hide from IRL problems. I met a bunch of friends online and really enjoyed grinding and playing with them as we all learned and a handful of us reaching top 500 (me on tank). I remember those eager days to get home and log on where we would all chat in discord all day waiting for the next bunch of games we would play, we even participated in console tournaments. Eventually during the content lull a few people left the game and it was just me and my tank duo with an occasional support friend mixed in. I eventually made the switch to PC in the last few seasons of OW1 and peaked around diamond. Fast forward to OW2 as a former top 500 tank main, I do not enjoy the tank experience. I used to have a 2nd tank to share the 6 CC’s I had coming my way while now I'm alone to take all 5, every loss no matter what I do I get spammed “tank diff” and I occasionally get suspended for throwing despite typically holding a 55% or better win rate. I just don't enjoy the game anymore, I am expected to do the job of 2 without any help, I get all the blame and most importantly I am no longer able to duo up with my friend where we could control the game place and in comms by having everyone coalesce behind the tanks plans. Now it feels like with how the meta forces team composition and with counterpicking as bad as it is the game has devolved into a 4v4 team Deathmatch with the tanks sitting off to the side in a CC chain for the DPS to charge ultimates on. I am finding myself playing less and less and I just don't see it ever getting better since they basically took a very unique game and highjacked the franchise to make a shop tailored to the lowest players who will mindlessly spend money on skins and will ditch the game at the drop of a hat for a new fad so an ow1 OG tank main like me can screw off since I'm clearly not wanted or appreciated anymore. It's kind of sad with the history of the game and what this game meant to me helping me navigate my trauma years ago. Sorry for the long post
No, don't apologize for the long post. I love reading everyone's stories so I appreciate you being open about your experience :) Ow for me definitely was an escape from whatever school stress I was feeling, so I definitely understand escaping IRL for a bit to have some fun. I absolutely felt you on how ow2 feels like team deathmatch. It's the most accurate description I feel and tanks feel like such an important role, but they carry so much responsibility and burden in a team fight. They're expected to make space and get kills, but also peel for the backline at the same time and also not get absolutely MELTED within a second. It's a hard role for just one person which is why I highly believe the tank role NEEDS the other tank back in a 6v6 setting. We'll see how they handle on bringing 6v6 back :)
@@feenixsarchive thank you for the words of support, curious if I ever ran into you back in the Xbox days, the GM/Top 500 circle wasn't too huge :) Anyway I hope you stay away and don't get tempted, idk why I keep logging in when I know what awaits me, I guess I just can't fully let go so I run back to the abuse.
True! I wonder if we ever did meet in a game long long ago haha. I hope you break out of the cycle of logging back in tho, the pain and suffering must come to a stop at some point LMAOOO but gl in your games 🫡
You have no idea how much I resonate with your story (but instead of Mercy I mained Lucio) It makes me sad seeing what happening in the game now. I uninstalled like a month ago and I refuse to play even if my friends play. I hope Marvel rivals is good (so far the beta has been great) but if it isn't then I'm fine walking away from these types of games as a whole. I just wish things never turned out this way but nothing we can do about it now.
I'm so glad you could resonate with it! I've heard a lot about Marvel Rivals and it's def been mixed opinions so I'm not sure if I'll try it lol. Even if I don't, there's plenty of other games to enjoy for us out there :)
I started playing overwatch back in 2018 and fell in love with the game and more specifically Lucio. I’ve onetricked Lucio since 2019 with an unhealthy amount of hours into him. The reason I loved him so much was his ability to fall into different playstyles. (and movement XD) I was a “Reddit Lucio” being able to play aggressive and back up our tanks while our other support was able to focus our DPS. I would mostly focus speeding our tanks into and outta combat and booping enemies into them while making my own plays in the back lines. When OW2 rolled around I was excited to play the little aggressive frog I loved, but I couldn’t play him in the way I enjoyed anymore. Playing “Reddit Lucio” didn’t give good results and ended up feeling like throwing the more I did it. I have found certain ways to force that play style but I can only play the way I enjoy with a full 5 stack. I think it’s because team play isn’t playing as a team anymore. It’s a team that all goes for their own plays. To me it feels like they removed a huge part of skill expression. The people who knew the little details of their characters were able to use them to the fullest. Like mercy’s Super jump if a mercy knew how to use it chances were you had a good mercy on your team, but now it’s a function everyone can use. Another thing that’s bothers me is the power creep on tanks but really in general. They have to buff them in drastic ways to make them playable but playable doesn’t make them fun. I still play from time to time but it only takes a few match’s to completely drain any desire I have for the game. I just want the fun game that I used to play back man, for now I’ll just move on to playing more Elden Ring.
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) when you said ow2 is like playing with a team going for their own plays, I absolutely think the same. It became more... Individually based rather than team based in a sense. And omg yes when they made all the characters more "playable" for the new players, it kinda just ruined it for me too. Enjoy the elden ring experience tho 😌 I need to get into the game itself more too!
Yeah honestly I miss my tank duo we did so well together and we had fun now we both barely play it sucks these devs need to open their eyes this game won’t last without change and new stuff or bringing back old stuff that people loved
I'm the kind of player that gets the most out of a game when I play with my friends so when I reinstalled ow for my friends I thought it would make the game feel better. It definitely beats playing alone but I still feel so unmoved whether we win or lose and I too realized that even my friends couldn't magically fix the game for me. I've experienced this same thing with league of legends and I've just concluded that I must have "fallen out of love" with these games. There's something magical about getting into a game and wanting to learn everything about it but these online multiplayers inevitably change for better or worse. Now I kinda just play occasionally when someone asks me to hop on so we can have something that everyone can play and I think that's as good as it gets. Just a game to have in the background.
Ugh, I totally get your experience all too well. It always sucks when a multiplayer game "falls off," and not even friends can help bring it back up. I hope there's other games you can find with your friends to have fun and play with :D
I started playing and still play to this day because of one reason, Reaper. The game IS worse than before, but I still have my Reaper. I don't want to play overwatch, I want to play Reaper and Reaper only (for the most part).
Here's my story: I played TF2 for years, tried everything, learned everything, mained everone, burned out. Thats where I learned I love healing more than anything. I never really liked OW a lot since they clearly copied quite a few things from tf2 but mercy was similar to medic and i was burned out after all so since second half of 2017 when I started I played her 90% of the time and people praised me constantly. I was always a competetive person and watched guides and trained all I could. It gave me huge advantage in tf2 but in OW barely anything because there is too much teamwork required while in tf2 you could win by yourself. I was gold for like the first 2 years. It never helped that the game hides as much info as it can and you never really know whats wrong or what does how much dmg for example so your ego covers all the holes in knowledge. After they nerfed shields I think even back in Ow 1 i became support only player, being a tank meant being a pinata and I didnt like it anymore. Playing dps was never my thing. I got from low plat where I was most of my time in OW 1 to plat 1 when first game ended. I concluded that diamond must be my top rank I could get to. At this point I hated the game for not getting me what I want for years of hard work and all the little bullshit like 50/50 matchmaking, bad teammates, toxic teammates, giving up early for no reason tammates, smurfs, hitboxes of certain heores etc. but I also started to hate mercy and decided I will never again play someone so dependant on the team since you could never count on anyone. I was never a full one trick but when I played supports with aim requirement my hand got so stiff I could barely move my mouse around. In tf2 you could line up your crosshair to the enemy using wasd and thats how I got used to aiming. In OW its almost impossible. So i bounced to heroes not requiring aim like moira. Eventually I got bored and otp brig, she is an amazing hero and she got me to low diamond. Being there required me to give my 100% every game and at this point there was something inside of me preventing me from giving more than 80%. Playing felt like a full time job. Exhausting instead of relaxing. Currently Kiriko is op, sombra one shots you, genji one shots you, winston swoops in for free kill, snipers exist so you have to play peekaboo the whole match, moira kills everyone, enemy team is either too strong or too weak, playing support is no longer fun and feels like survival-horror. I no longer play comp. There is no point. At some point i understood i got into the game to heal and help the team, not to fight for meaningless rank in unfair full of bullshit circus of a game. But I cant quit, I got nothing to fall back to. I healed in Bf4, paladins, tf2, everywhere where there are classes. So i carelessly keep playing OW. Last time I really had fun in this game was in 2018. Nowadays only when I get drunk i enjoy it. Why would I try hard and give it my all as ana for example when the enemy could pick sombra and efortlessly destroy me? Why try when moira just dives in and gets three picks and leaves with no fear? Why think about startegy when rein just mindlessly charges into entire team, gets two kills and just backs out? Why try my hardest fighting for survival while trying to heal when at the end of a match i see that some no skill character like moira or weaver has top heals AND dmg just by existing? These days I play mostly aim based supports because i love healing and I love when things are hard to do well, plus I cant give up, thats in my nature. But this game is a joke. I hate it. I die inside when I launch it. And I dont care anymore. Cant play supports like mercy, weaver, moira or even brig since i get bored with them, everything is no challenge. But when you pick the other ones its like: bro, can I play without being hunted every second I exist?! Sometimes when I know genji is coming i just let him kill me because i am so tired of it. Fortunately it takes only a dash and bullshit right click to the head, milion dmg in a split second. Like I even stand a chance. I win quite often but thats not the point. Its SO FUCKING EXHAUSTING. And there is only one right way to play every hero, to a person like me who likes to get creative and do everything in life my own way that sucks and also maining anyone just means being bored to death. And everything is the same every match. Nothing unique ever takes place. People say the same, games play out the same, people react the same way to everything, every new map is bad. OW is hands down the worst game I ever played. It looks nice and thats the only good thing I could say about it. When I meet a new excited player I think: they have no idea...
ALSO sorry if like my mic picked up on some gross mouth sounds (idk how else to describe it) and if it was unevenly sound balanced I tried ;-;
But I hope you all enjoy nonetheless and lmk your own throughts/experiences towards overwatch!
I will probably still make some ow content from whatever ANCIENT left over clips I have!
those sounds are acually the best part of the video
LMAOOO i mean if you say so
So many of my friends have quit the game just has so many balance problems and they really need to bring back 6v6. I resorted to playing junkrat just for fun now.
LOLL more power to you!
honestly id say the older the clips the better!
It sucks seeing so many small creators come out of nowhere all explaining their disappointments with the game
Really shows the downfall of the game I think 😔
Big creators been showing their frustrations with the game for a while. 6v6 against 5v5 is making them go to war
its actually really cool and i love it, its about damn time.
@@BTRshow Its not realy a war the reality is 5v5 isnt working and the devs cant fix it and never will but becouse its Blizzard/Team4 they refuse to every admit if anything they do didnt woke so we keep just sitting in that strang limbo were everybody knows the only realy option is 6v6 but also we know its not gone happen
@xythiera7255 there is a war, between pro 5v5 and pro 6v6 people. The amount of popular videos of sides going after eachother is pretty high. I agree with you, 5v5 isn't working. Like you said tho, Team 4 will never fix it or really properly balance it. Overwatch 2 will never be in a good state with team 4. That's something we all just have to accept.
I never got the chance to play overwatch 1, I was so excited to finally get to play 2. I think Overwatch 2 is one of the worst multiplayer games i've ever played.
Omg overwatch 1 was a game like no other imho. Was one of the most fun multiplayers I've played. Too bad it's gone now :( ow2 is pretty dookie LOL
@@feenixsarchivecan't go a match without getting counter picked 😅
literally so real
Its not the worst just so much thrown away potantial
@@xythiera7255 For me, it's been the worst. It feels utterly restrictive and just lacks any fun.
OW1 was such a unique experience, you could play one character in OW1 for years and never get bored cause there were so many variables and situations to get into . Even with characters that have a simple kit, it allowed people who didn’t even have an fps background to express their skill in more ways than just raw aiming . OW2 killed this concept in attempt to make the game easy for everyone .
THIS FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK ‼️‼️
I think the mainstream reason people don't like OW2 is the fact that 6v6 is gone. Because once you lose your one tank, you WILL be at a serious disadvantage and it's just not fun at all.
Literally this. Tanks are the pillars of the entire team fight and that's why counter picking became the main strat of the game 😔
@@feenixsarchive and tanks SUCK TO PLAY (im a tank player).. Tank is like the quarerback but tanks cant finish it, they are in the role to pop off, but are useless lol
hope its understandable xd
Hehe I get you crystal clear. I applaud all tank players for doing what they do 🫡
I remember before they nerfed the supports and healing the game would basically be a skylander boss. You had to kill both the supports and then work around the dps to get to the tank and as soon as he’s dead you’ve just won
when they removed one tank from the pool it was fun playing as dps but as a flex player, playing as tank now is miserable........ This has been an ongoing issue and blizzard is SOMEWHAT taking into account of it now.
I feel ya on the love and loss of OW1. OW2 felt...off for some reason. It wasn't until recently I put the pieces together. Without that 2nd tank, every roll has to be a "shooter" more. I was a support main and it was nice being able to contribute to the match without having to aim well like you said. You can still get that feeling a little with Mercy in OW2, but everything else feels more FPS driven which I'm terrible at. OW1 was nice because you could still contribute to your team without being a McShooty master.
YES YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! I also noticed the lack of a second tank made the game very much dps focused, hence why supports became so strong and able to get more picks I think.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THIS
Omg I 100% don't blame you for that either
OOH another point i was thinking (as a tank player) is that they have to be way more overtuned even though their design hasn’t changed making tanking always miserable
The constant checking stats is so relatable, I used to be so confident on playing my favourite hero ball but now with one tank it’s hard to enjoy with all the high demands of what people expect from your one tank player. Also when I heard that PvE was being cancelled after waiting all that time in Overwatch 1, it was so painful because I was so invested in the lore that made me want to learn more about the story. Tysm for sharing your opinion
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) Ugh, when they completely cancelled PvE, I felt super bad for anyone who was even remotely interested in the lore and anyone who bought the missions from a while ago. It's such a shame they literally lied to us.
I relate so strongly to your experience. The exception being that I only started with Overwatch 2.
I genuinely don't know how the developers think that this game is even remotely okay. I have nearly 1,000 hours in Overwatch 2 and a good chunk of that is me just gritting my teeth and hoping that it gets better.
The game I loved died a few seasons into It's lifetime, and even then it is clearly worse than the original. Even I can see that.
Anyways, my life has dramatically improved since I stopped playing. I still think about the game nearly every day, and I'm genuinely sad that I can't play anymore.
But Overwatch 2 is literally unhealthy for itself and it's players.
No thisssssss. I think I'm roughly closer to 2k hours total from ow1 and 2??? I can't remember, but man it's definitely been going downhill ever since ow2's release and I wish it didn't go in that direction :(( I totally felt you on trying to cling on to some hope for the game lol, I stayed a lot longer than I thought I would've, and quitting was kind of difficult.
I'm glad you took the step away from the game and I hope you find another game that's more rewarding and healthier in a sense :D
I miss borders, I miss end cards, I miss seeing my rank, I miss 6v6, I miss telling the homies I only got 2 more arcade wins for a lootbox. The very same homies I played with for 5 years in OW1 quit 1 by 1 in OW2. I hate the fact they removed borders, end cards, rank icon, 1 tank and the FOMO shop on rotation to get a skin with real life currency. We still don't even have weapon inspects when they showed it off all the way back in OW2 trailers. They killed the promised PVE which was the biggest selling point for OW2. Then you got thanos walking around as the solo tank snapping his fingers, and the worst part is they either do not die or die instantly, miserable. OW2 is a failure.
This really hit oml. BUT THE WEAPON INSPECTS YOU'RE SO RIGHT! WHERE THEY AT FR. Ow2 is such a letdown.
@@feenixsarchive They're being used for Mythic weapon skin inspects or as Blizz calls it, "Weapon Flourish".
No way it's gonna be exclusive to the mythic weapon skins. Bruh smh. Come on blizzard
@@feenixsarchive Well as long as the community can come together and outright stop purchasing the dumb overpriced bullshit from the shop, then maybe we will be able to get it available to every hero. But I doubt that will ever happen. This community has too much apathy (like myself) or a few too many stupid whales that don't care about the state of the game and will buy everything in the shop and will ruin this game's future in the long run. It took us what like 9 seasons to finally release premium currency in the battle pass... but not enough for the next one. And yet no one will call it out.
Sorry for the little rant. I just wish I could have my old overwatch that I spent 3500 hours on.
@@acorn1265 Why tf are they tied to mythic weapons? The trailer literally showed it on default skins implying you could use it for any skin.
The pure greed is astounding.
It sucks huge when a passion dies. The thing with games is like it's usually some change that comes along and it feels like we were forced away.
THISSSSS :( It's such a sucky thing, but I feel like it comes naturally too, but it still sucks LOL
@@feenixsarchive But this wasn't natural. This was uniquelely awful. The transition to OW2 sure redefined the sequel into being Overwatch 0.75. More cut content than we got. But you're right about it happening naturally 100%
Oh absolutely, you're right about that too
@@feenixsarchive and the format change has ruined 1/3 of the game for many of us. I miss dual tanking. I think the DPS passive should be changed to more damage to shields and we should go back to 6v6
Man, they changed so much from the original game, going back to its roots is def the way to go atp LOL
Papa Jeff leaving Blizzard was a very-very bad sign for overwatch's soul, making bad solo tank experience in 5v5 format and cancelling PvE entirely proves it.
Honestly I think the reason we feel this way is not having 6v6. You just have to counterpick everything or you can’t play, so you end up playing characters you don’t want to, leading to not having fun.
there is less counterpick required than ever what are u on about
Are you bronze rank or something? This is counter picks the game. And if you don't counter pick your team will yell at you all game because its so vital. @geert574
my brother introduced me to the overwatch beta back when i was only 8 years old. i practically grew up playing overwatch and it sucks so much seeing a game you loved so dearly fall so far from what it once was.
Yeah 😞
I remember how fun the game used to feel like when I first started playing it, grouping up with my friends and pulling all nighters, now I see myself hoping for that glimpse of the past and logging on every day just praying that maybe, just maybe, that fun that I used to have would return somehow.
But deep down I know that is over, I'm using nostalgia to cope with the hate and disgust that I feel every time that I open this game.
This hit so close to home oml
Remembering Overwatch 1 feels like I’m remembering a close friend that I’ll never see again. I made so many incredible memories and it was genuinely the most fun game I have ever played. Of course, it had a it’s fair share of issues, but the community and fluid nature of the game encouraged teamwork and communication in a way I had never experienced before and have failed to find since. Elements of this still exist in Overwatch 2, but it just feels like a neutered version of the game I fell in love with.
In retrospect, I don’t think the people making decisions about the game really ever understood what made it so great. It really bums me out that the game I fell in love with only exists alongside the memories I made in it - in the past and in my memory.
Thissssss hit home. Nothing else was quite like ow1, and it's a shame it's all a part of our memories now. I cope now that the dev team will try to restore it to its former glory but I highly doubt it.
I hate OW but my timeline of getting there happened so much faster. I started playing OW2 around April 2023 after Lifeweaver was released. I had always been interested in the game back during its release but I heard how toxic it was and was scared to try but with OW2 being free to play and PVE being in the works I was excited to try.
And then not only did I find out that PVE wasn't happening but Lifeweaver was considered a throw pick for awhile and even today isn't considered that great competitively and people still constantly make videos about how bad he is. He's the hero I joined the game to play because I liked his kit so much. I have hundreds of hours on him, more than any other character and yet just bc of how he's valued and his kit I can't even feel comfortable playing competitive without being told Im throwing.
As such I ended up playing characters I was unfamiliar with in the beginning of my competitive journey and as a result I fell in rank really hard. I slowly climbed back up but I was so discouraged I just gave up comp immediately. What's the point of playing something if I cant even play the characters I like?
I have long since muted all chats aside from group & whispers and I exclusively play QP now. But when a game feels like this what's the point of playing it? I've resolved to play through the Battle Pass on each new season but other than that I don't play. I've gone back to my WoW roots and tbh it's so liberating. Dying in WoW for the first few times actually gave me anxiety and I realized it was bc of OW. Mount farming and daily quests are so much more relaxing lol
Omg I've seen some amazing lifeweavers in my time playing, but they def aren't very common bc he just gets outclassed by all the other supports. I'm sorry you felt discouraged from playing someone you really enjoyed in a competitive setting
Ngl u soft fr if u can't handle a lil trash talk but ye after ow1 they started lowering the skill cealing on all characters I play genji when ow1 launched and they removed bufferdashing they added the ability to cancel deflect when u can already do that by wall climbing they removed infinite wall climb and ledge super dash they do all this just to make the character ez to play making it more accessible
Bruh the auto moderation are so bad that if you speak anything AND someone doesnt like you
You could get muted or banned
LW seems like a weak pick BUT if you got crazy reinhardt and managed to save his ass everytime
You get my honor my friend. Not even mercy could save reinhardt
@@nin_kirsuji5284 OW players thinking they know trash talk (cries and reports after 1 n word)
Crazy how good my intuition can be when I predicted the game was gonna go downhill after Jeff left
Jeff was the reason behind 5v5 just fyi. He first proposed the 1-3-2 format that everyone hated and also was behind the character design for Orisa and the other one dimensional characters. Jeff seems like a nice guy for sure but I don’t think he knew how to solve the puzzle of the game they created.
I knew the game was doomed as soon as the merge with activision happened
Do you mean when Microsoft bought them? Activion merged with Blizzard in 2008 so 8 years before Overwatch. If you mean the microsoft merge that also makes no sense as Overwatch 2 was very far in development by the Microsoft got involved. @huckmart2017
its was already going downhill way before jeff left
As a tf2 player you have my condolences. 💐
First time seing a tf2 player not being an asshole about it, thats rare
Im now wondering which TF2...
Im guessing Team Fortress 2, but there's always the possibility of being Titanfall 2 too, thanks EA for murdering it :(
@@stitchperlo9639 Hey, generalizing ain't nice.
@@blackoutedmind Ahahaha some times I wonder too but we know the answer every time
hey i hope you're well. i must say,this is a very good video. overwach for me is love and hate. im currently trapped in high silver/low gold because whenever i win a game i end up either getting worse teamates or i get rolled by the other team. ive put hundreds of hours into the game and ive gotten better,but the matchmaking system for lower ranks just doesnt help in any way.
i look forward to seeing more of your videos.
Thank you for your comment, it means a lot ^^ Man, even in higher ranks I'm ngl the matchmaking is just as bad. There's always bound to be people on your team who just can't beat the enemy team so it's mainly a team diff all around. It definitely felt like to me, no matter if I'm getting better, if their team is just better than there's only so much you can do tbh.
Matchmaking aint better higher up though😭 and on console any game above plat was just Xim Widows😭
ONG THIS
OW used to be so good. I dont hate Overwatch 2, I just hate playing it if that makes sense. I had to uninstall it or get stuck in the cycle because its addicting but miserable to play.
I get you 1000000% it's how I felt for a while too during most periods of ow2
And 5v5ers will say that 6v6 wasn't good and all of us have nostalgia and rose tinted glasses for ow1, the problem isn't nostalgia, the problem is the format that forces you to counterswap constantly, as Flats said, team 4 originally mentioned that they wanted to keep the option to main a character (because they knew there were a lot of otp's), then, when they weren't able to maintain that condition, they changed the argument that it was intended for players to switch characters.
Team 4 can't accept their errors, they will do whatever they could to simply not accept that they messed up, an example of this is when they ignored the community asking for 6v6 (subject that luckily seems that they are going to talk about sooner or later).
In conclussion, what made overwatch feel so unique was the strong and weak points of every character that in a symmetric format (6v6) each one could cover the weakness of the other, by removing a tank, now the game forces you to focus the weakness of the remaining one since they buffed them so hard that there's no other option, then with the new format a lot of other issues have occurred also, and the solution for blizz was to buff other roles in an infinite cycle of stubbornness against accepting that they did something wrong in the first place.
New players might like the game at it's current state (since the only thing you need to do is to know each character's counter and the skill level has dropped a lot (bigger hitboxes and hitscans having more angles caused by the missing tank)), but for ow1 veterans the game feels boring.
At this point if there was an option to play 6v6 even with double shields and longer queues, I'd gladly take that 100 times than playing a single match of counterwatch.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) I completely stand by everything you said. Team 4 being stubborn and not fixing their errors, counterwatch being unfun, the lowering of skill on basically every character, big sigh all around tbh
I hate hate hate how much I can relate to this, Overwatch is so close and dear to me...yet has been going trough the same motions as you. Thank you for being vocal about such a human thing, I shed a few tears bahaha
aww :(( my heart goes out to you! I'm glad you could relate to it ^^
Girl i feel you… you worded it extremely well… and you sharing your relationship with the game, being focused on numbers and all, was very insightful for me. A kind and warm thank you from this stranger to another ♥️ Thank you for sharing this🌺
I don’t really know any other shooting games like overwatch so that’s really the only reason I keep playing.
I really felt you there. It's why it was my main game for so long. But I tried apex and valorant which are kinda similar to ow but not really. I'd suggest those ^^
Paladins I think is pretty similar from what I've seen and heard it looks quite fun too
@@IOwnNarcot1czno paladins looks so weird and clunky
Marvel rivals seems similar
Play tf2
I Didnt even quit, just one day i stopped playing and didnt launch the game again, its been 6 months now, wild
Once OW1 got deleted so did my passion for it. I relate so much to this video and thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you for watching! ^^ I'm happy to hear you related to my experience as well :)
I can relate to this video so much. It actually touched my heartstrings, because I like you find it so hard to let go. I've "quit" Overwatch several times through the years even with OW1 but something always brought me back. It's this thought that one day I might feel that excitement like I used to back in 2016 and fomo with the skins. A part of me is still holding out that 6v6 will return and that I'll be happy I invested my time and money if or when Overwatch returns to those glory days. I wanna play Mercy and Kiriko too, but feel like I'm at a disadvantage so often when I meet a Bap, Lucio or Ana. You know the game is in a bad place when you are "forced" to play heroes you don't want/like just to keep up with the rest of the players. As a support main what I always loved was feeling like I could lift my teammates, enable them to pop off. It just feels great when you get that perfect rez or ultimate and turn the tides of the team fight. I've always gravitated towards supports in games, and I think it's for this reason. The fact that you know they really appreciate having you in their team, that you got their back. When they fall, you are there to lift them back up.
Also thank you for the Chrono Cross music
Omg, I relate to you so much. There was a time, especially when I was taking longer breaks from ow (aka a couple days), what always brought me back was exactly the same reason as you! I was playing to find that same nostalgic experience back in ow1. BUT YES enabling your team and feeling like you had impact >>>>>> main reason why I play support. But yeah, getting "forced" to play the "meta" heroes was just :/
Awww 🥹 ofc! Chrono Cross music just hits different 😌
In the exact same boat, and while it makes me sad to see so many folks losing a game they love like I did, this sudden outpouring of smaller creators--regular people like me--has given me a sense of catharsis and reassurance that no it's not just me and that the game that I used to love did in fact change
As a Reinhardt main. I sympathize. I stopped playing a while back and felt exactly the same way. I was a main tank in OW1 and took pride in it, I loved the intense teamplay... Now the identity I enjoy roleplaying in OW has been gutted of its soul.
Such a compelling journey. This was beautiful and I support that break from the game. I love overwatch so much and I would step back if I felt the way you did about it. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It was really interesting.
Your comment means a ton, thank you :D
I feel the same about this video! A really well done one ❤️
I felt every word you said. OW had such a special place in a my heart and I would have so much fun. I just couldn’t, I tried but OW2 didn’t feel the same, I played it till January and then finally I decided to stop playing. I just hope they bring back OW or at least just bring 6v6.
Ya, Overwatch 2 has been the only game in my life that makes me feel unhealthy.
my mental health improved like 10% after i stopped playing overwatch
the way i’ve seen like 5 different people in the comments saying their journey started & ended w the release of ow2 💀 that’s….not a good thing lmfao rip
LMAOOO it definitely says something
oh my god that kings row game brought me back… i miss it so much. it’s so miserable ive had to quit aswell.
now i love playing elden ring with a clear conscience - it’s fun but especially with coop
God I feel you there. I got elden ring yesterday so I'm trying to grind it myself too!
you thought you were addicted to Overwatch?? hahaha, just wait until ER clicks for you! now *thats* a game worth playing!!
gotta say tho, i felt that sentiment of yours where you said you lost all passion to play, let alone to improve. the stress of rank, the stats, dealing with toxicity and just general bullshit when life already has enough of that? yeah... it wasn’t fun, wasn’t worth it. it’s hard to find motivation when the game is unfun, unbalanced, counter-dependant, boring and unrewarding. none of my OG friends play anymore, and just the way it plays feels like an uncanny ghost of itself designed to waste my time and money (WHICH IT DID! we all paid for OW1 and they just straight up deleted our game like WTAF???)
…when i realised it would never be the same again, i tried to focus on having fun - until THAT feeling went away aswell, and i just could not find a genuine reason to play it at all after that. none. nothing. that shit is straight up mentally damaging now i swear lol
if you want to find passion for a game again, i promise you Elden Ring and other soulslikes are the experience you’re looking for. they are literal works of art. beautiful craftsmanship, a developer with a passion and an original team with a vision?!? never has a game made me feel like that. i really could go on forever but i shouldnt spoil. you’ll know what i mean when it hits you ;D
anyway, thanks for reading my wall. loved the vid, and i wish you the best post OW-addiction!
just remember- dont give up, skeleton!
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hehe ER is def my first souls game and I'm going in blind but I'll persevere! It looks amazing already and I can't wait to go deeper into it to see the bliss that is elden ring.
I'm glad you were able to relate a lot to my concerns playing as well, it's honestly really nice T^T It does sucks when a game becomes unfun and not worth to play anymore. I appreciate your comment sm! :D
I came to terms with the fact that I will never be a high elo player. I don't know why, there is just something about this game that doesn't click with me. I also refuse to play every day, so that might be why. If being GM means wasting my life away, then I'm okay being gold forever and enjoying myself.
12:10 this is so so agreable, i really miss overwatch 1, sure lots of cc, shield etc but there was so many thing to learn, and overwatch was my comfort game and same goes to mercy, her movement overall was so smooth, i wished i had more time and chance to learn it better back then, and big part also the fact that every celebration there is skins you can get for free essentially if you have enough coin, now you have to play, it sucks.
everything pretty locked behind walls, "new game" but they started bringing back cass flashbang and trying to make rein shield more tankier, like you might as well open back overwatch 1, all they do is lie and lie to make you come back. stressing over stats especially with characters like ana and kiriko is so relatable, i was initially gonna reach gold.. was close in overwatch 1 but didnt happen, i dont know im kinda yapping sorry, just feel unnecessary to hype ow2 anymore, with everything they didnt do.. plus in ow1 you can play qp and actually have fun, where if you see now, its just too many sweat, toxicity at its max, you cant even have place to practice hero you want without getting dump with bucket of crap..
thank you for sharing your opinion and experience feenix, it made me happy to know you not forcing yourself to play this game anymore and do what you actually want
YES overwatch 1, even if I reached the highest rank, I still felt like I had room to improve and that was the best part. I wanted to get better and it seemed like I could continuously grow :D unlike ow2 it just felt like I wasn't able to grow "better" without playing the "meta" heroes.
OMG BRING BACK LOOTBOXES LIKE PLEASE. The game was "pay to win" at some point when you had to buy the bp to unlock the new broken hero that recently released too it was ugh. They messed up balancing and going back to ow1 is their only solution 💀 ow2 is just simply not as fun. Don't apologize for yapping, Im doing a lot of that already LMAOO
I appreciate you listening to me and sharing your experience as well
I fully agree with you. I lost my passion for this game completely. I was an off-tank player in ow1 (only main tank I really played was rein) and I loved how tanks synergized with each other. Being the only tank has been absolutely miserable. I will not return unless 6v6 comes back and if doesn't... oh well 🤷♂️
Ugh off-tank was an off role I loved playing back then too, such a shame they removed the dual tank synergy fr :(
this videos sums up 50% of my experience with overwatch. sometimes its like this, and then other times im actually enjoying myself. I have a love hate relationship with this game
Overwatch 2 is like drugs without the high. Addictive, f*cks up your mood, but doesn’t even feel good.
I was basically a Sym 2.0 one trick for this game, nothing was ever as good as she was. Popping a personal shield in front of a High Noon and throwing some turrents down at his feet while the animation finishes, surviving because the shield takes the hit, and then winning out over a duel someone used their literal ultimate on with just your basic kit? You can't make drugs that hit better than that. I miss the character gameplay I fell in love with, but the newer iterations of Sym are so different it's night and day. Nothing is the same. I never even bothered trying OW2 because there just wasn't any point.
My hope for 6v6 is the only reason i still play this game but i made the decision recently to just play a lot less. before it was everyday now its 3 times a week maybe
Oh what a day it would be if 6v6 returned tbh. More power to you for playing less tho :)
I think the best way I can put it is that overwatch 2 just feels directionless and hollow with random change for the sake of change.
Directionless in the sense of pointless character redesigns, time of day changes that ruin art direction, how uncohesive hero select animations seem now, the new ranked system, 5v5 and game direction as a whole.
Hollow in how the monitization changes removed basically all forms of progression, the loss of PVE and any progression of lore, skins for the sake of a battle pass theme instead of things that fit the character.
I know most of these things are "trivial" but the game has slowly ship of Theseus's itself into a compelelty different experience I want no part in. I guess that's what happens when most of the old dev team leaves blizzard.
Comparing it to a similar shooter I love and still do Splatoon and how that series progressed foreward while maintaining the soul of the series makes me sad to see the state of OW.
I absolutely agree with how directionless and pointless ow2 became. Some kit reworks seemed a little like they did it for the sake of "change" rather than what was needed. Progression became bleh, and lots of other things.
I love reading the comment sections on videos like this cuz it shows i'm not alone
Thanks for sharing Feenix ❤ can relate to this on so many levels
I'm so glad you could
As someone who quit Overwatch right before Role queue was implemented, I miss the old Overwatch.
you put a lot of my own thoughts into words so perfectly. It makes me so sad knowing I'll never relive that same feeling I had playing ow1
I'm so glad you could relate to it :)
Great video! I primarily listen to my videos at work via Bluetooth earbuds for content while I work away and I came back to say that I appreciate how consumable your content is via audio only. Interesting video! I’d love to see more video essay/rant/story videos like this, your voice suits it 😊👍
I can do absolutely relate, to just about everything.
I played tank since s9 ow1, I wanted to get better, see improvement, and see numbers go up.
I remember starting as a silver player and just wanting to get to plat, my friends and I would grind for many sleepless nights to make it happen.
When I hit low masters at the end of overwatches life cycle, I felt genuinely good about my progress, but then I learned of my tank buddies never being able to play with me again.
The game immediately felt less fun because I essentially lost a friend with one change to the game.
And it’s not like we can just play ow1.
I remember starting groups to play in as many games with as many people with mics as I could, there are no more players with mics. No more community, no more fire for getting better among the broader majority of players.
I used to pick this game up here and there, but I can’t remember the last time I played anymore.
I miss my favorite game
I absolutely felt you there. The passion of grinding to get better disappeared. It felt like the community no longer had the passion either as no one wanted to use their mics. It just felt dry. Soulless. I miss my favorite game too :(
I can genuinely agree with this honestly.
I am currently in my quitting era and I've been on this game since day 1 of its release and it doesn't feel the same anymore. For me, 5v5 and 6v6, stats or none of the main game stuff mattered.
What really took my toll was the amount of times I had to hear the constant FOMO riding of "This game is back again" and "We're so back" stuff.
We lost PvE (sure. we cant have nice things)
The Patch Notes weren't lining up (Some characters kept getting a weird tun up or toned down when not needed)
Characters needed a constant fix or change in kit to be well suited for the 5v5 (which could have been done whilst the game was in development)
Casual vs Competitive players would never meet eye to eye and it was always such a toxic battlefield that neither can agree on
Its somewhat upsetting when people can't just play to have fun anymore and I feel like this comes in the form of free to play accessibility and the lack of open play between all platforms (switch being a barren wasteland, Xbox actually being somewhat decent to play and Playstation community is toxic as all hell and im from PS). Its amazing that its accessible by default but now EVERYONE just magically gains a "I know everything because I won a single game" just urks me. If I paid some good cash for the game, I wouldn't have to worry about a Reinhardts hammer being $53 CAD. Its FP2 so the additional Microtransactions can happen and its just so rough.
At the end of the day, everyone experience is their own. Mine is slowly diluting to where I am better off playing a different game than Overwatch 2
I started playing OW in late 2016 and all throughout 2017, 2018 and half of 2019 I played it religiously. I was utterly in love with this game and the characters. I mained tracer, widow, zen and dva. I quit in 2019 because I just wasn't allowed to play the game by the devs OR the people I matched with.
I stopped playing tracer (even before dmg stats were visible to everyone LOL) people still cried about me not doing anything for the team even though I was a nightmare for healers in the backline.
I also stopped playing widow because over time the double shield meta became more and more widespread and it got to a point where it seemed like even the most casual team in quickplay full of average joes was playing double shield and for a player like me who spent hundreds of hours practicing my aim, for some casual to just hold right click and immediately make all those hours irrelevant was infuriating. Sure, I could still get some highlights here and there and win a few rounds for my team, but it wasn't nearly as consistent as before at all.
Playing dva I was always the off tank and unless I was eating ults, I was once again told to switch. I'm 100000% sure these were all idiots that were echoing whatever their favorite youtuber or pro player said about dva. I was constantly putting so much pressure as dva and saving my teammates with def matrix but in the end I always felt unappreciated. It's funny that most of my encouragement from the game was actually negative and toxic in nature because it wasn't my teammates who told me I was playing good, it was the enemy team raging and seething over me. When I was doing good, my team almost never acknowledged it and just focused on the one genji that popped off twice during the match, or the pocket heals.
My will to play continued to dwindle over time even though my love for the game was still there. (muting players worked wonders at first for my mental heatlh, but then the man children on my team would start throwing because of it)
Over time me and the friend I used to play with were constantly uttering the words "let's play quickplay to get to play whoever we want" and when I noticed this is when I knew things had been wrong for a long while. Shortly after that, after a couple of "relapses" I quit and started playing monster hunter (which became my new passion) and I suddenly felt alive again. Because of this I knew I was never going back to overwatch.
When OW2 released I decided to give it a try. I thought "hey, maybe I can get to play widow now that there's only 1 tank" but oh man the game felt so off. I stuck with it for a week but I really wasn't enjoying my time with it despite getting to play widow for the first time in years. Since it's release... well... YOU know the rest of the story. Having the game I loved constantly push me away little by little by the devs themselves and the community was sad, and to come back for a week after OW2 only to see it be a shell of it's former self was even more sad. I'll always miss 2016 - 2018 overwatch :(
Ugh I've seen those experiences (from former teammates or my friends) of being told to switch off even though they're leaving an impact on the enemy team and making them upset, but the team just puts the blame on them anyways. It's definitely been tough with the game sucking out people's enjoyment of playing and on top of the toxic community, but taking a step away from it does wonders fs :) I'm glad you found a new passion for monster hunter!
I miss the attention to skins, the events, events lasting a month instead of a week or day, the animations, heroes coming out more slowly, torb and sym not being reworked every 2 years or so, the tons of alterations on supports role. Like there was a consistency to the game and back with Jeff they cared about having a good fun experience. I couldn't care about some mythic skin with 5 ugly skins for 40 bucks and other 20 dollar skins every single week! 2017-2018 overwatch was amazing...everyone I know started quitting then.
The reasons are simple. The game has changed and we grew older. Blizzard has done an incredibly poor job at managing this game and the love the devs used to have died quite a bit, similarly to the love players have for the game in turn
I understand your perspective and I think it’s a natural response to playing the same game for so long. I haven’t quit the game because I still enjoy learning heroes I haven’t played before but I think one of the big issues that’s really unsolvable about this game is that it’s sweaty no matter what game mode you’re in. Whether you’re playing unranked or competitive it all feels the same and whenever you’re doing something difficult/competitive nearly 100% of the time it’s bound to feel like a chore. The only thing that really fixes it is to (1) stop caring about rank/stats or (2) just take a break from the game or have a backup game that’s relaxing to you
Thank you for your thoughts :D I absolutely agree that the game is sweaty no matter the gamemode, I started noticing it when playing qp with my friends. I'm glad you're still enjoying and learning the game tho :) I definitely think I tried both of the "fixes" you provided, but it only really solidified me to just quit unfortunately :/
@@feenixsarchive yeah way easier said than done I agree. those “fixes” are just what I end up telling myself when the going gets tough 😂
The number thing is so true. . I focused on my stats so much even tho i was fine. I slowly realized they truly didnt matter bc i could have all the kill, the best healing and still lose. I start to question my skill, my enjoyment and everything i tried working towards. The game made me feel hopeless and i start to notice my attitude changed aswell. From easy-goung, carefree and only wanting to have a good time to overly competitive, toxic and harsh on myself. Its so weird how i grew up on this game and how it affected me.
Ugh I felt every single word from this comment. I'm glad, and also sorry, you had to experience what I also had to go through
I dunno, I just really miss how scrappy old Overwatch was compared to this. Where it felt like you actually entered a back and forth instead of a definite win or loss.
Old Overwatch characters were designed around having a high risk and high reward. Genji, Reaper, Winston, Tracer, you just commit to what you're doing by entering the fray and doing the best you can to sync up what enemies you fight.
But OW2 is catering to this very boring playstyle where characters get a very inordinate amount of leverage for the amount of engagement they need. Widow can one shot you from whole maps away. All ana has to do is sit in her backline and no one can touch her. They get rewarded for minimal interaction.
It's unfun to play WITH too.
Weaver waits around and opens himself up to flank. Ashe will tunnel vision opening themselves up to flank. I just want to engage. And if I decide to play the game, I'm at a net disadvantage cause the enemy has less to target.
I know the feeling. Overwatch was the first FPS that have a strong identity, so many heroes to choose, all very different between them, and some have a strong sinergy between them like rein/zarya, dva/winston, tracer/genji or lucio/ana. I remember rhe first time I play Ana, it feel so good, the way she plays with her pros and cons, how fun she was too play, but the particular thing was the interactions with other characters and that make her unique for me. Of course the gameplay was awesome, for the sinergy. But when 5v5 came, ana wasnt the same. The game lost his identity, and every new character that was release was more broken than before. I also play zen, bap, Moira, lucio and some brig. But I love the game cause of Ana, and there comes Kiriko and Illari. Was the point of a good sleep or nade, when with a simple CD all is cancelled, or having a turret that heals your team for you while you can be just shooting. I miss 6v6, and I miss the old Overwatch. But its like you said "maybe its time to move on"
P.D: I love the music of final fantasy for the video
Here before this blows up
Same here ❤
As a fellow GM/T500 player (though I played tank), same thing happened to me - took a break and realized I didn't even really like the game anymore and that break just got longer and longer until I barely cared. When I came back, I had no motivation to play or climb. It feels like a chore I'm forced to do. I don't know if it's the inferior ranked system, terrible reward incentives for play time or the gameplay loop changing, it's probably a combination of everything. I just stopped caring. Don't know how Blizzard managed to make me stop caring about a game I would play 8+ hours a day, but congrats, they managed to do it.
Your explanation was precise and clear thank you sm hun u did ur best for ur friends and ur teammates but maybe it’s ok to just move on honestly life is about change…even with pink mercy the underlying problems are still there u still won’t be happy after awhile.
Thank you for your words
I feel you, got the game for my ps4 first and loved it. I even bought it again to play on pc even tho i couldnt run it at the time. Now ow2 just doesnt feel the same 😭 i miss those ow1 days... I absolutely hate how the game was treated
Same same. I tried my best to like the new OW 2, but slowly my complaints from day 1 became a reality for everyone, even the biggest defenders of OW 2.
What a shame the game went down like this...
Me and my son would duo tank in comp everyday after school no clue why they made these decisions for the game.
Great thing about gaming is that there is so much to play now that leaving one game doesn't have to be so bittersweet
My friend group and I used to be smash sweats but almost all of us got sick and tired of Smash and we moved on to FPS shooters and other fighting games
In short, uhhhh, variety is the spice of life and spicing up your gaming sessions with new games definitely keeps gaming as it should be, a fun hobby
I play ow time to time but I started playing ow 2 I was addicted. I was determined to get better at mercy and climb ranks as her but then I realized I didn’t have the skill enough to branch out to better supports and playing other roles felt stressful because of the stat board that everyone could see if I was doing bad or good. The only times I enjoyed playing was with my friends since we all could laugh and have fun but by myself I just preferred to play other games. Hopefully the game gets better soon especially with solo queuing and being able to play as characters you’d want to play as
very well said, at this point only a version of overwatch 1 can bring us old veterans back
Chrono Cross soundtrack on the background. Always good to listen to.
I played overwatch 1 a whole lot, i got more then 1500 hours into Ana in overwatch 1. But when i played the open beta of ow 2, i already missed the second tank and this was before the release of ow 2. Im not a GM ranked player like you are, but my experience as support and specially as Ana, is that people bully you as Ana player in Ow 2. And their is a reason why i love Ana, because when she got released, i was a Mercy Main and i remember joining the map Dorado and Mercy was taken and people truly encouraged me to play Ana, while i had no experience with her at all. Thats when i became an Ana main becaue of the Community this game use to have, but today, it somewhat feels like a toxic wasteland were everyone blames eachother and never truly work together as a team, specially in a rank like gold. People run off more then ever, they dont stay as team let alone play as team and i feel like with ow 2 they truly took down teamplay with it. Because, it feels like people just wanna deal damage and dont really want to play as a team and what i noticed the most, is the fact that its so rare these days to truly have an Equal Match up in Competitive Play. Its mostly stomp or be stomped. Top that off with the fact, that i think 5v5 is the main reason why the game feels unbalanced, its not the Heroes at all. Cause maps are designed with 6v6 in mind and in 5v5, that sure might create more room for dps heroes, but it also creates an unbalanced factor on those maps. Sadly, they currently keep buffing and nerfing heroes and the balance is still no where to be found, mainly due to the fact that 5v5 is whole soul reason why its unbalanced. I think with the Tank Changes they did in Ow 2, would have been Amazing in a 6v6 format, i truly believe in that. Great video and i feel your pain in this one, cause 5v5, took down the soul that Overwatch 1 had with Overwatch 2 🥲
At this point I am starting to regret having received Overwatch 1 as a gift and addicted to it in late 2018... (2.5k hrs time) and had too much hope in OW2... I am going to cry
No I totally get that :(( I spent so much time and energy into this game when I was addicted, but sometimes we just have to move on and reminisce about the good ol days 😔
@@feenixsarchive "the parties eventually end" I was delulu to think it wouldn't happen, now it's painfully clear...😭
SAME! such a great memory of how good the game was and trying to force myself to play has gotten to point where I dont even want to boot it up.
Ugh it honestly sucks so much. I'm glad you could relate tho :D
@@feenixsarchive def fond memories of ow1! Hopefully you found some other games you love!
absolutely! same for me hehe. and thank you!
“Just one more sadge Overwatch video before bed” ;-;
I recognize so many of my feelings in yours. I used to love Overwatch. It was special. Overwatch 2 basically ripped out a lot of what made the original special and well, you said it perfectly; it’s just not the same anymore.
There’s a lot of conversations about a potential 6v6 return and I do think that’s a big step in the right direction. OW2 was a mistake in pretty much every sense and that’s what both angers and saddens me so very much. More than I can put into words. I’ve felt so robbed for years.
I 100% understand your sentiment. I hope they start making good progress to fix their mistakes :)
I actually skipped a beat when I saw the Tyrodin7676 tag on the rein 😅
And from my perspective like everything in life ow is another stage of life, I share a lot of your feelings about being excited to play ow when I was in highschool, going at it in ranks and achieve goals, being able to enjoy time with friends in tournaments and then casual qp matches (I miss those times and I regret not being able to create a strong bond with them when I had the opportunity) and a lot of other thoughts you explained in this video, nowadays im kinda interested about the 6v6 and 5v5 debate and how it will affect the gameplay for the tank role since I was a main tank player back in the day.
Hehe was it you? :o but yes, even tho I personally lost all hope for the game and don't plan to play it again, I do wonder how the recently announced 6v6 testing will go!
@@feenixsarchive I dont think it was me, If im not mistaken that is a xbox footage right? Therefore it was definetly not me in that clip specially because my tag in ow is just Tyrodin.
Anyway how is it going? I also have some experience quitting games I really liked and for me it is something else rather than just "I just dont have the passion", it is about "I dont want to support this developer" kinda thing too, appreciating my time and not wasting money and time on a game that is not addresing the core issues and them being just greedy and abusive.
i have the same feelings as u when i quit
something that i could rationalize as why i dont like ow anymore was
1. 5v5 feels like team deathmatch, i didnt like that mode in ow1 and only played qp and ranked. I liked the teamwork and coordination part of the game and 5v5 has taken that away little by little
2. role passives, basically taking player agency away and giving it to the game. This makes it quite frustrating when it comes to decision making, feels like there are 10 wrong decisions and 1 right one.
It's ultimately about who you play not how you play. This format and passives is slowly killing hero identities..
That's mostly why it's boring to me now.. hopefully one day we will get 6v6 back with no passives as a game mode in the future
Comparing 5v5 to a team deathmatch is actually so accurate omg. It feels more catered to individual performance rather than team play, which was the main reason ow was so fun. Thank you for your comment :D
Nah the shiny ranks and all the cool streamers occupying those ranks really made you want to climb ranked. Great point
The music made me feel so nostalgic about OW1, great choices ❤
I'm glad ^^
Your story really mirrors mine except I went from gold to masters instead of plat to gm.
Really the soul just feels so sucked out of the game now... i miss ow1 so much...
I can really relate to the idea of the characters you play holding you back in certain situations but not wanting to play the stronger characters because you simply don't find them fun.
The way you described it as a drag is exactly how I feel about that dynamic with OW2. A game is meant to be fun and when part of the games premise is pick whoever character you want to play out of this large roster, and then you do that only for the game scenario to basically say "well actually you can't choose that character this match if you want to be able to play the game," it just feels awful.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :) The whole thing where you are inclined to play a certain pool of characters in order to be "able to play" and also win (counter swapping for instance) just takes away how vast the hero roster actually is. It definitely feels limiting at points when it feels like there's one "right" character to play in a certain scenario.
I hate how enemy teams are always well-oiled machines and I can't get teams that understand natural cover.
Literally this 😭
I hate this game but there is no experience like playing Doomfist in any other fps it’s ridiculous how unique and cool he is
dps doom, never forget what they took away from us
you don't know how much i hate it now that i even oblige many players to quit it and find a better game wether story or competitive
I really do miss the days of overwatch 1. I very recently stopped playing overwatch 2 as it's just not the game I felt in love, I tried to love it but blizzard is just ruining and killing this game and it really hurts to see my once loved game get ruined...
I really felt you there :((( we're in the same boat
I 100% relate to your journey, especially during covid albeit as a dps player instead. I did really enjoy flexing to Ana on support as to me she is such a cool concept for a "healer" in a shooter. It felt like even if didn't dps or hit crazy sleeps (I did, my Ana was S tier fr), you could still get value.. Hitting a big nade was so much harder and 10x more rewarding than in OW2 where Kiriko just comes in from Narnia and pressing E on the ground...
It's such a snooze fest of what feels like you have to work MUCH less for value in the grand scheme, which just creates this deathmatchy feel to every single game mode. Mind you I enjoy deathmatch in the arcade section, but the complexity of tank synergies and support synergies and making sure to cover bases with a dps line up in case of flyer heroes etc. was so much more diverse and complex.
Shame that we lost a great thing, that although not as main stream as some fps titles out there (that's okay, Overwatch can be niché), it had a devout fanbase, that it just feels like they took a big fat dookie on with OW2 to try to rake in as many new players as possible to replace their loyal fanbase for years..
The last point of trying to bring in many new players and practically neglecting the original fanbase is SO REAL. I remember them specifically changing mercy a ton so she's easier to pick up for new players (even tho she was already easy to pick up in general). Yes, I agree the new synergies of team play in ow2 kinda feels like a deathmatch and feels like you need to work much harder to get value OR just abuse a character which makes the game SUPER easy, which sucks.
Started playing OW1 as well. Like when it was in closed beta. But i've never been competitive and never cared about numbers. I just play unranked a few times per day. Try to get my challenges done. And it's fine, though it feels pretty harsh sometimes. I think it's worst when you go against premade teams, since I play solo.
even watching your old OW1 gameplay makes me feel like the vibe is completely different, like the way the game looks more unique and how much more relaxed it was.
omg yes it felt so much more smoother too. it was really really nice, altho as a support it was definitely just as stressful LMAO
@@feenixsarchive I used to be a tank main but I quit because it's so miserable now LMAO ;-;
As someone that has played ow since the beginning climbing my way to mid gm having fun for many years I knew that ow was gonna go downhill the moment they announced ow2, the game had its issues before this, but atleast i always had fun. Same as you, i realise anytime i play ow2 I am just coping, the game is gone, so is the passion. I only play dm nowdays, but I will probably quit that now too.
It's always so nice seeing people resonate with how my passion faded away from the game, especially once it switched it ow2. Sigh, it's really such a shame how much they messed it up
watching this video after playing the game since launch makes me sad how much from grace this game fell off for a lot of people. not only that but i remember buying this game with my own allowance and was so excited and to see it just be this pile of dumpster doodoo makes me sad. i now switched to tf2 and never looked back ever since the bot crisis got fixed. I hope overwatch manages to fix itself but with these current changes they want to do to tanks I will leave my roses to it's grave and only remember the good times.
This describes my experience too, in some ways. I stopped feeling the desire to play every day about a year before OW1 ended though. I think the lack of interest from the devs and the community being not well because if it somehow ruined the charm back then. I loved the game, currently I have almost 3k hours in the game, most of which are from OW1. OW2 came out and it felt new, kinda, but not really. I stopped playing except a little bit here and there. I decided that I wouldn't play unless I wanted to. After a year of that, I finally feel like playing again, but not really because of the balance. The game feels anxiety inducing. It doesn't seem like it is going to improve. The devs seem misguided in their notion of what they think good balance for the game should be, and honestly, I think its always been that way, even in OW1 days. Either they made the game with one premise for balance and changed it or, they accidentally got it right and had no clue why when they launched OW1. They systematically removed what was good about the game. The devs may go back to 6 v 6, we'll see. If they don't understand why the game is bad right now, they might not do well in the 6 v 6 (better) format either. I just want Marvel Rivals to come out and I am tired of hoping the OW devs will figure it out and being let down for years. They mean well, but they didn't deserve the game they made. Poor custodians in OW1, and poor vision the entire time, they took the best videogame ever made and somehow found a way to ruin it. I love them because I know they love us and the game, but I'm upset with them because they just cannot do right by the game, no matter how good their intentions are. Something is wrong at the core. I miss the old days of looking forward to playing the game at any moment I could and wanting to improve to be my very best.
I absolutely feel you there. The dev team has mainly been the biggest cause for the game's downfall, and I can only watch from the side as I see what they have in store for 6v6 potentially coming back. I wonder how successful they'll be trying to bring back ow's charm.
I was a Winston main In Gold and Plat. The game is literally the same for me, I never got support from my Dva or Zarya in those elos. Nobody played Ana because she was impossible to play on Console back then with lower projectile size and weaker allied aim assist and smaller hitboxes. When Brig was good with Winston people literally didn't know how to play her. The Zen, Lucio Dive was a throw pick in low elo when it was meta. I got hard countered every game, Reaper, Bastion, Hog, Mei, Torb, just every single game if I played well. The awful spam maps are gone and there are way more open dive maps style maps than before even though the majority are still ground based Rush maps. Support immediately felt different though I can see why people might miss the old Support gameplay.
I broke my skill plateau within the last year of Overwatch 1. Hit the technical t500 of the time. The entire time, there was nagging voices within the game chat & my mind telling me I didn't deserve it; didn't earn it. I was a Console Player, & I came late to this game, near the 2 2 2 introduction. After i peaked somewhere around 3.8 - 3.9, something just snapped. I didnt care anymore. I reached my peak. Everyone else i played was miles better, or hell, sometimes even cheating.
That's what made me quit. After you hit your peak, what is there for you? I only touch customs now.
Everyone was starting to quit at the time I got my highest peak. I felt as if I accomplished something amazing, but given the circumstances, it felt as though it was unearned. Hearing players like you peak so high so consistently makes me a bit envious. I wish I had the skill & people around me to push me up the ranked ladder.
I think I was here for the grind. Once that was gone, when I knew I'd have to put my life into this grind, I stopped. I realized it wasn't worth the stress.
You hear so much nonsense coming from this game. "This is META!" "cheaters running galore!!" "Buy this skin!!!" ; it's exhausting.
Now that I'm away from the noise, I feel as though I noticed that it's a bit of a universe in itself. Contained madness. Once you're away from it, you'll realize just how futile much of your struggle was.
No bc that's how I felt back more in ow2 than anything. I reached my peak of gm3 in support and realized i was no match to anyone that was higher than that, and i at points didn't think i deserved my rank either, but i was staying in it very consistently so it was very confusing.
Once you start realizing that it's not worth the stress trying to grind higher than your peak, that's definitely where you start becoming more indifferent and stop caring as much. Once the grindset is gone, it's kinda peaceful :)
I loved to chill in Ow1, basically lived in there. Uninstalled a year ago. Similar reasons.
It might be just a small issue to others but what really killed my enjoyment for the game is the battle pass. I stopped playing competitive years ago even when overwatch 1 was still out due it's toxicity. yet I still had a reason to grind for the loot boxes and the leveling system. but ever since they got rid of that the only thing that could get me to improve and grind was taken away and the only bit of satisfaction I can get through the battle pass is now getting a reset after a little bit of time over and over again. It kinda makes my entire grind and the endless hours I invested in the game ever since overwatch 1's release.. point- and meaningless.. It really killed my spirit and I barely play the game anymore because of it.
That's honestly so fair. Ow1 had a lot of stuff you could grind for other than your rank, and they took basically all of that away to follow the trend of other fps games :( I miss grinding for my border and lootboxes ngl
This is definitely a result of both 5v5 and the balance philosophy of the current team in charge of the game.
There are so many people like us who have been with this game for 8 years, since the beginning. There are no other games that feel even remotely close. Overwatch is such a special game that over time has just gotten more and more watered down. I love the game and the characters so much but it has definitely gotten to the point where it's lost it's identity trying to "fit in" with other games like Valorant. It's been so simplified to the point where the creativity and skill expression feels non-existent. All of the synergy is gone between teammates and it's like it's being made to appeal to people who don't play the game more than people who actually do.
I would rather be in that 3 year period of time where Overwatch had 0 updates at all than the complete disappointment OW2 has been so far. At least then I could enjoy playing tank. I still can't leave this game though, I've found myself recently also becoming the mercy girl stereotype & that's really the only fun I've been able to have recently. Other characters are either too simple or feel bad to play now.
This game needs it's personality back & it needs to stop pandering to people who don't even play the game. It's not even nostalgia at this point, Overwatch 1, 6v6, and all it's features and balance are better than OW2 no contest.
I absolutely agree with you. It felt like the game was trying to become more "mainstream" with other fps games and therefore lost its charm and uniqueness. It felt like it was trying to appeal to newer players rather than the veteran players, which isn't remotely too much of a bad thing, but it left us feeling very neglected. The game absolutely lost its personality bc of that. I'd also much prefer the content drought of ow bc I still had goals I wanted to reach back then 😔
This sounds a lot like my experience.
I was originally an Xbox player who started playing to hide from IRL problems. I met a bunch of friends online and really enjoyed grinding and playing with them as we all learned and a handful of us reaching top 500 (me on tank). I remember those eager days to get home and log on where we would all chat in discord all day waiting for the next bunch of games we would play, we even participated in console tournaments.
Eventually during the content lull a few people left the game and it was just me and my tank duo with an occasional support friend mixed in. I eventually made the switch to PC in the last few seasons of OW1 and peaked around diamond.
Fast forward to OW2 as a former top 500 tank main, I do not enjoy the tank experience. I used to have a 2nd tank to share the 6 CC’s I had coming my way while now I'm alone to take all 5, every loss no matter what I do I get spammed “tank diff” and I occasionally get suspended for throwing despite typically holding a 55% or better win rate.
I just don't enjoy the game anymore, I am expected to do the job of 2 without any help, I get all the blame and most importantly I am no longer able to duo up with my friend where we could control the game place and in comms by having everyone coalesce behind the tanks plans. Now it feels like with how the meta forces team composition and with counterpicking as bad as it is the game has devolved into a 4v4 team Deathmatch with the tanks sitting off to the side in a CC chain for the DPS to charge ultimates on.
I am finding myself playing less and less and I just don't see it ever getting better since they basically took a very unique game and highjacked the franchise to make a shop tailored to the lowest players who will mindlessly spend money on skins and will ditch the game at the drop of a hat for a new fad so an ow1 OG tank main like me can screw off since I'm clearly not wanted or appreciated anymore. It's kind of sad with the history of the game and what this game meant to me helping me navigate my trauma years ago.
Sorry for the long post
No, don't apologize for the long post. I love reading everyone's stories so I appreciate you being open about your experience :) Ow for me definitely was an escape from whatever school stress I was feeling, so I definitely understand escaping IRL for a bit to have some fun.
I absolutely felt you on how ow2 feels like team deathmatch. It's the most accurate description I feel and tanks feel like such an important role, but they carry so much responsibility and burden in a team fight. They're expected to make space and get kills, but also peel for the backline at the same time and also not get absolutely MELTED within a second. It's a hard role for just one person which is why I highly believe the tank role NEEDS the other tank back in a 6v6 setting. We'll see how they handle on bringing 6v6 back :)
@@feenixsarchive thank you for the words of support, curious if I ever ran into you back in the Xbox days, the GM/Top 500 circle wasn't too huge :)
Anyway I hope you stay away and don't get tempted, idk why I keep logging in when I know what awaits me, I guess I just can't fully let go so I run back to the abuse.
True! I wonder if we ever did meet in a game long long ago haha. I hope you break out of the cycle of logging back in tho, the pain and suffering must come to a stop at some point LMAOOO but gl in your games 🫡
You have no idea how much I resonate with your story (but instead of Mercy I mained Lucio) It makes me sad seeing what happening in the game now. I uninstalled like a month ago and I refuse to play even if my friends play. I hope Marvel rivals is good (so far the beta has been great) but if it isn't then I'm fine walking away from these types of games as a whole. I just wish things never turned out this way but nothing we can do about it now.
I'm so glad you could resonate with it! I've heard a lot about Marvel Rivals and it's def been mixed opinions so I'm not sure if I'll try it lol. Even if I don't, there's plenty of other games to enjoy for us out there :)
I started playing overwatch back in 2018 and fell in love with the game and more specifically Lucio. I’ve onetricked Lucio since 2019 with an unhealthy amount of hours into him. The reason I loved him so much was his ability to fall into different playstyles. (and movement XD) I was a “Reddit Lucio” being able to play aggressive and back up our tanks while our other support was able to focus our DPS. I would mostly focus speeding our tanks into and outta combat and booping enemies into them while making my own plays in the back lines.
When OW2 rolled around I was excited to play the little aggressive frog I loved, but I couldn’t play him in the way I enjoyed anymore. Playing “Reddit Lucio” didn’t give good results and ended up feeling like throwing the more I did it. I have found certain ways to force that play style but I can only play the way I enjoy with a full 5 stack. I think it’s because team play isn’t playing as a team anymore. It’s a team that all goes for their own plays.
To me it feels like they removed a huge part of skill expression. The people who knew the little details of their characters were able to use them to the fullest. Like mercy’s Super jump if a mercy knew how to use it chances were you had a good mercy on your team, but now it’s a function everyone can use.
Another thing that’s bothers me is the power creep on tanks but really in general. They have to buff them in drastic ways to make them playable but playable doesn’t make them fun.
I still play from time to time but it only takes a few match’s to completely drain any desire I have for the game.
I just want the fun game that I used to play back man, for now I’ll just move on to playing more Elden Ring.
Thank you for sharing your experience! :) when you said ow2 is like playing with a team going for their own plays, I absolutely think the same. It became more... Individually based rather than team based in a sense. And omg yes when they made all the characters more "playable" for the new players, it kinda just ruined it for me too.
Enjoy the elden ring experience tho 😌 I need to get into the game itself more too!
@@feenixsarchive Thanks! Hopefully you enjoy Elden ring! It’s an absolutely beautiful and fun game, a bit difficult but an amazing experience :D
@@LoneBee411 Oh yeah, definitely a lot to learn and get the hang of, but I'll do my best! :D
Yeah honestly I miss my tank duo we did so well together and we had fun now we both barely play it sucks these devs need to open their eyes this game won’t last without change and new stuff or bringing back old stuff that people loved
I'm the kind of player that gets the most out of a game when I play with my friends so when I reinstalled ow for my friends I thought it would make the game feel better. It definitely beats playing alone but I still feel so unmoved whether we win or lose and I too realized that even my friends couldn't magically fix the game for me. I've experienced this same thing with league of legends and I've just concluded that I must have "fallen out of love" with these games. There's something magical about getting into a game and wanting to learn everything about it but these online multiplayers inevitably change for better or worse. Now I kinda just play occasionally when someone asks me to hop on so we can have something that everyone can play and I think that's as good as it gets. Just a game to have in the background.
Ugh, I totally get your experience all too well. It always sucks when a multiplayer game "falls off," and not even friends can help bring it back up. I hope there's other games you can find with your friends to have fun and play with :D
I started playing and still play to this day because of one reason, Reaper. The game IS worse than before, but I still have my Reaper. I don't want to play overwatch, I want to play Reaper and Reaper only (for the most part).
Here's my story: I played TF2 for years, tried everything, learned everything, mained everone, burned out. Thats where I learned I love healing more than anything. I never really liked OW a lot since they clearly copied quite a few things from tf2 but mercy was similar to medic and i was burned out after all so since second half of 2017 when I started I played her 90% of the time and people praised me constantly. I was always a competetive person and watched guides and trained all I could. It gave me huge advantage in tf2 but in OW barely anything because there is too much teamwork required while in tf2 you could win by yourself. I was gold for like the first 2 years. It never helped that the game hides as much info as it can and you never really know whats wrong or what does how much dmg for example so your ego covers all the holes in knowledge. After they nerfed shields I think even back in Ow 1 i became support only player, being a tank meant being a pinata and I didnt like it anymore. Playing dps was never my thing. I got from low plat where I was most of my time in OW 1 to plat 1 when first game ended. I concluded that diamond must be my top rank I could get to. At this point I hated the game for not getting me what I want for years of hard work and all the little bullshit like 50/50 matchmaking, bad teammates, toxic teammates, giving up early for no reason tammates, smurfs, hitboxes of certain heores etc. but I also started to hate mercy and decided I will never again play someone so dependant on the team since you could never count on anyone. I was never a full one trick but when I played supports with aim requirement my hand got so stiff I could barely move my mouse around. In tf2 you could line up your crosshair to the enemy using wasd and thats how I got used to aiming. In OW its almost impossible. So i bounced to heroes not requiring aim like moira. Eventually I got bored and otp brig, she is an amazing hero and she got me to low diamond. Being there required me to give my 100% every game and at this point there was something inside of me preventing me from giving more than 80%. Playing felt like a full time job. Exhausting instead of relaxing. Currently Kiriko is op, sombra one shots you, genji one shots you, winston swoops in for free kill, snipers exist so you have to play peekaboo the whole match, moira kills everyone, enemy team is either too strong or too weak, playing support is no longer fun and feels like survival-horror. I no longer play comp. There is no point. At some point i understood i got into the game to heal and help the team, not to fight for meaningless rank in unfair full of bullshit circus of a game. But I cant quit, I got nothing to fall back to. I healed in Bf4, paladins, tf2, everywhere where there are classes. So i carelessly keep playing OW. Last time I really had fun in this game was in 2018. Nowadays only when I get drunk i enjoy it. Why would I try hard and give it my all as ana for example when the enemy could pick sombra and efortlessly destroy me? Why try when moira just dives in and gets three picks and leaves with no fear? Why think about startegy when rein just mindlessly charges into entire team, gets two kills and just backs out? Why try my hardest fighting for survival while trying to heal when at the end of a match i see that some no skill character like moira or weaver has top heals AND dmg just by existing? These days I play mostly aim based supports because i love healing and I love when things are hard to do well, plus I cant give up, thats in my nature. But this game is a joke. I hate it. I die inside when I launch it. And I dont care anymore. Cant play supports like mercy, weaver, moira or even brig since i get bored with them, everything is no challenge. But when you pick the other ones its like: bro, can I play without being hunted every second I exist?! Sometimes when I know genji is coming i just let him kill me because i am so tired of it. Fortunately it takes only a dash and bullshit right click to the head, milion dmg in a split second. Like I even stand a chance. I win quite often but thats not the point. Its SO FUCKING EXHAUSTING. And there is only one right way to play every hero, to a person like me who likes to get creative and do everything in life my own way that sucks and also maining anyone just means being bored to death. And everything is the same every match. Nothing unique ever takes place. People say the same, games play out the same, people react the same way to everything, every new map is bad. OW is hands down the worst game I ever played. It looks nice and thats the only good thing I could say about it. When I meet a new excited player I think: they have no idea...