How To - Hydro Mod The Oil-Filled Watches #1
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
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For those wondering why you might do this, the Hydraulic Press channel stuck an oil filled 200m rated watch in the test chamber and took it to the equivalent of 3,000m and it survived. Most 200m rated watches can go deeper out the box, but only to around 600m before the glass cracks or the case back collapses under the pressure. An oil filled watch with an electromechanical movement will suffer a severe reduction of battery life, so an all digital model or solar powered movement might be the best way to go. A solar digital watch would probably be the most suited for this type of modification. Lacking any bubbles inside the case, the watch will suffer severe internal pressure changes with heating and cooling. This may cause seals to fail prematurely as fluids are essentially incompressible and that excess pressure has to be relieved somehow. An interesting idea that can greatly increase the depth rating of a watch but probably not something that is suitable for an everyday beater.
Nobody remotely thinking about diving to 3000m is thinking about buying this watch bro 😂
That's not the point
@@saadmaanshahrier2 Nobody diving to 200m is thinking about buying this watch either 🤣
And here we go..... Love the HPC!
Why not put a little foam block somewhere inside who's only purpose is to get compressed/decompressed?
After watching this, I went to eBay and bought an MRW200H and Microlubrol. I don't even really care if there's any actual improvement to the watch that I'll ever use, it's just fun to tinker and learn new skills. Cheers mate, should be a hoot.
How was the watch now? :v
What skills did you learn?
ua-cam.com/video/6wPPUdLN6WM/v-deo.html - the MRW-200H, an Unexpected Favourite.
Does the watch still works ?
@@valmonta3647 Still ticking away.
Good timing, I've just bought an MRW-200H and want to give this a go. Thanks!
Adding some uv reactive or glow in the dark dye to the oil could be cool
I’d use a deeper container so the dial and case back can be rotated to get rid of bubbles. That’s use more oil of course.
This is by far the best and most informative video for oil filled watch mod. Excellent job.
Hi Ronnie, thanks.
some times i did this procedure, i prefer to have more oil and a bigger container, where you can just move the watch pieces inside the oil in some directions, to send the bubbles out of the watch easier. Anyway, very good video! Thanks!
Super idea, i bought the SDW Hypertec Shark with oil filling.
Glad to find you again - I’m still looking for a small bottle of Fluorinert 76 I think - but cheapest is about £50 for 500ml (way too much).
As before, great vids BTW
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I have done this on two watches. Once on a quartz Casio Marlin and once on a Casio G-Shock ani-dig watch. Only do this mod on a fully digital watch. Even the thinnest silicon oil will add resistance enough to drain the battery on an analog quartz watch. On both of mine, with new batteries, they died in 6 weeks. After a thorough cleaning and fresh batteries, they worked fine. A full LCD would be great.
Really cool, I have a vacuum pump and a small chamber. I'm going to try this with vacuum
Watches look great man, I was reading that you can put the MRW200H dial/movement into the MDV106 body, maybe try that next so you get the look of the 200 in the Duro body, might be worth a video :D
I know ill never do this to any of my watches but this was very informational and would be a great video for anyone actually wanting to do it.
The MDV-106 doesn't "pop" because it's dial has very fine starburst etching that reflects light at all angles. It's really a cool watch for the price. Great job, bro. I'm confident to do my watches like that.
It might be the sun burst effect on the dial of that duro that makes it a little underwhelming, since it catches light differently under the different refractive index of the oil.
Excellent video btw! Appreciate it
Thank you, Darak for this video. I think it's very helpful, and (as far as I know now), you do it quite properly.
I already moded a Casio F-91 years ago, filling it with Olive Oil !. At the moment, still it's working quite fine. Visibility doesn't change as much as with analogics, but oil improves dramatically the submergibility of the watch. This just "water-resistant" Casio has gone diving with me down to 40 meters more than five times. And many more, a bit shallower.
But now, I and a group of friends want to hydrolyze some analogic watches. First I decided to start with the MRW-200 that you fill here, because (as you say) the effect looks better than on the MDV-106. But after thinking about it, I'd rather prefer a watch like the Duro, with a screwed crown (even though a screwed-down case back is trickier to close than a case back with screws). I'm more confident about avoiding future oil leaks with a screed crown.
Let's talk about the procedure.
I like very much the box you used. I think it's the perfect size, and I hope to find something similar. I like also the way yo refill the leaking oil with the syringe. I guess that I will manage to close the screwed down back case properly (without leaving bubbles), and that I will set in position the crown, because I see that you close the case, before closing the crown.
Is this to avoid excess pressure inside the watch, while you are closing the back, and let the oil leak through the crown's hole, in case of necessity?
And finally, my biggest doubt: I don't see that you leave any bubble inside. The dial looks gorgeous in that way. But, aren't you afraid that with warmer temperatures, the oil expands inside the watch, and can cause problems (or leakings)?.
In other oil modding I've seen that they leave bubbles (bigger or smaller), and (for instance) Sinn has patented a special piston for dealing with this issue. Tell me what you think about it. Maybe this oil doesn't expant¡d too much with the temperature changes.
Finally, as I've seen in some other vídeos, I think that you are right with the density ot the oil. 50 cst seems t have the right amount. But I wonder why they don't use even less dense oils. If they keep the same conditions about conductivity, I don't see any problems to use them, and the hands would find less resistance in moving.
Anyway, thank you for this vídeo, And I hope to read your answers.
Hi Boga92, thank you for your long and informative common, but you really should watch this video first, and we can discuss more, this is my follow-up video of the Hydro mod, ua-cam.com/video/UpYuMbbw4bk/v-deo.html
@@darakwatches467 I already saw the other video. But I find impossible fitting the styrofoam balls in place while closing the case back. Do you think it's possible to fill the case with silicone oil through the crown hole? Anyway. I think you didn't leave any bubble inside these two watches. How are they behaving? Any leak?
For the thermal expansion, perhaps the o-rings of the buttons provide enough flexibility. Would be interesting to calculate the change in size of the oil.
really cool 👍 ..well done !
Interesting. Looks great.
Super injoy coz tomorrow i buying a casio duro ang i going like your doing hahahahha thanks,, now i know
For added points do this on a glass table so you can see underneath ;)
If you add more oil to a container so you can assemble the whole thing fully submerged you can never get a bubble of air. The results where surprising on the first watch! Really cool, wonder how the durability is affected by this :)
My thoughts too, that’s what I plan on doing
this is just amazing
Really interesting stuff.
Nice vid and it works great BUT it eats batteries. I've done a few of these and the battery has lasted as little as a year. I'm guessing because the motor is using a lot more torque.
solar movement is the answer
Great video!
Hi Frank, thanks.
Im glad you are back! You are one of the most unique channels on UA-cam.
Hi Rafe, thanks, and welcome back.
Found YA! Nice recovery bro
Hi Brandon, thanks.
Awesome!!!
Nice job 👍
😛 ¡Saludos!. ¡Excelente video!.
I have a Casio MRW 200H watch, exactly the same as the one in this review. the watch is very powerful
Noway. Exactly the same? So you are saying you have a copy of a global mass produced watch? Unbelievable.
I´m not an expert either, yet i think you need a convex lens in order to get the full effect like the watch on this video. Also, looking for viscosity and interaction with materials might be the kind of oil your looking for. Secondly, experimenting with the refraction index of the oil, in relationship with the kind and thickness of glass you´re using might create a more desirable outcome
Very interesting, I would imagine doing so would make the watch more water proof in a way, right? Also won’t the oil cause friction and delay the whole watch by a bit over time? Also what happens when you change the battery? I’ll you need to have extra oil at hand to fill to avoid bubbles during battery changes, also would this work with a mechanical watch????
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Hi L, thanks.
Replacing the battery will be messy
This is great for Quartz, not Digital
You could close that container and turn it sideways so that the air can go out through the crown. Maybe it would take a couple minutes though
Can one do this to a solar-powered watch? I ask because I don't think I'd like to do a do-over every time I need to replace the battery. If not, I'd recommend replacing the battery with a new one before doing the mod to make it last longer before the next reapplication of oil. Nice video and thanks! Thumbs up!
due to oil viscosity, how accurate the time will be? Kindly validate plssss
im guessing it will be delayed few minutes per day due to added resistance of the movement?
I wonder if it work well in my Bulova curv. I’ve been thinking about doing it as I think it would really make it pop.
It’s kinda relaxing watching this
Does the watch tick slower when oil inside? it seems as if the seconds hand is a bit more "lazy". Don't know whether this affects the timekeeping...
Don’t you need a high torque movement to compensate for the fluid density and avoid the gearing and step motor from wearing out prematurely? Also, when you adjust the time, does it leak?
Great video, thanks for showing us how you did it. Did you oil fill the digital watch too? If so, can you press the buttons when submerged under water? Does the light still work?
Can we do the automatic watch like this,
I wonder if its effect the tourbillion and make accuracy change?
Great video! Thanks for making it.
very nice
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Hello Darak, I was wondering can I use this silicone oil as a refill for my lubricating foam for watches? the ones inside the foam were liquid clear type silicone not the typical white ones.
I wonder how the analogue models respond to the medium viscosity increase after oil filling. Do they become less accurate or does the battery life decrease after such a mod?
I was wondering the same
Does oil leak from the buttons or the crown when you pull it out to adjust the time?
That wouldn't be a very water resistant watch if that was the case..
@@20cent so even when you pull out the crown the oil stays in the watch? Oh I'm surprised that's really cool.
That looks great!! Does it effect the battery life or accuracy ?
Battery life yes accuracy no is what I've heard
@@murcielago1029 Does it effect battery life even in a digital watch?
@@greggreg2458 yes… there arent batteries in mechanical watches lol
@@murcielago1029 quartz watches do exist.
@@MFRiley I suppose I mean "automatic", honestly I thought "automatic" and "mechanical" meant the same thing. My comment was meant to highlight that every digital watch has a battery. All digital watches (such as quartz) are going to have a battery and the battery life is affected by this technique. How fast it kills the battery, I'm not sure.
Did you change your channel's name? Glad to see such great contents 😊😊
Hi Lowe, no, I open a new channel, the old one is gone forever.
@@darakwatches467 Sad to know that. Sorry for your loss. Hope you can grow this new channel fast. Keep upload great contents 🌈🌈.
Quick question: what if you have to change the date or hour? Does it become a mess?
just wondering if this mod would improve legibility of a white dial/golden hands combo? thank you
So what happens now when you pull out the crown to adjust the time? Wouldn't the oil leak out? And you have to do this again when it is time to replace the battery?
sorry for late reply but i think some watches have some gaskets inside even if you unscrew the crown it is still water resistant
Really good question, because oil is uncompressible. If you pull or push any button it should leak
I imagine pulling the crown out would create negative pressure that would suck a little air bubble in past the O-rings, then pushing the crown back in would either compress that bubble or push oil out.
it's waterproof even with the crownd pulled
I wonder about power usage increase due to higher resistance of oil vs air ... and how you will change battery?
great stuff but changing battery will be a pain, at least it is not going to be that often
can it cause leaks in the watch in the long run?
So, a watch with a screw down crown doesn't leak oil when you un-screw it it?
I wonder how much the weight changes. Thank you for the informative video.
Hey Derek. Great content thanks for sharing. I'd like to mod my GW5600J but not sure if it's possible.
Or if doing the mod will have a negative effect on the solar functions of the watch
Ok looks great but how do you adjust the time
Does oil leak out if i am adjusting the time by pulling the crown out?
Would this be suitable for a Marathon GPQ?
What happens when you loosen and pull out the crown to adjust the time. Does oil seep out?
Can a Hydro Mod work on a Casio DBC 150 and DBX 112 for Water Resistant
How does this not mess up the dial printing and hands lume?
Does it affect the accuracy of the watch??
Oil works better in digital watches. The oil forces the movement and the battery ends quickly.
I got question. If you hydromod a date watch, would it mess up the liquid if I were to adjust the date?
Hey mate
Any updates on the watches? Did they leak?
What happens every time the clocks go backwards or forwards? Or even date detting. The crown coming out will introduce air won't it?
And what happen if you open a bottle keeping it horizontal, the cap will introduce air won’t it? ;)
What about changing the battery? That seems like that would be a problem.
how would you set the watch thou. wouldnt the oil flow out if you hold it wrong?
In theory, if you remove the seconds hand, the battery life would improve.
What?
Surely this affects time keeping? Might b low friction but it’s more friction than air?
Since those watches are electronic, time keeping element doesn’t rely on moving parts and isn’t affected by friction.
Oil friction affects only moving parts that show time. If they are capable of doing their move within 1 second intervals, it should work with no problem.
Which soap and material did you use to wash the excess oil
how does this watch continue to work? does the oil create resistance in mechanism?
I sell silicone fluids and might try this with something with a lower viscosity. I’ve got 0.65, 1.5, 5 that might work better
It is make battery drain faster ?
Will oil create a drag on gear train.? & Stepper motor !
Can the same technique be used for a rangeman 9400?
Hi Darak. Are you back?
Are there any websites that sell diy watches? You buy what you want and you put them together to become a watch of your own design?
ok, but what happen when you extract the crown for adjust the time? the oil escape?
I was wondering this myself.
Think you should adjust the time before putting everything in
@@dyslexicbien so I think should be better a no-date watch ?
with Mine?..I made a "Rolex Submariner" style watch into a Oil filled to test it, it has a rubber O-Ring on the Crown shaft though not just a metal on metal seal... it seems to hold everything back OK when I change the time/date, I could imagine some air working its way into the case eventually with multiple changes...but so far?..it's held up ok!.
@@daalvares if you angle the watch correctly when changing Date/Time (crown pointing UP/High) then You should be OK for a FEW changes, eventually though?.. air would work its way into the case with Multiple changes, but that's a quick painless fix.. 10 mins every 6 months?.. MAX!
Newbie here asking a question, will the watch still keep time correctly due to the increased resistance of the oil against the seconds hand?
You made them super water resistant
You should also install a domed crystal for the full effect. What happens if you pull the crown? Will it leuk? Thanx for this vid!
It definitely will.
I wonder if the movement of the Seconds Hand and the mechanical gears, while they move through the oil, would create enough drag to make it use up more battery power, and shorten the battery life?
I learned from other videos that the electric current draw of oil-filled mod is 3-4 times more than the original non-filled watch. This is due to the drag that the oil makes on the rotating parts, demanding more power from the quartz drive. So expect your batteries to run down faster, meaning, if the original watch will run for three years before it needs battery change, the oil-filled one will last only one year or less.
Will the oil run out if you try to set the time?
will it not damage the mocement?
Now all you have to do is figure out how to hydromod your lungs and human cellular structure to withstand the increased hydrostatic pressure.
I have a Question, dose the oil escape when resetting the Time ???😊
Can u show us to test the lume ?
filling a watch with oil is more than a little bit crazy
Most dials like pressure gauges and quality compasses are filled with oil.
Wouldn't the electronics components fail if submerged in oil? And if the crown is pulled out to adjust date, the oil will flow out?
Nope
Will this work for automatic movements?
no way
This can't be done on mechanical watches, can it? Also, I guess, changing the battery becomes more involved.
I reckon we have great results in both cases. The digital did not. The thing with the other two is that one of them has numbers to pop which the metal one has not.
How do you reverse this in case that it does not work out well? I guess a lot of rubbing alcohol and work?