Could Homo Erectus survive in the mesozoic?

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  • Опубліковано 23 жов 2023
  • #cretaceous #dinosaur #animals #jurassic #triassic #humanity #anthropology #animals #paleontology
    Homo Erectus was an incredibly important member of our genus, setting many records for Hominins, and making many new developments, Homo Erectus was a more primitive version of us, but could it survive in the mesozoic?
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    Thank you to Rudolph Hima, Lucas Atwell, and julio lacerda for much of the art in this video
    Music: 'Starlight' by SergePavkinMusic

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  • @edwinperla4079
    @edwinperla4079 8 місяців тому +556

    dinosur

  • @Just_a_Tool
    @Just_a_Tool 8 місяців тому +329

    In the Cretacous they have a chance to thrive. Therapods stealing their kills may be scary, but all animals run from fire. Fire may become an even more integral tool to them.

    • @pontusleblanc1481
      @pontusleblanc1481 8 місяців тому +58

      Some birds like whistling kites actively collect burning branches and spread fire for their own benefit.

    • @prasetyodwikuncorojati2434
      @prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 7 місяців тому

      @@pontusleblanc1481 even it was possible that the homo erectus themselves that ran from fire, because there are some dinosaurs that already using fire and even more efficient than them despite cannot make directly. They will view it as fire demon beast

    • @megalomaniachub3856
      @megalomaniachub3856 7 місяців тому +3

      @@pontusleblanc1481 ok

    • @playernotfound9489
      @playernotfound9489 7 місяців тому

      rememeber birds are dinosaurs... right?@@megalomaniachub3856

    • @doragonzx
      @doragonzx 3 місяці тому +4

      the only problem is that if Behaviors from today can be applied to dinosaurs, they may start to use fire themself, like hawks in Australia

  • @tozarkt9805
    @tozarkt9805 8 місяців тому +225

    One thing that I think needs to be factored in is competition and adaptability. Homo erectus hunted megafauna that would be medium sized in the Mesozoic, which would put them at odds with many of the medium-sized carnivorous theropods at the time, not to mention maybe falling under the menu of these creatures. In the Cretaceous this would be a big problem, as towards the latter part of the period that niche was taken up by juvenile tyrannosaurs, which was such as successful strategy that they outcompeted most of the medium sized theropods. They were more intelligent than most theropods, had excellent sight and smell and could’ve hunted in groups. All these attributes would’ve made them tough competitors for Homo erectus which could’ve potentially made them more suited for earlier periods in the Mesozoic.
    And second is adaptability. Homo erectus were extremely versatile, able to live in any environment that wasn’t ice caps or the harshest deserts and lived through many periods of climate change. They even potentially rafted over by boat to islands like Flores. Their diet could go from consuming nothing but fruit, nuts and tubers to mainly fish or meat. Therefore if they were in a time where flowering plants that made the bulk of their diet had yet to evolve, they may turn to hunting or fishing more regularly, supplementing this with the occasional pine nuts, horsetails or ferns. They could use this plasticity to negate competition if the ecosystem necessitated it, like avoiding dromeosaurs, abelisaurs, megaraptors and tyrannosaurs by adopting a diet of plants and tubers with the occasional small mammal or reptile thrown into the mix.

    • @romeobelisario3190
      @romeobelisario3190 8 місяців тому +23

      Or, we get the unlikely scenario where Homo Erectus learns to tame and befriend juvenile Tyrannosaurs.

    • @Theanimateddevice358
      @Theanimateddevice358 8 місяців тому +16

      I can’t read all that

    • @_Radiator_
      @_Radiator_ 8 місяців тому +22

      ​@@Theanimateddevice358come on little jimmy, you aren't gonna finish the 1st grade book about dolphins!!!

    • @Theanimateddevice358
      @Theanimateddevice358 8 місяців тому +12

      @@_Radiator_ ok fineeeeee I’ll tryyy

    • @kris6038
      @kris6038 8 місяців тому +11

      Interestingly, there aren't many medium-sized carnivores. That niche was largely filled by adolescent large theropods.
      So Homo erectus had natural competition, but nothing nearly as specifically adapted.

  • @JeffNeelzebub
    @JeffNeelzebub 8 місяців тому +248

    As far as the “low oxygen environments”, there are already humans adapted to such environments, such as in the Himalayas and Andes, and presumably ancient Hominids as well. Regarding hunting, erectus possibly scavenged as much or more than they hunted, finding carcasses and removing the bones, and carrying these back to their shelters. Once at their shelter, they would cook the bones or crack them open with their aschulean stone hand axes to extract the marrow. I think they would survive any of these environments perfectly fine.

    • @znail4675
      @znail4675 8 місяців тому +31

      Humans will naturally adapt to lower oxygen levels, so that shouldn't be an issue.

    • @professionalretard4293
      @professionalretard4293 8 місяців тому +21

      @@znail4675 The issue is surving up until the adaptations happen

    • @mr.booboo1
      @mr.booboo1 8 місяців тому +10

      effective o2% of atmosphere
      triassic: high of ~18%
      jurassic: low of ~11% (equivalent to being at mt.everest's camp)
      cretaceous: range of 12%~19%
      highest parts of tibet in the holocene: 16%~18%
      erectus would have a short existence before being choked out by the middle of the triassic, or uterlly annihilated by the tr-j. they would fair a lot better halfway through the cretaceous and beyond

    • @mr.booboo1
      @mr.booboo1 8 місяців тому +10

      however our ancestors and us prove to be hardy, resilient creatures and im sure we would be very dissimilar to how we are today if we lived in scavenging societies-subsisting on yolk and marrow, cooked by underground, if the air permits it, fire

    • @znail4675
      @znail4675 8 місяців тому +8

      @@mr.booboo1 Those numbers are less then the current 21%, but none are less then half and people can manage fine with only 50% oxygen intake and the body will adapt to that limitation with a richer blood etc. There will of course be some reduction of peek performance, but it's not like people will keel over unable to breath. Other animals would also be affected in the same way, so the playing field would be even.

  • @christosvoskresye
    @christosvoskresye 8 місяців тому +179

    It's before the Mesozoic, but the Carboniferous would be an interesting period for this question. Oxygen levels were high, but neither plants nor animals would be familiar.

    • @hankskorpio5857
      @hankskorpio5857 8 місяців тому

      Theres no fruit or nuts... we'd have to become obligate carnivores that hunt primarily at night. Before the mass extinction we'd evolve into scarey demonic looking nocturnal pack hunters. Theres basically no direct evidence for nocturnal dinosaurs. Even in birds its pretty much only two groups we know of Owls and Nightjars.
      We may have some competition but our vastly superior night vision paired with logic and tools would make us extremely efficient hunters and egg raiders.

    • @arcosprey4811
      @arcosprey4811 8 місяців тому +15

      There would be no where enough prey in the carboniferous to sustain any modern carnivore past a rat.

    • @Kokorocodon
      @Kokorocodon 8 місяців тому +7

      @@arcosprey4811 Are you high or what?

    • @arcosprey4811
      @arcosprey4811 8 місяців тому +15

      @@hankskorpio5857 in the carboniferous there weren’t any amniotes bigger than a lizard, that’s what I’m talking about.

    • @arcosprey4811
      @arcosprey4811 8 місяців тому +6

      @@hankskorpio5857 I mean that should be obvious considering the comment is literally only about the carboniferous but alright.

  • @pontusleblanc1481
    @pontusleblanc1481 8 місяців тому +36

    I think a big factor in their chance of success is how large population they get to start with. Regardless of when and where they go back to they would probably take a hit to numbers before they adapt and learn how to survive in the new environment. A larger population would be more likely to make it.

  • @ethandoingstuff1433
    @ethandoingstuff1433 8 місяців тому +48

    I know there are lots of egg stealing dinosaurs, but thats because it was such a great food source. I think Homo erectus could’ve competed in that niche fairly well, especially by using fire to burn areas with eggs, then going in and taking them to a safe cave that (hopefully) requires thumbs to climb into

    • @Falco_Alopex
      @Falco_Alopex 8 місяців тому +3

      This is a good point. But being caught practically means certain death as they probably wouldn’t be faster then the creatures designed to do that.

    • @callusklaus2413
      @callusklaus2413 8 місяців тому +5

      Supremely underrated comment. I find this pretty convincing. Contending with the medium to large carnivores seems like a pretty nasty competition I don't feel confident in our ancestors winning, but using fire to clear entire fields of nests is something small dinosaurs and early varranids competing in the same niche would struggle to out compete.

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 Місяць тому

      @@callusklaus2413 I think our ancestors would eventually work their way up to hunting down big dinosaurs like T-Rex.
      But yes, I believe they would start out as egg stealers that use fire to get close to nests and rob them.
      I also think they would hunt smaller Dinos using the tried and true “run until it tires strategy”.
      Then they would use fire to keep predators away at night.

  • @frigolitfen
    @frigolitfen 8 місяців тому +89

    This is a really fun concept with well made videos. I wouldn’t mind them being even longer. Hope your channel does well. All the best!

    • @Sedimented.Studios
      @Sedimented.Studios  8 місяців тому +9

      thank you!

    • @briancolwill3071
      @briancolwill3071 8 місяців тому +3

      Ditto

    • @Firestar-TV
      @Firestar-TV 8 місяців тому +3

      🤔 could Velociraptors survive in the permian Period?

    • @krlllx
      @krlllx 8 місяців тому

      It’s made by chatgpt

    • @krrimzen7933
      @krrimzen7933 6 місяців тому +1

      their videos feel very AI generated ngl, also, many of the "facts" are blatantly false.

  • @extraordinarytv5451
    @extraordinarytv5451 8 місяців тому +38

    I think we forget that one thing early humans had against large animals where javelins, atlatls, and poison. I don't think Homo Erectus had these so they wouldn't thrive in the same way stone age humans with these would, but later on they would have fire I believe and they could definitely thrive with good usage of fire.

    • @laflux
      @laflux 8 місяців тому +12

      Depends. Some people don't differentiate Homo Heidelbergensis and Homo Ergaster/Erectus and see them as the same species. In that case Erectus at least later on had projectile spears to take down prey

    • @-._A2._-
      @-._A2._- 8 місяців тому +11

      Homo Erectus probably use javelins and spears made from sharpen wood, but wood sucks at preserving so it rots away. It wouldn't be too unreasonable to assume a species that can make stone tools can also make spears out of sticks. But who knows, hopefully one day we can find this out

  • @nightfuryman1209
    @nightfuryman1209 8 місяців тому +12

    Alternate earth 66 million years ago
    Homo Erectus: man life is hard but hey at least nothing bad will happen
    KPG Asteroid: are you sure about that!

  • @redlighter516
    @redlighter516 8 місяців тому +45

    I would say humans and their relatives can survive in any environment reasonably imaginable due to our sheer intelligence and capability

    • @pokemonfanmario7694
      @pokemonfanmario7694 6 місяців тому +8

      As long as they have food, water, and oxygen, humans would survive anywhere regardless of how utterly hostile it is.

    • @redlighter516
      @redlighter516 6 місяців тому +4

      @@pokemonfanmario7694fuck yeah humanity first brother

    • @Kaiserboo1871
      @Kaiserboo1871 Місяць тому +1

      @@pokemonfanmario7694 That’s what I’ve always said.
      If humans existed in the Cretaceous period, you better believe our ancestors would be going out with clothes made of T-Rex skin.

  • @kilianteni7884
    @kilianteni7884 8 місяців тому +595

    Survive yes thrive no

    • @elmochomo8218
      @elmochomo8218 8 місяців тому +51

      Survive huge maybe thrive hell no

    • @filipbitala2624
      @filipbitala2624 8 місяців тому +134

      @@elmochomo8218you are seriously underestimating what ancient and pre-ancient humans were capable of

    • @a.r.h9919
      @a.r.h9919 8 місяців тому

      I don't think you understand how much of a game changer hominids at the level of erectus forward really are on an ecosystem

    • @1kgdepapas618
      @1kgdepapas618 8 місяців тому +61

      survive yes, thrive maybe

    • @Southpaw88
      @Southpaw88 8 місяців тому +44

      ​@@filipbitala2624yeah against other mammals not gigantic alien looking reptiles with sharp claws and strong jaws

  • @alienlife7754
    @alienlife7754 8 місяців тому +11

    While Homo Erectus may have been at a disadvantage their superior intelligence would still be a factor. Even that far back in our lineage our ancestors still out thought any other animals on the planet. I don’t think their major threat would come from the mega carnivores like T-Rex which could be easily outsmarted. The real threat would be smaller carnivores Raptors and such. That would be quite the competition. Man against Raptor in a grudge match. Lol.

  • @simonpetrikov3992
    @simonpetrikov3992 8 місяців тому +7

    Moral of the story: The Cretaceous period was the best period in the Mesozoic to be alive for a lot organisms

  • @Uncemanful
    @Uncemanful 8 місяців тому +28

    The triassic o2 levels would rise, the low was only really in the early triassic post great dying. By the end it looks like oxygen washigh again. Overall great video!!

    • @davepowder4020
      @davepowder4020 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes, for several million years after the start of the Triassic, the O2 level was at about 12%, which would have been like trying to live at 17,000 feet. Doable, but a struggle. However, O2 levels rose enough to allow for massive dinosaurs later.

    • @necrogenisis
      @necrogenisis 8 місяців тому +1

      @@davepowder4020 Dinosaurs achieved massive size independently of the O2 levels. Different breathing mechanism, superior to mammals'.

    • @goldendoomslayer6301
      @goldendoomslayer6301 8 місяців тому

      ​@@necrogenisisgotta love that avian cirulatory and respiration puts our mammalian ones to shame.

  • @GhostSlay3r
    @GhostSlay3r 7 місяців тому +5

    The thing people often forget is that these periods we're talking about last hundreds of thousands of years. That is a really, really long time.
    Our/our cusin species would adapt much more quickly than any competition. And we would also strategize. Like the egg hunting. Most egg hunting dinosaurs would go for a small amount of eggs from one species and another. We would probably target specific dinosaur species eggs to cull they're numbers. We would use specific intimidation tactics that would work for the dinosaurs guarding the eggs too.
    So i think slowly the larger dinosaur species would get extinct.

    • @denistyrant
      @denistyrant 29 днів тому

      That’s very unlikely, especially since Megafauna extinction during the end of the Ice Age was probably not done by us, even if it was done by us, it likely wasn’t that much as one might think. Especially since climate change likely played the major role.
      Heck I severely doubt any dinosaur species is going extinct, if the Pleistocene megafauna could coexist with humans for thousands of years, what’s stopping the dinosaurs? They’re likely far faster at breeding, especially compared to some of the largest Megafaunas in the Cenozoic. For example, sauropods and elephants, sauropods can lay hundreds of eggs, while elephants really only give birth to one calf.
      Not to mention gestation period for them would’ve been longer as well, something of which the dinosaurs likely didn’t suffer from and one of the reasons why they could’ve gotten so large. While intimidation could work, this also isn’t even taking to account it has to be done right and not to mention humans today still have trouble hunting Megafauna (Unless you have a very powerful gun), and we’re far better at hunting Megafaunas compared to Homo erectus

  • @GODKING-6954
    @GODKING-6954 8 місяців тому +32

    I think mankind would struggle hard. I think it would take longer to leave the “stone” and “copper/Bronze Ages”. I do think humanity would pull through. Mostly by setting fires and starving bigger predators by being competitors and eating their resources. It’s not just predators that they have to face. Large herbivores can and do destroy any farm that people make. You’ed have to either dig lots of holes or a moat type thing to prevent your crops from being eaten.

    • @pyrrhusofepirus8491
      @pyrrhusofepirus8491 8 місяців тому +12

      Owing to the excess of large animals, like sauropods, stegosaurs, ceratopsids and larger theropods like tyrannosaurs and allosaurs, I could see humanity largely being sparse dots here and there but also being organised into rather large and tight knit groups, occupying advantageous spots where they’d built bastions. You wouldn’t see much in the ways of lone wolves in this world.
      Arguably we could see the evolution of urban civilisation faster then we did in our world, owing to the necessity of needing to build those kinds of societies. Trade would only be conducted in very well trod and known to be safe paths. I’m wondering if we’d have beasts of burden in this kind of world, what kind of cattle would we have?

    • @Matt-jc2ml
      @Matt-jc2ml 8 місяців тому +3

      Doesn't matter if they would've taken longer to get out if the stone or bronze age, technology would be much further ahead if they lived in this era due to it being milllions of years before humans existed. Big head start

    • @1lham_edits
      @1lham_edits 8 місяців тому

      @@Matt-jc2ml until the little pebble comes to destroy them.

    • @babaook-95
      @babaook-95 2 місяці тому

      @@1lham_edits By then, with millions of years of technological growth, they would've either left the planet or gotten the technology to divert it

    • @1lham_edits
      @1lham_edits 2 місяці тому

      @@babaook-95 maybe.

  • @kmerj7423
    @kmerj7423 8 місяців тому +14

    Your channel is very nice. I like videos that cover the extinct past and these types of ‘what if’ videos are very uncommon. I believe you made this video very well, I hope you continue to do well with your channel :)

  • @BelaaVGC
    @BelaaVGC 8 місяців тому +10

    thank you for your content, i absorb them for last couple days and was suprised today seeing you have not that many subs.
    i hope you get lucky soon and the content can go viral at some point, keep up the good work

    • @Sedimented.Studios
      @Sedimented.Studios  8 місяців тому +1

      thank you, i've started growing a lot faster recently so hopefully that keeps up

    • @m.e.3358
      @m.e.3358 29 днів тому

      Is it possible that you are an ADHD patient? Because I'm falling right into the same "rabbit hole" as you are because I wanna know what humans are capable of

  • @jannovos716
    @jannovos716 8 місяців тому +9

    Fun idea. Well thought out video.

  • @crisposaurusmex
    @crisposaurusmex 8 місяців тому +6

    Super super interesting and fun concept, definitely worth the watch. Great job and great video

  • @Ntinakkos
    @Ntinakkos Місяць тому +1

    Nice video man! Video idea: Can modern day humans survive the age of dinosaurs? Keep up the good work!

  • @estebanmares681
    @estebanmares681 8 місяців тому +12

    Bro Pickle was packin up and eatin the dinosaurs ain't no way the homo erectus is having trouble.

    • @m.e.3358
      @m.e.3358 29 днів тому

      Well, pickle became the material of legends and his genes made it through the millions of years soooo... I would say he's build different

  • @newjojosupercutsandmore2489
    @newjojosupercutsandmore2489 8 місяців тому +5

    I think they’d do just as well if not better in the Triassic, however the Jurassic and Cretaceous it would probably do alright enough to keep evolving

    • @kris6038
      @kris6038 8 місяців тому +1

      The Triassic was less hostile in terms of fauna and flora but more hostile in terms of environment. The oxygen point is very significant. Homo erectus in fact went extinct due to environmental change, and it is less adaptable than Homo sapiens.

  • @lcw96
    @lcw96 8 місяців тому +3

    I'm loving the content, well done! I knew we'd get a video all to ourselves. Everyone asking about peoples on the last video... Here we are

  • @DISTurbedwaffle918
    @DISTurbedwaffle918 8 місяців тому +5

    Homo Erectus probably couldn't pull it off, but I think Neanderthals could. They were larger and more robust, with bigger brains than Erectus - comparable to Sapiens. This stronger and smarter Hominid could definitely pull off survival in the Cretaceous, at least.

    • @tyrawr4394
      @tyrawr4394 9 днів тому

      I think homo erectus definitely has a chance considering we have clear evidence of them hunting Palaeoloxodon which are one of the largest elephants that have weight approximations of 18-22 tons which is more than double the T-Rex's weight (8-9 tons) or the Triceratops (6-10 tons).

  • @Hamsamuel83
    @Hamsamuel83 8 місяців тому +1

    The fact he thought he needed to tell us we weren’t gonna kill mega-sauropods

  • @cokeandice248
    @cokeandice248 7 місяців тому

    Really enjoyable! Keep making videos

  • @tolsgaming6058
    @tolsgaming6058 8 місяців тому

    Enjoy the video! Though the background song has this grinding noise, like metal on a grindstone, which was pretty distracting. Otherwise, great video. Informative and interesting :)

  • @Joe-lb8qn
    @Joe-lb8qn 8 місяців тому +17

    I agree with the comment made near the end, it might be possibel to bring down soemthing like a decent sized hadrosaur for example, but if that attracts a T Rex or similar or even something 1/4 the size, that would be an issue to put it mildly ! One strategy might be to be on islands and work on wiping out the large predators by sytematically destroying their eggs and young. And expand by moving to lkarger isalnds, However woudl H Erectus be able to plan that much?

  • @tristanzz1630
    @tristanzz1630 3 місяці тому +2

    If they could survive mesocene,they‘d still around today

  • @louiechidwick6034
    @louiechidwick6034 8 місяців тому +1

    There were a few problems with living in the Early to mid Mesozoic era for Homo erectus, firstly the chances of them ever making fire was very limited as the 'woody' plants needed to create a friction fire didn't start evolving until the Cretaceous period (late Mesozoic) along with flowering plants and fruit.
    Also flint for fire and tool making was none existent as this was formed by mineral deposits within the sedimentary limestone / chalk layers deposited under the Cretaceous seas and wouldn't become exposed and available until millions of years after the Mesozoic era.
    But if H. erectus had evolved his way into the Mesozoic, then he would have probably found a way to adapt to this environment without fire or flint tools, after all, he was pretty well sorted as far as a Hominin goes.

  • @creatureking-theoriginal1068
    @creatureking-theoriginal1068 8 місяців тому +2

    i love these types of your videos

  • @SeraSmiles
    @SeraSmiles 6 місяців тому +1

    I feel like putting homo erectus into the mesozoic is mostly a question of whether they could survive the temperatures & humidity. Depending on the where & when you could easily have a situation where they wouldnt be able to cool themselves with sweating. Otherwise I feel like there's basically no question that they'd do extremely well. A world full of animals that arent as smart as mammals & lay eggs would be like a buffet.

  • @henrykkeszenowicz4664
    @henrykkeszenowicz4664 7 місяців тому

    As someone who writes about a human civilization originated from time travelers in the Jurassic, I find this video very useful and my work almost useless, as the low oxygen and inability to make fire would be the two extra problems in addition to not having any crops.
    Some people told me that gingo leaves could be consumed as salad, but I'm not sure about that. Outside of fish, occasional salads and egg farming, I see no potential food for the humans.
    On the other hand, weaker fire would make people unable to smelt iron, so the civilization would be stuck in the bronze age if it would ever rise.
    I'm still gonna continue writing a dinosaur bronze age epic because the rule of cool can overrule realism sometimes.

  • @____________838
    @____________838 3 місяці тому

    “The oxygen levels would be difficult for a creature the size of Erectus to live… meanwhile there’s creatures that were larger than Erectus which would make things difficult”

  • @jarofdirt9
    @jarofdirt9 8 місяців тому +1

    The paleoart in this video is stunning. Wish the artists were credited.

  • @conner13.c16
    @conner13.c16 8 місяців тому +4

    I know you make videos about real animals, but it would be neat if you made a video about what if we introduced the dragons from Dragons World a Fantasy Made Real documentary into the Triassic and Jurassic periods (not Cretaceous because they supposedly evolved in that environment). Since the use of fire is an important part of their physiology, it would be interesting to see the challenges posed by the lack of it, just like with H. erectus

  • @KhanSaab-pi6sw
    @KhanSaab-pi6sw 8 місяців тому +2

    Their chances of surviving in the Jurassic are fewer than thr Cretaceous. Giant therapods like T.rex probably wouldnt waste its time chasing tiny humans, but mid sized carnivores of the Jurassic like Allosaurus and Ceratosaurus would hunt humans like rabbits

    • @necrogenisis
      @necrogenisis 8 місяців тому +7

      No, but juvenile tyrannosaurs would most certainly see them as prey. And tyrannosaurines like _T. rex_ filled most available predator niches on their way to adulthood, meaning there would be no way to avoid confrontations with them; except by living in a place lacking giant tyrannosaurs.

  • @tofuteh2348
    @tofuteh2348 8 місяців тому +4

    I think a more 'fair' question would be if mammals could ever eventually evolve into something like homo erectus if the non-avian dinosaurs didnt die out?

    • @johnnodwarf1201
      @johnnodwarf1201 7 місяців тому +1

      it's not strictly impossible but with the fierce competition and predation it would be very difficult I think.

    • @elmohead
      @elmohead 7 місяців тому

      The reptiles suppressed us for 150m years bruh. They occupied every ecological niche, we had no chance.

  • @characterblub2.0
    @characterblub2.0 8 місяців тому

    This is a great video, but about halfway through, the music ends up being at the same volume as the narration which makes it extremely difficult for me (and probably others with auditory processing issues) to properly hear what's being said 😢

  • @VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh
    @VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh 8 місяців тому +1

    The main problem for the Trias and Jurassic era is the absence of flowering plants and thus of edible fruits and of many edible roots for Homo Erectus. Lower oxygen levels is not really an obstacle, as humans live in high altitude and adapt to it. There is no doubt that they would survive in the cretaceous era; dangerous predators existed during their time, and very large dinosaures would have been hunting larger preys anyway. Mastery of fire would have been protecting their lairs so they would have been in danger during hunting and migration, just as they were in their own time, and would have adapted to their environment.

    • @VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh
      @VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zh 8 місяців тому

      Human usually need vitamin C and other nutriments that come from fruits and vegetables; there are exceptions but trais and Jurassic areas would not have been suited for the digestive system of humanoïds@@sxnap3480

  • @dunringill1747
    @dunringill1747 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice content

  • @perfectq7206
    @perfectq7206 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm not sure this presentation make sense. If erectus couldn't handle the much larger creatures of the era then wouldn't it be logical that the oxygen levels had to be high to help increase plants and trees that these huge creatures eat? This would in turn provide fire weaponry for homo erectus.

  • @albertnewtonify
    @albertnewtonify 7 місяців тому +1

    Humans are simple. If they crack how to survive, they would soon thrive and become the most powerful species.

  • @ted1045
    @ted1045 8 місяців тому +3

    Could modern humans surrivive in the Mesozoic I wonder? That's an interesting question.

    • @chickensalad3535
      @chickensalad3535 8 місяців тому +1

      With our current tech? Probably. Without our current tech? Not so much.

    • @babaook-95
      @babaook-95 2 місяці тому

      Even without our modern tech, we survived the ice age which was a much, much worse age than the Mesozoic, we're significantly more intelligent than any known animal at the time so we'd not just survive, we'd thrive.

  • @midgetydeath
    @midgetydeath 7 місяців тому +1

    Low oxygen environment? Oxygen content in the air was a lot higher back then, though. Which also would mean humans would be much larger and much stronger and faster and with much more stamina and energy.

  • @sethivaltas619
    @sethivaltas619 8 місяців тому +1

    A heavily social species of omnivores capable of tool/trap/fire usage also able to use projectile weapons, not to mention the ability to start forrestfires as a hunting tactic? Sounds pretty unbeatable to me, but mabye that’s more homo sapiens than erectus, I dunno

  • @Eye_Exist
    @Eye_Exist 8 місяців тому

    history channel at night proudly presents:

  • @danielmcandrew979
    @danielmcandrew979 8 місяців тому +2

    Bro really treated the whole Triassic as if it were the just like the first ten million years of it rather than looking into thee tire time period. Also said some weird shit about large predators that doesn’t make sense for large swaths of the Triassic

  • @foosic1742
    @foosic1742 8 місяців тому +2

    Wouldn't they be able to chase the large adult dinosaurs off cliffs? Early humans pretty much already did this

  • @chrisoffersen
    @chrisoffersen 7 місяців тому +1

    It’s wild to think of our earth, populated by flora and fauna, that would not support our life. Wow.
    Also, humans would be invasive species, and those seem to do very well wherever they go if the climate will support them.

  • @josh-themighty9967
    @josh-themighty9967 8 місяців тому +3

    I was wondering how do you think Neanderthals or our Pleistocene ancestors would fare in the Mesozoic period too? Do you think they'd do well? 🤔

  • @fantasyskeep
    @fantasyskeep 8 місяців тому +4

    Please do sapiens

  • @undead9999
    @undead9999 8 місяців тому

    I sense a new jurassic park in the making. 😂
    Nice concept

  • @NickholasMcAuliffe-os6fr
    @NickholasMcAuliffe-os6fr 8 місяців тому

    This is right up my alley

  • @kiwikiwikwikiwi
    @kiwikiwikwikiwi 8 місяців тому

    This is the coolest video on youtube

  • @GRIGGINS1
    @GRIGGINS1 8 місяців тому +1

    Fire could burn in the Triassic. I am looking at 3 scientific papers pointing to wildfires towards the end of the Triassic period.

  • @wildbill9490
    @wildbill9490 6 місяців тому

    What I’d like to see examined is what might’ve happened if the K-PG extinction was not as extreme and some smaller dinosaurs and other animals that went extinct managed to survive, and if that may have affected the evolution of mammals during the Cenozoic.

  • @itsafish4600
    @itsafish4600 8 місяців тому +2

    And then pickle was born

  • @ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803
    @ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803 5 місяців тому

    Initially yes, but dont forget predator and prey dynamics. The smarter the prey is then so is the predator. This means that the more intelligent species of dinosaurs will inevitably adapt to the tactics employed by homo erectus.

  • @jout738
    @jout738 4 місяці тому +1

    Humans wouldnt get still through the stage of being scavenger without weapon in their hand, because they would be way too easy meal for fast running Tyronosaurus Rex.

  • @cy-taku3952
    @cy-taku3952 4 місяці тому +1

    If us humans were I this era yea we would absolutely thrive

  • @anita2293
    @anita2293 8 місяців тому

    what's that weird flying lizard / pterosaur thing in 2:32?

  • @unknowngojira742
    @unknowngojira742 4 місяці тому

    i think if homo erectus was evolving in the Mesozoic, they'd grow a little bit larger because of larger predators and larger prey. But at the same time, they might just end up smaller to avoid competition and live off of low levels of oxygen.

  • @Nigel_BC
    @Nigel_BC 8 місяців тому

    Interesting!

  • @brianrussell2441
    @brianrussell2441 8 місяців тому +3

    Pit traps for sauropods

    • @brianrussell2441
      @brianrussell2441 8 місяців тому +2

      Imagine the absolute destruction that a pit trap can do to one of those things

  • @user-roninwolf1981
    @user-roninwolf1981 8 місяців тому

    I'd love to know if you'd make a video of "Would Big Cats Survive in the Mesozoic" and "Would Elephants Survive in the Mesozoic."

  • @allyourmoney
    @allyourmoney 7 місяців тому +2

    Homo erectus wouldn't have to fight off the larger +60 ton dinosaurs. Those were strictly vegetarian & wouldn't prey on them. If competing for real estate, erectus could still ward them off with fire. Having a bunch of flaming spears thrown at them would be like getting swarmed by a nasty beehive. Theropods could be hunted as per usual along with the young offspring & eggs of the large quadrupeds. As long as the oxygen content was high enough for fire they'd survive.

  • @skycloud4802
    @skycloud4802 8 місяців тому +1

    I think the use of fire would be indispensable. All animals fear fire. Even a might t-rex would probably freak out at a pack of humans waving around flaming fire torches.

  • @midgetydeath
    @midgetydeath 7 місяців тому

    When you remember just how vicious and cruel humans can be, suddenly the idea we are from the same time as dinosaurs fits pretty well.

  • @JustSomeBaboon
    @JustSomeBaboon 7 місяців тому +1

    It is giving flintstones vibes

  • @LewisZilla
    @LewisZilla 8 місяців тому

    Video idea: would Xiphactinus survive the modern ecosystem? Or
    Would Whale Sharks survive around the times Leedsichthys was around?

  • @elmohead
    @elmohead 7 місяців тому

    Ranged weapons + fire = inevitable dominance.

  • @JohnDoe-ib3hr
    @JohnDoe-ib3hr 8 місяців тому +5

    I've no doubt that Homo Erectus would dominate the Cretaceous period completely. Through overexploitation of herbivorous megafauna causing ripple effects in large theropod populations, to dramatically altering the environment using hotter and harder to control fire. I can see them rapidly evolving technologically, socially and tactically in such a challenging setting. Not to mention that they would likely become fully carnivorous with the abundance of game and abject absence of human compatible edible flora, they would become true super predators.

  • @craiggibbons8228
    @craiggibbons8228 8 місяців тому +3

    So much inconsistencies and inaccurate data from this video it's mind boggling.
    1) He claims that Homo Erectus was too large and there fore would not have enough oxygen to breath.
    Yet we have Dinosaurs over 60 feet in length breathing in gallons of oxygen to function.
    Furthermore we know for a fact that in the Triassic and Jurassic time periods the oxygen content was HIGHER (not lower), than it is now.
    So Homo Erectus would have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM breathing in those time periods.
    2) He states fire would not work due to the low oxygen (which is false as the oxygen was not low), while completely disregariding the fact of volcanoes going off and lightening causing fires that were burned into the rocks and have been discovered during archaeological digs.
    We know there were fires happening in those time periods, and if fires happened, then the conditions for fires can be controlled, and primitive humans would have utilised that.
    3) He talks about lack of vegetation. Yes our natural vegetation was not yet formed. But its precursors were, and through trial and error humans would have found what was edible and what was poisonous (just like every creature does throughout history).
    To assume no plant based food would be edible (especially as it is the precursor to what we ate back then) is foolishness and lacks common sense.
    The planet would not have been poisonous to us.
    Humans would have found what was good and gathered that.
    As for the Dinosaurs, big or small, they would be destroyed.
    What modern people do not realise or ever take into account is vengefulness and pre meditated murder.
    People get impressed by big sizes and think "Ooh it's so huge, it's impossible to kill or tame.
    We know from modern skull examinations that Parasaurolophus had about as much brains as a cow.
    Early humans would have gathered these as an easy food source (regardless of size), or even domesticated them like horses eventually.
    If a Dinosaur was to dangerous like say a Utah Raptor or T-Rex or Carnatorus etc....
    Humans would build traps and lure it into a trap and then when it falls in there, the would beat it to death with rocks and spears.
    Big sauropods like Argentinasaurs who would be impossible to kill with spears would be chased (and being dumb they would run), towards the edges of cliffs.
    We're the fear of the chase would run them of the edge. Humans would then eat the dead carcas below.
    And predator that chased them off a hunt or killed member of the tribe would be hunted at night and killed in an ambush of fire, traps and so on.
    It's eggs would then be eaten or destroyed so it's next generation never comes through.
    Then humans would see out nests of Dinosaurs and destroy every single one they find.
    Luring the mother away while the tribe destroy the nest.
    Humans would continuously do this and in a few generations all predators we deemed a threat would cease to exist.
    Size is irrelevant when you have a brain more advance by lightyears than the prey you are hunting.
    So sorry.
    Any environment were we can safely breath properly (and we can breath properly all the way back to the silurian time period) we would thrive and dominate.
    Like it or not, that's logical facts.

    • @tyrawr4394
      @tyrawr4394 9 днів тому

      I think homo erectus definitely has a big chance considering we have clear evidence of them hunting Palaeoloxodon which are one of the largest elephants that have weight approximations of 18-22 tons which is more than double the T-Rex's weight (8-9 tons) or the Triceratops (6-10 tons).

  • @SneedenFeeden
    @SneedenFeeden 4 місяці тому

    Megafauna hunting tactics would probably be even more effective against even larger animals like sauropods, not less!

  • @leudast1215
    @leudast1215 8 місяців тому

    Every comment and the OP be ignoring disease and parasites 😂

  • @John-qu8zv
    @John-qu8zv 7 місяців тому

    Excellent video very well done. Very scientificly accurate Homo Erectus is a interesting species I didn't know they were around one hundred and ten thousand years ago . I think it's cool that they were around as same time as later species.

  • @Tyrannosauroidea
    @Tyrannosauroidea 8 місяців тому +1

    Homo Erectus probably will be often crushed by sauropods that didn’t see them because those Homo Erectus are to small 😂

  • @blooky102
    @blooky102 8 місяців тому +6

    Hmm since Homo Erectus survived for much longer than even our species I would give it a high chance of survival, however that's only if it realises that it could build defensive structures to hide from the larger predators. Also I do not think its impossible for them to hunt the largest prey dinosaurs but they would need to set elaborate traps like pitfalls and barriers funnelling them to one place although it would obviously be very time and resource consuming so it would be better to hunt smaller prey.

    • @ReekoTheTherian
      @ReekoTheTherian 8 місяців тому

      I possibly think the homo erectus would attack small mammals and scavenge if there was rather dead caracasses

  • @antoinemantoux6049
    @antoinemantoux6049 2 місяці тому

    People don't realize how important this video is. In the Bible it's written that humankind was created on the first 7 days of the creation of the earth, hence could have survived with dinosaurs

  • @2001septeleven
    @2001septeleven 13 днів тому

    just a theory but because fire would be more effective back then, wouldnt the dinosaurs of the cretaceous be more resistant?

  • @shin-ishikiri-no
    @shin-ishikiri-no 8 місяців тому

    We would become "Homo Erectile Dysfuntion" very quickly.

  • @JAI_SHREE_RAM12337
    @JAI_SHREE_RAM12337 8 місяців тому +1

    Just wait until they find a caveman fighting a dinosaur frozen in ice

  • @Dj_Not_Nice
    @Dj_Not_Nice 8 місяців тому

    So you saying they couldn't even breathe sometimes?

  • @scottythetrex5197
    @scottythetrex5197 8 місяців тому +2

    Homo erectus scares me.

  • @Gaspe19
    @Gaspe19 8 місяців тому

    Synapsids were around long before the dinosaurs.

  • @aaronbeckett4062
    @aaronbeckett4062 7 місяців тому

    Well I honestly don’t think if they couldn’t have defeated the much smaller and less formidable predators of the Triassic how would they survive at all in the Jurassic or Cretaceous with theropods and mega-theropods roaming around

  • @TheSaphireKatana
    @TheSaphireKatana 8 місяців тому +1

    I feel like their ability to create fire would definitely drive away any threat they faced, and with their intelligence theu would definitely pick up on that. Quickly forming both hunting and defence tactics to hunt their prey
    Using fire to scare dinosaurs from their nests then steal all the eggs they would ever need
    Their are some locations across the world where cavemen would set up kill boxes and traps such as scarring megafauna into running/falling off the edge of a cliff that their death. If a group found the right spot they could definitely achieve these tactics in any period woth enough oxygen to produce fire

  • @lescobrandon1011
    @lescobrandon1011 8 місяців тому

    Oonga boonga mambo jambo!

  • @randomguyontheinternet8345
    @randomguyontheinternet8345 5 місяців тому +1

    But if they build villages they would eventually build forts and traps. T rex is big yea but even Rexy can still die from a well laid trap

  • @kluk8284
    @kluk8284 7 місяців тому

    Actual chat gpt generated content

  • @peterbrigola5069
    @peterbrigola5069 8 місяців тому

    can you do could mesozic animals survive the modern era?

  • @minhhoangdo6943
    @minhhoangdo6943 8 місяців тому

    +1 point in Int to use pointy stick. Pointy stick is very effective against medium to small lizard.

  • @4bidden1
    @4bidden1 8 місяців тому +1

    Have y’all not seen the documentary “Jurassic Park” yet?

    • @babaook-95
      @babaook-95 2 місяці тому +1

      tf you mean documentary? they didn't actually bring dinosaurs back to life

    • @4bidden1
      @4bidden1 2 місяці тому

      @@babaook-95 I thought it was real

  • @touieg1211
    @touieg1211 8 місяців тому

    I like to think that if Homo Erectus lived in groups with a large enough population they could defend theropod dinosaur attacks, and take down large prey more effectively.

  • @ravenmoon5111
    @ravenmoon5111 8 місяців тому

    They had fire so I don’t want to underestimate them. But I think they would be extremely hard pressed

  • @godusopp2752
    @godusopp2752 7 місяців тому

    I think its more about the environment than it is about predators, I just think homo erectus are too smart to not thrive due to predators

  • @Aryavarta225
    @Aryavarta225 8 місяців тому

    Well f-22 raptor has joined the chat