If you want to learn more about tuberculosis and the folks working to fight it, check out the organization Partners in Health at pih.org/programs/tuberculosis
I'm a doctor in Kenya and I deal with TB every day. I find it incredulous when I'm involved in discussions of respiratory illnesses on an international level and it's primarily COPD, pneumonia or COVID when TB has been killing my people for decades with minimal innovation in the field. I really appreciate the awareness this video is bringing to the plight that plagues billions, particularly in Africa and Asia. Kudos to PIH for the work you do.
That's because there isn't enough money in it, unlike the covid, political & corporate scams which are responsible for the largest wealth transfer in history.
wishing you stength and a better response from the international community. Know that many of us want what you do but our leaders are too big, too far, and sometimes too corrupt for our wishes to be heard and actioned
I'm just happy that finally someone addressed this ghost of a disease before I die. I fought for 3 years and now almost all the drugs are resistant for me. It turned into XDR or TDR they say. I don't know how much time I have left to be alive. Thank you so much John for speaking up. Edit: I meant I'm still on drugs trying to fight with an additional antibiotic. But it might resist to the antibiotic as well. And the patient can survive 3-4 years last thing I read about it. So I appreciate the everyone but I'm still fighting. Thank you so much.
My microbiology professor said he believes the reason we're not freaking out over it is because the media doesnt bring it up on everyones radars and its a slower death so its not as shocking to people
Reminds me a little of the fear around nuclear power. People are afraid of it because they're afraid of another Chernobyl, when the reality is that we could have a meltdown akin to Chernobyl at least once every decade and it would still not kill as many people as coal plants do. And that's just counting the deaths directly resulting from living or working in or near the plant itself, not global warming.
I like to think of it like this: 1. "Ok, here's how screwed we are." 2. "But wait, we can fix this." 3. "Just because we _can_ fix it, doesn't mean we _are_ fixing it, though."
It is almost the same number with diarrhea, however diarrhea can be combated with access to drinking water and basic sanitation, something that we should all have access to.
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@@firestarter6039 Oh man. I love diarrhea. It's great.
Now that’s a real achievement for him! He also could have very possibly also been carrying it in its inactive state for many decades which could possibly have been for most of his lifetime!
i was diagnosed with TB 2 months ago. i was scared and thought i was going to die early. i was comforted by the nurse that TB is not scary anymore as it was before. i had panicked attacks and i was always scared every time i cough because of the blood. i lose weight and always feeling exhausted. 2 months into the medication and im slowly getting back to shape. sorry im not good in english. edit: thank you for the hopes and prayers, i love you all.
Some context: in the Netherlands we swear with diseases a lot. I once got annoyed about something and swore with cancer. A friend of mine got angry about that and told me I shouldn't swear with cancer when there's a lot of people dying from it. I then checked if "tering" (tuberculosis) was okay, and he said yes. I pointed out TB had killed a lot more people and he responded with "yeah but that was in the past, and cancer is still around" It never ceases to amaze me how few people know TB is still killing so many people in our modern times.
I never heard of it since the Victorian era I figured it wasn't eradicated, but... There has to be some reason people were obsessed with it then and not now
I'm sorry, but this has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever heard of. I'm picturing someone dropping a pencil or something and going 'ah tuberculosis' I cannot stop laughing I am dying But yeah, really strange how people think it's been eradicated when it's still so prevalent
At 0:16 it’s really nice to hear a voice usually talking in a 3rd person talk to another person in sort of a natural way makes me remember this is a real person and not just a random voice
As soon as he said John Green I immediately knew it was tuberculosis. It's amazing the effort he puts to raise awareness and fight back this horrible disease. I wish we had more people like him, or that we didn't have to. But my maddest respect for this incredible human being.
My grandmother’s brother had TB. He was treated at a sanatorium in Eddyville, KY. He came out clear, and lived another 20 or so years. No one has to go into sanatoriums anymore.
I caught TB and I live in France (Paris). I still remember that the worse part was not the coughing or the fever but the loss of appetite. I kept this disease for more than 6-7 months until I got cured. I went to see doctors because I didn't know what was happening to me, I thought first it was flu and the doctors thought so as well. For multiple months, nobody could diagnostic what I had and I described the symptoms : cough, fever, loss of appetite, cold sweat (I lost 15kg by the time I was cured). It's until I got to the hospital when they gave me an X-ray radiography and you could see how big it was in my lung. This disease is still underestimated these days, because people think that's not something that you can caught in western countries. You should still be afraid of this shit, way more than being afraid to get COVID. EDIT : English is not my first language so I may have some typo/grammatical errors.
With all the migration and traveling going on in this day and age, this should get talked about more. Especially in Europe, where populations get older, including doctors, and the knowledge they learned at the beginning of their long careers may not reflect the situation an more.
My friend Arthur Morgan recently passed from this - he was taken from us too soon because of TB. Thank you for spreading awareness about this disease. RIP.
Oh wow, you knew him too? Ah, suppose it's not all that surprising. He had a rough upbringing and was by no means perfect, but he was really turning things around. Does my heart some good to know he had an impact on others as well.
This is true for a lot of resources. Food, housing, etc. We have more than enough of everything, but have decided to let some people hoard it rather than distribute it among ourselves.
I lost my friend from TB. The bacteria has reached his brain, causing meningitis. Last time he said that he just had the flu, before he collapsed at work and was brought to the hospital. He was in a coma for a week. It happened too fast.
We had treatment therapies which began to work on suppression at a population-level of contagion. TB should have become a trivial risk today. As I have been drawn to understand, sloppy - on a global level - application of effective treatments, was the major point of failure. Say it ain't so?
TB almost got my father, he barely escape death as he was being bedridden for weeks. Then a year later his aorta ripped, but he again he defied the 10% survival odds with a lucky clot. Now just had a throat cancer removed (likely from the TB damage) and is recovering from the radiation and chemotherapy. He is the most stubborn man I know and I couldn't be more proud of him!
ur dad might have pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, tell ur dad to meet ms Ann T. Disestablishmentarianism so she can give ur dad ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid or dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT) to remove it. she can also help with pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism and sphenopalatineganglioneuralgia so u wont be floccinaucinihilipilification. and also she has some grandfathers-in-law incase anything goes wrong, and also will definitely make u supercalifragilisticexpialidocious up-to-the-minute since johnnies-come-lately
My grandma and mum have had TB. They now have marks on one of their lungs whenever they get an xray, but I don't mind it at all. I'm so glad they survived.
I recently did a test for TB for university placements. My sister did in the year before and she got a negative. It was just paperwork to me. To my shock though, I got a positive and in reality I have latent TB. Learning about it can be isolating, especially in a country like Australia where I was born or raised where you never hear anything about it. I'm with Mr Green and am very thankful to this channel. So many people were just as ignorant as me about it and it's massive impacts on society even today in 2024. I'm planning on doing the medications later this year. Wish me luck!
@@YavorYanakiev Thank you! As I have a busy uni year, I'm waiting until the 4 month break starts in November to take it (it needs huge commitment as you have to take meds for 4 months). Hopefully I don't contract the active form by then!
@@lbell9695Do you watch Vlogbrothers? John has discussed TB there for probably over a year now (not every week tho). If you don't, you might like hearing what has been achieved in fighting TB in just the last few years. John is also writing a book on TB, but I it doesn't have a release date yet I think. Maybe next year?
You're so brainwashed by society, humans are apes. We aren’t machines who serve overlords who wear big fancy wings. Tax is evil and you being punished for not paying it is satanic
I dated someone who was a son of a US diplomat and he had lived in Singapore before he moved back to the US. He told me he has TB in his blood but it's "dormant." I was a bit jolted by the revelation but he assumed me as long as he wasn't coughing blood or anything, I was good. This was over 20 years ago. I hope TB is eradicated soon. 4000 people daily is too many.
The fact that TB can be cured with a four-month regimen is a huge relief, but it's frustrating that so many people still suffer due to a lack of resources and awareness.
I lost my mother to TB this year. She was 54. We're in Europe. She had all the antibiotics available and administered to her, and it wasn't enough. TB is still very much a deadly and dangerous foe, even if you have the meds to fight it. Fingers crossed for a better future.
It is all due to human selfishness. Drugs are not distributed to poorer countries, leading the disease to infect more and evolve. After a while, it spreads to developed nations and everyone is worse off because people are selfish. The exact same thing happened with covid vaccines. We will keep getting new and worse diseases while people don't realize that a disease in a poor country is an epidemic or pandemic waiting to happen in the entire world. We need global efforts to give free access to medicine for every country in the world. We will not solve diseases if people can't afford treatment and spread them everywhere.
Got diagnosed with it a year ago, completely out of the blue. Two weeks of 40+ fever, four weeks isolated hospitalization, lost 15kg, and still recovering. Cannot recommend, 3 out of 5 stars, and that's only because of the drugs and being blessed with living in the EU.
I am so sorry for your loss. What happened, before they passed? If you don't mind me asking, I am currently fighting the disease, so I am a little curious
Currently fighting this disease. Got it in February, completing my dose in like 2 months. It sucks. At the onset, I woke up at 4am unable to breathe. I had to gasp hard and deep to get some air in. Went to the hospital, quickly got oxygenated. Then they did some tests. Confirmed I had it, then started medication soon after. Been feeling better since then. It was scary though. 2 months' Update: finished my medication. TB Free at last! Thank you all for the kind words.
As soon as you see the words "disease" and "John Green" you know it's gonna be about TB. Man picked the biggest villain out there to be his arch nemesis.
exactly my thought. clicked on the video with no idea what disease it was about, but as soon as john green was called over to speak, i had my bets on TB xD
@@adamk.7177… it’s 100% curable & there’s a vaccine for it. My mom had it years ago & she got cured of it after spending 2 months in the hospital undergoing treatment for it. there’s nothing to be worried about this disease
Hello! I'm a medical student from Italy and wanted to say just one more thing: when a patient results positive to immunological tests but shows no signs of active tubercolosis (a condition defined as latent TB infection), there's the possibility to be treated with a chemoprophilaxis which is essentially an antibiotic treatment similar to the one for active TB (usually two drugs instead of four). I don't know how it works in your countries, but look it up if you're ever in need! It helps reducing the probability of a future reactivation!
I'm looking into this now. I have latent TB and recently had an organ transplant, which bodes ill considering the immune-suppressing medication I have to take to maintain my transplant.
I need to look into this for my ex wife. She was exposed to TB and has a positive test because of it with it dormant, but a ticking time bomb considering that she's a smoker. Don't know if insurance here in the US will cover it now, though.
I caught this in December last year. The scary part was it was not showing up on sputum tests or others. Then I underwent a bronchoscopy and TB was diagnosed. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. Pray for my recovery.
Hey man i also got TB before and fully recovered, i remembered the hard day to day that i need to pass it's painful. But you will get there as long as you take the medicine regularly, you can do it
My dad worked in a TB research lab back in the 70's and 80s. It was an outbuilding far away from the research hospital it was part of. When it finally closed down, they poured accelerant all through it and burned it *multiple* times, knocked it down, salted the earth with chemicals it and then buried it under concrete just to be sure. That sh*t is seriously hard to kill.
My mother almost died two years ago from latent TB that she thought she overcame in Mexico as a child, where she grew up. Evidently, it came back with a vengence 30 years later; and in addition to causing pulmonary symptoms, however, it attacked her spinal fluid and caused meningitis. The inflammation got so severe so quickly that it paralyzed the gut nerves connected to the vertibrae where the inflammation was the worst, leading to much poorer digestive function. Between the exceptionally powerful antibiotic regiment she took to kill the TB and the damage it did to her gut nerves, the doctors she saw only gave her a few months to live on her own. They said she would likely slowly starve to death as her digestive system could no longer process anything more complex than a simple sugar. A nutrient IV would postpone it, but that is incredibly expensive and the American Healthcare system is kinda rigged. Things were looking pretty grim for a while, but she actually found salvation in gut microbiome transplants and smoothies. She still has to puree any solid food before she eats it to avoid indigestion and has to completely avoid fast food, but she is no longer critically malnourished. Thanks, Kurzgesagt for making a video on this. Here in the developed countries it's easy to take TB for granted, but it is still a monster humanity should not forget exists.
I'm so glad that grim outlook in the first half diminished greatly, perhaps get her some cybernetics that the billionaires used back in the 2024 days in secret, when they do become cheap, lol.
Oh god, hearing a story of a crazy survival from TB really woke up for me that TB, is more than just a slow killer, it's death itself. Also I feel horrible for you and your mother.
I think for the medical systems its BETTER to be pessimistic and then the patient survives longer and family is happy ; THAN being optimistic and the patient dies and family gets angry.
Microbiome transplant. Fascinating. Search for the Ketogenic Diet. It might help your mom if she ever relapses. (I hope not). All bacteria feed on sugars and carbs, TB probably too. Also check out phage therapy. Perfect to killing bacteria that can't be easily killed by antibiotics
I worked with a Canadian guy who caught TB when he was in his late 20s. Before he got sick he was a competitive bodybuilder. I saw photos of him from those days and he was HUGE, a massive man with the biggest muscles all over his body. I couldn’t believe it was the same person because when I met him he was as scrawny as a scarecrow. He said the disease consumed his body like it was eating breakfast. Even after being fully cured he couldn’t put on muscle again.
I just finished school to be an EMT and if there is one thing they emphasize, it's how scary TB is and the importance of safety. To quote my instructor, "people think that car accidents and fires are the scary calls to go on, but if you follow the rules, you're safe. Tuberculosis and Meningitis are the two scariest calls you can go on. Wear gloves and masks and get tested."
That is simply not true. As a TB-specialist I can assure you that wearing an FFP2/N95-mask protects you "100%". It takes very intesive (e.g. when you intubate a person) or long lasting (>8 hours) UNPROTECTED contacts to get infected. And even then only 10% of those at risk acquire the infection. And of those infected only 5% get sick in their lifetime. In Western Europe it is easy to treat TB - the high number of deaths happen elsewhere in the world. The hard thing is to think of TB as a differential diagnosis even in parts of the world where it has become rare - like in the Netherlands. And if you, as an EMT, a notified in advance of a possible TB case (in my experience from Germany a false report most of the time) you should not worry at all as long as you wear a mask. Even gloves can be omitted.
Had a TB patient in my high school some months ago and the school didn't even send students home And the School nurse refused to hand out masks saying "It's not infectious through air"
*too Also well said, and by our society I think they mean modern global societies which includes how all of our voters and governments react to slow threats
True. Doesn't help that political terms around the world are rarely longer than 5 years and parties mainly focus on short term stuff they can score with... Also, the fact that an industry driven by profit has not much incentive to eradicate a disease completely with a cure they spent billions in research for. Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but some things like health should definitely not be an asset in the stock market...
I like how he mentions climate change. There are a lot of people I know in my personal life that believe climate change is made up by the government in order for us to change our lives.
I Contracted Tuberculosis in early 2020, 'Dodging' most of the ensuing pandemic on account of being bedridden and I was stuck that way for 9 months. It attacked my body first, atrophying my muscles, eating away at me... then it attacked my mind, suffocating my will to live, to get up and do literally anything. My legs no longer moved the right way, I couldn't walk, I threw up whatever I ate or drank slowly withering away. It's no wonder they called it Consumption. I still have nerve damage in my feet making it difficult to balance or run. This disease is horrible, I do consider myself EXTREMELY lucky to have made it through and largely that's simply due to my ability to access the right treatments. I Implore you that IF YOU CAN, for the people who aren't as lucky as me, find some way to contribute to more broadly accessible treatment so that no-one has to go through that in our future
@@denusklausen3685probably donate to the right causes, that’s as much as you could do. You could also help raise awareness so figures in a better place could donate too
In 2018 I survived TB, I was 29 years old, I had headaches, temperature and night sweats for months before I knew I had the disease. I eventually coughed and vomited blood and that's when I went to the doctor. The disease was detected through a bronchoscopy.
Oh boy. Can’t imagine not going to the doctor after months of those symptoms. What was the reason for you not going to the doctor that long if I may ask?
@@User-gd5un Just stubbornness, I don't usually go to the doctor or get routine checkups. It was until I felt a lot of pain in my chest due to a constant cough that I decided to go to the doctor.
I got it at 6, drank bad-tasting medicine for a year, and feel lucky later that it was a treatable stain then. All I lost were the lymph nodes in my my neck and a year of school.
Very nice video. Mycobacterium tuberculosis is the most dangerous bacteria in existence and I appreciate that you spread information on this matter. I'd like to contest that Mycobacterium tuberculosis haunted humanity like no other bacteria though, since Staphylococus aureus and Helicobacter pylori are strong contenders for this title. Luckily they are not as deadly as the White Death .... yet.
Tuberculosis killed my great grandmother and is still a melancholy subject in our family. My grandmother recalled how as a young girl she was not permitted to visit when her mother was sent to the hospital. She could only wave to her mother through the hospital window. She never got to hug her mother before she passed. Even though it was for my grandmother's own protection, the memory pained her her whole life.
My grandma too. She caught it as a child. The people running the orphanage didn’t notice. It was bad, then better. Then as a adult it got bad again, while she was living in the Congo. She had to live with just one working lung. An infection of the airways killed her in the end. By then dementia had already caught up on her. She lived a full life.
I found out I had TB when I got checked at the VA Hospital after getting out of the Army. Found out I got it when on a NATO mission back in 2015 in Eastern Europe. Although currently dormant, I still have it and am able to get treatment but can't due to current medications that would cause severe problems to the rest of my body. Every year I need to get x-rayed and have blood drawn to see if my TB is no longer dormant and has become active. It's a scary feeling knowing you have TB. Every time you cough, don't feel good, have chest pressure, anything really, makes you paranoid that your TB has become active. You have to disclose that you have TB Everytime you go to a clinic or hospital and doctors and nurses are nervous to get near you and always wear high protection masks even before covid even for basic checkups. I have 3 children and a wife and am always scared I will spread the TB to them as well. All around it's a physical and mental nightmare for me and it's not even active TB...
You aren't alone and you have other things to be grateful for. Try and allocate asich time thinking about those good things as you do to your problems in a day. It will help keep you from having only negative thoughts
I had TB when I was 6 years old, more than 60 years ago. Mom told me I would always have it, it isn't dormant but can be if my health deteriorates. I had to be X-rayed every 2 years and was told not to take any TB tests/shots at school since I would always be positive. My grandmother had it a few years before I was born and had to go to a sanitorium but I didn't due to medicine. She lost the use of 1 lung (she lived 40+ years without it) and continued to smoke. I never knew her as a non-smoker (died at age 93). I never worry about it. When it's my time, I'm gone. I hope you will ask Jesus into your heart if you haven't already. With HIM, your life outlook will change. Guaranteed!
@@OscarOSullivan Our fight with rabies is still ongoing. TB was defeated almost half a century ago with mandatory vaccinating of children. Well for our population it was defeated. Now we just might be immune carriers.
This reminds me of an old game strategy in Plague Inc. Specifically where you would max infection rate but have zero severity and lethality UNTIL everyone was infected
One of my favorite games ever. There's a pop up called "more infectious than TB" and to me, this one feels weirdly more dangerous and threatening as the other pop ups
Living in India, i see cases of TB every single day. As a radiologist, the exposure to reporting cases of TB is so common, that some days this is the only disease I see in a day.
@@TheinternetArchaeologist One of many things to diagnose TB is RTG of the chest - you may see shit, moreover, the doctors make description of RTG and MRI leave you these with CD to send this information further to local sanitary stations. Even if you don't do RTG's and you're just an assisstant, you hear and read shit.
TB survivor here, got it when i was 12 years old and the relapsed when i was 22 years old, both of the times i must did 6 months long of treatment of consuming medicines in the exact same time everyday, thank goodness i recover quickly and i can going on my day again
I was vaccinated twice. As a newborn and age 8. As an adult the risk reward ratio is too high but for Kids it is really helpful. They stopped vaccinating kids bc the disease is rare now in my country, but with worldwide travel ot seems awedully short sighted.
I got abdominal tb at 14. At 18 i suddenly got weight loss,blood in stool etc. Now im 22 still struggling. I didnt even got duagnosed properly...😢😢😢 Worst condition im now. Dont know if i have, ibs,ibd or crohns ,colitis ,etc But symptoms are just worse man. Cant eat anything good.
Me too. Tested positive twice. Second time I got it, it got me released from boot camp, had to take antibiotics for a year again, couldn’t stay on base, but I could come back but I never did. So far so good, seems gone.
I'm glad I found this. One if my relatives caught this years ago (Nigerian speaking), he isn't joking when he said "You turn into a ghost version of yourself" We blamed it on his smoking, I feel bad for the shunning he must have received at the time. Glad to know more about it. Thanks Kurzegesagt.
My great-grandmother died of TB. My grandpa made it his mission to eradicate TB and dedicated all his life to it. He helped many people but I think he knew that he didn't succeed in his lifetime. I hope one day soon TB will be a horrible memory of the past and no longer something we have to live with in the present or future.
I imagine that our slow attention span is why the concept of accelerationalism became a thing. When devoted political forces feel that we aren't paying attention to an issue they feel is urgent, extremists then usually seek to accelerate the problems so that the general populace may finally notice the issue and take action before it's "too late".
@drakolax John Green is a major advocate of access to TB treatment, and spreading awareness of TB's spread, and lack of equal access to treatment, is one of his personal missions.
As a kid, I remember reading about "the consumption" - which is a pretty apt descriptor for how tuberculosis chips away at your health and life if untreated. It's presence is still seen in older media, with things like cowboys spitting at people being a huge deal, since it was illegal in lots of places because of how easily tuberculosis can spread through saliva, or how Dracula described vampires' victims in detail that matches the victims of TB. It irks me that we could have eradicated it but then basically shrugged our shoulders and went, "eh, good enough." 😒 My hope is that one day the only way tuberculosis has an impact on people is through history or media such as literature or movies.
Yeah, that's how I originally read about it too, "consumption", and MAN that's a creepy name. One we don't use so much anymore, unfortunately. I remember, one time I was watching a Let's Play of "Oregon Trail 2" here on UA-cam (yes, there's an Oregon Trail 2, and it's WAY deadlier and more detailed than the first one) and at one point, somebody in the wagon party got sick, and when you talk to people to try to figure out what's going on, one lady is like "Oh, I think he's come down with the consumption!" "Consumption?" said the confused modern UA-camr. "Wait, do you mean like, he ATE too much? Eating? Is that what that is?" Oh. Oh honey no. No. YOU'RE not the one consumING...
My father had a positive tubercolosis results a week ago. He was healthy, I can even claim that helthier than me. Disease started rapidly, 2 weeks and he basically can't normaly walk, and at this point most of his lungs are affected by it. Thanks for explaining to me why it happens this way, and all, please stay safe!
This video is very helpful and helps me be aware of bacterial pathogens and infections and it taught me that microbes that reproduce slowly can be very stealthy and deadly.
@@gmonkmanalso, back then medical providers didn’t routinely screen for drug resistant TB. Patients were given a full course of antibiotics for regular TB that just wouldn’t kill the resistant bacteria. Plus, the drugs necessary for drug resistant TB were very expensive, and still are, although it’s gotten better thanks to organizations like Partners in Health.
Homo Sapiens have not been around for "millions of years" nor would we have survived as a species if it had been around in the olden times. More lies from Bill Gates and his horde of demons. Homo sapiens have only been around for 500 thousand years give or take a bit.
My nephew got TB as an infant. Everyone exposed to him had to get a skin test. He was in isolation in the hospital for a week. No one else had it. He's 29 now, healthy, handsome, and happy.
A friend of mine also got TB as an infant, it got worse and developed into TB Meningitis. The meningitis has given him some complications. He’s lucky to be alive.
Could we please hold on a minute to appreciate this amazing storytelling? Within minutes, I was scared to death, then full of hope, and then sad about all the losses in the past.
I work as an ER nurse in a level one facility in a province in The Philippines. We get at least 5 newly confirmed Pulmonary TB every week. Yeah. And yes, I also have it, and did my time of having it treated 3 years ago.
in the 80s and 90s there was an institution in Türkiye called the Fight the TB Foundation. Whenever you applied for a job,it was mandatory to go there to have an X-ray taken and get a clean sheet. In occupations that handle food, you had to repeat this every 6 months. How we forget these things is incredible...
I am from Indonesia. And 3 of my extended families dies of TB. 1 Adult of 30-ish years and 2 elders of 50-ish years, and it was all from 1 household. Those was 2 parents and 1 child, they are a family of 2 parents, 5 children, 2 of the children's spouse and 2 grandchildren, they all shared a medium sized house of questionable conditions, as Rent is quite high. I do believe the whole family is infected with TB but are in the dormant state, sometimes I too get paranoid about it when experiencing bad cough, either from Covid, common cold, or from my allergies and asthma, almost everyone in the extended family have quite a lengthy contacts with the "TB" Infected family. Maybe I'll get screened for TB once in a while, although we have an even scarier risk we are forced to live with... It's named "ASBESTOS", it's everywhere in Indonesia, most houses use it as ceiling materials, because they are cheaper and people are unaware of the dangers. Worse yet, the asbestos conditions in most of the houses are in deteriorating conditions, either cracked or broken completely from previous earthquakes which is quite common in my country.
My family is from Indonesia but they moved to America when they were young. My sisters and I were born in America. My mom got sick with a fever the second we visited Indonesia and I felt so bad because I was the only one wearing a mask. I always clean everything if I can. I hope your family stays safe and healthy! We learn about asbestos in school and I'm so sorry to hear that. Also, I'm sorry for your loss 🕊️ may they rest in peace.
Unfortunately due to the prohibitive cost of healthcare of the United States, getting that treatment costs tens of thousands of dollars alone; god forbid you have to stay any stretch of time in a hospital for that treatment period. If the disease doesn't kill you then the sheer stress of the medical bills will.
@@MegaLokopo you can ask for the bill to be itemized, at which point many insignificant costs may be removed because of how a hospital charge master works but ultimately if you end up having to spend a significant amount of time in a room or the ER your bill will be within the tens of thousands within a matter of days. A single ER visit cost my girlfriend 35k and there wasn't even an overnight stay. Merely seeing a doctor for 5 minutes costs upwards of 300. If you are wealthy you can afford this kind of thing easily but for the rest of us these are bills that will easily and immediately break the bank with little to no chance of financial recovery.
@@BowandSvent I have negotiated with hospitals to bring costs from as high as two hundred thousand dollars and change, down to five thousand and change. I have on other occasions had bills go down from two hundred dollars down to 10 dollars.
@@MegaLokopo even if that worked (it doesn't in most cases) you have to constantly call your hospital and 3 different departments of your insurance company, and send the same paperwork over and over. The cost of treating tuberculosis with the exact same medicine in Japan is $35. As opposed to whatever the US hospital/insurance feels like charging. Don't you think you deserve to spend time with your family and friends instead of negotiating your own health with these jerks? It's a waste of your time. Every other developed country has a way more efficient and affordable medical system for *identical treatment.* The US is the richest country in the world. We deserve that. You deserve that.
@@celisewillis You are basically saying you wouldn't be willing to get paid thousands of dollars just to make a few phone calls and send a few emails. I never said the system was perfect, it can and should be improved, but it isn't as bad as most people think. There are many other reasons why healthcare in japan is cheaper one of which is their tiny military. If they had to fully fund a military large enough to hold off china, they wouldn't be able to have such cheap medicine. You aren't making very good comparisons, we are the richest country, our treatments are better and we have more of them, we also fully fund a military with tax payer dollars that can protect every single ally we have, not a single ally of the us has been invaded since world war 2. Anyways many more people come to the us for medical treatments than they people who leave the us for treatment.
My wife is an internist at a TB hospital and particularly works with patients infected with antibiotic resistant TB. And since I take great interest in her work I have 2 messages that should be added here: 1) mass screening. The USSR was very limited in it's medical resources and sort of backwards in developing meds, however it successfully fought and pushed back TB by mandatory mass screenings. Children were tested in schools, adults in annual worker health tests. Doctors, militiamen and inmates were being screened twice as often. After the dissolution of the USSR the screening system became defunct and stayed that way over a decade which has lead to a massive rise in TB cases across the former soviet republics and some of Eastern Europe (now it's back under control). So mandatory mass screening is the way to go. 2) The 80s and 90s saw a wide and easy access to antibiotics. Many doctors would prescribe them left and right while many patients were never informed of the dangers of not sticking to the instructions. This lead to many antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria developing. That includes TB. So the lesson here is - don't use antibiotics anytime you're just slightly under the weather. Use antibiotic only if prescribed by a medical professional and take the FULL COURSE EVEN IF YOU GET BETTER SOONER!!! Otherwise next time you'll get in real trouble we won't have any meds that can help you.
Also don't ask for them if they aren't necessary. That's a big problem in the US - people want to use everything they can get their hands on to fight just a headcold, and they think antibiotics is going to help. A lot of doctors seem to cave to this kind of pressure and write prescriptions, but then people start feeling better and they chuck the prescription before the 10 or so days are up.
@@ShifterKeegan good thing. Could be it's gotten better here as well, I just remember a lot of people talking about this not long ago - maybe 10-20 years ago, so hopefully there's been enough education and doctors feel more empowered to be conservative when handing this stuff out now.
1. I'm from Indonesia, which according to this video is the hotbed of TB. To order mass screening will cost around 1 billion dollar. Each year. And that's just for the screening. Yes, I agree that the benefit are greater than the cost. But still, it's a big sum of money. Not to mention the specter of corruption that will come with that much money. 2. I don't see any way to make sure the antibiotics are consumed to the last dose except mandatory confinement. But, the difficulties is that will put a good chunk of population in confinement for several months. After what happened to covid, people is not in the mood for another confinement.
Interesting fact: tuberculosis (TB) is considered to be the "Great Mimicker" of many conditions, because some people who display symptoms of another disease, such as cancer of a certain part of the body, were ultimately diagnosed to have TB of that organ. Examples include gastrointestinal TB instead of colon cancer; pulmonary TB instead of fungal pneumonia, miliary TB instead of metastatic cancer, brain tuberculoma instead of brain metastases, TB arthritis instead of inflammatory arthritis, TB of the spine instead of spine metastases, genitourinary TB instead of kidney/bladder cancer, TB lymphadenitis (scrofula) instead of lymphoma, etc.
In Dr. Stone, they developed Sulfa antibiotics to cure the village priestess, for a second, they were scared that she had TB, and the cure they spent months on was for nothing, but suddenly, she got much worse, indicating that it was pneumonia, and the sulfa antibiotics were defeating the infection
TB was like "day one knowledge" when I grew up. Not because it was an active threat (we all had tuberculin skin tests), but because it killed so many important people in our history. Writers, poets, composers, when you learn about them it's so often "died of TB" "suffered and died from TB" etc .etc...
TB should probably still be called consumption. Just because I know I've read the term plenty of times as consumption and until I found out that TB = Consumption, I always thought of TB as a mild far away thing.
I research TB and NTMs (infections caused by bacteria in the same group of bacteria as TB, but they don't cause tuberculosis. Some cause lung infections like TB and others cause skin infections) and I'm so grateful for all of the awareness John has raised for these illnesses. It's insane that the #1 infectious killer now and of all time is so neglected
I am a survivor of TB, and I'm glad you guys made this video. It's good for me to know in more detailed what hit me a few years back, and also to educate people about this disease that could likely put you in a statistic
@@satyasankalpapanigrahi9416 it’s mainly 4 different drugs for normal TB but you need to take test and checks if it’s snot mdr or even worse xdr version . Mine was simple which the treatment lasted for 9 months I had lost weight from 65 to 45 kg I was made sure to continue taking drugs for 3 more months so there is no left over TB
Thank you so much for this video. I’m a TB specialist and TB affects the most vulnerable people in our society. People think TB is some Victorian, third world illness but it’s not. It’s in the US and it’s only getting more and more prevalent. Our funding was just cut and I don’t know what’s gonna happen. TB is completely curable, patients perk right up after just a few weeks of antibiotics and after 9 months disease free. The antibiotics used to treat TB are in short supply in the US sadly, and one antibiotic for multi-drug resistant TB is incredibly expensive.
"But, do you even know what we are talking about?" John, as soon as I heard your name i knew exactly what we were talking about and I'm invested already.
@@edwardliu111 John has worked with Partners in Health for years now and has been raising awareness of TB and promoted the fight for access to bedaquiline and genexpert tests for over a year now and helped start the TBfighters community
If you look at how many people commented and then look how they said one out of 10 people have it then a lot of people in this comment section actually have the white death
My maternal grandfather, born in 1939, was in the first wave of people in Canada to receive TB medication after it was approved for use on humans. At the time, they had just moved him into palliative care a day or two before, expecting that he was going to die. A huge portion of my family tree only exists because of those medications.
I loved the touch of one of the ducklings being dragged under the water by TB near the start, and then at the end TB being dragged under instead. Poetic.
As a medicine student in a country where Tuberculosis is really big deal, to the point where we have a TB Healthcare program that gives the medication for free to patients, this really shows a lot of the issues with how we treat and perceive TB patients themselves can be difficult since they sometimes just don't follow the instructions and forget to get medication or simply just do not care to do so fast enough. It's frustrating because TB is highly infectious and if we want to control it we need a lot of cooperation from patients as well as a Healthcare system that works as intended which it often doesn't. I am happy to see videos talking about this disease from you guys, raising awareness about these sorts of diseases really means a lot, it is really heartening so thank you very much.
I live in the US and when I got treated for latent TB I had to meet with a nurse who would watch me take the drugs because compliance is such a problem. I am now TB free because I got the care I needed, but a LOT of people aren't so lucky.
If people are too lazy to take the meds then it is hard to feel bad for them when they die of TB. Reminds me of all the Trumpers dying of COVID-19 while claiming government conspiracies and saying the vaccines were fake (or vaccines were more dangerous than the virus itself). Sometimes you just gotta step back and let Darwin/Nature take it's course.
Around 4 years ago I got so sick, and fighting for my life for 7 months. Turned out, I had TB. It started with a lung abscess, which was big and made my lung collapse. Unfortunately it was Corona time and I was in Egypt, no hospital would have me committed. My whole body was shutting down, lost 25 kilos in that time. And my health never got better, everything is exhausting. But I'm still alive.
If you want to learn more about tuberculosis and the folks working to fight it, check out the organization Partners in Health at pih.org/programs/tuberculosis
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@UTTPRichBitcoinman what the hell
nice
I'm a doctor in Kenya and I deal with TB every day. I find it incredulous when I'm involved in discussions of respiratory illnesses on an international level and it's primarily COPD, pneumonia or COVID when TB has been killing my people for decades with minimal innovation in the field. I really appreciate the awareness this video is bringing to the plight that plagues billions, particularly in Africa and Asia. Kudos to PIH for the work you do.
Keep up the good fight, doctor.
Kudos to YOU, for your work, much respect, just wanted so say that. I hope this video will raise awereness and help with the situation.
That's because there isn't enough money in it, unlike the covid, political & corporate scams which are responsible for the largest wealth transfer in history.
You're not a doctor stop pretending 😂
wishing you stength and a better response from the international community. Know that many of us want what you do but our leaders are too big, too far, and sometimes too corrupt for our wishes to be heard and actioned
Watching this with a chest infection is not good for the blood pressure
☠️🙏
Thought about testing for it? Just in case... Wouldn't be a problem if you caught the zombie virus since you already developed a cure for it.
YEP, I am not sharing this one with my gf with hypochondria that just leaved a covid infection
@@elpred0 yeah, save that one for later
oof
for a second at the start I thought steve was leaving
Thank god he's not leaving, he's the iconic voice of Kurzgesagt
Ok pedo
@UTTPRichBitcoinman yo drake one of yo shit missing
@@ThatInsaneGamer-hp4gh its probably just rage bait
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As a Doctor who specialises in Chest Disease and Tuberculosis, this is sucha great video. Thanks for spreading information guys
The white death being an alligator as a metaphor is fantastic. The slow predator, the lurker.
I thought it was a wolf💀
@@Niccolo-mt5pk😂 let's call it water wolf
@@Niccolo-mt5pk I thought it was a Finnish guy.
A patient killer, lying in wait for the perfect moment to strike, and when it does, it’s too late
@@KCCerealMe too. I'm Finnish btw :D
I'm just happy that finally someone addressed this ghost of a disease before I die. I fought for 3 years and now almost all the drugs are resistant for me. It turned into XDR or TDR they say. I don't know how much time I have left to be alive. Thank you so much John for speaking up.
Edit: I meant I'm still on drugs trying to fight with an additional antibiotic. But it might resist to the antibiotic as well. And the patient can survive 3-4 years last thing I read about it. So I appreciate the everyone but I'm still fighting. Thank you so much.
Oof I don't even have anything to say, just try to be happy and spend your time left well
I am so sorry to hear that, hope you make the best out of your final time here on earth and that you are grateful for the life you got ❤
I hope that even if you don't make it, your remaining time will be an amazing time.
Were proud of u for fighting!!!❤️❤️
thank you for your comment being so boring to the toddlers that they didn’t invade this comment
My microbiology professor said he believes the reason we're not freaking out over it is because the media doesnt bring it up on everyones radars and its a slower death so its not as shocking to people
It's a good thing that John speaks up about it as much as he can.
@UTTPRichBitcoinman reported
Yeah... Covid comes to mind
@@idk-ill-figure-smn-out woosh
Reminds me a little of the fear around nuclear power. People are afraid of it because they're afraid of another Chernobyl, when the reality is that we could have a meltdown akin to Chernobyl at least once every decade and it would still not kill as many people as coal plants do. And that's just counting the deaths directly resulting from living or working in or near the plant itself, not global warming.
"I'm real sorry for you, son. It's a hell of a thing."
You are tge only reference ive found
more people should play rdr2
How to make a Kurzgesagt video:
Step 1: Existential crisis
Step 2: Hope
Step 3: More existential crisis
‘Kurz gesagt in a nutshell’ in a nutshell💀💀
I like to think of it like this:
1. "Ok, here's how screwed we are."
2. "But wait, we can fix this."
3. "Just because we _can_ fix it, doesn't mean we _are_ fixing it, though."
Bro he animates like this by choice@alexthemovie
kurgesagt kurzgesagt
keep on reporting all the spam bots..
"4000 people died of TB, yesterday" is one hell of a statement
Too few for this overpopulated clown planet
It is almost the same number with diarrhea, however diarrhea can be combated with access to drinking water and basic sanitation, something that we should all have access to.
@@firestarter6039 Oh man. I love diarrhea. It's great.
4000 is too few in this overpopulated planet
@@Exodia_Misogynistdo you want to volunteer to leave the planet?
The crocodile analogy is really good.
A practiced and effective predator that has survived for a long time
And super stealthy too
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanbruh tf, it is wrong
@@dragonmoonwave Just report and move on, almost certainly a troll or bot
@UTTPRichBitcoinman reporting you again
@@dragonmoonwave bots have no sense of morality, just report it to hell
1:14 Holy that is one GOOD plague inc player
Hope doesnt evolve top many symptoms
My grandfather had tuberculosis at 84 years old and survived, he turned 89 in the 22nd of this month
God bless him. ❤
That's great
Doesn't bacteriophage work against tb.
congrats to ur grandpa!
Now that’s a real achievement for him! He also could have very possibly also been carrying it in its inactive state for many decades which could possibly have been for most of his lifetime!
i was diagnosed with TB 2 months ago. i was scared and thought i was going to die early. i was comforted by the nurse that TB is not scary anymore as it was before. i had panicked attacks and i was always scared every time i cough because of the blood. i lose weight and always feeling exhausted. 2 months into the medication and im slowly getting back to shape. sorry im not good in english.
edit: thank you for the hopes and prayers, i love you all.
I hope you get well soon and be free of TB.
@@joey070893 so appreciated thank you!
Best wishes to you! 🙏💕
Good luck!!
Get well soon.
Some context: in the Netherlands we swear with diseases a lot. I once got annoyed about something and swore with cancer. A friend of mine got angry about that and told me I shouldn't swear with cancer when there's a lot of people dying from it. I then checked if "tering" (tuberculosis) was okay, and he said yes.
I pointed out TB had killed a lot more people and he responded with "yeah but that was in the past, and cancer is still around"
It never ceases to amaze me how few people know TB is still killing so many people in our modern times.
I have lost many family members to cancer.
You have my full permission to use the word however you like. Your friend's opinion is...ahem...cancer. 😅
imo it's because it's mostly non existent in the "first world countries" aka white people, so it doesn't get much press
I never heard of it since the Victorian era
I figured it wasn't eradicated, but... There has to be some reason people were obsessed with it then and not now
Like 90% of Dutch swear words are horrible illnesses 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
I'm sorry, but this has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever heard of. I'm picturing someone dropping a pencil or something and going 'ah tuberculosis' I cannot stop laughing I am dying
But yeah, really strange how people think it's been eradicated when it's still so prevalent
At 0:16 it’s really nice to hear a voice usually talking in a 3rd person talk to another person in sort of a natural way makes me remember this is a real person and not just a random voice
As soon as he said John Green I immediately knew it was tuberculosis. It's amazing the effort he puts to raise awareness and fight back this horrible disease. I wish we had more people like him, or that we didn't have to. But my maddest respect for this incredible human being.
My grandmother’s brother had TB. He was treated at a sanatorium in Eddyville, KY. He came out clear, and lived another 20 or so years. No one has to go into sanatoriums anymore.
Actually tho
Man, bots are getting really strange.
I knew it was TB at the title and expect a cameo, and I was right lol. See Mr green's videos alot
@@Joshua-gt7pz Yup, genuinely having a difficult time figuring out what the endgame of those bots is.
I caught TB and I live in France (Paris).
I still remember that the worse part was not the coughing or the fever but the loss of appetite.
I kept this disease for more than 6-7 months until I got cured.
I went to see doctors because I didn't know what was happening to me, I thought first it was flu and the doctors thought so as well.
For multiple months, nobody could diagnostic what I had and I described the symptoms : cough, fever, loss of appetite, cold sweat (I lost 15kg by the time I was cured).
It's until I got to the hospital when they gave me an X-ray radiography and you could see how big it was in my lung.
This disease is still underestimated these days, because people think that's not something that you can caught in western countries.
You should still be afraid of this shit, way more than being afraid to get COVID.
EDIT : English is not my first language so I may have some typo/grammatical errors.
I read that pretty well. did well for someone who doesn't speak english.
i am so scared now...
Because of migration crisis in Europe tube will become a significant threat even in the west i guess.
You can caught where people in western countries is.
With all the migration and traveling going on in this day and age, this should get talked about more. Especially in Europe, where populations get older, including doctors, and the knowledge they learned at the beginning of their long careers may not reflect the situation an more.
My friend Arthur Morgan recently passed from this - he was taken from us too soon because of TB. Thank you for spreading awareness about this disease. RIP.
He was a good man, he gave it all had
Oh wow, you knew him too? Ah, suppose it's not all that surprising. He had a rough upbringing and was by no means perfect, but he was really turning things around. Does my heart some good to know he had an impact on others as well.
Second deadliest disease almost surpassing lumbago
He died in a shed just like his daddy
I don't know why I thought about that character from Red Dead Redemption, but I am sorry for your loss.
I’ve had a bad cough for like 10 days and now my anxiety is making my brain go “AHH YOU HAVE THIS WEIRD DISEASE!! AHHHH HELP” 😭
SAME 😭😭😭 pray that we'll be ok 🙏 hope ur cough is gone now tho
@@katexasmo739 Lol ya 👌✨
Rest in peace 😢😢
“We didn’t do a good job of distribution” made a major impact.
That is the exact reason why around half of all diseases maybe even more still exist
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This is true for a lot of resources. Food, housing, etc. We have more than enough of everything, but have decided to let some people hoard it rather than distribute it among ourselves.
It made the third impact
I lost my friend from TB. The bacteria has reached his brain, causing meningitis.
Last time he said that he just had the flu, before he collapsed at work and was brought to the hospital. He was in a coma for a week.
It happened too fast.
😢😢😢
Sorry for your loss.
sorry for your loss man 😔 😟.
sorry for your loss
We had treatment therapies which began to work on suppression at a population-level of contagion.
TB should have become a trivial risk today. As I have been drawn to understand, sloppy - on a global level - application of effective treatments, was the major point of failure.
Say it ain't so?
TB almost got my father, he barely escape death as he was being bedridden for weeks. Then a year later his aorta ripped, but he again he defied the 10% survival odds with a lucky clot. Now just had a throat cancer removed (likely from the TB damage) and is recovering from the radiation and chemotherapy. He is the most stubborn man I know and I couldn't be more proud of him!
Omg, glad to hear he is still kicking the odds. Death doesn’t come for him, when he’s ready he’ll come for death. We love a stubborn dude.
@JonoFunk bro has beef with the grim reaper 💀
bro is filled with determination
ur dad might have pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, tell ur dad to meet ms Ann T. Disestablishmentarianism so she can give ur dad ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid or dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT) to remove it. she can also help with pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism and sphenopalatineganglioneuralgia so u wont be floccinaucinihilipilification. and also she has some grandfathers-in-law incase anything goes wrong, and also will definitely make u supercalifragilisticexpialidocious up-to-the-minute since johnnies-come-lately
Congrats to your dad!
My grandma and mum have had TB. They now have marks on one of their lungs whenever they get an xray, but I don't mind it at all. I'm so glad they survived.
I recently did a test for TB for university placements. My sister did in the year before and she got a negative. It was just paperwork to me. To my shock though, I got a positive and in reality I have latent TB. Learning about it can be isolating, especially in a country like Australia where I was born or raised where you never hear anything about it. I'm with Mr Green and am very thankful to this channel. So many people were just as ignorant as me about it and it's massive impacts on society even today in 2024. I'm planning on doing the medications later this year. Wish me luck!
Good luck! Don't postpone it until it becomes an emergency.
I hope you get rid of it quickly ♥️
@@YavorYanakiev Thank you! As I have a busy uni year, I'm waiting until the 4 month break starts in November to take it (it needs huge commitment as you have to take meds for 4 months). Hopefully I don't contract the active form by then!
@@lbell9695Do you watch Vlogbrothers? John has discussed TB there for probably over a year now (not every week tho). If you don't, you might like hearing what has been achieved in fighting TB in just the last few years. John is also writing a book on TB, but I it doesn't have a release date yet I think. Maybe next year?
I just took a test for the same reason! Good luck bro.
Its about to get a rude awakening when your the one with the element of surprise.
My mom survived Tuberculosis when she was 17. Later she started working in a specialized hospital that treats patients with tb
that sounds like me wanting to be a dermatologist
Your mother not only revenged, but also avenged.
@@LightScratcher True tho!
Congrats! 🎉
@@WesleyGotThis Thanks!
3 unavoidable things in life
death
taxes
having an existential crisis over a kurzgesagt video
true (i got it)
Agreed, as someone who had some form of pain in my lungs this morning I am in fear.
But hey this gives me a reason to not be so social!!
Pfff you don’t have to pay tax lol 😂 brainwashed 9 to 5 job worker
You're so brainwashed by society, humans are apes. We aren’t machines who serve overlords who wear big fancy wings. Tax is evil and you being punished for not paying it is satanic
Hopefully we can reverse aging soon so death is avoidable someday
As a nerdfighter, when I saw the title I thought "I wonder if John knows about this". Well, he definitely does! So happy to see more people aware
"Aww, how cute, they gave John Green his very own birdsona"
OH, that's a whole-ass man.
@alexthemovie okay, but this isn’t gonna promote your content easily. You should just make more vids.
@alexthemovie Ah another comment spammer. At least you're not telling someone to go kill themselves, but begone
keep on reporting all the spam bots and do not respond to them.
@@peacejoylove4118 ok
@alexthemovieokay but i don't care
John Green is going to personally eliminate TB, and I'm here for it.
Same, godspeed to him
isnt malaria the most deadly disease?
@alexthemovienice joke
Kills so many ppl it has a hard time spreading, etc
Didn't expect to see you here, can't wait for another 2 hour banger on a topic that I never thought I'd actually be interested in
I dated someone who was a son of a US diplomat and he had lived in Singapore before he moved back to the US. He told me he has TB in his blood but it's "dormant." I was a bit jolted by the revelation but he assumed me as long as he wasn't coughing blood or anything, I was good. This was over 20 years ago. I hope TB is eradicated soon. 4000 people daily is too many.
I had it as a child. I still test positive on every screen
I had it a month before covid started , took me 1 year to fully recover .😢 My weight went from 65 to 45 kg.
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanImmature
@@timppasaunoo3582 Did you report them?
Ok Sherri thanks for sharing that with us
The fact that TB can be cured with a four-month regimen is a huge relief, but it's frustrating that so many people still suffer due to a lack of resources and awareness.
I lost my mother to TB this year. She was 54. We're in Europe. She had all the antibiotics available and administered to her, and it wasn't enough. TB is still very much a deadly and dangerous foe, even if you have the meds to fight it. Fingers crossed for a better future.
Keep it up bro. God bless. ❤
Yeah, sadly as the example shown, our immune system goes crazy and kills us before the medicine can do it's thing.
My condolences friend ❤
It is all due to human selfishness. Drugs are not distributed to poorer countries, leading the disease to infect more and evolve. After a while, it spreads to developed nations and everyone is worse off because people are selfish. The exact same thing happened with covid vaccines. We will keep getting new and worse diseases while people don't realize that a disease in a poor country is an epidemic or pandemic waiting to happen in the entire world. We need global efforts to give free access to medicine for every country in the world. We will not solve diseases if people can't afford treatment and spread them everywhere.
I'm so very sorry for your loss!
Got diagnosed with it a year ago, completely out of the blue. Two weeks of 40+ fever, four weeks isolated hospitalization, lost 15kg, and still recovering. Cannot recommend, 3 out of 5 stars, and that's only because of the drugs and being blessed with living in the EU.
5 out of 5 for your attitude. Hope you see a full recovery soon.
15kg of weight loss...tell me more
@@Dan-bv3mfIts not worth it dawg
more like being cursed with living in the eu
You can do the same thing without TBC by eating less @@Dan-bv3mf
I am watching this while mourning for a friend who passed away by TB. As a person looking for going into medical, this is helpful knowlrdge.
I'm so sorry for your loss
I am so sorry for your loss. What happened, before they passed? If you don't mind me asking, I am currently fighting the disease, so I am a little curious
I am sorry for your loss
Best of luck to you‼️@@theleshan
My condolences
Maybe let yourself be tested for tb incase he/she/it infected you it would be a shame
I love the way he draws tuberculosis
Currently fighting this disease. Got it in February, completing my dose in like 2 months. It sucks.
At the onset, I woke up at 4am unable to breathe. I had to gasp hard and deep to get some air in. Went to the hospital, quickly got oxygenated. Then they did some tests. Confirmed I had it, then started medication soon after. Been feeling better since then. It was scary though.
2 months' Update: finished my medication. TB Free at last! Thank you all for the kind words.
Must be rough.
Good luck, wishing you the best
I hope you continue to improve- it sounds frightening.
You're a good man the leshan morgan a good man.
Oi lad goodluck stay strong 💪
Nah you’d win
As soon as you see the words "disease" and "John Green" you know it's gonna be about TB. Man picked the biggest villain out there to be his arch nemesis.
exactly my thought. clicked on the video with no idea what disease it was about, but as soon as john green was called over to speak, i had my bets on TB xD
Yeah, health terrorism works well...
It's OUR arch nemesis. All of ours. I wish I could do something about it.
I thought it was gonna be cancer
@@adamk.7177… it’s 100% curable & there’s a vaccine for it. My mom had it years ago & she got cured of it after spending 2 months in the hospital undergoing treatment for it. there’s nothing to be worried about this disease
Hello! I'm a medical student from Italy and wanted to say just one more thing: when a patient results positive to immunological tests but shows no signs of active tubercolosis (a condition defined as latent TB infection), there's the possibility to be treated with a chemoprophilaxis which is essentially an antibiotic treatment similar to the one for active TB (usually two drugs instead of four). I don't know how it works in your countries, but look it up if you're ever in need! It helps reducing the probability of a future reactivation!
Thank you for the info
Grazie, non lo sapevo!
Wow non lo sapevo molto interessante
I'm looking into this now. I have latent TB and recently had an organ transplant, which bodes ill considering the immune-suppressing medication I have to take to maintain my transplant.
I need to look into this for my ex wife. She was exposed to TB and has a positive test because of it with it dormant, but a ticking time bomb considering that she's a smoker. Don't know if insurance here in the US will cover it now, though.
ok but can we talk about how absolutely terrifying the artists of kurz made TB? a fantastic job! the visuals and art never cease to amaze me...
I caught this in December last year. The scary part was it was not showing up on sputum tests or others. Then I underwent a bronchoscopy and TB was diagnosed. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. Pray for my recovery.
Get well soon
hope you get better soon 🙏
get well soon
Hey man i also got TB before and fully recovered, i remembered the hard day to day that i need to pass it's painful. But you will get there as long as you take the medicine regularly, you can do it
Praying, hope it goes well for you!
My dad worked in a TB research lab back in the 70's and 80s. It was an outbuilding far away from the research hospital it was part of. When it finally closed down, they poured accelerant all through it and burned it *multiple* times, knocked it down, salted the earth with chemicals it and then buried it under concrete just to be sure. That sh*t is seriously hard to kill.
Overkill
Nuking a site from orbit is the only way to be truly sure...
@KAIYFGA32Wow you don’t even know why your content is better. It probably isn’t.
Damn
/mute @KAIYFGA32
My mother almost died two years ago from latent TB that she thought she overcame in Mexico as a child, where she grew up. Evidently, it came back with a vengence 30 years later; and in addition to causing pulmonary symptoms, however, it attacked her spinal fluid and caused meningitis. The inflammation got so severe so quickly that it paralyzed the gut nerves connected to the vertibrae where the inflammation was the worst, leading to much poorer digestive function.
Between the exceptionally powerful antibiotic regiment she took to kill the TB and the damage it did to her gut nerves, the doctors she saw only gave her a few months to live on her own. They said she would likely slowly starve to death as her digestive system could no longer process anything more complex than a simple sugar. A nutrient IV would postpone it, but that is incredibly expensive and the American Healthcare system is kinda rigged.
Things were looking pretty grim for a while, but she actually found salvation in gut microbiome transplants and smoothies. She still has to puree any solid food before she eats it to avoid indigestion and has to completely avoid fast food, but she is no longer critically malnourished.
Thanks, Kurzgesagt for making a video on this. Here in the developed countries it's easy to take TB for granted, but it is still a monster humanity should not forget exists.
I'm so glad that grim outlook in the first half diminished greatly, perhaps get her some cybernetics that the billionaires used back in the 2024 days in secret, when they do become cheap, lol.
Oh god, hearing a story of a crazy survival from TB really woke up for me that TB, is more than just a slow killer, it's death itself. Also I feel horrible for you and your mother.
I think for the medical systems its BETTER to be pessimistic and then the patient survives longer and family is happy ; THAN being optimistic and the patient dies and family gets angry.
Microbiome transplant. Fascinating. Search for the Ketogenic Diet. It might help your mom if she ever relapses. (I hope not). All bacteria feed on sugars and carbs, TB probably too. Also check out phage therapy. Perfect to killing bacteria that can't be easily killed by antibiotics
@@lbell9695 do some research on keto and phage therapy. Those might be useful tools to have in your armament against bacteria
At least this guy's uplifting voice helped me feel good about the subject
I worked with a Canadian guy who caught TB when he was in his late 20s. Before he got sick he was a competitive bodybuilder. I saw photos of him from those days and he was HUGE, a massive man with the biggest muscles all over his body. I couldn’t believe it was the same person because when I met him he was as scrawny as a scarecrow. He said the disease consumed his body like it was eating breakfast. Even after being fully cured he couldn’t put on muscle again.
Why it was called consumption.
Yup that's one of the observations I've had too. And still doctors haven't figured why it happens
@@ExileCestusyes they do it’s all very clearly documented medical science
Tell him to try steroids that will help him put on muscle.
maybe he can try and build a little body fat so he can start again you can't build muscle without saved up energy to burn it takes a lot of power
I just finished school to be an EMT and if there is one thing they emphasize, it's how scary TB is and the importance of safety. To quote my instructor, "people think that car accidents and fires are the scary calls to go on, but if you follow the rules, you're safe. Tuberculosis and Meningitis are the two scariest calls you can go on. Wear gloves and masks and get tested."
That is simply not true. As a TB-specialist I can assure you that wearing an FFP2/N95-mask protects you "100%". It takes very intesive (e.g. when you intubate a person) or long lasting (>8 hours) UNPROTECTED contacts to get infected. And even then only 10% of those at risk acquire the infection. And of those infected only 5% get sick in their lifetime. In Western Europe it is easy to treat TB - the high number of deaths happen elsewhere in the world. The hard thing is to think of TB as a differential diagnosis even in parts of the world where it has become rare - like in the Netherlands. And if you, as an EMT, a notified in advance of a possible TB case (in my experience from Germany a false report most of the time) you should not worry at all as long as you wear a mask. Even gloves can be omitted.
Wdym "call"?
Had a TB patient in my high school some months ago and the school didn't even send students home
And the School nurse refused to hand out masks saying "It's not infectious through air"
@anshumankakralia7542
First responder lingo for a job
@@이름-w8l7n bruh, a quick google search shows that the nurse was wrong... wow
New fear unlocked: breathing
why does everything on earth suck (not everything, i’m on antidepressants please don’t give me the rant)
Lmao mood! I’m like “hold my breathe, hold my breathe”
@@MichaelAndIchaelimma give u the rant.
Nah u right this sucks
@@tropheusanims698 incredible speech
@@MichaelAndIchael Thank you Thank you 👍
5:10 Is this why Arthur morgan looks so sleep deprived
I thought I was the only one thinking about Arthur while watching
🤠
"Killing to slowly for our attention span" that one describes our behaviour with a lot of problems in our society
fr
It concerns humanity, not just 'our society'
*too
Also well said, and by our society I think they mean modern global societies which includes how all of our voters and governments react to slow threats
True.
Doesn't help that political terms around the world are rarely longer than 5 years and parties mainly focus on short term stuff they can score with...
Also, the fact that an industry driven by profit has not much incentive to eradicate a disease completely with a cure they spent billions in research for.
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but some things like health should definitely not be an asset in the stock market...
I like how he mentions climate change. There are a lot of people I know in my personal life that believe climate change is made up by the government in order for us to change our lives.
I Contracted Tuberculosis in early 2020, 'Dodging' most of the ensuing pandemic on account of being bedridden and I was stuck that way for 9 months. It attacked my body first, atrophying my muscles, eating away at me... then it attacked my mind, suffocating my will to live, to get up and do literally anything. My legs no longer moved the right way, I couldn't walk, I threw up whatever I ate or drank slowly withering away. It's no wonder they called it Consumption. I still have nerve damage in my feet making it difficult to balance or run. This disease is horrible, I do consider myself EXTREMELY lucky to have made it through and largely that's simply due to my ability to access the right treatments. I Implore you that IF YOU CAN, for the people who aren't as lucky as me, find some way to contribute to more broadly accessible treatment so that no-one has to go through that in our future
keep on reporting all the spam bots
what do you do to contribute? Any recommendations?
@alexthemovie no life
@@denusklausen3685probably donate to the right causes, that’s as much as you could do. You could also help raise awareness so figures in a better place could donate too
Hope you recover and get back atleast to a good state !
In 2018 I survived TB, I was 29 years old, I had headaches, temperature and night sweats for months before I knew I had the disease. I eventually coughed and vomited blood and that's when I went to the doctor. The disease was detected through a bronchoscopy.
Gods got something for you
@@BLACKMENFORTRUMP nope, it's thanks to modern science :)
Oh boy. Can’t imagine not going to the doctor after months of those symptoms. What was the reason for you not going to the doctor that long if I may ask?
@@User-gd5un
Just stubbornness, I don't usually go to the doctor or get routine checkups. It was until I felt a lot of pain in my chest due to a constant cough that I decided to go to the doctor.
I got it at 6, drank bad-tasting medicine for a year, and feel lucky later that it was a treatable stain then. All I lost were the lymph nodes in my my neck and a year of school.
Very nice video. Mycobacterium tuberculosis is the most dangerous bacteria in existence and I appreciate that you spread information on this matter.
I'd like to contest that Mycobacterium tuberculosis haunted humanity like no other bacteria though, since Staphylococus aureus and Helicobacter pylori are strong contenders for this title. Luckily they are not as deadly as the White Death .... yet.
Tuberculosis killed my great grandmother and is still a melancholy subject in our family. My grandmother recalled how as a young girl she was not permitted to visit when her mother was sent to the hospital. She could only wave to her mother through the hospital window. She never got to hug her mother before she passed. Even though it was for my grandmother's own protection, the memory pained her her whole life.
I hope you are able to give your grandmother a hug on her mother's behalf whenever possible.
god damn that is painful memory
It's the same story in our family. My condolences. This video made me sad but also hopeful.
@@asmalldragon Grandmothers are so precious. Please hug them and let them know you love them
Grandma got TB during WWII, almost killed her. She had fever for years as a child and was left with permanent lung damage.
My grandma too, her father died of it in 1943, but luckily she was cured, but had to have regular x-rays controls
My grandma too. She caught it as a child. The people running the orphanage didn’t notice. It was bad, then better. Then as a adult it got bad again, while she was living in the Congo. She had to live with just one working lung. An infection of the airways killed her in the end. By then dementia had already caught up on her. She lived a full life.
YEARS?!….Jesus
John's voice evokes emotion, I was on the verge of crying when he said "4000 people died of TB, yesterday".
REAL! I was about to BURST into tears
To me, his voice makes me stop listening. I had to rewind at several points in the video because I realised I had stopped listening.
@@xyz7572Okay?
Same here. And I'm an effing smoker 😑
My sister and older cousin had tb but they were treated and there still here with me and I’m thankful for that
9:40 wow that hits way harder than saying a day
True
I found out I had TB when I got checked at the VA Hospital after getting out of the Army. Found out I got it when on a NATO mission back in 2015 in Eastern Europe. Although currently dormant, I still have it and am able to get treatment but can't due to current medications that would cause severe problems to the rest of my body. Every year I need to get x-rayed and have blood drawn to see if my TB is no longer dormant and has become active. It's a scary feeling knowing you have TB. Every time you cough, don't feel good, have chest pressure, anything really, makes you paranoid that your TB has become active. You have to disclose that you have TB Everytime you go to a clinic or hospital and doctors and nurses are nervous to get near you and always wear high protection masks even before covid even for basic checkups. I have 3 children and a wife and am always scared I will spread the TB to them as well. All around it's a physical and mental nightmare for me and it's not even active TB...
Damn that's rough. I wouldn't be able to handle that pressure, glad that you are coping with it somehow
You aren't alone and you have other things to be grateful for. Try and allocate asich time thinking about those good things as you do to your problems in a day. It will help keep you from having only negative thoughts
Eastern Europe also has the claim to fame for being the last part of Europe to really have rabies.
I had TB when I was 6 years old, more than 60 years ago. Mom told me I would always have it, it isn't dormant but can be if my health deteriorates. I had to be X-rayed every 2 years and was told not to take any TB tests/shots at school since I would always be positive. My grandmother had it a few years before I was born and had to go to a sanitorium but I didn't due to medicine. She lost the use of 1 lung (she lived 40+ years without it) and continued to smoke. I never knew her as a non-smoker (died at age 93). I never worry about it. When it's my time, I'm gone. I hope you will ask Jesus into your heart if you haven't already. With HIM, your life outlook will change. Guaranteed!
@@OscarOSullivan Our fight with rabies is still ongoing. TB was defeated almost half a century ago with mandatory vaccinating of children. Well for our population it was defeated. Now we just might be immune carriers.
This reminds me of an old game strategy in Plague Inc. Specifically where you would max infection rate but have zero severity and lethality UNTIL everyone was infected
One of my favorite games ever. There's a pop up called "more infectious than TB" and to me, this one feels weirdly more dangerous and threatening as the other pop ups
It’s a great strat tbh. Especially for bacteria. Bioweapon wants severity though for the dna points.
Me when playing Plague Inc (just be infectious, no need to show yourself, yet)
Yes indeed😊
Well this was terrfying. I am terrified now
Living in India, i see cases of TB every single day.
As a radiologist, the exposure to reporting cases of TB is so common, that some days this is the only disease I see in a day.
That is scary i wonder if India already has a TB vaccination program
That's a unfortunate thing. Please, please, stay and be safe!
You're a radiologist dude... You run the x ray You don't see shit😂😂😂
Lol
@@TheinternetArchaeologist One of many things to diagnose TB is RTG of the chest - you may see shit, moreover, the doctors make description of RTG and MRI leave you these with CD to send this information further to local sanitary stations. Even if you don't do RTG's and you're just an assisstant, you hear and read shit.
TB survivor here, got it when i was 12 years old and the relapsed when i was 22 years old, both of the times i must did 6 months long of treatment of consuming medicines in the exact same time everyday, thank goodness i recover quickly and i can going on my day again
I was vaccinated twice. As a newborn and age 8. As an adult the risk reward ratio is too high but for Kids it is really helpful. They stopped vaccinating kids bc the disease is rare now in my country, but with worldwide travel ot seems awedully short sighted.
I'm very glad you got cured.
This disease is very bad..
I got abdominal tb at 14. At 18 i suddenly got weight loss,blood in stool etc. Now im 22 still struggling. I didnt even got duagnosed properly...😢😢😢
Worst condition im now.
Dont know if i have, ibs,ibd or crohns ,colitis ,etc
But symptoms are just worse man.
Cant eat anything good.
@@i.b.640Open borders help spread this condition.
Me too. Tested positive twice. Second time I got it, it got me released from boot camp, had to take antibiotics for a year again, couldn’t stay on base, but I could come back but I never did. So far so good, seems gone.
I'm glad I found this. One if my relatives caught this years ago (Nigerian speaking), he isn't joking when he said "You turn into a ghost version of yourself" We blamed it on his smoking, I feel bad for the shunning he must have received at the time. Glad to know more about it. Thanks Kurzegesagt.
lol
how is this posted 18 hour ago
18 HOURS AGO????
guys dont interact with the bots, just report and move on
he was 4 parallel dimensions ahead of kurtz
Arthur Morgan made me raise TBC awareness
My great-grandmother died of TB. My grandpa made it his mission to eradicate TB and dedicated all his life to it. He helped many people but I think he knew that he didn't succeed in his lifetime. I hope one day soon TB will be a horrible memory of the past and no longer something we have to live with in the present or future.
i agree
Man..
A slow problem can be the worst because humans don’t see it as an immediate threat and don’t stop it.
it also means it can spread more before being spotted
I imagine that our slow attention span is why the concept of accelerationalism became a thing. When devoted political forces feel that we aren't paying attention to an issue they feel is urgent, extremists then usually seek to accelerate the problems so that the general populace may finally notice the issue and take action before it's "too late".
I agree
Yes, just ask the oil companies.
Even admitted to knowingly doing wrong but that nobody would notice so they lied for decades.
The problem can be "worse".
“There wasn’t enough profit incentive” will be humanity’s epitaph.
that or capitalism's
Sadly... Yes
Gotta love capitalism and it's dominant sibling fascism.
@@HerveMaas What planet are you from? All the fascists states have come from Socialism...
@@HerveMaassure buddy
@@pamplemoo”Sure buddy” 😂
I was hoping for an Arthur Morgan reference..
"Our friend John Greene..."
Oh, it's gonna be Tuberculosis.
I called it just from the title.
That was also my first thought. “Oh yay, the tuberculosis episode”
Lol
What's the relation between him and TB?
@drakolax John Green is a major advocate of access to TB treatment, and spreading awareness of TB's spread, and lack of equal access to treatment, is one of his personal missions.
As a kid, I remember reading about "the consumption" - which is a pretty apt descriptor for how tuberculosis chips away at your health and life if untreated. It's presence is still seen in older media, with things like cowboys spitting at people being a huge deal, since it was illegal in lots of places because of how easily tuberculosis can spread through saliva, or how Dracula described vampires' victims in detail that matches the victims of TB. It irks me that we could have eradicated it but then basically shrugged our shoulders and went, "eh, good enough." 😒 My hope is that one day the only way tuberculosis has an impact on people is through history or media such as literature or movies.
Yeah, that's how I originally read about it too, "consumption", and MAN that's a creepy name. One we don't use so much anymore, unfortunately. I remember, one time I was watching a Let's Play of "Oregon Trail 2" here on UA-cam (yes, there's an Oregon Trail 2, and it's WAY deadlier and more detailed than the first one) and at one point, somebody in the wagon party got sick, and when you talk to people to try to figure out what's going on, one lady is like "Oh, I think he's come down with the consumption!"
"Consumption?" said the confused modern UA-camr. "Wait, do you mean like, he ATE too much? Eating? Is that what that is?"
Oh. Oh honey no. No.
YOU'RE not the one consumING...
It would be cool if tuberculosis and covid would merge and become a supervirus.
My father had a positive tubercolosis results a week ago. He was healthy, I can even claim that helthier than me. Disease started rapidly, 2 weeks and he basically can't normaly walk, and at this point most of his lungs are affected by it. Thanks for explaining to me why it happens this way, and all, please stay safe!
My prayers for your father’s health and that of your family. Best wishes from an internet stranger.
Prayers for him and my dad too had it but it was cured with proper treatment
This video is very helpful and helps me be aware of bacterial pathogens and infections and it taught me that microbes that reproduce slowly can be very stealthy and deadly.
The white crocodile was a really brilliant analogy
My uncle died of TB in the US 20 years ago, and until watching this video, I never realized how senseless and preventable that was.
what, in 2004? Were they otherwise immunocompromised?
@@gmonkmanit was probably drug resistant. It’s more likely it was drug resistant if he got it from another hospital patient too.
@@gmonkmanalso, back then medical providers didn’t routinely screen for drug resistant TB. Patients were given a full course of antibiotics for regular TB that just wouldn’t kill the resistant bacteria. Plus, the drugs necessary for drug resistant TB were very expensive, and still are, although it’s gotten better thanks to organizations like Partners in Health.
Thanks for the follow on questions. My mom is a nurse and might know these answers. Worth asking about
9:51 "The white death has been with us for millions of years, its time to continue our jouney, without it." ✍️🔥🔥🔥
Chef John 🔥
bro almost cooked up a new vaccine 🙏
imperialism??
"Let's Stop Making Children- Wait You Are Talking About A Disease-"
Homo Sapiens have not been around for "millions of years" nor would we have survived as a species if it had been around in the olden times.
More lies from Bill Gates and his horde of demons.
Homo sapiens have only been around for 500 thousand years give or take a bit.
I love John Green’s work so much. I can’t wait to read his new tuberculosis book.
My nephew got TB as an infant. Everyone exposed to him had to get a skin test. He was in isolation in the hospital for a week. No one else had it. He's 29 now, healthy, handsome, and happy.
A friend of mine also got TB as an infant, it got worse and developed into TB Meningitis. The meningitis has given him some complications. He’s lucky to be alive.
Could we please hold on a minute to appreciate this amazing storytelling? Within minutes, I was scared to death, then full of hope, and then sad about all the losses in the past.
I've already seen others' losses and devastations, it's too depressing, I can't bear it
as a med lab scientist dealing with samples with TB thank you for making this video, we need more awareness
I misread this as meth lab.
Thank you for your work
Wow. People come here from all corners of society!
How's the work going?
ayy, my fellow lab tech
@@ghengilharI misread it as Mad lad 😆
I work as an ER nurse in a level one facility in a province in The Philippines. We get at least 5 newly confirmed Pulmonary TB every week. Yeah.
And yes, I also have it, and did my time of having it treated 3 years ago.
in the 80s and 90s there was an institution in Türkiye called the Fight the TB Foundation. Whenever you applied for a job,it was mandatory to go there to have an X-ray taken and get a clean sheet. In occupations that handle food, you had to repeat this every 6 months. How we forget these things is incredible...
Post modernizm ve post truth'ın bol sosyal çürüme soslu çağı
soft times make forgetful people. forgetful of the past and precautions.
I am from Indonesia.
And 3 of my extended families dies of TB.
1 Adult of 30-ish years and 2 elders of 50-ish years, and it was all from 1 household.
Those was 2 parents and 1 child, they are a family of 2 parents, 5 children, 2 of the children's spouse and 2 grandchildren, they all shared a medium sized house of questionable conditions, as Rent is quite high.
I do believe the whole family is infected with TB but are in the dormant state, sometimes I too get paranoid about it when experiencing bad cough, either from Covid, common cold, or from my allergies and asthma, almost everyone in the extended family have quite a lengthy contacts with the "TB" Infected family.
Maybe I'll get screened for TB once in a while, although we have an even scarier risk we are forced to live with...
It's named "ASBESTOS", it's everywhere in Indonesia, most houses use it as ceiling materials, because they are cheaper and people are unaware of the dangers. Worse yet, the asbestos conditions in most of the houses are in deteriorating conditions, either cracked or broken completely from previous earthquakes which is quite common in my country.
Ahh. Sorry for your loss. I hope your family will be alright.
im sorry for that bro. i hope u get better
My family is from Indonesia but they moved to America when they were young. My sisters and I were born in America. My mom got sick with a fever the second we visited Indonesia and I felt so bad because I was the only one wearing a mask. I always clean everything if I can. I hope your family stays safe and healthy! We learn about asbestos in school and I'm so sorry to hear that. Also, I'm sorry for your loss 🕊️ may they rest in peace.
Bad luck dude
Unfortunately due to the prohibitive cost of healthcare of the United States, getting that treatment costs tens of thousands of dollars alone; god forbid you have to stay any stretch of time in a hospital for that treatment period. If the disease doesn't kill you then the sheer stress of the medical bills will.
It isn't really that bad in the us, you just have to ask for a lower bill and negotiate, and your bill will very quickly become much lower.
@@MegaLokopo you can ask for the bill to be itemized, at which point many insignificant costs may be removed because of how a hospital charge master works but ultimately if you end up having to spend a significant amount of time in a room or the ER your bill will be within the tens of thousands within a matter of days. A single ER visit cost my girlfriend 35k and there wasn't even an overnight stay. Merely seeing a doctor for 5 minutes costs upwards of 300. If you are wealthy you can afford this kind of thing easily but for the rest of us these are bills that will easily and immediately break the bank with little to no chance of financial recovery.
@@BowandSvent I have negotiated with hospitals to bring costs from as high as two hundred thousand dollars and change, down to five thousand and change. I have on other occasions had bills go down from two hundred dollars down to 10 dollars.
@@MegaLokopo even if that worked (it doesn't in most cases) you have to constantly call your hospital and 3 different departments of your insurance company, and send the same paperwork over and over.
The cost of treating tuberculosis with the exact same medicine in Japan is $35. As opposed to whatever the US hospital/insurance feels like charging.
Don't you think you deserve to spend time with your family and friends instead of negotiating your own health with these jerks? It's a waste of your time. Every other developed country has a way more efficient and affordable medical system for *identical treatment.* The US is the richest country in the world. We deserve that. You deserve that.
@@celisewillis You are basically saying you wouldn't be willing to get paid thousands of dollars just to make a few phone calls and send a few emails.
I never said the system was perfect, it can and should be improved, but it isn't as bad as most people think.
There are many other reasons why healthcare in japan is cheaper one of which is their tiny military. If they had to fully fund a military large enough to hold off china, they wouldn't be able to have such cheap medicine.
You aren't making very good comparisons, we are the richest country, our treatments are better and we have more of them, we also fully fund a military with tax payer dollars that can protect every single ally we have, not a single ally of the us has been invaded since world war 2. Anyways many more people come to the us for medical treatments than they people who leave the us for treatment.
Everyone else: OH MY ITS SO DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!
My stupid ahh self: THE WHITE DEATH LIKE THE BEST SNIPER OF ALL TIME???????
My wife is an internist at a TB hospital and particularly works with patients infected with antibiotic resistant TB. And since I take great interest in her work I have 2 messages that should be added here:
1) mass screening. The USSR was very limited in it's medical resources and sort of backwards in developing meds, however it successfully fought and pushed back TB by mandatory mass screenings. Children were tested in schools, adults in annual worker health tests. Doctors, militiamen and inmates were being screened twice as often. After the dissolution of the USSR the screening system became defunct and stayed that way over a decade which has lead to a massive rise in TB cases across the former soviet republics and some of Eastern Europe (now it's back under control). So mandatory mass screening is the way to go.
2) The 80s and 90s saw a wide and easy access to antibiotics. Many doctors would prescribe them left and right while many patients were never informed of the dangers of not sticking to the instructions. This lead to many antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria developing. That includes TB. So the lesson here is - don't use antibiotics anytime you're just slightly under the weather. Use antibiotic only if prescribed by a medical professional and take the FULL COURSE EVEN IF YOU GET BETTER SOONER!!! Otherwise next time you'll get in real trouble we won't have any meds that can help you.
Also don't ask for them if they aren't necessary. That's a big problem in the US - people want to use everything they can get their hands on to fight just a headcold, and they think antibiotics is going to help. A lot of doctors seem to cave to this kind of pressure and write prescriptions, but then people start feeling better and they chuck the prescription before the 10 or so days are up.
@@dvdmon in my country it has became incredibley rare for them to give antibiotics until you're in the hospital or despiretely need it
@@ShifterKeegan good thing. Could be it's gotten better here as well, I just remember a lot of people talking about this not long ago - maybe 10-20 years ago, so hopefully there's been enough education and doctors feel more empowered to be conservative when handing this stuff out now.
1. I'm from Indonesia, which according to this video is the hotbed of TB. To order mass screening will cost around 1 billion dollar. Each year. And that's just for the screening. Yes, I agree that the benefit are greater than the cost. But still, it's a big sum of money. Not to mention the specter of corruption that will come with that much money.
2. I don't see any way to make sure the antibiotics are consumed to the last dose except mandatory confinement. But, the difficulties is that will put a good chunk of population in confinement for several months. After what happened to covid, people is not in the mood for another confinement.
@@gorilladisco9108 2. So I suppose we'll wait until people are in the mood for confinement? I wonder what will trigger their mood.
Interesting fact: tuberculosis (TB) is considered to be the "Great Mimicker" of many conditions, because some people who display symptoms of another disease, such as cancer of a certain part of the body, were ultimately diagnosed to have TB of that organ.
Examples include gastrointestinal TB instead of colon cancer; pulmonary TB instead of fungal pneumonia, miliary TB instead of metastatic cancer, brain tuberculoma instead of brain metastases, TB arthritis instead of inflammatory arthritis, TB of the spine instead of spine metastases, genitourinary TB instead of kidney/bladder cancer, TB lymphadenitis (scrofula) instead of lymphoma, etc.
AMOGUS
Woah..
I’ll never sleep again.
In Dr. Stone, they developed Sulfa antibiotics to cure the village priestess, for a second, they were scared that she had TB, and the cure they spent months on was for nothing, but suddenly, she got much worse, indicating that it was pneumonia, and the sulfa antibiotics were defeating the infection
So in doubt make your doctor test for tb first before anything else
TB was like "day one knowledge" when I grew up. Not because it was an active threat (we all had tuberculin skin tests), but because it killed so many important people in our history. Writers, poets, composers, when you learn about them it's so often "died of TB" "suffered and died from TB" etc .etc...
TB should probably still be called consumption.
Just because I know I've read the term plenty of times as consumption and until I found out that TB = Consumption, I always thought of TB as a mild far away thing.
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@@_Leyaaa its a bot, its disgusting
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@@Warrior-fd7ofreported
I research TB and NTMs (infections caused by bacteria in the same group of bacteria as TB, but they don't cause tuberculosis. Some cause lung infections like TB and others cause skin infections) and I'm so grateful for all of the awareness John has raised for these illnesses. It's insane that the #1 infectious killer now and of all time is so neglected
0:02 dude, you can’t scare me like that
For real ☠️
@UTTPRichBitcoinman regardless of the law you should have a moral obligation to not fuck children
Not gonna lie you are kinda failure
@UTTPRichBitcoinman what are these comments
@UTTPRichBitcoinmanwhat are these comments
I am a survivor of TB, and I'm glad you guys made this video. It's good for me to know in more detailed what hit me a few years back, and also to educate people about this disease that could likely put you in a statistic
How did u survived, can u name of those drugs and therapy
@@satyasankalpapanigrahi9416 it’s mainly 4 different drugs for normal TB but you need to take test and checks if it’s snot mdr or even worse xdr version . Mine was simple which the treatment lasted for 9 months I had lost weight from 65 to 45 kg I was made sure to continue taking drugs for 3 more months so there is no left over TB
I surive TB too I just drank 4 antibiotics for 6 months.
@@meliocurie1809 how ...?
@@satyasankalpapanigrahi9416 a disease can be resistant against antibiotics or your immune system, not both.
Thank you so much for this video. I’m a TB specialist and TB affects the most vulnerable people in our society. People think TB is some Victorian, third world illness but it’s not. It’s in the US and it’s only getting more and more prevalent. Our funding was just cut and I don’t know what’s gonna happen.
TB is completely curable, patients perk right up after just a few weeks of antibiotics and after 9 months disease free. The antibiotics used to treat TB are in short supply in the US sadly, and one antibiotic for multi-drug resistant TB is incredibly expensive.
Oh no. Great. If it’s in the US, and there is a shortage for the vaccine, I’m screwed.
The UA-cam algorithm needs to do this video justice, it deserves to be among the top educational videos of all time on this site
"But, do you even know what we are talking about?"
John, as soon as I heard your name i knew exactly what we were talking about and I'm invested already.
Is John a known TB campaigner?
@@edwardliu111 A strong one. He is known to relate almost all historical events to tb and describe tb as his arch nemesis
@@edwardliu111 John has worked with Partners in Health for years now and has been raising awareness of TB and promoted the fight for access to bedaquiline and genexpert tests for over a year now and helped start the TBfighters community
@@srtxf lmao 🤣🤣
I'm a biochemist.
You had me in the first 30 seconds but when you mentioned the 1B figure I was like, ah yes.....
The little buggar himself.
John has a problem with embellishment.
@@freedomsglory1no, he doesn't.
If you look at how many people commented and then look how they said one out of 10 people have it then a lot of people in this comment section actually have the white death
@@freedomsglory1 John Green has an almost super-human ability for poetic-yet-accurate description. Watch your typos.
biochemist jokes suck
My maternal grandfather, born in 1939, was in the first wave of people in Canada to receive TB medication after it was approved for use on humans. At the time, they had just moved him into palliative care a day or two before, expecting that he was going to die.
A huge portion of my family tree only exists because of those medications.
Thanks for telling me about this, wouldn’t have known about it
I loved the touch of one of the ducklings being dragged under the water by TB near the start, and then at the end TB being dragged under instead. Poetic.
I loved how you tagged it as 'poetic' ~!
As a medicine student in a country where Tuberculosis is really big deal, to the point where we have a TB Healthcare program that gives the medication for free to patients, this really shows a lot of the issues with how we treat and perceive TB patients themselves can be difficult since they sometimes just don't follow the instructions and forget to get medication or simply just do not care to do so fast enough.
It's frustrating because TB is highly infectious and if we want to control it we need a lot of cooperation from patients as well as a Healthcare system that works as intended which it often doesn't.
I am happy to see videos talking about this disease from you guys, raising awareness about these sorts of diseases really means a lot, it is really heartening so thank you very much.
This is like 10x worse than COVID but people don't care for it as much, I hope that changes soon.
I live in the US and when I got treated for latent TB I had to meet with a nurse who would watch me take the drugs because compliance is such a problem. I am now TB free because I got the care I needed, but a LOT of people aren't so lucky.
No one cares dude
If people are too lazy to take the meds then it is hard to feel bad for them when they die of TB. Reminds me of all the Trumpers dying of COVID-19 while claiming government conspiracies and saying the vaccines were fake (or vaccines were more dangerous than the virus itself).
Sometimes you just gotta step back and let Darwin/Nature take it's course.
Question: Is it possible to cure latent TB? The video said that the little granules are really hard to stamp out.
Around 4 years ago I got so sick, and fighting for my life for 7 months. Turned out, I had TB. It started with a lung abscess, which was big and made my lung collapse. Unfortunately it was Corona time and I was in Egypt, no hospital would have me committed. My whole body was shutting down, lost 25 kilos in that time. And my health never got better, everything is exhausting. But I'm still alive.
Keep fighting my friend, there is so much to live for, even if the road is filled with obstacles.
You can do it!
@@MrMichalMalek thank you! Life has become even more precious, every moment counts!
@@Yoylekoso 💪😊 Thank you!
Slow and steady. Any progress at all is good progress, and it can take a long time, so allow yourself time to get better.
You got this!