Hoax or Hoka? Why do Hoka Shoes Look Like This?
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Hoka TenNine Boot Review - Hoka One One has become a very recognizable brand over the past few years because of the hubble heel. People claim Hoka make some of the best hiking boots best hiking shoes in the world. The majority of what they make are running shoes and trail running shoe. Could these be the best hiking boots hiding behind a big rear end? I cut one in half to find out what's inside and why Hoka make shoes with such a strange shape.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:28 Canva
1:41 Why Hoka?
2:27 Boot Info
3:32 Upper Info
4:01 Lining INfo
4:45 Construction
5:22 Insole
5:44 Outsole/Midsole
6:42 Hubble Butt
7:23 Cutting
8:31 Waterproof Test
9:08 Reveal
9:50 Analysis
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This man got in a car crash just to review this boot for us. What an absolute legend.
LOLOL!
Would really love to see you try a "regular" pair of Hokas as comparison. The price and Hubble thing are absurd compared to their other models, but Hoka One One makes excellent high-mileage running shoes for road or trail, and the flexibility and lightness of these are really designed with speed in mind.
Came to say the same thing, but uh yeah, you already got it for me 😂
Bump**
Agreed. in adddition my hokas have been incredibly durable as running shoes go.
I've got both the Bondi 7 and Clifton 7, and for what I paid, I would expect more. There's no proprietary foam, no tech, just a slab of foam. While it IS soft and comfortable, my concern was addressed precisely and exactly...they bottom out quickly and are disposable, especially when you consider that the main reason you bought them was for that stack and softness to begin with. That midsole only lasts a few months before they bottom out.
totally agree my hoka hiking waterproof boots have lasted a looooong time and keep getting more comfy as they wear.
I bought my first pair of Hokas last year. Wore them a year straight sometimes 7 days a week all day. I can still wear them. They don't look like they will last but they do. Best and most comfortable shoes I have owned.
Depends on the model.
Try Altra’s and you’ll trash those ugly, terrible shoes
"I'll cut them in half, and then a waterproof test, and then I'll take them hiking..."
I am disappointed that you did not go hiking in boots that were cut in half (as promised). Aside from this quibble, thank you for the outstanding review
😆
Yeah! I was thinking what? Did he buy two pairs of these things? Nah. He did the hiking test before he soaked and mutilated them I would surmise. LOL
😂😂😂
Maybe that’s why he only wore one 👀
I did a double take, when I heard it the first time
I think it would be cool to do some military standard issue boots and some after market ones that are regulation. Service members have always had to develop innovative ways to make they more comfortable.
They had started giving recruits RAT boots, but so many ended up breaking their toes from those boots, that they had to stop 😩😂 that was 2015, they no longer try to give them out to everyone. They’re clearly made for sandier terrain. Which didn’t go over well with the swampy parris island landscape. It’d be cool to see, despite already having seen what they’re made of when someone ran through them 🤣
I was going to suggest this! Great idea for a video, I agree. I've got some Danner Marine Expeditionary boots, super comfortable, but no idea how good the build is. I'd love to see how they compare to other military issue boots around the world or from NATO members??
Even in the 90’s we had 3 pairs of boots. Issued dress/inspection boots, issued jungle boots,or similar regulation aftermarket boots, then what we actually wore in the field, a good solid legit hiking boot. My dress boots sucked they were horrible, only wore them when absolutely had to. My jungle boots were comfy but not supportive enough for our loads. They actually caused a lot of injuries, I personally fractured my ankle in boot camp, and completed the grim reaper that way with an ankle brace. In the field I wore a great pair of Solomons, spray painted black to keep the chicken shit away. Our skipper didn’t care, we didn’t get injured, we were effective, and able to do our job.
@@-MaryPoppins- I wore a pair of old green jungles to run a CFT just for SnG. Fricking hurt my feet. I forgot how little cushioning they had compared to Bates etc.
@@c3aloha they were horrible, especially when not broken in or broken in wrong. Idk what idiot made the decision to switch, but we didn’t even make it a full cycle before everyone was back in the bates 😩🤣 girls going to medical for broken toes, coming back with a prescription for “NOT THOSE BOOTS” 💀
You'd be surprised how durable the midsoles are. Their running shoes last well into the 1000 mile range. Ultra marathoners are known to use Hoka's for their 100+ mile races.
I will stay with asics, nandi hi
I would argue that Hoka are fars from best in class in durability when it comes to their outsoles
@@rbaude27 Argument acknowledged but discarded.
@@cesardejeronimo8184 lmao
Rip
Maybe the "don't walk on stairs" advisory is due to the flared heel, which could be a hazard especially when going down a flight of stairs because that bulky heel may cause the wearer to misjudge where to place the foot. But when out on the trails, it looks like it's comfy and grippy enough
As long as you never have to cut across a slope. That sole would roll your ankle faster than a sushi chef could roll your.... Ya know... Sushi
That's absurd though. A shoe for boot that limits your ability or move and manouver??? In what way is that beneficial??
If it can make you fall down stairs , it can make you fall on the trail.
@@louisacapell to be fair regular boots already limit your ability to maneuver.
@@NateHardman or as long as the trail doesn't have stairs🤦
Are they good to wear out and about?
Adopt a completely unnatural heel strike running technique, buy expensive shoes to match unnatural running technique. Makes perfect sense!
Yep. I stick with Altra or Topo for running shoes with natural running in mind.
To wear shoes is a unnatural thing to do, so anything you do in a shoe is unnatural is that what you're trying to say?
@@gooby1945 We wear shoes to protect our feet.
As for our running, our bodies are designed to move in a specific way, so any unnatural running technique can and will screw up your spine, legs, and feet.
These are hikers, not runners, but definitely look terrible to run in
You're not supposed to run in these. There is a distinct difference in stride when you are walking compared to running.
The Finnish military recently upgraded their leather military boots Jalas sa m05 and are basically leather and rubber. Could be interesting to check out
I have planters foot, this boot significantly reduces the pain. I only wear them when I'm doing lawn work. I've been on my roof cleaning gutters and have driven wearing the boot. I haven't experienced any issues while doing those activities. To be honest, I wasn't aware there was a disclaimer about using stairs and driving. The boot is expensive but priceless to me because of my planters foot.
Know what you mean, I have drivers foot, so I use them when I'm driving
I've got planters peanuts
I've got planted fascists
I’ve used these for the past few months for trail running here in the Ozark hills. They work really really well for what they are for. The heel is meant to keep you stable on the trail with small petty rocks and other bs you can trip on. I’ve tested this myself and it works really well. These are for trail running
Did you drive with it?
Good info. This "review" is a bit out of touch from their intended design - comparing Hokas to heavily built welted boots when they are a (relatively) lightweight performance shoe.
No they are no. Boots are not for trail running 😅
How is it holding up after 6 months?
Off road shoes.
It would be cool if you did a series on the different brands for mountaineering boots(ex. Scarpa, La Sportiva, Lowa etc.)now that it’s getting close to fall/winter, more cold time of year
Man, I would love to see some Olympic Mons Cube boots cut open.
I have these Hoka’s and used them recently for a 30 mile, 3 day backpack through Devil’s Thumb Loop in CO. They were fantastic at reducing foot fatigue and blisters. Really happy with how they performed. Very comfortable as they reduce impact on your joints by a huge margin. I was using Oboz hiking boots before and these are far and wide better in almost every category.
hell ya, same.
Love Hokas. My favorite running shoe company. Speed goats have lasted 300 plus miles for hiking after which they become work sneakers
Do they work well on a steep downhill part of the hike? I imagine going uphill you wouldn't really notice a difference in terms of the back part of the sole. But going downhill you rely on your heels a lot and I'm curious how it would affect your step?
@@therealdeal3672 I mean the boot that is covered in this vid was originally a running shoe made for the 10th anniversary from Hoka and it was designed for ultras and huge descents. They are incredibly comfy and I use them for work and approach shoes for climbing :)
@@therealdeal3672 Probably should say I’ve had mine since the week they came out and LOVE them. Super weird looking shoe, and you get bullied for the first month of wearing them.
I went from Merrell Moab to the Hoka Anacaba. The difference is day and night. I have a flat foot and even though the Merrell give me a bit more stability, my feet were sore every time I went on a trek. The Hoka saved my feet. I can go for miles without feeling that foot fatigue as early as I would with my previous shoes. Yeah they look kind of goofy, but I stand by them. Made me enjoy the outdoors so much more. I would say I'm kind of a novice hiker, and these were great to get me motivated. Maybe I'll transition at some point but so far my feet are happy.
I would recommend doing a bit of research into proper striking technique. I wear a pair of astral loyaks for all sorts of serious hikes in Montana and never have any pain.
The issue is almost never the footwear but walking technique and foot strength
Anacapa mid?
Anacapa mid?
Anacapa mid?
Anacapa mid?
You could step on the back of these and give someone the ultimate “flat tire”.
I bought my first pair of Hoka shoes (Clifton, wide option) this year and as soon as i took 5 steps i decided ill never buy another brand for walking/running. Without a doubt the most comfortable shoe for outdoor straightforward activities. Would i go hunting with it or climb the Mount Everest - no lol, there are boots that are made for hard core terrain, and Hokas aren't even meant for that. Long hiking, long walks, long runs on city streets yes yes yes. There is a series for harder terrain too, but i haven't tried those.
Also i would recommend the Clifton wide ones for people with metatarsal pain in the sole.
You nailed-it, +1 this comment
You gotta try all the brands to find one that fits your feet, because every foots different but most asics suit my profile, thin long foot, I havnt tried hokas but not after a high performance sneaker either, asics nandi hi was on sale brought one pair then brought another in a different colourway, and you get them in gortex but in Australia don't need it and there double the cost
@@pineapplesideways3820 I've bought just about every type of shoes out there and I've yet to find a pair that more comfortable than my Hoka One One Bondi 7. I've got Nike Zoom Pegasus 37, 38, Epic React Flynit 2, Adidas Ultraboost S&L & 21, New Balance 1080v10, Brooks Glycerin, Asics Novablast, 360 and Kayano 27 along with others that I buy simply for looks and not necessarily comfort. If you're looking for comfortable shoes, it's really hard to beat Hokas and that's basically what they do. Their shoes were originally intended for runners who couldn't run anymore because of knee, ankle and other joint pains prevented them from running. I started wearing Hokas about two years ago because of foot pain / fatigue. Now, I can walk 10 - 20 plus miles, on concrete, for upwards of 10 hours a day and my feet are pain free. Today, I walked 26,837 steps and 28,847 steps the previous day and my feet are pain free. I only wear them for work as I'm not walking on concrete for 10 hours a day when I'm out and about.
@@saysoun752 yeah but I only know the shoes I wore doing triathlons in the early 90s, and wore reebok for basketball and asics for running Nike Jordans rolled my ankle heaps in, Nike maxes too heavy, Nike pegasus 89 were and still are great just for walkers, brooks people wore, saucony new balance. Mizuno also I like even the new wave models but hoka don't know maybe try a few pairs on
@@pineapplesideways3820 Remember when the Nike Crosstrainers very first came out? THOSE were pretty good shoes!
I have tried to use Hokas for a while in my work, I love the way they feel, Hate the instability of that much foam, and cactus needles go right through.
Oh man! I had a pointed tip of a yucca plant go through the side of mine, didnt pull the broken point out of my foot for about two weeks later when it got slightly infected and my foot spit it out.
Kavlar insole resolv it.
Yeah, that cactus needles going right through thing is a negative for me. And the yucca, too! Yay for leather and actually protective materials! But what you doing stepping on cactus needles?
Shoes like these are very common in the ultralight hiker and ultra marathon worlds. I use a similar brand Altra as a trail running, hiking, and some backpacking shoe. They are absolutely a consumable. I typically get a pair on sale around $100 knowing I’m going to get from 500-1000 miles out of them. They really help with foot fatigue on consecutive high mileage days.
The shoes reminded me of Altra as well. I really like my three pairs of them. Especially the wide toebox and the level heel approach.
People who use shoes like this in the montains typically get less than 100 miles (not the shoes from the video, you'd probably kill yourself with those ridiculous heels before you'd reach 100 miles).
I have had the Clifton 6, 7 and 8, it might not be the most durable shoes but they are so comfortable, in my work I often stand up 8 to 10 hours a day, I used to have a lot of pain in my feet and legs but after I started wearing Cliftons I haven't had any problems.
And they are good for running too ;)
Good that you are giving a chance to other good non-leather shoes.
think virón shoes would be interesting to look at, they're a French company and have boots made with apple "leather", would be interesting to see how well they're built and see if they're a worthy substitute to leather
was just thinking of getting a pair of their white combat boots too, so seeing how their apple leather would hold up would be pretty interesting
Substitute leather is just never as good as proper leather.
Appreciate the consumable versus tool observation….
I own their Bondi Sr”s and their Mafate speed runners and without question they are the most comfortable shoes I have ever worn! I will be ordering these 10 9”s in a week (been a customer since 2013). Oh and great vid!
Bondi SRs are incredible!
Bought some Mach 4 shoes and they were half to one full size too small.
I’ve used normal Hoka’s and liked them, I credit them with helping save my foot from a limp after breaking a bone in my midfoot/ankle (forgot the name, it took forever to heal because it was mis-diagnosed as a sprain for months.) I used them as an intermediate step to transition from an air cast back to street shoes, because the foam eased a lot of pressure on the bone.
My son had a lisfranc injury (had surgery) and was told to wear Hokas by the podiatrist too.
It's just weakening your feet
I love hokas, but as I suspected, these boots seem like they're not worth the price whatsoever.
I thought the same thing, until I was gifted the HOKA Anacapa, after hiking in Yosemite , Poland , England and now the Patagonia in Argentina. 100% worth it. There was a lot of off trail. The great part about then is their light weight for travel. No one wants to cary heavy shoes in an Airplane.
love your channel, really informative stuff. most of the shoe / boot buying public isnt aware of how footwear is made, its great that your educating people so they can make informed decisions.
one note however that ive noticed on several of your videos, therr is a difference between cemented and direct moulded. the cutaway you showed was clearly direct moulded, you can tell by how the sole conforms to the shape of the upper, this means it was moulded directly onto the upper instead of being moulded seperately and then glued. dms is a generally better construction method than cemented, altho both can be done poorly or decently.
all of these heel gimmics are needed to compensate for people heel striking and over striding when they walk / run. the achillies tendon is a shock absorber, when we bang our heels on the ground it totally negates this function and leads to all sorts of problems. do yourself a favor and reserch barefoot walking, forefoot striking, and fox walking.
To be diplomatic, I'll just say that I love the colorway.
I own these and switched to their speedgoats for my mountain hiking. But I do love the Tennines for flatter areas. I am a big guy and I want a bit more of a balanced feel on the mountains. I use their Gaviotas for my running shoe and I really wish they made a trail version of that shoe. That being said if I use these Tennines on more groomed trails I will wear myself out before my feet would ever hurt whereas my traditional hikers are really high end, but if I do a long hike my feet do feel it.
Hold on, they market this as a hiking boot, but advise against "navigating stairs"...
That was exactly my first thought when he said that...
Yeah nature is well known for its natural stair formations 🤡
Had bought Altra trail runners when they first came out, for the wide toe box and zero drop. But. They also had (and have) an extended heel stub. Not a big butt, but a large extension. Which trips your foot when going down staircases. After calling Altra, they confirmed it was a known issue and suggested just cutting them off. Which works just great, and beats breaking your neck falling down staircases.
I have a pair of Nike's with an extended heel. Never gave stairs a second thought until I walked down some in those shoes. I've evolved to walk down stairs at an angle when wearing them. Not ideal but I love them otherwise.
I've seen this boot once whilst working with a gardner/landscaper. I first thought the samr, how ridiculous but then I looked at how great he was moving thorugh the soft ground in the garden we were working...
...it looked like it was really good for that pourpose.
well... it would spread your weight out kind of like a snowshoe due to that heel, though nowhere as extreme.
I hunt about every day of the year, about half of the time I have an eberlestock pack with over 30 lbs of gear. I only use Hokas while I hunt and Ranch ever day. The Kaha, Anacapa, and TenNine have all worked amazing for me. I will be buying the new Kaha 2 and Torras next! Great review.
They're designed for downhill running. On regular, flatter terrain, they'd work against you unless you're a heel striker which unfortunately many runners are. If you wanna look at a leather running shoe, Softstar, a barefoot shoes company makes them, but they're very minimalist so it'd basically going to be a goodyear welt on a slab of letter and rubber.
That makes sense. I really like my zero-drop, minimalist running shoes, but downhills do sometimes feel like they'd be easier if were backpedaling haha.
Softstar are definitely not a goodyear welt. there is no welt. it's basically just leather insole stitched to a upper and a glued outsole.
I like them as minimal workout shoe or casual shoe. all made in usa though so pretty cool. Really minimal though, first time you step on a piece of gravel you'll know.
Kinda hard to run down hill without eventually having to go up hill
As a runner who always had trouble with heel striking, i loved downhills because you just landed on the forefoot and propel yourself another 10 feet. Of course uphill is easy too since you dont need to touch your heel. It’s the miles on flat ground that got difficult for me.
@@benjammin8510 Did you un-learn the heel striking? i also had this problem and didnt really know why my feet and legs hurt, but i read Born to run and tried the forefoot running tecnique, now there is no more pain no matter how mani km i put in every week.
I have been a marathoner for a while now. I had a unrelated foot injury that messed my ability to train up. Hokas let me train as I was before without injury. The cliftons are more normal looking and provide a ton of support and stability. They were created by an Ironman triathlete in his 40’s. I’m on my 5th pair and they haven’t let me down yet.
When i bought my first pair, i thought i wasted money...but then i put them on and... Ill never buy another brand lol. Also helped me a lot with my Achilles and metatarsal injuries. They are simply top stuff.
@@ludwigvonn9889 destroyed Achilles and plantar. Subtalar bruise fracture that needs to heal on the heel lol. These soles would help I assume.. should arch and toes not be more evenly supported however?
I have experience with a few pairs of Hoka boots/shoes. They're super comfortable and lightweight. The only drawback is the sole wears out in a few months.
Love these videos about the more functional shoes!
Keep it up!
The idea reminds me of the MBT / Sketchers shape ups style shoes but with a better marketing and design team. I'm not quite sure a gigantic heel strike pad is going to make walking any better, particularly off road. A thinner heel/sole and being more conscious about your gait and how hard you heel strike sounds like a better option
They might sell more if they made the sole leave a Big Foot track... they've got the size!
I don't know if he does the waterproofing test every time, my first time seeing it. But I love it, super useful.
Hoka Bohdi's and Speedgoats have saved me. With bad ankles, knees, hip and back these shoes really extended my distance I am able to walk without pain. I was only able to walk about two miles before I'd start hurting. The day I got the Hoka's I walked 5.5 miles and still felt good until I realized I had been walking for way longer than my lunch break had allowed
You ever tried to bare foot running shoes? I got turned onto them years ago by a friend that ran ultra marathons. They take a bit of getting used to but I love them and they really helped with all my issues that are the same as you mentioned.
@@benscott19841 yea barefoot shoes are the best
After getting my nicks partially broken in I will never buy “consumable” shoes/boots again besides flip flops, just throwing money away. Hubblebutt LOL
I think there’s a happy medium and that’s owning a few pairs of both if you can afford it. Just my opinion.
@@colesisler582 yea you’re probably right I meant consumable work boots mainly. I would never buy hubblebutts tho for $250 I would get some danners or something that can be resoled if I was into hiking.
RE the Nick's. At some point you will notice that you don't notice the boots and then you will wonder when you stopped noticing them!
well if you're an ultralight hiker and your goal is to crush miles then it's not throwing money away at all, there's a tool for every job
I love my nicks builder pro best boot by far wear them everyday
Seems like a good shoe to pack for a vacation where you know you're going to walk around a lot on tourist trails like Chichen Itza or the Parthenon or Herculaneum. Lots of walking and standing.
If you wear this around Parthenon, you should be thrown in jail for ruining Parthenon for everyone else with this eye cancer. Seriously, eff you, stay in your godless backwater with this
@@gavranarh LOL Fashion police here
@@gavranarh damn don’t go to Japan, you’ll see these everywhere.
@@gavranarh haven't seen anyone try this hard to sound cool outside media in my whole life lmfao
@@gavranarh there might be more interesting things to look at than shoes when visiting a historical landmark.
You might wanna try looking at, oh i don't know, The Parthenon itself maybe?
Cool video, you're a good narrator I didn't even skip that sponsored add.
Waterproofing test was a neat addition to the series. When you say no leaks, do you mean from outside to in? So that you don't get wet if you go ankle deep in these shoes?
Do a "WHAT Y'ALL GOT ON?!" Run through the shop and show what footwear everyone is wearing.
Would love for you to test some North face trail / hiking shoes. Their quality seems to have gone down according to reviews. Would be good to cut a cut down review
I wear hiking boots that couldn't be more opposite. I'd worn Merrell boots for years, but after being told i had pretty significant arthritis in my right knee by an orthopedist who was a barefoot runner, she suggested switching to a minimalist or barefoot shoe. After developing knee pain in that knee that wouldn't go away even after 3 months, I purchased a pair of Xero shoes and after wearing them for 4 hours the pain was gone and now only returns when I wear a shoe with a heel. I have a pair of their Scrambler mid hikers that probably weigh about a quarter of the weight of those Hokas. My feet and arches are so strong compared to when I started wearing them and they're so light and comfortable I tend to forget I have them on.
My favorite sneakers that I have ever owned were Adidas Formel 1. They too had an extended heel (though not NEARLY this ridiculous) and they are still the most comfortable pair of sneakers* I’ve ever owned. (*non-running) As designed, they were a DREAM to drive in too! Sure wish Adidas still made them!
Adidas has released the Racing 1 which is a redesign of the Formel 1. They retail for about $90 and are on sale in most places.
These are made for long distance. I’m currently wearing a pair of Hoka Speedgoats that I’ll be using in a 100 mile mountain race in two weeks. I need as much as cushion in the lightest shoe possible. These things are designed to be used for probably no more than 500 miles. For people doing runs/races like this they are very much considered a tool.
How was your race ? I ran in Hoka also
@@IanRamonI completed 54 of the 100 miles and got around 16,000 feet of elevation gain. I went in with a right hip injury and IT band problems. The hip did fine but both IT bands basically seized up around mile 20. 🤣 I can’t wait to give it another try!
@@lukelarsson great !! it is hard to do extreme stuff with injury. it was hard even if healthy . fast recovery !!
I’m avid hiker and backpacker. My average load is about 30 lbs. I love keen shoes, very much a similar design, light super comfy, and generally I get the water proof versions. I mostly hike in Northern Minnesota very rocky, roomy trails, lots of elevation change, definitely not groomed like a state park. But this style works really well, minus the diaper. They give just right amount of support to where the shoe has good articulation, but pounds lighter than a traditional boot. When you are doing 20 mile days those pounds add up. The only durability issue I’ve had is that the soles do wear really fast especially when worn for dog walks every night. But on trail use I’ve never had a blowout, puncture, or tear. Boots are definitely more durable, but more overall fatiguing for long hauls. Boots will give better support for heavy loads also.
But you correct in saying that this style is a consumable, they do wear out faster than say even my store bought Nikes’ in an urban environment. The grippy soles are definitely too soft for daily side walk use. The styles I usually go for are about $130. But Keen have a fantastic warranty and have replaced several pairs for me at no cost. They stand behind their products.
I think the diaper is a gimmick, and the shoe is too expensive compared to similar shoes on the market. And you can get a damn fine pair of boots that are great, made in the USA for less money, like my Thorogoods.
Keens are really nice
This reminds me of the pair of Skechers shape-ups I've had under my bed that haven't been used in almost a decade.
I had a pair! They were black w silver glitter, I called them my Darth Vader Disco Workout Booties, lol.
Since they made me 2" taller (and made my feet look TINY), I wore those hideous things for almost 2yrs STRAIGHT! I walked EVERYWHERE in them!
Turns out, you're not supposed to do that.
You were only *supposed* to wear them 45mins a DAY. Oops!
The benefits? None.
None at all, but oddly, when I went back to regular shoes, I'd gone down a half size! My *toenails* grew in really weird, too. The constant downhill pressure that the angle put on my feet all the time, due to the odd shape of construction compressed my toes, and my nails grew in STRIPED!!
Sketcher Shape Ups: The Modern Foot-Binding of The Early 2000's.
(They were SOOO UGLY, lol! I refuse to believe that I EVER wore them un-ironically!)
@@widowrumstrypze9705 Interesting, I never had any of those problems. I found them really comfortable but a bit unwieldy. Like if I didn't pick up my feet enough the thickest part of the sole could catch on bumps on the ground.
Just say you're a traditional dude my guy. And tbh hardcore heavy leather boots aren't as comfortable and useful to a hiker as light, cushioned, synthetic material but 100% waterproof boots with great grip. With that said, I'm not particularly a fan of that heel.
Traditional? This boot has an arse like a kardashian.
Hardcore heavy leather boots, once broken in, are practically custom fitted and for my off trail use than any lightweight hiker.
@@W1ldt1m I even fail to see how these would be useful in downhill trail running scenarios, once you scoop an uneven rock on the terrain, you are going to trip. I do both trail running and hiking and I think these hokas make great landfill decoration to be honest.
@@tplambert they will definitely make you take worse form as your body will be tricked into relying on the heel spring.
No need to start your comment with a “hot take”
We need more of these cut in half. I have the Hoke Clifton 9 and the Brooks Adrenaline GTS 22 and I’d love to see what’s going on in there because they’re beasts for me while running.
I've had a few pairs of Hoka's and never felt they wore out quicker than any of the other well known brands of running shoes. Just bought a pair of these for hiking 30 mile plus routes as I have bad nerve damage in one foot. Will they outlive my excellent Salomon hiking boots? Probably not, but I'm hoping they mean I dont need to take painkillers every hour or so just to make hiking longer distances possible. I'm sure they're not for everyone but then what shoe is?
Heel on this reminds me of the Yeezy 350 v2’s. Would be interesting to see you tear those apart.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought these look like those fugly yeezy shoes.
What tf is a Yeezy shoe?
Your analysis of these as being made for "well groomed trails" seems spot on to me. I hike trails with rock gardens, lots of tree roots and rocks that are like stairs sometimes, and these things seem more likely to induce a fall or an ankle twist due to the badonkadonk heel design. Foot placement can be crucial and having what looks like almost 2 inches of foam hanging off the back of your heel like you put swim fins on backwards doesn't seem like it would be a good thing in any way. For the right person, trail, and activity, I'm sure they're great, but I'm not that person and I don't jog on trails that are essentially dirt sidewalks. I'll stick to my Oboz Sawtooths for day hikes and Asolo Fugitive GTXs for backpacking.
Oboz sawtooth are great! Every store manager at a backpacking supply shop I worked at owned a pair.
I'm a maintenance man, and I can tell you Hokas are perfect for an indoor worker with a very active job. If they had synthetic toes in there it would be great for factory work on concrete floors. Great shoes, but I agree. For outdoors I am going to be wearing traditional boots. Add a customized insole if I have foot problems.
Have you done Vans ultra range hi? Have a pair of them I hike in and wear as an everyday work boot (simple home construction stuff) and I’m curious what you think of them! Love the vids!
I REALLY hate foam shoes.. I've had two pairs of $200+ boots completely fail on me because the foam layer disintegrated on me and the entire outer sole fell off.
I would actually be interested in seeing those Xero Shoe boots and see how they stack up.
There is a reason you don't say what shoes.
This shoe represents a whole series that you could/should dive into, Weston
Agreed
Just found this video, awesome work mate, any chance you could name the other pair if boots you compared with?
Wow those boots are ridiculous. Been watching the channel for awhile and you definitely convinced me to subscribe. Are Pajar boots any good? Just bought a pair from the thrift store.
They'd be great for saving joints. A friend would try to train for marathons on a navy aircraft carrier and his knees were always "blowing out" due to the steel decking. I've had similar problems running on concrete and pavement.
Then you're running technique is incorrect, nothing to do with footwear
I cant imagine a worst shoe for joints
Yeah dude good idea! You could totally hollow out that giant heel and save a couple joints in there! Smoke a fatty while out on the trails, hell yeah bro
@@samthesr20man you are totally wrong. It's not about technique, humans feet is just not designed to walk extensively on hard surfaces, like any other walking animals. That's why we need shoes that would soften the impact to the joints on hard surfaces.
@@kaikart123 no, the human body is actually designed to be able to run on hard surfaces though evolution. It's called running on your midfoot or toes if you prefer, it allows you to absorb any impact naturally. If you run heel striking first, you probably deserve to have blown out joints. These shoes are a have for clowns who have no business operating a human body in the first place 🤡
I have these and I love them! I use them because I have an ankle problem, I couldnt walk trails without them. So yeah they do have a purpose for me and that is shock absorption and stability. Without these boots, I could not walk!
10:06 Flexing your new plasma torch? I love it! ❤️
would you recommend these on day to day commute during snowy winter?
Would love to see a video on the Birkenstock QS 500 or 700. I personally love the the 500’s.
Look like made for wide feet
@@pineapplesideways3820 they’re not wide
One of my friends bought this shoe, and wore it at a hiking trip with a fairly heavy backpack on. And that completely ruined the boot, he said! It was never the same again, because the foam had sunk in on it self and and didn't cushion the way it should anymore. It was ruined after one trip. I guess the boot is alright at walking on easy, small trips on gravel, but not on longer hiking trips in the mountains.
I have nerve damage and as a result I have drop foot and have to wear a orthotic brace named an AFO. Can you recommend a good leather boot that would be compatible with a brace?
If you think about impact of feet heel to toe and on most regular shoes after time the heel is worn down significantly more than the rest of the shoe. The extra on the back helps keep more of the shoe heel for longer period.
Love this channel! May I suggest a New Balance Made in the USA series? The 990,992,993 are all immensely popular at the moment.
One of my favorite things is how you show that you're human, and don't pretend that you know how to pronounce everything. That type of transparency may not seem like much, but it makes you come across extremely genuine and earnest.
By far the best pair of running/hiking combo “boots” I’ve used. Very little foot fatigue, no aching arches. The majority of people run heel to toe, so the rear section helps out a ton.
You shouldn't be running heel to toe. Walking and hiking are a different story.
I tried a pair of more basic Hokas for everyday wear on the advice of a foot doctor. They were pillowy soft and cushiony, but so soft that several times they nearly rolled over in what could have been an ankle sprain on uneven ground. I went the other direction to a barefoot style and never looked back. Lems is my current favorite.
Honestly, I'm impressed. I still intend to wear leather because I want a long lasting boot, however if I'm ever doing a big backpacking trip in the mountains I'm down to buy some Hokas for it.
I doubt these are meant for backpacking. You'd need something sturdier with more support to carry the extra weight of a pack.
That heel would screw you up on boulders or shalr.
Typically Hokas are used by trail runners more than hikers. Especially big incline races where you have a lot of downhill and are on a defined trail vs. over rocks, but definitely more for a run than a typical big mountain/lotsa rocks hike situation.
Love Hoka footwear. If you’re new to the brand, he’s right. The sacrifice for the second to none comfort is longevity.
The leather boots put strain on the knees and back hiking. They look more like a work boot. I can imagine wearing those leather boots would feel heavy after a couple miles.
Great video! The only thing I might add is that this particular Hokas is ridiculously expensive for a 'consumable', but it really does absorb a more shock then ANY boot I've ever wore.
250 bucks consumable.
I recently bought a pair of Hoka Clifton 7s and I was really looking forward to wearing them. I wore them for one day and my arches got so, so tired that I needed to change out of them. There was no arch support whatsoever and they were just too soft for me. It's weird because I read online that the Cliftons' arch support is "medium" compared to other shoes but I didn't feel any. ::shrug::
Maybe you have a naturally high arch, so you didn't feel it. I have almost flat soles and the Cliftons literally saved me. No foot and back pain anymore after high mileage. My foot just rolls over, with no tension for my foot, its almost as its dragging you forward. I got addicted so i put them on even when just going to the store :)
You could try the Arahi's! They're basically the "stability" version of the *Clifton's with more arch support. I had to purchase a pair due to achilles tendonitis (and overpronating due to the tendonitis) and they've been a lifesaver.
Not a sneakerhead at all but I find your videos really informational and rather fascinating for some reason. Keep it up.
goodjob on your key terms !!! a lot of reviewers dont know any of the terminology!
You should do more hiking shoes, I think this will gain you alot of subs ^_^ You should include fit and comfort
This was super informative. I work in an outdoor store that sells this (and other) hoka shoe. I already had my doubt about the durability but this video and this showed me that those doubts are justified. I would really be interested in a comparison between this and other hiking shoes from brands like la sportiva, meindl, lowa or hanwag
Greetings from the Netherlands
I dont see where the durability was tested? The durability was speculation based.
i subbed and like the channel. keep up the great reviews!
I have the HOKA Anacapa Mid GTX and they have improved my hiking speed. And my feet feel fantastic after a long hike.
I'd love to hear exeperiences with this shoe on a month+ long hike. Or the opinion of an orthopedic. The whole thing looks so unnatural.. A zero drop/wide toebox hiking shoe (Altra Superior 4.5) got rid of my back and knee aches on long hikes, and these Hokas basically encourage a heel first instead of a more healthy forefoot stride. The Superiors do have a slight extention at the back, but I think it's more for better stability/balance rather than "easing" the heel to toe transition". But I might be wrong, waiting for some long term honest reviews on this design.
This design is pure shit, their normal shoes are really good though. Thru hikers loves Altra, Topo, and Hoka.
Hokas are highly podiatrist recommended as well. I work in a shoe store where we basically only care podiatrist recommended brands and hokas are probably our best sellers for people with several different foot conditions.
Double Haglund's here ...
Not due to Hoka though ;-)
Would love to see reviews of popular techwear boots and sneakers like the ACG antarktik and the Boris 11 series. Are they truly worth their price?
I honestly wanted to see you walk in these a little more. Great video 👍
THANK YOU for finally cutting a pair of Hokas in half. I've been saying for the longest time that they're overpriced for just being shoes with giant slabs of regular EVA foam. It's not proprietary, there's no innovation, just a fat slab of regular foam that is in every other low budget shoe. That's like charging prime rib prices for three hamburger patties put together.
How do you know proprietary foams are not just regular EVA foams though judging how many times they lied to us with their ads? Most of those proprietary foams like FreshFoam, DNA Loft, React, Cloudfoam, etc are "EVA based" which I suspect they are just regular EVA. At least Hoka honestly told us fair and square they just use compression molded EVAs.
@@kaikart123 you can tell by using them.
@@RetroKid of course but they are all still the same old EVA, even different Hoka models have different feel to them.
@@kaikart123 we know because of the different processes it takes to create the individual midsoles, as well as the combination of elements and materials. I know you know the answer to this, but you're arguing for the sake of arguing. You logic and questioning fall apart because feigning that same level of ignorance with any other thing doesn't work, and you know it. Example, how do you know car x is better than car y. They both have engines, tires and gears? How do you know that food x is healthier than food y? They're both made out of the same stuff. We're on this thread because we know about shoes, right? So why pretend you don't know there are different compositions that make up cushioning systems?
@@RetroKid no you don't. They all said "EVA based" and then throw a bunch of buzzwords. YOU don't actually know if they used different foams or not.
To echo some other comments, these boots seem odd for Hoka and do look ridiculous. But they have some AMAZING shoes and there's a reason they have basically a cult following. So I would also like to see another style featured in the future. One of their popular running shoes would be great to see side-by-side with a Nike or other more mainstream running shoe.
I myself have 4 pairs of Hokas, all different styles for different purposes. Their cushion and stability options are amazing and incomparable to the standard shoe options out there. I am not a runner, just a walker. Whether it's rushing to work on the downtown sidewalks, going grocery shopping, or walking a few miles for exercise, I can't go without my Hokas. They save my feet, knees, and whole body from shock and pain. Never had any shoe even remotely like them.
dude why are they so high. seems to be a way to roll your ankle. i don't like
@@nofurtherwest3474 "seem" when in practice it isn't. It's stable af unlike the Nikes.
@@kaikart123 but if you do roll it it's gonna hurt like platform shoes.
I would love to see your review on actual tactical boots, like the 5.11 ATAC boots.]
Really want to understand pros and cons of tactical VS leather boots (from the perspective of a hiker/camper).
Any chance of a heat resistant steel toe boot comparison? I work around molten metal and the options are limited and it's hard to get a handle on which ones are worthwhile and which are just trash.
I'm late on this one but I'm glad you did this. was always curious about these because I'm a runner but never tried them, admittedly because I didn't wanna look like a goofball and all their shoes look absolutely ridiculous
I bought a pair of hokas after knee surgery because hey they couldn’t hurt. I’ll say as a therapeutic shoe for someone who just had a total knee replacement at 39 they were great, I felt more confident in my stride because that initial contact was lessened and made me able to go further and really helped. Yes I stayed on well groomed trails (not because of the shoe but because of the knee) so I can’t comment on their off trail or heavy pack carrying capabilities. But for a therapeutic I think they should be prescribed for outdoor treatment.
I respect your videos and your opinion. I have the Hoka running shoes. I had the same pair for two years and still going strong. I run in shoes until the pivot spot is so worn down that I am walking on the ground with the shoes on. You might need a wear and tear test to test the durability. I have the boots also, but they are too warm if you are not in the cold. I do not like my feet sweaty.
I am wearing these Hokas just to walk around New York city during winter time. Makes it so comfortable to walk and reduce feet hurt at the end of the day, 6-8 mile city walking is the perfect scenario for these
Pthalates are pronounced "Thal-laytes" - if you ever need to use it in the future (and based on the fact that their are hormone imitators, you probably will)
All pronunciations are correct because of dialects and language differences and artist intention
@@gvi341984 Ehhhhh, sometimes yes, but not always
@@smahhah For artistry? Any form is fine
the "ph" is pronounced as an "f" in terephthalate due to it being in the middle of the word. it is only silent when it begins a word. consider the pronunciation of a word like "diphthong" for another example of this. thus, ter-eph-THAL-ate
@clandestine2178 To what exactly? To the phonetics? One language can have different dialects for one word.
I think the LEMs would be just as comfortable and encourage a more natural walking biomechanically than these.
Love my Lems, Vivobarefoot, and Xero shoes.
@@heyitsbroski I haven't tried lems personally but they seem pretty decent, if a bit thick compared to most minimal shoes and sandals.