Hello, can you do a video on the Represent HTN Low tumbled leather flat white? If so can you compare it to other white sneakers, like its quality and price?
If it is possible please try some motorcycle hiking boots, like TCX CLIMATREK SURROUND, or any other simmilar. I wonder if they will work in both places or will they fail in one or both
Nice review, Rose! I was the product manager for this, and our goal was to showcase how running technology can disrupt the traditionally conservative trekking and backpacking footwear industry. For example the heel cushioning, which is outstanding in such a segment and gives you a comfortable ride, when going down the mountain and another 5 miles back to your car. This boot is the perfect blend of stability and comfort. Take a look at the forefoot rocker- it's quite high for a boot like this, but similar to those found in running shoes. The idea was to allow an easier rolling motion into each step without needing to bend the relatively stiff speedboard too much. Speaking of the speedboard, it's not meant to be overly flexed. Instead, it provides stability to the boot and makes it versatile enough for climbing, even when leaning on small rock crevices. As for the lacing system, we wanted to eliminate the need for locking hooks, so we designed a locking mechanism that makes it as easy as possible-just pull the lace tight. Once the lower eyestay is locked, you can lace up the top hooks however you prefer, without the lower part loosening. Also, notice the lace itself. To make it run smoothly through the locking mechanism, it needs to be thin and stiff at the bottom, but thicker and softer at the top to maintain a good knot. We developed this boot over several years, without a strict deadline, and launched it when we felt it was ready. A lot of thought went into it. Hope you enjoy these insights. Happy to watch the rest of the series, I really enjoy your content. Keep going! Best regards from Switzerland
I know ON will never make a hunting boot, but I wish there was an uninsulated 8 inch boot with a carbon fiber plate inside. It could fair really well for lightweight hunting applications, and potentially military applications.
This is fashion, people want to stand out. Soon they will get bored with it and will see that it is not worth the price. Such an "invention" is too obvious. Even Nike had more sense and did not use open vents, instead they made AIR MAX.
I've done a lot of backpacking, and one of the things that might not be immediately obvious is that you do not want your sole to be either too thick or too squishy, because you not only need to have some feel for what you're walking on, but the thicker and taller it gets, the easier it gets to twist an ankle. If you look at any sort of high-end, traditional, all leather Italian hiking boot, you are not going to find a lot of thick squishy soles. You're going to find extremely durable, extremely dependable boots that are fairly hard and rigid for ultimate support and stability, and comfort is next on the list after that.
Exactly. A stiff sole over rocky, rugged, uneven terrain - especially carrying a full pack - protects from injury and reduces fatigue by a huge margin. These shoes would be ripped to shreds on some of the extended backpacks I have been on.
You are reviewing meme hiking boots but have only reviewed 1/3 of the reference brands used by professional guides. You’ve done La Sportiva, I’d love to see Asolo and Scarpa boots when you get the chance. It would be great to see a real alpine or mountaineering boot cut open. A good boot to start with could be a Scarpa Kinesis Pro GTX or Grand Dru GTX which are both very common in the pro world.
I have a pair of Scarpas, and while I could probably walk over a landmine and they'd be fine, they arebrutal to my feet. 13 years later, I still have them though, they still wear hard, but never wear out. I keep em because they're still waterproof and a good work shoe, and could probably out-survive anything in the zombie apocolypse, but not have comfy feet
I have put hundreds of miles going up and down the mountains of UT, in all seasons to include summer and winter (with snowshoes) using the Sportiva he tested. So far so good so I have to STRONGLY disagree about the term "crappy models".... Far better than many others at the price point level, they are not 600 boot but I didn't pay that.
Would be interesting to see Mammut hiking boots. Having tried so many brands, after getting a pair of Mammut, I don't even look at other brands. Now I'm on my 4'th pair.
I'm really enjoying the hiking/ backpacking boot series. Crispi and Hanwag are two highly recommended brands in the backpacking and hunting world but come with a hefty price tag. Many backcountry hunters will tell you never to skimp on boots, but $400+ is a big expense for most people. It would definitely be interesting to see a set of those get reviewed to see if they're actually worth it.
I've started watching your leather boots review and cut in half and really enjoyed them. When we move towards hiking boots, I have some reservations on this because brands sometimes don't aim to build the most durable boots so it might be a bit unfair to review them based on the standard for heritage boots
For walking, I wore the same pair of German paratroop boots for about 18 years until they finally broke down (they were already mil surplus used when I bought them for £20). I now wear my old running shoes to walk and they work great. Lightweight, grippy, super comfortable. I've looked to replace them with proper walkers for years but it doesn't make sense. Running companies making boots is a good idea.
Having sold ON for a couple of years I can not believe a shoe could have so many warranty issues and still sell. Glue fails, materials fall apart quickly, midsole start to squeak or collapses etc etc. Salomon also started having issues with stitching and glue but to give ON some credit they truly did try to improve and listen to shop feedback. Salomon on the other hand is just a company cash grabbing on an old reputation for quality. Since Anta bought Amer their products just started to suck. Arc'teryx also started having QC issues since the Anta take over.
I have some On shoes that are decent, just bought some cross hike 2s from Salomon for hiking. Curious which brands you'd recommend for trekking clothing or shoes. Arc'teryx stuff was so expensive, and I had previously heard or read good things from the brand but that was a few years ago...
@@zlatkojerkovic9456 The pattern work on Arcteryx is great but the development of gear is poor and the material choices are sub par. For example their synthetics puffers use a lower CLO rated insulation than say Primaloft Gold and the materials tend to pill easily. Not good for the cost. For the shoe choices it is a matter of what you do and where you do it. Shoes are tools not just foot covers so different models and brands are better for different places and people. Foot shape is a big thing, for example I have a Roman/Greek foot shape so love a 'narrower' european fit where I find the 'wide shoes' like Altra are narrow at my wide point and baggy at the toe making them very very poor for me. A germanic foot shape will love them. Brands... the Italians tend to last better down here in the southern hemisphere with our hasher climate. US brands do not do as well (Teva, Keen, Altra, Oboz etc) and Salomon is so heavily invested in the US market the quality has unfortunately fallen that way.
Can you do a male versus female hiking boot series / episode? I don't think it happens so much now but I remember there was a time where it felt like companies would be cheap on their female versions. Other times there was female specific tech for example a higher drop then compared to the men's (for example some Asics have a higher drop or women compared to men)
The more of your low-mid range hiking boot videos I see, the more I believe you would be quite positive about the Haglöfs Solid Pro GTX. Claimed 2+mm full grain upper with goretex membrane and vibram outsole. The insole seems like the least good part after 300 heavy miles but it's not bad, just bit too soft/weak. I paid ~170$ for mine three years ago.
I would love to see a series on traditional leather mountaineering boots, like your hiking boots series... the nepal evo, mont blanc, alpine expert, alta via, etc..
I used to do light hiking with a pair of Ons, back in 2016-2017. Getting pebbles out of the voids in the sole was annoying, but I lived with it. Until the day when, crossing a field, I stepped on sheep poop. As much as I tried to clean those voids by putting water through them with a hose, they were impossible to fully wash. Even after a spin in the washer, there was still a smell coming from poop residue inside those voids.
Kevlar is a trademark of DuPont corporation. While thd material in these boots is likely very similar, it's probably not from DuPont so they can't use the name.
Hello! I was buying new hiking boots few months ago. I have tried out some pairs that you reviewed so far in this series, but finally ended up with Mammut Saupen High GTXs. Would love to see a video from you with review of those, as personalny I love them.
Been watching a lot of MAMMUT testing and am impressed . I like the looks of those. I prefer a heel/ ball separation profile like those as opposed to flat when it comes to boots. I have been wanting to try Mammut classics for a while. Got me looking again for some boots 😀
Considering how all the common boots in the mid-tier range so far are just garbage I may go that route myself. Got an old pair of quest 4s, sad that the updated version isn't the same quality but significantly worse.
I have a pair of those, got them 50% off on black week sale. Have not used them yet because I was kind of hesitant i will have use of them. I own Cloudmonster 2's (used every day for 5 moths straight. They give my feet the love they need after having rehabbed from plantar fasciatis for over a year), Cloudrock, used every day for almost a month, really comfortable for my feet. Cloudalpine, a bit narrower than the other two, don't like that but I think is jsut about fine anyway. I wanted a winter boot that would isolate the foot better. WIthout having tried I think the Cloudalpine wil isolate the foot slightly better than the Cloudrock since the fabrik over the foot is slightly thicker. Size: I've used EU46 since forever BUT i purchased all my ON shoes in size EU47,5 after testing size blindly in a store. I was shocked by that, but worth knowing is that I put in my own molded/shaped ergonomic insoles in all of them, they are slightly chunkier than the the insoles that comes with the ON's. Thought I'd share that to anyone who is curious about using ON shoes.
Im probably going to have regrets, but I would love to see a video on the Kenetrek Bridger Highs. I picked these up to replace La Sportiva Nucleos, and Id love to see them cut open. They definitely fit big feet better than the La Sportivas. I am still breaking them in before any hikes.
On is super popular on film sets for their comfort. They seem to be too narrow for my feet. I've found Underarmor Charged 9s to be surprisingly comfy for standing all day. Not sure if you've broken a pair of those down, but I'd love to see a video on them.
Kevlar is a brand (TM by DuPont) just like Gore-Tex. They may be using a knock-off which performs almost as good for a fraction of the price without the marketing BS, which I actually appreciate. Edit: to add, they allow fair use of their brand if you buy the product. It is very likely a knock-off so they aren't making any claims to avoid any blow-back.
@@hillogicalnot just "almost as good", it could work better for shoes. Kevlar is great for taking a bullet, but, as a competitive snare drummer, we've moved beyond Kevlar for our drum heads. Kevlar breaks way too easily under tension. Kevlar also shreds really easily and would be terrible on the outside of a shoe.
@DavidRon yes it is terrible. A few Kevlar strands barely does anything for that boot. Just another gimmick. Just like Gore Tex. It's either breathable or water resistant. It cannot be both at the same time. Gore tex disappeared for a long time, can't believe it's showing up in a lot of shoes now.
It’s clear people don’t understand how Kevlar stops bullets. It’s not ‘bullet proof’ just like no surface is ‘slip proof’. Hopefully there’s a UA-cam video to explain all this somewhere
I'd love you to dissect more On shoes to look at how their more popular models are built. Considering their price-point, I feel it'd be similar to the golden goose video.
Hey guys, love the content! I was looking as some footwear recently and I noticed 2 boots I think you guys could do a video on. The brand they're from is Minnetonka and while I was looking for some loafers or slippers I noticed they released a new boot called the men's Torrey and because the brand is known for Moccasins I was wondering if you guys could do a cut in half video on it for moctoeber to see if the the boot really is true moc. If it's too late for that suggestion I understand they also have the two button boot that featured in the film Once Apon a Time in Hollywood which could also be somewhat interesting.
ALL OF MY 'ON' SHOES DID NOT HOLD UP!! In 4 months, my ON hiking boots were sooooo messed up & looked like a car accident patient with all the fix ups w shoe glue, & anything i could to still use my shoes. They dont resole the shoes or offer anything. They're Vibram soles. Why not? Vans gave me places to go resole my work shoes that do Vibram soles.
Really nice looking hiking boot imo. Kinda pricey. Love ur content always a great watch. I’d love to see what u have to say a bout any new balance shoes with the fuel cell in them like the new rebel v4 or the trainer v3 I have a pair of the rebels and it just insane how much cushion is in them.
I do a lot of miles, 80 to 100 per week, I`ve killed off a pair of boots in two weeks, These boots and the lighter coudrock 2 are by far the best boots I`ve ever come across, the only way they have failed on me is by wearing the heel down on one side and that is after 2000 miles or more, even then the boots are good for purpose just not as good as they have been. outstanding, well worth the money.
Regarding your coasters my local distillery uses horween chromexcel as their coasters. You can smell them then the peated malt and your nose might connect the two
People act like they are a meme but the On Cloudmonsters i own are the most comfortable shoes i have ever worn in my life. Its unreal how comfortable they are.
Mammut is also a classic Swiss brand that I unfortunately feel is very underrepresented in the UA-cam/online space. Maybe you could review one of their shoes aswell?
The cloudtec holes are terrible for hiking. rocks and mud just get stuck in them and make the comfort terrible. I have literally gotten injured because of this.
@derekschinke. i went to comments looking for observers who would spot that achilles heel…immediately. Anyone with even slight experience at off-road hiking would see how ridiculous that glaring weakness is. Why even review this joke of a boot? For indoor only treadmill hikers?
I'm doing research on hiking footwear. I am still in the shoe/boot/trail runner decision making process. These ON boots look really epic, but that price tag is darn high. I got my Whites Perry boots for less.
Killer Review!! Dont forget -Addidas was the one that changed the game w/ BOOST although they lost their lead by slacking on pushing innovative visual designs for their outers -- all these brands look cool but i need room for natural toe splay - so i went w/ last years ALTRA'S on sale :) hoping someone will release a natural toe splay style knee high muck/hunting boot soon - they don't exist yet (unless you wana have them custom designed for $$1000 ??
I feel kevlar (or imitation kevlar) might be a bit overkill for hiking for most people. Kinda feels like they're on to a gimmick here😅 I think for the logo is meant to be a pictogram of a lil person. O is the head, n is the body.
I like them, a lot. Though, I would appreciate a toned down colour. Think Salomon Forces line meets Aku NS 564. By the way, you should review the latter.
Kevlar is a brand name version of polyamide fabric (aka Aramid) produced by DuPont. If they don't source their Aramid fabric from DuPont, they can't call it Kevlar.
The real test of hiking 🥾 is what happens when you actually hike 100km in them. Will the rubber separate from ripstop? Are you able to drive tent stake into the hard ground without damaging a sole? And then there's personal stuff like foot shape. Some brands, no matter how good they are just have a wrong toebox shape for some people.
As someone used to running shoes that last 6 months -1 year and hiking boots lasting around 10 years how do you think a hiking boot made by a running shoe company would last.
Kevlar is an aramid, aramid is short for "aromatic polyamide", so yeah kevlar is a polyamide. Aramids actually have a lot of similar properties to nylon including similar moisture management and breathability. Imo it's almost certainly a gimmick here but that makes it all the more perplexing that they draw no attention to it lol
Ripstop nylon has been around for 80 years. It is not just nylon that can be made ripstop but it is the most common version of ripstop due to its tendency to unravel if snagged. Kevlar is made from Aramid fibres and trademarked so it is unlikely to be genuine Kevlar as it would say so. It could be a similar fibre.
I think that the use of foams in technical equipment is a mistake, a trekking boot must survive until you get home. And another important issue is the expiration of the materials, from one moment to the next they can degrade.
I hate the brand. I got their shoes once and they started falling apart after a few uses. Seriously not worth it. I bought $50 underarmor shoes and they have lasted 15x as long.
Something a lot of people even you seem to skip out on is the over reliance shoes like hoka, Nike, adidas, on, brooks, Solomon, etc. on your knees. Your knees are so important and it feels to me that these companies are quite literally abusing them. The definitive way you can tell if these shoes are reliant on the knees is if you walk with each shoe for 5-10 minutes and include running, focus on the knees themselves mentally and you will feel what I mean. This needs to be exposed, on actually has this issue with a couple of their models, the goal should be for each company to fix them.
I could be wrong, but I think a lot of companies don't say what materials certain things are made of for a few reasons. One they can change it later and not have to say, but I think the biggest is cheap ripoff brands ruining the material in the public eye. If a cheap brand uses "reinforced Kevlar" in their boot and it completely falls apart it makes better made boots of the same material look bad. This is why apple "brands" all their features even if it's common tech.
All synthetic materials at that price seems insane to me. Whenever I look at this brand at the store, they just feel and look cheap. I’ll still try some one day when I find some on sale
Don't know about their recent hiking boots, but in the ski and snowboard space Salomon has tanked completely since Anta took over. 20+ years making the best snowboard freeride boot on the market (the Malamute) - I have gone through 5 pairs in the last 20 years - and the current model is an absolute joke with no heel hold and completely lost the rigidity/comfort combo that it used to have. I had to return my 2023 Malamutes after 4 days on the slopes and swear off Salomon forever. Anta is destroying historic brands like Salomon and Arc'Terryx, it's a travesty...
Bought 4 pairs of ON running shoes, two for me two for my wife. All 4 pairs squeaking when we use them. Of course there is a fix for this but as it is a design fault just not good enough for over €600 purchase. Bought in store not directly from ON so process of engagement with customer service difficult. No comment on the issue I raised or acceptance of the design fault.
Get Rose Anvil coasters made from the same leather as your favorite boots here - bit.ly/3BtGnM2
Please do Chippewa Super Loggers? Had a pair for 7 years and was wondering.
Hello, can you do a video on the Represent HTN Low tumbled leather flat white? If so can you compare it to other white sneakers, like its quality and price?
If it is possible please try some motorcycle hiking boots, like TCX CLIMATREK SURROUND, or any other simmilar. I wonder if they will work in both places or will they fail in one or both
Nice review, Rose! I was the product manager for this, and our goal was to showcase how running technology can disrupt the traditionally conservative trekking and backpacking footwear industry. For example the heel cushioning, which is outstanding in such a segment and gives you a comfortable ride, when going down the mountain and another 5 miles back to your car. This boot is the perfect blend of stability and comfort.
Take a look at the forefoot rocker- it's quite high for a boot like this, but similar to those found in running shoes. The idea was to allow an easier rolling motion into each step without needing to bend the relatively stiff speedboard too much.
Speaking of the speedboard, it's not meant to be overly flexed. Instead, it provides stability to the boot and makes it versatile enough for climbing, even when leaning on small rock crevices.
As for the lacing system, we wanted to eliminate the need for locking hooks, so we designed a locking mechanism that makes it as easy as possible-just pull the lace tight. Once the lower eyestay is locked, you can lace up the top hooks however you prefer, without the lower part loosening.
Also, notice the lace itself. To make it run smoothly through the locking mechanism, it needs to be thin and stiff at the bottom, but thicker and softer at the top to maintain a good knot.
We developed this boot over several years, without a strict deadline, and launched it when we felt it was ready. A lot of thought went into it.
Hope you enjoy these insights. Happy to watch the rest of the series, I really enjoy your content. Keep going! Best regards from Switzerland
And now Sketchers has duplicated your products and will outsell you.
This is really cool insight! Wish they were resoleable for such high prices though
Your price point is ridiculous...
I know ON will never make a hunting boot, but I wish there was an uninsulated 8 inch boot with a carbon fiber plate inside. It could fair really well for lightweight hunting applications, and potentially military applications.
@@1htalp9 ever bought a swedish product? :D
11:13 it’s so nice they put the gaps in there for you so when you’re out hiking you can collect rocks without bending over
This is fashion, people want to stand out. Soon they will get bored with it and will see that it is not worth the price.
Such an "invention" is too obvious. Even Nike had more sense and did not use open vents, instead they made AIR MAX.
I've done a lot of backpacking, and one of the things that might not be immediately obvious is that you do not want your sole to be either too thick or too squishy, because you not only need to have some feel for what you're walking on, but the thicker and taller it gets, the easier it gets to twist an ankle. If you look at any sort of high-end, traditional, all leather Italian hiking boot, you are not going to find a lot of thick squishy soles. You're going to find extremely durable, extremely dependable boots that are fairly hard and rigid for ultimate support and stability, and comfort is next on the list after that.
Exactly. A stiff sole over rocky, rugged, uneven terrain - especially carrying a full pack - protects from injury and reduces fatigue by a huge margin.
These shoes would be ripped to shreds on some of the extended backpacks I have been on.
So badly designed for today?
You are reviewing meme hiking boots but have only reviewed 1/3 of the reference brands used by professional guides. You’ve done La Sportiva, I’d love to see Asolo and Scarpa boots when you get the chance. It would be great to see a real alpine or mountaineering boot cut open.
A good boot to start with could be a Scarpa Kinesis Pro GTX or Grand Dru GTX which are both very common in the pro world.
I have a pair of Scarpas, and while I could probably walk over a landmine and they'd be fine, they arebrutal to my feet. 13 years later, I still have them though, they still wear hard, but never wear out. I keep em because they're still waterproof and a good work shoe, and could probably out-survive anything in the zombie apocolypse, but not have comfy feet
Did he really do La Sportiva and Lowa though? Pretty crappy models he chose..
also Hanwag, love mine
I have put hundreds of miles going up and down the mountains of UT, in all seasons to include summer and winter (with snowshoes) using the Sportiva he tested. So far so good so I have to STRONGLY disagree about the term "crappy models".... Far better than many others at the price point level, they are not 600 boot but I didn't pay that.
I have 7 seasons on my kinesis
Would be interesting to see Mammut hiking boots. Having tried so many brands, after getting a pair of Mammut, I don't even look at other brands. Now I'm on my 4'th pair.
This happened to me with skiing/snowboarding gloves. I tried everything until I tried a pair of Mammut GTX gloves and now I swear by them.
For 330 a boot should be able to be resoled/rebuilt.
🥾 reBOOT😎
Truth
I agree
yeah, even though i don't know anyone who rebuilds boots or where i would go to get that done for less than $330 and i'd wager most people don't
For that money, it should also do my taxes and cook dinner. (Kidding)
They have these for $195 on the On website. I just ordered a pair. Thanks for the review.
I'm really enjoying the hiking/ backpacking boot series. Crispi and Hanwag are two highly recommended brands in the backpacking and hunting world but come with a hefty price tag. Many backcountry hunters will tell you never to skimp on boots, but $400+ is a big expense for most people. It would definitely be interesting to see a set of those get reviewed to see if they're actually worth it.
I've started watching your leather boots review and cut in half and really enjoyed them. When we move towards hiking boots, I have some reservations on this because brands sometimes don't aim to build the most durable boots so it might be a bit unfair to review them based on the standard for heritage boots
For walking, I wore the same pair of German paratroop boots for about 18 years until they finally broke down (they were already mil surplus used when I bought them for £20). I now wear my old running shoes to walk and they work great. Lightweight, grippy, super comfortable. I've looked to replace them with proper walkers for years but it doesn't make sense. Running companies making boots is a good idea.
I’ve had a pair of Danners for 17 years now. Acadia, love’em .
@@halojump123 My Danner Blackhawks are somewhere around 20 years old. They are heavy but they are great boots.
Having sold ON for a couple of years I can not believe a shoe could have so many warranty issues and still sell. Glue fails, materials fall apart quickly, midsole start to squeak or collapses etc etc. Salomon also started having issues with stitching and glue but to give ON some credit they truly did try to improve and listen to shop feedback. Salomon on the other hand is just a company cash grabbing on an old reputation for quality. Since Anta bought Amer their products just started to suck. Arc'teryx also started having QC issues since the Anta take over.
I have some On shoes that are decent, just bought some cross hike 2s from Salomon for hiking. Curious which brands you'd recommend for trekking clothing or shoes. Arc'teryx stuff was so expensive, and I had previously heard or read good things from the brand but that was a few years ago...
@@zlatkojerkovic9456 The pattern work on Arcteryx is great but the development of gear is poor and the material choices are sub par. For example their synthetics puffers use a lower CLO rated insulation than say Primaloft Gold and the materials tend to pill easily. Not good for the cost.
For the shoe choices it is a matter of what you do and where you do it. Shoes are tools not just foot covers so different models and brands are better for different places and people. Foot shape is a big thing, for example I have a Roman/Greek foot shape so love a 'narrower' european fit where I find the 'wide shoes' like Altra are narrow at my wide point and baggy at the toe making them very very poor for me. A germanic foot shape will love them. Brands... the Italians tend to last better down here in the southern hemisphere with our hasher climate. US brands do not do as well (Teva, Keen, Altra, Oboz etc) and Salomon is so heavily invested in the US market the quality has unfortunately fallen that way.
I know lots and lots of people who who bought a pair of on shoes for running. I know 2 or 3 people who bought a second pair.
Can you do a male versus female hiking boot series / episode? I don't think it happens so much now but I remember there was a time where it felt like companies would be cheap on their female versions. Other times there was female specific tech for example a higher drop then compared to the men's (for example some Asics have a higher drop or women compared to men)
That is a great idea
Ur risking UTUBE JAIL.
The more of your low-mid range hiking boot videos I see, the more I believe you would be quite positive about the Haglöfs Solid Pro GTX. Claimed 2+mm full grain upper with goretex membrane and vibram outsole. The insole seems like the least good part after 300 heavy miles but it's not bad, just bit too soft/weak. I paid ~170$ for mine three years ago.
I would love to see a series on traditional leather mountaineering boots, like your hiking boots series... the nepal evo, mont blanc, alpine expert, alta via, etc..
Thanks for letting me lnow about the leather coaster . I now use my shoe as a coaster
I used to do light hiking with a pair of Ons, back in 2016-2017. Getting pebbles out of the voids in the sole was annoying, but I lived with it. Until the day when, crossing a field, I stepped on sheep poop. As much as I tried to clean those voids by putting water through them with a hose, they were impossible to fully wash. Even after a spin in the washer, there was still a smell coming from poop residue inside those voids.
Sheep poop is hard little pellets I don't understand how this could have happened with sheep poop, are you sure it was not from a different animal?
@JefeBoss There were goats and cows around as well -- not an animal poop expert myself, but it sure was stinky.
Kevlar is a trademark of DuPont corporation. While thd material in these boots is likely very similar, it's probably not from DuPont so they can't use the name.
Hello! I was buying new hiking boots few months ago. I have tried out some pairs that you reviewed so far in this series, but finally ended up with Mammut Saupen High GTXs. Would love to see a video from you with review of those, as personalny I love them.
Been watching a lot of MAMMUT testing and am impressed . I like the looks of those. I prefer a heel/ ball separation profile like those as opposed to flat when it comes to boots. I have been wanting to try Mammut classics for a while. Got me looking again for some boots 😀
I love this series!
How about testing some good old Hanwag boots?
Or Meindl. In both cases the "zwiegenäht" (norwegian stitch) versions like the Meindl Perfekt!
Yeah, we do need some proper hiking boots review. All these gimmicks are not functional like Gore Tex.
Considering how all the common boots in the mid-tier range so far are just garbage I may go that route myself. Got an old pair of quest 4s, sad that the updated version isn't the same quality but significantly worse.
@@ckra2001 Yess!!! Would love to see that. Still breaking mine in!
I have a pair of those, got them 50% off on black week sale. Have not used them yet because I was kind of hesitant i will have use of them. I own Cloudmonster 2's (used every day for 5 moths straight. They give my feet the love they need after having rehabbed from plantar fasciatis for over a year), Cloudrock, used every day for almost a month, really comfortable for my feet. Cloudalpine, a bit narrower than the other two, don't like that but I think is jsut about fine anyway. I wanted a winter boot that would isolate the foot better. WIthout having tried I think the Cloudalpine wil isolate the foot slightly better than the Cloudrock since the fabrik over the foot is slightly thicker.
Size: I've used EU46 since forever BUT i purchased all my ON shoes in size EU47,5 after testing size blindly in a store. I was shocked by that, but worth knowing is that I put in my own molded/shaped ergonomic insoles in all of them, they are slightly chunkier than the the insoles that comes with the ON's.
Thought I'd share that to anyone who is curious about using ON shoes.
Im probably going to have regrets, but I would love to see a video on the Kenetrek Bridger Highs. I picked these up to replace La Sportiva Nucleos, and Id love to see them cut open. They definitely fit big feet better than the La Sportivas. I am still breaking them in before any hikes.
On is super popular on film sets for their comfort. They seem to be too narrow for my feet. I've found Underarmor Charged 9s to be surprisingly comfy for standing all day. Not sure if you've broken a pair of those down, but I'd love to see a video on them.
Kevlar most likely requires royalties to use their product/name and On might be using just a generic version.
Kevlar is a brand (TM by DuPont) just like Gore-Tex. They may be using a knock-off which performs almost as good for a fraction of the price without the marketing BS, which I actually appreciate. Edit: to add, they allow fair use of their brand if you buy the product. It is very likely a knock-off so they aren't making any claims to avoid any blow-back.
@@hillogicalnot just "almost as good", it could work better for shoes. Kevlar is great for taking a bullet, but, as a competitive snare drummer, we've moved beyond Kevlar for our drum heads. Kevlar breaks way too easily under tension. Kevlar also shreds really easily and would be terrible on the outside of a shoe.
@DavidRon yes it is terrible. A few Kevlar strands barely does anything for that boot. Just another gimmick.
Just like Gore Tex. It's either breathable or water resistant. It cannot be both at the same time.
Gore tex disappeared for a long time, can't believe it's showing up in a lot of shoes now.
@@DavidRon “ Kevlar is great for taking a bullet “ not really. A 7.62 goes right through it. Ceramic is the way to go.
It’s clear people don’t understand how Kevlar stops bullets. It’s not ‘bullet proof’ just like no surface is ‘slip proof’. Hopefully there’s a UA-cam video to explain all this somewhere
I'd love you to dissect more On shoes to look at how their more popular models are built.
Considering their price-point, I feel it'd be similar to the golden goose video.
Hey guys, love the content! I was looking as some footwear recently and I noticed 2 boots I think you guys could do a video on. The brand they're from is Minnetonka and while I was looking for some loafers or slippers I noticed they released a new boot called the men's Torrey and because the brand is known for Moccasins I was wondering if you guys could do a cut in half video on it for moctoeber to see if the the boot really is true moc. If it's too late for that suggestion I understand they also have the two button boot that featured in the film Once Apon a Time in Hollywood which could also be somewhat interesting.
ALL OF MY 'ON' SHOES DID NOT HOLD UP!! In 4 months, my ON hiking boots were sooooo messed up & looked like a car accident patient with all the fix ups w shoe glue, & anything i could to still use my shoes. They dont resole the shoes or offer anything. They're Vibram soles. Why not? Vans gave me places to go resole my work shoes that do Vibram soles.
Really nice looking hiking boot imo. Kinda pricey. Love ur content always a great watch. I’d love to see what u have to say a bout any new balance shoes with the fuel cell in them like the new rebel v4 or the trainer v3 I have a pair of the rebels and it just insane how much cushion is in them.
Any chance of a Grisport Hiking boot review?
I do a lot of miles, 80 to 100 per week, I`ve killed off a pair of boots in two weeks, These boots and the lighter coudrock 2 are by far the best boots I`ve ever come across, the only way they have failed on me is by wearing the heel down on one side and that is after 2000 miles or more, even then the boots are good for purpose just not as good as they have been. outstanding, well worth the money.
I got their earlier boot which must be over 3 years old and still look and feel brand new if I wipe them. Most comfortable footwear next to my Vivo.
Regarding your coasters my local distillery uses horween chromexcel as their coasters. You can smell them then the peated malt and your nose might connect the two
People act like they are a meme but the On Cloudmonsters i own are the most comfortable shoes i have ever worn in my life. Its unreal how comfortable they are.
Mammut is also a classic Swiss brand that I unfortunately feel is very underrepresented in the UA-cam/online space. Maybe you could review one of their shoes aswell?
The cloudtec holes are terrible for hiking. rocks and mud just get stuck in them and make the comfort terrible. I have literally gotten injured because of this.
@derekschinke. i went to comments looking for observers who would spot that achilles heel…immediately. Anyone with even slight experience at off-road hiking would see how ridiculous that glaring weakness is. Why even review this joke of a boot? For indoor only treadmill hikers?
Thank you. This was my first thought.
Found this extremely narrow compared to other ON models, had to unfortunately return, love the design
More Rocky and Danner boots, please. Boots frequently used by the military
the best advantage of the ripstop is that it stops rips
Hey uh
Have you had a reason to check out the beretta wolf boa boots yet? Looking tempting for a versatile daily boot
man you guys realy should compile all your cutting in half asmr parts becuse dam they are satifying for the ears and sensetion
I'm doing research on hiking footwear. I am still in the shoe/boot/trail runner decision making process. These ON boots look really epic, but that price tag is darn high. I got my Whites Perry boots for less.
Killer Review!! Dont forget -Addidas was the one that changed the game w/ BOOST although they lost their lead by slacking on pushing innovative visual designs for their outers -- all these brands look cool but i need room for natural toe splay - so i went w/ last years ALTRA'S on sale :) hoping someone will release a natural toe splay style knee high muck/hunting boot soon - they don't exist yet (unless you wana have them custom designed for $$1000 ??
Have you ever done a Zamberlan boot? The Lynx specifically.
I feel kevlar (or imitation kevlar) might be a bit overkill for hiking for most people. Kinda feels like they're on to a gimmick here😅 I think for the logo is meant to be a pictogram of a lil person. O is the head, n is the body.
Watched many vids, but still left wondering; what is the cut-centered score? 😅
I would love a Black - RAL 7013 colorway. No white, no red. Total Black would do, too.
It‘s a glued construction, isn‘t it? I guess they just don‘t sell the volumes.
I like them, a lot. Though, I would appreciate a toned down colour. Think Salomon Forces line meets Aku NS 564. By the way, you should review the latter.
Love the content Weston could you cut in half the redwing 2415 moc toe wedge sole
And could you also cut in half the Chippewa super logger
I really like those!!! BUT NO SIZE 12 MEN!!! Great review as always.
Kevlar is a brand name version of polyamide fabric (aka Aramid) produced by DuPont. If they don't source their Aramid fabric from DuPont, they can't call it Kevlar.
$330? The profit margin must be colossal... I would NEVER buy this.
Toe~tally
Thanks Rose! the heel counter seems quite stiff that provided a good protection, right? what is the breathability of this ON?
I'm wondering if you've ever reviewed Zamberlain boots? I love mine.
I want those hawthorne muleskinner clogs!!
Climbing ropes are nylon, not leather, so I always wondered by not a nylon boot?
Is there a video of kavler boots from Huckberry? This are really cool
The real test of hiking 🥾 is what happens when you actually hike 100km in them. Will the rubber separate from ripstop? Are you able to drive tent stake into the hard ground without damaging a sole?
And then there's personal stuff like foot shape. Some brands, no matter how good they are just have a wrong toebox shape for some people.
As someone used to running shoes that last 6 months -1 year and hiking boots lasting around 10 years how do you think a hiking boot made by a running shoe company would last.
Kevlar is an aramid, aramid is short for "aromatic polyamide", so yeah kevlar is a polyamide.
Aramids actually have a lot of similar properties to nylon including similar moisture management and breathability.
Imo it's almost certainly a gimmick here but that makes it all the more perplexing that they draw no attention to it lol
This reminds me of the LLBean Speed Guide boots from 20 years ago.
I would really like to see some Scarpa Mojito shoes. They look so simple yet so comfortable for walking. How the hell they achieved that.
PLEASE DO THE VASQUE SUNDOWNERS AND ST. ELIAS XT! Thanks!
You should do Inov8 boots next
Ripstop nylon has been around for 80 years. It is not just nylon that can be made ripstop but it is the most common version of ripstop due to its tendency to unravel if snagged.
Kevlar is made from Aramid fibres and trademarked so it is unlikely to be genuine Kevlar as it would say so. It could be a similar fibre.
I think that the use of foams in technical equipment is a mistake, a trekking boot must survive until you get home. And another important issue is the expiration of the materials, from one moment to the next they can degrade.
Should do Nike's Cygnal in this series.
Any chance of us seeing the Nike Alphafly 3 runners dissected please?
have you seen thursday’s challenger boots? any thoughts? do you think you’re gonna end up doing a video on them or probably not?
Please do a video on the jim green Numzaan boot
Do an updated winter boot video and include “Pajar” boots…
9:23 new? You haven’t worn Lowa’s zephyr mk 2 boot yet
I just call them On Cloud since it seems like all their models have a cloud prefix in the name. They should just go with that for sure.
I hate the brand. I got their shoes once and they started falling apart after a few uses. Seriously not worth it. I bought $50 underarmor shoes and they have lasted 15x as long.
Dude, I think you got a fluke. Their support is really helpful
@@AlvB218 What good is their support if you bought from a local store? It's not like they can refund you.
@@cristi724It's still an original product, so if you kept the reciept, then you can contact the brand directly.
@@okimy3668 That is some extreme wishful thinking. Receipts are good to wipe your ass in a global market with almost 200 countries and many scammers.
Their warranty would have taken them back.
How are these holes in the sole not get filled with dirt, rocks and mud?
Please cut up some zamberlan 996! id love to see
Something a lot of people even you seem to skip out on is the over reliance shoes like hoka, Nike, adidas, on, brooks, Solomon, etc. on your knees. Your knees are so important and it feels to me that these companies are quite literally abusing them. The definitive way you can tell if these shoes are reliant on the knees is if you walk with each shoe for 5-10 minutes and include running, focus on the knees themselves mentally and you will feel what I mean. This needs to be exposed, on actually has this issue with a couple of their models, the goal should be for each company to fix them.
I could be wrong, but I think a lot of companies don't say what materials certain things are made of for a few reasons. One they can change it later and not have to say, but I think the biggest is cheap ripoff brands ruining the material in the public eye. If a cheap brand uses "reinforced Kevlar" in their boot and it completely falls apart it makes better made boots of the same material look bad. This is why apple "brands" all their features even if it's common tech.
Have you considered reviewing any Tabi shoes???
All synthetic materials at that price seems insane to me. Whenever I look at this brand at the store, they just feel and look cheap. I’ll still try some one day when I find some on sale
These actually seem really interesting. Tempted.
Were you able to get ahold of the new MSCHF backwards shoes?
How come this shoe isn’t offered on there site
What are those clog style shoes that are shown at 4:41? They look like just what I need.
@RoseAnvil I want to see them vs the Naglev WP and the Salmon 4d.
Whats with all the open foam soles on boots and shoes now?
Will it protect my foot from snake bites from the side and top?
The outsole looks quite thin. I wouldn't expect it to last that long hiking.
gonna do a truman boot review?
I would try this brand if only they'd be cheaper and more accessible.
19:39 you and me both bro. They may not be the best but damnit I love my Salomons
Don't know about their recent hiking boots, but in the ski and snowboard space Salomon has tanked completely since Anta took over. 20+ years making the best snowboard freeride boot on the market (the Malamute) - I have gone through 5 pairs in the last 20 years - and the current model is an absolute joke with no heel hold and completely lost the rigidity/comfort combo that it used to have. I had to return my 2023 Malamutes after 4 days on the slopes and swear off Salomon forever. Anta is destroying historic brands like Salomon and Arc'Terryx, it's a travesty...
What about arcteryx acrux lt boots?, Will you evaluaré It?
Bought 4 pairs of ON running shoes, two for me two for my wife. All 4 pairs squeaking when we use them. Of course there is a fix for this but as it is a design fault just not good enough for over €600 purchase. Bought in store not directly from ON so process of engagement with customer service difficult. No comment on the issue I raised or acceptance of the design fault.
My friend saw my On shoes and he thought it was the new logo of "DC" skate shoes. Bro I'm cryingggggg
I'll have to get a pair these before I..."kick the bucket " 😂
Can you do SALEWA WILDFIRE EDGE MID GTX?
Please test Zamberlan boot
Oh to be a fly on the wall in those Nike meetings where they're asking whatever decision maker why the hell they said no 😂
They know this is a short-term gimmick. Sketchers is now copying this cloud tech look and will likely outsell On.
Test some Salewa boots??