It looks like my record is already a thing of the past. Shenmue runner Karl, friend and viewer of the channel, has not only beaten my time and reclaimed the record, but also achieved the sub 2:30 milestone with a 2:29.53 run! 🤯 Please watch his videos and show him some love, what he did is historical! 👏 Karl's 2:30 Run - 70 Man Battle in 2:29.53 → ua-cam.com/video/IlvxPa6LoyA/v-deo.html As for me, I will try my best to also join the sub 2:30 club, just unsure of when I'll get around to doing that. Hopefully sooner rather than later! 🙏 Update March 23rd: I've joined the club too with a world record time of 2:25.56! → ua-cam.com/video/g9YlKeTsQK8/v-deo.html
I really, really don't believe in Karl he can pass the 2:30 wall! And a very historic run to shenmue. maybe he was too obsessed with miracles. he did less than a month. But I hope you succeed Richard Payne to join the 2:30 club.. but no matter what Richard payne is still the best And karl is Master shenmue copycat.😂
@@user-nm3nu7nt1g Ah thanks buddy, warms my heart knowing you think so highly of me, I will try my best to hit the goal too! 😎 I’ve come close so many times I’m confident I can do it. It’s just a matter of finding the time and patience to go through the process, and of course Pedro needs to chill out and stop dodging Tiger Storm. 🤬 Honestly, when I started this channel my goal was not only to show off the skills I’d developed during my play time, but also inspiring other people to do the same, learn more about Shenmue’s combat system and, even better, start doing their own runs in the 70 Man Battle. Karl is the very first person I met that did exactly what I imagined 4 years ago, going as far as beating my times and getting the record. Yeah, his style is very similar to mine, but we all have to start from somewhere. It could be argued that my style is a copycat's too, seeing as I was inspired by TheKenjitoMaster and afterblue. Now that sub 2:30 has been accomplished, it will be interesting to see where we go from here. As crazy as it sounds, sub 2:25 is hard, but also doable. Judging by how skilled and passionate Karl is, I could see him go for that as the next goal! However, it’s perfectly understandable if he decides to stop for now. He deserves some rest after what he did! 👏
@@thatsmekarl5365 No worries Karl, it’s been a pleasure to help you out on your journey! Discovering your channel and seeing your skills and times slowly develop to where they are now have been a blast to follow. I’m proud of you buddy! 😎 About Ryo’s model, the thing is there are more than 10 different models for Ryo, which the game uses in a variety of different scenarios (for example, Ryo without his jacket, used when sparring with Fuku-san, or Ryo with his jacket but without shoes, used when walking through home etc.). The infamous passport model actually only contains Ryo’s face and some of the torso (albeit, with incredibly high poly count), while everything else simply doesn't exist (because those parts of the body were never meant to be used and thus shown). With some clever modding, it’s possible to create a new model for Ryo (I can’t do it but other people have succeeded) which uses the passport data and combines it with the default model to create the ultimate Ryo! The problem is almost all of the Dreamcast RAM gets filled just by loading that model, thus causing the game to struggle to load all other data (map, other models, textures, audio and so on) and, in most cases, freeze. The model I use in this video (which is also featured in the image I’ve shared on my drive) is Ryo’s high poly FREE battle model with high poly hands attached. Normally, a low poly variant of Ryo’s would be used in the 70 Man Battle, but nothing bad happened when I forced this "HQ" version to load, so I figured this was the best model I could get to work without making the game lag or, even worse, freeze. 😛
congratulations payne!🎉... quite an amazing run with the "Double Wall Glitch" possible .even though I was only named the New champion for a while😅... we have to keep running for sub 2:30!! that's... I just wanted to pass sub 2:30 but Pedro never wanted that. But once in a while a miracle will happen if sub 2:30 really exists! although it will never happen. next time I will try the "Double wall glitch" if Pedro doesn't avoid it will definitely happen.. but anyway congratulations to you for becoming the world's no.1 champion
Thank you Karl! I will admit, I probably never would have achieved this time if it wasn’t for your record giving me incentive to go back to the 70 Man Battle. Luck played a huge role into this too, as you probably realize how incredibly lucky I got at the end with the double Wall Glitch (so many things could have gone wrong and they didn’t!). I have to be honest and say this run was just a fluke and I could never replicate this strategy again without getting lucky again! 😵 Don’t feel discouraged to keep trying when you feel like it. You have the skill and the knowledge, just like me. I wouldn’t use the double Wall Glitch unless you’re on a bad pace and you want to try your luck. It worked for me this time, but it never worked in the past. 💀 As much as it pains me to say it, all we need is RNG to cooperate and Pedro to go down as quickly as possible, something we have zero control over. We could even reach sub 2:20 with these strategies, all we need to is to play well and get lucky! 😖
@@RichardPayne5hey payne i want to analyze your (3rdpb) 2:01 run. wow that's crazy even recently i didn't chase that run.. let me analyze this solid run...
@@thatsmekarl5365 Hey Karl, go right ahead if you want to, but honestly, there’s not much to analyze. I just play well and get lucky throughout the run. Pedro’s segment was the crucial moment in the run, as it could have definitely gone a different way and I could have got a sub 2:30 there, but history says otherwise. 😞 I start with Darkside Hazuki… kinda regret not going for Cyclone Kick and hoping to get a lucky Wall Glitch out of it, but I do damage Pedro and defeat the two nearby opponents in-between with Dark Moon, so maybe it was the right play. From there, I try to use Vortex Throw to throw Pedro in the opposite direction, which is where the “best” wall is, but my alignment is off and Ryo performs a grab attempt… luckily, Pedro uses one of his weaker moves and offers me another opening straight after; too bad he decides to dodge that Vortex throw attempt. Then, Ryo target-switches from Pedro to the other guy, resulting in Surplice Slash aiming at the wrong target and me getting hit by the BS Drop Kick… I should have seen that coming, but I didn’t, and lost precious time. At this point, I try to salvage what I can and go for a in-between Cyclone Kick with the intention of hitting both Pedro and his last minion, but I end up only hitting Pedro, while the other guy manages to hit me for just a matter of frames… I counter with Windmill, but I really should have gone for Rain Thrust instead, as Ryo doesn’t recover fast enough for me to block or dodge Pedro’s Drop Kick. Yet another small mistake. Now that only Pedro remains and the run is almost dead, I decide to bait Pedro into the Wall Glitch zone myself. I perform a 180 and somehow dodge Pedro’s Drop Kick (that should have definitely hit me), then bait him near the boundaries and Pedro falls for it. The Wall Glitch setup could have worked, if only Pedro didn’t dodge yet again. That’s where the run truly died. I do end up successfully using the Wall Glitch + Demon Drop strategies, but it was too late. 💀 These are my two cents on what I think is the highlight of this run, for better or worse. 😭 EDIT: Almost forgot. Since getting this 2:01 failed run, I got many sub 2:00 runs, with my new best 66 defeated being a 1:57.66 time! Too bad Pedro never seems to cooperate, but I do play my role in these failed runs too. 😟
@@RichardPayne5 tq payne.. but with a 1:57 run really really crazy.. and i know why it didn't reach sub 2:30 and so know how pedro didn't cooperate😅. And I myself want to reach that fast time of 1:57.. but I can't find the way.. there are two problems between boss 2 (stickguy) being defeated in 1:17. I'm lucky enough and one of the biggest pitfalls is the segment before Pedro also with pedro it's also a big problem if the wrong move like you said in the 2:01 run starts "Dark side hazuki" and everything is messed up.. Btw i will try my luck and you too.. Good luck👩🎤
Ryo does take training very seriously! If he truly shares a bond with Akira from Virtua Fighter, albeit spiritually, then we can be sure he's destined for greatness! 🥋
@@Monhamd1000 I can see myself making a video compiling all FREE battles (optional fights included), but I’m not interested in the prospect of making an entire walkthrough, as I’d rather focus on the combat aspect of the series, which is one thing not many people have made videos about. Maybe in the future 🤞
I can see why you’d say that, but actually we’re just using the fastest route and best techniques to try and save as many seconds as possible, hence why our playstyle is almost identical. 😅 I myself have been playing for years and have contributed to some of the strategies we use today. For example, the Wall Glitch tech was something I found by accident in 2020 and have since implemented in the main route we use today. Before that, we used to just fight BOSS 2 and BOSS 3 as normal or with the Demon Drop spam. The main route we use and most of the knowledge do come from other Shenmue runners, (mainly "TheKenjitoMaster" and "afterblue"), who were playing the 70 Man Battle even before Karl and I did. Thus our runs are the result of many people’s knowledge and experience with the game’s combat system. 🧐
Hi, the fonts I use are from the Dreamcast version of Shenmue. I don’t remember where I got them from, but you can find them on this thread from the old Shenmue Dojo forums under section “Fonts and Misc”. "Shenmue I Assets Catalogue" from the old Shenmue Dojo forums → www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50118 At 3:52, I photoshopped the “2:32.90” text out of the frame, then recolored it red, then overlayed it on top of the video turning it on and off every 4 (I think?) frames. It’s a pretty common effect, but I did it as a nod to Crash Team Racing, a game I used to do time trials on back in the day.
@@thatsmekarl5365 Shenmue Dojo contacted me about a year ago asking me if I’d be willing to let them post my videos on their channel too, as they apparently really liked them. Being a Shenmue fan and having always relied on their site for news, content, and discussions, it was a no brainer for me to accept. 😬 I’ve been sharing my videos with them since then, hence why I’m also trying to put more effort into the editing. If you’re interested into doing the same, you could try and hit them up on one of their social accounts. They’re always eager to share more content that depicts the series on a positive note, so I can see them taking an interest in your new record run. 🙏 As an alternative, you could look into posting your content on other platforms, such as reddit, the Dojo forums, social networks and so on. 🤔
@@thatsmekarl5365 Whaaaaaatt? Your run has been claimed? UA-cam makes zero sense. Hope you’re able to get it sorted out. 🙏 Don’t feel bad about your editing, we’re not professional video makers after all. What matters is we put our heart and love for Shenmue into it, and you’ll see the community will recognize our efforts! 👊
@@ArmBreakFire1234 I use Shotcut (free video editing software) to edit footage and Adobe Photoshop 2021 for miscellaneous additional editing, such as the flashing red text we’re talking about here.
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It looks like my record is already a thing of the past. Shenmue runner Karl, friend and viewer of the channel, has not only beaten my time and reclaimed the record, but also achieved the sub 2:30 milestone with a 2:29.53 run! 🤯
Please watch his videos and show him some love, what he did is historical! 👏
Karl's 2:30 Run - 70 Man Battle in 2:29.53 → ua-cam.com/video/IlvxPa6LoyA/v-deo.html
As for me, I will try my best to also join the sub 2:30 club, just unsure of when I'll get around to doing that. Hopefully sooner rather than later! 🙏
Update March 23rd: I've joined the club too with a world record time of 2:25.56! → ua-cam.com/video/g9YlKeTsQK8/v-deo.html
I really, really don't believe in Karl he can pass the 2:30 wall! And a very historic run to shenmue. maybe he was too obsessed with miracles. he did less than a month. But I hope you succeed Richard Payne to join the 2:30 club..
but no matter what Richard payne is still the best And karl is Master shenmue copycat.😂
@@user-nm3nu7nt1g Ah thanks buddy, warms my heart knowing you think so highly of me, I will try my best to hit the goal too! 😎 I’ve come close so many times I’m confident I can do it. It’s just a matter of finding the time and patience to go through the process, and of course Pedro needs to chill out and stop dodging Tiger Storm. 🤬
Honestly, when I started this channel my goal was not only to show off the skills I’d developed during my play time, but also inspiring other people to do the same, learn more about Shenmue’s combat system and, even better, start doing their own runs in the 70 Man Battle.
Karl is the very first person I met that did exactly what I imagined 4 years ago, going as far as beating my times and getting the record. Yeah, his style is very similar to mine, but we all have to start from somewhere. It could be argued that my style is a copycat's too, seeing as I was inspired by TheKenjitoMaster and afterblue.
Now that sub 2:30 has been accomplished, it will be interesting to see where we go from here. As crazy as it sounds, sub 2:25 is hard, but also doable. Judging by how skilled and passionate Karl is, I could see him go for that as the next goal! However, it’s perfectly understandable if he decides to stop for now. He deserves some rest after what he did! 👏
@@thatsmekarl5365 No worries Karl, it’s been a pleasure to help you out on your journey! Discovering your channel and seeing your skills and times slowly develop to where they are now have been a blast to follow. I’m proud of you buddy! 😎
About Ryo’s model, the thing is there are more than 10 different models for Ryo, which the game uses in a variety of different scenarios (for example, Ryo without his jacket, used when sparring with Fuku-san, or Ryo with his jacket but without shoes, used when walking through home etc.).
The infamous passport model actually only contains Ryo’s face and some of the torso (albeit, with incredibly high poly count), while everything else simply doesn't exist (because those parts of the body were never meant to be used and thus shown). With some clever modding, it’s possible to create a new model for Ryo (I can’t do it but other people have succeeded) which uses the passport data and combines it with the default model to create the ultimate Ryo! The problem is almost all of the Dreamcast RAM gets filled just by loading that model, thus causing the game to struggle to load all other data (map, other models, textures, audio and so on) and, in most cases, freeze.
The model I use in this video (which is also featured in the image I’ve shared on my drive) is Ryo’s high poly FREE battle model with high poly hands attached. Normally, a low poly variant of Ryo’s would be used in the 70 Man Battle, but nothing bad happened when I forced this "HQ" version to load, so I figured this was the best model I could get to work without making the game lag or, even worse, freeze. 😛
congratulations payne!🎉... quite an amazing run with the "Double Wall Glitch" possible .even though I was only named the New champion for a while😅... we have to keep running for sub 2:30!! that's...
I just wanted to pass sub 2:30 but Pedro never wanted that. But once in a while a miracle will happen if sub 2:30 really exists! although it will never happen. next time I will try the "Double wall glitch" if Pedro doesn't avoid it will definitely happen.. but anyway congratulations to you for becoming the world's no.1 champion
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Thank you Karl! I will admit, I probably never would have achieved this time if it wasn’t for your record giving me incentive to go back to the 70 Man Battle. Luck played a huge role into this too, as you probably realize how incredibly lucky I got at the end with the double Wall Glitch (so many things could have gone wrong and they didn’t!). I have to be honest and say this run was just a fluke and I could never replicate this strategy again without getting lucky again! 😵
Don’t feel discouraged to keep trying when you feel like it. You have the skill and the knowledge, just like me. I wouldn’t use the double Wall Glitch unless you’re on a bad pace and you want to try your luck. It worked for me this time, but it never worked in the past. 💀
As much as it pains me to say it, all we need is RNG to cooperate and Pedro to go down as quickly as possible, something we have zero control over. We could even reach sub 2:20 with these strategies, all we need to is to play well and get lucky! 😖
@@RichardPayne5hey payne i want to analyze your (3rdpb) 2:01 run. wow that's crazy even recently i didn't chase that run.. let me analyze this solid run...
@@thatsmekarl5365 Hey Karl, go right ahead if you want to, but honestly, there’s not much to analyze. I just play well and get lucky throughout the run. Pedro’s segment was the crucial moment in the run, as it could have definitely gone a different way and I could have got a sub 2:30 there, but history says otherwise. 😞
I start with Darkside Hazuki… kinda regret not going for Cyclone Kick and hoping to get a lucky Wall Glitch out of it, but I do damage Pedro and defeat the two nearby opponents in-between with Dark Moon, so maybe it was the right play. From there, I try to use Vortex Throw to throw Pedro in the opposite direction, which is where the “best” wall is, but my alignment is off and Ryo performs a grab attempt… luckily, Pedro uses one of his weaker moves and offers me another opening straight after; too bad he decides to dodge that Vortex throw attempt. Then, Ryo target-switches from Pedro to the other guy, resulting in Surplice Slash aiming at the wrong target and me getting hit by the BS Drop Kick… I should have seen that coming, but I didn’t, and lost precious time.
At this point, I try to salvage what I can and go for a in-between Cyclone Kick with the intention of hitting both Pedro and his last minion, but I end up only hitting Pedro, while the other guy manages to hit me for just a matter of frames… I counter with Windmill, but I really should have gone for Rain Thrust instead, as Ryo doesn’t recover fast enough for me to block or dodge Pedro’s Drop Kick. Yet another small mistake.
Now that only Pedro remains and the run is almost dead, I decide to bait Pedro into the Wall Glitch zone myself. I perform a 180 and somehow dodge Pedro’s Drop Kick (that should have definitely hit me), then bait him near the boundaries and Pedro falls for it. The Wall Glitch setup could have worked, if only Pedro didn’t dodge yet again. That’s where the run truly died. I do end up successfully using the Wall Glitch + Demon Drop strategies, but it was too late. 💀
These are my two cents on what I think is the highlight of this run, for better or worse. 😭
EDIT: Almost forgot. Since getting this 2:01 failed run, I got many sub 2:00 runs, with my new best 66 defeated being a 1:57.66 time! Too bad Pedro never seems to cooperate, but I do play my role in these failed runs too. 😟
@@RichardPayne5 tq payne..
but with a 1:57 run really really crazy..
and i know why it didn't reach sub 2:30 and so know how pedro didn't cooperate😅.
And I myself want to reach that fast time of 1:57.. but I can't find the way.. there are two problems between boss 2 (stickguy) being defeated in 1:17. I'm lucky enough and one of the biggest pitfalls is the segment before Pedro also with pedro it's also a big problem if the wrong move like you said in the 2:01 run starts "Dark side hazuki" and everything is messed up..
Btw i will try my luck and you too.. Good luck👩🎤
Ryo gets stronger everyday!
Similar to Ryu from streets.
Ryo does take training very seriously! If he truly shares a bond with Akira from Virtua Fighter, albeit spiritually, then we can be sure he's destined for greatness! 🥋
@@RichardPayne5 Btw, you should upload a 100% walkthrough of Shemue Definitive Edition with all the right choices and fights with no damage.
@@Monhamd1000 I can see myself making a video compiling all FREE battles (optional fights included), but I’m not interested in the prospect of making an entire walkthrough, as I’d rather focus on the combat aspect of the series, which is one thing not many people have made videos about. Maybe in the future 🤞
It looks like you are trying to follow the play its me karl style in pedro's part
I can see why you’d say that, but actually we’re just using the fastest route and best techniques to try and save as many seconds as possible, hence why our playstyle is almost identical. 😅
I myself have been playing for years and have contributed to some of the strategies we use today. For example, the Wall Glitch tech was something I found by accident in 2020 and have since implemented in the main route we use today. Before that, we used to just fight BOSS 2 and BOSS 3 as normal or with the Demon Drop spam.
The main route we use and most of the knowledge do come from other Shenmue runners, (mainly "TheKenjitoMaster" and "afterblue"), who were playing the 70 Man Battle even before Karl and I did. Thus our runs are the result of many people’s knowledge and experience with the game’s combat system. 🧐
hye, what type of fonts? did you use 3:52 flashes of red?
Hi, the fonts I use are from the Dreamcast version of Shenmue. I don’t remember where I got them from, but you can find them on this thread from the old Shenmue Dojo forums under section “Fonts and Misc”.
"Shenmue I Assets Catalogue" from the old Shenmue Dojo forums → www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50118
At 3:52, I photoshopped the “2:32.90” text out of the frame, then recolored it red, then overlayed it on top of the video turning it on and off every 4 (I think?) frames. It’s a pretty common effect, but I did it as a nod to Crash Team Racing, a game I used to do time trials on back in the day.
@@thatsmekarl5365 Shenmue Dojo contacted me about a year ago asking me if I’d be willing to let them post my videos on their channel too, as they apparently really liked them. Being a Shenmue fan and having always relied on their site for news, content, and discussions, it was a no brainer for me to accept. 😬
I’ve been sharing my videos with them since then, hence why I’m also trying to put more effort into the editing. If you’re interested into doing the same, you could try and hit them up on one of their social accounts. They’re always eager to share more content that depicts the series on a positive note, so I can see them taking an interest in your new record run. 🙏
As an alternative, you could look into posting your content on other platforms, such as reddit, the Dojo forums, social networks and so on. 🤔
@@thatsmekarl5365 Whaaaaaatt? Your run has been claimed? UA-cam makes zero sense. Hope you’re able to get it sorted out. 🙏
Don’t feel bad about your editing, we’re not professional video makers after all. What matters is we put our heart and love for Shenmue into it, and you’ll see the community will recognize our efforts! 👊
@@RichardPayne5 what kind video editor did u use? And what kind photoshop do u use for red flash font...
@@ArmBreakFire1234 I use Shotcut (free video editing software) to edit footage and Adobe Photoshop 2021 for miscellaneous additional editing, such as the flashing red text we’re talking about here.