*EDIT:* LIONSGATE blocked this video in multiple countries unless I trimmed out certain segments - I'll try to get the unaltered version up somewhere, but they didn't want me saying the premise of the movie, what the villain change was, and that Shelly had involvement with the villain - here's the dialogue that was cut and the Time Stamps they were originally at: *4:38* - But, basic premise of THE CROW is that a young couple are brutally murdered and through the strength of his love and restlessness of his soul, Eric is given the ability to come back to set things right by killing everyone involved *11:48* - Instead of the baddies just being a regular criminal gang or a group of addicts - the man who’s hunting her and her friends down made a deal to trade innocent souls for his immortality - and that man is Vincent Roeg *15:55* - That she can’t tell him about her past and whatever does tie into Roeg and why she doesn’t like playing music anymore because he’d leave her Thanks to Raycon for letting me drown out the sounds of this dialogue! Go to buyraycon.com/JEDI for 15% off your order, plus free shipping!
Thank you so much for mentioning the new protégé girl! I haven't seen anyone else bring her up. I thought if they just let Eric save her at the end I would at least be happy with the climax but nope! She's just gone from the movie! 🤦♀️
What really bothers me about this movie is the fact the filmmakers didn't understand the meaning of Eric's makeup. Eric's makeup represents the theatre mask for irony to symbolize that he is a walking contradiction. Yet the filmmakers seemed to think "ooh edgy makeup for our emo hero."
Like literally the original film had a scene where Eric saves Sarah and she asked "Sre you a clown" and Eric replies "Sometimes" It's cause just like Jesters and Maniquinns they have to pretend to be happy when in reality they are deep of guilt and sorrow...that's why it ends with "It can't rain all the time" Which reflects the whole theme of the film That even though the most darkest and saddest times, things can get better. This movie made literally NO SENSE
The biggest problem is that Eric & Shelly seem like that couple that gets engaged after 2 weeks, then break up & drag all their friends into it, then once they've made everyone pick sides, they get back together.
That would be an entertaining movie, if the couple behaves that way, and they think of themselves as basically like the couple from the original The Crow, even though what they're really doing is just annoying everyone around them.
It took me one scene to watch it and I was cringing like crazy. Like the dynamic between Eric and Shelly just ain't at all like the comic or movie. It feels more like some cringe emo couple than the actual emotional connection you could feel in the comic.
Thank you for bringing up Eric and Shelley's drug use in this film because it kinda bothers me, considering the original film and the comic book have a bit of an anti-drug message, since it was irresponsible substance use that caused the drunk driving accident that killed James O'Barr's fiancée. I'd get it if they were going to explore the complexities of drug use and addiction, but they don't do that. Eric and Shelley just...randomly get high for no reason. Honestly, knowing that they meet in rehab only to escape to get high makes them a little less likeable, imho.
As Amanda mentioned, the original film really made the bad guys complete drugheads. The four killers are so drug-addled they're literally swallowing bullets in one scene and Michael Wincott's Top Dollar makes a mock salute towards the first of the foursome killed by doing a snort off of a Scarface-style pile of cocaine. So having Eric and Shelly just be casual drug users in this one is pointless unless there's some story angle and this one doesn't have it.
Right? I don't view addiction as a moral failing, but the way they portray it in our leads here is just a slap in the face to the comic's purpose. If the movie had done everything else right and had them with this character trait, I'd still hate the movie, that's how much it bothers me. I feel like they were addicts because the director thinks all the cool alt folks that might be interested in this are addicts? Just such a horrible choice.
The entire scene in the original when he pulls the drugs out of the girls mother’s arm was so good and such a great message. He helped her become a better mother for her child. It was a very anti drug/crime movie. I hate what they did to it in this remake.
@@BloodSweatandFearsJunkies are people who deserve sympathy and some respect. But I've no interest in a film with grubby drug users at its heart - it immediately turns me off this film.
That "mother is the word for god" moment in the 1994 film enraged me. When you grow up in an abusive household with physical violence and sexual assault as random prize pulls, and your mother is a twenty-one years older than you overgrown child who responds to your "special needs" with more abuse, you have a whole other phrase in mind when you hear "mother". Something like "stupid cunt who did not abort me", for those who do not speak Dwarvish. Everything sounds far grimmer in Dwarvish. My mother heard me say that phrase in Dwarvish and never phoned me again.
One of the problems with this movie is that the two leads' "love" isn't love; it's co-dependence. And co-dependence doesn't exactly tug at my heartstrings, movie.
People struggling in a codependent relationship can absolutely be complex, interesting and endearing if done right, it’s actually a really intriguing concept to explore. This did not handle it well lol
Haven’t seen the movie but can you explain how is it codependent? Because nowadays y’all will call anything codependent as if people needing each other wasn’t a basic human condition lmao
yeah but an actually well written story would have worked no matter if the relationship was co dependent or not. i lead groups on co D but im also a film head and a good story doesn't require the love being any one way at all. bottom line the story is trash lol
@@lowlowseeseepretty much what you said, I love exploring non traditional relationship dynamics even have my experience to go with it makes the dynamic a lot more interesting than just “this person loves this person”
10:30 This whole thing was my biggest gripe with this remake. In the original film Eric isn't an edge lord broodyface. THE CROW is. "It can't rain all the time." That line is iconic because it revealed his character. Eric had joy and optimism. Even when things seemed awful. It's how the kid recognised him. Not by appearance but by that line. So yeah, I was mentally checked out as soon as it became apparent the filmmakers were completely ignoring that aspect of the character. I was bored and disappointed throughout.
Yea Eric and Shelly are cool chill happy people doing good things in the original before they die, and he continues to be that way even despite his pain.
Even then, both the comic and '94 film's Crow was still capable of having some heart that was shared with Eric, like caring about Sarah. This Crow however has, like, no charming qualities like that.
This is the dark knight returnification of characters, as I sometimes call it. Why TDKR was a huge hit? There was moment or external context (comics code authorithy nonsense finally losing its grip on the medium), and there was internal context (the characters were all out of character, which intentionally or not ends up making the entire point of the book - what if was in ". They were just cut close enough to their normal selves to still register as a variant of them. Then comes the copycats, corporate mandated or just hack "creators" who miss all the nuances, all the things that make TDKR actually memorable, all the points, and you get Hack Snyder's BvS take on batman, which is quite literally all the aesthetics, none of the substance in fact it has negative substance somehow, it is anti-matter batman.
Literally. Every single shot you see of him before he died, hes laughing, smiling, playing. He was happy in life, with Shelly and Sarah. That is what made their death so tragic and traumatic, they died in the most horrible way a day before their wedding. Even after he came back, there is a deleted scene from when he was walking home after he came back from the dead, a woman collapses in front of him and his first instinct is to catch her. He was so scared, confused and traumatized it would have made complete sense for him to jump back but he caught her. He couldnt stand the thought of Sarah thinking he abandoned her so he revealed himself to her even if it would out both of them in danger, he gave Alberich a beer when he saw how distressed the cop was to see him raised from the dead. Eric Draven was a good, innocent and compassionate man who suffered a horrible tragedy. Not some drug addicted, selfish punk
'94 Eric has so many sweet moments, even after returning as the Crow. Like when Albrecht asks if he's going to disappear again (because of how Eric vanished during their previous run in) and Eric replies 'I thought I'd use your front door.' Or even how he jokingly steals Albrecht's cigarette, takes a drag and then proceeds to tell him "these things'll kill you."
Bill Skarsgard needs to fire his agent. To be completely honest, I can actually see him being a great The Crow, hated how the script and the directing really wasted his talent
Cutting out sarah was also such a loss. Eric amd sarah grieving together is heartbreakingly beautiful. Its a different kind of love story to me, and thats why i love the original so much
It's worse than you think, there's another Crow story graphic novel called wild Justice in which the crow Avatar, his name being Michael Corby looks like this. They slapped Eric Draven and Shelly's names on the characters out of stupidity and laziness. This movie wasn't a remake it was a mishmash of crap.
Not only that cutting her out removed like the most wholesome part of Eric’s character he even helps her mother in a non-judgmental way but no that’s just all gone that whole dynamic just poof
Somehow when I saw the trailer, this version of The Crow too me looks like a fusion of Jared Leto's Joker and Jojo Siwa's Karma. Edit: Hey, when'd you all get here? Also with the fur coat, he looks like an edgy version of Macklemore from the Thrift Shop music video.
From the advertising alone, I knew this movie was going to fail for one reason: the focus on action. The Crow, at its core, is a tragedy. The focus should be Eric's trauma and him finding closure through righteous vengeance, not hopping on the John Wick bandwagon.
YES! Thank you thats my thoughts exactly- me and my Best friend saw this movie (both hated it) And we were discussing the few things we liked. He liked one action scene but even that scene sat wrong with me- and this is exactly why
The comic has over the top violence in it which I think the action was trying to embody they were trying to put distance between this project and the original film
What I loved about the first one is how at its core, it’s about Eric: his love, his pain, and the lingering relationships that both encourage him but make him vulnerable. In returning, he’s able to reconnect to and bring closure for Sarah and Officer Albrecht, who are also still mourning Eric and Shelly. And I liked that Eric’s coming back isn’t about bringing either one of them back to life: it’s about bringing their murderers to justice. When he’s done, Eric is able to pass on in peace, reunited with Shelly. I don’t know, this one seems kind of solipsistic. Do Eric and Shelly have anyone outside of each other? Do their deaths matter to anyone else? Will Shelly make something good out of her life or are we just left to assume that maybe she’ll get her act together?
The fact that the goal of this movie is to bring Shelly back to life damns it from the beginning, honestly. They call Eric and Shelly "soulmates" in the dang synopsis, and their ending is one half of their soulmate pair having to go on living with no social circle and no life knowing her partner is dead because of her? Is this supposed to be happy? Or romantic? Because it's neither, and it doesn't feel like they thought they were making a tragedy.
They completely massacred not only the spirit of the original movie, but the love relationship of Shelly and Eric along with who they were as characters. In the original movie, Shelly and Eric are leading the charge against a hostile takeover of their apartment complex by the antagonist evil drug lord. That at least gave their death a significant purpose as they died for their principles. In the remake, they simply have video of someone caught doing something they shouldn't even doing which means they're simply victims of accidents and happenstance rather than bravery and choice. They literally stolen the entire relationships agency. That in and of itself kills this stupid remake from being a good movie.
Yeah, but in the original comic they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was how James O’Barr dealt with the pointless death of his fiancé in an accident with a drunk driver. So if anything, this death wasn’t pointless enough
@jarrodoakley6911 but the new movie even gets that wrong, as its shellys past chatching up with them, not "wrong place wrong time" or "they had to be made a lesson to keep the other tenants in line"
@@jarrodoakley6911 I know this is somewhat of an intolerant take, and I get that people end up in circumstances beyond their control and everything but . . . death at the hands of a drunk driver can and does happen to anyone. Good, bad, or indifferent. This would have been an acceptable parallel if they weren't presented as addicts or ex-addicts or whatever. Addicts being at the wrong place and wrong time can be viewed as one of the side effects of being an addict. Not to say that they deserve to die for this, but you hang around that element long enough, it just becomes a matter of when, not if. Now it seems as though they tried to set up a bunch of circumstances where Shelly didn't choose this life, but I really think they failed here and besides, she clearly is still involved in that scene, regardless of wether or not she's an addict. How the hell am I (and I will fully admit to my privilege here) supposed to care about or relate a druggie's supposed love story which seems to be displayed by sex and angst? She lives in a world where, again, it's a matter of when, not if. We all have a limited amount of emotional bandwidth. This is how I can look at a disaster in another part of the world, say that's sad, donate a few bucks and move on with my life. While when my neighbor's house catches on fire, it hits a lot closer to home, and I'm going to feel more and do more. We are able to relate more to people who are more like us, where we can put ourselves or our loved ones in that situation. The death was a fine amount of pointless. Its the characters that were the issue. The producers of the remake underestimated the audience's ability to feel a connection to these characters.
@byMidnyt holy fuck dude that's not intolerant it's completely psychotic and lacking in empathy. If you get shot in the face in a hunting accident, is that just what you get for being a hunter and putting yourself around guns? "Limited bandwidth for empathy" im pretty sure is almost an exact quote from a serial killer, don't remember which but my point is you sound like an absolute monster dude
Wrong! The produces of this one would never ask you to hold their beer, because that is a crucial supply they need to make it rain all the time by pissing down on us from their towers.
Totally agree on the drug use. I thought the first Crow’s message was almost anti-drug. It seems todays “antihero” focuses too much on the “anti” part and not enough on the “hero” part.
And it's anti-drug to its core. James O'Barr lost his love to a drunk driver which directly caused the creation of The Crow. But sure, make Eric and Shelly a couple of junkies. Smfh
Thinking back, I think one of the strengths of the original is that the entire relationship between Eric and Shelley is only shown in brief flashbacks. Maybe the actors had amazing chemistry, maybe they didn't. They seemed very happy in the clips, which was all we really needed to sell the premise.
I was thinking the same thing! Knowing so little about they’re relationship other then the flashbacks, it lets the audience fill in the gaps. In the movie and the comic, I knew nothing other then they were engaged to be married and Eric’s murder spree to avenge Shelly. Those elements alone does make me believe they were soulmates. This new movie just tried so hard to make me feel these two unlikable misfits to even remotely be in love.
exactly. the flashbacks were so effective because they didn't need to convince us that they were already in love, they just had to tell us that they were, and there was never any reason to doubt it.
Also having the two people that survived, the little girl and the cop reminisce on them kind of help too... Because you realize they were really good people because they took her in, Sarah I think was her name. They had people that missed them, can we say that about the new Shelly and Eric?
I feel like whoever did this reboot had absolutely no idea why people liked the original movie. Everything that made it special (and not even talking about Brandon Lee, but just the goth vibe all throughout, which like Amanda says was very much a peek into the subcultures in the 1990's, which makes total sense because Goth subculture is in essence romantic and the film is about love). Also I hate, as an alt woman myself, that we are always portrayed as drug addicts with issues. At least Eric in the original was a normal dude that just liked rock music. Also the original had such a connection to the visuals and the story being told. Everything was dark and rainy because the city was controlled by bad people who did bad things. Eric deals with his own anger and grief by ultimately helping the people he left behind. He honoured Shelly by giving the people that they loved a chance at a better life and by the end the imagery we are offered is bright and sunny. That film was actually pretty visually brilliant. Also the soundtrack!
Well in his revenge he uh does those good deeds..? He was given another chance because his soul couldn't rest and the crow entity couldn't take his soul to the afterlife until he got his justice.
@@zogwort1522 musicians of the time being into drugs and alcohol doesn't make goth druggies and alcoholics. I don't know any goth that is. Most of them are very normal people who just like the music and the aesthetic
@@zogwort1522 I'm European so no one is hoarding guns or invading synagogues. Also none of the metalheads I know are into that stuff. We are all in our 30's and most are having kids, paying mortgages and working all week. Almost like they are, you know...people. Edit to add: What you wrote is actually so problematic, particularly when people like Sophie Lancaster were targeted exactly due to stereotypes.
The original Eric-Crow story is fundamentally optimistic. It has the happiest ending possible. Everyone that was supposed to live lives, everyone that was supposed to die dies, including Eric, who is reunited with Shelly. The fact that "It can't rain all the time" somehow became "Cry now, cry later" shows that they not only misunderstood, but inverted the themes of the story. They should've just adapted another Crow.
No one can replace Brandon as Eric Draven. He owned that role and had so much screen presence. Also, his Eric wasn't an edgelord, it was just a side effect of being chosen by the crow.
Also how coz he came back to life by the crow all angry at the injustice he and Shelly had. I mean I would come back like an upset angry spirit if I was killed off horribly the night before my wedding too.
@@CapucineNighly And Brandon's Eric didn't remember what had happened at first, until the crow led him back to the apartment and he tried to pick up their cat. Then the rage came when he found photos of himself and Shelly and remembered the sweet, loving moments with her. That was when he understood why the crow chose him, and embraced it.
no one can touch the son of bruce lee in a role like this. people dont know that bruce was a kid actor and also brandons grandfather was a famous film actor as well. its a lineage of talented men. go watch Rapid Fire. Brandon slays lol
Honestly it sounds like one of the many problems with this reboot is that it tries to explain thinks better left unexplained. The 1994 film did a great job of paring the backstory down to the barest essentials, establishing it through how characters behave in the present.
It's worse than you think, there's another Crow story graphic novel called wild Justice in which the crow Avatar, his name being Michael Corby looks like this. They slapped Eric Draven and Shelly's names on the characters out of stupidity and laziness. This movie wasn't a remake it was a mishmash of crap.
The original treated us like we were thinkers, not explaining step by step like this one does. You actually said, is this what is happening? And later you see,you were right or wrong... this one tells viewers they're stupid.. and whats up with all the sunlight?
I can hear the pitch being like: Bro, I'm going to remake The Crow but Eric and Shelly will be like Funboy and Darla because everyone loved those characters, bro!
"You know how Suicide Squad edged us with a Harley Quinn/Joker romance? I want to make a movie about that romance! One that shows people that Joker is just misunderstood!"
@@Jermbot15 Hollywood in nutshell: "Hey, guys do you want more Suicide Squad Joker?" "No, gtfo, he was worst part of that movie and worst Joker. Second movie was better, let's not even talk about this anymore" "Good news! We have similar thing comming!" "It'll be shit" "And instead of Margot Robbie, who's actually good actress we''l give oyou somebody who played in like 2 movies, both bad and was not really well received by anybody in her previous roles" They probably made bet with my mother on who will more openly ignore feedback. I mean she openly doesn't give a shit about anyone's feedback but she at least tries to do sth good. They don't gie a shit about anything
@@caithenry8429 I saw the trailer and immediately went to watch the original in the theatre for the 30th anniversary release. It would have been even better if they had advertised the 30th re-release more. It would have been hilarious if they did a re-release to coincide with this release. (maybe that just would have been cruel?)
@@caithenry8429 You weren't. After seeing the trailer once (and getting over the wretching and gagging) I decided that on the "reimagining's" opening night I would raise one to Brandon Lee and watch The Crow '94 again. Which I did.
@@TKHaines not to mention that there are a handful of Crow spinoffs that align much closer to this plot than the original. Calling this a remake killed this film before it was released to theaters
@@TKHainesyahara zhyd has a great video on every version of the crow that pointed out the same thing. I like their alternative of changing main character names. They thought it was an ok movie, just not a crow movie.
Been asking myself that since i saw the first trailer. Why my dude. Especially when the lead actor of the original died on set and you’re taking on the legacy of that … u would think he would be weary of it ending up as it did and by all means would want to avoid it ending up looking like a cash grab. disappointing all around
What's always so depressing about movies like this is how utterly easy it would be to NOT make it crap. To go through the bullet points. -Have the lovers be addicts, they meet in the hospital after ODing. -They try to get clean together, cue montage of the times they fall off the wagon, but their love for each other gets them through the hard times, because they see each other's value. -Big bad find out they got clean, it turns out one of them use to do very menial work for him, but saw enough evil/magic stuff to get him in trouble. -Big bad orders their death. -Blah blah blah they die. -Blah blah blah crow stuff/revenge. -Big bad offers deal: I bring back your lover, you give up revenge. -Crow goes 'nah bro, CAH CAW'. -More crow stuff/explosions. -Crow goes "Sorry I couldn't save you" Ghost lover goes "No worries bae, heaven is lit, now go save others" -The end...
@@theandrogynousmisogynist Mostly just conceding to the 'Hollywood' of at it. Plus, hey, lets make them put their money where their mouth is with this being a 'reimagining' and force them to actually make new-crow be about helping out the little guy. Last thing I want is "Crow 2, Resurrection" were he comes back from the dead (again) in order to fight aliens and stop some giant blue laser.
I'm HOPING the Nosferatu remake is at least GOOD...but come on. This is WOKE HOLLYWOOD we're talking about these days...They'll find SOME WAY to piss off all the legacy fans.
@@dcpunisher4781I don’t think the failure of this current project had to do with any action in attempt to make it more diverse or inclusive. This project literally went harder in the drugs, so much so the leads are active users. The original was more of the anti drug message since the author had real life guilt over using. This project failed due to bad writing and not understanding what made the original great. So more The Witcher situation.
While I didn't want a shot for shot remake, and I'd kind of hoped that they would of taking inspiration from other Crow stories. The fact that they made them drug users was sort of spit in the face of the first film. OG Crow, they were fighting to help clean up and strengthen their neighbor hood. Their death was the extinguishing of a pure love, and killing the good they were putting into the world. Eric's death and rebirth never had to be explained. It was always evident.
"The cringe is happening inside the house" 🤣🤣🤣 Also: I remember who he reminds me of in Shelly's strange pink coat: Donquixote Doflamingo from One Piece. But with less flair and less hilarous panache.
Also, like, there are so many anthology sequels of The Crow films that this would have fit well into that niche. I don't understand why this was marketed as a remake when calling it a new story arc would've been fine
This is the bit that gets me, jusy call them something different and boom, new crow sequel. The other ones are pretty bad too and we all know it but we sort of give them a bit of a pass because theyre never going to be the crow this could have gotten that same lukewarm reception.
The Crow is literally a entity that can revive others too, so it would of been ok if they just went with another character and not bastardized the original. But then again the people in charge of the remake had no creativity in their body and couldn't even understand the basic lore of the series to begin with.
@@CapucineNighly The people in charge saw how the original captured the zeitgeist of the time and wanted to recreate that for the current time. That's the problem. They were focused on doing something that literally can't be done, because it's only afterword that a movie becomes that cultural touchstone, as it's a part of the process in and of itself. The original movie was focused on telling a story. The things that became the epitome of the era were secondary to that story. That's part of the reason it worked.
That's probably my biggest issue. Eric and Shelly were created as characters for a very specific reason with a very specific story. But Eric wasn't the only Crow. Why did these writers try to change Eric's story when they could've either a) made a completely faithful adaptation of the original comic (which even the beloved 1994 classic didn't do), or b) make Skarsgard's character a new Crow with his own story? I don't get it.
As a kid I used to fantasize about being the kind of person who could play an instrument on my rooftop just for fun until i lived next to someone confident enough to play an instrument on their rooftop, all night, when i worked early
Yeah, I was afraid all the time spent showing the relationship in the trailer would be a bad sign. The first Crow sold us on the strength of their relationship just by showing us Eric Draven's grief, then we filled in what we needed too and did a better job than the screenwriter could have.
Time out the guitar sequences in the original is some of the best shots conveying and expressing both the ballad sadness and the heavy metal rage towards the 3rd act
Given the lengthy list of executive producer credits in the opening, we can probably assume that this was a movie that was made by committee with everyone chiming in for the proper "marketable" vision. It's reminiscent of that 2019 Hellboy movie Neil Marshall made where the Executive Producers couldn't agree on the look of a freakin' tree of all things, but even that had an okay performance by David Harbour.
Something that really gives weight to Eric and Shelly's deaths and virtue to their characters in the original movie is Sarah and her relationship with the two. She's what really grounds the story and makes it more than just a tale of revenge. ...And then, instead of truly good people who take care of a kid whose mother is a drug addict, they make them edgelord junkies in the remake. What a way to honour Brendan Lee's legacy. Great job, Lionsgate.
The original is fantastic. My friend and I left the theatre after watching this film and just had to rewatch the 1994 one. So spectacular everytime I watch it.
@@Nicho213007 The original works because it's stylish as hell, has a killer soundtrack, tells a simple story well and in particular has an excellent cast who take some admittedly thinly written roles and act the shit out of them. Lee deservedly gets the most praise, but you've also got Ernie Hudson, Michael Wincott as a terrific villain and a murder's row of ace character actors like David Patrick Kelly, Jon Polito, Tony Todd and whatnot.
@@mst3KGf the villain is lame as hell nothing to him whatsoever and a stupid-looking wig on top of that doesn't help either yes Brandon Lee is okay in the role but at the same, time you can clearly tell he is not a trained dramatic actor, and was hired mainly for his physicality and martial arts prowess on top of that this is not even my favorite Brandon lee or that dickwad Alex Proyas movie that would be for Proyas Dark City and for Brandon lee either Rapid Fire or Showdown in Little Tokyo
Funniest add interruption ever - "She was instantly drawn to him. Her reasoning?" Cut to funky music playing over a Domino's pizza. Sure, I believe that.
Amanda's unapologetic love for Twilight will never not brighten my day a little, and I'm not even into the series. It's just something about the, 'Hell yeah I love this thing, warts and all, what about it?' energy that I strive for
@@zogwort1522 Feel like you might have a little bit of projection going on there, my man. I just don't believe in guilty pleasures. As long as it doesn't harm anyone, enjoy what you enjoy :)
@@zogwort1522 Um, are you ok? You're making a lot of assumptions about strangers on the internet and pushing your own views onto them. I'm sorry if your going through something, but trying to convince others to be as unhappy as you are and believe the world works the way you think it does, isn't healthy. Try finding something positive to put your energy into instead. Even if it's something you've been told is "cringe" or whatever.
Oh and for the record, James O'Barr is a really really nice guy. He and I are from the same town and I did a lot of cons he was at. He just always seemed very genuine and sweet.
That's nice. It sounds like he's doing much better, then. Even after the success of the original Crow, he still seemed rather tormented at cons and such for a long time (not surprisingly, really). I hope the artist has found some peace.
It's very sad that he felt like it was his work that led to Brandon Lee's death. That's rough to put that on himself but that's definitely an expression of depression.
If this was released as 'the crow 6' or however many crow films they've made so far, I would chalk it up as "a funny b-movie with some surprising parts here and there" and overall it would just be another forgotten sequel. What I am genuinely disturbed by though is the fact that Hollywood seems to have completely and utterly lost their grasp of what "being morally good" actually means.... Eric and Shelly were a beacon of light in a hellscape city, they were good people just trying to make it in the world but became victims of the corruption. In this film, they are thieves, murderers (of both people and music), drug addicts and generally selfish pricks... Soooo why are they being pushed as the people we are supposed to be rooting for?? They're no different from Funboy and Darla in the original film....
I wish the manic pixie dream girl would just be laid to rest already. It’s lazy and doesn’t hit like it’s supposed to because it’s been done to death and is tone def in most cases now.
From what Bill has said in interviews and general consensus of what the story originally was supposed to be, this is yet another example of studio hubris & interference ruining what probably would’ve been a much better film. It just feels like the studio thought they could make a better Crow story than any of the comics or previous adaptations, and forced the writers to make these drastic changes that screwed so heavily with the original intent. If you’re going to tell a completely different story, TELL A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY!! This didn’t even need to be a Crow film, it could’ve been something else. Eric and Shelly didn’t need to be named Eric and Shelly, especially if they were going to bastardize the characters so severely. They wanted to make a Crow film, but didn’t want to commit to making it actually fit in the Crow universe. What was with the limbo? Why is Kronos there? Why did Eric need to sell his damn soul in order to get the Crow powers he should’ve been given the first damn time? Why are Devil dealings even involved when it has damn near nothing to do with the main protagonists? Even the antagonist could’ve been better executed! They could’ve really told a story about exploitation in the industry (kind of like The Perfection) and had Shelly and her friends killed bc they were going to publicly expose the company and CEO for the abuse they suffered as children/young adults. But NO, it was just a video showing the CEO make Shelly kill someone by whispering into her ear?? And why he didn’t notice someone recording it to begin with?? This was all just done so lazily and disrespectfully.
To be fair, in the original comic there are several scenes that show Eric in limbo with a character referred to as the Skull Cowboy, who I think Kronos is supposed to be. But yeah, this remake did not need to happen, especially with this seemingly trying to pass off Funboy and Darla as Eric and Shelly, as others have said.
Yeah, should have mentioned this but I feel it would have been A LOT better to give the characters different names. They already changed all the badies, might as well change the protagonist names too
@@AmandaTheJedi honestly from your video I don’t know why they put it as a remake, it sounds like they didn’t keep much of anything from the original bar some name’s?
Wasn't the Horse scene in the comics a representation of his rage for the senseless violence inflicted upon Shelly? It's been a long time since I read it, but I seem to remember a line where it reads "Why God? Why would you do this to something so beautiful?" And it's that lingering rage that prevents him from crossing over. I dunno, maybe I'm misremembering. edit: Just reread the comic, and I was close. Although the horse scene was mostly dialogue free, his lingering rage and what that scene represents is shown on a page near the end of the story. Reads "God, you bastard. How could you do that to her? How could you make something so soft and innocent and beautiful and then destroy it? How could you do that? How could you make her suffer like that? You bastard."
That quote is part of the comic, but the horse was also symbolic of Eric's / O'Barr's anger towards himself. Amanda mentioned it in text overlay in this video but in the special edition of the comic there's an added sequence where the crow ( bird) tells him that he has to kill the horse and forgive himself for not saving Shelly. Eric argues with the crow, but realizes it's right and shoots the horse. "The resolution isn't about justice or revenge. It's about forgiveness." "Are you mad? I could never forgive them!" "Not them, idiot! Yourself! You couldn't save her, Eric." "I should've." "There was nothing to be done, boy. If you want to leave this in - between place, you have to let it go." * The horse reappears * "What do I have to do?" "I'd say that bolt thrower in your pocket would work just fine." "God forgive me."
As an old lady who was around for (and still loves) the original comic AND movie, I feel it’s my duty to point out that Eric’s rooftop guitar scene was NOT cringe! He was in a band when he was alive, and the poor dude needed a break from all the revenge. Of COURSE he’s going to play some guitar!
Let's be real, Rupert Sanders shot 'Snow White and the Huntsman' and 'Ghost in the Shell' movie adaptation, he's way, way better at his job than Uwe Boll, like miles, miles ahead, apparently he knows how to work with actors, how to make a spectacular shot, a sequence of shots, his movies are very pleasant to watch, the problem is they're somewhat hollow when it comes to writing and overall narrative. I'm not surprised, The Crow remake fell flat.
This movie and specifically the ending feels like it was intentionally disrespectful to the original source material. It just spits in the face of the whole meaning of the comic and fundamentally misunderstands it.
It's not like Constantine was that good, never understood why so many people liked it. From what I've heard about this Crow remake it has as much to do with the original as the Constantine movie has to do with the Hellblazer comic, only the vaguest resemblance to the basic concepts.
You know, when she said Underworld meets Xmen, I def thought, no more like Underworld meets Constantine. Glad I'm not the only one that thought of Constantine.
@@GrimmShadowsII The Constantine movie was a "Keanu Reeves Movie" and I found it forgettable. While I like Keanu, most of his movies turn into "Keanu Reeves Movies". I did enjoy the NBC series and the character made a lot more sense when I saw Matt Ryan as Constantine. Don't really care for what they did to him in the Arrowverse, but that's another rant. (Keep in mind I'm not a comic or a graphic novel fan. That applies to both the Crow and Constantine.)
@byMidnyt Keanu really got typecast after Matrix and Constantine fell into that. I read graphic novels but I never got around to reading The Crow and only one or 2 Hellblazer. Matt's show was good but that legends of tomorrow or whatever it was called was horrible so I only watched a couple episodes after they moved him into it.
From what I’ve seen from the reboot clips, it looks like a marvel movie. It has that same glossy, ultra saturated yet flat lighting. The original crow’s lighting is so dramatic and intentional, like a comic book. Which is funny that marvel/the reboot doesn’t seem to be able to recreate that same feeling considering their source material.
The 2000 Crow sequel/spin off that Kirsten Dunst was in, The Crow Salvation, seems to have a similar storyline to this one. Alex’s girlfriend is murdered for seeing some shady dealings. Her boyfriend, Alex, is framed for it. He goes onto become the Crow and avenges her- but I wonder if this remake was inspired by that movie.
I was hoping you'd review this, because I really, really didn't want to watch this, but was morbidly curious. I can see actually doing a remake of the original, because some elements didn't age well and certain things were probably not quite what was originally intended, but this screamed "that's not what we're doing here." My first copy of the original was copied to VHS from someone else's VHS copy of the laserdisc. Yes, I am old.
The Jared Leto-ification of it all...I'm going to drown my sorrows in rewatching the OG film and listening to Burn by the The Cure (after finishing this video of course).
This is like, your weird cousin that always smells like weed and posts pictures of gangster Peter Griffin about how he'll kill anyone that touches his "queen," and they just. Made it a movie, and called it the purest love imaginable.
I saw a TikTok from someone (can't remember the username!) that made a massive point about the fact that in the OG, Eric literally pushed morphine out of Darla's arm and shamed and scared her from doing drugs and to take care of Sarah, but in the remake, they slapped the OG in the face by making Eric and Shelley drug addicts.
Ever since I saw the earlier posters and that one of Eric's tattoos was "Good Boy" with "Good" crossed out I'd been calling him Joker Eric. Glad to see I wasn't too far off. I also told a friend that I found it really interesting that Twigs was cast as Shelly, since to me that implied that she'd have a larger role in the movie, which could potentially have been a touching way to make her more of a present character/flesh out the story. But this was the result. So. Yikes.
The actress is FKA Twigs and that how she sings in real life. Also she was engaged to Robert Patterson so the Twilight mention at the beginning works I guess.
Making another "Crow" movie makes sense because the concept can go in numerous different directions. But given how much the character of Eric Draven and his story are forever linked to Brandon Lee, leave that character/story alone.
It's worse than you think, there's another Crow story graphic novel called wild Justice in which the crow Avatar, his name being Michael Corby looks like this. They slapped Eric Draven and Shelly's names on the characters out of stupidity and laziness. This movie wasn't a remake it was a mishmash of crap.
So let me get this straight. When the guy who has killed a large number of people finds out that the love of his life was forced by magic to kill someone he doesn't get furious about this but instead starts doubting his love? Masterful storytelling, Sir. Chefs kiss. Also, the "laugh now, cry later" tattoo immediately made me think of the cover to the Motley Crue album Theatre of Pain.
One of the biggest losses this remake suffered from was the removal of Sarah's character. In the original, the fact that Eric and Shelley, despite not having much, still took it upon themselves to care for a kid with no one else. Sarah is the throughline of goodness the movie had, for Eric and Shelly and then for the police officer who 'inherited' her, proving there is still light worth fighting for in this dark, bleak world. So much so that, even as he is seeking revenge, Eric still goes out of his way to force Sarah's mother into detox for Sarah's sake. The movie's final fight is Eric trying to save Sarah because, as much as he loves Shelley, she is dead and gone while Sarah is alive and has a future to fight for. Sarah is Eric and Shelley's legacy of love and goodness in the world, and she doesn't exist in the remake.
This was perfect. I vaguely knew about The Crow and I only recently found out they were doing this remake. So this review was perfect for someone who didn't want to see this in theaters, but as soon as it hits a streaming platform I'l remember this review and laugh my ass off even more when I compare notes. Def getting a new subscriber now.
When you said he matched the laugh now cry later tattoo, I thought it was going to say cry now laugh later, but no it was cry now cry later... I just... Really? If anything, it should be angst now angst later. I think it fits him the most.
Bill Skarsgard really could have been great in this role if it had been written/directed better. He is one of the only actors I think could pull it off but he had bare bones to work with.
See the drug use annoys me. Shelley in the original movie was singled out because she was standing up for people against the bad guys. She was taking them on because of the living standards, if I remember right. Their boss owned the places and wasn't happy she was speaking out. So he sent around the crew to do what they did. That's why they show her in shining light to depic her as some form of angelic. They were known as being a good pair caught up because they stood up for what they believed in. A loving couple that just wanted to be together and help others while spreading their happiness thus in the Sarah character, too. Bill Skarsgard is a good actor, and I just watch boy kills world so I know he can do action. But from what I hear about the movie it's just 2 selfish people who knew each other for a few weeks after escaping prison together and not having much else to define them. Will wait for the download but not going out my way. Also this comes from someone who likes the crow, city of angels.
City of Angels works well as a companion to the first rather than a sequel, specifically because of how it handles Sarah's character. Her fate is tragic but the way she related to Eric and Ash differently has some good poetry.
I haven't seen the movie, but just from the trailer I noticed one of the biggest problems: There's a distinct lack of style in the cinematography. The original had a very gothic look and feel to it and this one just looks like.. every other modern movie.
the bit that made me laugh, was the Crowing Up Scene, i was curious to see what they would use for the moment there is no going back, balls to the wall, bring on the carnage, time to get ultra violent...and it was bloody Enya! sure the original had Burn by the Cure which was written for the film, and this one...had Enya
The only good that came from this movie is it finally made me bite the bullet and watch The Crow (no I did not watch 2024). The original is great, I should have watched it sooner but also I was like three when it came out. So I didn't hear about it until later and was worried it wouldn't meet the hype. The Crow (1994) definitely did. This movie... I could tell in advance it was a lot of style with very little understanding. And it's a shame because really we could use more tragedies like The Crow. I'd actually like more individual anthology sequels rather than this... With an understanding of what a Crow is.
There were sequel comics, and a book of stories called Shattered Lives & Broken Dreams. There were sequel movies too, but they all sucked. The TV show was, well... I mean not as bad as this.
This movie really doesn’t need to exist. They could have just spent the money on a good remaster to pull in a younger audience. Plus, Michael Winslow isn’t in it, so instant fail.
26:29 Bill doesn’t really have an accent. He learned English in America so he speaks with an American accent with a slight Swedish-Scandinavian bent on some words.
No...I literally joked that I've known him since his hemlock grove days and either his english accent got worse after being in america or what??? But tbf dka twigs imwas slipppppiiinnggg too???!!!
I'd assume he learnt English in Sweden, seeing how he grew up and went to school here. And he does certainly have a slight Swedish accent, but it doesn't usually come through when acting.
When I saw the trailer for this, it felt on par with the quality of some of The Crow sequels. I'm not sure why they didn't just go that route. Gotta remake every last movie in existence these days apparently.
I feel like Bill saw a Crow movie come across his desk with a brief synopsis and just screamed YES. He such a good actor, he loves camp and the horror genre so this should have been amazing
Actually, it seems like he was just collecting a paycheck. You would have to be an actual idiot to read this screenplay and think it was going to succeed.
If I had £1 for every second adaptation of a well-known piece of literature that starred a Skarsgård in a prominent role, featured opening credits playing over footage of black syrup and an Enya composition, and struggled at the box office, I'd have £2. Not a lot, but given how incredibly specific it is, it's weird that it's happened twice. (The other is David Fincher's _Girl with the Dragon Tattoo_ , by the way.)
Shelley and Eric break outta rehab to bone and get high at a rich friend's apartment for a week straight. Imagine coming back to your apartment and your friends drank all your booze, did all your drugs, and left a mess. Also tattoos are expensive (I have 2 of them, took me weeks to save up) and dude's got a whole paragraph between his shoulder blades. When he wasn't getting drug money, was he getting tattoo money?
Ever since you mentioned making a video I have been so excited. Not only because you were gonna talk about the og film (which I love) but also the fact that you delve into the comics as well!! I started rereading the comics and plan to buy a hardcopy to own. I just love this story and the many different Crows in the comics and this just felt like they missed the entire point of each story. I wanted to go in and have fun even if it was bad. But they removed everything I loved about the Crow franchise so I couldn't even do that. But Bill Skarsgård was carrying this film.
The only thing I can give to the crow remake is how much more recognition it’s given the original crow, I never seen anyone talking about it before this movie
Here’s a few problems that doomed it. 1) At least the horrible Crow sequels didn’t use the Eric character 2) Though the original wasn’t a completely faithful adaptation, you believe the story. You believe the romance. It is closer to the comic but it works as its own thing. 3) What is the purpose of the crow (the actual bird) in this movie? (4) Why is this Eric indiscriminately killing anyone? Why is he killing innocent people unrelated to their deaths? 5) These studios are so desperate for a franchise, like Universal’s purchase of The Exorcist. Only the first films were successful financially. And most of these filmmakers don’t understand why the first was successful.
What bothers me the most is that they completely miss the whole the reason the Crow (the bird) chooses the avatars. The Crow acts when something so horrible, unfair and unjust happens to GOOD people that don't deserve their tragedy, so they can have a chance to right the wrongs done to them. That not only is reflected in Eric and Shelly's characters but also in the very reason the original comic's existence, James O'Barr's loss The Crow is not an action nor edgy story, it's a story of true love and tragedy, loss and rightful vengeance
*EDIT:* LIONSGATE blocked this video in multiple countries unless I trimmed out certain segments - I'll try to get the unaltered version up somewhere, but they didn't want me saying the premise of the movie, what the villain change was, and that Shelly had involvement with the villain - here's the dialogue that was cut and the Time Stamps they were originally at:
*4:38* - But, basic premise of THE CROW is that a young couple are brutally murdered and through the strength of his love and restlessness of his soul, Eric is given the ability to come back to set things right by killing everyone involved
*11:48* - Instead of the baddies just being a regular criminal gang or a group of addicts - the man who’s hunting her and her friends down made a deal to trade innocent souls for his immortality - and that man is Vincent Roeg
*15:55* - That she can’t tell him about her past and whatever does tie into Roeg and why she doesn’t like playing music anymore because he’d leave her
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I can't believe they tried to make another Crow.
Thank you so much for mentioning the new protégé girl! I haven't seen anyone else bring her up. I thought if they just let Eric save her at the end I would at least be happy with the climax but nope! She's just gone from the movie! 🤦♀️
Dude you need to review the borderlands movie I haven’t watched it and I’ve seen people say it’s bad
U will love this news.
FIGHT CLUB IS GETTING A REBOOT, with female leads.
Already doomed to flop
@@Ghostleeee lmao
What really bothers me about this movie is the fact the filmmakers didn't understand the meaning of Eric's makeup. Eric's makeup represents the theatre mask for irony to symbolize that he is a walking contradiction. Yet the filmmakers seemed to think "ooh edgy makeup for our emo hero."
I wanna maybe give benefit of the doubt because instead of the physical masks they swapped them to their tattoos
@@AmandaTheJediI’ve seen the remake of the crow it’s bad
Like literally the original film had a scene where Eric saves Sarah and she asked "Sre you a clown" and Eric replies "Sometimes" It's cause just like Jesters and Maniquinns they have to pretend to be happy when in reality they are deep of guilt and sorrow...that's why it ends with "It can't rain all the time" Which reflects the whole theme of the film That even though the most darkest and saddest times, things can get better.
This movie made literally NO SENSE
The makeup in the remake in particular is much less "spirit of vengeance" than "guy who gets chased out of Hot Topic at closing time."
I think the people who made this movie missed the chapter on symbolism.
The biggest problem is that Eric & Shelly seem like that couple that gets engaged after 2 weeks, then break up & drag all their friends into it, then once they've made everyone pick sides, they get back together.
In an alternate world this is the start of a MMO war
That would be an entertaining movie, if the couple behaves that way, and they think of themselves as basically like the couple from the original The Crow, even though what they're really doing is just annoying everyone around them.
the fact they got incarcerated just to escape and constantly get high really adds to this point, so so true
@@crm7ntbh if I was reborn or immortal I’d get High it wouldn’t do anything but I’d still try
It took me one scene to watch it and I was cringing like crazy. Like the dynamic between Eric and Shelly just ain't at all like the comic or movie. It feels more like some cringe emo couple than the actual emotional connection you could feel in the comic.
Thank you for bringing up Eric and Shelley's drug use in this film because it kinda bothers me, considering the original film and the comic book have a bit of an anti-drug message, since it was irresponsible substance use that caused the drunk driving accident that killed James O'Barr's fiancée. I'd get it if they were going to explore the complexities of drug use and addiction, but they don't do that. Eric and Shelley just...randomly get high for no reason. Honestly, knowing that they meet in rehab only to escape to get high makes them a little less likeable, imho.
As Amanda mentioned, the original film really made the bad guys complete drugheads. The four killers are so drug-addled they're literally swallowing bullets in one scene and Michael Wincott's Top Dollar makes a mock salute towards the first of the foursome killed by doing a snort off of a Scarface-style pile of cocaine. So having Eric and Shelly just be casual drug users in this one is pointless unless there's some story angle and this one doesn't have it.
Right? I don't view addiction as a moral failing, but the way they portray it in our leads here is just a slap in the face to the comic's purpose. If the movie had done everything else right and had them with this character trait, I'd still hate the movie, that's how much it bothers me. I feel like they were addicts because the director thinks all the cool alt folks that might be interested in this are addicts? Just such a horrible choice.
The entire scene in the original when he pulls the drugs out of the girls mother’s arm was so good and such a great message. He helped her become a better mother for her child. It was a very anti drug/crime movie. I hate what they did to it in this remake.
@@BloodSweatandFearsJunkies are people who deserve sympathy and some respect. But I've no interest in a film with grubby drug users at its heart - it immediately turns me off this film.
That "mother is the word for god" moment in the 1994 film enraged me. When you grow up in an abusive household with physical violence and sexual assault as random prize pulls, and your mother is a twenty-one years older than you overgrown child who responds to your "special needs" with more abuse, you have a whole other phrase in mind when you hear "mother". Something like "stupid cunt who did not abort me", for those who do not speak Dwarvish. Everything sounds far grimmer in Dwarvish. My mother heard me say that phrase in Dwarvish and never phoned me again.
One of the problems with this movie is that the two leads' "love" isn't love; it's co-dependence. And co-dependence doesn't exactly tug at my heartstrings, movie.
People struggling in a codependent relationship can absolutely be complex, interesting and endearing if done right, it’s actually a really intriguing concept to explore. This did not handle it well lol
Haven’t seen the movie but can you explain how is it codependent? Because nowadays y’all will call anything codependent as if people needing each other wasn’t a basic human condition lmao
yeah but an actually well written story would have worked no matter if the relationship was co dependent or not. i lead groups on co D but im also a film head and a good story doesn't require the love being any one way at all. bottom line the story is trash lol
@@witchykittyyShelly saying she would die if he left her and Eric saying he would only leave her if he died.
@@lowlowseeseepretty much what you said, I love exploring non traditional relationship dynamics even have my experience to go with it makes the dynamic a lot more interesting than just “this person loves this person”
10:30 This whole thing was my biggest gripe with this remake. In the original film Eric isn't an edge lord broodyface. THE CROW is. "It can't rain all the time." That line is iconic because it revealed his character. Eric had joy and optimism. Even when things seemed awful. It's how the kid recognised him. Not by appearance but by that line.
So yeah, I was mentally checked out as soon as it became apparent the filmmakers were completely ignoring that aspect of the character. I was bored and disappointed throughout.
Yea Eric and Shelly are cool chill happy people doing good things in the original before they die, and he continues to be that way even despite his pain.
Even then, both the comic and '94 film's Crow was still capable of having some heart that was shared with Eric, like caring about Sarah. This Crow however has, like, no charming qualities like that.
This is the dark knight returnification of characters, as I sometimes call it. Why TDKR was a huge hit? There was moment or external context (comics code authorithy nonsense finally losing its grip on the medium), and there was internal context (the characters were all out of character, which intentionally or not ends up making the entire point of the book - what if was in ". They were just cut close enough to their normal selves to still register as a variant of them. Then comes the copycats, corporate mandated or just hack "creators" who miss all the nuances, all the things that make TDKR actually memorable, all the points, and you get Hack Snyder's BvS take on batman, which is quite literally all the aesthetics, none of the substance in fact it has negative substance somehow, it is anti-matter batman.
Literally. Every single shot you see of him before he died, hes laughing, smiling, playing. He was happy in life, with Shelly and Sarah. That is what made their death so tragic and traumatic, they died in the most horrible way a day before their wedding. Even after he came back, there is a deleted scene from when he was walking home after he came back from the dead, a woman collapses in front of him and his first instinct is to catch her. He was so scared, confused and traumatized it would have made complete sense for him to jump back but he caught her. He couldnt stand the thought of Sarah thinking he abandoned her so he revealed himself to her even if it would out both of them in danger, he gave Alberich a beer when he saw how distressed the cop was to see him raised from the dead. Eric Draven was a good, innocent and compassionate man who suffered a horrible tragedy. Not some drug addicted, selfish punk
'94 Eric has so many sweet moments, even after returning as the Crow. Like when Albrecht asks if he's going to disappear again (because of how Eric vanished during their previous run in) and Eric replies 'I thought I'd use your front door.' Or even how he jokingly steals Albrecht's cigarette, takes a drag and then proceeds to tell him "these things'll kill you."
Bill Skarsgard needs to fire his agent. To be completely honest, I can actually see him being a great The Crow, hated how the script and the directing really wasted his talent
I actually saw the film with friends. And his performance was one of the major highlights of the film.
@@miss_xandra_marsthe writing and directing was a joke.
He is an amazing actor. This was an unfortunate choice.
Yes I completely agree. Bill is great casting. The script butchered the potential
Agreed. I want to see him in roles that highlight how truly talented he is.
Cutting out sarah was also such a loss. Eric amd sarah grieving together is heartbreakingly beautiful. Its a different kind of love story to me, and thats why i love the original so much
Agreed!! I wanted so badly for him to have a Sarah. Or even a Sherri from the comics!!
It's worse than you think, there's another Crow story graphic novel called wild Justice in which the crow Avatar, his name being Michael Corby looks like this.
They slapped Eric Draven and Shelly's names on the characters out of stupidity and laziness.
This movie wasn't a remake it was a mishmash of crap.
Not only that cutting her out removed like the most wholesome part of Eric’s character he even helps her mother in a non-judgmental way but no that’s just all gone that whole dynamic just poof
Underworld mixed with X-Men is actually Blade
Thank you, kind stranger! You're right
@@kseni_vely You welcome, just doing my best :)
blade came first so hell nah
Right, have no clue how the blade ever became a marvel thing but i guess only time they together is in deadpool
And all these movies were influenced by the 1994 original The Crow, specially in terms of visual presentation.
Somebody on the trailer's comments said that The Crow looks like a combination of MGK and Florida Joker, now i can't unsee it 😂😂
That's too perfect. And not in a flattering way. 😅
Now I cant unsee it either 🤣
Somehow when I saw the trailer, this version of The Crow too me looks like a fusion of Jared Leto's Joker and Jojo Siwa's Karma.
Edit: Hey, when'd you all get here? Also with the fur coat, he looks like an edgy version of Macklemore from the Thrift Shop music video.
Oh dear. 😂
YEAH WELL MY GOTHIC WIFE WHO IS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL COMIC SAYS THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ERIC LOOKS LIKE IN THE COMIC SO... FU
NIPPLE EYE?! WHYY WHY DID YOU SHOW US THAT?! I can handle bloody deaths but I draw the line at nipple eye
I saw a photo on Twitter of a dude who had a nipple tattoo of a woman with one breast out. I found it because a dude I followed said it was hot.
well I got you one better: bloody nipple eye
(his nipple gets slowly stabbed with a dagger in one scene)
I dare you to look up xing tian, a 17th century drawing kinda looks like that tattoo but better imo
From the advertising alone, I knew this movie was going to fail for one reason: the focus on action. The Crow, at its core, is a tragedy. The focus should be Eric's trauma and him finding closure through righteous vengeance, not hopping on the John Wick bandwagon.
YES! Thank you thats my thoughts exactly- me and my Best friend saw this movie (both hated it)
And we were discussing the few things we liked. He liked one action scene but even that scene sat wrong with me- and this is exactly why
To be fair, this film has less action than the original. It’s basically all in the trailer with its John wick glory.
The comic has over the top violence in it which I think the action was trying to embody they were trying to put distance between this project and the original film
What I loved about the first one is how at its core, it’s about Eric: his love, his pain, and the lingering relationships that both encourage him but make him vulnerable. In returning, he’s able to reconnect to and bring closure for Sarah and Officer Albrecht, who are also still mourning Eric and Shelly. And I liked that Eric’s coming back isn’t about bringing either one of them back to life: it’s about bringing their murderers to justice. When he’s done, Eric is able to pass on in peace, reunited with Shelly.
I don’t know, this one seems kind of solipsistic. Do Eric and Shelly have anyone outside of each other? Do their deaths matter to anyone else? Will Shelly make something good out of her life or are we just left to assume that maybe she’ll get her act together?
The fact that the goal of this movie is to bring Shelly back to life damns it from the beginning, honestly. They call Eric and Shelly "soulmates" in the dang synopsis, and their ending is one half of their soulmate pair having to go on living with no social circle and no life knowing her partner is dead because of her? Is this supposed to be happy? Or romantic? Because it's neither, and it doesn't feel like they thought they were making a tragedy.
Eric shredding his guitar on the roof in the original was epic, you take that back 😂
Thank you
Stupid YTrs don’t understand awesome things.
They completely massacred not only the spirit of the original movie, but the love relationship of Shelly and Eric along with who they were as characters. In the original movie, Shelly and Eric are leading the charge against a hostile takeover of their apartment complex by the antagonist evil drug lord. That at least gave their death a significant purpose as they died for their principles. In the remake, they simply have video of someone caught doing something they shouldn't even doing which means they're simply victims of accidents and happenstance rather than bravery and choice. They literally stolen the entire relationships agency. That in and of itself kills this stupid remake from being a good movie.
Yeah, but in the original comic they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was how James O’Barr dealt with the pointless death of his fiancé in an accident with a drunk driver. So if anything, this death wasn’t pointless enough
@@jarrodoakley6911 I think O'Barr also took inspiration from a story he read about a couple murdered over an engagement ring.
@jarrodoakley6911 but the new movie even gets that wrong, as its shellys past chatching up with them, not "wrong place wrong time" or "they had to be made a lesson to keep the other tenants in line"
@@jarrodoakley6911 I know this is somewhat of an intolerant take, and I get that people end up in circumstances beyond their control and everything but . . . death at the hands of a drunk driver can and does happen to anyone. Good, bad, or indifferent. This would have been an acceptable parallel if they weren't presented as addicts or ex-addicts or whatever. Addicts being at the wrong place and wrong time can be viewed as one of the side effects of being an addict.
Not to say that they deserve to die for this, but you hang around that element long enough, it just becomes a matter of when, not if. Now it seems as though they tried to set up a bunch of circumstances where Shelly didn't choose this life, but I really think they failed here and besides, she clearly is still involved in that scene, regardless of wether or not she's an addict. How the hell am I (and I will fully admit to my privilege here) supposed to care about or relate a druggie's supposed love story which seems to be displayed by sex and angst? She lives in a world where, again, it's a matter of when, not if.
We all have a limited amount of emotional bandwidth. This is how I can look at a disaster in another part of the world, say that's sad, donate a few bucks and move on with my life. While when my neighbor's house catches on fire, it hits a lot closer to home, and I'm going to feel more and do more. We are able to relate more to people who are more like us, where we can put ourselves or our loved ones in that situation.
The death was a fine amount of pointless. Its the characters that were the issue. The producers of the remake underestimated the audience's ability to feel a connection to these characters.
@byMidnyt holy fuck dude that's not intolerant it's completely psychotic and lacking in empathy. If you get shot in the face in a hunting accident, is that just what you get for being a hunter and putting yourself around guns? "Limited bandwidth for empathy" im pretty sure is almost an exact quote from a serial killer, don't remember which but my point is you sound like an absolute monster dude
Brandon Lee: It can't rain all the time
Producers of The Crow remake: Hold my beer
Producers of The Crow remake "Do you like golden showers? Cause we're going to p*ss on you all from a great height and you will love it"
Or hold my umbrella
Wrong! The produces of this one would never ask you to hold their beer, because that is a crucial supply they need to make it rain all the time by pissing down on us from their towers.
Totally agree on the drug use. I thought the first Crow’s message was almost anti-drug. It seems todays “antihero” focuses too much on the “anti” part and not enough on the “hero” part.
And it's anti-drug to its core. James O'Barr lost his love to a drunk driver which directly caused the creation of The Crow.
But sure, make Eric and Shelly a couple of junkies. Smfh
Thinking back, I think one of the strengths of the original is that the entire relationship between Eric and Shelley is only shown in brief flashbacks.
Maybe the actors had amazing chemistry, maybe they didn't. They seemed very happy in the clips, which was all we really needed to sell the premise.
I was thinking the same thing! Knowing so little about they’re relationship other then the flashbacks, it lets the audience fill in the gaps. In the movie and the comic, I knew nothing other then they were engaged to be married and Eric’s murder spree to avenge Shelly. Those elements alone does make me believe they were soulmates.
This new movie just tried so hard to make me feel these two unlikable misfits to even remotely be in love.
I put a rant on Facebook about how much you actually learn about Shelley, and how well developed she was considering how little screen time she had.
exactly. the flashbacks were so effective because they didn't need to convince us that they were already in love, they just had to tell us that they were, and there was never any reason to doubt it.
100% this. We don't know everything about Shelly, but we know everything we need to know.
Also having the two people that survived, the little girl and the cop reminisce on them kind of help too... Because you realize they were really good people because they took her in, Sarah I think was her name. They had people that missed them, can we say that about the new Shelly and Eric?
I feel like whoever did this reboot had absolutely no idea why people liked the original movie. Everything that made it special (and not even talking about Brandon Lee, but just the goth vibe all throughout, which like Amanda says was very much a peek into the subcultures in the 1990's, which makes total sense because Goth subculture is in essence romantic and the film is about love). Also I hate, as an alt woman myself, that we are always portrayed as drug addicts with issues. At least Eric in the original was a normal dude that just liked rock music. Also the original had such a connection to the visuals and the story being told. Everything was dark and rainy because the city was controlled by bad people who did bad things. Eric deals with his own anger and grief by ultimately helping the people he left behind. He honoured Shelly by giving the people that they loved a chance at a better life and by the end the imagery we are offered is bright and sunny. That film was actually pretty visually brilliant. Also the soundtrack!
1980s not 1990s , 90s was techno
Well in his revenge he uh does those good deeds..? He was given another chance because his soul couldn't rest and the crow entity couldn't take his soul to the afterlife until he got his justice.
@@izabelasiczek3547 the film is from 1994. Grunge was all the rage.
@@zogwort1522 musicians of the time being into drugs and alcohol doesn't make goth druggies and alcoholics. I don't know any goth that is. Most of them are very normal people who just like the music and the aesthetic
@@zogwort1522 I'm European so no one is hoarding guns or invading synagogues. Also none of the metalheads I know are into that stuff. We are all in our 30's and most are having kids, paying mortgages and working all week. Almost like they are, you know...people.
Edit to add: What you wrote is actually so problematic, particularly when people like Sophie Lancaster were targeted exactly due to stereotypes.
The original Eric-Crow story is fundamentally optimistic. It has the happiest ending possible. Everyone that was supposed to live lives, everyone that was supposed to die dies, including Eric, who is reunited with Shelly. The fact that "It can't rain all the time" somehow became "Cry now, cry later" shows that they not only misunderstood, but inverted the themes of the story. They should've just adapted another Crow.
No one can replace Brandon as Eric Draven. He owned that role and had so much screen presence. Also, his Eric wasn't an edgelord, it was just a side effect of being chosen by the crow.
Also how coz he came back to life by the crow all angry at the injustice he and Shelly had. I mean I would come back like an upset angry spirit if I was killed off horribly the night before my wedding too.
@@CapucineNighly And Brandon's Eric didn't remember what had happened at first, until the crow led him back to the apartment and he tried to pick up their cat. Then the rage came when he found photos of himself and Shelly and remembered the sweet, loving moments with her. That was when he understood why the crow chose him, and embraced it.
no one can touch the son of bruce lee in a role like this. people dont know that bruce was a kid actor and also brandons grandfather was a famous film actor as well. its a lineage of talented men. go watch Rapid Fire. Brandon slays lol
BRANDON'S ERIC WAS ALSO FUNNY AND WITTY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
Honestly it sounds like one of the many problems with this reboot is that it tries to explain thinks better left unexplained. The 1994 film did a great job of paring the backstory down to the barest essentials, establishing it through how characters behave in the present.
okay but how else was i supposed to know han solo got his lucky blaster because some guy gave it to him?? crucial information
But that's good writing, y'know. Can't have that.
It's worse than you think, there's another Crow story graphic novel called wild Justice in which the crow Avatar, his name being Michael Corby looks like this.
They slapped Eric Draven and Shelly's names on the characters out of stupidity and laziness.
This movie wasn't a remake it was a mishmash of crap.
The original treated us like we were thinkers, not explaining step by step like this one does. You actually said, is this what is happening? And later you see,you were right or wrong... this one tells viewers they're stupid.. and whats up with all the sunlight?
I can hear the pitch being like: Bro, I'm going to remake The Crow but Eric and Shelly will be like Funboy and Darla because everyone loved those characters, bro!
Omg 😂
PHAGUET PROBABLY DIDNT EVEN SEE IT
"You know how Suicide Squad edged us with a Harley Quinn/Joker romance? I want to make a movie about that romance! One that shows people that Joker is just misunderstood!"
Oh god........that's just...bad. never gunna see it.
@@Jermbot15 Hollywood in nutshell:
"Hey, guys do you want more Suicide Squad Joker?"
"No, gtfo, he was worst part of that movie and worst Joker. Second movie was better, let's not even talk about this anymore"
"Good news! We have similar thing comming!"
"It'll be shit"
"And instead of Margot Robbie, who's actually good actress we''l give oyou somebody who played in like 2 movies, both bad and was not really well received by anybody in her previous roles"
They probably made bet with my mother on who will more openly ignore feedback. I mean she openly doesn't give a shit about anyone's feedback but she at least tries to do sth good. They don't gie a shit about anything
At least I'm not disappointed, the trailer and description promised a flop and the flop was delivered.
Glad I'm not the only one who saw the trailer and immediately decided to stay far away
@@caithenry8429 I didn't even know anything about the crow when I saw the trailer and I immediately checked out😂😂
@@caithenry8429 I saw the trailer and immediately went to watch the original in the theatre for the 30th anniversary release. It would have been even better if they had advertised the 30th re-release more. It would have been hilarious if they did a re-release to coincide with this release. (maybe that just would have been cruel?)
@@caithenry8429 You weren't. After seeing the trailer once (and getting over the wretching and gagging) I decided that on the "reimagining's" opening night I would raise one to Brandon Lee and watch The Crow '94 again. Which I did.
The only good thing about this movie was that they went through extra measures to make sure that no one got hurt or killed.
I don't get why they would redo Eric and Shelly's story.
There are so many opportunities for other stories with the crow concept.
Unlike in 1993, which led to the fatal shooting!
@@TKHaines not to mention that there are a handful of Crow spinoffs that align much closer to this plot than the original. Calling this a remake killed this film before it was released to theaters
@@TKHainesyahara zhyd has a great video on every version of the crow that pointed out the same thing. I like their alternative of changing main character names. They thought it was an ok movie, just not a crow movie.
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2nYeah, that was the meaning of the op. Congrats on explaining the obvious.
I’m shocked that Bill agreed to do this. Him and his team seemed to be good at choosing projects for him. This one ain’t it…….
Been asking myself that since i saw the first trailer. Why my dude. Especially when the lead actor of the original died on set and you’re taking on the legacy of that … u would think he would be weary of it ending up as it did and by all means would want to avoid it ending up looking like a cash grab. disappointing all around
@sarahb6570 Not surprised lol hollywood these days are a shell of its former self & these celebrities are just here for the money.
All actors have a few embarrasing movies in their CV.
He must’ve just been offered a truckload of money, no other scenario makes sense to me
Sometimes actors will sign on for multiple projects with a film studio and they often don't have a choice. @@Wraiven22
What's always so depressing about movies like this is how utterly easy it would be to NOT make it crap.
To go through the bullet points.
-Have the lovers be addicts, they meet in the hospital after ODing.
-They try to get clean together, cue montage of the times they fall off the wagon, but their love for each other gets them through the hard times, because they see each other's value.
-Big bad find out they got clean, it turns out one of them use to do very menial work for him, but saw enough evil/magic stuff to get him in trouble.
-Big bad orders their death.
-Blah blah blah they die.
-Blah blah blah crow stuff/revenge.
-Big bad offers deal: I bring back your lover, you give up revenge.
-Crow goes 'nah bro, CAH CAW'.
-More crow stuff/explosions.
-Crow goes "Sorry I couldn't save you" Ghost lover goes "No worries bae, heaven is lit, now go save others"
-The end...
The crow isn’t supposed to just remain on earth once the deeds done guy lol.
Naw that's a fine idea
@@theandrogynousmisogynist his bullet points are still better than what we got though... I can ignore a bad ending to a good movie
@@theandrogynousmisogynist Mostly just conceding to the 'Hollywood' of at it.
Plus, hey, lets make them put their money where their mouth is with this being a 'reimagining' and force them to actually make new-crow be about helping out the little guy.
Last thing I want is "Crow 2, Resurrection" were he comes back from the dead (again) in order to fight aliens and stop some giant blue laser.
"Oh no" is the best summary of this movie that I've yet seen. Hopefully this turd doesn't harm Skarsgard's career.
I think he's had too many wins for this to hurt him
I'm HOPING the Nosferatu remake is at least GOOD...but come on. This is WOKE HOLLYWOOD we're talking about these days...They'll find SOME WAY to piss off all the legacy fans.
He's got Robert Eggers' "Nosferatu" coming up and he's also returning to his signature role of Pennywise. He'll be fine.
@@dcpunisher4781I don’t think the failure of this current project had to do with any action in attempt to make it more diverse or inclusive. This project literally went harder in the drugs, so much so the leads are active users. The original was more of the anti drug message since the author had real life guilt over using. This project failed due to bad writing and not understanding what made the original great. So more The Witcher situation.
@dcpunisher4781 Genuinely curious, what does woke have to do with this?
While I didn't want a shot for shot remake, and I'd kind of hoped that they would of taking inspiration from other Crow stories. The fact that they made them drug users was sort of spit in the face of the first film. OG Crow, they were fighting to help clean up and strengthen their neighbor hood. Their death was the extinguishing of a pure love, and killing the good they were putting into the world. Eric's death and rebirth never had to be explained. It was always evident.
"The cringe is happening inside the house" 🤣🤣🤣 Also: I remember who he reminds me of in Shelly's strange pink coat: Donquixote Doflamingo from One Piece. But with less flair and less hilarous panache.
oh damn i totally see it
i was thinking the same thing!!! could not believe they went with something so out of place!!! doffy wore it better
I laughed SO HARD at that and the coat that made him look like Sully from Monster's Inc. SO HARD. I wheezed.
That's what happened to Doflamingo's coat when he went to prison. It wound up in the trash & Shelly found it
@@aliasfakename3159 It's the OP spin-off nobody's been waiting for. Oda, you genius. 🤣
Also, like, there are so many anthology sequels of The Crow films that this would have fit well into that niche. I don't understand why this was marketed as a remake when calling it a new story arc would've been fine
It's also the second failed remake.
This is the bit that gets me, jusy call them something different and boom, new crow sequel. The other ones are pretty bad too and we all know it but we sort of give them a bit of a pass because theyre never going to be the crow this could have gotten that same lukewarm reception.
The Crow is literally a entity that can revive others too, so it would of been ok if they just went with another character and not bastardized the original. But then again the people in charge of the remake had no creativity in their body and couldn't even understand the basic lore of the series to begin with.
@@CapucineNighly The people in charge saw how the original captured the zeitgeist of the time and wanted to recreate that for the current time. That's the problem. They were focused on doing something that literally can't be done, because it's only afterword that a movie becomes that cultural touchstone, as it's a part of the process in and of itself. The original movie was focused on telling a story. The things that became the epitome of the era were secondary to that story. That's part of the reason it worked.
That's probably my biggest issue. Eric and Shelly were created as characters for a very specific reason with a very specific story. But Eric wasn't the only Crow. Why did these writers try to change Eric's story when they could've either a) made a completely faithful adaptation of the original comic (which even the beloved 1994 classic didn't do), or b) make Skarsgard's character a new Crow with his own story? I don't get it.
As a kid I used to fantasize about being the kind of person who could play an instrument on my rooftop just for fun until i lived next to someone confident enough to play an instrument on their rooftop, all night, when i worked early
Yeah, I was afraid all the time spent showing the relationship in the trailer would be a bad sign. The first Crow sold us on the strength of their relationship just by showing us Eric Draven's grief, then we filled in what we needed too and did a better job than the screenwriter could have.
Time out the guitar sequences in the original is some of the best shots conveying and expressing both the ballad sadness and the heavy metal rage towards the 3rd act
Given the lengthy list of executive producer credits in the opening, we can probably assume that this was a movie that was made by committee with everyone chiming in for the proper "marketable" vision. It's reminiscent of that 2019 Hellboy movie Neil Marshall made where the Executive Producers couldn't agree on the look of a freakin' tree of all things, but even that had an okay performance by David Harbour.
Yeah, that movie wasn't by any means good but it isn't as bad as it's reputation.
Something that really gives weight to Eric and Shelly's deaths and virtue to their characters in the original movie is Sarah and her relationship with the two. She's what really grounds the story and makes it more than just a tale of revenge.
...And then, instead of truly good people who take care of a kid whose mother is a drug addict, they make them edgelord junkies in the remake. What a way to honour Brendan Lee's legacy. Great job, Lionsgate.
I just hope that Robert Eggers's Nosferatu will save Bill Skarsgard's career
The uproar over this remake made me go and watch the original and damn, it was really good! Not sure if I want to watch the new one now
the original is okay. It has a lot of problems though
The original is fantastic. My friend and I left the theatre after watching this film and just had to rewatch the 1994 one. So spectacular everytime I watch it.
I wouldn't and stay away from the sequels and TV show.
@@Nicho213007 The original works because it's stylish as hell, has a killer soundtrack, tells a simple story well and in particular has an excellent cast who take some admittedly thinly written roles and act the shit out of them. Lee deservedly gets the most praise, but you've also got Ernie Hudson, Michael Wincott as a terrific villain and a murder's row of ace character actors like David Patrick Kelly, Jon Polito, Tony Todd and whatnot.
@@mst3KGf the villain is lame as hell nothing to him whatsoever and a stupid-looking wig on top of that doesn't help either yes Brandon Lee is okay in the role but at the same, time you can clearly tell he is not a trained dramatic actor, and was hired mainly for his physicality and martial arts prowess on top of that this is not even my favorite Brandon lee or that dickwad Alex Proyas movie that would be for Proyas Dark City and for Brandon lee either Rapid Fire or Showdown in Little Tokyo
Funniest add interruption ever - "She was instantly drawn to him. Her reasoning?" Cut to funky music playing over a Domino's pizza. Sure, I believe that.
Amanda's unapologetic love for Twilight will never not brighten my day a little, and I'm not even into the series. It's just something about the, 'Hell yeah I love this thing, warts and all, what about it?' energy that I strive for
@@zogwort1522 Feel like you might have a little bit of projection going on there, my man. I just don't believe in guilty pleasures. As long as it doesn't harm anyone, enjoy what you enjoy :)
@@mygoldenwitchI thought the same thing when I read their comment 😂and seeing as they felt the need to reply to you 3x I'd say you're spot on.
@@zogwort1522 Um, are you ok? You're making a lot of assumptions about strangers on the internet and pushing your own views onto them. I'm sorry if your going through something, but trying to convince others to be as unhappy as you are and believe the world works the way you think it does, isn't healthy. Try finding something positive to put your energy into instead. Even if it's something you've been told is "cringe" or whatever.
Oh and for the record, James O'Barr is a really really nice guy. He and I are from the same town and I did a lot of cons he was at. He just always seemed very genuine and sweet.
That's nice. It sounds like he's doing much better, then. Even after the success of the original Crow, he still seemed rather tormented at cons and such for a long time (not surprisingly, really). I hope the artist has found some peace.
At the very least, I really hope he's getting some royalties from this travesty of a film.
It's very sad that he felt like it was his work that led to Brandon Lee's death. That's rough to put that on himself but that's definitely an expression of depression.
If this was released as 'the crow 6' or however many crow films they've made so far, I would chalk it up as "a funny b-movie with some surprising parts here and there" and overall it would just be another forgotten sequel.
What I am genuinely disturbed by though is the fact that Hollywood seems to have completely and utterly lost their grasp of what "being morally good" actually means.... Eric and Shelly were a beacon of light in a hellscape city, they were good people just trying to make it in the world but became victims of the corruption.
In this film, they are thieves, murderers (of both people and music), drug addicts and generally selfish pricks... Soooo why are they being pushed as the people we are supposed to be rooting for?? They're no different from Funboy and Darla in the original film....
There was a 5th!?
I wish the manic pixie dream girl would just be laid to rest already. It’s lazy and doesn’t hit like it’s supposed to because it’s been done to death and is tone def in most cases now.
"I'm so charming because I'm a sociopath with no feelings towards others! Isn't that so pixie?"
From what Bill has said in interviews and general consensus of what the story originally was supposed to be, this is yet another example of studio hubris & interference ruining what probably would’ve been a much better film. It just feels like the studio thought they could make a better Crow story than any of the comics or previous adaptations, and forced the writers to make these drastic changes that screwed so heavily with the original intent.
If you’re going to tell a completely different story, TELL A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY!! This didn’t even need to be a Crow film, it could’ve been something else. Eric and Shelly didn’t need to be named Eric and Shelly, especially if they were going to bastardize the characters so severely. They wanted to make a Crow film, but didn’t want to commit to making it actually fit in the Crow universe. What was with the limbo? Why is Kronos there? Why did Eric need to sell his damn soul in order to get the Crow powers he should’ve been given the first damn time? Why are Devil dealings even involved when it has damn near nothing to do with the main protagonists? Even the antagonist could’ve been better executed!
They could’ve really told a story about exploitation in the industry (kind of like The Perfection) and had Shelly and her friends killed bc they were going to publicly expose the company and CEO for the abuse they suffered as children/young adults. But NO, it was just a video showing the CEO make Shelly kill someone by whispering into her ear?? And why he didn’t notice someone recording it to begin with??
This was all just done so lazily and disrespectfully.
This is the year of people stepping in and ruining everything.
To be fair, in the original comic there are several scenes that show Eric in limbo with a character referred to as the Skull Cowboy, who I think Kronos is supposed to be. But yeah, this remake did not need to happen, especially with this seemingly trying to pass off Funboy and Darla as Eric and Shelly, as others have said.
I am sticking with the original The Crow. Brandon Lee is the one and only Eric Draven.
Yeah, should have mentioned this but I feel it would have been A LOT better to give the characters different names. They already changed all the badies, might as well change the protagonist names too
And the tv show was good.
@@AmandaTheJedi honestly from your video I don’t know why they put it as a remake, it sounds like they didn’t keep much of anything from the original bar some name’s?
@AmandaTheJedi agreed!! They could have done Michael Korbys story since this Eric looks like him!
@@woobiefuntimeIt was utter trash.
Wasn't the Horse scene in the comics a representation of his rage for the senseless violence inflicted upon Shelly? It's been a long time since I read it, but I seem to remember a line where it reads "Why God? Why would you do this to something so beautiful?" And it's that lingering rage that prevents him from crossing over. I dunno, maybe I'm misremembering.
edit: Just reread the comic, and I was close. Although the horse scene was mostly dialogue free, his lingering rage and what that scene represents is shown on a page near the end of the story. Reads "God, you bastard. How could you do that to her? How could you make something so soft and innocent and beautiful and then destroy it? How could you do that? How could you make her suffer like that? You bastard."
That quote is part of the comic, but the horse was also symbolic of Eric's / O'Barr's anger towards himself. Amanda mentioned it in text overlay in this video but in the special edition of the comic there's an added sequence where the crow ( bird) tells him that he has to kill the horse and forgive himself for not saving Shelly. Eric argues with the crow, but realizes it's right and shoots the horse.
"The resolution isn't about justice or revenge. It's about forgiveness."
"Are you mad? I could never forgive them!"
"Not them, idiot! Yourself! You couldn't save her, Eric."
"I should've."
"There was nothing to be done, boy. If you want to leave this in - between place, you have to let it go."
* The horse reappears *
"What do I have to do?"
"I'd say that bolt thrower in your pocket would work just fine."
"God forgive me."
When your supernatural movie makes the audience think about soul trading mechanics, you're doing it wrong.
As an old lady who was around for (and still loves) the original comic AND movie, I feel it’s my duty to point out that Eric’s rooftop guitar scene was NOT cringe! He was in a band when he was alive, and the poor dude needed a break from all the revenge. Of COURSE he’s going to play some guitar!
..... If he never leaves his calling card, how does everyone know to call him The Crow?
Woof.
edit to add ENYA?! f*ck no, I'm out
What, you don't think a fade to black at the end with Enya playing "Sail Away" is peak filmmaking?
Hell in the original he left crow calling cards but they never actually called him The Crow they call him by his real name
if nothing else, its atleast a reminder that the original crow exist, and so people can go watch that instead.
They made Darla and Fun Boy the main characters
oh oooof not far off
Look what they did to his sheets.
@@mst3KGf😂
Booooooooerns
And despite Darla's "redemption arc" in the original, I don't really care about her as a character, nor am I sad that Funboy died.
Gotta appreciate Lions Gate's commitment to showcasing filmmakers who are worse at their job than Uwe Boll.
Let's be real, Rupert Sanders shot 'Snow White and the Huntsman' and 'Ghost in the Shell' movie adaptation, he's way, way better at his job than Uwe Boll, like miles, miles ahead, apparently he knows how to work with actors, how to make a spectacular shot, a sequence of shots, his movies are very pleasant to watch, the problem is they're somewhat hollow when it comes to writing and overall narrative. I'm not surprised, The Crow remake fell flat.
This movie and specifically the ending feels like it was intentionally disrespectful to the original source material. It just spits in the face of the whole meaning of the comic and fundamentally misunderstands it.
It feels like they watched constantine rather than the crow and even if they were imitating constantine. They still did bad? Wild
It's not like Constantine was that good, never understood why so many people liked it. From what I've heard about this Crow remake it has as much to do with the original as the Constantine movie has to do with the Hellblazer comic, only the vaguest resemblance to the basic concepts.
You know, when she said Underworld meets Xmen, I def thought, no more like Underworld meets Constantine. Glad I'm not the only one that thought of Constantine.
@@GrimmShadowsII The Constantine movie was a "Keanu Reeves Movie" and I found it forgettable. While I like Keanu, most of his movies turn into "Keanu Reeves Movies". I did enjoy the NBC series and the character made a lot more sense when I saw Matt Ryan as Constantine. Don't really care for what they did to him in the Arrowverse, but that's another rant. (Keep in mind I'm not a comic or a graphic novel fan. That applies to both the Crow and Constantine.)
@byMidnyt Keanu really got typecast after Matrix and Constantine fell into that. I read graphic novels but I never got around to reading The Crow and only one or 2 Hellblazer. Matt's show was good but that legends of tomorrow or whatever it was called was horrible so I only watched a couple episodes after they moved him into it.
You comparing this to Twilight reminded me that FKA Twigs and Robert Pattinson actually dated.
Right? I was like…ooh that would be awkward if Edward was in this
It also reminded me that the director of this film was the same one who directed the Kristen Stewart Snow White film from 2012
@@christianwise637 that would have been VERY awkward, then….
OH MY G0D
From what I’ve seen from the reboot clips, it looks like a marvel movie. It has that same glossy, ultra saturated yet flat lighting. The original crow’s lighting is so dramatic and intentional, like a comic book. Which is funny that marvel/the reboot doesn’t seem to be able to recreate that same feeling considering their source material.
This seems more like a Sony Marvel movie
1. What is that accent Bill is doing in this movie?
2. With her pink jacket on he looks like MGK lol
I'm happy to say that I got to see the original in the theater for the 30th anniversary release. It was magical. 🤗
How daaaare you call the roof guitar playing from the original LAME?! It’s a VIBE!!! 🎸😭🐦⬛
The 2000 Crow sequel/spin off that Kirsten Dunst was in, The Crow Salvation, seems to have a similar storyline to this one. Alex’s girlfriend is murdered for seeing some shady dealings. Her boyfriend, Alex, is framed for it. He goes onto become the Crow and avenges her- but I wonder if this remake was inspired by that movie.
0:50 I thought you were going to say the Joker and Batman, which honestly makes more sense.
I was hoping you'd review this, because I really, really didn't want to watch this, but was morbidly curious.
I can see actually doing a remake of the original, because some elements didn't age well and certain things were probably not quite what was originally intended, but this screamed "that's not what we're doing here."
My first copy of the original was copied to VHS from someone else's VHS copy of the laserdisc. Yes, I am old.
The Jared Leto-ification of it all...I'm going to drown my sorrows in rewatching the OG film and listening to Burn by the The Cure (after finishing this video of course).
This is like, your weird cousin that always smells like weed and posts pictures of gangster Peter Griffin about how he'll kill anyone that touches his "queen," and they just. Made it a movie, and called it the purest love imaginable.
I saw a TikTok from someone (can't remember the username!) that made a massive point about the fact that in the OG, Eric literally pushed morphine out of Darla's arm and shamed and scared her from doing drugs and to take care of Sarah, but in the remake, they slapped the OG in the face by making Eric and Shelley drug addicts.
Thought about seeing this, then decide to see alien Romulus instead. Sounds like I made the right choice
You DID.
Ever since I saw the earlier posters and that one of Eric's tattoos was "Good Boy" with "Good" crossed out I'd been calling him Joker Eric. Glad to see I wasn't too far off.
I also told a friend that I found it really interesting that Twigs was cast as Shelly, since to me that implied that she'd have a larger role in the movie, which could potentially have been a touching way to make her more of a present character/flesh out the story. But this was the result. So. Yikes.
The actress is FKA Twigs and that how she sings in real life. Also she was engaged to Robert Patterson so the Twilight mention at the beginning works I guess.
I don't understand what the thought process was of thinking of remaking The Crow of all things
They already remade it years ago.
Making another "Crow" movie makes sense because the concept can go in numerous different directions. But given how much the character of Eric Draven and his story are forever linked to Brandon Lee, leave that character/story alone.
@@zogwort1522 There was a series that was sort of a remake, plus the 2nd film was basically a rehash of the first.
It's worse than you think, there's another Crow story graphic novel called wild Justice in which the crow Avatar, his name being Michael Corby looks like this.
They slapped Eric Draven and Shelly's names on the characters out of stupidity and laziness.
This movie wasn't a remake it was a mishmash of crap.
I love you (platonically) you are the best and funniest person that makes movie commentary and you genuinely brighten my day
So let me get this straight. When the guy who has killed a large number of people finds out that the love of his life was forced by magic to kill someone he doesn't get furious about this but instead starts doubting his love? Masterful storytelling, Sir. Chefs kiss.
Also, the "laugh now, cry later" tattoo immediately made me think of the cover to the Motley Crue album Theatre of Pain.
The thing that I was the most worried for about this film was the soundtrack, The original one is MY EVERYTHING. My favorite soundtrack ever!
Yeah the movies and music in the 90s were amazing as well as how they were put together
One of the biggest losses this remake suffered from was the removal of Sarah's character. In the original, the fact that Eric and Shelley, despite not having much, still took it upon themselves to care for a kid with no one else. Sarah is the throughline of goodness the movie had, for Eric and Shelly and then for the police officer who 'inherited' her, proving there is still light worth fighting for in this dark, bleak world. So much so that, even as he is seeking revenge, Eric still goes out of his way to force Sarah's mother into detox for Sarah's sake. The movie's final fight is Eric trying to save Sarah because, as much as he loves Shelley, she is dead and gone while Sarah is alive and has a future to fight for. Sarah is Eric and Shelley's legacy of love and goodness in the world, and she doesn't exist in the remake.
This was perfect. I vaguely knew about The Crow and I only recently found out they were doing this remake. So this review was perfect for someone who didn't want to see this in theaters, but as soon as it hits a streaming platform I'l remember this review and laugh my ass off even more when I compare notes. Def getting a new subscriber now.
Eric sitting attop the buildings playing his guitar was one of my favorite parts of the OG The Crow, noooo my heart, Amanda!!! lol
-...he has to track them down alone but that is barely an inconvenience.
-Oh, really?
When you said he matched the laugh now cry later tattoo, I thought it was going to say cry now laugh later, but no it was cry now cry later... I just... Really? If anything, it should be angst now angst later. I think it fits him the most.
Bill Skarsgard really could have been great in this role if it had been written/directed better. He is one of the only actors I think could pull it off but he had bare bones to work with.
21:15 - So he snaps back to reality, and because he's floating we can say "Ooops, there goes gravity!"
See the drug use annoys me. Shelley in the original movie was singled out because she was standing up for people against the bad guys. She was taking them on because of the living standards, if I remember right. Their boss owned the places and wasn't happy she was speaking out. So he sent around the crew to do what they did. That's why they show her in shining light to depic her as some form of angelic. They were known as being a good pair caught up because they stood up for what they believed in. A loving couple that just wanted to be together and help others while spreading their happiness thus in the Sarah character, too.
Bill Skarsgard is a good actor, and I just watch boy kills world so I know he can do action. But from what I hear about the movie it's just 2 selfish people who knew each other for a few weeks after escaping prison together and not having much else to define them. Will wait for the download but not going out my way.
Also this comes from someone who likes the crow, city of angels.
City of Angels works well as a companion to the first rather than a sequel, specifically because of how it handles Sarah's character. Her fate is tragic but the way she related to Eric and Ash differently has some good poetry.
I haven't seen the movie, but just from the trailer I noticed one of the biggest problems: There's a distinct lack of style in the cinematography. The original had a very gothic look and feel to it and this one just looks like.. every other modern movie.
the bit that made me laugh, was the Crowing Up Scene, i was curious to see what they would use for the moment there is no going back, balls to the wall, bring on the carnage, time to get ultra violent...and it was bloody Enya!
sure the original had Burn by the Cure which was written for the film, and this one...had Enya
I'm 😳
The only good that came from this movie is it finally made me bite the bullet and watch The Crow (no I did not watch 2024). The original is great, I should have watched it sooner but also I was like three when it came out. So I didn't hear about it until later and was worried it wouldn't meet the hype. The Crow (1994) definitely did. This movie...
I could tell in advance it was a lot of style with very little understanding. And it's a shame because really we could use more tragedies like The Crow. I'd actually like more individual anthology sequels rather than this... With an understanding of what a Crow is.
There were sequel comics, and a book of stories called Shattered Lives & Broken Dreams. There were sequel movies too, but they all sucked. The TV show was, well... I mean not as bad as this.
@solvseus i like some of the comics and city of angels. I'm giving the movies chances but 2024 and Wicked Prayer i have biases against.
I am gonna watch it now, i never knew what it was about but this video made me interested
“It’s a cynical cash grab, not much cash to grab it seems” that’s rich coming from the guy who directed gods of Egypt
Was that ever going to be a cash grab? Also, Rupert's track record is even worse honestly
Gods of Egypt wasn't really a cash grab, it was just a bad movie
Your child's soul in exchange for success would make an interesting premise for a historical supernatural fiction of Mozart.
You're not wrong. The poster does make this look like a pirate movie.
Oh Gawd - the Pirate movie poster at 2:00 - now I can't unsee (not that I was planning on ever letting this trash pollute my eyeballs anyway)
Hahaha, same! I can't unsee it now.
This movie really doesn’t need to exist. They could have just spent the money on a good remaster to pull in a younger audience. Plus, Michael Winslow isn’t in it, so instant fail.
26:29 Bill doesn’t really have an accent. He learned English in America so he speaks with an American accent with a slight Swedish-Scandinavian bent on some words.
Well damn I don't really know why he sounds like he's whimpering half the movie then
No...I literally joked that I've known him since his hemlock grove days and either his english accent got worse after being in america or what??? But tbf dka twigs imwas slipppppiiinnggg too???!!!
@@AmandaTheJedi whimpering. Please help.
Honestly I forgot he was in Hemlock Grove dammnnn
I'd assume he learnt English in Sweden, seeing how he grew up and went to school here. And he does certainly have a slight Swedish accent, but it doesn't usually come through when acting.
As someone who is a die hard fan of the original film, the restraint I had to keep me from walking out of the theater was immense.
When I saw the trailer for this, it felt on par with the quality of some of The Crow sequels. I'm not sure why they didn't just go that route. Gotta remake every last movie in existence these days apparently.
I feel like Bill saw a Crow movie come across his desk with a brief synopsis and just screamed YES. He such a good actor, he loves camp and the horror genre so this should have been amazing
Actually, it seems like he was just collecting a paycheck. You would have to be an actual idiot to read this screenplay and think it was going to succeed.
If I had £1 for every second adaptation of a well-known piece of literature that starred a Skarsgård in a prominent role, featured opening credits playing over footage of black syrup and an Enya composition, and struggled at the box office, I'd have £2. Not a lot, but given how incredibly specific it is, it's weird that it's happened twice.
(The other is David Fincher's _Girl with the Dragon Tattoo_ , by the way.)
It's the third adaption, Mark Dacoscus played Eric after Brandon in the awful TV show.
Odd but... _noice_
All the love for Bill as an actor, he could not save this one.
Just like how Eric couldn't bother to save anyone in this movie.
RIP, Brandon Lee!
Shelley and Eric break outta rehab to bone and get high at a rich friend's apartment for a week straight. Imagine coming back to your apartment and your friends drank all your booze, did all your drugs, and left a mess. Also tattoos are expensive (I have 2 of them, took me weeks to save up) and dude's got a whole paragraph between his shoulder blades. When he wasn't getting drug money, was he getting tattoo money?
Ever since you mentioned making a video I have been so excited. Not only because you were gonna talk about the og film (which I love) but also the fact that you delve into the comics as well!! I started rereading the comics and plan to buy a hardcopy to own. I just love this story and the many different Crows in the comics and this just felt like they missed the entire point of each story. I wanted to go in and have fun even if it was bad. But they removed everything I loved about the Crow franchise so I couldn't even do that. But Bill Skarsgård was carrying this film.
The only thing I can give to the crow remake is how much more recognition it’s given the original crow, I never seen anyone talking about it before this movie
Here’s a few problems that doomed it. 1) At least the horrible Crow sequels didn’t use the Eric character 2) Though the original wasn’t a completely faithful adaptation, you believe the story. You believe the romance. It is closer to the comic but it works as its own thing. 3) What is the purpose of the crow (the actual bird) in this movie? (4) Why is this Eric indiscriminately killing anyone? Why is he killing innocent people unrelated to their deaths? 5) These studios are so desperate for a franchise, like Universal’s purchase of The Exorcist. Only the first films were successful financially. And most of these filmmakers don’t understand why the first was successful.
What bothers me the most is that they completely miss the whole the reason the Crow (the bird) chooses the avatars.
The Crow acts when something so horrible, unfair and unjust happens to GOOD people that don't deserve their tragedy, so they can have a chance to right the wrongs done to them.
That not only is reflected in Eric and Shelly's characters but also in the very reason the original comic's existence, James O'Barr's loss
The Crow is not an action nor edgy story, it's a story of true love and tragedy, loss and rightful vengeance