The brake test is highly inaccurate given that you count and then stop. Sound takes time to travel through the walkie talkie and be processed by the receiver, then they act on the countdown. It would be more accurate to use a physical barrier or even measure the feet it took to stop from when the brakes were applied. I can tell the other driver does not start braking until about 1 second later after the Tesla has started braking. You can also try with the other driver doing the countdown so it's not one sided.
Wait on the tri motor taycan turbo gt ;) when the taycan and the tesla both had dual motors.. the taycan too this day is the fastest dual motor EV created. So just imagine when porsche has the same motors as a tesla .. the taycan turbo gt already posted a 7:07 around nurumbring
The new bmws can easily beat it with a 10k turbo upgrade. I've never seen a tesla plaid win ever in the street racing scenes. Channel- ValleyRacing plaid vs bmw g80 m3 Channel- 1stockf30 plaid vs bmw m340i Channel- sinistercoytoe5.0 zr1 vs plaid Street racing fr $ ^^^ plaid loses back too back to the new gen m3 and loses to the new m340i .
Yes! No matter how hard you try, there's no getting around the fact that Rory can always anticipate the start better, because his brain knows when he's calling it.
The Wrigley Performance G80 is definitely one of the most consistent 1000+hp S58s I've seen on youtube. It's not constantly going into limp mode or misfiring like some other heavily modded M3s are
@@TwistiieHD The most consistant S58s are all american companies lol, The fastest S58 right now is from Mpowerhouse which is based in NYC, 2nd is RkAutoWerks+stimikey from Dallas texas, Mlife from NY, fastest stock motor S58 is tuned by STIMikey who’s in the US. Those are all dialed in single turbo g80s, the fastest hybrid turbo G80 is from Autocraft who’s based in Long Island.
Do a "U-Drag" race - You race to the end of the runway, turn around, and race back towards the starting line. Great way to test Acceleration, Speed, Braking, and Corner handling all in one race.
11:14 In the brake test it was clear that the right lane had puddles of water and the left lane was dry. Why didn’t you switch lanes between each brake test? That absolutely would have made the difference.
@@DroneStrike1776Basically every car's breaking is not limited by the power of the brakes but by the grip of the tyres (when doing a single hard stop). Bigger brakes make the difference in repeated breaking
Car and driver doesn’t get paid by Tesla, so I really don’t care what they say. The brake test doesn’t even matter to anybody, except the people that get out run by the Teslas. Do you ever go to the track and see how quick your car will stop?😅 put a tow hitch on that BMW like the model S has and let’s see who can pull the most weight in a quarter mile the fastest.
@@darkstar223 they both cost the same price almost, its a M3 not a Ferrari lmao. The only dif is that the petroleum engine car can be doing this performance constantly whereas the electric car lose all its power after passing the 80% battery level.
Would be cool to see a track pack Plaid re-race. Also would be helpful to know what the state of charge is on the Plaid, even though it shouldn't make too much difference if it's above 50%.
@@vasil7410 yes forgot to mention it. The carbon ceramics help it to attain a higher top speed. Because you need stronger brakes to come to stop at a higher top speed.
@@TB-vb3ov This is misinformation. The 163 mph is simply a hard software limit by Tesla since the car does not have the Track Package from Tesla, which uses tires rated for higher speeds as well as carbon ceramic brakes for improved stopping. With the Track Pack installed, the software unlocks the full top speed to 200 mph. On top of that, the Plaid motor is less sensitive to voltage, so it doesn't matter much with lower SoC. The flat power rating comes from using a different magnetic laminate design internal to the motor as well as carbon overwrapping to minimize the rotor-stator gap, which lowers the back EMF of the motor. This allows it to maintain a linear power curve up to about 18,000 rpm.
I'm a bmw guy and this video puts smile on my face! I was never a big sports car guy.... always preferred trucks...( being from Texas that are just all around more useful) but I have had a few .... a gen4 camaro.... c4 corvette.... a mid 2000's dodge charger r/t with the hemi........ but I'll be damned if my favorite I've owned is my current 08 bmw 335i with the n54. It's tuned with a few bolt on's and my God the Germans sure do know how to make an inline-6 💯
@@DeanoM3 neither car is built for the track. Unless you have the TRACK PACK plaid which is (it has special track tires in addition to the brakes).The m3 cs isn’t a track car either but closer (they don’t have track tires either) than the standard m3.
@@Bimmer_Bill thanks for proving my point. Given this isn’t a track pack car, it’s pointless as it won’t be any good as that was not what it was designed for.
They raced this car against a completely stock, untuned 1000cc motorcycle. Yeah... a heavily modified car beating a motorcycle from a stand still isn't surprising.
I disagree u talking about 1000hp Tesla plaid that have way more advantage than any gas car out there .. no traction issue it’s electric just press and go
@@P10634Most likely 20% state of charge. A 20% state of charge does a 9.9 1/4 mile still though. But with these conditions it would do a 10.1-10.2 or something.
So the M3 with special racing fuel and special modifications just goes even with the Plaid. The Plaid without the track package held its own. Amazing Plaid.
Cry harder the Tesla can’t get any faster and the bmw can still be modded much further and will be much faster 😂. Your Tesla can’t even run a circuit race would need a recharge after 1 lap
Very fast for an M3 to do 9.7 quarter mile times on a greasy track , I reckon both cars will do 9.4 quarter times if the track was a proper drag circuit
Why did BMW brake on the wet line? I think that makes the biggest difference. Also in track mode Model S plaid can do about 175mph and I'm not sure if you used that.
@@MikeMPharmaCyclist u can definitely get 1000hp very easily with the s58 engine, but it’s even easier running ethanol because you run less boost on it. Very reliable too even at 1000hp stock engine they are very strong and make power so easily like the 2jz, electric can’t compete with new beamers they’re too fast
@@MikeMPharmaCyclist although this is true ethanol is cheaper than regular gas. It is a special fuel but for 93 being 3-5 a gallon uou can get ethanol for 1.30-2.5
The Plaid has beaten other 1000+ hp petrol cars relatively easily due to the instant and flat torque curve of the EV motors as well as no need to shift along with superior traction control offered by electric motors. So the fact that hat this 1000 hp M3 did this well is hugely impressive.
Keep in mind the weight, and although its very benificial that ev's don't need gears, they do allow for more low end torque and higher top speed, with the downside of having to shift and work into the powerband. But the main pro is that the tesla is able to do that stock, while the M3 needs special fuel and huge mods which will compromise its reliability. M3 was very impressive but still i wouldn't buy a gas car for the speed, but for the engaging driving experience. Ev's are also egaging but while gas is engaging with the car, ev's are engaging with the road.
Go look up M Powerhouse or M Life, they literally have an M3 with just downpipe and tune (less than $5000 worth of mods) running 9 second quarter miles. No need to feel all insecure about the truth 🥲 a stock xDrive is already running 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and quarter mile in 11.0s and some journalists even getting 10.9... if that's stock numbers not really hard to believe that adding a downpipe and tune can take the car to high 9s
When doing your tests with the model s plaid try and do it with the track package from here on out👍 this way you can get some good 1/4 and even 1/2 mile runs in with other cars
The M3 needs “special sauce” and I don’t know, with so many moving tuned parts, if it holds many powerful starts before breaking something. For a Tesla, that is kind of normal, for a modified car like the M3…luck is kind of important.
@ricarmig The Tesla requires 19 minutes just to load up. Plus, there are hundreds of thousands of parts in it, which means the M3 will hold more powerful starts for longer. Plus, it will be faster as well. The Tesla could not even run a 9.7 initially while the M3 could. It is consistent.
They are not. This BMW stands no chance. It has similar power. But LOOK AT THE WEIGHT DIFFERENCE. Put an electric drive train on a lightweight platform. And it's over. Not even a contest.
What was the Plaids SOC that it only managed 9.7s???? Also, if the Plaid has been driving for at least 15 minutes (when cold out), it will already be at near perfect battery temperature. It must have sat for a long time not driving when it said 19 minutes to go.
It definitely doesn't win! ICE have significantly way higher top speeds compared to EVs! Even the Rimac with almost 2000hp has way less top speed than a 1500hp buggati Chiron lol!!
Spend $20.000 on the Model S Plaid track pack and you have a 200 mph car with (finally) really good brakes and a 150,000 mile battery and powertrain warranty. This car traps at 180 mph in the half mile. This BMW would lose in the half and quarter.
remove the limiter on the m3 and it'll go beyond 200 mph what type of logic is that. The comp package goes 187 might as well remove it if you're gonna spend 20k
@@01221984 Out of fuel in 15 minutes, what's your point? At least with am ev to get the best run you have a full battery while with a petrol car you can only do one run and then fuel up.
Glad you do 1/2 mile tests which takes some of the launch reaction time out of the equation. The brake test should be a fixed point and not by voice. 10:29
@@jkliao6486 In my town there is absolutely no one that races their plaid and most of them I’ve seen doesn’t even know what cheetah mode is. Only people that wouldn’t care about range are car enthusiasts and not Norma people
I own a Model S Plaid and if it's right situation I will take a race against all exotics including Hellcats,but they are few who will know what it is and refuse to race me.....That always cracks mevup.
how has this been fixed so that there's only Auto Trader vids in the sidebar? I have 'all' selected and not a single other channel is has a vid in the list!
@@The_one_that_got_awayThe BMW is faster on lower fuel. Obviously not fair. The plaid doing a 10.2!? Absurd. That's like 20% state of charge performance! A 20% state of charge plaid does 9.9 on the street though! Maybe 10%!?!?
It would make 0 difference on the rolling race. The plaid before reaching its top speed never once pulled ahead. The bmw gapped it from beginning to end
@@TheGogetassj considering the m4csl using the same exact breaks on this m3 did a better lap time then the plaid track pack id say the m3 would win in that aswell. It weighs less aswell. They also never specified if this m3 had the carbon ceramic option or not
@@TheGogetassj as someone else already commented. The m3 was on the way more wet side with puddles during the brake test. Car and driver says the m3 and m4 with carbon ceramics breaks far better then a regular plaid.
@@Adam-M1 void the warranty, many insurers don't insure it with mods, do it secretly without declaring and if it is involved in a crash, say good bye to insurance money. Higher chance of breaking down and issues. Bring it to the dealer for annual service, get ECU maps wiped off and restore to the factory specs the frustration list goes on 🫢🫢
Basically a Plaid with the upgrade brakes + higher speed package would win in all these tests, and be cheaper. BMW would probably do better in some race tracks. Oh, and the Tesla will use only 20% of the energy.
An M3 with a hand built Stage 3 tuned engine, racing exhaust, bespoke coolingsystem powered by specialist ethinol race fuel races Tesla production family hatch…… I wonder how much that cost to build?
Why are they launching right before that big white paint patch? That white paint on the asphalt is super slippery, and if a tiny drop of water touches it, it's a skating rink.
I roll raced a plaid last year and they run well. Definitely a stout package but I prefer the sound and feel of any combustion engine. Looking forward to the days of hybrid turbochargers.
@Anotherboost - I had a Porsche Cayenne Turbo E-Hybrid. It was super fast and fun. Never needed to “plug-in” charge, the battery stayed recharged when you ran the engine. It’s simple and convenient, and I don’t understand why hybrids don’t receive the majority of the EV hype, rather than straight battery EV cars ?? It just doesn’t make sense. BTW - I’m a hard-core petrol head. Traded in the Cayenne TEH for a “fire breathing” Cayenne Turbo GT (which holds it’s own against the Tesla Plaid w/ track package).
They’ve had to pump tens of thousands into a car (which takes it well above the price of the Plaid) that is considerably lighter just to be able to keep up with the Plaid lol. Hardly outstanding 😂😂.
@@peedeegt and yet evs can only go fast in a straight line because of how heavy they are. lets see that plaid hit a corner approaching at 150 like the m3.
What break mode was the tesla in? Because there is advantage with the tesla will auto slow the moment the accelerator is released or lighten for that matter
Big ups to the BMW tuners they did a great job in doing it and thanks to BMW for making a great car like this M3,their engines are a masters piece. Great drag race thanks to Rory and the M3 driver.
@@baronvonhoughton Thing is he goes around like he's a big celebrity lol 🤣 the ego is bad , where as the presenter here for Aurotrader is one of us normal people bought up in a normal background and worked hard to get where he is today 👍
@@minigiant8998if you have to ask you're pretty dense. I'll put it to you this way, if BMW could build a 1000 horsepower motor and warranty it, they would. The fiirst thing to go on the BMW will be some part of the driveline.
Why would it be faster in a road course? Is this BMW usable as a daily? And if so, racing fuel every day? No man. This is a tuned car that is on the brink of breaking down vs a family sedan that is stock and will require zero maintenance on drivetrain for the upcoming 300.000 km. Or did you mean on the "track"? Because if so, yes you are right.
The plaid probably weighs twice as much and will lose miserably in a track race. There’s a reason why you don’t see EV’s racing on a track against traditional engined beasts.
@@Maarten_vd Breaking down? The B58/S58 might be the best engine platform there is atm. Sub 9sec are done by many M3/4:s. I drive an EV (Taycan) but would definitely trust the M3 more than the Tesla to not break down.
@@peterhammer4644 and thats not true. If you watch Tesla Plaid Racing Channel you will see the Plaid doing dozens of runs on one evening when other petrol cars need to cool down or even break down. Plaid is far more reliable and resilient.
I like that you made sure they were on the same tires. Also, since the M3 comp xdrive is pretty much the same base price as the model s plaid, does anyone know how much building the engine like this costs? Also a Model S with the track pack would be a great race :)
The Tesla was in dragstrip mode it reaches 162 mph (limiter ) For a half mile it should have been on track mode, it has a top of 174 mph Track package allows for 200 mph on any mode. It will top out in the 1/2 at 180+ mph I did 5 hits on mine from 184.2-184.8 mph (track package) I do 9.4@150 un prepped surfaces on PS 4S so this one was a little slow (charge %?)
@@ronj7658 Well When you plug your car in at home it's always at 100% when you want to use it. Now road trips electric cars are trash because they do take too long to charge and you have to stop too many times. That's why when I get my Plaid I'll just keep it charged at night Then it's at 100% in the morning just like my cell phone I can go drive around have my fun come home plug it back in repeat. We'll have three different gas-powered cars that I could take on longer trips if I needed to.
@@Dale-11 Not yet but I'm going to. But generally you want to go up to about 80% so you don't damage the battery which will still be plenty for driving around having fun which is the only reason I want it not to save the environment or any of that garbage. But my point still stands It will still be at exactly what charge I want it to be at when I wake up and that's pretty cool. I already have three other cars I can also take out on longer trips if need be I really don't think anybody that has six figures in their bank account (456k to be exact) can be considered a brokie but hey everybody's got their own opinions.
@@Matt.e_Black ya a almost 2000hp hyper car is no joke it can beat a cherion super sport m8 and i know it can go 300mph but thats only 50more mph than the rimac but i think they can update that with software to add 50 mph to it XD
In Track Mode the Plaid is limited to 175mph instead of Drag Mode 165mph which he used here. Don't know why, think Drag Mode is for 1/4 Mile races.... So the Plaid would have taken the 1/2 Mile and on the Rolling Race the M3 was accelerating before the Plaid, guess the guy tried to time the gas and actually pushed even farther before the Pedal because normally from a rolling no ice engine can react as fast as a Plaid and also beat the constant Powerband, just can't. But they could have switched lanes, because espacially on the Brake Test, the Lane of the Bmw looked more wet. So all in all seems pretty much a draw by me.
1-What is the price of the heavily modded M3? 2- Does it have a warranty from this aftermarket performance company or does it now not have a warranty? A plaid can be purchased for $90k US and is bone stock.
You should have used Track Mode on the Plaid for the 1/2 mile, and while the performance is barely reduced in the low-curve, the top speed is raised to ~174 mph.
Real world conditions; the average M3 owners have an ECU stage one tune and would get smoked each time by a plaid. I own both and is based on experience
Shows how accessible the power in the Tesla is. No fancy petrol, no worries about something breaking and chesper to buy and run. That M3C looks very good though.
In my experience, there is always a reason a car doesn't come from the factory as powerful as you can mod it. They always break. I had a Ford F 150 5.o Supercharged and the engine broke TWICE in 26,000 miles. I had a Jaguar tuned and it broke. Just not worth it. Rather have the stock Tesla at 1020 HP.
who tuned it? my mustang made 980 whp for 12k miles before building it. when the engine came out it was still healthy. you either had shit tune or didn't perform maintenance like you should have.
20 years ago you needed Bugatti money to experience hypercar performance. Now you can have that experience with £100k. Taking inflation into account, that is ridiculously good value.
Bullshit!!! The tesla is just a one pony trick 0-60! Very few people actually experiences the speeds of buggati which are well over 400kmh which no EV can even reach whatsoever! Let alone the super old ninja Kawasaki h2r which is not road legal for example.
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Remind us what the price for the Mclaren was? Where are you going to be doing those kind of speeds of over 250mph? Most race tracks don't have straights that long and you sure as hell won't be doing it on public roads. So point still stands- for most track days you can experience the same performance for a fraction of the price
M3 absolutely smashed it. From any type of roll that tesla stood no chance. Had nothing to do with track pack or no track pack from beginning to end it was leaps and bounds ahead. Crazy on a wet surface too
How is this a fair race. A individually adapted supped up BMW (with super fuel you cant buy on the street) against an off the shelf Tesla. Come back with a standard BMW M3 Comp and race them again. Good video though.
@@thescallytrader Shows that in reality for those who need it this is nothing more than marketing almost any M5, M3, M4 are already capable of easily defeating the Platinum at any distance having more than 950 hp and sometimes 900 hp in the case of the M340i
both sick .but wondering how much for M3 1000hp tune up packages? the car itself it's t cheap to begin with . I owned a model Y n a supercharged S2000 , S2000 cost more ,n much more to maintain
Not true. The regular tesla model s plaid posted a 7:35 .. the taycan turbo s posted a 7:33 .. porsche beat the plaid when both used street tires . tesla "Track pack" cheated it had to use track tire semi slicks (GoodYear Eagle F1 SuperCar 3Rs) that are only used for track times not for street use to beat the porsche taycan,panamera turbo s, m5cs,m3cs, and some other 4 door sedans that all used STREET TIRES. The tesla plaid has 1,000hp and the other cars i named have 400hp less then the plaid. Yet when they all used street tires those cars beat it. The semi slicks on the track pack plaid alone shaves off 10-15 sec. The track pack then posted a 7:25 Think how embarrassing that is that a car with 1000hp couldn't beat a 400hp less taycan. BMW/Porsche design and handling is on another planet. The track pack plaid doesn't use road legal tires.
@@G82Watts Geez man, those tires on track pack Plaid are road legal outside of Europe so there's absolutely no cheating and considering that Tesla did this result by software, brakes and tires its completely insane. By sticking in an actual performance suspension and increasing the cooling capacity to sacrifice front trunk which they can easily do (also increasing price to 200k because why not, people actually buy those toyish Porsches), it would completely wipe the floor with anything else in the same class on the Ring for the next 5 years AND with 150k mile warranty. Competition was out when the Ludicrous model S came out
@@lukabosnjak3829 those tires are illegal for road use in Germany and many other countries. No production car comes with the tires, ever. Tesla only got away with it because they made a "Track pack" only version. " RacingForALS goodyear eagle f1 supercar 3r review" go watch that and he explicitly says they increase track times and are only used for that because the ride on the streets is extremely terrible. If u gave those some tires to the other sedans that beat the regular model s plaid they would post 10 sec better times aswell. Even the m3 TOURING beat the regular model s plaid around the track. It's all good bro keep crying and defending ur boring one trick poney car that turns no heads and isn't special to see or be inside. Dull and plain jane. Also "YOUCAR" posted a vid of the new taycan with porsche first ever tri motor doing a 7:07 around nurumbring and it hit a higher speed then the tesla track pack. That's 2 seconds slower then the 1800hp rimac nevera..porsche always does more with less. That's why tesla had to add an entire other motor just to be faster in a straight line then the dual motor taycan. Too this day porsche created the fastest dual motor ev ever so just imagine what happens when they even the playing field. Also porsche cost more becuase they don't look like old man blob cars and actually have LUXURY.
@@lukabosnjak3829 Teslas are a poor mans quick car. It speaks volumes about the experience and driving engagement a real sports car brings u that an EV can NEVER. Ive been inside a tesla and is just doesnt feel like ur in something special. Its so dull and plain jane. It has no luxury. My buddy lets me drive his targa gts porsche time to time and oh my god, bro. The engine. The revs the downshifts. All the people checking out the car. Its insane. The noise alone is what makes me want to drive it over and over again. Best way to describe it is. Speeding in a tesla is like having sex with earplugs in. Only ur body feels it.( Except for the terrible wind noise in the cabin from poor sound isolation.) Real sports cars hit and fill ur entire senses. The rumbling of the engine the visceral special occasion it feels like everytime ur in it. Cant be matched. Theres a reason no youtuber that's loaded gets a tesla .. no rappers no athletes .. hell even type in "only fans girls car" girls w $ don't even like tesla. It's just for average Joe's to finally feel like hot shit on the road.
@@lukabosnjak3829 those tires are illegal in Germany and many other countries for road use. No production car comes with those tires becuase they are ass for the road and are specifically for better lap times. "RacingForALS goodyear eagle f1 supercar 3r review" he explains that they are terrible for road use and are only used for better lap times. If u put those tires on the other sedan 4doors that beat the model s plaid when they both had the same tires they too would beat the track pack version. Also porsche created a faster dual motor EV then tesla ever has too this day. They had to add an entire extra motor just to beat the taycan in a straight line and still lose to around the track 😂 its hilarious how much u defend tesla ur a elon sheep 😂 I'd hate to drive a blob tesla turning no heads. If ur tesla was so good why are u always commenting on every channel defending it?
M3 is a family car aswell. And someone actually wants to buy those g80's after few years. Who wants to buy over 5 year old ev's? Not a wise man lol. They will be in a junkyard after 8 years (battery warranty ends)
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Check out our Plaid vs Taycan Turbo vs RS e-Tron GT drag race: ua-cam.com/video/p26Z7nsLYvQ/v-deo.htmlsi=tDs19z2iW9ys9ZdT
The brake test is highly inaccurate given that you count and then stop. Sound takes time to travel through the walkie talkie and be processed by the receiver, then they act on the countdown. It would be more accurate to use a physical barrier or even measure the feet it took to stop from when the brakes were applied. I can tell the other driver does not start braking until about 1 second later after the Tesla has started braking. You can also try with the other driver doing the countdown so it's not one sided.
JFC these guys like to hear themselves talk. Do yourself a favor and just skip to 3:45.
You definitely need the Plaid Track Pack.
wtf does Turbo mean on a Taycan? Does it blow the electrons faster??
Wait on the tri motor taycan turbo gt ;) when the taycan and the tesla both had dual motors.. the taycan too this day is the fastest dual motor EV created. So just imagine when porsche has the same motors as a tesla .. the taycan turbo gt already posted a 7:07 around nurumbring
makes me realize how carw*w has basically perfected the youtube drag race format
Haggery is hands down the best drag race format
Ahahahah
@@userasdf1546 Haggerty is horrible, it's produced to death.
The U-Drags are pretty cool too!
@@userasdf1546😂😂😂 good one a CGi drag race is the best one hahahaha. Kids these days. The participation trophies caused this
damn...that m3 is jacked. AWD has transformed BWWs performance potential.
The new bmws can easily beat it with a 10k turbo upgrade. I've never seen a tesla plaid win ever in the street racing scenes.
Channel- ValleyRacing plaid vs bmw g80 m3
Channel- 1stockf30 plaid vs bmw m340i
Channel- sinistercoytoe5.0 zr1 vs plaid
Street racing fr $ ^^^ plaid loses back too back to the new gen m3 and loses to the new m340i .
Yep when I had my Audi I previously had a bmw but knew when bmw picked up all wheel drive the contest would be over with.
quattro system is still superior in every way :)@@jz28h
I'm building a monster with my 2024 G82 M4 competition xdrive bro. They are no joke!
@@jz28hnot true, DAZA RS3’s still way faster than G80’s
Rory, have someone do the countdown, please!
Electronic equipment for the countdown to do different with car wow
Yes!
No matter how hard you try, there's no getting around the fact that Rory can always anticipate the start better, because his brain knows when he's calling it.
As long as it’s not the bird voice in Carwow drag races, it’s fine to have someone else do the countdown.
The first race, Rory seemed distracted, the second, Rory seemed to anticipate. The third looked almost like they were giving each other the hit.
@@alstoundI read your comment in the carwow countdown birds voice.
The Wrigley Performance G80 is definitely one of the most consistent 1000+hp S58s I've seen on youtube. It's not constantly going into limp mode or misfiring like some other heavily modded M3s are
Yeah, No. I’d argue S58NYC and Mpowerhouse is way more consistent and way faster.
Tbh the s58 is very easy to tune and make it a daily driver. U never really see them misfire or go into limp mode.
what are the other consistent G80s? Any american companies?
@@TwistiieHD The most consistant S58s are all american companies lol, The fastest S58 right now is from Mpowerhouse which is based in NYC, 2nd is RkAutoWerks+stimikey from Dallas texas, Mlife from NY, fastest stock motor S58 is tuned by STIMikey who’s in the US. Those are all dialed in single turbo g80s, the fastest hybrid turbo G80 is from Autocraft who’s based in Long Island.
@@TwistiieHD EU tuning companies need upgraded hybrid turbos to run the same times as stock turbo G80s tuned by american shops, not even close.
Do a "U-Drag" race - You race to the end of the runway, turn around, and race back towards the starting line.
Great way to test Acceleration, Speed, Braking, and Corner handling all in one race.
and crash-safety, when both hit at the u-turn 😂
M3 wins in that case. The Tesla is more of a muscle car than a sports car
@@thereisonlymusic actually tesla is a sedan
11:14 In the brake test it was clear that the right lane had puddles of water and the left lane was dry. Why didn’t you switch lanes between each brake test? That absolutely would have made the difference.
Second test didn't have puddles. You have brake regen on the Tesla. The electric motors are using engine braking to recapture energy.
@@DroneStrike1776Basically every car's breaking is not limited by the power of the brakes but by the grip of the tyres (when doing a single hard stop). Bigger brakes make the difference in repeated breaking
In 2023 stock plaid not the track pack with red calipers have carbon pads to improve braking
Per car and driver the m3 and m4 brake better then the regular tesla model s plaid
Car and driver doesn’t get paid by Tesla, so I really don’t care what they say. The brake test doesn’t even matter to anybody, except the people that get out run by the Teslas. Do you ever go to the track and see how quick your car will stop?😅 put a tow hitch on that BMW like the model S has and let’s see who can pull the most weight in a quarter mile the fastest.
That M3 looks so good. Perfect stance on it.
That grill grew on me. 😂
Aside from the ridiculous beaver teeth 🦫 🦷
Stupid test one Cow cost 500,000 are the other car costs 120,000
@@darkstar223 they both cost the same price almost, its a M3 not a Ferrari lmao. The only dif is that the petroleum engine car can be doing this performance constantly whereas the electric car lose all its power after passing the 80% battery level.
Did you not watch this video? That’s clearly not an M3 that is clearly a custom car built on top of an M3 and read my question again.@@patatr4943
These cars make 165mph look like its normal
It' gets normal for me since I daily drive a Model S Plaid.
In a German highway that is kinda normal…
You can do 165 mph for about 8 minutes and then you are screwed. Pointless.
Well, the BMW does. Tesla starts falling apart. Look at the windshield wipers flapping around lmao.
@@rogerphelps9939well if you’re doing 165mph you’d probably get to your destination in 8 minutes
Would be cool to see a track pack Plaid re-race. Also would be helpful to know what the state of charge is on the Plaid, even though it shouldn't make too much difference if it's above 50%.
Top end it matters quite a bit under 70%. The top end being 163mph is why it lost half mile race and why he lost by a few cars in the roll race.
Track pack only gets carbon ceramic brakes. No increase in hp or torque
@@spamansh1710And also an increase in top speed. The normal Plaid hit its top speed before the end of each race.
@@vasil7410 yes forgot to mention it. The carbon ceramics help it to attain a higher top speed. Because you need stronger brakes to come to stop at a higher top speed.
@@TB-vb3ov This is misinformation. The 163 mph is simply a hard software limit by Tesla since the car does not have the Track Package from Tesla, which uses tires rated for higher speeds as well as carbon ceramic brakes for improved stopping. With the Track Pack installed, the software unlocks the full top speed to 200 mph. On top of that, the Plaid motor is less sensitive to voltage, so it doesn't matter much with lower SoC. The flat power rating comes from using a different magnetic laminate design internal to the motor as well as carbon overwrapping to minimize the rotor-stator gap, which lowers the back EMF of the motor. This allows it to maintain a linear power curve up to about 18,000 rpm.
I'm a bmw guy and this video puts smile on my face!
I was never a big sports car guy.... always preferred trucks...( being from Texas that are just all around more useful) but I have had a few .... a gen4 camaro.... c4 corvette.... a mid 2000's dodge charger r/t with the hemi........ but I'll be damned if my favorite I've owned is my current 08 bmw 335i with the n54. It's tuned with a few bolt on's and my God the Germans sure do know how to make an inline-6 💯
they should do a lap round the track too, would be really interesting
Wouldn’t be close on the same tires. Plaid weighs 900 lbs more.
Why? That isn’t what the Tesla is built for is it?
@@DeanoM3 neither car is built for the track. Unless you have the TRACK PACK plaid which is (it has special track tires in addition to the brakes).The m3 cs isn’t a track car either but closer (they don’t have track tires either) than the standard m3.
@@Bimmer_Bill thanks for proving my point. Given this isn’t a track pack car, it’s pointless as it won’t be any good as that was not what it was designed for.
Exactly, that would be the right thing to do. But we all know the outcome of that.
Awesome vid. But i think its not fair to use a tesla with a non track package when the m3 gets to be modified and uses a different fuel.
Completely agree.
Yap thought the same
They raced this car against a completely stock, untuned 1000cc motorcycle. Yeah... a heavily modified car beating a motorcycle from a stand still isn't surprising.
I disagree u talking about 1000hp Tesla plaid that have way more advantage than any gas car out there .. no traction issue it’s electric just press and go
1000hp against 1000hp, so what`s your problem???
I was about to say once you said the Plaid did a 10.2 1/4 mile I knew something was wrong.
In a thousand races I have never seen a Plaid run that slow. Only answer is there is a serious error with the person racing the car or the timer.
@P10634 😂
@@P10634Most likely 20% state of charge. A 20% state of charge does a 9.9 1/4 mile still though. But with these conditions it would do a 10.1-10.2 or something.
Yes. It can do 9.2
Electroneum brotha. I helped start tht company
You should have changed the lanes in brake test. The other lane was clearly more damp.
Yeah, too obvious... how could they not realize this...
So the M3 with special racing fuel and special modifications just goes even with the Plaid. The Plaid without the track package held its own. Amazing Plaid.
Same HP what is the problem?
Cry harder the Tesla can’t get any faster and the bmw can still be modded much further and will be much faster 😂. Your Tesla can’t even run a circuit race would need a recharge after 1 lap
@@chrisb1047.s this car How much is this BMW??? BMW CS is $120K w/only 543 HP, is this car $200K+??? v $90K Plaid and significantly lower TCO.
and around a track, and especially around corners that plaid will be eaten. M3 ain't for straight lines!
@@patatr4943 plaid has a tacl package.
Very fast for an M3 to do 9.7 quarter mile times on a greasy track , I reckon both cars will do 9.4 quarter times if the track was a proper drag circuit
The guy said he got a 9.3 at 145 mph testing the M3 once
@@NICKCAMP04 Amazing as the Bugatti Chiron with 1600bhp can only do a 9.5 quarter mile time at best
@@Cayres9 well BMW is known for having one of the best AWD systems and one of the most advanced launch controls
@@Cayres9 trust me even with RWD bmws can grip very well, there is also a 1000 hp RWD M3 doing 9.7s at 145 mph also
@@NICKCAMP04 👍
Why did BMW brake on the wet line? I think that makes the biggest difference. Also in track mode Model S plaid can do about 175mph and I'm not sure if you used that.
He's not in track mode
217 mph if it’s unlocked.
@@larryc1616he is pulling quarter mile not running the track mode for better time
@@raheeb1show us a video of a Tesla doing 217mph please
@@JonnyD3ath Just search on youtube "Tesla Plaid 216MPH"
What battery % (SOC) was the Plaid?
That M3 is outrageous what a build
Wouldn't have been close if it didn't have ethanol and other special fuel though...lol
@@MikeMPharmaCyclist u can definitely get 1000hp very easily with the s58 engine, but it’s even easier running ethanol because you run less boost on it. Very reliable too even at 1000hp stock engine they are very strong and make power so easily like the 2jz, electric can’t compete with new beamers they’re too fast
@@MikeMPharmaCyclist although this is true ethanol is cheaper than regular gas. It is a special fuel but for 93 being 3-5 a gallon uou can get ethanol for 1.30-2.5
The plaid was faster than other cars because it has 1000 hp, but now with this BMW that has the same power things are different 😂
The Plaid has beaten other 1000+ hp petrol cars relatively easily due to the instant and flat torque curve of the EV motors as well as no need to shift along with superior traction control offered by electric motors. So the fact that hat this 1000 hp M3 did this well is hugely impressive.
This m3 has more than specified powe
The guy went off to get race fuel…. 😂
Keep in mind the weight, and although its very benificial that ev's don't need gears, they do allow for more low end torque and higher top speed, with the downside of having to shift and work into the powerband.
But the main pro is that the tesla is able to do that stock, while the M3 needs special fuel and huge mods which will compromise its reliability.
M3 was very impressive but still i wouldn't buy a gas car for the speed, but for the engaging driving experience. Ev's are also egaging but while gas is engaging with the car, ev's are engaging with the road.
Cause the BMW is way lighter
The new G80 M3s are no joke.. with just a downpipe and tune a lot of them are running 9 second quarter miles
Not it will not. Not even close kid. 😂
No they’re not lol. This car is at least $30k deep in mods
Go look up M Powerhouse or M Life, they literally have an M3 with just downpipe and tune (less than $5000 worth of mods) running 9 second quarter miles. No need to feel all insecure about the truth 🥲 a stock xDrive is already running 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and quarter mile in 11.0s and some journalists even getting 10.9... if that's stock numbers not really hard to believe that adding a downpipe and tune can take the car to high 9s
@@JayAllDayM3 it’s tuned ones
Stock do 0-100 in 3.5
Tuned do 0-100 2.8
Sad thing is, all those M3's are warranty voided and constantly broken.
When doing your tests with the model s plaid try and do it with the track package from here on out👍 this way you can get some good 1/4 and even 1/2 mile runs in with other cars
Damn, those cars are so evenly matched. Almost equal HP, 0-60, quarter mile.
The M3 needs “special sauce” and I don’t know, with so many moving tuned parts, if it holds many powerful starts before breaking something. For a Tesla, that is kind of normal, for a modified car like the M3…luck is kind of important.
@ricarmig The Tesla requires 19 minutes just to load up. Plus, there are hundreds of thousands of parts in it, which means the M3 will hold more powerful starts for longer. Plus, it will be faster as well. The Tesla could not even run a 9.7 initially while the M3 could. It is consistent.
They are not. This BMW stands no chance. It has similar power. But LOOK AT THE WEIGHT DIFFERENCE. Put an electric drive train on a lightweight platform. And it's over. Not even a contest.
Besides the model s being a full size car 🤷♂️ 😆
m3 needs launch control, reinforced 8hp and other components, a lot of electronics to launch..@@ricarmig
9.3 1/4 mile on hybrid turbos seems a bit low considering the stock turbo record is 9.1, maybe it needs some PI?
What was the Plaids SOC that it only managed 9.7s???? Also, if the Plaid has been driving for at least 15 minutes (when cold out), it will already be at near perfect battery temperature. It must have sat for a long time not driving when it said 19 minutes to go.
Very cool race. But again, real world, plaid wins. Especially when the top speed limiter is removed
who cares
@@seethruhead7119 Most of us watching do, lmao
@@seethruhead7119 most of us care
@@seethruhead7119 The fact that you clicked this video says you do
It definitely doesn't win! ICE have significantly way higher top speeds compared to EVs! Even the Rimac with almost 2000hp has way less top speed than a 1500hp buggati Chiron lol!!
Spend $20.000 on the Model S Plaid track pack and you have a 200 mph car with (finally) really good brakes and a 150,000 mile battery and powertrain warranty. This car traps at 180 mph in the half mile. This BMW would lose in the half and quarter.
remove the limiter on the m3 and it'll go beyond 200 mph what type of logic is that. The comp package goes 187 might as well remove it if you're gonna spend 20k
@@blazesmooth5573Remove the limiter on the plaid and it will do 220mph. What is your point exactly?
but the bmw owner has alredy spent 70-90k on mods @@blazesmooth5573
@@lachlanB323and out of battery in 15 minutes….whats your point??
@@01221984 Out of fuel in 15 minutes, what's your point? At least with am ev to get the best run you have a full battery while with a petrol car you can only do one run and then fuel up.
Need to race vs the track pack plaid.
Or at least turn off the governor before hitting top speeds. With the governor off, the plaid runs 216mph.
Completely agree. Plenty of videos of the plaid hitting 320km/h with absolute ease.
@@peedeegtand who wants to do 320kph? Id sooner have a better handling car !!
Who cares M3 is better. Sounds phenomenal(actually has sound anyways) and it handles better and dosent have an inferior interior to a Toyota corolla
@@D1man1525 yeah we don’t care. Some of us prefer the Tesla.
Was the Tesla steering wheel changed on that car.. all Tesla plaid s model has the half steeling wheel?
No, you can choose classic steering wheel
I wonder if the brakes on the m3 faded from the other runs. Considering the Tesla has regen braking maybe from the other runs?
Glad you do 1/2 mile tests which takes some of the launch reaction time out of the equation. The brake test should be a fixed point and not by voice. 10:29
Plaid without the track pack begins to limit power around 150mph, everything after the quarter mile in the plaid is governor limited
Theres something not right about that M3 braking, it wasn’t dipping its nose at all
@@P10634 I had thought this one had the "unlimited" track pack. Okay.
For real.. by voice for launch and stop. There's obviously an advantage.
cant find any reference on price, how much does the bmw cost compared to the tesla in this video?
a standard m3 comp already costs more then a plaid and then the bmw only has 510hp for 113k euro
@@stef7396 no it doesnt goofball, g80 m3 comp msrp $75k and Tesla Model S Plaid msrp $89k
@@f80jordan Competition xDrive form at £85,165, while the new CS 2023 has also been priced at a rather startling £118,820.
who has a plaid but doesn't get the track pack? it's practically free after all the price cuts.
The people who don’t want to race the car every single day. Maybe you don’t realize but getting the track pack also reduces the range a little
@@NICKCAMP04 Is the range really important when someone is getting a plaid? I'm genuinely curious as of what the tesla buyers would say.
Everyone that got the Plaid before the discounts...
@@jkliao6486 In my town there is absolutely no one that races their plaid and most of them I’ve seen doesn’t even know what cheetah mode is. Only people that wouldn’t care about range are car enthusiasts and not Norma people
I own a Model S Plaid and if it's right situation I will take a race against all exotics including Hellcats,but they are few who will know what it is and refuse to race me.....That always cracks mevup.
Is there a video planned where it's a track pack Model S Plaid vs a M3 with 1000hp?
Loving this content. You guys should definitely do more like this
I hope everybody understands what Tom's done to that M3, the tuning is amazing to beat a Tesla like that🙌
Plaids don’t run 10.2 in the quarter at 165mph, many problems with the info in these races.
Running ethanol or special fuels you can't buy lol
Man say what you want about the Plaid but it moves!
Always love Rory. He’s the man!
how has this been fixed so that there's only Auto Trader vids in the sidebar? I have 'all' selected and not a single other channel is has a vid in the list!
For that rolling start should have used track mode and bumped the speed limit to 174.
First time in this channel.
Brake test should’ve done changing lanes.
¡Excelente! 👌
So what was the battery level of the Plaid during the races?
Much better than the fuel level of bmws
@@The_one_that_got_awayThe BMW is faster on lower fuel. Obviously not fair. The plaid doing a 10.2!? Absurd. That's like 20% state of charge performance! A 20% state of charge plaid does 9.9 on the street though! Maybe 10%!?!?
Need to get Plaid with track pack and redo the test. Unlock top speed and better brakes
It would make 0 difference on the rolling race. The plaid before reaching its top speed never once pulled ahead. The bmw gapped it from beginning to end
@@G82Watts lol that's one of the test. Will it make a difference on the braking test?
@@TheGogetassj considering the m4csl using the same exact breaks on this m3 did a better lap time then the plaid track pack id say the m3 would win in that aswell. It weighs less aswell. They also never specified if this m3 had the carbon ceramic option or not
@@G82Watts Didn't it just lose to the vanilla Plaid? what are you yapping about?
@@TheGogetassj as someone else already commented. The m3 was on the way more wet side with puddles during the brake test. Car and driver says the m3 and m4 with carbon ceramics breaks far better then a regular plaid.
The teslas limiter needs to be taken out of the equation because the BMW wasn't getting past until it hit it on the drag
loved this and the support for the Lions Barber Collective
Fantastic match but how much do you need to spend in order to achieve that in M3
100k 😂 and the car and race fuel that you can't buy 😂
@@borinvlogs35K. 120K total including new 85K car.
@@Adam-M1 void the warranty, many insurers don't insure it with mods, do it secretly without declaring and if it is involved in a crash, say good bye to insurance money. Higher chance of breaking down and issues. Bring it to the dealer for annual service, get ECU maps wiped off and restore to the factory specs the frustration list goes on 🫢🫢
@@borinvlogs E85 obtainable in most stations. 120k total which is less than a Plaid in our country.
Basically a Plaid with the upgrade brakes + higher speed package would win in all these tests, and be cheaper.
BMW would probably do better in some race tracks.
Oh, and the Tesla will use only 20% of the energy.
And most importantly, Tesla is a joy to drive day to day with 150k mile warranty
An M3 with a hand built Stage 3 tuned engine, racing exhaust, bespoke coolingsystem powered by specialist ethinol race fuel races Tesla production family hatch…… I wonder how much that cost to build?
36k. i got this info from car wow
The M3 is not made to be as powerful as possible from factory. That's not it's market, not that bmw can't make it 1000hp
stage 2 reaches 9.7 seconds
@@Just_a_random_birb £36k plus the M3?
No, you just buy the packet for 36k and BMW gives you a free M3 as gift
The M3 didn't come back. The S Plaid hit its speed limit. Track pack raises the speed limit which would change that outcome.
10:44. Look where the M3 is and the puddle of water 10 meters from where his car stopped and the Tesla on a dry lane.. they should redo the test
S58 just keeps getting better and better
You should do that very race with the Tesla track package!!
Why are they launching right before that big white paint patch? That white paint on the asphalt is super slippery, and if a tiny drop of water touches it, it's a skating rink.
I roll raced a plaid last year and they run well. Definitely a stout package but I prefer the sound and feel of any combustion engine.
Looking forward to the days of hybrid turbochargers.
@Anotherboost -
I had a Porsche Cayenne Turbo E-Hybrid. It was super fast and fun. Never needed to “plug-in” charge, the battery stayed recharged when you ran the engine. It’s simple and convenient, and I don’t understand why hybrids don’t receive the majority of the EV hype, rather than straight battery EV cars ?? It just doesn’t make sense. BTW - I’m a hard-core petrol head. Traded in the Cayenne TEH for a “fire breathing” Cayenne Turbo GT (which holds it’s own against the Tesla Plaid w/ track package).
That M3 is defo better sorted than the evolve one from yesterday's race on another channel 😂
Haha true! Although I prefer the color of the Evolve car!
This is theater not a drag race
Normally the plaid eats everything for lunch..Tom Wrigley might have just saved the combustion engine 😂
They’ve had to pump tens of thousands into a car (which takes it well above the price of the Plaid) that is considerably lighter just to be able to keep up with the Plaid lol. Hardly outstanding 😂😂.
@@peedeegt
And its insane you have 4 years warranty 😂
Would be good to see it tested on Super Unleaded, I mean who’s gonna be going out of their way to find the right fuel?
@@peedeegt fastest vehicles in the world do quarter miles in 3.5 seconds and guess what? They're Gasoline powered 😉
@@peedeegt and yet evs can only go fast in a straight line because of how heavy they are. lets see that plaid hit a corner approaching at 150 like the m3.
What break mode was the tesla in? Because there is advantage with the tesla will auto slow the moment the accelerator is released or lighten for that matter
If the guy actually knew how to prep & operate the Plaid at peak performance…no competition (pun intended).
That ‘tuned’ M3 is special though 👍
Big ups to the BMW tuners they did a great job in doing it and thanks to BMW for making a great car like this M3,their engines are a masters piece. Great drag race thanks to Rory and the M3 driver.
The main thing is a price!
More likely you can buy 2 plaid in cost of this tuned BMW
HUH?!? Bro you can get a M3 xdrive for 85k (My spec is $99k) then he probably has $15k in upgrades to get 1000hp. Its fairly close in price.
A lot better than Carwow videos now. I hate the cringe comedy
Yeah Car Wow has gotten as bad as Clarkson and co lol
Amen, the high pitched squealing Matt is super irritating.
@@baronvonhoughton Thing is he goes around like he's a big celebrity lol 🤣 the ego is bad , where as the presenter here for Aurotrader is one of us normal people bought up in a normal background and worked hard to get where he is today 👍
What is the engine configuration in the M3? Is that a twin 8? 4.4?
How do get a 10.2 in the 1/4 then charge up then get a 9.7 this car easily can get a 9.3 to 9.5
on a prepped track .
One of those cars is going to be really expensive to maintain. 😏
which one?
@@minigiant8998not the tesla…
@@minigiant8998 which one do you think? If it wasn’t obvious, the M3
@@minigiant8998if you have to ask you're pretty dense. I'll put it to you this way, if BMW could build a 1000 horsepower motor and warranty it, they would.
The fiirst thing to go on the BMW will be some part of the driveline.
@@TheMadmax0609 they can easily do that. But the price would be a problem and cause of the green agenda emissions would be another one.
Geez that Bimmer is wicked... on a road course it would absolutely wipe the floor with the Plaid. What's the cost of the upgrade?
Why would it be faster in a road course? Is this BMW usable as a daily? And if so, racing fuel every day? No man. This is a tuned car that is on the brink of breaking down vs a family sedan that is stock and will require zero maintenance on drivetrain for the upcoming 300.000 km.
Or did you mean on the "track"? Because if so, yes you are right.
The plaid probably weighs twice as much and will lose miserably in a track race. There’s a reason why you don’t see EV’s racing on a track against traditional engined beasts.
@@Maarten_vd Breaking down? The B58/S58 might be the best engine platform there is atm. Sub 9sec are done by many M3/4:s. I drive an EV (Taycan) but would definitely trust the M3 more than the Tesla to not break down.
"Probably twice as much" man why dont you feel ashamed to show your ignorance@@FlyingAceAV8B?
@@peterhammer4644 and thats not true. If you watch Tesla Plaid Racing Channel you will see the Plaid doing dozens of runs on one evening when other petrol cars need to cool down or even break down. Plaid is far more reliable and resilient.
Tesla had a limited top speed. Also stock versus modified with double the horsepower... Guess which one is much more prone to break during a race....
No problem. The upcoming M5 will do the job.
trackpack tesla does 215 mph
@@NotMyAccount To lose against the Plaid, yes!!! 😊
@@NotMyAccount Really? How? What are the specs of the new M5?
@@Just_a_random_birb No it doesn't
What tires were both cars riding on?
I like that you made sure they were on the same tires. Also, since the M3 comp xdrive is pretty much the same base price as the model s plaid, does anyone know how much building the engine like this costs? Also a Model S with the track pack would be a great race :)
The BMW M3 is a true thoroughbred racer.
The Tesla was in dragstrip mode it reaches 162 mph (limiter )
For a half mile it should have been on track mode, it has a top of 174 mph
Track package allows for 200 mph on any mode.
It will top out in the 1/2 at 180+ mph
I did 5 hits on mine from 184.2-184.8 mph (track package)
I do 9.4@150 un prepped surfaces on PS 4S so this one was a little slow (charge %?)
So the beemer needs race fuel… does that mean the Tesla can have race electrons? 👀 Plus the Tesla has regen braking
And the BMW was running low on fuel as well.
It sounded like he said it was running on corn. In the states you can get that at normal gas stations
@@ElyciusM ethanol?
Tesla needs 19 minutes to heat up batteries before it can do sub 10 quarter miles.
@@richardlabeja yes, fair enough. Just as impractical als always having ethanol in your daily.
How comparable are they in price?
Very good video I always enjoyed your content on Top Gear very polished and professional presentation.,I have 2 M3’s myself an E36 and F80 !
As a Tesla fan, I'm not even going to take offense to the BMW beating the plaid in the first race. That BMW is mighty impressive!
But the BMW needed fuel. The Tesla didn't. Shows the superiority of electricity over ICE!!!🤣
@@bugsygootough talk for a car that takes 45 mins to charge.
@@ronj7658 Well When you plug your car in at home it's always at 100% when you want to use it. Now road trips electric cars are trash because they do take too long to charge and you have to stop too many times.
That's why when I get my Plaid I'll just keep it charged at night Then it's at 100% in the morning just like my cell phone I can go drive around have my fun come home plug it back in repeat.
We'll have three different gas-powered cars that I could take on longer trips if I needed to.
@@Dale-11 Not yet but I'm going to. But generally you want to go up to about 80% so you don't damage the battery which will still be plenty for driving around having fun which is the only reason I want it not to save the environment or any of that garbage. But my point still stands It will still be at exactly what charge I want it to be at when I wake up and that's pretty cool.
I already have three other cars I can also take out on longer trips if need be I really don't think anybody that has six figures in their bank account (456k to be exact) can be considered a brokie but hey everybody's got their own opinions.
@@ronj7658 it only takes 20 minutes charge from 20-80%. No one charges to 100% unless road tripping.
Can you do a drag race between a fully tuned m3 and a Rimac Nevera
That's not even a race m8 that m3 getting dropped XD
@@Matt.e_Black ya a almost 2000hp hyper car is no joke it can beat a cherion super sport m8 and i know it can go 300mph but thats only 50more mph than the rimac but i think they can update that with software to add 50 mph to it XD
I'm not sure lens technology has developed to the point where you'd get the two cars in the same shot after the first couple of seconds.
@@Matt.e_BlackRuns mid 8s stop capping
@@Matt.e_Blackare you high? Why don’t just say high 5s, or even 3s? do you mean that or you’re just being sarcastic?
In Track Mode the Plaid is limited to 175mph instead of Drag Mode 165mph which he used here. Don't know why, think Drag Mode is for 1/4 Mile races.... So the Plaid would have taken the 1/2 Mile and on the Rolling Race the M3 was accelerating before the Plaid, guess the guy tried to time the gas and actually pushed even farther before the Pedal because normally from a rolling no ice engine can react as fast as a Plaid and also beat the constant Powerband, just can't. But they could have switched lanes, because espacially on the Brake Test, the Lane of the Bmw looked more wet. So all in all seems pretty much a draw by me.
1-What is the price of the heavily modded M3?
2- Does it have a warranty from this aftermarket performance company or does it now not have a warranty?
A plaid can be purchased for $90k US and is bone stock.
average tesla fanboy excuses:
Just simple straight forward relevant questions.
Answers:
1- way more than a Plaid
2-No, Yes
You should have used Track Mode on the Plaid for the 1/2 mile, and while the performance is barely reduced in the low-curve, the top speed is raised to ~174 mph.
Real world conditions; the average M3 owners have an ECU stage one tune and would get smoked each time by a plaid. I own both and is based on experience
Good comparison. Fair play to you both ❤
Damn that M3 is public danger considering the Model S without the track package has absolute thrash brakes.
The M3 is a tuned vehicle not OEM! So the manufacturer/bmw will need to upgrade/ tune it for 1000hp lol!!! It's not the same thing
You can easily upgrade the brakes on a non track package Plaid.
This Plaid already has refreshed brakes (red calipers)
How aboit handling dynamics? Like on a skiidpad and a slalom.
Shows how accessible the power in the Tesla is. No fancy petrol, no worries about something breaking and chesper to buy and run. That M3C looks very good though.
In my experience, there is always a reason a car doesn't come from the factory as powerful as you can mod it. They always break. I had a Ford F 150 5.o Supercharged and the engine broke TWICE in 26,000 miles. I had a Jaguar tuned and it broke. Just not worth it. Rather have the stock Tesla at 1020 HP.
who tuned it? my mustang made 980 whp for 12k miles before building it. when the engine came out it was still healthy. you either had shit tune or didn't perform maintenance like you should have.
@@gtellez1990 I did maintenance, oil change every 3000 miles for example.
@@Cruor34 who tuned it?
20 years ago you needed Bugatti money to experience hypercar performance. Now you can have that experience with £100k. Taking inflation into account, that is ridiculously good value.
Bullshit!!! The tesla is just a one pony trick 0-60! Very few people actually experiences the speeds of buggati which are well over 400kmh which no EV can even reach whatsoever! Let alone the super old ninja Kawasaki h2r which is not road legal for example.
@@adrenalinejunkie3828"only 200mph" 😂
@@alanmay7929 Incase you didn't notice there was another car in this race
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Remind us what the price for the Mclaren was? Where are you going to be doing those kind of speeds of over 250mph? Most race tracks don't have straights that long and you sure as hell won't be doing it on public roads. So point still stands- for most track days you can experience the same performance for a fraction of the price
Seriously you should take advantage of all the negative press on EVs and buy a nearly new model 3 performance for £32k. Insane value for money!
No way a tuned m3 wins…literally a Chiron pur sport lost to the plaid on Hagerty
Nope. The chiron beat the plaid by a smidge and lost to the lucid
@@davidkato1150just look up the factory times, only the recently released $4M super sport barely beats the Plaid, all other Chirons lose.
@@P10634 you realize both cars did a 9.3 second quarter mile right?
Plaid was at like 20% soc here 😂
M3 absolutely smashed it. From any type of roll that tesla stood no chance. Had nothing to do with track pack or no track pack from beginning to end it was leaps and bounds ahead. Crazy on a wet surface too
The BMW M3 is a dream. Thank you for the competition.
that m3 is just epic damm///
How is this a fair race. A individually adapted supped up BMW (with super fuel you cant buy on the street) against an off the shelf Tesla. Come back with a standard BMW M3 Comp and race them again. Good video though.
@@thescallytrader Shows that in reality for those who need it this is nothing more than marketing almost any M5, M3, M4 are already capable of easily defeating the Platinum at any distance having more than 950 hp and sometimes 900 hp in the case of the M340i
I just loooove the Plaid. BMW isn’t bad either
Great Dragrace ! Thank you for the entertainment !
both sick .but wondering how much for M3 1000hp tune up packages? the car itself it's t cheap to begin with .
I owned a model Y n a supercharged S2000 , S2000 cost more ,n much more to maintain
The Tesla didn't have the track package, so it could have gone much faster and braked better!
Not true. The regular tesla model s plaid posted a 7:35 .. the taycan turbo s posted a 7:33 .. porsche beat the plaid when both used street tires . tesla "Track pack" cheated it had to use track tire semi slicks (GoodYear Eagle F1 SuperCar 3Rs) that are only used for track times not for street use to beat the porsche taycan,panamera turbo s, m5cs,m3cs, and some other 4 door sedans that all used STREET TIRES. The tesla plaid has 1,000hp and the other cars i named have 400hp less then the plaid. Yet when they all used street tires those cars beat it. The semi slicks on the track pack plaid alone shaves off 10-15 sec. The track pack then posted a 7:25
Think how embarrassing that is that a car with 1000hp couldn't beat a 400hp less taycan. BMW/Porsche design and handling is on another planet. The track pack plaid doesn't use road legal tires.
@@G82Watts Geez man, those tires on track pack Plaid are road legal outside of Europe so there's absolutely no cheating and considering that Tesla did this result by software, brakes and tires its completely insane. By sticking in an actual performance suspension and increasing the cooling capacity to sacrifice front trunk which they can easily do (also increasing price to 200k because why not, people actually buy those toyish Porsches), it would completely wipe the floor with anything else in the same class on the Ring for the next 5 years AND with 150k mile warranty. Competition was out when the Ludicrous model S came out
@@lukabosnjak3829 those tires are illegal for road use in Germany and many other countries. No production car comes with the tires, ever. Tesla only got away with it because they made a "Track pack" only version. " RacingForALS goodyear eagle f1 supercar 3r review" go watch that and he explicitly says they increase track times and are only used for that because the ride on the streets is extremely terrible. If u gave those some tires to the other sedans that beat the regular model s plaid they would post 10 sec better times aswell. Even the m3 TOURING beat the regular model s plaid around the track. It's all good bro keep crying and defending ur boring one trick poney car that turns no heads and isn't special to see or be inside. Dull and plain jane. Also "YOUCAR" posted a vid of the new taycan with porsche first ever tri motor doing a 7:07 around nurumbring and it hit a higher speed then the tesla track pack. That's 2 seconds slower then the 1800hp rimac nevera..porsche always does more with less. That's why tesla had to add an entire other motor just to be faster in a straight line then the dual motor taycan. Too this day porsche created the fastest dual motor ev ever so just imagine what happens when they even the playing field. Also porsche cost more becuase they don't look like old man blob cars and actually have LUXURY.
@@lukabosnjak3829 Teslas are a poor mans quick car. It speaks volumes about the experience and driving engagement a real sports car brings u that an EV can NEVER. Ive been inside a tesla and is just doesnt feel like ur in something special. Its so dull and plain jane. It has no luxury. My buddy lets me drive his targa gts porsche time to time and oh my god, bro. The engine. The revs the downshifts. All the people checking out the car. Its insane. The noise alone is what makes me want to drive it over and over again. Best way to describe it is. Speeding in a tesla is like having sex with earplugs in. Only ur body feels it.( Except for the terrible wind noise in the cabin from poor sound isolation.) Real sports cars hit and fill ur entire senses. The rumbling of the engine the visceral special occasion it feels like everytime ur in it. Cant be matched. Theres a reason no youtuber that's loaded gets a tesla .. no rappers no athletes .. hell even type in "only fans girls car" girls w $ don't even like tesla. It's just for average Joe's to finally feel like hot shit on the road.
@@lukabosnjak3829 those tires are illegal in Germany and many other countries for road use. No production car comes with those tires becuase they are ass for the road and are specifically for better lap times. "RacingForALS goodyear eagle f1 supercar 3r review" he explains that they are terrible for road use and are only used for better lap times. If u put those tires on the other sedan 4doors that beat the model s plaid when they both had the same tires they too would beat the track pack version. Also porsche created a faster dual motor EV then tesla ever has too this day. They had to add an entire extra motor just to beat the taycan in a straight line and still lose to around the track 😂 its hilarious how much u defend tesla ur a elon sheep 😂 I'd hate to drive a blob tesla turning no heads. If ur tesla was so good why are u always commenting on every channel defending it?
These guys live a dream
Literally😩
The Tesla acceleration is insane - a family car wins
m3 counts as a family car too you know?
M3 is a family car aswell. And someone actually wants to buy those g80's after few years. Who wants to buy over 5 year old ev's? Not a wise man lol. They will be in a junkyard after 8 years (battery warranty ends)
The M3 is also a family car
After the 3. 0-60race: one guy was very polite, the other guy: “I’m pretty confident”.
Guys, didn't you have another person who could give an independent starting signal?