I had superbikes for years then finally admitted to myself on the road they are pointless, so I got an MT07 so can really use it and let's be honest, the 0-70mph performance is almost the same on the road as a superbike so you don't really lose much, your riding skill easily offsets any spec advantage! I tried an R7 this year but I don't do track days, 99% of the time I'm below 80mph so the riding position on the MT is just a better all rounder. Yes, would be great to have the better front suspension on the MT and I have fitted sticker tyres on mine. Every year I test ride other bikes, nearly go for it, then have a word with myself and keep the MT!!
see i got the MT because it was more available compared to the R7, but the way I ride, it’s evident that I would prefer a super sport, but damn the the MT-07 keeps up on the motorway, city riding is just more comfortable
I took my mt07 for its first 1000km service. The salesman offered me to take the r7 for a spin. I came back, asked them to stop the service and just do an appraisal as I want to trade in the mt07 for the r7. The r7 is significantly more capable for my type of riding (hit the twisty roads on a Sunday). I am very, very happy with the r7. Not to mention it looks deadly in black. If you can handle the supersport riding position, get the r7.
Have a MT-10 and the wife has a R1. We love our liter bikes. We bought a MT-07 a few weeks back and I have to say it is a blast to ride. You can just throw it around, it’s very nimble. A good two up bike as well. The he kids like to go out with us so the reason for getting the 07. Looked at getting another 10, but so glad we went with the 07. Can’t wait to get through the break in period.
I took my first motorcycle lesson today, never even touched one in the past. For someone as inexperienced as me the MT07 felt otherwordly, I took it on the road already, what an amazing feeling!
I saw a pair of R7s in the wild and they both had aftermarket exhausts. Damn, these things really sound like a big bore Ducati with the 270 crank and loud exhaust. For a second my brain was confused because at a glance it looks exactly like an R1, so the big bassy twin sound was like a glitch in the matrix.
I got an MT 07 as my first bike and that thing is nuts but also very useful, i needed a bike get to work, but also something fun and an mt 07 2019 model with an akaprovic exaust got the best of both worlds, im still a newbie so even if i get a sport bike to have fun i cant really use the bike to the limit, im not even close to do that on the mt 07 so
I hated the new MT07 look but it has grown on me. If they made an SP version (I'm a sucker for nice suspension) I would buy one. At the moment I have a 1290 superduke but the power is just to much for the streets and its getting me in trouble someday.
I bought an MT-07 for my first bike, don't think I could've gotten anything better if I tried. I did consider the R7, but my back would snap clean in half after hitting a bump (the roads in my area are garbage)
@@Rolly28 it's a brilliant bike, really easy to ride. Insurance was just under £1100 for me (25, 6 years no claims on my car license at the time). They can be made A2 compliant if that's the license you have
I'm shocked that Yamaha didn't sort out the MT-07 suspension, brakes, and dash when they last updated it. I can't imagine buying a 2023 MT-07 when the Hornet, GSX-8S, and Trident exist. It now sits with the Z650 at the bottom of the entry-middleweight class.
I learnt to ride on an MT-07 and test rode an R7 a few weeks back. What an engine! The MT-07 was excellent to learn on really easy to get on with and fun but for me the R7 was better I prefer sportier riding positions and the flickability of the R7 had me leaning over more in my short time with it than I’ve ever managed on my ancient Suzuki which I’ve owned for months 😂 would love an R7 but being sensible I cant afford either of these new I just wish they’d released the R7 a while back so there would be some affordable used ones about like there are MT-07’s. Only minus points for me is the tiny fuel tank on both!
I'd really like to see Yamaha put all the R7 upgrades (better fork, brakes, slipper clutch) on the MT07. Eliminating the cost of the additional bodywork would result in a better overall value bike than the current MT07 (IMO) and may be something Yamaha ends up regretting not doing in response to the MT07's new higher performing competition (Hornet, GSX 8S, Duke 790).
They've obviously been trying to milk a cash-cow while putting minimal work into the bike's development. They'll now be forced to do something to make it more appealing with the new midweight naked options showing up.
That's probably what the next mt07 will get. Pretty sure the slipper clutch has been in the mt for a while now. If Honda Slaps out a cbr750r, the R7 will also have problems. Because the Hornet's got everything the Yamaha's got without the 180 rear wheel.
@Daniel won't buy it, unfortunately. Our insurance rates here work on displacement, and the new Honda puts it in a much higher category and makes it 50% more expensive to insure per month. Mt07 is the sweet spot for me.
It's a hard choice. I want the R7 because it looks great. It sounds great, but I know I will barely go on tracks and living in london. But do you go for comfort or how it makes you feel.
The fz07 / mt07 was really special when it was first introduced, but now for $400 more I'd go for the Trident and get better suspension, a slipper clutch, and ride-by-wire / riding modes.
I had the chance to sit on a 2022 honda fireblade 3 weeks ago and I felt like I was sitting or rather lying down on a mini bike. With my height and weight I have to have something with a more comfortable riding position
I am looking for my first bike, and honestly it's going to be between these two, and am strongly considering getting the r7, since the vast majority of my riding will be in the mountains where I live, no city riding or anything.
When the choice is between a markedly better looking all be more uncomfortable bike with better equipment and a less attractive yet more comfortable bike with okay equipment with all things being equal most riders will choose the first bike. In this case there is a significant difference in price. Here is where we seem to rationalize with the bang for buck and pick the first bike anyway. I see it all the time with strangers, friends and I do it too. So why fight it?
Just my opinion. Add USD fork, Brembo radial brake, hydraulic clutch lever and swap seat to closely match MT09 seat styling than MT07 is great banger bike.
The MT07 not having upside down forks like every other bike its going up against really lets it down and makes it seem old. at my age the ergonomics of the R7 are not for me.
well that's why the R7 sucks because it's just a MT-07R with a R7 badge. i ain't saying it needs allot of power but it should atleast have 90+ hp if it wants to claim it's a R7 which it ain't.
The MT-07 is a real fun bike and I like its looks but if you try to push it on B roads it ties itself in knots, IMO the ideal budget middleweight would be the MT-07 engine in a Trident rolling chassis.
In my country, R7 is 2500 Euro more expencive than the MT-07. That's not a small amount of money and therefore, for me MT-07 wins this. Same engine, much more comfy, cheaper.
A kitted out version of the pleb model would probably suit me best. Top box, screen for a bit of wind protection and a horny sounding pipe. Not too much power,too easy to pick up tickets for bad behaviour. Urban growler.
Dont buy them i had a MT07 its fucking boring No Power, Bad suspension, crappy seatingposition… only thing it can do is wheelie. Just get a Z900 or a Literbike :)
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I had superbikes for years then finally admitted to myself on the road they are pointless, so I got an MT07 so can really use it and let's be honest, the 0-70mph performance is almost the same on the road as a superbike so you don't really lose much, your riding skill easily offsets any spec advantage! I tried an R7 this year but I don't do track days, 99% of the time I'm below 80mph so the riding position on the MT is just a better all rounder. Yes, would be great to have the better front suspension on the MT and I have fitted sticker tyres on mine. Every year I test ride other bikes, nearly go for it, then have a word with myself and keep the MT!!
How about a MT 07 SP version with the brakes, forks and shocks off the R7? Now that would solve some of the decision making.
see i got the MT because it was more available compared to the R7, but the way I ride, it’s evident that I would prefer a super sport, but damn the the MT-07 keeps up on the motorway, city riding is just more comfortable
GREAT CHOICE 😁😁😁
by the sound of it you dun even a 700cc. you could have been settled with a 500 or even a 400
I upgraded the suspension on my MT07 front and rear for around $600 ,YSS shocks and cartridge kit . The bike rides amazing
Tried them both - went with the MT. Gave me a wide grin while riding. Still does every time 😊
I took my mt07 for its first 1000km service. The salesman offered me to take the r7 for a spin. I came back, asked them to stop the service and just do an appraisal as I want to trade in the mt07 for the r7. The r7 is significantly more capable for my type of riding (hit the twisty roads on a Sunday). I am very, very happy with the r7. Not to mention it looks deadly in black. If you can handle the supersport riding position, get the r7.
If I had 13k€ I would
yeah i cant handle it iam too tall :D
Have a MT-10 and the wife has a R1. We love our liter bikes. We bought a MT-07 a few weeks back and I have to say it is a blast to ride. You can just throw it around, it’s very nimble. A good two up bike as well. The he kids like to go out with us so the reason for getting the 07. Looked at getting another 10, but so glad we went with the 07. Can’t wait to get through the break in period.
I took my first motorcycle lesson today, never even touched one in the past.
For someone as inexperienced as me the MT07 felt otherwordly, I took it on the road already, what an amazing feeling!
Welcome to the biking world! an MT07 would make a good 1st big bike too.
@@ozzyg82 Thx!
Yeah, this model was already in my top 3 possible choices so it's pretty damn convenient that I get to learn on it!
I'm shopping the Husqvarna svartpilen rn for my first bike.
The Mt07 might take my heart though haha
2023 Hornet 750 just wrecked the game, mt7 is done! And I am a MT lover
Bende mt 7 ile hornet arasinda kaldım@@cykablyat867
I am a long term MT-07 owner and I absolutely love it
I saw a pair of R7s in the wild and they both had aftermarket exhausts. Damn, these things really sound like a big bore Ducati with the 270 crank and loud exhaust. For a second my brain was confused because at a glance it looks exactly like an R1, so the big bassy twin sound was like a glitch in the matrix.
i have a mt07 ,first bike,,,wicked controll abs is spot on ! Total controll!
I got an MT 07 as my first bike and that thing is nuts but also very useful, i needed a bike get to work, but also something fun and an mt 07 2019 model with an akaprovic exaust got the best of both worlds, im still a newbie so even if i get a sport bike to have fun i cant really use the bike to the limit, im not even close to do that on the mt 07 so
The way you described what you would do with the MT just tells me that you actually want a Ténéré.
I went to yamaha today, and saw both bikes. The MT caught my eye quick. This video was great to see and Letting know which to pick 💪🏼
I hated the new MT07 look but it has grown on me. If they made an SP version (I'm a sucker for nice suspension) I would buy one. At the moment I have a 1290 superduke but the power is just to much for the streets and its getting me in trouble someday.
Mt09 sp then, love mine 👍
Personally I’d go for the mt 07 since I absolutely love the street bike style of all the MT models, beautiful bikes
yeah i mean the slow turns in traffic with r7 i bet sucks ass
I bought an MT-07 for my first bike, don't think I could've gotten anything better if I tried. I did consider the R7, but my back would snap clean in half after hitting a bump (the roads in my area are garbage)
I’m thinking of getting the mt07 for my first bike also, I’m 19 tho so do you think insurance will be okay? I have got told that I will need a limiter
@@Rolly28 it's a brilliant bike, really easy to ride. Insurance was just under £1100 for me (25, 6 years no claims on my car license at the time). They can be made A2 compliant if that's the license you have
@@aeronx yea that’s the one I’m going for after I do my theory test now, thanks bro can’t wait 👍
@@Rolly28 Nice one mate, good luck! 👍You'll enjoy it
MT-07 SP would be nice.
I'm shocked that Yamaha didn't sort out the MT-07 suspension, brakes, and dash when they last updated it. I can't imagine buying a 2023 MT-07 when the Hornet, GSX-8S, and Trident exist. It now sits with the Z650 at the bottom of the entry-middleweight class.
All about keeping the price down
@@Mike_P646 The 2023 Hornet is cheaper than the 2023 MT-07.
I learnt to ride on an MT-07 and test rode an R7 a few weeks back. What an engine! The MT-07 was excellent to learn on really easy to get on with and fun but for me the R7 was better I prefer sportier riding positions and the flickability of the R7 had me leaning over more in my short time with it than I’ve ever managed on my ancient Suzuki which I’ve owned for months 😂 would love an R7 but being sensible I cant afford either of these new I just wish they’d released the R7 a while back so there would be some affordable used ones about like there are MT-07’s. Only minus points for me is the tiny fuel tank on both!
Do what I'm gonna have to do and save more
I'd really like to see Yamaha put all the R7 upgrades (better fork, brakes, slipper clutch) on the MT07. Eliminating the cost of the additional bodywork would result in a better overall value bike than the current MT07 (IMO) and may be something Yamaha ends up regretting not doing in response to the MT07's new higher performing competition (Hornet, GSX 8S, Duke 790).
They've obviously been trying to milk a cash-cow while putting minimal work into the bike's development. They'll now be forced to do something to make it more appealing with the new midweight naked options showing up.
That's probably what the next mt07 will get.
Pretty sure the slipper clutch has been in the mt for a while now.
If Honda Slaps out a cbr750r, the R7 will also have problems. Because the Hornet's got everything the Yamaha's got without the 180 rear wheel.
Ppl have been asking for a Mt07 SP for a while. Yamaha really letting us hang there
@@someguy9520 Honda got you covered, 50more cc, 20 more hp, nice fat showa ups forks.
@Daniel won't buy it, unfortunately. Our insurance rates here work on displacement, and the new Honda puts it in a much higher category and makes it 50% more expensive to insure per month. Mt07 is the sweet spot for me.
The MT range has never done for me in the looks department. R7 looks good, I saw one brave man out on one on Saturday it sounds great too.
He’s not brave reckless it’s not the same lol
I think they should increase their displacement to 699cc and performance...for being in line with gsx8s and hornet...
so so well put together...........great comparative vlog.
It's a hard choice. I want the R7 because it looks great. It sounds great, but I know I will barely go on tracks and living in london. But do you go for comfort or how it makes you feel.
I went and ordered the R7 in blue
I think the ergonomics and comfort go hand-in-hand to the MT-07. For R7 is more along the lines of being more sporty.
The fz07 / mt07 was really special when it was first introduced, but now for $400 more I'd go for the Trident and get better suspension, a slipper clutch, and ride-by-wire / riding modes.
I love my mt07 . I’d like to ride an R7 but realistically I can’t do that seating position long term
The R7 sounds like the perfect second bike
I had the chance to sit on a 2022 honda fireblade 3 weeks ago and I felt like I was sitting or rather lying down on a mini bike. With my height and weight I have to have something with a more comfortable riding position
I am looking for my first bike, and honestly it's going to be between these two, and am strongly considering getting the r7, since the vast majority of my riding will be in the mountains where I live, no city riding or anything.
Damn your first bike ? This might be my second soon as I have my full license. This shits powerful for a first bike
Thanks...buying my MT 7 tomorrow
MT-07. Why would I want a supersport riding position without supersport power? Get a ZX-6R for around the same price. Much better bike.
You can't buy a new 600 cc supersport bike in Europe anymore 😭
600s are getting phased out. They just don't sell, which proves the ones that rave about them either don't buy them or buy them used.
XSR700 all the way. Looks much better than the MT, if you like sports bikes then the R7.
I go with the R7 I really love this one thanks
When the choice is between a markedly better looking all be more uncomfortable bike with better equipment and a less attractive yet more comfortable bike with okay equipment with all things being equal most riders will choose the first bike. In this case there is a significant difference in price. Here is where we seem to rationalize with the bang for buck and pick the first bike anyway.
I see it all the time with strangers, friends and I do it too. So why fight it?
Yamaha should make a new cam for the R7 so it has a little more top end power with a little bit higher rpm limit.
100% agree. They should have cammed it for a more sporty top end.
Then you'd lose that dirty grunt we all love. I think the new Hornet will give you what you're looking for.
@@astrostrotch Ya probably so. The hornet does sound like it'll be good. Im going to have to test one out
Just my opinion. Add USD fork, Brembo radial brake, hydraulic clutch lever and swap seat to closely match MT09 seat styling than MT07 is great banger bike.
For Me: I might Considering upgrading from a 2016 FZ-07 to an MT-09 Tracer
I've owned both. The R7 is twice the bike the MT07 is.
both not for me, I went for the xsr700 instead.
Great review. Really enjoyed your thoughts on these two Yamaha's that a very popular.
What's the reason why MT-07 uses conventional forks rather than inverted forks?
The MT07 not having upside down forks like every other bike its going up against really lets it down and makes it seem old. at my age the ergonomics of the R7 are not for me.
I have a MT09 and love it. So does my back lol
MT07 for me. Wheelie monster.
The answer to that question is Honda 750 Hornet 😁
You convinced me, but your gonna have to explain to my woman why I bought a R7!! 🤙🤙🤙🤭🤣🤣🤣
I have both and i feel the mt07 takes off faster and sounds better.
Tracer 700?
This is the 2022 mt07 correct?
R7 is a beautiful bike. I was literally just checking them out before this video. Pity they don’t have something in between the R7 and R1.
well that's why the R7 sucks because it's just a MT-07R with a R7 badge. i ain't saying it needs allot of power but it should atleast have 90+ hp if it wants to claim it's a R7 which it ain't.
@@rampage3337 I agree, though could be tuned to 120+ps, then it would be decent.
Already for the R9 😁. Got a feeling is gonna be awesome for street
@@asga4rd yup, did some checking and the upcoming R9 will be a great addition.
Not the 300buck exhaust cover on the R7 lmaoo
Out of the two, I'd have to choose a Gen 5 VFR800 🤘
Ok granpa
@@steve-wu7jp 👴
Dear Yamaha... We need R9
too bad the r7 isnt painted fully in that beautiful blue,..
or save an extra 1k n get a mt03 then use the extra money for upgrades
Didn't even watch the vid, but it's rhe r7 all day for the front suspension alone.
Or you could join me on year 8 of waiting for the R9
If you want the best of both.. the tracer 7 is your bike bob.
Please make video also for indian because we love to watch your video
What happened to those 4 cylinder 600 cc R6?
did not pass euro5 emissions
Discontinued unfortunately for the street. They got a black track only version now.
The MT-07 is a real fun bike and I like its looks but if you try to push it on B roads it ties itself in knots, IMO the ideal budget middleweight would be the MT-07 engine in a Trident rolling chassis.
But have you ridden Trident?
Why doesnt mt have usd? When lower cc mt have them?
Price point I would Have thought
But then again a Honda CB500
Has USD..🤔
Well Bob, wilst everyone is debating which one, I am saying both. For the price of an R1 you could have both of these bikes. :-)
I really like the R7, but dealers here are asking for 13K€ for these things...
It's cool but I'd rather import a zx4r for that money.
Mt07 always
In my country, R7 is 2500 Euro more expencive than the MT-07. That's not a small amount of money and therefore, for me MT-07 wins this. Same engine, much more comfy, cheaper.
R7, better brakes, suspension, display and more bodywork. That's where the 2500,- went.
I like the MT07 for ripping around the back country roads where I live…
I would reconsider the MT-07 if the headlight wasn't so hideous. Even the new GSX-8 looks a lot better.
Windscreen would make it look better
To me, that's just not enough. They had an attractive product and ruined it completely. And there are other MT Yamahas just as bad.
@@ricardopessoa8362 not really a problem to everyone but yeah, some people like it and some people don't
Neither, bought an Enfield interceptor 👍
Interceptor is a great bike but MT is way more fun. Guess it all comes down to what you appreciate in a bike.
Easy for me, I don't like sport bike and MT-07 and naked bikes is my choice.
I'll take the MT on the road
XSR700 every day of the week over these two
A kitted out version of the pleb model would probably suit me best. Top box, screen for a bit of wind protection and a horny sounding pipe. Not too much power,too easy to pick up tickets for bad behaviour. Urban growler.
I love r7😍😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍😍🥰😍😘😘😘
This is basically asking someone if they like sportbikes or naked bikes.
You don’t put any passion into reviews these days ,it’s just about cranking it out for sponsors and views
Сделай Субтитры ! ⬅🕇♞
My dumb ass is gonna get an R7 and swap out the clip-ons and rear sets for MT bars and MT rear sets and make me a fully faired MT.
I know which one I want… The T7
The real answer is the T7, at least for tall people like myself.
Zx7R end game
You should buy the new Hornet 750. The mt7 reign is over
XSR700....
Neither? 🤔
Wait until the R9 comes out.
Nice bike but nowhere to go as if it was cOvid
Neither of ‘em 🙂 buy a Hornet. Cheaper, better, same reliability.
Neither. Get the XSR700.
In a weird way the tenere should be here 🤔
Large burrito 😂😂😂
As i understand from a used car expert's review of them, carvertical is rather crappy though.
The R7 hurts my back
The R7 is bloody uncomfortable…
tracer 7😄
Dont buy them i had a MT07 its fucking boring No Power, Bad suspension, crappy seatingposition… only thing it can do is wheelie. Just get a Z900 or a Literbike :)
Neither. Sorry not a huge fan of the MT-07 or R7.
None of the above. Both overpriced
The new R7 is a poser bike. There I said it.