In an ideal world...I think it should be a forever contract...unless cheating or abuse or something along those lines happens...then that person should divorce.
But being realistic...it's changed. So many people get married for all the wrong reasons these days. Personally, I will marry the most kind and thoughtful and compassionate and beautiful woman in the world...or I just wont marry. I'm not going to settle...problems always happen when people settle....
@@mattdavis1735 Problems are even more likely to happen when one expects perfection. It does NOT exist. Been married 42 years. Good and bad. Mostly good.
@@marysueeasteregg That's amazing and wonderful you've married that long! But I don't think it's perfection to want to marry someone who has SUCH an amazing and caring and beautiful heart for others....
Yea, verily. I was a young girl at this same time. Phillip's behavior. My parents would discuss the headlines he made, and the cafe society gossip columnists had a field day with his escapades.
He KNEW what he signed up for. He just didn't like the terms. She was Queen, not just another person in the room. She was raised to be royal and follow all the protocols and understand her place. I think he thought he would be a bigger deal, but that was never to be. He had some dalliances with ballerinas and actresses, but was always discreet about them. Elizabeth may have known about them, but the press never caught him.
First of all, this is a fictional television drama. There is evidence that Philip struggled with his role, but as a royal himself he knew exactly what he was getting into. However, keep in mind that neither he nor Elizabeth expected she would become Queen when she did. George VI was only 56. He was expected to serve at least another 15-20 years. Philip thought he would have time to have his military career. And then he had it unexpectedly torn away from him. Certainly he was upset. But it’s also highly unlikely a conversation like this ever happened. He certainly didn’t pressure Elizabeth into upgrading his title. From all accounts, she pursued that route, even getting input on what the exact title should be. She was also the one who insisted that when her family use a surname, it be Mountbatten-Windsor. Those same accounts have Philip saying a title upgrade wasn’t necessary. I think people have got to stop trying to find any truth in these scenes and view it only as phenomenal television. And it’s phenomenal because the writers created drama between the main characters.
It always amazes me how people belive they were like 2 dolls who were constantly smiling, waving and always being supercute to each other…….. Privately they were just like any other married couple with their ups and downs, and periods of happiness, joy, grief and bitterness…….. It’s called life 🤷🏻♂️
It's weird that the religion that Henry VIII created to divorce Catherine of Aragon - and which he made the sovereign the head of - didn't allow divorce.
It did, but it had stopped being customary. George I was divorced from his wife, but he divorced her even before he became the Elector of Hannover, far less king. George IV wanted to divorce Queen Caroline, but as neither of them was prepared to admit adultery, there were no grounds for doing so.
Officially, the marriage of Henry and Katherine was annulled due to her previous marriage to his brother. Which was why she was known as the Dowager Princess of Wales. Henry was quick like that. His marriage to Anne Boleyn was annulled due to a pre-contract with Henry Percy of Northumberland, but she was executed for adultery, which doesn’t compute, does it? Except if you were around Henry, you kept your opinions to yourself.
He didn't divorce her; he had the marriage annulled on the basis of consanguinity has she had been his elder Arthur's wife. The Catholic Church would not comply with that request due to Spain's power at the time.
That's because Henry VIII didn't create the Anglican Church to get divorced, he created it so he could grant his own annulments for whatever reason he pleased. He annulled his marriage to Katherine on the grounds of her being his sister-in-law, to Anne Boleyn because he slept with her sister, to Anne of Cleves because he never slept with her, and to Catherine Howard because she had been molested as a child. From his POV, he was only married twice: to Jane Seymour who died giving birth, and to Katherine Parr who became his widow. The modern royal family doesn't dabble in annulments anymore because they can get too messy, and any children born from an annulled marriage are considered illegitimate. Elizabeth couldn't divorce Philip, but she could annul her marriage to him; however, that would mean their children would no longer be royal heirs, and the Throne would have to pass to Margaret's children.
From what I've understood, he was informed by her father what the job was. And it wasn't to be a behind-the-scenes king like he thought. It was to support her, and it wouldn't be easy, especially for a man used to getting his way and growing up when and how he did. Her parents didn't think much of him and tried to introduce her to other men since she and Margaret had been pretty isolated. But since she was already besotted with Phillip, she wouldn't really look at them. Upper-class women were expected to obey their husbands and look the other way if they had affairs and that's what he expected. Lord Mountbatten didn't help when he went around saying when she took the throne that the royal family name would be Mountbatten. Queen Mary and the Queen Mother put a kibosh to that, and I believe Churchill more than put his two cents in.
All that is true, but no one expected the king to die as suddenly as he did, and Philip's complaint about the "men with mustaches" (Margaret's phrase) was valid. Some of them were left-overs from the reign of George V, who has unutterably opposed to any change whatsoever.
Ah yes, Mountbatten who enjoyed the company of boys and who was disappeared before the scandal was allowed to break. Media covered it as an IRA bombing - very successfully done. The truth is out there if you look for it.
@neilmcbeath954 As they should have been. The monarchy had already born the scandal of the Mrs. Simpson. Had the war not united the country everything could have easily gone different. In that line the same thing happens over and over again. They aim for perfection, always come up short and then rather than appealing to the public that heads of state have feet made of clay they pretend nothing is amiss
I remember when I first learned that Matt Smith was cast as Daemon I was unsure of it. But I remember my parents watching this on TV. He’s got phenomenal range. And he plays Daemon fantastically
U are quite the jackass aren't u? Women were massive powerplayers while being in the background. Most of them preferred that because it gave them more control than they would get in front. For God's sake, shove ur gender bullshit elsewhere
Except women today haven't been experienced "what women have feeling for thousands of years." Feminisys have this weird schadenfreude of making men - white men in particular - suffer for injustices that they themselves never experienced, nor the men are complicit in. Collectivism is weird. Generational atonement is even weirder. Reject wokeness.
He can't. They ALL knew he wasnt fit. Look at his choice of wife; messy past, constantly dishevelled, terrible at dealing with the public, no charm, in bed with the tabloids and constantly instigating mess with his boys to keep her son's shenanigans out of the press.
@lekis5975 No question he has a mess on his hands, especially with the rottweiller. If they do have an illegitimate son together, she could be threatening to expose that if she doesn't get her way on various issues. Looks like we could end up with another car crash of sorts on the horizon, but she could also have in the works the exposure when she dies. If any of that is the case, she has lots of leverage on her side. And there isn't anything Upchuck can do but give in to her demands - at least while he's still alive. After he croaks, her leveraging is against Prince William. The only solution is for the illegitimate son to die in a car crash like Princess Diana. But he won't get the lavish funeral like the beloved princess did. Everything hush hush, you know.
@@lucybraun8969 I don't even think she twists his arm. He's a weak man even his parents said it. Diana later opined on it. Camilla is the spitting image of his beloved nanny Mabel Anderson...they say men marry who resemble/remind them of their mothers.
I am British and old enough to remember post war life. It is unfair to judge this couple through a 21st century lens. The late Queen lived a life of duty and neglected her family life. Philip by all measures was a scoundrel. However I believe this was par for the course in Royal circles.
Claire Foy was so brilliantly cast in the role of the young Queen. I love those episodes most of all because it really feels like we have gone back in time. That we are perhaps one of her Corgis sitting quietly in the room taking it all in, yet unable to speak a word to anyone about it to anyone! Cheers, Michael Albuquerque NM USA
They were so young! She was Engaged at 20 and had her first child when she was barely 21. What person on the world stage in this day and age with so much responsibility would do this? Barely no one! I’m surprised they kept it together….
@Novarcharesk TL;DR that's been the standard because the life expectancy has been lower, education standards were different, and society was different. This is 1956 (I work that out by Philip saying that Charles is 8 years old). In 1956: -the average life expectancy was between 66 and 70, depending on gender and class -the school leaving age was 15 -in the 1950s, only 3% of people went directly from school to university at 18 -it was not suitable for an unmarried couple to live together as a married couple -approximately 80-90% of people in Britain considered themselves Christian -women are more likely to become housewives or go into "simple" careers -the average age for a heterosexual first marriage is between 22 and 25 Now, in 2025: -the average life expectancy was between 88 and 92, depending on gender and class -the school leaving age is 18 -in the 2020s, between 30-40% of people went directly from school to university at 18 -it is suitable for an unmarried couple to live together as a married couple -approximately 46% of people in Britain considered themselves Christian with, in 2021, 37.2% considering themselves as having no religion. -it is acceptable for women to have a "complicated" career path -the average age for a heterosexual first marriage is between 35 and 39 With all this, I hope it's made obvious that circumstances have changed significantly. I don't know how old you are, but an increase in the length of time for compulsory education, an increase in the amount of people going to university, and men (as from the 1960s) no longer having compulsory military service allowed people to look at the future differently. 21 is only now young because people are getting into full-time work at a later age due to spending more time in education and also career choices and training going on longer. People are expected to ensure they are financially secure before they are married. This went on much longer than I expected. My stats come from ONS. I disclude homosexual marriage as it was not legal in the 1950s. I disclude reference to the NHS as it was only founded in 1948 and medical care and aid was significantly different.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect - from various biographies and documentaries - that Claire Foy imparts depths and sensitivities to the Queen which the latter did not really possess. I suspect that the authentic Queen was much less angst-ridden and generally less complicated than the Crown will have us believe.
In my opinion, since She was still young, you can consider that She is not THE QUEEN, as She grows old she loses her traces of sensibility and becomes the crown
I agree. I think she was a selfish and mean person (look at what she did to her sister), and everyone in that family just had to take it. They made stories of how wonderful she was, bc of course they always do. But she didn’t have to be so mean to everyone around her. She didn’t need to have everyone so far below her. She CHOSE that.
@@squreshi8413 she didn't do anything to her sister. Margareth wanted her cake and eat it too. She could have married Peter but had to give up some royal perks. She preferred the perks.
He didn’t have an issue he just wanted to be treated like the king of England which he was not he was the prince consort and he truly had no say as his WIFE was the QUEEN REGENT no conversation was needed. All that needed to be said was “I am the Queen of England if you have an issue with the arrangement you should’ve married someone else”
Perhaps not feasible, but if she let the scandal drop that he was screwing around on her, I could imagine the public being far more sympathetic to her in a divorce. He would've had to leave the country.
royal or not everyone has to make some concessions in a marriage even the queen of a nation. if you want compliance you have to at the very least make it bearable to do so. how do you expect a man like him to be able to bear with having every aspect of his masculinity tore from him and expect him to be able to bear with the situation. in many ways she knew who she married. you can not expect to marry a traditional paragon of masculine energy and expect he will quietly have his balls clipped off by the institution that is the crown. she could have marrried a family friend who was well aware fo what being the queens consort would force him to be and was much more agreeable but thats not who she was attracted to.
@codingwithjodie.7319 He had known exactly what he was marrying into being from Royal family himself. He knew fully well of what had been expected from himself as late Queen Regent Elizabeth's own husband before they had ever married. If he couldn't handle her being Royalty above himself, then he should not asked to married future Queen Regent of England. She had responsibility towards privacy life and public life at exactly same moments that could never be changed towards his own personal wishes or feelings. He was equally accountable and responsible of what happens within their own Royal marriage not just late Queen Elizabeth. He had seem to be rebellious against what was expected of himself awhile he had always known what was expected of himself before marriage as Royal Prince himself who had chosen to married future Queen Regent who must put her Royal duties first in many incidents over her own personal wishes and wants towards her own family and privacy too. As old saying for women can be used for this incident- he needs to pull up his big adult's underwear and move forward in doing his adult responsibilities instead of being rebellious complaining child. Late Queen Elizabeth had no way to be rebellious as Queen Regent of England from young adult age. She needed love and support from her own husband instead of rebellious husband who was intentionally adding further deeper stressful issues within her own life on top of everything else she was dealing with as wife , Mum and Queen Regent that did need to come first and foremost within their lives since she was #1 leadership of Royal Firm duties and responsibilities as Queen Regent of England. He had always known she couldn't put her duties and responsibilities as Queen Regent last within their lives but he still had been rebellious despite knowing the truth that had most definitely put deeper stressful pressure onto Queen Elizabeth even moreso in unfairness and gaslighting towards herself within itself from Prince Philip.
@@ladyvimto5546 I mean he wasn’t innocent. Albert was taught by his elders to do things such as keep Victoria pregnant so he could assume more of her duties. There’s a reason there’s a part of Canada named for him 😭 if Victoria could have made him king she would have
@@jontaedouglas7244But anyway… Albert was smart enough to keep Victoria pleased and never loose her affection. He knows she was the most powerful person in their relationship and it could’ve be a hell (for both of them), but no, he knew his place and was his wife favorite person till the end. Phillip should’ve taken notes.
@@gabriellacardosopaiva417This. They were truly devoted to one another. And if how the country was run before his death compared to after is any indication, Albert was a very successful co-ruler. Victoria seemed to trust his judgement and may have felt relief from his assistance. Phillip however... I couldn't see Elizabeth ever doing the same and her duties were much less overreaching than Victoria's ever were.
It amazed me that she always thought because she was when nothing bad should ever happen to her. But when people called her out on her stuff she immediately reverted back to I'm the Queen.
He worked hard achieved a lot before he married. You have to try to understand him. He had to walk behind her. Had to behave in a certain way. He probably just got fed up of it at one point. But he was her rock.
Early-seasons Philip annoyed me so much. If you can’t handle “coming second” and being given instructions, don’t marry a queen. They both knew she’d be queen one day, her father was already king when they married. He is correct about the “mustaches” treating him like crap, though. I don’t like them either.
Well, to be fair, had Edward not abdicated to pursue a one-sided love affair, Elizabeth wouldn't have become queen at all and she and Philip could have lived a relatively normal life.
@@fjorgyn7438Actually she would have become Queen had Edward stayed on the throne. Edward produced no heirs. Therefore she would have become Queen in 1972 after Edward’s death.
@@fjorgyn7438Edward did not abdicate, he was PUSHED. The abdication story was concocted to protect the Monarchy. The man was a nazi loving traitor who should have been made to stand for treason.
I suspect they didn't think her becoming queen would happen as quickly as it did, regardless of how ill her father was. Many of us have moments in life that happen in the blink of an eye and we're thrust into something unfamiliar. One could never be prepared to be the spouse of a monarch. Especially in the 1950s where women had roles as homemakers.
He had a pretty good life. He improve his finances by marrying Elizabeth. He had affaires . There was, there is always , a price to pay: he was just the husband of the queen.
Philip knew what he had signed up for, BUT he had not signed up for the humiliation to which he had been constantly subjected by both her family and the army of sycophants (advisors, councilors, secretaries, prime-ministers, simple courtiers) that kept the monarchy running. The problem is that she had no guts to tell these people to f. off because she was too young, uneducated (she herself acknowledges the disadvantage she's at because of her lack of formal education) and intimidated by their authority. At the same time, she had no problem acting cold and imperious towards those who loved her or cared about her anyway (Philip, Margaret, Edward VIII, Charles). Up to the very final season she fails to realise the damage that she's been doing to so many people in her family by hiding behind protocol. Royal protocol is not Moses' decalogue, it can be challenged and even changed, depending on the personality of the monarch, but she always dreaded change and, as her uncle said, she had no personality at all, she thought that by keeping her head in the sand problems would miraculously disappear. This scene is so eloquent as it reveals an un-empathetic queen incapable of understanding basic human feelings.
Well said. She was good at bending the rules to suit herself, and very good at mercilessly wielding her power over her relatives, her husband included. She listened to her mother over her husband. Phillip grew up in the real world and offered good advice but she chose to listen to her dinosaur of a mother hence why she never mordenised the monarchy, and now the whole thing is an archaic mess.
Rather she was just an uncomplicated, easy going, conscientious person. She fulfilled her duties, perhaps she knew her own limitations and did not try to create something new because of it. The fact that her family was more complex and selfish meant that most of them created their own problems, typical problems of rich people who don't know what to do with themselves. She benefited from this lifestyle because no one cares about any European monarchy anymore, but everyone knew the Queen of England. If she behaved as you say, she would become irrelevant like everyone else.
@maggielovegood1667 She wa neither uncomplicated nor easy going, she was insecure, competitive, selfish, manipulative and quite the actress hence why she was able to play the same character for years, only changing with age. She made mistakes but she was lucky the papers had a pact with the palace not to expose her. She was a terrible person that's why her children are problematic. The press exposed her children, and in doing so exposed who she really was. Her children are very entitled, who do you think taught them to be like that? She didn't have an education, so why didn't she encourage her daughter Anne to go to university? The Dutch queens made sure to attend university, and so did the Danish Queen. It was one thing for her not to go, it was quite another thing for her not to ensure Anne attended. Anne is very arrogant and backwards thinking.
@maggielovegood1667 In the end she became irrelevant, when she passed away the country barely mourned her, the Monarchy is nigh on irrelevant, nobody cares about Charles, Camilla, William or Kate. People only pretend to care about Kate because they hate Meghan, but they don't keep track of her work, then again, it's not as if she does much. The kween imposed limitations on her family because she wanted to be THE star, she didn't want a repeat of Diana. William and Kate were ironed into replicas of her, too bad no one is interested in that type of Monarch; stiff, boring, pretends to do charity work when in reality all they do is show up, shake hands, smile, cut ribbons, make inane speeches written by others. She gave them that script and it's not working any more.
I don't know how much truths is the drama projecting, but again and again, it shows that people shouldn't marry too far out of their own kind! Philip was a Prince himself in his own country, but unfortunately, Greece abolished the Monarchy, therefore, Philip was just another person married into loyalty. Even with his royal background it was still hard to make it work, so imagine someone with an even more ordinary background! The irony is, snobbery doesn't always come from the actual royal members, but from their servants or staff as we call them nowadays!!
I don't imagine it's word for word But do believe they had lots of these types of conversation. They both had massive roles to play . & They both deserve a massive 👏 they did a massive service to the monarchy That nobody before Lets hope William & Catherine do the same . Everyone knows Charles & lautre are juste prosidure they royal have to do .
Phillip was originally a prince of Greece and Denmark, something he had to renounce just to marry Elizabeth (so he wouldn't become king when she became queen, I think). He didn't care about his royal title anyway, his military career was his pride and passion. Then royal requirements cut his career short and royal standing was all he had left, so he wanted his princehood back. I get his reasoning.
What strikes me is the way he makes her responsible for the way other people perceive him, and makes that the condition for staying in the marriage. Talk about setting unrealistic expectations.
He actually have a good point. He is that way over something that can be changed. She did not have to send him away. They could’ve had this talk prior to that action. I think if they would’ve been more loving to each other behind closed doors, it would be no issue. If she would do more in a sense of respecting him as her husband it would’ve been better. And most important if they would’ve had talks initiated by her to explain his role, his dues and don’ts of the situation at hand, it would’ve been better. Now going off of this movie it look like she stepped out as well or was close to it. Anytime your mind start to wrap around someone else it’s always a problem. That’s why you don’t do that.
When watching this, keep in the back of your mind that, in order to marry Elizabeth, Phillip was forced to abdicate multiple royal titles, right after seeing his family murdered by socialists.
@nakuruhike7991 The Russian royal family were EXECUTED! They used Prince Phillips DNA to identify the bodies so you are WRONG! Patricia Gambino Harrington
They used Prince Phillips DNA to identify the Russian royal families bodies so you are correct some of his family were executed! Patricia Gambino Harrington
@@irisjanemay1903They were all related to the Romanovs - including Elizabeth - through Queen Victoria. They weren’t Philip’s immediate family. He was part of the Greek royal family - though technically Danish. Victoria’s descendants got around. 😂 His grandfather was assassinated 9 years before he was born & Philip was 5th in line (meaning not at all) to a non-existent throne.
ISTG Matt Smith's pissy-faced portrayal made it impossible to see how anyone, least of all, Queen Elizabeth, could suffer 60 seconds of Philip's company.
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They got to this point due to the late kings death. She became queen to early, he wanted his career and then in the retirement phase of Iife be the doting consort. The crown always wins. She had no choice, plus the D word in the 50s was frowned on and they were already on icey ground with the people due to the hangover of the war and she found that silly photo in his pocket like a stupid ass he was to forget it in there. As a child of a recent divorce I know the signs.
Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip talking about the power differential in their relationship is a page out of Family Systems 101. According to Dr. Paul Garcia-Reid and Dr. Roberta “Bobbie” Reid of the Montclair University New Jersey Mamalestian American Cultural Association has said that power differentials between spouses is akin to “the Balenyata Principle” which states that imbalanced power differentials often lead to a breakdown of effective dialectical communication and consequently the seizing of the system within.
Marriage is exactly what two people make of it. It’s a very slow grind, especially if it works for years. If it works, neither get what they want, because the concept of more is around. But, I wish someone would explain the last statement from Phillip, because It makes me think something concerning Charles birth, is “off”.
He wanted it and knew that his child would outrank him as the heir to the throne. He cheated on her and she turned a blind eye. He acted like a spoiled child. Not attractive
That’s what you lot always say. No one could possibly know what it would be like. If he’d walked away, they’d have crashed, so he should have been treated with a damn sight more respect. To treat a man like Phillip like this is to ask for trouble. But they’ve learned nothing, and now the defender of the faith is divorced and married to his mistress. There is not a single argument for their merit. I just hang out for the day my nation becomes a republic. A few more fossils have to drop off and we’re there.
No, he acted like a man being incessantly micromanaged by the suits . Early on nothing he did was good enough; he was tolerated as the Queen HAD to have a consort. The suits didn’t want to know he could be an asset, as they didn’t want their own influence undermined. Elizabeth is staggeringly lacking in empathy not to see this. But she was raised to have tunnel vision. However, this IS drama, not a documentary. I refuse to take any of it as gospel.
What I didn't get was how was he not technically a Prince by birthright already? He is a great grandchild to Queen Victoria, the same as his wife. While the house of Windsor may hold the British throne, his family, despite being deposed from Greece, is no less of royal blood than hers. Would he not have had the title of King Consort upon his wife's ascension to the throne?
Kings are above Queens, therefore the husband of a reigning queen cannot hold the title of King, only Prince Consort (unless they were King in their own right, such as king of another country).
I always thought she should have chosen an older English aristocrat who understood his role as prince consort, not king. Unfortunately she was obsessed with Philip and he was not suited to his role. He wanted to be king either openly or covertly. His wife was The Crown. He was never going to get that. I also thought he wasn’t a very good father to Charles. Charles was just as insecure as his father and so totally jealous of his wife Diana. Silly, the both of them.
Also, his birth family was a mess, they scattered when he 9 years old; dad ran to Monte Carlo to live a life of sin; mom lost her mind, to get out of the gouse, hus sisters ran off to get married (including one aged 16). He didnt kniw gow to be a family man, because he had no example!
magnificent drama but i've come to learned much of this specific story is fiction. before this there are few instances where the cabinet suggests giving a title to the duke but he refuses always and shuts it down. after a long while he accepts it and its pre-determined that its announced after lisbon. there were even talks of making him the consort in the case of queen's unavailability or demise, until charles was older, but he refused that too. from what i gather it was queen who wanted to give him titles and all cause she thought they would make him happier or more comfortable but he was never after titles just after a life where his wife isn't the focal point. which is fair cause its not *exactly* what he signed up for. he thought he'd be a retired and accomplished man by the time elizabeth would be queen but that didn't happen. he was in his late 20s and going for the peak of his career when his lifestyle was forced to make a 180 turn.
Prince Philip abdicated his titles as Prince of Greece and Denmark for a woman of England......just England who has degraded him and worse excluded his own name not to be included to his own children. It took a parliamentary hearing to approve it. Oh Prince Philip always be known as Duke of Edinburgh. What a degraded man. After Prince Edward received his father's title Duke of Edinburgh it is said it will be removed from the Royal Ranks. Prince Philip was right he was treated like a foreigner simply because his sisters married Nazi's.
Simply? 😂 Seems legit to me. Let's also acknowledge he was a gold digger. His uncle put him in front of a young impressionable Princess Elizabeth, so his couch surfing nephew had a chance of catching her eye. What better way to get him settled than marrying the princess.
God, he's such a whiny baby. He lives a life of enormous wealth, prestige, grandeur, and he can't shut up about the fact that someone else ranks above him. He KNEW THIS going in. It wasn't a surprise...
I think that her marrying that young has quite a lot of simmilarities with princess Di. Both married or got to know their spouses, lot older than them really young. Both of them were man with ambitions who were denied their spotlight. While prince Charles is mostly her creation I think that prince Philip had an agenda of his own. Had the divorce taken place god knows what would have happened.
Because Megan is a horrible person. She wanted to do things her way. That is not how the royal family works. When Megan didn't get her own way. What did she do? Go on Oprah and lie. Called everyone a racist. Princess Catherine is doing a great job. There is something wrong with Harry. Not even his past girlfriends tolerated his behavior for long becausethey broke up with him.
"Exit route opened to anyone else" She remembers it was technically her ancestor that made the hole country protestant JUST so he could get away with divorcing his wife?
I would never marry into that family. Everybody seemed miserable. You can’t show your emotions you gotta be a robot. You gotta listen to people complain about you moping and whining like omg no 😂😂 It’s like you trap yourself into being unhappy for the rest of your life.
You only see what the newspapers print. We don't know how their personal life is in private. You can't take Harry and Megan's word for what happens behind closed doors. At this point, they are known as proven liars.
I think, if he would have had the posibility to educate his son's as a normal father, they would have had the chsance to develop to normal people, who knew about love and about their limits.
He married the most important woman on earth and thought he would still be the head of the household. He then stepped out on her breaking his wedding vows, and then proceeded to sulk like a child when he didn’t get his way.
Well, in my opinion, it’s hard for a spouse to give up everything, but he knew what he was getting himself into, and I guess love is blind, and there was a previous episode of the crown, where I forget what his name is the tall guy that has the mustache I think he was playing the queen from the start because he’s the one that pressured her trying like to control her so the family would go and live not where they supposed to have lived or they were doing all that remodeling to go live in Buckingham Palace, so there was in my opinion some control there by parliament to control her and her actions but I do see it in Phillipses point of you he thought he was going to live there and be able to be the man of the house and he was not in that made him very pissed
The reason why the Great Britain is no longer great is that the Heads of the States of the US, China or Russia do not spend significant amount of time in discussing these kinds of petty matters. They invest time and money in serious matters like oil, microchips and capital ventures which the Great Britain could also have thought about but they didn't.
You do realize this is dramatized fiction….. the British monarchy has been less and less involved in actual governance since the Hanovers took over, that’s what happens when you have a foreign ruler come in. What the British monarchy chooses to discuss over tea has no bearing on actual government policy.
He had many affairs. One very close relationship lasted 30 years. He was bored with the Queen cause she was not well educated. He loved deep chats they never had that.
To ask me to continue in a marriage I do not want because of tradition and protocol is a big maybe; to ask me to remain in it and be faithful is a definite no way.
You clearly don't understand the royals period or their roles. You couldn't just leave back then. Perhaps educate yourself on how the royal family worked and not go by a Netflix series.
Funny, Philip goes directly to money, "how much"? I didn't like him. I think he was a mastermind to protect the Monarchy at all cost; money or life, no difference!
This is what adults do when their marriage is not working… they talk about it, they negotiate “how to make it bearable “ and they try . They don’t ask their wife to be nice with the mistress!
He did ask her to be nice to the mistress, thats why she was photographed with her. She was the only outsider to attend his funeral too. Their son learnt that nonsense from his papa.
He was broke & ousted from his country & status when they met. He had nothing. He saw a good thing. From nothing to the world! Whiney, pouting little boy. Sounds a bit like Charles.
Well, he was just a pompous, self-centered pathetic, narcissistic, toad. She is the queen she’s lovely. She’s sweet. How hard is it to be married to someone like that? It’s because his ego and self inflated sense of importance was bruised , because he was a pathetic child.
The kween was a nasty piece of work adept at wearing a mask in public, consumate actress. Why do you think her children are so ill mannered and everyone who marries has a hard time?
Do you think marriage is a forever contract or has it changed?
marriage is not forever believe me
In an ideal world...I think it should be a forever contract...unless cheating or abuse or something along those lines happens...then that person should divorce.
But being realistic...it's changed. So many people get married for all the wrong reasons these days. Personally, I will marry the most kind and thoughtful and compassionate and beautiful woman in the world...or I just wont marry. I'm not going to settle...problems always happen when people settle....
@@mattdavis1735 Problems are even more likely to happen when one expects perfection. It does NOT exist.
Been married 42 years. Good and bad. Mostly good.
@@marysueeasteregg That's amazing and wonderful you've married that long! But I don't think it's perfection to want to marry someone who has SUCH an amazing and caring and beautiful heart for others....
Like her father said at the end of the first episode: She is the job.
Yea, verily. I was a young girl at this same time. Phillip's behavior. My parents would discuss the headlines he made, and the cafe society gossip columnists had a field day with his escapades.
He KNEW what he signed up for. He just didn't like the terms. She was Queen, not just another person in the room. She was raised to be royal and follow all the protocols and understand her place. I think he thought he would be a bigger deal, but that was never to be. He had some dalliances with ballerinas and actresses, but was always discreet about them. Elizabeth may have known about them, but the press never caught him.
Did he fully though
Perhaps he did. But theory and practise were clearly very different.
First of all, this is a fictional television drama. There is evidence that Philip struggled with his role, but as a royal himself he knew exactly what he was getting into. However, keep in mind that neither he nor Elizabeth expected she would become Queen when she did. George VI was only 56. He was expected to serve at least another 15-20 years. Philip thought he would have time to have his military career. And then he had it unexpectedly torn away from him. Certainly he was upset. But it’s also highly unlikely a conversation like this ever happened. He certainly didn’t pressure Elizabeth into upgrading his title. From all accounts, she pursued that route, even getting input on what the exact title should be. She was also the one who insisted that when her family use a surname, it be Mountbatten-Windsor. Those same accounts have Philip saying a title upgrade wasn’t necessary.
I think people have got to stop trying to find any truth in these scenes and view it only as phenomenal television. And it’s phenomenal because the writers created drama between the main characters.
@@jasonkoch3182 people confuse ACTORS with the characters they play, I'm not surprised ppl believe this is the most accurate documentary ever.
He was more royal than her.
I just realized they're on a ship. Talk about rocking the boat.
@@LukeKetchum7003 well they are talking about their relationSHIP
@@LukeKetchum7003 They're on a ship?
@@harringt100probably Britannia.
@@lauraamundson769 I’ve been on Britannia; the bedrooms were NOTHING like that. They were small and poky.
Lmao 💀
It always amazes me how people belive they were like 2 dolls who were constantly smiling, waving and always being supercute to each other…….. Privately they were just like any other married couple with their ups and downs, and periods of happiness, joy, grief and bitterness…….. It’s called life 🤷🏻♂️
That look from Foy at the end as the realisation hits her and she finally understands is brilliant.
What did she realise? (Sorry, I'm slow)
That Philip is the father of the next in line and therefore he deserves respect and authority
@KevinPerezGranadathank you I was a bit lost too.
@ You are welcome :)
@ That he's being treated as a subject, a servant, not a husband and a father.
It's weird that the religion that Henry VIII created to divorce Catherine of Aragon - and which he made the sovereign the head of - didn't allow divorce.
It did, but it had stopped being customary. George I was divorced from his wife, but he divorced her even before he became the Elector of Hannover, far less king. George IV wanted to divorce Queen Caroline, but as neither of them was prepared to admit adultery, there were no grounds for doing so.
Officially, the marriage of Henry and Katherine was annulled due to her previous marriage to his brother. Which was why she was known as the Dowager Princess of Wales. Henry was quick like that. His marriage to Anne Boleyn was annulled due to a pre-contract with Henry Percy of Northumberland, but she was executed for adultery, which doesn’t compute, does it? Except if you were around Henry, you kept your opinions to yourself.
He didn't divorce her; he had the marriage annulled on the basis of consanguinity has she had been his elder Arthur's wife. The Catholic Church would not comply with that request due to Spain's power at the time.
The whole Anglican Church is a sham that needlessly separated the island of Britain form the rest of Catholicism just for the wants of a single man
That's because Henry VIII didn't create the Anglican Church to get divorced, he created it so he could grant his own annulments for whatever reason he pleased. He annulled his marriage to Katherine on the grounds of her being his sister-in-law, to Anne Boleyn because he slept with her sister, to Anne of Cleves because he never slept with her, and to Catherine Howard because she had been molested as a child. From his POV, he was only married twice: to Jane Seymour who died giving birth, and to Katherine Parr who became his widow.
The modern royal family doesn't dabble in annulments anymore because they can get too messy, and any children born from an annulled marriage are considered illegitimate. Elizabeth couldn't divorce Philip, but she could annul her marriage to him; however, that would mean their children would no longer be royal heirs, and the Throne would have to pass to Margaret's children.
From what I've understood, he was informed by her father what the job was. And it wasn't to be a behind-the-scenes king like he thought. It was to support her, and it wouldn't be easy, especially for a man used to getting his way and growing up when and how he did. Her parents didn't think much of him and tried to introduce her to other men since she and Margaret had been pretty isolated. But since she was already besotted with Phillip, she wouldn't really look at them. Upper-class women were expected to obey their husbands and look the other way if they had affairs and that's what he expected. Lord Mountbatten didn't help when he went around saying when she took the throne that the royal family name would be Mountbatten. Queen Mary and the Queen Mother put a kibosh to that, and I believe Churchill more than put his two cents in.
All that is true, but no one expected the king to die as suddenly as he did, and Philip's complaint about the "men with mustaches" (Margaret's phrase) was valid. Some of them were left-overs from the reign of George V, who has unutterably opposed to any change whatsoever.
Ah yes, Mountbatten who enjoyed the company of boys and who was disappeared before the scandal was allowed to break. Media covered it as an IRA bombing - very successfully done. The truth is out there if you look for it.
@neilmcbeath954 As they should have been. The monarchy had already born the scandal of the Mrs. Simpson. Had the war not united the country everything could have easily gone different. In that line the same thing happens over and over again. They aim for perfection, always come up short and then rather than appealing to the public that heads of state have feet made of clay they pretend nothing is amiss
It's like history repeats itself even now. No particular persons mentioned 😮
@@marmor1973 But this scene is not "history". It is very probably complete fiction.
Daemon just can't stop getting sent away by his Queen.
Ha you beat me to it!
After this argument he flew to Inverness and fed troublesome peasants who wanted a republic to his dragon.
Its in a deleted scene.
I remember when I first learned that Matt Smith was cast as Daemon I was unsure of it. But I remember my parents watching this on TV. He’s got phenomenal range. And he plays Daemon fantastically
Cringe
lol….had to scroll through a lot of comments before seeing a HOTD reference. But hey, Daemon did bend the knee eventually
Sounds like Phillip is feeling what women have been feeling for thousands of years.
Except most women are married to poor guys 😂😂😂
U are quite the jackass aren't u? Women were massive powerplayers while being in the background. Most of them preferred that because it gave them more control than they would get in front. For God's sake, shove ur gender bullshit elsewhere
@@SlappadatfaceRight! Women are supposed to bend over backwards and look the other way while surviving on crumbs and neglect.
Except women today haven't been experienced "what women have feeling for thousands of years." Feminisys have this weird schadenfreude of making men - white men in particular - suffer for injustices that they themselves never experienced, nor the men are complicit in. Collectivism is weird. Generational atonement is even weirder. Reject wokeness.
@@Slappadatface even women dealing with rich unfaithful husband's and having to keep face in society
She held it together so long. Heaven knows if the heir to the throne can do likewise. Let's pray so.
He can't. They ALL knew he wasnt fit. Look at his choice of wife; messy past, constantly dishevelled, terrible at dealing with the public, no charm, in bed with the tabloids and constantly instigating mess with his boys to keep her son's shenanigans out of the press.
@lekis5975 No question he has a mess on his hands, especially with the rottweiller. If they do have an illegitimate son together, she could be threatening to expose that if she doesn't get her way on various issues. Looks like we could end up with another car crash of sorts on the horizon, but she could also have in the works the exposure when she dies. If any of that is the case, she has lots of leverage on her side. And there isn't anything Upchuck can do but give in to her demands - at least while he's still alive. After he croaks, her leveraging is against Prince William. The only solution is for the illegitimate son to die in a car crash like Princess Diana. But he won't get the lavish funeral like the beloved princess did. Everything hush hush, you know.
@@lucybraun8969 I don't even think she twists his arm. He's a weak man even his parents said it. Diana later opined on it. Camilla is the spitting image of his beloved nanny Mabel Anderson...they say men marry who resemble/remind them of their mothers.
I am British and old enough to remember post war life. It is unfair to judge this couple through a 21st century lens. The late Queen lived a life of duty and neglected her family life. Philip by all measures was a scoundrel. However I believe this was par for the course in Royal circles.
Claire Foy was so brilliantly cast in the role of the young Queen. I love those episodes most of all because it really feels like we have gone back in time. That we are perhaps one of her Corgis sitting quietly in the room taking it all in, yet unable to speak a word to anyone about it to anyone!
Cheers, Michael Albuquerque NM USA
They were so young! She was Engaged at 20 and had her first child when she was barely 21. What person on the world stage in this day and age with so much responsibility would do this? Barely no one! I’m surprised they kept it together….
You think that's young? That's been standard for all of human history except for the last century. How solipsistic are you?
@Novarcharesk TL;DR that's been the standard because the life expectancy has been lower, education standards were different, and society was different.
This is 1956 (I work that out by Philip saying that Charles is 8 years old). In 1956:
-the average life expectancy was between 66 and 70, depending on gender and class
-the school leaving age was 15
-in the 1950s, only 3% of people went directly from school to university at 18
-it was not suitable for an unmarried couple to live together as a married couple
-approximately 80-90% of people in Britain considered themselves Christian
-women are more likely to become housewives or go into "simple" careers
-the average age for a heterosexual first marriage is between 22 and 25
Now, in 2025:
-the average life expectancy was between 88 and 92, depending on gender and class
-the school leaving age is 18
-in the 2020s, between 30-40% of people went directly from school to university at 18
-it is suitable for an unmarried couple to live together as a married couple
-approximately 46% of people in Britain considered themselves Christian with, in 2021, 37.2% considering themselves as having no religion.
-it is acceptable for women to have a "complicated" career path
-the average age for a heterosexual first marriage is between 35 and 39
With all this, I hope it's made obvious that circumstances have changed significantly. I don't know how old you are, but an increase in the length of time for compulsory education, an increase in the amount of people going to university, and men (as from the 1960s) no longer having compulsory military service allowed people to look at the future differently.
21 is only now young because people are getting into full-time work at a later age due to spending more time in education and also career choices and training going on longer. People are expected to ensure they are financially secure before they are married.
This went on much longer than I expected.
My stats come from ONS. I disclude homosexual marriage as it was not legal in the 1950s. I disclude reference to the NHS as it was only founded in 1948 and medical care and aid was significantly different.
@@NovarchareskJesus Christ, shut up.
I may be wrong but I strongly suspect - from various biographies and documentaries - that Claire Foy imparts depths and sensitivities to the Queen which the latter did not really possess. I suspect that the authentic Queen was much less angst-ridden and generally less complicated than the Crown will have us believe.
In my opinion, since She was still young, you can consider that She is not THE QUEEN, as She grows old she loses her traces of sensibility and becomes the crown
And how sure are you? Were you and the Queen friends? Of course you are wrong
The real queen was a happy woman.
I agree. I think she was a selfish and mean person (look at what she did to her sister), and everyone in that family just had to take it. They made stories of how wonderful she was, bc of course they always do. But she didn’t have to be so mean to everyone around her. She didn’t need to have everyone so far below her. She CHOSE that.
@@squreshi8413 she didn't do anything to her sister. Margareth wanted her cake and eat it too. She could have married Peter but had to give up some royal perks. She preferred the perks.
them talking about a marriage that's about to end on an unstable boat, this scene is the exact definition of pun: "our marriage is on the rocks."
Victoria and Albert had the same sort of tension. Behind the scenes, there was always tussling for power.
Respect is earned not just given, otherwise it is not respect, it’s a sop to a bruised ego
He didn’t have an issue he just wanted to be treated like the king of England which he was not he was the prince consort and he truly had no say as his WIFE was the QUEEN REGENT no conversation was needed. All that needed to be said was “I am the Queen of England if you have an issue with the arrangement you should’ve married someone else”
Perhaps not feasible, but if she let the scandal drop that he was screwing around on her, I could imagine the public being far more sympathetic to her in a divorce. He would've had to leave the country.
royal or not everyone has to make some concessions in a marriage even the queen of a nation. if you want compliance you have to at the very least make it bearable to do so. how do you expect a man like him to be able to bear with having every aspect of his masculinity tore from him and expect him to be able to bear with the situation. in many ways she knew who she married. you can not expect to marry a traditional paragon of masculine energy and expect he will quietly have his balls clipped off by the institution that is the crown. she could have marrried a family friend who was well aware fo what being the queens consort would force him to be and was much more agreeable but thats not who she was attracted to.
@codingwithjodie.7319 He had known exactly what he was marrying into being from Royal family himself. He knew fully well of what had been expected from himself as late Queen Regent Elizabeth's own husband before they had ever married. If he couldn't handle her being Royalty above himself, then he should not asked to married future Queen Regent of England. She had responsibility towards privacy life and public life at exactly same moments that could never be changed towards his own personal wishes or feelings. He was equally accountable and responsible of what happens within their own Royal marriage not just late Queen Elizabeth. He had seem to be rebellious against what was expected of himself awhile he had always known what was expected of himself before marriage as Royal Prince himself who had chosen to married future Queen Regent who must put her Royal duties first in many incidents over her own personal wishes and wants towards her own family and privacy too. As old saying for women can be used for this incident- he needs to pull up his big adult's underwear and move forward in doing his adult responsibilities instead of being rebellious complaining child. Late Queen Elizabeth had no way to be rebellious as Queen Regent of England from young adult age. She needed love and support from her own husband instead of rebellious husband who was intentionally adding further deeper stressful issues within her own life on top of everything else she was dealing with as wife , Mum and Queen Regent that did need to come first and foremost within their lives since she was #1 leadership of Royal Firm duties and responsibilities as Queen Regent of England. He had always known she couldn't put her duties and responsibilities as Queen Regent last within their lives but he still had been rebellious despite knowing the truth that had most definitely put deeper stressful pressure onto Queen Elizabeth even moreso in unfairness and gaslighting towards herself within itself from Prince Philip.
There’s no king of England. Charles is king of the United Kingdom.
He thought he would get the same freedom Queen Victoria gave Prince Albert which wasn’t practical in postwar Europe or Britain
Albert knew his duty to his sovereign.
@@ladyvimto5546 I mean he wasn’t innocent. Albert was taught by his elders to do things such as keep Victoria pregnant so he could assume more of her duties. There’s a reason there’s a part of Canada named for him 😭 if Victoria could have made him king she would have
@@jontaedouglas7244 Which part? Alberta was named after her daughter princess Loise
@@jontaedouglas7244But anyway… Albert was smart enough to keep Victoria pleased and never loose her affection. He knows she was the most powerful person in their relationship and it could’ve be a hell (for both of them), but no, he knew his place and was his wife favorite person till the end. Phillip should’ve taken notes.
@@gabriellacardosopaiva417This. They were truly devoted to one another. And if how the country was run before his death compared to after is any indication, Albert was a very successful co-ruler. Victoria seemed to trust his judgement and may have felt relief from his assistance.
Phillip however... I couldn't see Elizabeth ever doing the same and her duties were much less overreaching than Victoria's ever were.
It amazed me that she always thought because she was when nothing bad should ever happen to her. But when people called her out on her stuff she immediately reverted back to I'm the Queen.
She was a horrible woman.
Their lives are dictated by their royal responsibilities.
@@lekis5975like you knew her 🙄
He worked hard achieved a lot before he married. You have to try to understand him. He had to walk behind her. Had to behave in a certain way. He probably just got fed up of it at one point. But he was her rock.
Early-seasons Philip annoyed me so much. If you can’t handle “coming second” and being given instructions, don’t marry a queen. They both knew she’d be queen one day, her father was already king when they married. He is correct about the “mustaches” treating him like crap, though. I don’t like them either.
Well, to be fair, had Edward not abdicated to pursue a one-sided love affair, Elizabeth wouldn't have become queen at all and she and Philip could have lived a relatively normal life.
@@fjorgyn7438Actually she would have become Queen had Edward stayed on the throne. Edward produced no heirs. Therefore she would have become Queen in 1972 after Edward’s death.
@@Btwig12713welll said
@@fjorgyn7438Edward did not abdicate, he was PUSHED. The abdication story was concocted to protect the Monarchy. The man was a nazi loving traitor who should have been made to stand for treason.
I suspect they didn't think her becoming queen would happen as quickly as it did, regardless of how ill her father was. Many of us have moments in life that happen in the blink of an eye and we're thrust into something unfamiliar. One could never be prepared to be the spouse of a monarch. Especially in the 1950s where women had roles as homemakers.
He had a pretty good life. He improve his finances by marrying Elizabeth. He had affaires . There was, there is always , a price to pay: he was just the husband of the queen.
Philip knew what he had signed up for, BUT he had not signed up for the humiliation to which he had been constantly subjected by both her family and the army of sycophants (advisors, councilors, secretaries, prime-ministers, simple courtiers) that kept the monarchy running. The problem is that she had no guts to tell these people to f. off because she was too young, uneducated (she herself acknowledges the disadvantage she's at because of her lack of formal education) and intimidated by their authority. At the same time, she had no problem acting cold and imperious towards those who loved her or cared about her anyway (Philip, Margaret, Edward VIII, Charles). Up to the very final season she fails to realise the damage that she's been doing to so many people in her family by hiding behind protocol. Royal protocol is not Moses' decalogue, it can be challenged and even changed, depending on the personality of the monarch, but she always dreaded change and, as her uncle said, she had no personality at all, she thought that by keeping her head in the sand problems would miraculously disappear. This scene is so eloquent as it reveals an un-empathetic queen incapable of understanding basic human feelings.
Well said. She was good at bending the rules to suit herself, and very good at mercilessly wielding her power over her relatives, her husband included. She listened to her mother over her husband. Phillip grew up in the real world and offered good advice but she chose to listen to her dinosaur of a mother hence why she never mordenised the monarchy, and now the whole thing is an archaic mess.
Rather she was just an uncomplicated, easy going, conscientious person. She fulfilled her duties, perhaps she knew her own limitations and did not try to create something new because of it. The fact that her family was more complex and selfish meant that most of them created their own problems, typical problems of rich people who don't know what to do with themselves. She benefited from this lifestyle because no one cares about any European monarchy anymore, but everyone knew the Queen of England. If she behaved as you say, she would become irrelevant like everyone else.
@maggielovegood1667 She wa neither uncomplicated nor easy going, she was insecure, competitive, selfish, manipulative and quite the actress hence why she was able to play the same character for years, only changing with age. She made mistakes but she was lucky the papers had a pact with the palace not to expose her. She was a terrible person that's why her children are problematic. The press exposed her children, and in doing so exposed who she really was. Her children are very entitled, who do you think taught them to be like that? She didn't have an education, so why didn't she encourage her daughter Anne to go to university? The Dutch queens made sure to attend university, and so did the Danish Queen. It was one thing for her not to go, it was quite another thing for her not to ensure Anne attended. Anne is very arrogant and backwards thinking.
@maggielovegood1667 In the end she became irrelevant, when she passed away the country barely mourned her, the Monarchy is nigh on irrelevant, nobody cares about Charles, Camilla, William or Kate. People only pretend to care about Kate because they hate Meghan, but they don't keep track of her work, then again, it's not as if she does much. The kween imposed limitations on her family because she wanted to be THE star, she didn't want a repeat of Diana. William and Kate were ironed into replicas of her, too bad no one is interested in that type of Monarch; stiff, boring, pretends to do charity work when in reality all they do is show up, shake hands, smile, cut ribbons, make inane speeches written by others. She gave them that script and it's not working any more.
@@lekis5975the country barely mourned her. Are you mad? People only like Catherine because they hate Meghan? 😂😂😂😂 wrong
As an American, I think their accents are beautiful
I don't know how much truths is the drama projecting, but again and again, it shows that people shouldn't marry too far out of their own kind! Philip was a Prince himself in his own country, but unfortunately, Greece abolished the Monarchy, therefore, Philip was just another person married into loyalty. Even with his royal background it was still hard to make it work, so imagine someone with an even more ordinary background! The irony is, snobbery doesn't always come from the actual royal members, but from their servants or staff as we call them nowadays!!
People need to realize The Crown is a TV show. You are right, snobby, sometimes comes from others.
I don't imagine it's word for word
But do believe they had lots of these types of conversation.
They both had massive roles to play .
& They both deserve a massive 👏 they did a massive service to the monarchy
That nobody before
Lets hope William & Catherine do the same .
Everyone knows Charles & lautre are juste prosidure they royal have to do .
You’re 8 year old son being the heir to the throne is wild 😂😂😂😂😂
Phillip was originally a prince of Greece and Denmark, something he had to renounce just to marry Elizabeth (so he wouldn't become king when she became queen, I think). He didn't care about his royal title anyway, his military career was his pride and passion. Then royal requirements cut his career short and royal standing was all he had left, so he wanted his princehood back. I get his reasoning.
What strikes me is the way he makes her responsible for the way other people perceive him, and makes that the condition for staying in the marriage. Talk about setting unrealistic expectations.
True. Typical childish behaviour.
Yeah and when she says it's based on his behavior he gets angry
It's typical men's behavior. They can't accept it when a woman holds more power, especially when that woman is their wife. It hurts their ego!
He actually have a good point. He is that way over something that can be changed. She did not have to send him away. They could’ve had this talk prior to that action. I think if they would’ve been more loving to each other behind closed doors, it would be no issue. If she would do more in a sense of respecting him as her husband it would’ve been better. And most important if they would’ve had talks initiated by her to explain his role, his dues and don’ts of the situation at hand, it would’ve been better. Now going off of this movie it look like she stepped out as well or was close to it. Anytime your mind start to wrap around someone else it’s always a problem. That’s why you don’t do that.
Communications are the key to a happy union ❤
When watching this, keep in the back of your mind that, in order to marry Elizabeth, Phillip was forced to abdicate multiple royal titles, right after seeing his family murdered by socialists.
he wouldn't have any royal role though as Greece had become a Republic
Not true: they were EXILED not executed.
@nakuruhike7991 The Russian royal family were EXECUTED! They used Prince Phillips DNA to identify the bodies so you are WRONG! Patricia Gambino Harrington
They used Prince Phillips DNA to identify the Russian royal families bodies so you are correct some of his family were executed! Patricia Gambino Harrington
@@irisjanemay1903They were all related to the Romanovs - including Elizabeth - through Queen Victoria. They weren’t Philip’s immediate family. He was part of the Greek royal family - though technically Danish. Victoria’s descendants got around. 😂 His grandfather was assassinated 9 years before he was born & Philip was 5th in line (meaning not at all) to a non-existent throne.
She should have married Porchy. Kids would be way better looking & better rounded.
Its said, Andrew is Porchey's, and look how well he turned out...NOT.
@ Yikes! Never heard that. Guess that’s where the Randiness comes in 😉👋
@@lekis5975 QEII is too classy to cheat and commit adultery. She is not like her sister Margaret. Andrew is Philip's son thru and thru.
@wij5368 Phillip was bald and so are his sons. Andrew? Full head of hair and he resembles his father, not Phillip.
@@lekis5975we get it. You hate the monarchy. Too bad.
I hope they also make a movie about Santa Claus and Mrs. Claus having arguments and discussions of divorce.
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ISTG Matt Smith's pissy-faced portrayal made it impossible to see how anyone, least of all, Queen Elizabeth, could suffer 60 seconds of Philip's company.
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He can't even look at her...
In many ways Prince Phillip was absolutly correct.
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They got to this point due to the late kings death. She became queen to early, he wanted his career and then in the retirement phase of Iife be the doting consort. The crown always wins. She had no choice, plus the D word in the 50s was frowned on and they were already on icey ground with the people due to the hangover of the war and she found that silly photo in his pocket like a stupid ass he was to forget it in there. As a child of a recent divorce I know the signs.
Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip talking about the power differential in their relationship is a page out of Family Systems 101. According to Dr. Paul Garcia-Reid and Dr. Roberta “Bobbie” Reid of the Montclair University New Jersey Mamalestian American Cultural Association has said that power differentials between spouses is akin to “the Balenyata Principle” which states that imbalanced power differentials often lead to a breakdown of effective dialectical communication and consequently the seizing of the system within.
Marriage is exactly what two people make of it. It’s a very slow grind, especially if it works for years. If it works, neither get what they want, because the concept of more is around. But, I wish someone would explain the last statement from Phillip, because It makes me think something concerning Charles birth, is “off”.
He wanted it and knew that his child would outrank him as the heir to the throne. He cheated on her and she turned a blind eye. He acted like a spoiled child. Not attractive
That’s what you lot always say. No one could possibly know what it would be like. If he’d walked away, they’d have crashed, so he should have been treated with a damn sight more respect. To treat a man like Phillip like this is to ask for trouble. But they’ve learned nothing, and now the defender of the faith is divorced and married to his mistress. There is not a single argument for their merit. I just hang out for the day my nation becomes a republic. A few more fossils have to drop off and we’re there.
No, he acted like a man being incessantly micromanaged by the suits . Early on nothing he did was good enough; he was tolerated as the Queen HAD to have a consort. The suits didn’t want to know he could be an asset, as they didn’t want their own influence undermined.
Elizabeth is staggeringly lacking in empathy not to see this. But she was raised to have tunnel vision.
However, this IS drama, not a documentary. I refuse to take any of it as gospel.
@@Roheryn100 You woukd be surprisedc just how much art imitates life...and life imitates art and truth is stranger than fiction.
What I didn't get was how was he not technically a Prince by birthright already? He is a great grandchild to Queen Victoria, the same as his wife. While the house of Windsor may hold the British throne, his family, despite being deposed from Greece, is no less of royal blood than hers. Would he not have had the title of King Consort upon his wife's ascension to the throne?
Kings are above Queens, therefore the husband of a reigning queen cannot hold the title of King, only Prince Consort (unless they were King in their own right, such as king of another country).
I always thought she should have chosen an older English aristocrat who understood his role as prince consort, not king. Unfortunately she was obsessed with Philip and he was not suited to his role. He wanted to be king either openly or covertly. His wife was The Crown. He was never going to get that. I also thought he wasn’t a very good father to Charles. Charles was just as insecure as his father and so totally jealous of his wife Diana. Silly, the both of them.
Well said
Also, his birth family was a mess, they scattered when he 9 years old; dad ran to Monte Carlo to live a life of sin; mom lost her mind, to get out of the gouse, hus sisters ran off to get married (including one aged 16). He didnt kniw gow to be a family man, because he had no example!
I don’t see how anyone could stand “the royal life”.
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Philip, not Phillip.
magnificent drama but i've come to learned much of this specific story is fiction. before this there are few instances where the cabinet suggests giving a title to the duke but he refuses always and shuts it down. after a long while he accepts it and its pre-determined that its announced after lisbon. there were even talks of making him the consort in the case of queen's unavailability or demise, until charles was older, but he refused that too. from what i gather it was queen who wanted to give him titles and all cause she thought they would make him happier or more comfortable but he was never after titles just after a life where his wife isn't the focal point. which is fair cause its not *exactly* what he signed up for. he thought he'd be a retired and accomplished man by the time elizabeth would be queen but that didn't happen. he was in his late 20s and going for the peak of his career when his lifestyle was forced to make a 180 turn.
Loved Prince Philip
Prince Philip abdicated his titles as Prince of Greece and Denmark for a woman of England......just England who has degraded him and worse excluded his own name not to be included to his own children. It took a parliamentary hearing to approve it. Oh Prince Philip always be known as Duke of Edinburgh. What a degraded man. After Prince Edward received his father's title Duke of Edinburgh it is said it will be removed from the Royal Ranks. Prince Philip was right he was treated like a foreigner simply because his sisters married Nazi's.
The whole world will not weep for him. 🙄 They actually have real troubles & real jobs. Seriously.
Simply? 😂 Seems legit to me. Let's also acknowledge he was a gold digger. His uncle put him in front of a young impressionable Princess Elizabeth, so his couch surfing nephew had a chance of catching her eye. What better way to get him settled than marrying the princess.
He was also a racist so it wasn't like he was that far off his sister
God, he's such a whiny baby. He lives a life of enormous wealth, prestige, grandeur, and he can't shut up about the fact that someone else ranks above him. He KNEW THIS going in. It wasn't a surprise...
I think that her marrying that young has quite a lot of simmilarities with princess Di. Both married or got to know their spouses, lot older than them really young. Both of them were man with ambitions who were denied their spotlight. While prince Charles is mostly her creation I think that prince Philip had an agenda of his own. Had the divorce taken place god knows what would have happened.
Every spouse had issues with the Firm. Why can't or why didn't the family notice that with Prince Harry's wife?
Because Megan is a horrible person. She wanted to do things her way. That is not how the royal family works. When Megan didn't get her own way. What did she do? Go on Oprah and lie. Called everyone a racist. Princess Catherine is doing a great job. There is something wrong with Harry. Not even his past girlfriends tolerated his behavior for long becausethey broke up with him.
The firm loves tearing into the married-ins. Meghn was smart enough to walk away.
Claire Foy was fabulous as the Queen
"Exit route opened to anyone else"
She remembers it was technically her ancestor that made the hole country protestant JUST so he could get away with divorcing his wife?
There's no way I could handle being married into a royal family. Talk about having no life of your own. I'd lose my mind!
I would never marry into that family. Everybody seemed miserable. You can’t show your emotions you gotta be a robot. You gotta listen to people complain about you moping and whining like omg no 😂😂 It’s like you trap yourself into being unhappy for the rest of your life.
You only see what the newspapers print. We don't know how their personal life is in private. You can't take Harry and Megan's word for what happens behind closed doors. At this point, they are known as proven liars.
Do men of the 1950s really have such fragile egoes?
Men also have fragile egos now
Don’t be naive. Men have always had fragile egos.
Not much has changed apparently 🙄.
So ignorant your comment seem men always had ego
Now women too have
An imaginary conversation, yet so many swallow it as if it is entirely true.
The Crown is an interpretation. It isn't necessarily what actually happened !
So true. Have a blessed day.
People forget that helps married her as a princess, not a queen at first.
May be was different in real life also
Why is this series filmed so dark??
@@francespulone292 dark time
Cause the UK is cold, dark and rainy.
The best queen
She was too too patient. The UK owes her so so much.
I think, if he would have had the posibility to educate his son's as a normal father, they would have had the chsance to develop to normal people, who knew about love and about their limits.
He married the most important woman on earth and thought he would still be the head of the household. He then stepped out on her breaking his wedding vows, and then proceeded to sulk like a child when he didn’t get his way.
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Well, in my opinion, it’s hard for a spouse to give up everything, but he knew what he was getting himself into, and I guess love is blind, and there was a previous episode of the crown, where I forget what his name is the tall guy that has the mustache I think he was playing the queen from the start because he’s the one that pressured her trying like to control her so the family would go and live not where they supposed to have lived or they were doing all that remodeling to go live in Buckingham Palace, so there was in my opinion some control there by parliament to control her and her actions but I do see it in Phillipses point of you he thought he was going to live there and be able to be the man of the house and he was not in that made him very pissed
The reason why the Great Britain is no longer great is that the Heads of the States of the US, China or Russia do not spend significant amount of time in discussing these kinds of petty matters. They invest time and money in serious matters like oil, microchips and capital ventures which the Great Britain could also have thought about but they didn't.
I think you haven't watched the whole show. They do discuss government issues as well..
You do realize this is dramatized fiction….. the British monarchy has been less and less involved in actual governance since the Hanovers took over, that’s what happens when you have a foreign ruler come in. What the British monarchy chooses to discuss over tea has no bearing on actual government policy.
The remarkable personal sacrifices for the crown. Only the Brits have that.
Philip honestly had to put up with way too much from the Queen. She was wrong.
Foy and .. vs Smith. Dynamic.
He had many affairs. One very close relationship lasted 30 years. He was bored with the Queen cause she was not well educated. He loved deep chats they never had that.
And your sources are?
He was jealous of the Queen. Duty came first.
The Queen had the finest education. Philip was formerly homeless, the son of an unstable mother and brother to Nazi sisters. He got the better deal.
To ask me to continue in a marriage I do not want because of tradition and protocol is a big maybe; to ask me to remain in it and be faithful is a definite no way.
Porchy would have been the best husband.
Phillip really wasnt much chop!!
On the contrary, he stepped up to the plate quite admirably, and it is telling that the queen died less than 18 months after him.
Talk about living in a gilded cage. Despite all the privilege and wealth, they lived in a prison.
i never understood why these royals whine so much. if you dont like it, leave, really quite simple
If you'd watched the clip, you would have heard Elizabeth explain why leaving _isn't_ an option for either of them.
This is a fictional series Jerry, hope that helps xx
You clearly don't understand the royals period or their roles. You couldn't just leave back then. Perhaps educate yourself on how the royal family worked and not go by a Netflix series.
Do you ever retain information or is it always brand new to you?
Harry left and look what happened to him. Princess Margaret wanted to marry Peter, but had no longer be a royal anymore.
No,,, no me gusta nade este commentario,,,, quiero ver el video original del capitulo ,,,
She is lit nicely from the side. His face lies in shadow.
This is fiction 😂
He was a spoiled little brat and didnt hold a candle to her. Shouldve realized that and married someone else.
It’s a DRAMA! 🤦♀️🙄
Funny, Philip goes directly to money, "how much"? I didn't like him. I think he was a mastermind to protect the Monarchy at all cost; money or life, no difference!
I love what Elizabeth is wearing, but I think she is emasculating Philip a bit here, no wonder he acts how he does.
'The Crown' is full of bull. You have to be an idiot to believe the stuff they claim on that show. Shame on you, if you do.
Philip needed to get a job and a personality.
This is what adults do when their marriage is not working… they talk about it, they negotiate “how to make it bearable “ and they try .
They don’t ask their wife to be nice with the mistress!
He did ask her to be nice to the mistress, thats why she was photographed with her. She was the only outsider to attend his funeral too. Their son learnt that nonsense from his papa.
Jealous of a child, his child. That is why the "mustaches" didn't respect him. That behavior is wholly undeserving of respect.
She didn't need a husband, he really needed a wife?
He was just desperate to stay a royal. She should have left him a disgraced greek ex royal and married better
He was an arsehole. Did not have a proper family, not even a pot to pis in. Everything he was came to him from her.
He was broke & ousted from his country & status when they met. He had nothing. He saw a good thing. From nothing to the world! Whiney, pouting little boy. Sounds a bit like Charles.
He was a man ,husband and father all man need that respect
He was the husband to THE Queen. Respect is earned, not given and you surely don't get it by cheating on your wife.
He had respect. Being married to the Queen and father to the future king gave him automatic respect.
Everyone needs respect as earned
As a man, I will not be disrespected. The sooner you learn that the better for you…
Phillip was a whiney little crap don't like him ..why would she marry him..he acts goofy
Well, he was just a pompous, self-centered pathetic, narcissistic, toad. She is the queen she’s lovely. She’s sweet. How hard is it to be married to someone like that?
It’s because his ego and self inflated sense of importance was bruised , because he was a pathetic child.
The kween was a nasty piece of work adept at wearing a mask in public, consumate actress. Why do you think her children are so ill mannered and everyone who marries has a hard time?
Why would she want a tainted name like his ..whiney little Philip no one pays attention to me lol
Phillip was a gold digger!!