The Controversial Rise of Wrexham AFC
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The Controversial Rise of Wrexham AFC
The Controversial Rise of Wrexham AFC
The Controversial Rise of Wrexham AFC
I actually quite like Wrexham it's nice to see owners who actually care and are heavily involved in a club
It’s makes a nice change for once haha
We need that more in football.
Right …what’s controversial. A rich owner buys a low league club and doesn’t ruin it lol
well there is leicester but theyre struggling right now
well Chelsea and Manchester City get attacked for the same reason.
There’s nothing controversial about it. Ryan and Rob are what every club owner should be. They genuinely care about the town/people/culture/language etc, not just the club.
Still cringe from the media. On a par with the Liverpool love in they have..Great for their fans of course but for many efl/non league footy fans it's cringey as hell.
@@lthang2477 Its cringe but Ryan and Rob are marketing experts and know that its beneficial for the club, and I can respect them compared to many other owners, like Rob learned welsh, they go to games, they became true football fans, so I still agree the underdog stuff is stupid, I got complete respect for them
@Breandan Hamon yeah 100% it's more the media I find unbearable than the actual owners. If I was a wrexham fan I would be buzzing fair play to them and the owners who are doing things the right way. Always said wrexham are a league 1/championship club fanbase wise.
I totally agree, there is zero controversy, and they respect and seem to love this team. I hope they make a ton of money and Wrexham thrives because of it, not just the club but the town.
They just care about the money. Invest money to make more money. They will flip the club to some exotic investor in a couple of years, just like Reynolds did with Aviation Gin and Mint Mobile.
Wrexham's owners have a good social conscience and who knows, maybe it'll become fashionable to run clubs in a financially stable way and boost up the community as opposed to just being in it for greed and to sack the head coach every 5 minutes.
Having said that, Luton truly are the real underdog story in English football and maybe even beyond. Their fans truly deserve the journey they're on given all the madness they been through not so long ago.
Go Hatters!!!
If they had a hood conscious, they’d drop TikTok as a sponsor
I’ll be doing a video on Luton very soon, an extraordinary story!
Ha
The hatters aren't to be slept on, theyve been killing it for a while now
As a Welshman living only about 50 minutes from Wrexham its refreshing to have a Welsh team being invested in by someone like Ryan Reynolds. I for one look forward to seeing Wrexham in the Football League next year. Good luck to them. Additionally its also rekindled my interest in football. Also Ryan Reynolds is actually Canadian
The investment was start by Rob, and it’s sad the press goes to Deadpool first…without Rob, Ryan would never have thought of doing this…
Ryan is American-Canadian, or Canadian-American, whatever you want to call it. He is a US citizen and lives in the US. His wife is American, his kids grew up in America.
Ryan had dual citizenship. So he’s Canadian and American
@@MikeGowan-xo9yv
He’s much more famous than Rob. Unless you’re a Sunny fan, you probably have no idea who he is. So it’s only natural that Ryan gets the most press.
@@roems6396 …I know he is, but he went to Ryan and asked if he wanted to be a part of it. It was Robs idea, that’s all I’m saying. Don’t forget Rob…lol
I am so proud of my son and a number of other young men who set up the Supporters Trust about 11 years ago. That saved Wrexham FC and got the community involved in a positive way.
I went to art college in Wrexham in 1993 .I used to promote the Saturday night within the stadium called "The Cotton club"so The club has a place in my heart
I think it’s a good thing and has created more interest in non league. I was looking forward to the game on Monday for weeks and it didn’t disappoint. Can’t remember when I’ve been so buzzed for a game that involves two teams I don’t support. I can see why some maybe annoyed as they have wealthy backers, but it’s no different from football across the globe.
Its hypocritical for any fan to be annoyed since they all would bite your hand off for investment
I can only imagine that’s the most watched Non League game ever
but when Wrexham are out the national league who will watch anymore?
@@emmablackburn7068 yeah, I’m sure a lot of the interest will disappear. BT sport show a lot of National League games, so hopefully they continue to do so and eyes are kept on Non League in years to come.
@@palerider7353 yeah i dont mind BT for that and its nice when we've gone an away game thats 3 years away. it just confuses me when ppl try to say we should be grateful for the attention, the attention is on wrexham > the league itself
as someone who’s lived in Wrexham for 6 years, and actively supported the club before rob and ryan bought it, i love how involved they are in the community. every time they visit they go to the bar by the racecourse (the wrexham stadium) and buy a round for everyone. i’ve met rob and he’s a lovely guy, and i fully support them buying out the club and love what they’ve done for it.
it's nice to hear positive stories from locals, because it's their opinion that matters most ☻
there is no football anymore in your country :D :D: D: D
@@timopint1125
How so?
That’s pretty cool man
@@timopint1125 yes there is i play it everyday
There isn’t actually any controversy. Its nice seeing owners actually care and will invest. Every team down there needs investment
I don't think it's healthy that what is meant to be a semi-professional league has to rely on the good graces of a liberally-spending owner.
@@TheRadPlayer Did you see the state of the club before them? No club should be ran like that
@@TheRadPlayer 21 of the 24 teams in the Vanarama National League this year are fully professional.
@@TheRadPlayer So you would them to go into receivership, and down a couple of leagues, because after covid, that's where they were heading.
It is a bad thing for many other clubs
Ryan Reynolds is Canadian, people love him here and because of that I see people walking around in downtown Vancouver British Columbia Canada with Wrexham jerseys, hats and hoodies. It's crazy and awesome at the same time.
Speaking as Australian, I had never heard directly of Wrexham, and with your new owners in Rob and Ryan, Wrexham has now reached an international fan-base in myself and no doubt many others. Am I here because of Deadpool? No! but I am here because of what they have done and their story. If the club was on the brink after 160 years of disappearing, and have an injection of money to assist them, then by all means continue doing what you are doing. It is only helping the town in employment, living conditions, etc. Hell, I want to now go to Wales and watch a game. Its a business and they need bums on seats! In 17/18 season they average 4000 fans, today they are close to average of 10,000. Now in 17/18 that would be about £200,000 today the club alone has taken in the 22/23 season over £500,000.
What will happen to the players should they go up? I would assume like anything, they should continue to hone their skills, but should they not be able to perform, there will be more money to now be able to fund better players.
Congratulations to Wrexham and your fans ... now google to buy a jersey
For me, this is the real life FIFA video game dream. Taking a 4th division club, injecting a little money, upgrading facility, buying better players, finding youth players, promotion after promotion. Its the best story in football because itd what we've always wanted to see. Imagine if they get promoted this year and again next year. It'll be absolutely incredible. If they make it to the Prem within 5 years itll be on par with Leicester prem win in terms of story.
a bit more then a little money. i see how its a fairytale, but its unfair, like a lower league oil club. its like how city got a fat injection of money to become the domination champions. its unfair to other teams.
@@HarryColby No, it's not. Other clubs have the option ti inject cash into the club. Especially at Non league level, but they don't. Wrexham haven't belonged in national league at all and have always been much bigger. The owners have spent money wisely, not just thrown it about the way PSG or Madrid have.
@@willmay9385 they bought the player of the year from the second division, a bunch of second division players and a first division player. That sounds very fair for other clubs who can barely afford to not liquify
@@willmay9385 also wouldn't say wisely, buying players in the leagues above you if you can is pretty explanatory. Madrid and psg can't do that, because they're in the top league.
@@HarryColbywhat would fair look like?
Whether intentional or not the guys found a working class football club and revitalised an entire community by giving them a team to be proud of, it's hard for me to not get emotional seeing their fans having a good time because there is now a buzz around that city that Ryan and Rob have bought into. I'd kill for some well intentioned moneyman to make Hibs a viable title contender
Scottish football needs that
These Guys are assiduous in everything they do,make no mistake.
It was absolutely intentional, Rob has said many times he wanted an community that reminded him of the working class people from Philly that he grew up around
and the moment a rich asshole comes in for the club for 2 billion dollars, the same Deadpool you're praising today will sell your club at the drop of a hat as he did with the telecom company he invested in.
It's an interesting argument to make as a whole but for me, the Notts County/Wrexham game getting the attention it got is something almost unimaginable 2 years ago. There's definitely a stigma of "rich, American owners" in English football (for good reason) but I do think Rob & Ryan are in it for the long haul and hopefully the Wrexham model is something that any potential buyers out there for lower league clubs can use as a model of success in order to see more stories like this one.
Also, kudos to Ryan specifically for calling out a need to get the lower leagues streamed as well, as a means to help improve fandom for all of the teams involved within it and generate that extra income as well.
The good thing is that Rob and Ryan are letting established football experts do their jobs. Far too many times have sports owners come in thinking they’re qualified to do everything. Just look at that one owner Chesterfield FC had who thought he was a footballing genius and micromanaged everything.
@@hottakewithoutthehottake2231 Mike Piazza with AC Reggiana a few years ago is a cautionary tale to exactly what you mentioned, yeah
@@BrasilianFury LMAO I never knew one of my favourite NY Mets players of all time bought a football team
@@hottakewithoutthehottake2231 The Atlantic did a whole story on it a few years ago that I believe is free to read, 100% recommended on just how chaotic of a stint it was
fwiw Ryan Reynolds is Canadian.
How can people say that we ignore Notts and the other teams because of Wrexham? Before they took over, I had no idea that Notts County was even a team, let alone their history and also, even Ryan acknowledged their great season, we all do and hope to see them promoted.
The doc took extra time to acknowledge some of the best teams and players in their respective leagues. It did well this year. And now I know Notts County too!
If you didn’t know who Notts County were before the documentary then you obviously knew nothing about football before the documentary!
@@magpiej536 Aint that deep buddy
As an American I have never followed English football, I started watching the Wrexham documentary last year and I am now an avid fan of English football what a wonderful story, I am happy for Wrexham and their fans and I hope the other teams in the national league get their storybook ending as well, what this whole Wrexham thing has done is brought thousands and thousands of more fans to English football with a better understanding of how it works, I think this is a win win for all.
Agreed.😊 English Premier league is one of the more balanced leagues out there.
Wrexham is not English
@@reknakfarg7252 They play in 'English' football, so to follow Wrexham is to follow English football. In the same way the following Berwick would be following Scottish football even though they're English.
@@thatindiandude4602it’s not the premier league though is it
@@RW-nr6bhTry to follow the womens team then too.
We once had bad owners, faced administration and points deductions, relegation, followed by another relegation. I spent days collecting money in buckets to keep us alive as a club.
Once watching us play Sheffield Wednesday, Bristol City, and Huddersfield, to watching us play Histon, Bath, Salisbury.
We, the fans, have earned this.
Yma o hyd🔴⚪️
Ry ni yma o hyd
This is it entirely. Other fans are jealous that it's not happening to them. Enjoy the ride Robert, it's going to be fun!
The moment you start getting so many critiques you know you're going in the right direction. You absolutely deserve this. Best of luck for the rest of the season.. been following your matches closely since the last year playoff defeat to Grimsby..
@@rhydiandavies4330 Don't type when drunk
@@TheRadPlayerDon't type when you have no clue what the hell is even that. Yma o hyd is a Welsh folk song, and that is not a drunk typing, just search the lyrics up.
We are still here.
I think the takeover of Wrexham brings attention to non league and allows clubs to be potentially bought over. Yes it might mean it is harder to get promoted however I think Wrexham is allowed to have a bit of fortune because of how much crap they've had to endure for 15+ years
I can see more teams in non league being bought in years to come!
@Vizeh will happen for sure, whether it will be on the same scale as Wrexham I'm not sure but I don't see why investors wouldn't be interested considering how cheap it will be to get into football at that level. It obviously requires investment but like Notts County you don't need a lot to compete
well said mate
@@jordanrenton2495 Notts still have a much bigger budget than other National League teams not named Wrexham.
@Lupin788 true and I don't disagree but they have previously been an EFL league team so that is to be expected whereas Wrexham has had money come from the owners. Once Wrexham are promoted we probably will see a more competitive league next season.
I feel for County, hopefully they go up through the playoffs. Interestingly in 2012 Wrexham finished 2nd with 98 points to Fleetwood who had some dude named Jamie Vardy…. No idea what happened to him.
Wrexham shouldn’t be regarded as underdogs on the pitch (not at least until they reach higher leagues), but what I like about the documentary (being from North Wales myself) is that they make it clear it’s a town of Underdogs so to speak
Too big to be a town, too small to be a city (until 2022 anyway). A mining community that was left behind with the closures but still has the scars to this day (google Gresford disaster- the victims bodies are still in there). The ancestral home of Welsh football but who had to save them at the last hour? FAW? Nope. The fans. Too Welsh for Westminister to give a shit, too far North for the Senedd to give a shit either. Those are your underdogs.
Rob & Ryan clearly did a lot of research before buying and knew the story of the people would be what sells, something you don’t get in American sports where there’s only 30 teams per sport, all owned by billionaires and they threaten to move to a different city if the local government won’t pay to replace their 20 year old stadium with tax payer money. They are the example of what owners should be, embraced the club and the fans, the history and even the language. They easily could have got some cheap laughs about the Welsh Language but didn’t
You are exactly right. The community's unfailing spirit in the face of decades of adversity and obscurity, and the cynical mismanagement they clubbed together to overthrow just to survive, make the town and the team the underdogs, and if Wrexham sell more merch than Man U in the USA, why shouldn't they buy better players? Doesn't every Premier League team do exactly that? What makes some shady conglomerate of oil-rich Arabs' money clean, but a Movie stars investment cheating?
Fck the haters. Wrexham, you deserve this!
@@emdiar6588 Thats why the documentary is popular, it's a human interest story with the drama of sports tied in. If they'd produced a 'season review' using only match day footage nobody outside of Wrexham's fans would care.
My favourite episode was the explanation of hooliganism, some of the social/economic factors that motivate it etc. Especially the bit with the young couple, he was banned from games for a year and she was a police officer, he couldn't attend games yet was still paying for a season ticket and she just couldn't understand his obsession.
You could try this with clubs higher up the pyramid that are from deprived areas (northern towns like Bradford, Burnley, Hull) but I think a lot of the appeal is because its non league. Its more understandable why they would turn up every week come rain or shine in the championship/league 1. The best American comparison would be what? Single A baseball? But that lacks the appeal that they could ever really move up the the 'big time'. They don't have a chance of playing the Yankees in the 'Baseball Cup' like Wrexham do in the FA Cup.
I think most people dislike the oil-rich arab state ownership which is why they compare it to Wrexham. Never really got the comparison myself since as far as I'm aware neither Rob nor Ryan has committed human rights violations or been condemned by Amnesty International. The spending-to-win aspect is sort of true but the National League is a complete rat race, only 2 teams going up (1 automatic) means the margins are so so fine that every club wishes they had a boost. Wrexham were the ones that got that boost.
@@KC1996LFC Thanks for that! I just spat my tea. When Amnesty International find out about the sweatshop they've set up in the Turf's cellar, they are for it!
Those kits aren't going to make themselves, right?
@@KC1996LFC Oil-rich arab state money, Russian Oligarch money, etc, is all dirty money and/or blood money. Rob & Ryan bring something different, there's no uncomfortable truth lurking or bitter taste in the mouth. Most importantly, we've got the legendary Ifor Williams Trailers!!
Of course R & R knew exactly what they were doing when they bought Wrexham. They had a solid business plan and everything was costed. The documentary is not entirely honest - they emphasise the losses and their own naivety, getting the brilliant Maxine Hughes to take the mick - but that makes for a superb show. This humble approach has won them a vast following and is bringing in a fair wad of cash from multiple angles.
The Notts Co. game was one of the greatest games ever. There could not have been more drama or a more exciting ending if it had been written as a movie script. I hope Wrexham and Notts go up together.
Wrecsam Am Byth!!!!! 🤩🥰⚽
@@emdiar6588 I would love for another Hollywood celeb pairing/group to buy another club and start a rivalry with Wrexham. Ryan Gosling + Danny DeVito to buy Southend? Yes please. Or better yet Channing Tatum, Bradley Cooper and Glenn Howerton could buy North Wales’ other, smaller and less successful club, Chester and make a documentary for Amazon Prime. Now that’s how you get a rivalry going.
However much Rob and Ryan have spent 1. They’ve probably made it back due to growth of the asset + exposure for themselves & their other businesses. 2. It’s reported at about ~5M each. For two already rich celebrities what else could you buy that would give you the excitement and rollercoaster of raw emotions they’ve experienced already? Another yacht? A newer Bugatti? A 4th house? Nothing would give them the rush they felt watching Foster save that penalty or the rollercoaster of ups and downs vs Sheffield United in the cup or the pain of losing promotion last year.
I was sceptical when Rob and Ryan purchased the club but given their personal investment of both the men and women clubs are showing how much they care about the club and are investing into the community... I am glad for the success of Wrexham with owners that actually care and demonstrate that by being there when the firs season in charge didn't work out but this season is looking so well... fingers crossed for them getting up
This is my home team... It's the stuff of dreams and anyone who wouldn't want this for their club is lying
Man ppl are just jealous. If this happens to the club that they support those ppl are gonna be cheering and happy as well
Exactly, nice to see owners do good for a change
for most national league fans, I think most ppl are happy for wrexham! we just don’t rlly want our football league to be americanised, imo it’s just not the same. It doesn’t rlly matter though, cos that attention will follow Wrexham into league 2 and it will all go back to normal
@@emmablackburn7068 American owners get a bad reputation in Britain for caring only about business and having no passion for football as a sport so it’s nice to see an American and Canadian who actually do seem to care personally about the clubs success
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 completely agree! most ppl i know including me rlly like the whole community side of it and how the owners have brought everyone together
Another banger vid man. Clubs like Wrexham are victim to years and years of being crushed by the weight of the football pyramid and the money it holds. I'm happy to see these historic clubs get a true revival and the love is reciprocated back to the fans but clubs being bought out in the top tier raises some eyebrows for sure
Nothing controversial at all. They have owners that care, they’ve invested their own money into the club, but have also immersed themselves into the community. As a Swans fan, I’d love to have owners like wrexhams. Good luck Robins.
I like it all! Rob and Ryan did great research and picked a great team/city/situation…that in itself is impressive. They picked something that would have several years of good TV ahead as they knew they could bring it up a league or two. That alone was good thinking. Then the whole story of Wrexham was great and worthy of watching. Now it gets harder but a lot of us are along for the ride at least for a few years.
I’ve been loving the documentary videos lately, they’ve been really well made and overall really good
Facts deff one my fav people to listen to for football facts he’s just a relaxing good guy !
I used to watch the occasional Vizeh video back in the FIFA days, nowadays the channel is a must watch. Really stepping it up recently great to see 👏
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I’ve always had a soft spot for Wrexham. Being one of The UK’s oldest clubs, it’s sad to see how they’ve been mismanaged over the years so I’m fine seeing them possibly rise up the leagues in the coming seasons. It’s so rare now to see owners that are so invested in their club and have a genuine passion for the players and staff and not just the money coming in the door. Ryan Reynolds’ chat with Ben Foster after the Notts County match is all anyone needs to see. Regardless of how the media may try to spin Wrexham into a current underdog and annoy other NL fans, Ryan and Rob are class as owners and have brought a ton of attention to non-league football and given it a much larger audience
It's just nice to see someone different from a neutral prospective, and I do fancy having a 4th Welsh club in the league as well being part Welsh myself 🏴
Not only that, they did not forget the previous sponsors of the team Ifor Williams Trailers, for all your horsing needs, giving them a huge 60 second shout out on the 2nd episode as thanks for their past support on the Disney documentary as they would not be able to compete obviously with the the likes of TikTok and Expedia, I thought that was a nice touch :)
Most would drop them in an instant, but shouting them out to millions around the world was a masterclass in why they are superstars.
@@philastley8040They kept on so many local businesses, I thought it was both hilarious and a great show of respect for local businesses.
I love this story. Owners chose a deserving historic club who were repeatedly regulated to revitalize. It is most definitely an underdog story because you have to look at where they started and how badly they were previously managed. The infusion of money is certainly part of that story, but it’s equally important to spend that investment wisely. Money alone won’t buy you a championship (but it certainly helps).
No sports fan anywhere in the world has ever complained when owners are willing to dip into their own pocketbook because they believe in what they are doing. Too often it’s the opposite where owners care very little about fans except for how they affect their bottom line. To have a pair of owners willing to make such a commitment and to leverage their own celebrity to give the club as big as boost as possible is truly amazing and remarkable. It does not take away from the underdog story, IT IS THE UNDERDOG STORY.
Well done!! I watched the mini series "Welcome to Wrexham" because of Ryan and Rob. I became a supporter of the team because of the people of Wrexham. They're down to earth working class people as I am. Go Red Devils!!!
I don't see what would the problem be here. I root for Leeds but Wrexham has become my second team to root for. The entire story is fascinating and the best is yet to come!
I am a brand new subscriber from Chicago. I was initially intrigued by the Welcome to Wrexham story, and I'm now following teams in several different strata of English football as well as listen to multiple podcasts. I think the purchase of Wrexham was a brilliant stroke. And I think the success of this venture is due in great measure to the marketing skill of Ryan Reynolds.
I recommend following Hashtag United as well great story.
That’s fantastic, great way that you’ve got into English football due to this!
they lost 3 million quid...football isn't a profit making venture , so that's even more cred to ryan and rob
@@mikedown1250 the documentary did very well though. The figure I saw was that it earned about £3 million for the club.
I'm in Chicago too. What teams are you now following?
This can potentially be a game changer and open the door for other “not traditionalist” football owners. They can maybe see football clubs as more of a passion project, rather then a investment, and actually look after the club and be fully involved
Ryan Reynolds is not American. He's Canadian, google is free
What's the difference?
As someone who was born and bred in Wrexham it's amazing what's happening in the town.
I was against Wrexam, I thought they were an national league Man City, and to an extent they are, but I have changed my mind on them. They are a very important club to the local community, and definitely deserve to be in the EFL on fans and community work alone, so having richer owners is fine with me. A football club is more than just on the pitch, and Wrexam is a very important club to succeed for a lot of locals. Plus it is undeniable that Ryan actually cares about the club and is running it sensibly, so already better than the Glazers and Boehly
That’s great to see that over time you’ve come to like Wrexham and their story, thanks for your comment Dustin
Ryan and Rob, too.
I think Boely cares, he just dropped a shit ton of money into Chelsea. Owners who don't care don't back 300 million pound spending sprees. The question is more of if he knows what he is doing. IMO he should have waited til he found a manager he believed in who brought the club success on the pitch with the team they had, then back that manager with the big money.
@@Valpo2004 He absolutely cares, I was alluding to the ‘running the club sensibly’ part. He is over ambitious, and is spending way too much money for no reason. Potter works well with a tight budget and low recruitment expectations, he likes to wait a year or two to scout out the right talent for the right price. Give him infinite money, he’ll inevitably jump the gun and make poor decisions. As an owner, you have to have some level of reservation about football to succeed imo. Man Citys owner, for as much as they spend, gives Pep a very concrete budget and is very communicative with the manager. Look at the striker situation, they had the money to go for Kane, Tottenham refused, they instead bought Grealish with the plan of getting Haaland in a year. Both those signings have proved fantastic. Boehlly would have gotten Jonjo Shelvey for £150 million if Messi rejected them, theres no plan just ‘hes quite good’
Love what’s happening to Wrexham. Great media coverage for the lower leagues. This seasons frustration for the national league will be worth the benifits in the future.
I am 50/50 about Wrexham. In one way I am happy that the national league has been getting good media coverage and the recognition it deserves. But also it has made it feel like no other teams have a chance.
It's a fair way to see it, it is a very good team for the level but the eyes it brings to non league can only be good imo
Are you also 50/50 on Notts who have also hit over 100 points and have a much higher wage bill than the rest of the league?
WHats wrong with being so much betetr than your opponents? lmao
@@aleksandergolembka8659 the only problem is when it is because of unsustainable spending, which I'm not sure...for wrexham I could certainly see it being sustainable at least for the foreseeable future.
My local club had a guy come in and spend a boat load, we won conference north with over 100 points and then lost in the playoffs the next year... crazy jump up and if he had of sustained our early form we were on course for automatic promotion. But the guy ran out of money, now we are lower than we have ever been and stuck there for the last 10-15 years.
Fortunately, promotion is a thing...
Its a great story not just because of the football and the Hollywood connection but how they are helping to regenerate the town that had fallen on hard times. These two celebrity owners have done something that no useless idiot politician could do and with a lot less money as well. The town is buzzing it seems and it has brought everyone together. Well done Rob & Ryan.
My gran was Welsh from Swansea. She grew up in London and later moved to Canada, but always had a strong connection with her Welsh heritage. Seeing this town be lifted up through the reverberations of the owners' actions has been heartwarming and inspiring and is by far the best draw of the show. It's not the football or the Hollywood, it's the people. Go Red Dragons!
Any owner with a decently sized bank account could do that though.
They may be old but they've achieved fuck all in their History and have been raised as some sort of Titans of Wales, while Cardiff, Swansea and Newport get no recognition for our achievements.
I respect that they've rejuvenated the area but past that I don't understand the band wagon mentality all of a sudden?
Seattle sounders fc supporter here, I'm also now a wrexham supporter. Because of the show a whole new generation of Canadians and Americans are now seeing the beauty of football for the first time, so over here football fans are thrilled
the fact that Rob is learning Welsh says he is in this for the long haul, if they show the passion its their money to do whatever they like, also at 4:42 a random appearance by Keith Hill xD Rochdale legend
I’m Canadian and never got into this sport but my boy did for few years but now I’m catching myself searching and learning this procedure and the excitement of the fans and town from documentaries and not going to lie that making me a fan! Keep up good work to every team and everyone who’s supported this decades before me being 1 month in!!
I’m American and a huge soccer fan. I watch the premier league every weekend but never really watched or followed the lower leagues. But now Wrexham has got me into watching lower league games. I think the exposer Wrexham has brought has shown people that lower league soccer is awesome.
It's football,if u are a fan learn tge name of the sport properly
@@tifts9719 If you're a human learn how to spell properly. Also, depending on where you are, it's called by a different name. Some countries call it futbol, soccer, or football. Kind of self-centered you demand everyone to call it the way you do. Plus, the Britts are the ones that coined the term soccer.
@I identify as a velociraptor you can call it whatever you like mate. Glad to see you watching the game and supporting its growth in your area.
It is ... I watched Wrexham's game where they got promoted last week. It was gripping from start to finish ... but that Mullins - my God! His goals were world class!
I love how humble all the players are at this level and how close the fans can get to them. It's refreshing to see players playing for the passion of the game and not necessarily just a pay cheque!
The supporters raising the money to keep the club alive, is honestly the best part of this story for me! To go from that - to where they are right now - THAT is a story worthy of Hollywoood!
i don't like that hollywood are telling this story and not the people of Wrecsam or Cymru
I am American and don’t have the deepest understanding of the English football system and history, but have played and been a fan of the sport since I was 4. I think the series showed how competitive the non-league actually is and highlighted the system in a way that would get more people interested. I’ve always watched any game I find but have never followed anyone other than my women’s national team, but learning more about it makes English football more interesting to me. I’m also excited to see the next season of the doc bc I believe they’re highlighting the women’s team more and drawing attention to that sector. I understand the distrust and people that have concerns, but I think I’m the end it’s an overall good as long as they don’t change their intentions once the documentary ends.
GO WREXHAM!!
I see a club with owners who truly care and want the very best for their club and the community connected to their club, so no I see no wrong in this I actually think it’s fantastic what they are doing at Wrexham taking the oldest Welsh football clubs in the world, a club that’s been underachieving for so long is truly amazing to me. Well done Wrexham 👏👑
Got attracted to the story by knowing the owners, since they are huge public figures. But got to admit the series is very well produced, and the story telling showing the people and the community makes you a fan. End up loving the club not for Rob and Ryan, but for the small community that has struggled for years with the club they passionate have loved for decades, and being on the verge of disappearing.
As you said, it's nice to see owners that are committed and engaged and want to do things right, and you can also see their transformation along the road. They moved from soccer to football 🤣and when you hear them talk in the interviews, they appear genuine (let's be honest.. they are not great actors, so don't think it would be fake 😛).
I'm not only looking forward to the club success story, but also seeing how the community has changed with those results.
Nice video btw, new sub from now on!
As a long suffering Wrexham fan going all the way back to 2022, I LOVE the way Rob and Ryan are running the team.
@Dragon Of The West He's a non-believer of the Wxm story, taking the Michael 😉
As a Texan who only became interested in soccer because of the run up to the World Cup, this story was entertaining to me. We typically aren’t as knowledgeable about the sport and traditions tied to it here in the States so, it is a great way to bring someone like me into the world of English football. All the Americans involved with Leeds did a similar thing. It’s a hook and now I am slowly becoming more educated. Bandwagoning Wrexham is a joke for the experienced fan but for me, that’s where the easy to access and digestible info is until I become a more sophisticated fan. When that happens, I too will then hate gimmicks and throwing money and resources at one team only and pretending it’s a miraculous, unforeseen turnaround.
By the way, great video
It's not like billionaires buying a club like toy, or a status bragging jewel >>Like the oil clubs...There is a big difference, look at City under the spotlight with an insane spend and basically corruption...Then look at Liverpool with wealthy owners who built the club up, looking more at keeping the core of what a club is about....Wrexham have to be given the nod, they have the supporter base, history, owners trying to keep the supporters central to the journey, with owners that genuinely are for the people....All the best to them..
I think the real issue isn’t two people buying a club to create a story whilst helping a community in dire need and building a historic team back up to their level, but the FA for not supporting the teams who are further down the pyramid just because their games aren’t as monetisable as the higher leagues. Non-league and lower are as essential to the pyramid as any other and we’ve seen too many great clubs with history fall under recently. But notts county fully deserve their props and this season is proof that 2 teams need to be promoted automatically from NL to L3, its a travesty that a team with 100+ points isn’t assured promotion 💀
Imagine if just 0.2% of that huge PL tv deal went to the 5th and 6th tiers, that's like 100.000 pounds per season to each club.
@@TheRadPlayer the difference it would make just for the infrastructure of smaller clubs is crazy, not to mention the fact it would help breed talent in the game that could move to higher leagues and potentially improve our national team
@@HAVEANICELIFE333 Please excuse my ignorance, but what is L3? Did you mean to write L2 (serious question)?
@@robertburke5354 yeah typo haha
Notts County was one of those teams a bit over a decade ago. They had a young Kasper Schmeichel and Sven Goren-Eriksen as their manager in League Two
Sol Campbell for 10 minutes too
I’m a Southend fan same league as Wrexham with an owner who don’t pay wages when he can get away with it who has dragged Southend down to non league every week we get told the end of our club is near
So what do I think of Wrexham I think it’s fantastic good for them they have got owners who have invested in the club who have made them so big to international fans not just local I think they are brilliant and good luck to them I hope they get into the premier League eventually
7:46 this drove me nuts....Ryan is a proud CANADIAN. And yea maybe Canada is technically part of "America" but being called an American is almost insulting to me.
I'm not even a football fan but I loved the Welcome to Wrexham series so I have an active interest in them getting promoted.
Doesn't he have an american citizenship?
For me it’s really simple. They aren’t in it for business alone, for them it’s a project to see if they can do it. They want to do a FIFA Road to Glory IRL, they want to save a working class town and be heroes while shaking up the footballing world.
As for how it relates to football in general. I’m hoping we will start seeing more people doing it, Natalie Portman for example founded a women’s football club in LA to play in the WMLS. If we see more money coming into women’s football and lower leagues for the purpose of pushing not just the business of football but the story, the image and the passion. This can only improve the game in the long run.
Just imagine the Championship or even the EPL having to deal with 20 more teams all fighting desperately to climb the ladder. This will drive up competition and improve the quality of football overall.
I don’t mind Wrexham as much as a lot of teams that get rich owners in the lower leagues (AFC Fylde I’m looking at you) because their owners are quite involved and quite likeable. But the media obsession is starting to get annoying
I do think other non league teams deserve love, especially Notts County
I don't think it was that bad during the 21/22 season, but after the summer it's been absolutely rediculous how much fawning coverage they get.
@@TheRadPlayer What about Man City? They are talked about all the time. Non League teams should be respected as much as teams Like Man City etc etc
Another banger from the man himself, thanks for the uploads
Thank you for your support man!
As a Liverpool fan, we've had an amazing owner in David Moores and a horrible one in Hicks and Gillette, now a mediocre one in FSG, I'm super stoked for a club like Wrexham to have R&R as their owners.
We see John Henry once in a blue moon, only shows up when we win something, never really gave any funds to a world class manager. I will admit they did some good business in building the new training centers and the two stands, but at the end of the day, it's just business for FSG, no passion. They are just there to up the value of the club and sell. With R&R, you can see the passion. Rob learning Welsh, Ryan showing up whenever he could and using their fame to promote their team, you can see how much they value the club and the community. So all the best to Wrexham tbh. It's not a fairytale, but it's a damn good modern sports story.
As a Liverpool and Wrexham fan myself I couldn't agree more. The passion the owners bring is amazing
@Rhydian Davies same. I live in Mold and attended Wrexham games since 1984. I also share a season ticket at Liverpool. Ryan and Rob seem genuine and they are very welcome
And the news came out in the last couple of days that Ryan has bought a home in Marford a village a couple of miles from Wrexham for about £1.5 million. That certainly indicates a long-term interest.
🤮 pauper dont know how to be grateful. Back to scousers souo
Pls JWH has stopped our ckub going into admin debt free self sustainable best manager in the world every trophey bar Europa ( next seado )2 x stadium improvements 1 brand new training ground has brought pkayers wgen needed just sometimes not what we want but definitely what JK wants... JK hadnever opted for superstars EVER and he cetainly wouldn't entertain more than one in his teams....JWH has multiple businesses ones he had years begore Liverpool he doesnt habe the fortunancy of being an S list actor with time between jobs😊 you should see context before runni g in the wind with off yhe cusp comments.
. If you have ypur own business i am sure you dontrum it the way you demand others to run there's... jokers
Seeing what a couple celebrities can do to a town and community really puts into perspective what celebrities can really do if they had genuine passion and care. Screw the philanthropy, get yourselves directly involved in the community. This is such a victory on all fronts and can potentially change a lot of things especially with the expectations of people with deep pockets of money.
These owners have been great for the game and expanding interest to the world. It’s been a big part of connecting myself to actual players besides just the ones in the top headlines.
Been a fun ride so far and looking forward to following the story onward.
I would like to see a story where a club went from absolutely bottom of the barrel to something! We all as humans just love a great comeback story! And to be able to see it and say that I was there while it happened is what wrexham can give as a gift to the footballing world
It's always a good story when teams rise up through the league's, and used to happen quite a bit before the premier League, such as Swansea ,Luton, Wimbledon and Watford in the 80s, or Fulham in the late 90s.... Usually takes a good chairman, good management and a lot of money (and that last factor even more so these days).
Well i find it nice to see owners who seem to truly care about the team they bought and are investing and helping them grow instead of taking a former successful team like Scunthorpe and sink them
While there's plenty of underdog elements to this story regarding the people and community of Wrexham, the other aspect people overlook is Ryan and Rob themselves. While it's easy to see them as the big tv and movie stars they are now, the show does a good job of highlighting where they came from. Neither of them was born into money. Probably one of the best parts of the show is when Rob shows his son the small inner city home he grew up in and tells stories of how important sports were to bonding with his father. Yes, they have money now, but there's still the journey to get there and deciding how they want to continue there success. If you compared them to someone born into wealth who just did this as a hobby, then the underdog element becomes more apparent.
Ryan Reynolds is Canadian
While Wrexham has a lot more money then other clubs, and they obviously have great PR as a result, they also have advocated for better television coverage for the entire league which would help the lower leagues. I have soft spots in my heart for lower league teams - especially those that have long history, or have fallen out of the higher divisions, etc. and would love to able to watch those matches or subscribe to a single team. Lastly other investors might realize that these clubs can be good investments in the fact that if you spend a little and move up the divisions the value of the club will grow which could encourage further investment. Of course having ownership standards are absolutely key as there has been plenty of shitty owners who ruined or nearly clubs (Notts County can probably relate). Let good owners in. I'm not sure how you make sure that but Reynolds and Co seem like good owners.
Mate, there’s no such thing as good owners.
There’s no such thing as good capitalists
@@robert2690 I don't disagree actually. I sometimes tend to be an idealist which has burned me many times.
I mean Notts county is a league two team that went down to national but always prevails on coming back. The problem with the National is that there are only one automatic promotion and the playoffs are really hard to win.
Arguably, the lack of promotion spots even promotes the National League clubs spending MORE in order to try to guarantee the single spot, rather than gambling on the playoff. A similar system to Leagues One and Two would be a massive benefit - but would involve greater cooperation between the National League and EFL.
People diss Wrexham when teams like Man City, Chelsea, Man U, BARCELONA, get nothing really said. Football is changing and Wrexham have put themselves ahead of the curve for where they are. This season has been a brilliant story for them. Pulling nearly 10k for a home game when you're not even in the main leagues is astonishing. I can't wait to see how far they can take it. Who reaches the Prem first? Wrexham or Hashtag? Bring on the revolution.
Aye ano especially about the fan attendance they are in the 5 tier of English football and get 10k fans and up here in Scotland my team saint mirren who are in the top flight we only average between 7.5 and 8k
@@toyositime That's because Wrexham has a large catchment area of support, compared to Paisley which gets gobbled up by the Old Firm being nearby.
@@TheRadPlayer ye I know I was just saying and it is quite sad that the fan base gets gobbled up by the old firm I go to a school in Renfrew and everyone is either rangers or mostly Celtic there is only about 10 saint mirren fans in the whole school probaly
19:06 In the US, Premier League, Champions League, and other football leagues aren't shown on the ESPN platform. ESPN has the rights to Bundesliga, La Liga, Championship, FA Cup games, etc. So that statement only refers to matches on the ESPN platform. Premier League matches, and Champions League matches for that matter, have higher viewership in the US compared to FA Cup matches. But, NBC has the rights to Premier League and CBS has the rights to the Champions League in the US.
19:06 I don’t want to take away from how mental that is; but different broadcast companies in America own the rights to the WC (FOX) and the Champions League (CBS)
Yes, football is run by money. As a fan, you can only hope that your club has/gets ownership who care about the club and community as much as you do. It can only be a dream come true for the supporters of a club if they get both caring owners and money. It seems to me that Wrexham hit the jackpot in that regard. And hats off to Ryan Reynolds for sharing his respect for Notts County after the game, saying he hopes they promote up to League Two with Wrexham.
I think its great that they have owners who actually care about the success of the club and will do whatever it takes for them to field the best team possible, instead of having owners who do not care and just bought the club to have it on their resume
Calling this the Americanization if football is dumb. First Ryan R is Canadian. Second in the US "clubs" are run completely differently. Rob and Ryan are taking advantage of the way the EUROPEAN league works. One huge reason you can't complain about Wrexham are European league's lack of the American "Salary Cap" that the MLS uses. The rule that you can spend as much money as you want to advance a team. Its why you get teams like Wrexham in the national league and Manchester City in the premier league. Not even to mention the top teams of every major league that are always hanging at the top. You all know who they are. if you don't like it don't complain about the team; complain about the system.
Don't get me wrong, I am not the biggest fan of Wrexham having all this attention and money in the national league, however it is a breath of fresh air to see foreign owners who give everything for the club and actually know what this club means to the fans. The same can't be said for many foreign owners even in leagues like the championship and the Premier league.
Kind of disingenuous when you consider Ryan/Rob are hamming it up for a TV contract that's likely more valuable than the team itself and Rob/Ryan lie and play pretend for a living.
As a Charlton fan, whose owners have repeatedly bled the club dry, sold young talent and have never EVER invested, I'd kill for owners like Wrexham's.
No contraversy here apart from passionate fans, passionate players and passionate owners. Simple as. Anything else is sour grapes, quite frankly.
As a Wrexham fan, we went through the same thing as you for many years but we were the lucky ones to get this big new ownership.
I think most of the hate comes down to one thing. Jealousy. Ryan and Rob could easily have bought a bigger club on the verge of success, but they didn't, they bought a club who only a few years prior were almost out of business, and have given them real hope. Which fan doesn't want this for their club? It's the same as the hate that City are getting, and previously my club Chelsea got. It's pure jealousy that it's not happening to their club
Kind of. The thing is man city got their money off oil owners who are sportswashing their human rights record, while wrexham got their money off two genuine Hollywood stars who are genuinely passionate about the club. Wrexham aren't getting owned by states or consortiums, city and Chelsea are
@@vlsui66 Had you care about it, you would protest at usa and uk bombing MENA all year round. But no. It is bad when non-western do it.
@@vlsui66 I never wanna hear white people complaining about sports washing and human rights records 🤣
@@eavyeavy2864 This. It's always hilarious when western white people pretend to care about human rights and sports washing as their governments bomb the shit out of other countries and loot their resources. 🤣
19:10 Side note: ESPN only has partnerships with 3 out of the 5 major European leagues, which does not include the EPL (which is covered by NBC). FOX covers the World Cup (even though FOX and ESPN are under the Disney roof) and CBS covers the Champions League.
Other media might, but the documentary doesnt sell the team as an underdog. It makes clear that the team is staked with ringers. Them being promoted has a feeling of inevitability as you watch.
As for Notts County not getting more attention, i remember the documentary team contacted them about doing interviews and sharing their story, but Notts County told them to fuck off. Literally, iirc.
I love Wrexham and their story. When you buy a team, you’re also investing in the community. Is there money? Yes. Do the players still need to perform? Also yes.
Great article except ... One of them is American, One Canadian ... And NO we dont reference anyone from North America as "American" Canadians are not "American" We are the ones who didn't rebel against you and showed up on-time to WW1 and WWII. Its kind of like calling a Brit an Irishman.
Technically Reynolds is American-he naturalized a few years ago. But almost everyone would say he is Canadian.
Can't really begrudge Wrexham, they've always been one of the best supported in the league and have run close a number of times. During which time a fair few smaller clubs with substancial investment have gone up (Fleetwood, Salford etc).
If the football league was fair there would be 2 automatic promotion places and 1 playoff promotion from the Vanarama. Would help alleviate the bottleneck of clubs, but thats another issue.
In my opinion, the bottleneck excacerbates the issue of spending, as you have to be even more aggressive in the market to attempt to guarantee the single automatic spot.
I understand why people would be sour about a league rival suddenly having the cash flow to purchase better players (the "why couldn't it have been us!?" mindset). But I think that even with the better odds of winning games and receiving promotion, there's still no guarantee that any roster will even find that success just by attracting a couple of guys from the higher tiers and putting them out on a bad pitch, coached by a miserable manager and support staff, in games where the attendance barely reaches 60%. Rob and Ryan have done a complete overhaul, from the turf, to the stadium, to the staff, to the players, to the volunteers, to the community and the fans. And that initial investment paid back big dividends quickly which I don't think many people expected. They could have bought the team for the curiosity and left it to languish in the National standings for the tax breaks and offsets to their income, but they haven't. The second season of the docu-series laid out exactly how much money they invested on the risk that they might not even get promoted, and given the way Notts County were keeping pace with them all season (without celebrity endorsements and big player signings), they were fortunate that things paid off the way they had hoped. Other owners buy teams in order to clean up their public image (it's often called "sports-washing") in order to gain favor with the public as well as potential business partners and bankers. Rob and Ryan are not laundering their image or reputations, they did this as a genuine investment to support an ailing club. They didn't even start out as fans of the sport or the club itself, but they have adopted the town of Wrexham and it's football club and became fans and supporters of the players and the local community. I think that's a lot more remarkable and admirable than some other foreign investors currying favor with the British financial system by purchasing large clubs for the notoriety. If more local owners (businesses or the municipality for example) bought or invested in local clubs, you wouldn't have princes and sociopathic billionaires putting their thumb on the scales to unfairly stack the leagues. The other nice thing I noticed in Season 2 of Welcome to Wrexham, they gave free promotion to their rivals and competitors, and recognized the achievements of Nott's County for their success as well. By Wrexham climbing the ranks so quickly, all that attention is being put back on the lower tiers of football as well, and it's generated a lot of new international interest.
If you think about it, every oponent of Wrexham is receiving a serious amount of exposure by just playing against them.
I don’t think they deserve any hate. They are a non league side with history. They weren’t made into who they are, and they aren’t the same like City, Chelsea, RB Leipzig, etc.
I think it’s a great story. Yes you have famous owners now and more money but it’s simply not the same as a large organization or a country owning a club who pump money in controversial ways.
The attention they are getting is good for the league. They found ways to get the fans involved, show the history of the club etc.
the fans deserve it.
But like all things like this there will be hate bc it’s “not the right way”, or they have “rich owners”. Ryan and Rob together don’t even come close a fraction of the net worths of most owners in football….
History is for retired. Professional footballer live in now
I have been watching their series. Its a fun watch. But amazing video as always!!!
I enjoyed it too i'll honest, very different style of Football Docs
Personally I am happy for Wrexham and there supporters they have good owners who actually want what's best for the club and I think most fans can't help but like them and want them to go up, I don't feel there cheating I think some fans are just being salty cause if Ryan had brought there club they wouldn't say anything, I am Southampton fan and I don't hate say Newcastle for getting super rich owners cause if that happened to my club I would be over the moon
Wholeheartedly agree on this point. I'm glad a lower league team got the ownership we all really want. I also looked forward to a 5th tier match as someone who's not even English. The narrative and interest in the 5th tier could actually become beneficial down the line :D
@@BassyBoy exactly caus let's be honest no one who doesn't support a team in national League really watches it, I only keep an eye sometimes on Barnet cause my grandma is from there if it weren't for that (and we'll Wrexham) I wouldn't know much about the lower league teams and why would I, I support Southampton who have played in the premier League for the last 10 years and even if relegated I would mostly only keep an eye on teams in my league
It’s a beautiful story. Allow people to enjoy the ride. Ryan and Rob practice ALOHA 🤙🏄♂️
About 19:00: ESPN didn't have the rights to the World Cup in 2022 _OR_ the Champions League. Fox Sports had the WC rights and the Champions League was on CBS... so that's probably why Wrexham's game against Sheffield United was their most watched game.
Unorthodox? Yes.
Controversial? No.
My comments on my tweet had a very different opinion haha
@@Vizeh also it’s not American it’s Canadian or Canadian-American if you want it that way.
@@oceanmike8516 Nah, straight up, he's Canadian. He's quite proud about that too.
@@Vizeh Yes, Twitter is a good place to gauge anything...
I never cared about soccer until Rob and Ryan bought Wrexham. LOVED the documentary. From this standpoint I think them purchasing the team is a good thing bringing in new fans of the sport.
Jealous much?
15:05 fun fact my uncle is the current assistant manager of Luton Town, fucking proud of what he and the club are achieving and hope to see them in the top flight soon
I do not agree when people say "they buy the legue." Chelsea invested million and fail. Even is you buy expensive player without a good directing you will anything.
They have twice the wage budget as 2nd placed Notts County
Brighton and Leicester is example. But these paupers blame money 🤡
7:45 Actually Ryan is Canadian and is likely to buy the NHLs Ottawa Senators.
In my opinion, sure they can out-spend everyone at the moment and have done, however I think that after receiving that initial injection of cash, the high spending will start to decline as the team find more and more stability.
As someone living in America and loving football (not American), I am happy to see what happened with Wrexham. Good story, and from the few matches I seen a good club. I think that most of the people not happy and complaining are not worried as much about the fallout of "rich" owners. I think that those who don't like what is going on, are more worried about the owners of their fav club, not stepping up as Ryan and Rob did.
No controversy. They haven’t made it to the premier league … I’m don’t even watch European football casually but after watching the documentary , I am full on.
In the states here ,Fox covered the World Cup, Paramount covers the Champions league, and Espn covers other leagues, and FA cup matches.
Baseball in the USA does the same thing. Owners will "Buy" a world series and then sell off the team a year later. Don't think Rob and Ryan will do the same but you never know.
Never underestimate the brilliance of Ryan Reynolds and where he spends his money. That man is fucking brilliant in the business world and everything he’s touched has exploded. Don’t forget that Ryan Reynolds just sold Mint Mobile to T-Mobile for well-over a billion dollars….and during that sale, RR personally made around $600 million. Wrexham will continue to grow as long as RR is there because the club will have a ton of available cash along with a brilliant owner(s)