Longform Analysis & Retrospectives Podcast #3 | Feat
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Patrician relearns that actions have consequences - LARP 3
Private Sessions - / privatesessions
Tetramorre - / @tetramorre
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Can't believe I've just watched three grown men LARPing for 2 hours and 23 minutes.
I think an interesting post-Skyrim project would be Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, with a focus on the weird development it had
Ah yes
40 minutes, a true Patrick Nutrition tier nutshell.
PLEASE MISTER NUTRITION TELEVISION, MAKE A VID ON DEUS EX AND HOW IMMERSIVE SIM NOT REAL
A true immersive sim has three key cornerstones that work as the foundation of deciding if it fits the genre.
1. You can get through a locked door via means other then using a key.
2. You can stack boxes.
And 3. It kills the company that makes it.
TES only fits 1. so it's not an imsim
I agree TES is not an imsim
Simmer down there Johnny.
@@yesman9792 Never
A PatricianTV imageboard would be dope, I really like the lack of ego image boards can provide
Pat, could you play/review a random game like Aeon of Sands - The Trail? I know it's left field from your other content, but it's a decent game and hardly anyone knows about it.
Man i would love to listen to you guys discuss steak bentley's video on MGS 4
Wow wild that I made this comment two weeks before steak decides to break his like 3 year space between uploads. coincidence? I don't think so.
of course you would have to use a show trial to convict parthanac
You should see if you can get Noah Gervais on, love that guy
I don't get why people don't like Regret. That and Gravemind are my favorite in the series. Guess I'm just weird.
i thought it was the skyrim but then it was not. but more long videos :)
1:38:20
Pretty peeved with myself for falling for the elden ring video.
In part because I was pretty happy hearing some of my general complains in it, and then hearing it was all part of a joke...
You should get neverknowsbest on and any chance of a star citizen video?
nice
1:18:37 creation club is not that bad
I've been enjoying the video, but this first ten minutes of horse trotting is very annoying and distracting
hour later and it doesnt bother me anymore
Since you joke about The Joseph Anderson Witcher 3 video being delayed because of your oblivion video, could be a good bit to do an objectively wrong Witcher video next April.
According to his Witcher 1 video two years ago, it's already written.
Let’s play a game; I’ll give a high five to anyone who can timestamp the moment my dog chokes audibly from across the room
@@rake_shed My dog is a-okay, just got a little choked up on something!
1:54:26?
how many guesses do we get
pls say infinite
@@paradoxicalsg3522 nope
@@awsomeDualshock as many as is needed to find the iconic moment my dog hacked loudly in the background
1:41:30 The skeleton key for the skeleton car is still my favorite joke
Excluded again
glad you guys are back, I thought this was over and I'm glad it's not. definitely the podcast I've enjoyed the most
16 hour Skyrim video, 20 hour ESO video, 24 hour Arena video, 28 hour Daggerfall part 1, 32 hour video that is literally just playing Daggerfall without fast travel
@@electricVGC and of course, a half a year long vid on all the moble titles.
@@electricVGC I couldn't get past the first hour of them circle jerking about his lame troll video. Shit wasn't funny and he put WAY too much thought into it.
I actually love listening to the long form analysis stuff at work. Even for games I would never play myself. I listened to one about bio-shock that was really great to learn the story, I just really don't like shooter gameplay and wouldn't have played it.
1:36:10 Gosh Tetra, I can't believe you conflated II.8 Final Chapter Prologue with 0.2 Birth By Sleep: A Fragmentary Passage, what a fake fan, SMH.
Well, 2.8 is a compilation that includes 0.2, so I get where it's coming from, it's an absolutely atrocious naming scheme.
Shoot, you’re right, the name isn’t quite as atrocious as I remembered lol
I remember your retrospectives good times
It’s funny that Private Sessions mentioned Dovahhatty, since he also did a Morrowind video. I haven’t watched his Rome video, but I think his Morrowind video reminded me of Sseth’s.
Glad we got some discussion on Tetra's Paperclip video. Genuinely one of the most impressive videos I've seen
Glad you enjoyed it, I had a lot of fun digging into an obscure game with like one other video on it
Have you tried the first two Thief entries? They're amazing games, and the first one has a very strong atmospheric presence combined with that sort of Morrowind magic where everything ties together coherently without sacrificing player agency.
I think that, in those terms, the 5 defining missions in those games (and immersive sims [System Shock, Prey, Deus Ex, VTM Bloodlines, etc.] by extension) would be:
By Rank:
Trail of Blood (The Metal Age)
The Sword (The Dark Project)
The Haunted Cathedral (TDP)
Down In The Bonehoard (TDP)
Return to The Cathedral (TDP)
I will mention that RTC does have two significant flaws related to its extreme atmospheric strength. It is a very tense level, very punishing to mistakes, and needing hyperawareness to stealth through. This is because of these enemies called haunts, whose presence pushes the player to the final limit of stealth and escape (if you aren't save scumming).
However, there exists ways to kill these enemies to make navigation more convenient, and the level will even require that you do kill these at the very end. I would consider those to be a compound flaw. I would remove these entirely, making the haunts stunnable but impossible to kill on higher difficulties.
Secondly, I believe that the single exit of the main Cathedral conflicts with the level's primary objective. I would make the completion of the false main objective not as jarring by making a second way out of the Cathedral through the rooftops. This would sacrifice having to deal with the lower 3 haunts for instead traversing difficult paths blocked by undead. Illuminated by the full moon, you could then potentially being detected making your way down by patrolling haunts, zombies, and ghosts (hypersensitive because of the Eye's meddling).
Apart from those two flaws, this is one of my most respected levels in a game, for what it does in terms of difficulty and gameplay. Many of the difficult missions have less threatening pursuers in exchange for labyrinths of level design. The Cathedral is unique in that it is the hardest of these amazing missions, and it plays completely different (if you play it stealthily) from every other mission in the game. The randomized pathing and high awareness/aggression of the haunts forces you off any sort of rhythm or flow in a structurally simple level. The level doesn't try to make implausible dark little spots to prevent you from getting caught in the moonlight. Enemies aren't going to deaggro to you, because you've been running in a circle for 5 minutes. You are in a Cathedral of demonic presence that killed an entire organization of Hammerites. The game doesn't care if you quicksaved while they were on your tail, and you have to get instantly punished with death 20 times to get away.
And what you actually do in the mission is so off, in terms of character and context. Your character usually has some sort of wise crack or cynic joke, but he just remains silent for most of the mission, and what he says shows his discomfort. It's this unified uncomfortable atmosphere that acts as a perfect lead into the final act of The Dark Project (shame it was so poor).
Even you don't enjoy it, the level is extremely memorable, and you have to respect it.
Nice, another week another LARP
"Content" sounds extremely corporate. I understand its usage as a catch-all term to cover the large variety of internet "content creators" but the word itself is just soulless. It's so easy to imagine a group of Netflix suits presenting a powerpoint where "content" is nothing but a fungible good measurable in hours or dollars. "We have 10,000 hours of content, the consumers will love it!"
Instead of treating works of art or entertainment on an individual basis, grouping it all as indistinct "content" boils everything down to this featureless gray goo. The soylent green of media.
Eh
does your discord still have 200 post limits and auto-deletion? Caus I don't see it.
Gonna play Outer Wilds? (Not world's). It'd fit in for your hard science approach In a lot of ways
Well, now Pat has a lot more time for those space games, since Starfield got delayed till 2023.
>simping for elves
pathetic
15:30 i think Mountain Tops and Faram Azula are a drag to play, tbh. Beat the game, and enjoyed it, though
How can farum azula be a drag, with new enemies and interesting level design and platform with tons of things to do?
@@Frank-kq4te can't tell if this is a troll or not lol
@@themattbat999 i was thinking the same about you
@@peergynt9852 none of the Faram Azula enemies are unique, except for the boss at the end of the area, and all of them deal unholy amounts of damage, plus are damage sponges. I simply didn't find it a fun area to do
Not to shoehorn you in as just a long form content creator, but I could tell the Elden Ring vid was bait just by the length. It was either going to be rage bait reflecting your true feelings (which it sort of was), or it was going to be a a joke in terms of quality analysis (which it also was). Either way it was massively entertaining
Thanks to Pat I can start getting mentally prepared for April fool's in February
Not trying to attempt to foster an unrealistic parasocial relationship here, but when Pat said “No one ever reciprocates my drama”, I felt that one in my bones. Reminds me of the scene from Fight Club where the members are tasked with starting a random fight on the street, and it’s virtually impossible because most people don’t want to engage in conflict.
that scene in fight club was true at the time but try that these days and see what happens lol 😆
You gaslit me into thinking this was a video and not a stream from 6 hours ago.
Why aren't these podcasts in a playlist?
Can't wait for the PatTV Super Mario 64 review
Halo Sperging
Halo 1 levels
Pillar of Autum, I geniunly great introduction to the mechanics and world, I like that it has these closed corridors and plenty of human ammo, a certified hood classic
[what ever the second level is called], I like it, but it is probably one of the weaker preflood levels ( only Truth and Recognsilation is worse in my eyes) It is novel how the level opens up for the player and is open ended on what order you help the marines as well as tiny details like the hub getting more crowded with covedent after each marine party to show the covedent search from inital scouting to sending in infantry as well as the introduction of the Jackel ( my favorite enemy).
Truth and Recognsilation, I like the ship part, and the preship part, but it just does not click the same way the next two levels do, the introduction of Golden elites, Hunters and invisible elites is neat as well.
Silent Cartographer, probably the second best level in halo CE, and probably over all, the island is a sand box that never gets old for me, the digging into the catacoms is also great as well as the fight back up.
[level 5], the best level in any halo game hands down, the fighting down to the ravine and the pushing with either a tank or Warthog gets me every time, then racing to beat the elite to the banshee and green bombing the elite general at the end is a comploltion of mine.
[the flood level], neat shift to horror, the best level to contain flood in CE, a good second act twist.
Libary, the worst level and needs no explaination.
Two Betrayals, I like the begining cutscene and having 3 enemy factions, but an absolute slog.
Keyes, I never really replay past the flood introduction besides Maw because although it is neat to go through the previous areas with the change in relations, the flood suck.
Maw, I like it, it is a level that i rarely play (I have beaten the first six levels [particularally pillar, Silent, fifth, and flood dozens if not a hundred times] but I still enjoy it.
Halo 2
Cairo, a neat level that is a good follow up to the pillar of autum, not much to add.
Africa level 1, I like the tight corridors and urban combat, the beach and interstate were a particularlly fun but.
Africa 2, I always play 2 and 3 together and together they are a nice time killer, the scarab battle is great.
Arbitor levels are all bad, except the final mission
The drop ship level, I usually skip to this level after killing the scarab, and have a blast killing and driving through these ruins and taking the farries.
high Charity, the last level I like replaying as chief, it is all fun and enjoyment until the flood arive and ruin the second half
final level, the third best halo level in my opinion, it has a nice variety of experiances and the boss fight is fun
Halo 3, I like the game until the flood arrive, but it is the worse by a considerable amount to be honest.
While some instances could be chalked up to game rentals or playing games that your friends owned (I did this a lot myself), you are probably right that some people have nostalgia for games they never actually played. Sometimes it's trying to be cool and other times you just accidentally gaslight yourself into believing that you did play that game.
Like I thought I had played Doom 2 for the longest time as a kid until I did a replay of the first game (on something that wasn't the SNES for the first time) and realized that I had just separated the first game into two distinct parts in my memory for some reason.
I'm happy to have more than rpg content
So did Pat basically say that Setch and Pagan are dumb or am I hearing that wrong?
Yes
I'm glad that I avoid videos on games that I have no interest in. I just have no desire to watch Elden Ring stuff.
It's the same thing with Elite Dangerous. I watched Mandalore Gaming's video on it and just had zero desire. It looks too much like a "No Man's Sky" clone.
I try to at least once watch a creator I love's video even if I have no desire or interest in what they are reviewing. So for videos like that I'll mute them and let them play in the background while I go off to eat lunch.
I did save the Marrowind and the Oblivion video to a spare hard drive, along with Session's Fallout video, as my internet can be occasionally spotty due to bad weather. All of them really helped the last snow storm that hit here.
Youre missing out.
@@peergynt9852 I'm sure that I am, but I can't help to not want to play the games.
I'm WAY more excited over the latest version of modded minecraft or the new ESO expansion. While the games seem similar, both MMO and SIM wise, I guess I'm just tired of being burned. From the sounds of it, Elite Dangerous has problems with its expansions. So I wouldn't want to get that and be let down. So, with that, I may as well not get Elite Dangerous.
Considering Elite Dangerous a no man's sky clone is probably the funniest take I've seen in a while.
@@naunau311 That'd be why I had no desire to play Elite Dangerous then
@@thepopemichael because calling the game a no man's sky clone is funny? Huh.
I only play halo on original disc on the 360
I've been there for the Acerthorn stream, it was glorious
1:54:00 Pat, you talk about how WotLK very well might've influenced Skyrim. How about Tomb Raider Underworld? Also a 2008 release and the norse ruins and thralls in it are visually extremely reminiscent of Nord barrows and Draugr in Skyrim.
2:05:15 separate channels for different kind of games is a faulty practice in the grand scheme of things. technically such tendency encourages companies not to try something different, like original crossbreeds between genres (death stranding, even everything fallout since fallout 3). or vice versa, encourages companies to release seemingly safe, yet undesirable and unoriginal products (blizzard and diablo immortal, valve and artifact, n amount of moba's, etc.). without going too deep into all of this, market observation exists.
LOVE THIS SERIES
fell asleep during final half hour of skyrim vid, thanks to auto-play ended up waking up in the middle of this and legit gaslit myself into genuinely believing for a good bit that this is some live post-premiere talk. that’s despite having listened through this before
18:31 Reference to a certain someone who used a 7 minute clip from creetosis unedited in their video. 😏
23:15 shame you had to choose. Kotor 2 was my first rpg as a kid and i'm quite lucky for that since that started my love for the genre.
Oh hey yeah it'd be cool to hear SaltyShrimpPasta on one of these
If you are looking for a true idle game that is based off of OSRS try Melvor idle. Really fun and actually a true idle game.
Torment Planescape needs to be talked about. at least a little bit.
every video is a joke
so there's no difference
Who are they talkin about at 42:00? I cant hear out the name
Disagree on Skyrims writing being "deep" but maybe I'll be convinced by your videos.
Longest week ever.
Elden Ring is Good
ITS BACK!!!
Another week another LARP
The fake elden ring video threw me off. I was horribly confused because so much information was incorrect. It wasnt matching the impression I got from you're previous vids(I started with Oblivion and worked backwards) so I just stopped watching for a few weeks to see if the pattern held. Glad it didnt!
It was so obviously a joke
Why were all the old stream videos taken down? Did one of the creators he critiqued get butthurt?
They were moved/are in the process of moving to the other channel because people don't know how to use playlists
"longform" is not 1 word and the abbreviation isnt "larp"