Corrections: - Twist controls RUDDER, of course. I had my dual stick Star Citizen controls in the back of my head ... (thanks to thespacemanfil4921) - ...
X52 is still a good stick, I just upgraded to a X56 just recently after using the X52 as long as you. just the trigger was getting a little sticky, fixable, but i just fancied something newer.
What? Where... Lol //edit: oh shit I found it. Pitch yaw and roll... my brain played a trick on me as I wrote that script. 🙈 I used twist to roll in Star Citizen @ dual stick.
13:12 in anything but Il2 great battles and XP12 just set your camra to your right stick/HAT or your HOTAS correctly and use that it works perfectly...
It works but far from perfectly. You'll get much better results with head tracking especially if you try to look from like 90° to the left all the way to the right.
please do not play vtol vr in flat screen mode it is so amazing to play in vr and using a mod to play with hotas or in flat screen mode ruins the game but if you got a vr headset and a good pc try it
Absolutely. Vtol VR really shines... well... in VR. I just played a little but I'll absolutely want to play more even though I own a ton of stuff like almost the complete IL2, some DCS modules, msfs2020 etc...
16:10 Yeah that's just let of tail rotter/ Vertical stabilized DCS being DCS.... You should not have that problem in XP12 or MSFS2020... But um I could be wrong I have not tried helos in those two yet...
12:26 If you truly mean that you should have inculed Il2 great battles, Ace combat 7, DCS helicopeters with WT as they all match that description... Although to be honest all of those I mentioned but AC7 are deep sims in their their own way just not acurqite to reality let's say as they all have their own feel to it... But yeah the only major realse ythat does fit that discripestion is Ace combat because it's an arcade flight combat sim(Yes you have to include that as it's just the name of the genre like the Shooter in FPS.) and even then it has harder multiplayer combat then WT and DCS becyuase of the arcade nature like missles burn till they die and you "fly on rails" as the kids say... Also it teachs you mpdern combat avation really well better then WT and DCS do infact although DCS is close... So yeah don't sleep on AC even if your a heard core flight simer.
Hi what would be a good game to get my 7 yo off roblox PTFS pilot training flight simulator, MS flight sim is to hard for him currently so need a bridge game. I have a x55 rhino stick and throttle plus xbox pads if that helps. Thanks in advance kind stranger.
2:15 that is true on all the sims shown but Il2: Great battles do lack luster look options so you need Head/eye tracking/VR to fly well or get gud a dogfighting looking forward... And I don't know about Falcon and VTOL VR you well need VR for that one Also X-plane 12 just hates anything that is not popular for flight sims so not gamepad support... Also I would recommend Warthunder for just trying to fly as it's free to play and you can use mouse and keyboard tthe only Flight sim where that's even a realistic option and you can just test with a wide selction of planes and even shoot stuff... But yeah I would avoid matchmaking and try DCS: world instead and just mess around with the 2 free craft or just buy a $7 flaming cliffs plane instead my recoumandtion would be the F-15 dues to all of the mods it has which DCS has as much if not more gamepad support that MSFS 2020... Which you need to mess with option wise and you can fly and land with just the gamepad as no flaps toggle...
Yes. That's why I didn't call it a flight sim and explained why. Yet it still simulates certain aspects of flight and might work as an entry point for interested people. Lots of DCS players started with War Thunder for example.
Yes, forgot to mention it. It hasn't been treated well by the devs over the last few years so I completely forgot about it. Thanks for pointing it out! :)
7:18 meanwhile back in my day X-Plane 9 days you expected 90% of free mudded craft to have 3D clickable cockpits and I honestly expact more from DCS with it's reputation...
14:42 Honestly tghe only reason to use a HOTAS these days is impersion, Training or straight up preference... Like I only use a gamepad a 3rd party one at that with a keybpard and mouse in all the sims mentioned in the video but XP12 and Falcon(Because I have yet to try it.) and oddly only two stand out as just ok... MSFS 2020 and Il2 great battles... why? Same reason both can easly have the same great gamepad input as DCS,WT,AC7 but refuse to add l afew optuions to allow for take off, flight, combat and landing controls which IL2 needs a rick stick look and MSFS 2020 needs a toggle option for flaps and gear... As for XP12 it'sw the ONLY sFlight sim I no that refused to even try to reconize my gamepad! Like what in the world XP!?!?! DO YOUR JOB! But anyway the main reason I use a gamepad over my Saitac X52 I got 20 years ago is covence and it just does not offer me any more function as I would need a keyboard and mouse any way for thse modern flight sims. So yeah before you buy that $100-$500 HOTAS think deeplyu about how much does immersion give you over convence?
10:42 Lights are prettier though but yeah MSFS 2020 is a much better successor to X-Plane 9 then X-pane 12 is and that is coming form an X-plane 9 fan who never could get into the previous MSFSes... Oh an you MUST have a controller it likes and it CAN"T be a gamepad so look up a controller list first.
14:03 My main issues are a pain to record/set up with controls and limited FOV/refesharate and I use an OG octulas Rift also it's makes my A-10's cockpit look like a toy. So I Just prefore my single 1090s high refresh rate screen.
No, you can assign few modifiers on your stick and multiply the amount of buttons you have on your stick. I started flying DCS with only T Flight Hotas X
@@hefkyyy No, you cannot assign all in your T Flight Hotas X. Especially for fighter jets... So, in DCS you'll still need a keyboard and mouse. And there is nothing bad to have keyboard and mouse on a PC...
Maybe and thanks for pointing it out. Never played this sim but will take a look. Still this video is not about maximum realism but "a possible entry point to take the first steps in flight sims".
Interesting ... I never heard about Aerofly and just had a look at it. It's a small developer, alright, but the latest version seems to be quite nice. Thanks again! I'm more into the military stuff that's why I probably didn't know about its existence. Maybe I'll do a review.
Corrections:
- Twist controls RUDDER, of course. I had my dual stick Star Citizen controls in the back of my head ... (thanks to thespacemanfil4921)
- ...
excellent video to get started!
Thanks! :)
Excellent video, thanks. What a wonderful channel I've found!
Thanks! :) Happy someone appreciates the video. It somehow doesn't do as well as I had hoped. :(
16:43 Yeah my Satac X52 has lasted me 20 years and I heard win win not lasted a few years before.
X52 is still a good stick, I just upgraded to a X56 just recently after using the X52 as long as you. just the trigger was getting a little sticky, fixable, but i just fancied something newer.
8:59 or the endless entertanmnet of the mission editor...
Who needs a real dynamic campaign if you can have "instant action" /s ;)
Stick twist controls rudder, not ailerons 😅
What? Where... Lol
//edit: oh shit I found it. Pitch yaw and roll... my brain played a trick on me as I wrote that script. 🙈 I used twist to roll in Star Citizen @ dual stick.
Over all though a great video that just falls victim of common modern day Flight simming myths.
Myths?
13:12 in anything but Il2 great battles and XP12 just set your camra to your right stick/HAT or your HOTAS correctly and use that it works perfectly...
It works but far from perfectly. You'll get much better results with head tracking especially if you try to look from like 90° to the left all the way to the right.
please do not play vtol vr in flat screen mode it is so amazing to play in vr and using a mod to play with hotas or in flat screen mode ruins the game but if you got a vr headset and a good pc try it
Absolutely. Vtol VR really shines... well... in VR. I just played a little but I'll absolutely want to play more even though I own a ton of stuff like almost the complete IL2, some DCS modules, msfs2020 etc...
16:10 Yeah that's just let of tail rotter/ Vertical stabilized DCS being DCS.... You should not have that problem in XP12 or MSFS2020... But um I could be wrong I have not tried helos in those two yet...
12:26 If you truly mean that you should have inculed Il2 great battles, Ace combat 7, DCS helicopeters with WT as they all match that description... Although to be honest all of those I mentioned but AC7 are deep sims in their their own way just not acurqite to reality let's say as they all have their own feel to it... But yeah the only major realse ythat does fit that discripestion is Ace combat because it's an arcade flight combat sim(Yes you have to include that as it's just the name of the genre like the Shooter in FPS.) and even then it has harder multiplayer combat then WT and DCS becyuase of the arcade nature like missles burn till they die and you "fly on rails" as the kids say... Also it teachs you mpdern combat avation really well better then WT and DCS do infact although DCS is close... So yeah don't sleep on AC even if your a heard core flight simer.
Hi what would be a good game to get my 7 yo off roblox PTFS pilot training flight simulator, MS flight sim is to hard for him currently so need a bridge game.
I have a x55 rhino stick and throttle plus xbox pads if that helps.
Thanks in advance kind stranger.
Hmm ... maybe "tiny combat arena"?
@@WatchMysh thanks I'll go take a look, I got him skye on steam but it has bi-planes and he likes big jets (he can not lie).
@@FishamaticianDX2-66 lol. We other brothers can't deny. Well, then your little Sir Fly-a-lot should be quite fond of tiny combat arena.
das kommt gerade richtig! haha
Wunderbar :)
2:15 that is true on all the sims shown but Il2: Great battles do lack luster look options so you need Head/eye tracking/VR to fly well or get gud a dogfighting looking forward... And I don't know about Falcon and VTOL VR you well need VR for that one Also X-plane 12 just hates anything that is not popular for flight sims so not gamepad support... Also I would recommend Warthunder for just trying to fly as it's free to play and you can use mouse and keyboard tthe only Flight sim where that's even a realistic option and you can just test with a wide selction of planes and even shoot stuff... But yeah I would avoid matchmaking and try DCS: world instead and just mess around with the 2 free craft or just buy a $7 flaming cliffs plane instead my recoumandtion would be the F-15 dues to all of the mods it has which DCS has as much if not more gamepad support that MSFS 2020... Which you need to mess with option wise and you can fly and land with just the gamepad as no flaps toggle...
DCS pc only i take it???
Yep
Calling war thunder a flight simulator is a travesty.
Yes. That's why I didn't call it a flight sim and explained why. Yet it still simulates certain aspects of flight and might work as an entry point for interested people. Lots of DCS players started with War Thunder for example.
@@WatchMysh yes sorry I didn’t mean to word it accusationaly.
@@WatchMysh I started flight simming after years of playing ace combat too lol
None of them are flight simulators. All of those are flight simulator games.
@@WatchMysh Some people take those games too seriously and call those simulators. Not games.
War Thunder also has a dedicated simulater battle mode
Yes, forgot to mention it. It hasn't been treated well by the devs over the last few years so I completely forgot about it. Thanks for pointing it out! :)
7:18 meanwhile back in my day X-Plane 9 days you expected 90% of free mudded craft to have 3D clickable cockpits and I honestly expact more from DCS with it's reputation...
There's a clicky cockpit mod for each free aircraft afaik
@@WatchMysh Not the Flames pack though the one you pay for...
Yeah but X-Plane airplanes do not have any complex radar, weapon systems and damage models I suppose
14:42 Honestly tghe only reason to use a HOTAS these days is impersion, Training or straight up preference... Like I only use a gamepad a 3rd party one at that with a keybpard and mouse in all the sims mentioned in the video but XP12 and Falcon(Because I have yet to try it.) and oddly only two stand out as just ok... MSFS 2020 and Il2 great battles... why? Same reason both can easly have the same great gamepad input as DCS,WT,AC7 but refuse to add l afew optuions to allow for take off, flight, combat and landing controls which IL2 needs a rick stick look and MSFS 2020 needs a toggle option for flaps and gear... As for XP12 it'sw the ONLY sFlight sim I no that refused to even try to reconize my gamepad! Like what in the world XP!?!?! DO YOUR JOB! But anyway the main reason I use a gamepad over my Saitac X52 I got 20 years ago is covence and it just does not offer me any more function as I would need a keyboard and mouse any way for thse modern flight sims. So yeah before you buy that $100-$500 HOTAS think deeplyu about how much does immersion give you over convence?
10:42 Lights are prettier though but yeah MSFS 2020 is a much better successor to X-Plane 9 then X-pane 12 is and that is coming form an X-plane 9 fan who never could get into the previous MSFSes... Oh an you MUST have a controller it likes and it CAN"T be a gamepad so look up a controller list first.
14:03 My main issues are a pain to record/set up with controls and limited FOV/refesharate and I use an OG octulas Rift also it's makes my A-10's cockpit look like a toy. So I Just prefore my single 1090s high refresh rate screen.
Didn't experience the toy look with a Reverb G2. On contrary ...
15:38 Unless you get a winwin/verpul with a thusned inputs or so. in DCS you'll still need a keyboard and mouse.
No, you can assign few modifiers on your stick and multiply the amount of buttons you have on your stick. I started flying DCS with only T Flight Hotas X
@@hefkyyy No, you cannot assign all in your T Flight Hotas X. Especially for fighter jets... So, in DCS you'll still need a keyboard and mouse. And there is nothing bad to have keyboard and mouse on a PC...
I would expect the Aerofly FS in the list. According to reviews, the Robinson in Aerofly FS is the most realistic helicopter simulation ever made.
Maybe and thanks for pointing it out. Never played this sim but will take a look. Still this video is not about maximum realism but "a possible entry point to take the first steps in flight sims".
Interesting ... I never heard about Aerofly and just had a look at it. It's a small developer, alright, but the latest version seems to be quite nice. Thanks again! I'm more into the military stuff that's why I probably didn't know about its existence. Maybe I'll do a review.
@@WatchMysh No problem. It is relatively small project. Does not excite, does not offend. It is quite well suited for VR.
@@jaromirandel543 I didn't know these are the same devs from the RC flight sim back in the days. Brings back some memories.