@@PatrickRiggs33 Hey I could really use some help, I have a Suzuki LTZ-400 2012 model and it dosent seem to have tie rod nuts. I'm really confused and would appreciate any help you can give.
@@lucabruno1270 I'm not really sure how to help you with that. It sounds like you need to order some new tierod end nuts. If you order new tie rod ends it should come with the jam nuts.
@@PatrickRiggs33 Thank you for responding, so it turns out that the nuts welded themselves onto the tie rod over time and that's why they wouldn't twist off.
Thanks . Gona give this a shot . Its frustrating to adjust front end toe with just eye . When u think u have it down and look from rear towards front , it looks way off lol vice sersa
I have an '08 LTZ 400 limited edition it has a slight pull to the right I put new tires on it but still has that slight pull to the right I measured tire circumference equally perfect match front and rear with equal tire psi ...I swap tire from left side to the right still has a slight pull to the right I towed the right wheel in 10 mm and added + 2 lb of air to the right front and rear tires and on asphalt and steeper crowns it's still pull slightly to the right but it did help a lot I measured the distance of the axles front and rear on both sides the right side comes out 20 mm shorter than the left side in the right rear the tire is 20 mm closer to the mudguard then the left side and the rear sprocket rides toward the right on the front leading edge in the chain .. so I'm guessing at least it looks like the carrier bearing is not true squared in the swing arm and I don't know of any way of adjusting the tracking on the rear other than to modify the swing arm or the the bolts in order to add enough play to compensate for adjustment which I'm hesitant to do
Yep, sounds like the stock swingarm adjustment holes are slightly ovaled out. That will cause the rear carrier to be biased toward one side. Live with it, fix it, or upgrade the swingarm.
Tried this yesterday on my raptor 700. On one side I got a measurement of 1inch and something, don't remember exactly. Went to other side of the quad and got 7/8 of an inch. Am I doing something wrong.
The extra 1/8" of toe from lonestar is prolly to retain front end trackability to keep from wandering while under hard acceleration where the front tires are barely putting pressure on ground. So this extra 1/8" toe will function the same as if there is normal pressure on front tires at the normal 1/8" toe but not under hard acceleration. So hard accelerating is better with 1/4" toe. Normal cruising or just high speed riding without hard acceration from corner to corner sprinting around on a track would work good at 1/8" toe
Great info! I suspect you are probably right on that. For whatever reason down here in FL every quad that I setup people are very happy with the 1/8" toe in and we ride fairly aggressively skimming over whoops, etc...
@@PatrickRiggs33 I initially set my toe at 1/4. for Croom and ocala it was to much. I'm at 1/8 as well. Works well berm to berm and skipping across the woops.
No, not really a pain in the butt. To put it simply, everything from the Swingarm pivot backwards becomes LTR except for the rear shock, that stays LTZ. If cost is an issue go LTR, if you want to do it 100% right get an aftermarket LTZ swingarm from Lonestar or Fireball.
@@PatrickRiggs33 thanks dude, I have an LTZ on the jack in the garage fresh out of powder coat. Price is becoming an issue because I can’t stop buying shit for it!
@@PatrickRiggs33 im from portugal and i have some troubles with oem ltz swing arm. i cant find any houser or roll design there to buy. the ltr swing arm approves?
It's not covered I h CV e searched relentlessly and a month or so later your video come upon me so naturally I am quite interested I have 12 yfz450 and am close but am not there yet
I've done it like this for 20 years. Best method imo 👍👍
Thanks for the tip man! Couldn’t find much information about how to do it, thanks for the vid 🤙🏼
Glad it helped!
That really is a clean looking quad.
🤯🤯... I'll never eye ball it again lol thanks man that's a slick trick!
Patrick that was Perfect man thanks!! Love the content as always.
Thanks Joe!
@@PatrickRiggs33 Hey I could really use some help, I have a Suzuki LTZ-400 2012 model and it dosent seem to have tie rod nuts. I'm really confused and would appreciate any help you can give.
@@lucabruno1270 I'm not really sure how to help you with that. It sounds like you need to order some new tierod end nuts. If you order new tie rod ends it should come with the jam nuts.
@@PatrickRiggs33 Thank you for responding, so it turns out that the nuts welded themselves onto the tie rod over time and that's why they wouldn't twist off.
@@lucabruno1270 Time for some propane/mapp gas.
Thanks . Gona give this a shot . Its frustrating to adjust front end toe with just eye . When u think u have it down and look from rear towards front , it looks way off lol vice sersa
Love your Z! What size shock you use in the rear with the ltr swing arm? Regards from Portugal,😊
Standard Travel LTZ rear shock 👍
Nice job. This is the way that I do it.
Same here.👍
Thanks man saved me a lot of time
Pat, where did you get the gray 250R graphic on your bike? Looks great!
Thanks man! Bruce Aleman at Blue Line Graphics. Awesome dude!! Look up his FB Page
Those are def some good tips on doing an alignment. Thanks Patrick !
Also who do I get in touch with about getting f the ltr swinger conversion kit ?
Yes Sir! Hit up Wes Turner on the LTZ400 FB Page
I have an '08 LTZ 400 limited edition it has a slight pull to the right I put new tires on it but still has that slight pull to the right I measured tire circumference equally perfect match front and rear with equal tire psi ...I swap tire from left side to the right still has a slight pull to the right I towed the right wheel in 10 mm and added + 2 lb of air to the right front and rear tires and on asphalt and steeper crowns it's still pull slightly to the right but it did help a lot I measured the distance of the axles front and rear on both sides the right side comes out 20 mm shorter than the left side in the right rear the tire is 20 mm closer to the mudguard then the left side and the rear sprocket rides toward the right on the front leading edge in the chain .. so I'm guessing at least it looks like the carrier bearing is not true squared in the swing arm and I don't know of any way of adjusting the tracking on the rear other than to modify the swing arm or the the bolts in order to add enough play to compensate for adjustment which I'm hesitant to do
Yep, sounds like the stock swingarm adjustment holes are slightly ovaled out. That will cause the rear carrier to be biased toward one side. Live with it, fix it, or upgrade the swingarm.
Great explainations 👍
Tried this yesterday on my raptor 700. On one side I got a measurement of 1inch and something, don't remember exactly. Went to other side of the quad and got 7/8 of an inch. Am I doing something wrong.
Nope, sounds about right. They can be off like that. They aren't Porsche/Mercedes quality precision.
The extra 1/8" of toe from lonestar is prolly to retain front end trackability to keep from wandering while under hard acceleration where the front tires are barely putting pressure on ground. So this extra 1/8" toe will function the same as if there is normal pressure on front tires at the normal 1/8" toe but not under hard acceleration. So hard accelerating is better with 1/4" toe. Normal cruising or just high speed riding without hard acceration from corner to corner sprinting around on a track would work good at 1/8" toe
Great info! I suspect you are probably right on that. For whatever reason down here in FL every quad that I setup people are very happy with the 1/8" toe in and we ride fairly aggressively skimming over whoops, etc...
@@PatrickRiggs33 I initially set my toe at 1/4. for Croom and ocala it was to much. I'm at 1/8 as well. Works well berm to berm and skipping across the woops.
Whats the name of the swingarm? Is that a houser?
In this video its actually a stock LTR Swingarm 👍
You are the best 👌
Donde puedo conseguir ese swing arm para mi z400 gracias
Compre usado de un LTR450 Partout o compre nuevo de Lonestar Racing o Fireball Racing
Is that a croom sticker ?
Indeed it is
@@PatrickRiggs33 nice I am 30 mins from croom
@@jasonforbes5113 Sweet!
Hey Dude, is switching over to the LTR swinger a pain in the butt? What does it entail, parts etc.?
No, not really a pain in the butt. To put it simply, everything from the Swingarm pivot backwards becomes LTR except for the rear shock, that stays LTZ. If cost is an issue go LTR, if you want to do it 100% right get an aftermarket LTZ swingarm from Lonestar or Fireball.
@@PatrickRiggs33 thanks dude, I have an LTZ on the jack in the garage fresh out of powder coat. Price is becoming an issue because I can’t stop buying shit for it!
@@PatrickRiggs33 can you recommend anyone for porting polishing? I’m in Jacksonville, you know anyone in Florida?
what is your swingarm? nice quad :D
Thx! In this video its an LTR450 swingarm. I later changed it to a Houser swingarm for an LTZ.
@@PatrickRiggs33 im from portugal and i have some troubles with oem ltz swing arm. i cant find any houser or roll design there to buy. the ltr swing arm approves?
@@andrepinto96 Yes it will, you need a couple bushings and spacers to make it work but it does work.
@@PatrickRiggs33 only that? you dont need the hub to make it work? what pieces do you need of the ltr to make the conversion?
@@andrepinto96 I have a video on it if you search
What size tires are those Kenda’s?
18" Rear/ 20" Front.
@@PatrickRiggs33 nice they look grippy as hell!
What rims are those bro ?
Alba Beadlocks
It's not covered I h CV e searched relentlessly and a month or so later your video come upon me so naturally I am quite interested I have 12 yfz450 and am close but am not there yet
Good luck.
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