@@WheelieMedia most definitely the NA 55 found in the CLK/ C class is pretty bulletproof. Alongside that 5-speed automatic transmission, the only thing that can go wrong with it is the 13 pin connector adapter (normally the o-ring breaks overtime and coats the connector, my only advice in changing it is do not use a drill using a hand tool, and then you have to remove the belly pan to extract the conductor plate), and if it gets really bad you have to install a new conductor plate, and reflash the transmission.
I agree. However, not with the 6 cylinder 63. Take that 63 badge off. I think even AMG would have had peace of mind if they did that, since that would allow them to see how the market responds without tainting the 63 badge.
Because they have had hybrids and efficient cars for a long long time . Same with ford/ chevy/dodge . Can’t have 18mpg cars forever without efficient cars or Evs in your lineup . This should have been a boosted 6 from the c43 with e boost
Both Lexus and Toyota had to change to V6 in most of their newer models. This are just European regulations, can't do anything about them, unfortunately
Lexus can do a big 5.0L v8 cause they don’t have the same emission laws as Germany. Not the same country. Why you think Germany v8s are 3L and 4L and now looking at making a 2L 8cyl
You know I like that car ,it's VERY beautiful, it's that for me it has the wrong badging, it deserves the badge of CLA 45 s e-performance if you what I mean 👍
In 2030 Mercedes will introduce a Subscription based service which would pump synthetic V8 engine noise into the cabin. There will be 3 tiers of subscription starting from $49.99 per month.
It was a pointless flex by AMG/Merc. Nobody asked or wanted it and it’s showing. Should’ve went with a 6 cylinder hybrid instead. A 4 banger was too big a drop off for the car.
What I'm wondering is, does Mercedes REALLY sell enough C63s that they needed to go with a 4 cylinder hybrid powertrain? Did the V8 really affect fleet emissions that much? They didn't even step down from a V8 to their inline-6 for the AMG models to soften the blow. Just STRAIGHT to a 4 banger.
Agreed. If all you care about are 0-60 time then you're not a real car lover. Those times along with quarter mile times are from optimal conditions that we can't recreate in the real world.
Wrong! When you buy a AMG you are buying it for the performance and the sound is secondary. Your V8 does 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds. This car does 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds according to Car and Driver. So i will win the race with this car and you with your V8 can go home and say but I won with the sound. SMH LOL
@@christopheranders4703 I am a real car lover and you don't know what you are talking about. AMG is building the cars for performance and sound is secondary. The V8 does 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds. This car does 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds according to Car and Driver. It would leave your V8 in the dust. So i will win the race with this car and you with your V8 can go home and say but I won with the sound. SMH LOL
C63 Black Series is my ultimate dream car. Almost didn't click because of the 4cyl but glad I did! I'd maybe include Black Series in the title. Nice review
Those merc motors are so strong. Bolt on 1 or.2.turbos or a blower easy 800hp. And for drag racing, autos are king. Built autos have been superior for decades. H pattern manuals are for the novelty. Drifting and circuit racing, yes manuals w/ clutch. (Sequential is king). Once you start makings big hp numbers in a street car you want an auto. Note: ive got a manualized- automatic (6l80) with a ratchet shifter. Drives like a sequential manual. Racing its instant shifts, never stops putting power down. Barely feel the shifts
I could sell them ALL with one word….COSWORTH. If they would have run headlong into the 4 cylinder and not tried backing away from the V8. They could’ve sold as many as they could build.
Nice review. The new C63 seems like it is still a good car but it doesn’t have the soul of the previous 2 generations. Fans of the C63 expect the car to have a V8 engine. It seems like it is on the level of the WRX.
hi miles, love the videos, but ive noticed your shot of yourself in the cars is a bit shakey, im not sure what camera mount carwow uses but theirs dont seem to shake
I'd go even further than @CarswithMiles by saying the C63 is right car, wrong manufacturer. AMG has not always built the fastest or most technical cars in its class, but they have been the most brutal and most adrenaline-inducing by far. I remember seeing 6.2L W204 C63's with stickers that said "Only milk and juice come in 2 Liters". Does AMG expect these same buyers to buy the new C63? It's sacrilege.
Yeah everything you've said is true If this car had a V8 people would love it, and as a Sport Car it delivers despite the 4cylinder engine... but we can all agree that W20 was the best and not because it was mindblowingly fast, but because of everything and this only lacks what we love a V8 I'd call hypocrisy from those who just hate on this without giving a chance, I was talking to a couple fellas few days and I've said that if the new C63s isn't better than M3 and RS5 because of the engine, then we can all agree that no 3series/4series and rs5/4/3 are better than W204. And then they start yapping, but my point is if this ain't good because of the 4cyl so no m3/m4 and rs3/4/5 is better W204 because it has a V8, right? It is not about the fastest, it is about the engine?
This definitely should've been the CLA powertrain. A 4 cylinder, electric motor assisted powertrain with a 1,000 pound increase makes no sense for a C63. They could've at least made a twin turbo V6 and no electric motors for the same amount of power and a lot less weight.
Nope, not buying it - thing is a junk pile that's been failing to launch in the US for over a year. They can't give these away in Europe and the same will happen here. This is a total disaster for MB.
Great review as always… I am fortunate to own the GLE AMG 63s. The engine is amazing in every aspect as is the comfort, handling, infotainment and esthetic (for an SUV). I can’t imagine Mercedes will keep this 4 cylinder in the more expensive classes
Its Amazing that 4 cylinders can now compete with older v8s and v8s in general, but the personality of the v8 is most definitely the most catching part of it
As u said in the review I think the badging really is the issue Its the same with all the brands badging their models with higher displacement numbers than the cars truly got And I know downsizing and engines with different power stages are making this way more difficult but there must be better alternatives then what they are doing currently Like with BMW Nobody asked for the 3.0 engine to be named 40i or now even M40i 30i would’ve been fine like it was the past 35 years and to solve the problem with the 30i and the 20i using both the b48 just call the big one 20i and the small one 18i To finish it off call the b38 powered version 315i and everybody would be happy In the past there was 16i models aswell so why should that be a problem Ofc with the new c63 having a 2.0 engine this is way harder since 20 AMG would sound ass but like I said there must be better alternatives U could for example try to focus more on the hybrid power or the electronically powered turbo charger
How about just AMG C45 SE?… It shares the same drivetrain with the AMG CLA45 and the AMG C43. AMG C45 SE seems like the only correct answer. Plus AMG uses “SE” (E-Performance) for the V8-hybrid 63 models Even C53 would be appropriate
You're absolutely right, the C63 name should have been retired with the V8. Could have called it a C45 or 50. At least it's not a fake AMG like the 43 and 53 models.
Too many car companies failing to realize the nerdy tech stuff doesn't appeal to actual car enthusiasts or performance car enthusiasts at the least I'm never looking or touching my fancy screen and they over complicate doing basic shit.
As an owner 2 W204 C63's, I can say it's not about the speed all the time. There will always be faster cars. An AMG is supposed to be a blunt object, not smooth lines and elegant. Mercedes has enough electric cars to offset its fuel economy average.
These New E performance AMG. There's nice but I can already see they're going to be having electrical issues in the future. Wish we just got just gas powered cars and no electric bs.
BMW guy but this car is overhated honestly. Maybe it doesnt have the V8, but in 10 years I see it becoming appreciated more. Same thing happens with BMWs. Also the M3c with xDrive stat wise does keep up with this.
I don’t understand the point of the M3 xDrive being unable to keep up with this car in the real world. Based on Car and Driver testing: M3 0-60 -> 2.8 seconds 1/4 mile -> 11.0 @ 124mph Curb weight -> 3929lbs C63S 0-60 -> 2.9 seconds 1/4 mile -> 11.2 seconds Curb weight -> 4749lbs
So the Aston Martin DB12 goes under the bus and the deeply misunderstood and unloved three-motor C63 with a wheezing 4-banger is the mountain on which Miles makes his last stand. Your tastes are, ahem, quite eclectic, sir. Let's see if MB can sell 'em.
I think the DB12 is solid. Just not for $350,000. The C63 could at least get the build quality part right. I wouldn't personally put my money towards either car. But this at least an objectively insane performance car for under $100,000. DB12 is not.
DO LESS so you can do things better. MB needs to scale back on the headline nonsense so it can focus on the core functions of its AMG cars. These cars don't need rear-wheel steering, save on cost and weight, and focus the engineering dollars on better steering feel. These cars don't need a plug-in hybrid system, save the cost and weight, and focus on a conventional hybrid. These cars don't need a 9-speed transmission, save the cost and weight, and focus on a 7-Speed. If AMG did the three things I just mentioned the C63 could cost $10,000 less, weigh 500 lbs less, and feel more engaging to drive.
Just like that original recipe FourLoko, That Kompressor era will always be my favorite. Upgrade the pullies, light tune and a intake 🚀
Thanks, you've triggered my Millennial PTSD with the FourLoko reference.
and the most reliable engine AMG made save the NA version. I am currently looking for one.
Wild….but goated take 👍
@@WheelieMedia most definitely the NA 55 found in the CLK/ C class is pretty bulletproof.
Alongside that 5-speed automatic transmission, the only thing that can go wrong with it is the 13 pin connector adapter (normally the o-ring breaks overtime and coats the connector, my only advice in changing it is do not use a drill using a hand tool, and then you have to remove the belly pan to extract the conductor plate), and if it gets really bad you have to install a new conductor plate, and reflash the transmission.
@@edd2184NA m113?
Miles: we're not gonna call it the C63 6:58
Miles in the very next shot: 7:09
absolutely right about it being a branding issue, if it was the CLA45 it wouldve sold like crazy
“Close but no Diddy” had me chocking on my turkey burger
Turkey burger??? You def yes Diddy. 🤣🤣🤣
"Close but no diddy" had me losing it 🤣
😂
miles is miles ahead with his review style 👀😅
Smooth one😅
little sprinkle of throttle house 😂. Puns need some work but I see potential
This should have been the C53 AMG and the C63 should have been given the 6 cylinder with fancy turbos to rival the M3.
It doesn't rival M3 sound. But it definitely rivals M3 performance
I agree. However, not with the 6 cylinder 63. Take that 63 badge off. I think even AMG would have had peace of mind if they did that, since that would allow them to see how the market responds without tainting the 63 badge.
They should have just made up some new badge name for the e-performance version, and kept the V8 version as the 63 and launched both
@@shamza_bosstrue it's better to retire the 63 badge than to ruin it. Call it a c57e or something like that
@@dy7296exactly!
"Because mercedes had to"
That is a lie because the Lexus v8 is still for sale in multiple models...
Because they have had hybrids and efficient cars for a long long time . Same with ford/ chevy/dodge . Can’t have 18mpg cars forever without efficient cars or Evs in your lineup . This should have been a boosted 6 from the c43 with e boost
Both Lexus and Toyota had to change to V6 in most of their newer models.
This are just European regulations, can't do anything about them, unfortunately
@@gameandmodsreview2447Can tell them to kindly f*ck off. What do those gangsters know about engineering?
Lexus can do a big 5.0L v8 cause they don’t have the same emission laws as Germany. Not the same country. Why you think Germany v8s are 3L and 4L and now looking at making a 2L 8cyl
They shoulda just called it the C45 AMG-E or something to avoid confusion until they could come up with a real C63 with a V8.
You know I like that car ,it's VERY beautiful, it's that for me it has the wrong badging, it deserves the badge of CLA 45 s e-performance if you what I mean 👍
This. Call it a CLA45 and it would be gangsta and sales would be very good.
@@rebeltvr6046 That is what a C43 amg is moron.
It's a C, not a CLA. Make it a C45 or C55.
@@B4R0N. Good idea
This can't carry the 63s legendary name
In 2030 Mercedes will introduce a Subscription based service which would pump synthetic V8 engine noise into the cabin. There will be 3 tiers of subscription starting from $49.99 per month.
Mercedes already does it now in the V8s lol
The four loco 💀
Four loko
The clip you showed at 9:43 sounds like a VW golf GTI, not at all a fitting noise for a car of this price point.
It's crazy how many BMW M3 and M4 I see but hardly any new C63s in London, UK
In the US they are just sitting unsold on dealer lots, even discounted. Nobody wants this turd.
It was a pointless flex by AMG/Merc. Nobody asked or wanted it and it’s showing. Should’ve went with a 6 cylinder hybrid instead. A 4 banger was too big a drop off for the car.
What I'm wondering is, does Mercedes REALLY sell enough C63s that they needed to go with a 4 cylinder hybrid powertrain? Did the V8 really affect fleet emissions that much? They didn't even step down from a V8 to their inline-6 for the AMG models to soften the blow. Just STRAIGHT to a 4 banger.
It's actually called a 4-Loco
I'm pretty sure they did as the C63 was their most sold AMG model historically.
no one seems to be on board with it because no one cares about speed anymore, they want a cool experience that only a v8 can give
Agreed. If all you care about are 0-60 time then you're not a real car lover. Those times along with quarter mile times are from optimal conditions that we can't recreate in the real world.
Wrong! When you buy a AMG you are buying it for the performance and the sound is secondary. Your V8 does 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds. This car does 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds according to Car and Driver. So i will win the race with this car and you with your V8 can go home and say but I won with the sound. SMH LOL
@@christopheranders4703 I am a real car lover and you don't know what you are talking about. AMG is building the cars for performance and sound is secondary. The V8 does 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds. This car does 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds according to Car and Driver. It would leave your V8 in the dust. So i will win the race with this car and you with your V8 can go home and say but I won with the sound. SMH LOL
C63 Black Series is my ultimate dream car. Almost didn't click because of the 4cyl but glad I did! I'd maybe include Black Series in the title. Nice review
If this was named
Mercedes-AMG C53 S E-Performance
Nobody would even complain, in fact!
These would sell even better…
'close but no diddy' lol what the fuck man 😂
Those merc motors are so strong. Bolt on 1 or.2.turbos or a blower easy 800hp. And for drag racing, autos are king. Built autos have been superior for decades. H pattern manuals are for the novelty. Drifting and circuit racing, yes manuals w/ clutch. (Sequential is king). Once you start makings big hp numbers in a street car you want an auto. Note: ive got a manualized- automatic (6l80) with a ratchet shifter. Drives like a sequential manual. Racing its instant shifts, never stops putting power down. Barely feel the shifts
Couldn’t agree more…..If it was the c43 badge instead it would be so much more loved
No diddy he says 😂
I could sell them ALL with one word….COSWORTH. If they would have run headlong into the 4 cylinder and not tried backing away from the V8. They could’ve sold as many as they could build.
so would u recommend this for a daily?
Nice review. The new C63 seems like it is still a good car but it doesn’t have the soul of the previous 2 generations. Fans of the C63 expect the car to have a V8 engine. It seems like it is on the level of the WRX.
Guy : so we’re are just not going to call it the c63 anymore.
Also guy literally 3 seconds later : “IF MERCEDES DID ANYTHING RIGHT WITH THE C63”
7:34 the width of the rear tire is underwhelming 😢
hi miles, love the videos, but ive noticed your shot of yourself in the cars is a bit shakey, im not sure what camera mount carwow uses but theirs dont seem to shake
I'd go even further than @CarswithMiles by saying the C63 is right car, wrong manufacturer. AMG has not always built the fastest or most technical cars in its class, but they have been the most brutal and most adrenaline-inducing by far.
I remember seeing 6.2L W204 C63's with stickers that said "Only milk and juice come in 2 Liters". Does AMG expect these same buyers to buy the new C63? It's sacrilege.
Wished the Prius 2024 had this much power because it’s also a 4 cylinder too!
Yeah everything you've said is true
If this car had a V8 people would love it, and as a Sport Car it delivers despite the 4cylinder engine... but we can all agree that W20 was the best and not because it was mindblowingly fast, but because of everything and this only lacks what we love a V8
I'd call hypocrisy from those who just hate on this without giving a chance, I was talking to a couple fellas few days and I've said that if the new C63s isn't better than M3 and RS5 because of the engine, then we can all agree that no 3series/4series and rs5/4/3 are better than W204. And then they start yapping, but my point is if this ain't good because of the 4cyl so no m3/m4 and rs3/4/5 is better W204 because it has a V8, right? It is not about the fastest, it is about the engine?
This definitely should've been the CLA powertrain. A 4 cylinder, electric motor assisted powertrain with a 1,000 pound increase makes no sense for a C63. They could've at least made a twin turbo V6 and no electric motors for the same amount of power and a lot less weight.
When i first heard your voice, i thought wait..Jon Jones?
Nope, not buying it - thing is a junk pile that's been failing to launch in the US for over a year. They can't give these away in Europe and the same will happen here. This is a total disaster for MB.
The w204 definitely misses that manual option. Especially since I don’t think Benz figured out the auto better until the w205 era.
Very interesting review, excellent points, perfect length, you’ve got a new subscriber
There is something about the w204 that scratches an itch I have
Haha loved the cheesesteak analogy!
Love these videos
Great review as always…
I am fortunate to own the GLE AMG 63s. The engine is amazing in every aspect as is the comfort, handling, infotainment and esthetic (for an SUV). I can’t imagine Mercedes will keep this 4 cylinder in the more expensive classes
Please review the Lexus LC500! You make such quality videos so to see a video on the Lexus LC500 would be interesting.
Its Amazing that 4 cylinders can now compete with older v8s and v8s in general, but the personality of the v8 is most definitely the most catching part of it
Love this guys videos
Didn't MB/AMG say that they've heard the disappointment from the community and that they'd be returning back to a V8 powertrain by 2026?
As u said in the review I think the badging really is the issue
Its the same with all the brands badging their models with higher displacement numbers than the cars truly got
And I know downsizing and engines with different power stages are making this way more difficult but there must be better alternatives then what they are doing currently
Like with BMW
Nobody asked for the 3.0 engine to be named 40i or now even M40i
30i would’ve been fine like it was the past 35 years and to solve the problem with the 30i and the 20i using both the b48 just call the big one 20i and the small one 18i
To finish it off call the b38 powered version 315i and everybody would be happy
In the past there was 16i models aswell so why should that be a problem
Ofc with the new c63 having a 2.0 engine this is way harder since 20 AMG would sound ass but like I said there must be better alternatives
U could for example try to focus more on the hybrid power or the electronically powered turbo charger
If you want a 4 cylinder track car that sounds good, get an Elantra N, itll be more fun anyways.
This looks so good, Mercedes AMG missed an opportunity to make the best C63 by excluding the V8
How about just AMG C45 SE?… It shares the same drivetrain with the AMG CLA45 and the AMG C43.
AMG C45 SE seems like the only correct answer. Plus AMG uses “SE” (E-Performance) for the V8-hybrid 63 models
Even C53 would be appropriate
Maybe call it the Mercedes EVO!! Mercedes call me, im here all day.
Miles plz can you review the new Glc 43 AMG with 4 cylinders
Would love a review on the CLE 53 AMG
Is basically the same as the BMW and Audi shifters (LIKEWISE) is the company I purchased mine
9:29 delusion
If there is no demand, maybe it will depreciate in value enough for me to purchase it at a great price
If so that's still a win for enthusiasts
Imagine fixing that car...
@@whosdondada I thought about the maintenance and repairs of that thing
Sick whip!!
You're absolutely right, the C63 name should have been retired with the V8.
Could have called it a C45 or 50.
At least it's not a fake AMG like the 43 and 53 models.
Too many car companies failing to realize the nerdy tech stuff doesn't appeal to actual car enthusiasts or performance car enthusiasts at the least I'm never looking or touching my fancy screen and they over complicate doing basic shit.
Great review though appreciate it greatly 😊
10000000000% Agree with the title of the video
If I'm forgoing the soulful sound of a amg v8, I might aswell go all the way go electric.....maybe a tesla or something
That looks like ocean drive in Newport at the start of the video
It was!
@@CarswithMiles I was like hey I know where that is 😂. Great review as always!
it could've been the best C43 I guess
i have decided to buy one due to the sales flop got it brand new for 30k off almost and i have custom badges named c30 and "lost c63" lost soul
How much is that 911 R if it says call for price and the gt3 Rs is $475k.............. GAWDDDD DAMNNNNNN
it should be called C45. Top of the line 4 cylinder amgs were 45 AMGs
AMG A63 E-Performance
As an owner 2 W204 C63's, I can say it's not about the speed all the time. There will always be faster cars. An AMG is supposed to be a blunt object, not smooth lines and elegant. Mercedes has enough electric cars to offset its fuel economy average.
"Miles per gallon"....No pun intended🤪
These New E performance AMG. There's nice but I can already see they're going to be having electrical issues in the future.
Wish we just got just gas powered cars and no electric bs.
Great video!
3:11 do the Diablo SV next
They should have named it the A63 AMG
No such thing as a "right car" this ridiculously heavy, lugging around 2 separate powertrains.
BMW guy but this car is overhated honestly. Maybe it doesnt have the V8, but in 10 years I see it becoming appreciated more. Same thing happens with BMWs.
Also the M3c with xDrive stat wise does keep up with this.
Irl applications, not track, like unprepared launching from traffic stops etc without launch control, instant acceleration all that other stuff
BMW M3 CS owner looking at this Ccrap63: 😮💨
It supposed to be, CLA 45, A45
Those guys in the intro are super handsome
Hi Miles, this could be the A63 XD
I don’t understand the point of the M3 xDrive being unable to keep up with this car in the real world. Based on Car and Driver testing:
M3
0-60 -> 2.8 seconds
1/4 mile -> 11.0 @ 124mph
Curb weight -> 3929lbs
C63S
0-60 -> 2.9 seconds
1/4 mile -> 11.2 seconds
Curb weight -> 4749lbs
All numbers from car and driver are wrong though. None of the two cars does a sub 3 second 0-60.
How about: The C45 AMG... ITS JUST AN A45 WITH A BOOT (TRUNK)👀💁
So the Aston Martin DB12 goes under the bus and the deeply misunderstood and unloved three-motor C63 with a wheezing 4-banger is the mountain on which Miles makes his last stand. Your tastes are, ahem, quite eclectic, sir. Let's see if MB can sell 'em.
I think the DB12 is solid. Just not for $350,000. The C63 could at least get the build quality part right. I wouldn't personally put my money towards either car. But this at least an objectively insane performance car for under $100,000. DB12 is not.
Only reason I'd ever buy it is if it goes for 18k or cars and bids
DO LESS so you can do things better. MB needs to scale back on the headline nonsense so it can focus on the core functions of its AMG cars. These cars don't need rear-wheel steering, save on cost and weight, and focus the engineering dollars on better steering feel. These cars don't need a plug-in hybrid system, save the cost and weight, and focus on a conventional hybrid. These cars don't need a 9-speed transmission, save the cost and weight, and focus on a 7-Speed. If AMG did the three things I just mentioned the C63 could cost $10,000 less, weigh 500 lbs less, and feel more engaging to drive.
should’ve been called the 190e
The corvette e ray IS NOT a pedestrian staple dude
If you could get a Mercedes SLS for free, but you had to party with Diddy, would you?
Not a chance.
We just gonna ignore how the terrible the trunk space is?
Couldn't have said it better myself
calling the v8 soulless is crazy LOL
Cla55 lol don’t say that. That would’ve been wild though. The first 55amg in yrs and it comes out in cla lol
I know Mercs ste never the most reliable long term but this especially makes you wonder how it'll age.
Dont get me wrong. The 4cyl amg is a nice engine. But not for sure c63s. This belongs in a cla 45 amg
Glad I was able to help a little with the video 🫶🫶
Rollers came out great!
3:54 stop making excuses for them they’ll hear you!!! They did it because they chose to. Tons of companies are using v8’s. They didn’t have to!!!
In 10 years people are gonna call it a classic and start wanting it just wait 😂😂😂
Best Mafia looking cars ? 👍
Ayyyye Miles I like u but maaaaaan it's some big claims,....here! The new RS 7 though??? M3 F80. Ahhhh
I promise you man this obliterates an RS7 lol
wrong car with the wrong name is what you mean
AMG!!