Do Not Get Pinned Against A Wall | MMA Technique for Self Defense
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2020
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I’ve practice mma for three months hard then a year on and off and one of the best things I’ve learned is to understand a concept of like an arm bar kamora and all the basic stuff I practice is like two or three tiers higher then some who’s practice as long as me. Cool concept to talk about I think.
What ive learned from all your videos is that if I get attacked by a big professional mma fighter I'm screwed
Knowing your enemy and yourself is half the victory.
That is so wrong. If you are in a ring you should be prepared. If not, use your concealed carry. No firearm? Get one. Democrat? Use your cancel culture to cancel their obvious privilege.
Lmao damn dude who pissed in your cheerios
@@nickarnold1622
Life did. But it made me stronger, so I don't pass on opportunities the eat my cheerios with a little piss.
@@jakeschmidt6665 what if i live in a country where civilians are not allowed to carry firearms?
As someone who never trained wrestling before, this is kinda cool
Start wrestling, it will let you dictate distance.
I would train bjj rather than wrestling but yeah I get what you're trynna say
@@giannibleya7690
I have seen repeatedly the difference between fighters isn't their style, it is the fighter themselves. If a style resonates with you, you can make it work. Also I have noticed in the last decade that bjj schools are becoming the new McDojo. So find a good school that ALWAYS focuses on results, not on the dance.
yup same here
@@vikingbluesbreaker729 I couldn’t agree more. I’ve done bjj for 16+ years. It wasn’t until brown belt that I started taking wrestling more serious and it upped the effectiveness of my game almost instantly.
I really like how Cliff stands there and let stuff happen to him. I don't want to presume things but he looks massive. I think no one in his right mind would try something with him.
until a wild crack addict appears...
@@ImKinni I guess that particular person learns to fly and/or will then collect his/her teeth from the ground.
@@Raz0rking He shall need to go up to the mountains and study the art of Dragon Flying Kenpo Jutsu to collect the teeth then.
Dude you know he strong as fuck too lol
Well mike is a tiny man he is big compared to mike.
Cliff and Jay are built like refrigerators. The scary kind
Surprisingly most times I've fought were in tight spaces like hallways, packed parking lots and trains. It got me thinking, what if they made an MMA tournament with a rectangular hallway-ish shaped cage? How would the techniques change? What fighting styles would be more effective? How fast would matches be? It'd be a super interesting experiment
This is something I would actually watch
I thought about that and what if it was in a wide open field with no walls? Sounds weird but I think about both alot
Theres this mma league in some europe country i seen on youtube, its a team of 4 and theyre in this slim rectangular “ring” is the best way i can describe it, and its like tag based, the first guy goes out and faces the other team till he loses. The one vid i saw the 1st guy on one team took out all 4 dudes on the other team.
I've seen kickboxing matches that were 3 v 3 elimination, in a rectangle ring. And the teammates were in the ring, but only 1v1 could fight at a time.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 yea i think it was probs that then. i also saw one where it was just 4-5 dudes each team and they fucking just go at it lmao, free for all.
For people that don't like when Mike says that MMA is self defence don't forget that the ref tells the fighters at the beginning of every MMA fight to "protect yourself at all times" and the main goal in self defence is to "protect yourself at all times"
The point is MMA isn't on the concrete or in a bar like a street fight is. Also there's no gloves or any protection except for your clothes. I think that a no glove punch is much more devastating than a glove punch. Good luck
@@giannibleya7690 It really isn't, you can't punch anywhere near as hard with your bare hand as you can with a glove. The gloves arent there to protect your opponent they're for your hands
@@giannibleya7690 you're forgetting kicks,elbows,knees,ground game,the clinch and many other aspects of MMA
@@giannibleya7690 Bare knuckles will slash and cut, but you risk damage. With gloves, you can punch harder without the risk of breaking your hand.
@@giannibleya7690 I've been punched by two different attackers in the head on "da streetz". One in the mouth, and one flush to the temple. I was actually surprised how little it hurt and how weak their punches were compared to some of the stuff I've gotten tagged with in training. And I'm not an aspiring MMA fighter or anything, just a casual hobbyist and both guys were bigger than me. But yes, people do get knocked out and die when they hit the pavement. It happens.
Clif is the most intimidating but at the same the most cuddly teddy bear ever hes so innocent
0:55 "Then we would be fighting" lol Cliff is pretty cool
Little tip for that choke escape, with your other hand, grab the meaty part of the thumb and peel it back, this can then leave them open to finger breaks, wrist locks ECT.
Examples of wristlocks and finger breaks from real life please.
Hey mike: just wanna say I really enjoyed your how to "win" at sparring video and it definitely improved my boxing game!
My "win" at the moment is to just land a clean jab at the moment and build off from there
Head position is everything. EVERYTHING!!!
Thanks for addressing this. Love the channel.
Nice video. Have a happy holiday icy mike
Would be interesting to see you getting pinned by Jay as to someone who's untrained but bigger against someone who knows what he's doing but is lighter/smaller.
I mean even if it doesn't work it's nice to know that you can't outwrestle the bigger guy.
Hi, just stumbled across your videos and I really love your sense of humor as well as your no nonsense approach of what works and what is BS you have great energy and a great realistic teaching style. I cannot say enough good things about you and your videos.
Thanks man
Dude, I had such a culture shock about this specific problem when I went from boxing to mma. I never suspected wall-pinning would be such a debilitating thing if you don't know how to get out of it.
These vids are so much in my lane it's hard to find anything to comment, except: Great content, we appreciate it.
I love this one
Lotta people on my block use the technique of trying to pin you against a building or something, they know what they're doing
Mike love your videos. The proper application of force and leverage go a long way and have saved my ass numerous times. I also love it when someone grabs me with both hands to shove/hold/grapple/bjj/wrestle me. It ensures I know where their hands are at all times, so I can strike them so much more effectively, in -painful- fun places. Also when pressed a stepping kick to the ankle or knee can go a long way, even if it isn't debilitating, it will draw attention and create an opening for you, without jeopardizing your stability.
2:03 From here or deep into the wizzer you can put on a nasty armlock but honestly for beginners/self defense you've done a perfect explanation👌
One thing I like about your channel is that you don't just show moves on a weaker opponent
nice video 👍... personally for self defense I use to teach rolling out of the wall...most defenders aren't able to gain control that way
I love your work sir! I would like to see more content on a small person being attack by a large person (female against male) to see if a small female can do these techniques the same as a small male.
hurry up and make the next video i wanna see part 2
Lol we made it months ago!
5:50 mike try it with both hands. Bring the elbows up stick it between the hands and pull down with your lats and sink your body weight. It frees both their hands from you, helps cover your face and you can even pull them into a thai clinch if you're good enough at it. Look at the last move of seiyunchin kata for a reference
You posted this 3 days too late mate :(
I already got stuck at wall in my first MMA class and my 'friend' drew a treasure map on my face with his fists.
Ahh noo I'm sorry to hear😟
Come back with a vengeance and dig for treasure between his teeth.
My first fight I was wrestled against the cage then submitted in the third after I gassed, it happens!!
The "running man" position used in MMA against the cage leaves you very vulnerable to knee strikes to the groin. In our training, we have the foot away from the wall/cage go up front. It's a lot less stable, but pretty much any dummy on the street knows the knee strike to the groin (we do it in training sometimes with very low intensity).
Do a video on knee mobility and getting full range of motion on kicks and punches
Yeah good stuff!
Also when you frame off with your elbow like that you've got a nice opportunity to land some annoying short elbows. Push off a bit, pull back and smack it in there.
Honestly, just knowing how to pummel/fight grips is such a huge advantage to have during a clinch scrap. And many "combat" specialists don't focus on minutae like that.
Edit: Also, Jay would be a BAD dude if he actually trained on a regular basis.
Cliff for Streetbeefs!
Heck yeah. Easy work
Great. Osu
7:42 jay be like "it aint going to be that bad"
you can still headbutt when your locked in a position where you can't punch, saved me a few times
I kinda see those escapes at 3:09 and 4:00 as possible head kick set ups
That’s what I call a Christmas gift
another point about walls. they are very hard most of the time in 'da streetz'. if someone wants to press you into the wall use their ambitions with the addition of a sidestep/pivot/level change and bash their entire shit with the side of a building. a very possible broken shoulder/collar bone or just a straight up k.o.
that concept is most useful in the starting phases of the movement rather than when you are vying for position already smashed together like two ducks in heat or something
yeah upon rewatching there are time your boys are already bashing their head into the wall. assist them vigorously!
You take all the good ideas and you name is Mike, fuck! Nice work, I find that overhook or underhook is a great tool in these situations.
can you do a video about the spar bar??
I was taught the elbow move when I was in a Goju Ryu class.
Quite agree. Last two time I got clapped, my back was against something.
Whizzer and HEADFIGHT!! (I dont mean headbutt either) If you're caught in double-unders, a deep whizzer will turn their body and make space to pummel for the underhook on the opposite side. Now you got over-under... much better...
Headfight and pivot your position out from here, watchout for that reap while your steer 'em...
That way to get out of a choke is actually usefull
I haven't done a lot of wall sparring, but I have a little bit, and it never bothered me. From a grappling perspective, its just a vertical floor. Lol.
Also, I never felt that much in trouble. I did this with a pro fighter(light sparring) and I was still only like 6-7 months in my mma training(wrestling background), and even though I could feel the pressure, i felt fine. Hes the one using energy to keep me on the wall, so I let his strength hold me up so I don't have to worry about my balance, and I can heel "chop" him. We actually stalemated on the wall for a while, neither of us wanted to lose or give up our reasonably decent position...on both ends. Lol.
Might not work on the streets but I remember when the good old foot stumps started coming in in MMA when you was pushed up against the cage they really do suck lol
Mandela Effect.
@@hard2hurt lol I just had to look that up
Do you have any videos that oriented for newer people?
What adjustments do you need to make in mma for the street ??
Bite hair pull and eye attack are the most under used defenses. UFC John BONES Jones is known for eye pokes because it works on everyone.
I feel like I should ask about the double-under and out to the face way of escaping. Am I wrong?
5:01 Have been in this exact situation for real, a guy at a cousins party (several beverages were consumed) who was a fair bit heavier than me grabbed me in a double choke while pushing me back into a wall
It happened so fast my head bounced against the surface but out of instinct I had also started twisting my body and somehow had got into a slightly more bladed stance
Just as he was settling his weight forward to really pin me, I threw a right at his chin. I thought I was a real hero and had dropped him but a friend grabbed him from behind at the same time I hit him and then dragged him to the ground lol
The worst part is I had trained a fancy double choke defense in karate for maybe 8 years at that point and never got to try it out. Still never have
Hey mike. With the elbow drop make smaller movements it makes it more effective. And use you entire body to drop
I train “FoR tHe StReEt” and this is literally the first thing I teach people c’mon now 😂😂
is the podcast still on?
i gotta legit question to ask
Cliff is a MAN
It’s so funny
I teach that choke defense
When I create my system it will be in there.
Yeah definitely works. I've done Krav Maga quite some time ago and indeed, from all the questionable techniques, this was really legit.
Can you pull guard?
Yo yo Chief, been training BJJ for 3 years prior to COVID. Was thinking about starting judo because my standup skills blow but want to learn for self defense reasons too. Should I start training Judo or find an MMA gym ?
What do you think of a cresent wrench as a self defense tool? Its something that can hit anywhere and cause pain, its one handed, small enough to not have to change the way you fight, inconspicuous enough that no one would ask why you have a wrench and secure enough that you don't have to worry about it being taken from you. If worse case you could also throw it and run away. Idk maybe mechanic martial arts the new mma
But I like The Wall. Its a great Pink Floyd Album
The best way to learn this kinda stuff . . . GROW UP WITH OLDER BROTHERS!
My only question is if you can get your hand down to there inner thigh to help spin them why not just knife hand there nuts and call it an day ? Maybe you could do an video using an cup and demenstrat when groin shots are most effective would be interesting
Question. Out if curiosity. If I have someone against the wall or whatever it may be. Is there efficacy in or an ability to break that clench and initiate striking sort of like boxing or is it the wrestling hold gonna be the be all end all to this situation untill the situation changes? (Excited for the next video if you can't tell lol)
6.10 load weight right foot turn into right hand strike surely
ahhhh, as an ex-kravist who was like "I think that rotational choke defense has value but I think it exposes your back" and being told "nah you're just doing that because you're trained" and thinking I was crazy, thank you.
Damn, now I need to adapt my escapes to work when pinned against the wall since so far all I been training is the escape from the r**echoke when pinned against the wall.
Granted with yellow belt we only train the real basics, but then again The Basics are kinda the ones you're mostly likely going to get caught with and you kinda need to be fast with em.
Would have kinda liked to see what you guys do, when attacker manages to push you against the wall AND push your arms up and against the wall...
"Knee to the nuts"-time?
Does anyone know why my big knuckle on my dominate hands hurts so bad all the time I have knuckle guards and wraps not sure if I am wrapping wrong anyone know?
Might need to take some time off with that hand.
@@hard2hurt thank you 🙏
Wait does clog fight in mma or kickboxing?
When you turn, start the turn by using your hips and not you shoulders, it will be more powerful.
Nice. So what I see is the theme of ganging up on a limb (i.e. two arms on a one arm, or one arm on a distal joint). Question: why the heck would I be trying to lock a guy the size of that guy with the dreads against a wall? I would already be about 100 meters away in a full dash. Wrestling big guys is just an exercise in futility and usually ends badly...
How tall are you
Quick question: Wouldn't that krav maga elbow choke scape thingy at 5:30 get you headbutted in the face? All those times Cliff's forehead was pretty close to your face and that's just from your elbow thing, with no intention from him. I guess you could put your chin down at the same time you use the elbow and headbutt HIM in the face, but I dunno... Seems kinda sketchy and like it would get you from a being choked situation to a still being choked and now also having a broken nose/being halfway KO situation...
Oh right i should have just used a counter that has zero downsides...
@@hard2hurt Hahaha, I love your style, but don't be a dick about it, lol! Actually I'm just learning and when I tried this in (begginers) class, I promptly made my classmate give me a headbutt in the nose haha. I just wanted to ask without sounding like a moron who doesn't know how to fight, but I guess the cat's out of the bag now...
I have become a professional street fighter after learning all this during quarantine
Nah man you're just a criminal
Nice, Jason lol
bottom line:just ACCEPT the fact it's BALLS 2 THE WALL in "the streets" & nobody gets da biz!
heh.
Out of curiosity, can you now claim your suv as a business expense since it was used as a training tool for your classes?
Do not get cornered in mortal kombat tekken and street fighter
It like a chess game f it peper spray 2 the eyes 😀
Does anyone else think Cliff is aging in reverse?
(Start of the video until the end) It feels wrong... why is the bigger guy getting pinned on the wall not the smaller guy??
If I’m ever being mashed against the wall, usually a loud, smelly fart gets your attacker off you fast!!
Mike I quit muay thai and ...DeCiDeD tO do AiKiDo
Gracies have been teaching wall defense for years.
Fly to Russia and get Khabib for the next video
Second
Third
Alternate title: Using the Street in Street Fighting - THE WALL
Serious comment, I dont think the two handed rape choke is as common when against the wall. Feels more like a thing some domestic abuser would do if theyre mounted on top. A big dude doing a one handed "bad ass" choke maybe. But the two handed grab against the wall feels more like the "bully classic" where they grab the clothes and ram them in the wall with the whole intimidation thing you know?
Real talk someone did that one handed choke at my place of work during an argument. I was out on a lunch run when it happened though. I found out when I got back and got told he was moving to a different department.
The edit was me taking out profanity
Who says knowing krav maga is a limitation? Every option exists in battle, increase your opportunity for luck by being prepared for opportunity.
The techniques need to be broken down and explained clearly. This is only coherent to other gym instructors probably.
This video is helpful but the guy that looks like a silverback is way bigger than both of you. Like 100lbs on mike and 50 lbs on jay. It would be better if he was pushing both of you against the wall and you escape.
Idk, jay is untrained? That was a couple reps right there. Hes gettin that secret training on camera. Lol.
First!
Ey this fool ignored me on instagaram
yall really dont care about covid
Why that black dude look like he'd rather be somewhere else. He dont look like he should be in front of a camera.
First! I felt a compelling need to tell the world, sorry.
Icy mike is lame.