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Science vs religion. Ricky Gervais on belief and atheism what are your thoughts. Part two.
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2022
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Religion and science both offer explanations for why life and the universe exist. Science relies on testable empirical evidence and observation. Religion relies on subjective belief in a creator.
"You are accepting that, because someone told you".
A perfect description of the Bible, Preachers and Christians.
Where science is different is evidence.
Most ppl accept all sorts of science just because someone told them that it's like that because it's like that..i mean, no offense but most of these online science fans are functionally illiterate when it comes to it
Its interesting how a person can make a statement like that and not see how it applies to there beliefs that wasnt even there own conclusion it was indoctrinated into them
Exactly, we accept science because it's based on evidence
@@trailman20no, we accept science because we can go out and do the tests ourselves. No one tells us what to believe, they show the evidence and explain their beliefs, but they show you evidence to determine for yourself
@@5ives_the_penguin well that was my point ..science isn't a belief it can be duplicated by anyone as apposed to someone being told something in a book is true with zero proof and no way to show proof ..if from your very birth I was to tell you the story of snow white and the seven dwarfs was true you would grow up believing it's true ..same as Santa or the Easter bunny
“This is why I’m a good boy” 😂🤣😂💀💀💀
The only statement I believe
Science is something that can proved repeatedly with the same results. That's what makes it a sure thing when done right
You misunderstand science. Science seeks to falsify, not prove.
@@DanielOrtiz-dl8eo ahhh, I assume you believe the earth is flat as well? Only science taught us its round and if you believe science is fake then you believe the earth is flat and as far as I've learned, only people with no common sense believe that.
@@MrMD-xd1tc you must lack comprehension skills.... is english your second language? I didnt say science is fake... it seeks to falsify.. that doesn't mean its fake... try again.
@@DanielOrtiz-dl8eoeh kind of yes it does seek to falsify but because of that falsification we are here from hunter-gatherer to brilliant beings
for ex in the old times
People used to believe thunder was cauaed as a result of gods rage
but thankfully there was an individual born named Sir Benjamin Franklin Who wasnt scared to oppose this idea and finally falsified the god anger theory and showed us the truth of electric friction
Imagine if he hadnt gone against the relogious beliefs we would probably be staying in the dark most of the times
@@DanielOrtiz-dl8eono it doesn't, try again.
Science is like a maze. You may go down the wrong path but then you learn from your mistakes and continue making progress.
“Progress” means you don’t know the truth - and modify it as you go along. How is that science? Einstein has been proven wrong. The Big Bang is nonsense.
@@BabyBoomerChannel The definition of progress is forward or onward movement toward a destination.
@@_flyingspaghettimonster_ damn sometimes being "smart" is a negative, harmful thing and you just proved it. This guy explained himself perfectly but the clot in your brain trolled you.
W pfp.
R'amen
I am here to read this confirmation
Way too many religious nuts in the world, the science process is all we need to progress.
Yeah because the science process really helped us with Covid right? As soon as people started questioning what was going on, they became censored and blocked. So like other crooked religions it has its leaders now misleading others. Every stupid atheist in the world nods and claps at everything their leader say without even taking the time to look it up for themselves. Evolved a monkey brains playing monkey see monkey do.
Science alone is not enough. We have to develop ethics and that requires human jugdement and decision. But the basis for those decisions should not be scriptures, but facts.
Mortality and ethics have nothing to do with religion
@@Weserman75that's part of science genius
Without the religious nuts, we wouldn't have science.
And people believe in gods because they were told so.
Because they are stupid and don t think for them self. God and Jezus are the biggest Fantasy story ever written. People who believe can t handle the truth
No, no, no. A lot of people have natural faith. Nothing to do with what's learnt or been told. Faith as nothing to do with religion. Ricky is obsessed with it though. Every interview without anyone bringing it up, he goes on and on about it. I think he is a genius comedian though.
Bullshit. I''ve had my third eye squeegeed clear with the help of Mother Ayahuasca and understand that this current Newtonian paradigm we are indoctrinated into from birth, that depends on reductionist science and materialism to rationalize it, is merely just another 21st century belief system. The notion that we are all lumbering robots separate from each other is a myth. Separation is an illusion as everything is vibration in its purest form. Energy is not created or destroyed only assumes different states. The brain doesn't create consciousness and is more of a reducing valve that's function is to filter out only what is necessary perpetuate the ego while we incarnate this physical form. Science can only function from within this framework as a measurement tool. I know the felt the presences of direct experience. It made me understand that everything is an interconnected web of relationships governed by an inherent intelligence that is the essence of all sentience. "We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively" as Bill Hicks noted. We are that eternal essence that has existed before our birth and will continue after our physical "death", it has no beginning or end since time is a construct of the brain. That is why when science uses quantum physics to try and reduce things down to their smallest components it always comes to the "measurement problem". The simple act of observation effects behavior. "I don't need to believe. I know" Carl Jung Modern science is in its infancy in its understanding the nature of reality and will never in itself be complete in doing so.
@@glenndouglas8822..."Faith cometh.by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
God's word is what brings about faith in him. And there's a good reason for that. Everyone believes something that they've been told, so it's either believe God or don't. Very simple. However, one must consider the consequences.
@@JOHNch4.v.v.7to10 All I said was I was born with faith.
That Colbert guy is so upset someone questioned the existence of his imaginary friend.
As imaginary as you are
@@tomster7574 Sure!
Ricky talked about something that Christians have a hard time with and that’s logic.
@@tomking7080 🤦♂️🤦♂️ just cuz you and him dont get it,,,,
How can an Atheist trust his own thoughts anyway. They are just chemicals in his brain.
Where are the religious people I thought it was going to be a-war in the comment section I must of came to soon .There's a whole war down there
Maybe people are starting to realize religion isn't real.
I am leaving a comment here so I can came here when someone say anything about your commet 😂
😂😂😂
this funny hehe, yes. Everyone opening their third eye lmao. Religion is just a more positive form of boost to ego which doesn’t exist.
@@makeracistsafraidagain yea cuz science can answer ALL of our questions, like how nothing somehow became smth and the origin of the first self replicating cell without the help of the DNA. Ricky is just a comedian and he is being interviewed by an ignorant. His cute answers might fool a lot of people but bigger athiests like Richard Dawkins have admitted that you can see the signature of a designer in how life began on earth
I love how this exactly played out with the Pythagorean Theorem being found on a tablet 1000 years older than Pythagoras.
Boy people who are convinced they're going to live on for all eternity sure do get upset when you bring up the possibility that maybe they Won't be doing that.
Wrong
@@lsd8497 wrong
@@lsd8497 if your going to say wrong pls give a counter argument very simple minded to just say wrong
You don't 'believe in' science, you just do it.
Science is the only discipline that in order to improve ,you have to prove it wrong...
Gervais is wrong because he over simplifies. Science isn't always true. And eventually a theory that holds for decades or centuries may be disproved or at least modified.
We have had two years of Faith Based "Science".
@@markhutton6055But that's just human error, just like how religion is plagued by human error. At the end of the day nature can always be backed by science if given enough time and proper study.
@@Suckmuh Religion is manmade, just like scientific studies. God doesn't require a religion, he was not created by man.
Science is based upon the properties of the world we live in. Why assuming that the evolution of the universe and life is constant and not changing. The logical assumption must be that science evolves and changes just as everything else changes, slowly over time. When the earth is gone, science as we know it is gone too.
Science on a planet in the andromeda galaxy is probably totally different than ours.
Wow, this is a new view point to me and amazing.
Not really. Man has been trying destroy Christianity for nearly 2000 years and it somehow always comes back to be the worlds largest religion
1) Nothing is ever proven scientifically. Science is advanced ny _disproving_ ideas. If it is proofs you seek, I suggest mathematics.
2) To argue that if we destroyed every science book and destroyed them, they'd all be exactly as they were 1,000 years later is to make an unfalsifiable claim...which itself is unscientific.
Never underestimate how hard people will cling to their religion
When you die and if you're wrong, well... Hell is only for eternity.
@@veruspatri it's sad because to truly believe that must be terrifying
... and what do you cling to? People who tell us everything comes from nothing and that men can be women?
@@meg2231 stop celebrating Christmas my atheist friend 😉
@@arturs1993 Why? Christmas is about people, not religion.
People who fail math make a whole ass religion outta it.
Just wait until you see numerology and how it is evidence for a creator.
Atheism for the win
Atheism for the loss
Your boy who believes in science and atheism cowered in fear when the magic word "satan" was mentioned. Now who's a good boy?
@@vincenolien8379 god and satan pretty much religion are words for people that don’t have faith in themselves of the impending end of their life since nothing happens after your dead.
@@GodIsADog Another good boy! Keep it up!
@@vincenolien8379 is that what all the pedo priests say to their church boys?
I'm not here to really argue or confirm Ricky's point. It's actually a very good point. But at least in my experience, as a Christian, I can't see this as something that will come back. The Bible, and other forms of religious text such as the Qaran and The Book of Mormon, are considered, religiously, as history books. In the New Testament of the Bible, the books are written from the perspective of those that witnessed what Jesus had done. And I don't think there's anything wrong living like Jesus. Those that trying to chastize non-Christians are those that don't live like Him.
Love the subtle ‘any holy book or any other fiction’. That’s how to win debates
So calling something fiction without any evidence for such a claim is how you win debates? Sounds more like a non argument based off of mere opinion, rather than any evidence.
Colbert turned into the thing he used to mock...
He always has been the thing he used to mock.
What Ricky is saying could be applied to history exactly the same- the Roman empire isn't going to happen again but the stories about it aren't fake.
The Roman empire isn't a theistic religion either
History is not science in the same way as laws of gravity and heat and such.. you didnt understand a bit of what he said
You can say that about any facts verified by historians though. If all information for any historical event was somehow hypothetically destroyed, it wouldn't come back the same since the events took place in the past. You can't recreate those events. Doesn't change the fact those events took place.
We all believe what historians tell us about other historical time periods/events/figures (ex. Alexander the Great, the Roman empire, etc.) and yet historians have gathered in many instances significantly less evidence (for example those aforementioned topics; ATG or the Roman Empire) than they have for many books in the new testament of the bible.
Science and religion (which deals with history and philosophy) are two completely different things. So Ricky Gervais' comparison here doesn't make sense. Whether you believe the 30 something authors of the bibles testimonies (which are verified by both biblical and secular historians as likely authentic personal accounts And not made up stories/forgeries) on their interaction with whom they believed is God is up to you.
But to call those books works of fiction has been proven as most likely false - by the same historian methods used to verify our commonly held beliefs in secular historical events/figures.
I've never understood the God vs. science argument. Could it be that God is the creator of science? Science is a condition created by God.
I’m surprised Stephen Colbert still has a show!
I find Colbert’s comment at the end very revealing.
Jesus and Santa
Omg this video is just banter between two genuinely funny guys
@@theFLRN Omg !, their bantering's about a subject people have killed others for, for the last two thousand years.
@@verresmilliterres and that says something about them only if you want it to.
Every history book destroyed will never come back the same again.
Was thinking the exact same thing
History is not science. It is the recording of events in time.
@@williamclinard2438 Sadly you missed the point, religion needs to be proven historically.
Of course specially since the info is lost how we can recover it? Without records we wouldn't even know if some historical event hapened. (sure, physical objects other than books may help) but here Gervais was talking about things like astronomy, math, biology and he was right. History is another animal.
We can't change what is. Or was, don't worry about science being against religion, it's not.
I’d like to ask Ricky if he would do an ouija board . To see if he thinks any supernatural is possible .
This gives me "tide comes in tide goes out you don't understand that" vibes TV talk show personalities really just need to leave science alone.
Tides aren't from god, ill tell you that much
Ricky is well informed tho
Unless it's liberal science. Which is usually disproved about every 2 years.
Science is not political. Science itself is kind of like a maze. It may go down the wrong path but then it learns from its mistakes and progresses towards the truth.
As said by someone who thinks a political ideology has dibs on science and doesn't know science is a methodology specifically about disproving or verifying the info we had yesterday. 🧐
Whatever makes u feel better about not being able to acknowledge inconvenient facts i guess
But by that logic, you could say any single person from history never existed by destroying any documentation (factual or not) that they did 🤔 interesting argument, but flawed logic… science generally will always be observable, so really not the best argument, even though it sounds good
I don't know about schools these days or in other countries than my own, but we were not only told stuff, we did experiments and tested things so we could verify them ourselves. Aren't students allowed to do that in schools everywhere?
Well said
No, it isn't.
Nothing he said is actually true, or correct.
"Science" is a process, not a thing.
In a thousand years time, the same tests, and the same results would not "come back", because the answers "science" produces, changes CONSTANTLY.
The talking points of Atheists sound good, but are total nonsense. If think through any of then beyond surface level, they decintigrate.
There is a reason M theory, and String Theory exists. Because relativity has serious issues, and as scientists learn more and more, the theory of relativity becomes less and less reliable.
"Science is constantly proved all the time". Is a stupid, ignorant, statement to make. Again, "science" is a process. It can't be "proved", it can only be used.
Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. It deals in moral, ethical, and spiritual, issues. It is not antithetical to "science". Atheists trying to use "science" to "disprove" religion, is just dumb, and a waste of time and energy.
Only issue I have with this, is that most people embrace science as a religion.
They don't do the tests themselves.
They don't do the critical thinking.
They don't even cross reference what they're told.
They're told:
1. I'm a scientist from this organization that you literally never heard of until five seconds ago but you'll pretend you have heard of it because everyone else is acting like they've heard of it.
2. The sky is green, we've done extensive studies that we won't show you, and those studies have been peer reviewed by other scientists and organizations you've never heard of, and now it's a settled fact that the sky is green. Don't believe what your eyes are telling you, you're not educated enough to understand what you're seeing, TRUST THE SCIENCE, and I AM THE SCIENCE!
That's literally the extent of what, for example, Covid was, where it came from, and what we should do to deal with it, and if you dared ask questions, or bring up the science that was objective science prior to the pandemic, about things like natural immunity, herd immunity, how masks actually work, or anything like that, you'd be, in so many ways, bullied into submission.
People's blind trust in "experts" is no less a religion than anything else. If we were to burn everything they said about Covid, most of it would never come back, because it wasn't true.
So l suppose your " science" embraces talking animals, virgin births , walking on water , feeding multitudes with two fish and a loaf .... Ok . I will stick with my
" Science".
Sure good point always question but to sone degree u have to trust impossible to disprove advanced science if you're a commoner, the good thing in science is that there is a lot of debate and scientists doing challenges between themselves to reach a consensus, Einstein for example made a LOT of mistakes! Science recognizes that now.
🤦♂️
Our solar system travels through space at 420,000 mph, we travel around the sun at 67,000 mph, we spin on our axis at 1,000 mph, and we are supposed to believe one of 3,000 worshipped gods created this?
Yes my good sir. Yes.
@@GreenMegaEthan, intelligent people do not believe in fictional beings
Based on what evidence? @@GreenMegaEthan
@oasis67 Based on the Ohioan butthole tickler. He prefers kids that haven't pissed for the last 3 hours.
This doesnt apply to islam, millions have it memorized and it literally cannot be erased.
well lets say if those people grow old and forget without passing it on will it come back?
They cant even name a single person who memorizes it💀😂
I truly feel for ppl that believe all the bs religion...I understand jus no longer existing is a hard concept to grasp but it is what it is
I’m one of those people…no need to feel bad for me I’m living pretty well.
@@OrangutanGames713 facts! We don’t need his sorrow. I can say I feel sorry for people who don’t believe there is a God and turning into fertilizer at death is their only end goal 😂
@@joshuacooperseo that is a crazy assumption lol, the only difference between a believer and an atheist/agnostic is that the latter values proof and truth instead of faith
Even all the science books don't come back :( we have experienced it in our culture.
It’s not about the book coming back, but the same way of thinking and solving problems will eventually give the same results as the science books that were destroyed.
Value of zero will be zero today and 1000 year from today every science book comes back today or tomorrow
400 years before Galileo India had 4 theories obleque earth ,round earth, flat earth and concave earth and they were all distroyed by invaders and in 400 years Galileo re discovered that earth is round that's how science works.
@@anshulbhardwaj4038 no that’s not how it happened. The Greeks had documentation and had absolute mathematical proof the earth was round since 240 B.C.
@@kevinspears10531 you are missing the point church does not agree what Greeks believed.
Ricky gervais at it again, science is not in competition with the bible. All science textbooks would come back because there are just formulas to be rediscovered, the bible wont come back because it’s a historical account. You can destroy Julius Caesars memoirs and they won’t be rewritten, that doesn’t mean he didn’t exist and those accounts never took place 🙄 you can have faith in both you know. I’m agnostic and even I understand that 🤦🏻♂️
His show was better on Comedy Central, but this Ricky was brilliant here
Drop the 🖐🏻🎤
My fucking hero!
You like to watch short chubby men fuck. You be you pal
Woah this comment section is full of people who can vote and they have the same amount of braincells together as a single mushroom
Why is it that you can question science, and it’s encouraged to deepen our knowledge, but you can’t dare question the existence of a god?
Cause is a method of control, all major religions have lots of power and money and questioning their fairy tale deity is bad for business.
because we question physical existence and prove it we question a non physical existence and aren't able to prove it
@@armandogavilan1815 very true
He is the best boy
Pfft, you wouldn't study science from a book written just 100 years ago. It's completely out of date. Scientific truth is constantly changing.
That wasn't good, it was (hor- rible). He literally told you at the beginning of the clip that his presumption was that religion is false. If your presumption is that a particular religion is true, then the argument falls apart.
The argument can still be true, wether or not he is religious or not.
Folks, we are living in Revelation
Not quite. Not yet. But very soon.
Hahahha
God is real
santa clause too!
God is fake. It s the first fantasy story ever written.
Don't forget the tooth fairy
Dog is real too
Easter Bunny 🐰
Wasn’t that long ago science said earth was flat
And take a look at medical science a 1000 years ago
And faith and religion has beliefs of a higher power existed long before the Bible
You're make his point! Science has adapted in the time since. It has questioned and learned.
Yeah but philosophy, physcology, economic system would be different
The main difference between faith in God, the Bible and science is that science is constantly being redrawn and proven wrong and have to retract their theories and put forth new ones, constantly. The Bible has been the same since it was written. I came to the conclusion that science, tho a vast well of information and knowledge, for all intents and purposes is limited. Faith in God shows you that there are answers beyond what is humanly possible to explain, faith gives you answers where science hits a wall.
No, faith doesnt give you answers, faith is nothing more than your own beliefs that you project as fact based on no evidence whatsoever.
But people take every science theory as a fact as well, and when people question that theory, people get pissed..
Do you even know the definition of a scientific theory?
You're confusing a theory with an hypothesis. What you call theory in everyday speech is called a hypothesis in science. A hypothesis is an idea that can explain facts but doesn't have enough supporting evidence. A theory is an idea that explains facts that does have enough evidence backing it.
Here's how it goes: scientists discover something, they come up with a hypothesis to explain what caused that something. Then they do experiments to see if they can prove the hypothesis. If enough evidence backing the hypothesis comes up from the experiments, the hypothesis becomes a theory. If little to no evidence comes up from the experiments, the hypothesis stays an hypothesis. If in the experiments they find evidence that directly contradicts the hypothesis, the hypothesis becomes bullshit. Now you understand?
Apples and oranges. Is he talking about Aristotelian science or Einstein's science? Is he talking about quantum mechanics or Einstein's relativity? Some science is in conflict with each other and is mutable.
Ironically aristotle has been proven wrong on multiple subjects, Same with Einstein.
The reality is what separates science and religion is the former is always open to change.
@@Jasontvnd9 Stop saying religion. Religion is man made, our creator isn't. The funniest part is that you think God fearing people don't have the same complaints about religion(s).
@@lisaac9477 wtf are you talking about?
@@Jasontvnd9 Well, I'm sure what I wrote wasn't hard to comprehend. Not sure how I can make it simpler for you?
@lisaac9477 The part that made no sense is that you tried to separate a creator from religion.
Do you have faith in a particular religion or just think there's a creator.
The later means nothing on the impact to your life....the former has a direct impact on how you live your life.
Either way look at the title of the video and stop trying to weasel around the subject.
No, it wouldn't. The science of today is different than the science of 100 years ago. Science is what we think we know today. God, however, is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
You missed the difference between established science and progress.
@@benjimain6 established or settled science is complacency. We don't even know how gravity works.
@@chipbryant9477 yea, ofc we don't know everything yet 😅
We do know a lot that will be the same in many years tho. Science is an ever growing industry. Not a cheap claim of knowing it all.
@@chipbryant9477but we know it exist
Actually, no, because there is no science fact. Every science "fact" is based on a science theory.
Just no.
'that's good, that's very good'
as if he's just done a clever magic trick or told a clever lie...
no it isn't a clever gottcha point it is just facts.
Not true. Man is still trying to understand and rediscover technologies and sciences lost by ancient civilizations, like Greek Fire and Archimedes Mirror. So not everything comes back.
If no one believes in God or Satan, look up this book called the Ars Goetia, it was written by King Solomon of Jerusalem, it contains instructions how to summon over 75 different Demons, if you don't believe me then try it, you will question reality once you study the Occult
At least with science you can build off the foundations again and demonstrate it. It’s not perfect especially the more technical and precise we try to measure things, but it is constantly questioned and revised. How many theories had to be scrapped before where we got now is a tru achievement.
Religion is a constant, faith in science is lunacy, science created fossil fuels, plastics, and the bombs we use but never are held responsible, but you blame religion for horrible things through out history but give science a pass
Science can't even prove itself... we barely know what gravity is.
The word proof only applies to the laws of mathematics. Science is based on a bunch of theories and presumptions.
It's funny, the more learn about the universe through Science, the more we learn about God.
Cosmological argument for God's existence.
Damnit Ricky! Stop trying to talk reason to my believers. If all my believers stopped believing in me, I would cease to exist.
We are ALL detectives in search of the best explanation for the origins of life.
Even Atheists , who falsely claim to lack a belief, have to believe in something. It’s impossible not to believe in anything, and honestly it would be dumb.
Therefore Atheists believe that living beings originated from non living things. Immaterial things like your soul, your mind , your thoughts and your feelings, they say they are the result of purely chemical reactions. This is anti-scientific as it goes against any observable proof and replicable experiment.
They believe that incredibly complex strands of DNA code came to be in perfect and right order through casual and random mutations. It’s like believing that a beautiful and complex poem was put together throwing random letters on the floor for a billion times.
They believe that evolution and natural selection explain the intelligent design away. Yet these processes In order to function they must follow intelligent and precise laws , laws that no one wrote, apparently. Mathematically precise and replicable laws that came to be randomly , that emerged from chaos. That is illogical.
These are the absurdities an atheist must believe.
These are theories that atheist scientists and “intellectuals” put forth in their books. I read most of them.
They are not looking for the objective truth - they are looking for an alternative to God.
To believe all those things you gotta have MORE FAITH than to just believe in a beautifully engineered universe created by a powerful intelligent Designer, as we can clearly see all of us.
Who’s the Believer, honestly ??
Science gets excited when you prove it wrong. Religion gets offended. This should tell you all you need to know.
Well if religion was real then what he says is actually wrong. If god could send prophets the first time he could most assuredly do it the second time. The real question would be would it be the same tho? This guy here pointing out worldly truths doesn’t mean spiritual truths aren’t the same also. U can’t know since it’s never been tested so don’t say u know the answer.
Gravity is an absolute because science said so....
🙄🙄🙄
I'm pretty sure science doesn't say that.
What do you even know the definition of gravity
@@DavidOG. do you know that gravity isn't an absolute and can change depending on many factors?
Do you understand the definition 🤔
Because science is still in the dark about gravity. Probably not the best example to use as a universal constant.
I'm just wondering why he lumps holy books with fiction? I would be more inclined to compare the Bible with a biography.
It s bullshit the hole bible. Walking on water or changing it into wine. If you believe that you must be stupid
A biography written by a lot of different people, in different languages that were later translated, and most of them with zero personal knowledge of the person, if he indeed even existed.
It’s fiction because it was made up.
Well if you burned all books in the world the only book that would be able to be produced the same as it was one day aftet would be the Quran. The reason behind it is that there are milions of people who memorized the Quran by heart
No, it will not Science is particularly an artform too Or at least the still of writing will change science books from the 20th, 19th, and 18th centuries are all different.
Science has been proven wrong Rick.
Science literally hasn’t been proven wrong
There r things in science that have been proven wrong but not science as a whole
Religion on the other hand is proven wrong all the time
Every theory we know now, could be wrong in the future. It could be proven by a better theory and that’s how science works.
The prophesies of the Bible are constantly proved over time too. Revelation 16:12 says that the Euphrates River will dry up. The Euphrates River is drying up now, is it not?
Jesus is the only prophet (Who was the Son of the Living God, the Creator) that died (on the cross for our sins) and came back to life 3 days later. Then He ascended into Heaven shortly after. Every other prophet is still buried in the ground. I believe in Jesus. I don't want to go to hell. God is Life. Hell is the absence of God. No air, no light, no love, no joy or happiness. Hell is the eternal place of torment. What have you got to lose? Everyone takes a permanent dirt nap one day.
The good news is that we don't have to be good or perfect to believe or talk to Jesus. He died for us sinners, and I've broken every single commandment. We don't get to Heaven by being good, but my repenting. (Repenting is telling His you're sorry and admitting you've done things that are wrong and asking for God's forgiveness, accepting Jesus died on the cross). It's really not to much to ask, is it? Then you don't even have to be perfect. If you're genuinely sorry when talking to God, He'll change your heart. He is real and He is alive, and if you ask Him to prove it He will.
I'm sick, and I don't know if I'll get better. I'm sad but I'm at peace knowing there room for me in Heaven if I don't get better.
I know, it sounds too easy. That's just it. It really is that easy. Matthew 18:2 in the Bible says Jesus asks that we believe in Him with a child-like faith.
I'd like to see every soul in the world there one day. There's enough run for everyone. Please try. Just just talk to Him. He hears you.
If you confess them to Him (you don't have to confess your sins in front of people), He IS faithful and just to forgive you . And It doesn't matter how good or how bad you are. ✝️🤍🕊️
Science does change findings. Just like medicine, it keeps changing and evolving.
The truth does not.
If "science" changes, it was never true in the first place.
He's referring to fundamental principles..
God created science and everything you see. End of story. The creation isn't greater than the Creator.
who created god ?
God created science... And Ricky isn't going to hell.
The problem for most people seeking God, is that they are often put off by all the weird 'so called Christians' who worship a book rather than worshipping God... The real word of God is written on the hearts of all people and woven into nature.
Nope, sorry dude. That is your you own belief and faith that youre projecting as fact based on no evidence, that is the truth.
Yep, till u experience something science can't ever explain. Science is your religion. Science used to say the Earth was flat also.
Dont call science a religion, they are nothing alike.
We say that and forget that pyramids were built with very different “science”. The supposed concrete facts to explain the world don’t seem to hold up well over time or closed to intepretation.
Except that science isn't focused on morality. Science is supposed to be the facts but look at how science is bent for political reasons like many argue religion is. Science can be your God too.
Science cant be about moral cos morals arent based on facts. They are based on ideology.
You don’t need a book to tell you to be good or bad . Even kids understand the difference
Nonsense then why are all religions saying the same stuff
Yeah, science books now look just like they did 1000 years ago and the same as they will in another 1000.. oh wait. The point of the Scriptures is that we can learn from what has already been revealed to us and was true all along. There's value in their constancy. Yes we're learning new things all the time through science, however we also realize then many of the things that we thought "learned" from science were wrong. There's necessary value in both, and Ricky is naive to dismiss Scripture simply because we also need Science.
Yet no one can explain gravity fully.
But people always seem to use this theory when they want to explain something that's simple and understood.
You are 108 years behind in your physics readings.
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Newton explained how gravity works perfectly without ever knowing what caused it.
Mass bends space time yeah.
But why does that cause gravity?
I'll wait for a coherent response.
@@treborobotacon And as proof of what I said you think I was talking about Newton.
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It's obvious that newton did know what caused gravity.
However not many people talk about how Einstein also failed to explain the cause of gravity fully.
@@treborobotacon I'll bet you've never opened a book on general relativity in your life. Am I wrong?
You are looking for an excuse to rationalize your belief in an invisible being with magical powers. If so I'll give you a hint, what you want is called "presuppositional apologetics".
You be strong and die without God. You don't need a Savior because sin cannot be proven. Trust in the fools and jokers. I am too weak to live or die without God. I need the Savior who died and rose again for my sins. You need God to tell you without Him your sins will smash you into hell. The Bible would return as it was originally because God does not change. Science changes every day.
Are you saying the Koran is fictional
If science came back the same in a 1000 years, that’s horrible science because science is always changing, what the best thinkers thought 1000 years ago isn’t what we know is true today
Someone eventually comes with the scientific method, eventually every scientific fact gets discovered again, is not like music and art, or even history books! there it would be a different tale!
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…and how and why is this the only way?
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Kind of. But that’s based on the supposition that if the gospel was removed from the earth that God would not re-introduce it.
A Creator and His creation would not have any conflicts between. If there seems to be a conflict between them it simply means that I am missing some understanding about God or about the science, because if there is a Creator it all flows out of who He is!
If all of the Quran in the world are destroyed this minute, it will comeback exactly the same in no time, as millions of muslims have memorized it. So Ricky is completely wrong here.
Listen to him again.
While Ricky Gervais sort of has a point, but like most athiests when this is put forward, he completely misses the point.
The point is you are still accepting what someone else told you. You are still relying on testimony. While some things like Gravity are to some extent self evident and you could use intuition to get there, this is not always the case. Often Athiests will go to this self evident thing and say "see there you go", but that isn't really what we are talking about.
Let's take a flat earth argument as an example. Most people believe it because that is what they have been told. Thet have never done an experiment or checked it themselves. That doesn't mean that the earth isn't round (that is a non sequitur) but it does mean that you have faith (in the proper sense) in the person telling you this. Even if someone has done an experiment to show it, you are taking their word that they did it correctly and didn't lie when you think the earth is round.
This is the point. Unless you do literally every scientific experiment yourself, you are believing a testemony.
We are not taking there word for it over a long period of time all the big theories go under heavy testing by people in the same field. Human life and expertise is too small to know everything, so we trust institutions that have proven themselves. Science is not one person by an discipline that involves thousands of independent institutions and individuals. The proof Science works is satellites in space, doctors rescuing lives, and us communicating across the globe. I can't do half that stuff but it works and has earned my trust.
@@aayushsingh4645 "so we trust institutions that have proven themselves" contradicts "we are not taking their word for it".
Have you personally done everything? By your own admission you have not. Then you are taking somebodies word for it, or multiple peoples word for it maybe. You are taking somebody's word for it though.
@@euanthompson I simply can't do everyone of those experiments cause of the resources and the expertise required, but there are checks and balances in the scientific community for those reasons. A radiologist has to take my word for a data model since it works and had be confirmed by other experts. I don't think you realize how extensive checks there are on these kind of things. Also the most major reason is that, it works. You need to take the word of experts of there theory works. Do you trust your doctor and his fellows to keep him in line or do you study for every sickness? It same with other fields of science but more complex.
@@aayushsingh4645 I don't think you are getting it, you are throughout both posts, constantly admitting you are having to take other people's word. You are relying on their testemony. Their testemony they did the experiment, that they did the checks, that the data they have was obtained correctly, etc.
I am not saying you are wrong to trust them, nor that there are not checks. I am merely pointing out that you are, and are continuously admitting to, relying on people's testemony.
@@euanthompson I think what I am trying to say is testimony provided by the scientific community is different from testimony provided by religion. And at one point we have to take testimony for things, and stating that just because both sides take testimony therefore they both might be equal unsure are not correct in this context.
This is not true. You can’t destroy the Quran. If you burned all the copies of the Quran in the Arabic language there are a millions of Boys and girls let alone scholars who have memorized it letter by letter
the laws of physics exist independently of human knowledge of them, whereas the existence of any god is only supported by a book, for example. if there is such a powerful god (or gods) why would they have to make themselves known through texts? they cannot make themselves known by themselves, is the same as saying that unicorns exist only because we have an idea about them.
@@8ntropy the creation the world we exist on is a proof that God Almighty exist. The sun and moon interchanging constantly is a sign that God exist. My father traveled miles met my mother and from that union many generations will come about (in sha Allah). His decree and timing is perfect. Unicorns hold no significance. The creator of all that is in existence and coming about is Great and Mighty. And the disbelief in a creator is tragic.
He is right except for one massive problem.
His presuppositions about God and the nature of science fall Into the context of philosophy, not science.
If we abolished Darwinin Orthodoxy that wouldn't be back because no part of it is science.
Is issue is the same as most atheists, they think their presuppositions are scientific. Lol
Darwin's theory of evolution does not attempt to explain the origins of life, but only the origins of species. And if you believe in the theory of evolution that he proposes then it logically leads to the conclusion that life did not emerge from a primordial ooze.
... that's a little unfair. History can be erased/changed, but the laws are constant.
The bible, at least, could be said to be a guide to human psychology. That should not change too much over time.
Science goes, "boom goes the dynamite!"
Good old Ricky. Spot on
Logic: the antichrist 😂😂
"Cause someone told you"?
“Science is constantly proved all the time.” Oh no….
Earth is scientifically and measurably flat
😂😂😂 Prove it.
I’m still trying to figure out how they build the pyramids.
I like Ricky’s common sense approach. Although I have to play devils advocate, excuse the pun. Science continually changes its absolutes. Depending on what time in history you look at science you will know what is absolute or not.
Bro Albert Einstein literally said "science is the reason i believe in god"
It’s sad how misinformed you are. That quote wasn’t from Einstein, it was a different scientist. If you’re going to lie to people, atleast make it believable. Good luck next time, fraud.
What is it with theists and lying about Einstein 🤦♂️
'The word God is for me nothing but the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of venerable but still rather primitive legends. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change anything about this. '
Albert Einstein, in his letter to Eric Gutkind in 1954
Known as Einstein's "god letter", it sold at auction a few years back
The one thing I say when the subject of religion and atheism is something can’t come from nothing. No matter big bang theory no matter water molecules turning into bio organisms no matter what you believe something cannot come from nothing. That’s my main argument for religion
❤ spot on, check out the infinity paradox.
Why can’t something come from nothing? Just because it doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t make it not so. Where do the gods come from? All you demand is one more contrivance in the line of “coming from nothing “.
Where did gawd come from? If you carve out an exception for thr gawd concept, you're committing a Special Pleading fallacy.