Totally agree on the compartment doors. The Tiffin Wayfarer I think has one of the best compartment door design that swings out sideways. Also the fit and finish on the interior (real wood cabinets, solid counter top) is also much better on the Tiffin unit. But that probably comes at the expense of OCCC. One of Wayfarer we looked at had an OCCC of 780lbs. Yikes! In the end we chose to go with a 2023 View 24D. The dinette is more functional. Also like the option of having a table in front of the sofa. The bunk is a little more spacious and is insulated. It's hard to beat the Winnebago if you have kids like we do. Anyways hoping to pick up our 24D later this week. And waiting for this crazy weather to end in California so we can start creating memories! 😁
Agree. I'm sure your entire family is excited and creating awesome memories is what it's all about. Let me know if you ever have any questions on the View.
This is a great video. One of the points I would make is the materials are delicate. I tell my boys to treat the counter as if it was made of paper. :). And what about that weird awning recall. We are going into our second year and it is, by far, the most meaningful tool to make memories as a family we have ever had. We love it.
Delicate is right, lol. I tell my kids frajjeelayy lol. Yes the memories is the best part of it, and I can tell you adore your kids. The awning recall is odd, and it's funny how the manufacturers are trying to find a solution. From my personal experience and opinion, the awning issue is that it is natural when you arrive in a campsite, to extend the awning out and the engine may be running. The wiring on the engine interlock in my opinion is done incorrectly. When you extend the awning with the engine running, the interlock prevents the awning to extend, but the motor in the awning keeps running (you will hear a small faint electric motor noise). This causes the awning gears to get out of synch and the awning can get stuck or pop out on its own because the gears aren't connected. I didn't do a video on it due to liability, but I use my awning almost every day. The gears need to be in synch and never deploy the awning with the engine running. If it ever goes out of synch, you need to climb the ladder, use the awning app, retract the awning and you will hear the awning motor humming noise (until it stops), then extend the awning button, but manually pull the awning out with your hand hard to line up the gears. If it ever happens to you, email me and I can walk you through it. Don't open the cover and try to manually retract it with the ratchet without synching the gears.
Thanks for all the great tips , We have purchased the same coach and have appreciated all the ideas and suggestions, I have done the majority of your upgrades also , I installed additional Renogy Lion batteries in my storage compartment along side the existing ' small trade off in space for a HUGE amount of battery capacity, Sad to see you outgrow your Coach but again thanks for all your vloging , we went from a 40ft diesel and agree that at this price point we should have high end options like we had on our DP , Safe travels
Thank you. The Mercedes chassis has it's quirks, but reliability was not an issue, and the service was pretty easy to find. Surprisingly, I am having trouble getting service on my new Ram Chassis. Most of the Ram dealers in my area do not have a lift big enough for my RV.
Thank you for all your informative videos. We recently purchased a 2021 24D and your videos have been a blessing. Can you provide information on the TV replacement, type and installation.
The TV is an LG 32 inch smart TV. It was the only one in white at the time. As for mounting the TV, it was pretty complicated, but if you have modest carpentry skills, it can be done. I removed the Winnebago metal bracket, and cut/modified it to fit the new TV. It's not a direct replacement because Winnebago uses an odd shaped TV and bracket. It would be hard for me to explain on video, but I did reuse all the existing bracket.
Craig, the way you've documented your mods and maintenance to your rig should allow you to ask top dollar when you are ready to sell. Honestly, I'm not interested in buying used but if I was, I'd be first in line to get yours. 😉
Thanks Mark. This is a tough one. We really like this particular size and wished we didn't have to go larger and may even regret it. Especially since we know what it was like having a larger RV.
Thank you, no we already had a Class A diesel pusher for 9 years prior to this one. Loved it but still want to stay smaller for more mobility. (Have to convince spouse we need a new one lol). This Winnebago has gone everywhere our class B has gone, so think we can go slightly larger and still travel the same way.
I am going to pick up a new 24D tomorrow. Flying up to Nashville TN to drive it back. Really value your videos. Anything I should look out for before I drive it home? I plan to camp in it overnight before I depart to head home and really go over it. Thanks.
Check all drawers to make sure they close smoothly (and not click/clunk when you open), leave pump on and check for any water under bath sink (water connections known to drip), listen for pump cycling on it's own (means small drips), behind shower valve, and in the wet bay are know plumbing leak problems, do a roof inspection, check that the exterior sealants where the front cap meets the body isn't cracked already (known areas of sealant failure), test generator, and run AC or heat pump function, check autolevelers if you got that option that the feet/legs don't point slightly inward. Equalizer levelers are known for improper install and torque to the bolt during factory install. I would just make sure you test every function on both water pump and city water, as well as generator, and shore power. Good luck.
Thanks for the very helpful review. I had thoughts of purchasing the Navion 24V. However after seeing this review and several recent tours, I think I'm going to go with another Jayco Greyhawk full C. I had one for 5 yrs and my family of 4 loved it. No compromises on space. Very few maintenance issues that I couldn't resolve myself - after the 1st year or 2 of self study 😂. And the E450 chassis is tried and true with very easy self service. Yes, the Mercedes is more high tech and the cab has more safety features. But after swearing off anything German after disastrous German car ownership experiences, that is a hard pill to swallow. A full sized c class drinks more fuel. But I'm 6'3" and that house area looks nice but feels cramped even when I stand alone.
Yes they all have their pros and cons. Lucky there are many choices out there. Wished they could improve the mileage and the ride quality in the E450. Also the E series rvs are true wide body so you gain in the interior width as well. Cost is also a bonus on most E series RVs. The mercedes definitely milks you on the pricing.
@@rvlifediy Thanks for your reply. I left my comment before finishing your video. Your point about the ability to get into more places, more spaces, with less planning is huge! This is a big drawback of the full C. The countless hours of planning i did during those 5 working years to get into parks was so exhausting. And limiting. Thanks again!
@ivanvarykino8202 Minnie Winnie makes several very short class c on e450 that is same length as the View. Entegra Osyssey as well. Yes the shorter length has given us much more flexibility on traveling without towing a vehicle. Good luck on your next RV. We're moving onto something larger temporary for the kids and likely go back to the View size again in the future.
My 18D has been a combination of newbie errors and poor construction. Yes, doors, even on mine are a nightmare, loud generator, loud heater and A/C. Have spent way too much money to improve - shocks, sway bar, fridge does not always work, back-up camera quit working. Mercedes Benz 6 miles from my home will not return my calls for the recall items. Just been a series of disappointments. But, I Love the experience of being able to get away as a Single older woman with my cats. Just wish the money pit of this experience had been better.
Hi Dawn, yes it can be a pain and money pit owning these things, but I think the experience makes it tolerable. For the Mercedes part, only some Mercedes shops can take an RV (just like Ford and Chevy), most regular auto dealerships do not take them. I take mine to a Sprinter repair center (still Mercedes, but Sprinter repair only) and it's easy to make an appointment, so I would suggest doing a search and make sure they take a Sprinter Van. For all other problems it sounds like you already spent some good money on, so I would tackle the other items 1 at a time that are most important to you. The generator and AC/heater noise you could probably just live with. AC has two noise issues that require a soft start to reduce the compressor start up noise, and the plenum mod to reduce the wind sound. Hope you can enjoy your RV.
@@rvlifediy WOW !! TY, for this invaluable information!! I have a Cousin who owns a Mercedes Dealership in the next state over & I was going to contact her. But, your recommendation is the avenue I will take. And I will look into trying to soften the noise possibilities!! Awesome !! I need to deep dive into your videos to see what other gems I may find that may apply to my older rig. Happy Trails !!!
I love the Winnebago View 24D but when I looked at these they didn't have enough cargo carrying capacity. I'm curious what your weight is when you go camping and how much over capacity you are. Furthermore, I believe the 24D has a CCC of 1100 pounds. 30 gallons of water is 250, add two adults 350, two kids 200, and you are already at 800 pounds. Now add food, dishes, clothing, bedding, toys grill, electronics like cameras, GPS, computers etc., and you can see you are already well over 1100 pounds in cargo. This is why the RV needs suspension modifications to make it more manageable to drive. Some people don't mind overloading their RV, but it does cause more wear and tear on it and if you were ever in an accident your insurance could claim you were operating it in a dangerous manner and deny your claims. Not to mention you could be ticketed for it.
That is the challenge with any Sprinter based class C or B+ RV out there. They all seem to have low occc. And on top of that, the View and the Navion is better of the bunch which is bad. And for clarification, the suspension sucks without any weight added and is way undersprung when empty. There are many items that can be left at home. I don't carry the spare table and leg, sink covers, Murphy bed curtains, factory steel ladder, front booster seats, microwave accessories or any other items the View came with. You could also remove the spare tire and bracket if it came down to it, and keep the family weight down lol. Ideally, if they had an option to remove the generator, propane tank, furnace, water heater, and add in double lithium and alternator, and the truma combi, it would save about 350 pounds of weight. Removing the auto levelers will also reduce 180 pounds. It all comes down to what some feel comfortable with.
@@rvlifediy all good ideas, but I think I will avoid the Mercedes chassis and if we switch to a Class C from our fifth wheel it will probably be on the E450 chassis to get the payload I want. I think 1500 pounds is a bare-bones minimum and I want in excess of 2000 pounds CCC. I have seen some models on the E450 with a CCC of 3800 pound! I like the mods you've made to your rig and I love the floor plan but the View/Navion is just not big enough in payload for us.
@willbillyheaven yes the E450 will be much better suited for capacity. Wished they could get better mpg. The sprinter has a 4500 cut away chassis as well that gives an additional 1000 pounds, but there is apparently legal jargen that requires the laden weight to be less than the 3500 sprinter. Not sure why they can't work out the language in that. The only difference between the 4500 and 3500 is rear springs. Axles, brakes, tires, engine, transmission are all the same. The E450 doesn't have much competition, so it doesn't look like they made any effort in mpg improvement. Are you getting about 8mpg on your 5th wheel combo?
Thank you for the informative videos. It sounds like you are pretty happy with the View overall. Have you found any issues with the roof maintenance? Specifically, has your radius caulking behind the gutters held up well? Again, thank you! This coach is on my short list. Wayfarer may win out due to their all-electric option and side swing cargo doors--but their exterior cargo space is not a generous as the View/Navion. Then there is the Renegade Vienna. Tough decision!
Tough decision for sure. No issues on the radius caulking/sealant, and yes that is a key area on a Winnebago for roof maintenance. All electric would be my next mod if I was keeping the View longer. I would remove the generator, propane, furnace, and truma water heater, and add back in a truma combi, double or triple lithium, and dedicated alternator. If you are looking at sprinter size RV, wayfarer and View would be a good choice. You may want to add in the Dynamax isata 3 freedom edition. That is being released shortly and is all electric.
Hi Mike, check out the exterior tour video description. Its the 4th oldest video. The link is in the description. It is store bought. I used some double stick tape and screws. Screws strip easy so don't overtrighten.
I just watched Matt’s RV’s review of the 2023 version and….soooo disappointed to find that the manufacturer HAS NOT ADOPTED A SINGLE ONE OF YOUR WELL THOUGHT OUT SUGGESTIONS ! Why would ANYONE purchase an RV made by a manufacturer who doesn’t take advantage of their best field testing asset…The experiences of their own customers ??? NO THANK YOU.
We had Winnebago, LOVED it, went larger Super C, kept it for 5 years but went running back to Winnebago. So many of his complaints would be legit if he had paid 50-100k more. He just sounds super critical. It’s his right but I feel like people will skip Winnebago when we think it’s one of the better brands. At 25’ you give up a lot but you gain so much. We used our super C LESS bcz of its size.
Like your videos thanks. You keep mentioning competitors have better design. Which competitors are you referring to and what models? Also how old are your kids and why do you need to upgrade? I'm thinking of getting our first RV with 2 young kids.
Check the video description on my Interior Tour Video (3rd to last video). I wouldn't consider that we are upgrading, just moving onto something else. We had a large Class A prior to the View, and it was a nice change to something smaller. Looking at something in the middle size now. Kids are 8 and 10. The View is fine for our family of 4, but just looking at something else that's all. My family likes the View as it is. It's just me, because I enjoy everything about RVs and ready to move onto something else a little larger. Hope that helps.
@@rvlifediy Thanks for your reply. If you were to do it over again considering all the mods you did would you still pick the Winebago or would you have gone with a Tiffin or LTV or something else? I have a 3 and 6 y/o so I'm looking at the same 24D layout unless you have another suggestion?
@velox03 definitely not the LTV. I actually purchased the LTV first, but changed to the Winnebago. The LTV is the smallest inside usable space and not very practice. The 24D floorplan seems to be the best overall including holding value. I didn't like the looks of the Tiffin cabinets and the low occc was the main deal breaker. If I had to do again, I'd seriously look at the Isata 3 freedom edition. But have no regrets with the Winnebago, and may consider another one in the future. Amazing memories.
We are looking for our first RV. I grew up traveling with my grandparents in their rv in then 70's and now we are looking for our first one. Would you recommend this one (we are looking at a new 2023) for our first rv? Any tips while looking for our first one? The other one we have looked at is an east to west Entrada but it doesn't have the murphy bed which i think we want but not sure. Thanks so much!
It's a decent RV but be prepared for problems. They all seem to be missing quality control and getting warranty work done is a huge hassle. If it's only for 2 people, the Leisure Travel Van Unity will be better quality.
Kind of, but yes, nothing on the sprinter chassis. It's a tough decision because we really like the size of the View and we don't "need"a larger RV. So it's been tough deciding what to do. In the mean time, we are just enjoying what we have and continue with more modifications.
@@rvlifediy We are taking our 24D on it's maiden voyage next weekend finally. 😁 We actually had a 2021 Tiffin Wayfarer before this. That unit caught on fire on the highway on our way home from Monterey. So the 24D is a replacement from the insurance. So far I love the floor plan. Winnebago may have watched your videos because they did fix a few of your dislikes. 😁
@K H I think they are my thumbs down crew lol. It's definitely hard to beat the 24D floorplan. If I recall, the wayfarer had sumo springs from the factory. If you haven't already, I'm sure you will need some suspension mods. Have fun in your new Winnebago.
I average 13-14 mpg driving 74-77mph. Slowing down to 65 could get you to 16. Power up hills is way too slow for my taste. Many others seem satisfied. Either though it's slow, not many other RVs ever pass me so I would say it's fine. Mattress is fine for us but we are light weight. Many other put a topper on and are very satisfied. Hope that helps.
I've seen it mounted facing forward, back, top, and at angles. Seems it was up to whoever was installing. I probably didn't explain it very well, but rotating them front or any other direction won't change the issue I have. Mine has to have lots of pressure to install or remove them. The plastic piece on the wall seems like it will break, or the screws pop out. Ideally if there was a mount that could just swivel down on 1 end, and also have a roller that has the friction function and rachet action would be best. That way you can tilt it down, and pull the roll off, and the roller would also rachet so the paper towel doesn't unwind on you going down the road. 1st world problems for sure, and I'll get to making something one of these days.
We have a 2019 View, and have had to replace multiple items. Some are the display went bad after a month, inverter switch wired wrong, water pump failed within a year, hood latch broke within a month, black water valve leaks, house batteries bad after 2 months, and on and on. It's probably spent a couple of months in the shop. When you look close, this thing is put together with staples and cheap material. And, when you call for any type of warrantee issue, Winnebago sends you to the different manufactures of the parts they use. I would not purchase this, or another Winnebago product again.
That is an awful lot of stuff for sure, and I totally understand that terrible warranty process. Unfortunately most of the RVs are assembled with glue and staples if you really look deep. I've been through several different brands over the years and they all seem to be the same. Mostly overpriced and bad build quality. Hang in there and just focus on getting priority items fixed. Grass will likely not be greener with a different brand but you can definitely make a stand on where you money is spent. Good luck with the repairs.
I have two other videos that explain the door problems more in detail and the fix for them. The door is not as good as the sales videos show. You have to slam the door pretty hard to get it to shut properly, the two latching mechanisms need to be line up perfectly to close properly, there will be gaps around the door showing daylight, the door handle will break if someone pulls on the outside, and the inside handle at the same time, and the integrated sliding screen will also eventually break. All repairable, but a little pain in the butt. I wouldn't let it be a deal breaker, but I would also not let it be a positive selling point. Hope that helps.
Not sure what you mean. We had a class A diesel for 9 years prior to the Winnebago View. My kids were young and it was easier to get around in the Winnebago. We had the Winnebago for over 3 years. The kids grew fast like all kids. Not interested in a class A again at this time. Maybe sometime in the future again. Not sure if any of that makes sense.
Totally agree on the compartment doors. The Tiffin Wayfarer I think has one of the best compartment door design that swings out sideways. Also the fit and finish on the interior (real wood cabinets, solid counter top) is also much better on the Tiffin unit. But that probably comes at the expense of OCCC. One of Wayfarer we looked at had an OCCC of 780lbs. Yikes! In the end we chose to go with a 2023 View 24D. The dinette is more functional. Also like the option of having a table in front of the sofa. The bunk is a little more spacious and is insulated. It's hard to beat the Winnebago if you have kids like we do.
Anyways hoping to pick up our 24D later this week. And waiting for this crazy weather to end in California so we can start creating memories! 😁
Agree. I'm sure your entire family is excited and creating awesome memories is what it's all about. Let me know if you ever have any questions on the View.
This is a great video. One of the points I would make is the materials are delicate. I tell my boys to treat the counter as if it was made of paper. :). And what about that weird awning recall. We are going into our second year and it is, by far, the most meaningful tool to make memories as a family we have ever had. We love it.
Delicate is right, lol. I tell my kids frajjeelayy lol. Yes the memories is the best part of it, and I can tell you adore your kids. The awning recall is odd, and it's funny how the manufacturers are trying to find a solution. From my personal experience and opinion, the awning issue is that it is natural when you arrive in a campsite, to extend the awning out and the engine may be running. The wiring on the engine interlock in my opinion is done incorrectly. When you extend the awning with the engine running, the interlock prevents the awning to extend, but the motor in the awning keeps running (you will hear a small faint electric motor noise). This causes the awning gears to get out of synch and the awning can get stuck or pop out on its own because the gears aren't connected. I didn't do a video on it due to liability, but I use my awning almost every day. The gears need to be in synch and never deploy the awning with the engine running. If it ever goes out of synch, you need to climb the ladder, use the awning app, retract the awning and you will hear the awning motor humming noise (until it stops), then extend the awning button, but manually pull the awning out with your hand hard to line up the gears. If it ever happens to you, email me and I can walk you through it. Don't open the cover and try to manually retract it with the ratchet without synching the gears.
@@rvlifediy you are an amazing person to detail this. I really appreciate this insight.
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Thanks for all the great tips , We have purchased the same coach and have appreciated all the ideas and suggestions,
I have done the majority of your upgrades also , I installed additional Renogy Lion batteries in my storage compartment along side the existing '
small trade off in space for a HUGE amount of battery capacity,
Sad to see you outgrow your Coach but again thanks for all your vloging , we went from a 40ft diesel and agree that at this price point we should have high end options like we had on our DP , Safe travels
Thanks David. It's definitely a great size RV and we will likely go back to this size in the near future.
Nice review! Looks like a great camper and would be even better with your suggestions.
Thank you. Yes, I think if they incorporated a few changes, it would make it more inline/ahead of the competition.
Great review, thanks for posting. We're looking at these, and were concerned about the Mercedes chassis so your experience is a good data point.
Thank you. The Mercedes chassis has it's quirks, but reliability was not an issue, and the service was pretty easy to find. Surprisingly, I am having trouble getting service on my new Ram Chassis. Most of the Ram dealers in my area do not have a lift big enough for my RV.
You definitely take great care of your rv
Thank you. Maintenance is definitely important and makes things last longer.
As a View owner I agree with most of your comments.
Thank you.
Thank you for all your informative videos. We recently purchased a 2021 24D and your videos have been a blessing. Can you provide information on the TV replacement, type and installation.
The TV is an LG 32 inch smart TV. It was the only one in white at the time. As for mounting the TV, it was pretty complicated, but if you have modest carpentry skills, it can be done. I removed the Winnebago metal bracket, and cut/modified it to fit the new TV. It's not a direct replacement because Winnebago uses an odd shaped TV and bracket. It would be hard for me to explain on video, but I did reuse all the existing bracket.
A really good review! Thank you! ☺
Thank you.
@@rvlifediy I am REALLY enjoying your thoughts on EVERYTHING! ☺
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Craig, the way you've documented your mods and maintenance to your rig should allow you to ask top dollar when you are ready to sell. Honestly, I'm not interested in buying used but if I was, I'd be first in line to get yours. 😉
Thanks Mark. This is a tough one. We really like this particular size and wished we didn't have to go larger and may even regret it. Especially since we know what it was like having a larger RV.
Very thorough review! I guess you are going to a class A for more room for the kids? Your kids would love it. ❤
Thank you, no we already had a Class A diesel pusher for 9 years prior to this one. Loved it but still want to stay smaller for more mobility. (Have to convince spouse we need a new one lol). This Winnebago has gone everywhere our class B has gone, so think we can go slightly larger and still travel the same way.
@@rvlifediy right we saw some pretty large class C. Nice to have a fixed bed so your wife can can have a nice and pretty comforter set. 😉
@BamBamRVAdventureToo many choices out there lol.
I am going to pick up a new 24D tomorrow. Flying up to Nashville TN to drive it back. Really value your videos. Anything I should look out for before I drive it home? I plan to camp in it overnight before I depart to head home and really go over it. Thanks.
Check all drawers to make sure they close smoothly (and not click/clunk when you open), leave pump on and check for any water under bath sink (water connections known to drip), listen for pump cycling on it's own (means small drips), behind shower valve, and in the wet bay are know plumbing leak problems, do a roof inspection, check that the exterior sealants where the front cap meets the body isn't cracked already (known areas of sealant failure), test generator, and run AC or heat pump function, check autolevelers if you got that option that the feet/legs don't point slightly inward. Equalizer levelers are known for improper install and torque to the bolt during factory install. I would just make sure you test every function on both water pump and city water, as well as generator, and shore power. Good luck.
Thanks for the very helpful review. I had thoughts of purchasing the Navion 24V. However after seeing this review and several recent tours, I think I'm going to go with another Jayco Greyhawk full C. I had one for 5 yrs and my family of 4 loved it. No compromises on space. Very few maintenance issues that I couldn't resolve myself - after the 1st year or 2 of self study 😂. And the E450 chassis is tried and true with very easy self service. Yes, the Mercedes is more high tech and the cab has more safety features. But after swearing off anything German after disastrous German car ownership experiences, that is a hard pill to swallow.
A full sized c class drinks more fuel. But I'm 6'3" and that house area looks nice but feels cramped even when I stand alone.
Yes they all have their pros and cons. Lucky there are many choices out there. Wished they could improve the mileage and the ride quality in the E450. Also the E series rvs are true wide body so you gain in the interior width as well. Cost is also a bonus on most E series RVs. The mercedes definitely milks you on the pricing.
@@rvlifediy Thanks for your reply. I left my comment before finishing your video. Your point about the ability to get into more places, more spaces, with less planning is huge! This is a big drawback of the full C. The countless hours of planning i did during those 5 working years to get into parks was so exhausting. And limiting. Thanks again!
@ivanvarykino8202 Minnie Winnie makes several very short class c on e450 that is same length as the View. Entegra Osyssey as well. Yes the shorter length has given us much more flexibility on traveling without towing a vehicle. Good luck on your next RV. We're moving onto something larger temporary for the kids and likely go back to the View size again in the future.
My 18D has been a combination of newbie errors and poor construction. Yes, doors, even on mine are a nightmare, loud generator, loud heater and A/C. Have spent way too much money to improve - shocks, sway bar, fridge does not always work, back-up camera quit working. Mercedes Benz 6 miles from my home will not return my calls for the recall items. Just been a series of disappointments. But, I Love the experience of being able to get away as a Single older woman with my cats. Just wish the money pit of this experience had been better.
Hi Dawn, yes it can be a pain and money pit owning these things, but I think the experience makes it tolerable. For the Mercedes part, only some Mercedes shops can take an RV (just like Ford and Chevy), most regular auto dealerships do not take them. I take mine to a Sprinter repair center (still Mercedes, but Sprinter repair only) and it's easy to make an appointment, so I would suggest doing a search and make sure they take a Sprinter Van. For all other problems it sounds like you already spent some good money on, so I would tackle the other items 1 at a time that are most important to you. The generator and AC/heater noise you could probably just live with. AC has two noise issues that require a soft start to reduce the compressor start up noise, and the plenum mod to reduce the wind sound. Hope you can enjoy your RV.
@@rvlifediy WOW !! TY, for this invaluable information!! I have a Cousin who owns a Mercedes Dealership in the next state over & I was going to contact her. But, your recommendation is the avenue I will take. And I will look into trying to soften the noise possibilities!! Awesome !! I need to deep dive into your videos to see what other gems I may find that may apply to my older rig. Happy Trails !!!
@@dawnross644 If you have more specific questions, you can also email me. My email is in the about section of my channel.
@@rvlifediy Awww, TY…will keep that in mind. I did subscribe !!
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I love the Winnebago View 24D but when I looked at these they didn't have enough cargo carrying capacity. I'm curious what your weight is when you go camping and how much over capacity you are. Furthermore, I believe the 24D has a CCC of 1100 pounds. 30 gallons of water is 250, add two adults 350, two kids 200, and you are already at 800 pounds. Now add food, dishes, clothing, bedding, toys grill, electronics like cameras, GPS, computers etc., and you can see you are already well over 1100 pounds in cargo. This is why the RV needs suspension modifications to make it more manageable to drive. Some people don't mind overloading their RV, but it does cause more wear and tear on it and if you were ever in an accident your insurance could claim you were operating it in a dangerous manner and deny your claims. Not to mention you could be ticketed for it.
That is the challenge with any Sprinter based class C or B+ RV out there. They all seem to have low occc. And on top of that, the View and the Navion is better of the bunch which is bad. And for clarification, the suspension sucks without any weight added and is way undersprung when empty. There are many items that can be left at home. I don't carry the spare table and leg, sink covers, Murphy bed curtains, factory steel ladder, front booster seats, microwave accessories or any other items the View came with. You could also remove the spare tire and bracket if it came down to it, and keep the family weight down lol. Ideally, if they had an option to remove the generator, propane tank, furnace, water heater, and add in double lithium and alternator, and the truma combi, it would save about 350 pounds of weight. Removing the auto levelers will also reduce 180 pounds. It all comes down to what some feel comfortable with.
@@rvlifediy all good ideas, but I think I will avoid the Mercedes chassis and if we switch to a Class C from our fifth wheel it will probably be on the E450 chassis to get the payload I want. I think 1500 pounds is a bare-bones minimum and I want in excess of 2000 pounds CCC. I have seen some models on the E450 with a CCC of 3800 pound!
I like the mods you've made to your rig and I love the floor plan but the View/Navion is just not big enough in payload for us.
@willbillyheaven yes the E450 will be much better suited for capacity. Wished they could get better mpg. The sprinter has a 4500 cut away chassis as well that gives an additional 1000 pounds, but there is apparently legal jargen that requires the laden weight to be less than the 3500 sprinter. Not sure why they can't work out the language in that. The only difference between the 4500 and 3500 is rear springs. Axles, brakes, tires, engine, transmission are all the same. The E450 doesn't have much competition, so it doesn't look like they made any effort in mpg improvement. Are you getting about 8mpg on your 5th wheel combo?
@@rvlifediy don't load up the water tank and unnecessary stuff! You will know if there are load issues don't freak about occupancy loads have fun!!!!
Ready for an upgrade on the RV? Can't wait to see what you get.
I think change is nice sometimes. We will see how this RV market pricing stabilize some more.
Thank you for the informative videos. It sounds like you are pretty happy with the View overall. Have you found any issues with the roof maintenance? Specifically, has your radius caulking behind the gutters held up well? Again, thank you! This coach is on my short list. Wayfarer may win out due to their all-electric option and side swing cargo doors--but their exterior cargo space is not a generous as the View/Navion. Then there is the Renegade Vienna. Tough decision!
Tough decision for sure. No issues on the radius caulking/sealant, and yes that is a key area on a Winnebago for roof maintenance. All electric would be my next mod if I was keeping the View longer. I would remove the generator, propane, furnace, and truma water heater, and add back in a truma combi, double or triple lithium, and dedicated alternator. If you are looking at sprinter size RV, wayfarer and View would be a good choice. You may want to add in the Dynamax isata 3 freedom edition. That is being released shortly and is all electric.
@@rvlifediy Thank you so much. I will check out the Isata for sure!
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Hi Craig, can you tell us about your under compartment "Fishing Pole Holder"? Did you buy something pre-made or this was a DYI?
Hi Mike, check out the exterior tour video description. Its the 4th oldest video. The link is in the description. It is store bought. I used some double stick tape and screws. Screws strip easy so don't overtrighten.
I just watched Matt’s RV’s review of the 2023 version and….soooo disappointed to find that the manufacturer HAS NOT ADOPTED A SINGLE ONE OF YOUR WELL THOUGHT OUT SUGGESTIONS ! Why would ANYONE purchase an RV made by a manufacturer who doesn’t take advantage of their best field testing asset…The experiences of their own customers ??? NO THANK YOU.
Yes it seems they may keep it the same for 2024 as well.
Disappointing for sure!
We had Winnebago, LOVED it, went larger Super C, kept it for 5 years but went running back to Winnebago. So many of his complaints would be legit if he had paid 50-100k more.
He just sounds super critical. It’s his right but I feel like people will skip Winnebago when we think it’s one of the better brands.
At 25’ you give up a lot but you gain so much. We used our super C LESS bcz of its size.
Like your videos thanks. You keep mentioning competitors have better design. Which competitors are you referring to and what models? Also how old are your kids and why do you need to upgrade? I'm thinking of getting our first RV with 2 young kids.
Check the video description on my Interior Tour Video (3rd to last video). I wouldn't consider that we are upgrading, just moving onto something else. We had a large Class A prior to the View, and it was a nice change to something smaller. Looking at something in the middle size now. Kids are 8 and 10. The View is fine for our family of 4, but just looking at something else that's all. My family likes the View as it is. It's just me, because I enjoy everything about RVs and ready to move onto something else a little larger. Hope that helps.
@@rvlifediy Thanks for your reply. If you were to do it over again considering all the mods you did would you still pick the Winebago or would you have gone with a Tiffin or LTV or something else? I have a 3 and 6 y/o so I'm looking at the same 24D layout unless you have another suggestion?
@velox03 definitely not the LTV. I actually purchased the LTV first, but changed to the Winnebago. The LTV is the smallest inside usable space and not very practice. The 24D floorplan seems to be the best overall including holding value. I didn't like the looks of the Tiffin cabinets and the low occc was the main deal breaker. If I had to do again, I'd seriously look at the Isata 3 freedom edition. But have no regrets with the Winnebago, and may consider another one in the future. Amazing memories.
We are looking for our first RV. I grew up traveling with my grandparents in their rv in then 70's and now we are looking for our first one. Would you recommend this one (we are looking at a new 2023) for our first rv? Any tips while looking for our first one? The other one we have looked at is an east to west Entrada but it doesn't have the murphy bed which i think we want but not sure. Thanks so much!
It's a decent RV but be prepared for problems. They all seem to be missing quality control and getting warranty work done is a huge hassle. If it's only for 2 people, the Leisure Travel Van Unity will be better quality.
Have you narrowed down what your next coach will be? I haven't come across any other Sprinter chassis RV with more space.
Kind of, but yes, nothing on the sprinter chassis. It's a tough decision because we really like the size of the View and we don't "need"a larger RV. So it's been tough deciding what to do. In the mean time, we are just enjoying what we have and continue with more modifications.
@@rvlifediy We are taking our 24D on it's maiden voyage next weekend finally. 😁 We actually had a 2021 Tiffin Wayfarer before this. That unit caught on fire on the highway on our way home from Monterey. So the 24D is a replacement from the insurance. So far I love the floor plan. Winnebago may have watched your videos because they did fix a few of your dislikes. 😁
@K H I think they are my thumbs down crew lol. It's definitely hard to beat the 24D floorplan. If I recall, the wayfarer had sumo springs from the factory. If you haven't already, I'm sure you will need some suspension mods. Have fun in your new Winnebago.
we are thinking about buying the 2023 model how is the gas mileage, power up hills, is the bed mattress good?
I average 13-14 mpg driving 74-77mph. Slowing down to 65 could get you to 16. Power up hills is way too slow for my taste. Many others seem satisfied. Either though it's slow, not many other RVs ever pass me so I would say it's fine. Mattress is fine for us but we are light weight. Many other put a topper on and are very satisfied. Hope that helps.
Your paper towel holder mounts are installed incorrectly. Just rotate them 90 degrees open end towards you. Mine works great on my 2021 View.
I've seen it mounted facing forward, back, top, and at angles. Seems it was up to whoever was installing. I probably didn't explain it very well, but rotating them front or any other direction won't change the issue I have. Mine has to have lots of pressure to install or remove them. The plastic piece on the wall seems like it will break, or the screws pop out. Ideally if there was a mount that could just swivel down on 1 end, and also have a roller that has the friction function and rachet action would be best. That way you can tilt it down, and pull the roll off, and the roller would also rachet so the paper towel doesn't unwind on you going down the road. 1st world problems for sure, and I'll get to making something one of these days.
We have a 2019 View, and have had to replace multiple items. Some are the display went bad after a month, inverter switch wired wrong, water pump failed within a year, hood latch broke within a month, black water valve leaks, house batteries bad after 2 months, and on and on. It's probably spent a couple of months in the shop. When you look close, this thing is put together with staples and cheap material. And, when you call for any type of warrantee issue, Winnebago sends you to the different manufactures of the parts they use. I would not purchase this, or another Winnebago product again.
That is an awful lot of stuff for sure, and I totally understand that terrible warranty process. Unfortunately most of the RVs are assembled with glue and staples if you really look deep. I've been through several different brands over the years and they all seem to be the same. Mostly overpriced and bad build quality. Hang in there and just focus on getting priority items fixed. Grass will likely not be greener with a different brand but you can definitely make a stand on where you money is spent. Good luck with the repairs.
Didn't know the chasis can be different brands.
Several different ones out there
you didnt say what was WRONG with the door ??
I have two other videos that explain the door problems more in detail and the fix for them. The door is not as good as the sales videos show. You have to slam the door pretty hard to get it to shut properly, the two latching mechanisms need to be line up perfectly to close properly, there will be gaps around the door showing daylight, the door handle will break if someone pulls on the outside, and the inside handle at the same time, and the integrated sliding screen will also eventually break. All repairable, but a little pain in the butt. I wouldn't let it be a deal breaker, but I would also not let it be a positive selling point. Hope that helps.
Why did you buy it, seems like a little more research would have moved you into a class A where most of the complaints would have been satisfied
Not sure what you mean. We had a class A diesel for 9 years prior to the Winnebago View. My kids were young and it was easier to get around in the Winnebago. We had the Winnebago for over 3 years. The kids grew fast like all kids. Not interested in a class A again at this time. Maybe sometime in the future again. Not sure if any of that makes sense.