@@Korrupt27 The best way I can describe it is that the bottom end of the notes sound richer, or brighter, resulting in a fuller sound, but it's like barely a difference.
Andrew has my old neck lol?? This dude is bleeding my dry. As a Selmer guy myself, I love playing Yamaha sometimes to remind myself of the differences. Oftentimes I think the cons of a Selmer are the pros of a Yamaha and vice versa. Feeling how smooth and sleek a Yamaha is helps me bring that back over to Selmer, even if I have to work a little harder for it. Love how low end softs feel on a Yamaha and how quiet the key action is.
@@Saxologic I’ve only tried it briefly, but it had much more of that evenness throughout registers that I like about Yamaha but still with that thick Selmer sound. More in tune than Series II’s and III’s too. Definitely an exciting horn, planning on getting one next year
I’ve had my custom now for almost a year and have loved every moment of playing it, it feels super versatile between both jazz and classical and the ease of playability is just amazing!
This cracked me up also! Otis is a great guy who was rocking the Yamaha Custom in 1990, as a high school student, before the official release. Not sure if it was an 855 or 875, but he let me play it and it was so much freer and better intonated than my Selmer S80. I think that Yamaha saved Selmer with this horn by forcing Selmer try harder.
I’m more of a Selmer guy myself, though I primarily play tenor, that alto sounded wonderful. Almost got me looking into one, ALMOST. Then I looked at my Selmer super action alto and said “nah, I think I’m good” 😂
Once you get to this level of playing the difference isn't really SO much about how it sounds versus how you feel playing it, beyond upgrading to an intermediate to professional level horn. Whichever is going to make you feel the most comfortable playing, the better. You should find a way to try out the Yani WO series ;)
you sound great on both but the newer horn felt like you had a bigger sound and were just overflowing the room with your sound, in a good way. Beautiful tone
I ended up preferring a Custom Z alto (that I got in black lacquer to match my tenor), but with a gold plated E1 neck. The Z feels more free blowing to me than the EX, but the E1 neck keeps the sound warm and controlled. Best of both worlds to me.
i’ve been watching your videos for a while and i played clarinet/bass clarinet but i just got my tenor saxophone! thank you for inspiring me to start saxophone :)
Happy Holiday! As someone who worked in the Band & Orchestral department of the flagship Sam Ash, it was always interesting to play all these back to back, and hear college students run through the gamut. While a YAS is an easy recommendation for anyone advancing, once the Selmer Axos came out, I always preferred them to a YAS62III for being partial to the projection/Selmer sound in a cheaper-scale pro horn (especially since they're now about the same price with inflation). For a higher price, I gotta say, I'm still always partial to a series II vs. an EX or Custom Z for very rounded players who genre jump, but EX's and Z's for those who stick more to Classical.
The Selmer Sax Player should noticed that the Intonation is much better on your Yamaha. Especially the Selmer III player. The sound is also more complex. Good Deal! Greatings from a Selmer Player.
I own a Selmer Series II sop (and sop is also my primary instrument), I honestly think that us Selmer players are just like magnets towards Selmers, lol. We get very used to the sound, and adapt to it. But Selmer's have a pretty unique sound not given off by other horns, and I think at least for me, that's what keeps me in the mindset of "I prefer to play Selmer's"
These are some bad boys! My ear tells me though that the Yamaha has more of everything. Projection- I can not really evaluate here, but i thought the Yamaha held its own. Also the tuning sounded better even when the other guys played the Yamaha. Thanks to you all. And what wonderful players you are. Wow! Love to hear the Supreme and the top Yanagisawa thrown into the mix.
Really strong playing, first and foremost. Musical. I wonder, just as Matthew mentions, is the question that of familiarity versus a horn quality issue. I think it would have added to the mix to get the Selmer guys to switch Selmers-see how that would stack up; possibly see if the Selmers inherently have a definable Selmer core, if that makes any sense. And again, you guys all sound very good. Eli, really good sound. I've always preferred a really good Selmer over a Yamaha (an exception being the "long bow" 134k VI I had compared to a "Purple Label" 62-the 62 was MUCH better), but I wouldn't sell my current VI's for anything but a better Selmer. Finally, what sounds best on this recording? Selmer, no question. You sound better on your personal horns. More "singing", interesting sound. BWDIK?
it actually does sound nicer and has more overtones than the selmers, especially in the upper register, every ones vibrato suddenly sounded super pro on the new Yamaha
ferling 22 is my technical this year, had a double take hearing it haha. I can definitely hear more warmth in the ex than the 62, and who knows the differences you feel lol. Have loved my Z for a few years now, but never tried an ex! Speaking of ex’s my 875 soprano is currently shipping from wwbw 👀
My friend has a Yamaha Custom EX Soprano and Tenor, and it doesn't float every person's boat, it feels like vanilla frosting, while I want that sort of dark kinda brown chocolate frosting, not saying you cant get a dark sound out of it, but others are better at it.
I felt this when choosing my soprano. I really like the custom Yamaha soprano saxes, less so the P Mauriat's and the Yanagisawa's. I ended up choosing a Selmer Series II, and I really love the comparison you made there because I was looking for chocolate frosting and I feel like for me, it was the Series II (with the Series III very closely behind, I almost bought that but the Series II won me over)
Nathan, you and the guys seem to be the ones who taught Mr. Muhle (sp.) and Mr. Rascher how to play European Classical Saxophone 🎷 (smile) You guys are exceptional 👏 (and rich, may I add) Thanks, champion 🏆
When you compared the 3,000 dollar saxophone vs the $250 saxophone my son wanted it for Christmas so I got it for him and within 2 days he could play careless whisperer really well
I played a series 2 in high school and for the first half of my undergrad. Then switched to an EX. Honestly not that different but the consistency of Yamaha has won me over. Every brand new EX plays and sounds the same for me, where as I played two Series IIs that were back to back serial numbers when I bought mine and one was a total dog. A good Selmer is great, but all Yamahas are that way it seems.
hello from Catalonia, I love your videos BTW what app you use to create sheet on Ipad??? I saw in one of your videos that u was transcribing a solo in your ipad but I didn’t see what app u was using. sorry for my english :)
At no point did I wake up this morning and think to myself, "today is the day that i watch somebody deep throat a saxophone cork", but here we are. There's no going back now.
Just a question on the comparison with the old horn (the yas-62). Did any of the mouthpiece set up change between the saxophones in the yas62 and 875EX comparison? If not, then the 875ex sounded fuller in both the low and higher ranges for sure. I've tried all of the horns throughout the video, including the Super Actions your friends had. My preference between all these horns was also the 875EX. I did end up choosing a cannonball(I ordered a custom horn) because I wanted certain custom qualities that they offered for a much smaller price, lol. Some of these qualities i chosewere aesthetic, but the primary thing that I wanted was the ability to have them raise the stones on the side keys to put less distance between my hands and the horn for those. I know it's a small thing, but I always hate when you get the palm key risers and they slide off. I didn't want a horn where I would have to spend thousands on, then immediately spend more money to set it up to my personal feel and preference.
With what I mentioned, I know most don't need risers for palm keys, I just know my bad habits of raising my hands too far off the horn for palm keys and chose to work on it and also get a horn that would assist in fixing those habits. Lol
Hello Nathan, good playing. The sound overall is very similar. The custom sounds a little more "composed" and focused (maybe that saxophone is also a little heavier?) than your old horn. But the differences are subtle, and maybe we can hear them only comparing the two side by side. I personally think that the player is way more important than the horn, assuming that the instrument is properly adjusted. In the past I did a comparison of way two different tenors a Selmer SBA and a Yamaha 475. Check it out if you want. ua-cam.com/video/fHzTyVj9-lM/v-deo.html
@@bacconbaccon4851 they were imply that Yamaha consistently builds satisfactory horns, i.e an A- horn, and Selmer inconsistently builds superior A+ horns but you have to work to find a good one. In my experience Selmer is inconsistent with setting up their horns. In many cases you need to send them to a skilled tech who can set them up properly which could include tone hole leveling, neck tenon fit, post hole alignment, key cup centering, etc. I had this done with my mark vis and they played like completely different horns, for the better. Just because you buy a horn new doesn’t mean it comes set up correctly.
@jimmymiller5465 Not exactly. The person who made that comment, Andrew, was talking about the quality of his *playing*, not the quality of the horn. He said the Yamaha makes it easier than the Selmer to get to the A- level in his performance. But if he wants to keep going, and reach the A+ level, the Selmer is better for that.
I played a Selmer series III for 10 years and recently switched to the Supreme. I like how yamahas play, but I've always been a bit underwhelmed by the projection, except for the few gold plated ones I tried from friends, but those are both unobtanium and expensive :/ So for me the Supreme was the perfect middle ground in the end. Also I'm loving the classical content!
I understand those fellows are used to their saxophones. But for classical performers, they were more focused on "projection" rather than on "tone-to-tone quality". They did not find time to listen carefully and hear that Custom Yamaha has more fluid action than their Selmers, better intonation control, resulting in much finer legatos without tone-to-tone transitional "peaks" or "handovers", which their Selmers exhibited. In other words, their Selmers sounded more like brass instruments, while Custom Yamaha sounded more like a human voice.
the saxologic classical era is feeding my soul
Me whenever someone does a direct comparison and I’m supposed to think they sound different 👁️👄👁️
I was reading your comments so basically as good as having closed eyes, still couldn't tell the difference XD
It’s kinda hard to tell sometimes but in my opinion the new one sounds brighter
@@Korrupt27 The best way I can describe it is that the bottom end of the notes sound richer, or brighter, resulting in a fuller sound, but it's like barely a difference.
Andrew has my old neck lol?? This dude is bleeding my dry.
As a Selmer guy myself, I love playing Yamaha sometimes to remind myself of the differences. Oftentimes I think the cons of a Selmer are the pros of a Yamaha and vice versa. Feeling how smooth and sleek a Yamaha is helps me bring that back over to Selmer, even if I have to work a little harder for it. Love how low end softs feel on a Yamaha and how quiet the key action is.
The maestro has spoken. Very interesting! What do you think of the Supreme, if you've tried it?
@@Saxologic I’ve only tried it briefly, but it had much more of that evenness throughout registers that I like about Yamaha but still with that thick Selmer sound. More in tune than Series II’s and III’s too. Definitely an exciting horn, planning on getting one next year
I should stop being surprised when you show up anywhere there's a saxophone being discussed.
@@disgruntled_llama guilty as charged
I’ve had my custom now for almost a year and have loved every moment of playing it, it feels super versatile between both jazz and classical and the ease of playability is just amazing!
brooo i LOVE your new classical sound it's sounding better and better. the casual talent from everyone in this video is insane
The zoom into Otis Murphy as Fantasia played absolutely killed me
This cracked me up also! Otis is a great guy who was rocking the Yamaha Custom in 1990, as a high school student, before the official release. Not sure if it was an 855 or 875, but he let me play it and it was so much freer and better intonated than my Selmer S80. I think that Yamaha saved Selmer with this horn by forcing Selmer try harder.
I could literally listen to you play on that yas-875 all day, the sound is absolutely beautiful and so smooth.
I’m more of a Selmer guy myself, though I primarily play tenor, that alto sounded wonderful. Almost got me looking into one, ALMOST. Then I looked at my Selmer super action alto and said “nah, I think
I’m good” 😂
THE LEGEND RETURNS! Merry Christmas Nathan!
You are the legend! Merry Christmas brother Rockett
Once you get to this level of playing the difference isn't really SO much about how it sounds versus how you feel playing it, beyond upgrading to an intermediate to professional level horn. Whichever is going to make you feel the most comfortable playing, the better. You should find a way to try out the Yani WO series ;)
Bro that new horn sounds so legit.
Not the TMEA etudes I thought I finally escaped them
Needs stickers
I’m in love with the YAS-875EX! I tried it out a couple of days ago (along with the YAS-62III) and I so badly wanted both horns 😫
Congrats on your new horn! Hope your 62 finds a new home quickly! Happy Holidays!
you sound great on both but the newer horn felt like you had a bigger sound and were just overflowing the room with your sound, in a good way. Beautiful tone
I ended up preferring a Custom Z alto (that I got in black lacquer to match my tenor), but with a gold plated E1 neck. The Z feels more free blowing to me than the EX, but the E1 neck keeps the sound warm and controlled. Best of both worlds to me.
i’ve been watching your videos for a while and i played clarinet/bass clarinet but i just got my tenor saxophone! thank you for inspiring me to start saxophone :)
Happy Holiday! As someone who worked in the Band & Orchestral department of the flagship Sam Ash, it was always interesting to play all these back to back, and hear college students run through the gamut. While a YAS is an easy recommendation for anyone advancing, once the Selmer Axos came out, I always preferred them to a YAS62III for being partial to the projection/Selmer sound in a cheaper-scale pro horn (especially since they're now about the same price with inflation). For a higher price, I gotta say, I'm still always partial to a series II vs. an EX or Custom Z for very rounded players who genre jump, but EX's and Z's for those who stick more to Classical.
The Selmer Sax Player should noticed that the Intonation is much better on your Yamaha. Especially the Selmer III player. The sound is also more complex. Good Deal! Greatings from a Selmer Player.
I own a Selmer Series II sop (and sop is also my primary instrument), I honestly think that us Selmer players are just like magnets towards Selmers, lol. We get very used to the sound, and adapt to it. But Selmer's have a pretty unique sound not given off by other horns, and I think at least for me, that's what keeps me in the mindset of "I prefer to play Selmer's"
2:21 Yes I love the Brahms sonata!
The video we’ve all been waiting for
AYYY WE MISSED YOU!
I can't imagine how many saxophones this man has... (Also where do you keep all your saxes)
These are some bad boys! My ear tells me though that the Yamaha has more of everything. Projection- I can not really evaluate here, but i thought the Yamaha held its own. Also the tuning sounded better even when the other guys played the Yamaha.
Thanks to you all. And what wonderful players you are. Wow! Love to hear the Supreme and the top Yanagisawa thrown into the mix.
Playability is the most important thing. If they don't like how it plays, it's a dud
Really strong playing, first and foremost. Musical. I wonder, just as Matthew mentions, is the question that of familiarity versus a horn quality issue. I think it would have added to the mix to get the Selmer guys to switch Selmers-see how that would stack up; possibly see if the Selmers inherently have a definable Selmer core, if that makes any sense. And again, you guys all sound very good. Eli, really good sound. I've always preferred a really good Selmer over a Yamaha (an exception being the "long bow" 134k VI I had compared to a "Purple Label" 62-the 62 was MUCH better), but I wouldn't sell my current VI's for anything but a better Selmer. Finally, what sounds best on this recording? Selmer, no question. You sound better on your personal horns. More "singing", interesting sound. BWDIK?
it actually does sound nicer and has more overtones than the selmers, especially in the upper register, every ones vibrato suddenly sounded super pro on the new Yamaha
They both sounded like classical saxophone to me
Me on my cannonball that hasn't seen a repair shop in at least 5 years.
Playing with Mr. Lulloff this weekend in Chicago! Im glad you made that reference lmao.
Only Selmer I ever played was when I had to borrow my teacher's VI for an audition. My bis key pad came off my 82Z an hour before my audition lol.
The second I heard the etude I started having flashbacks
ferling 22 is my technical this year, had a double take hearing it haha. I can definitely hear more warmth in the ex than the 62, and who knows the differences you feel lol. Have loved my Z for a few years now, but never tried an ex!
Speaking of ex’s my 875 soprano is currently shipping from wwbw 👀
My friend has a Yamaha Custom EX Soprano and Tenor, and it doesn't float every person's boat, it feels like vanilla frosting, while I want that sort of dark kinda brown chocolate frosting, not saying you cant get a dark sound out of it, but others are better at it.
I felt this when choosing my soprano. I really like the custom Yamaha soprano saxes, less so the P Mauriat's and the Yanagisawa's. I ended up choosing a Selmer Series II, and I really love the comparison you made there because I was looking for chocolate frosting and I feel like for me, it was the Series II (with the Series III very closely behind, I almost bought that but the Series II won me over)
I’m disappointed.
Nathan didn’t do his signature knife move. 😢
Nathan, you and the guys seem to be the ones who taught Mr. Muhle (sp.) and Mr. Rascher how to play European Classical Saxophone 🎷 (smile)
You guys are exceptional 👏 (and rich, may I add)
Thanks, champion 🏆
I'd say it converted me but that's already the one I'd have if cost was no object. But since I'm just an amateur my YAS-23 is good enough for me.
Great Horn
Nice Dahl Concerto 6:45
All horns are so personal.
No two saxophones are alike.
It really boils down to what you are used to.
Hey saxologic I love your vids especially your unboxing.
6:17 best part HAHA
Saxologic I need you to upload again… keep up the good work!
Compare to a Yanagisawa now!
Also, what tune was Eli playing @13:15 ?
When you compared the 3,000 dollar saxophone vs the $250 saxophone my son wanted it for Christmas so I got it for him and within 2 days he could play careless whisperer really well
NOO U DIDNT DO THE KNIFE THING
I have the yas875EXl and my B key was way to low and my C# was too high making my pinky get stuck frequently. I’m so glad I got it fixed😅
I have the same one in silver plate and love it!
it is so weird. I actually like your 62 more, it sounds more penetrating and clean.
1:32 LMAO THE FANTASIA
YESSS AN UPLOAD!
I played a series 2 in high school and for the first half of my undergrad. Then switched to an EX. Honestly not that different but the consistency of Yamaha has won me over. Every brand new EX plays and sounds the same for me, where as I played two Series IIs that were back to back serial numbers when I bought mine and one was a total dog. A good Selmer is great, but all Yamahas are that way it seems.
the furling 16 was really nice
Bro really played the all region music 💀
etude 3 feeling for region w
Nice job keep it up!
Nathan, I’m so close to pulling the trigger on buying the EXii. Did you buy directly from the manufacturer or from a retail store?
hello from Catalonia, I love your videos BTW what app you use to create sheet on Ipad??? I saw in one of your videos that u was transcribing a solo in your ipad but I didn’t see what app u was using.
sorry for my english :)
New video yessir
lol that yamaha kicked those selmers in the butt. selmer bro sounded was bigger on the Yamaha
I play Cannonballs and MacSax
How’s is the 62 with the v1 neck?
Lol I’m playing cedar tree in this and just was on your insta story, I promise I know other tunes
Did Syos stop making light purple colored mouthpieces?
At no point did I wake up this morning and think to myself, "today is the day that i watch somebody deep throat a saxophone cork", but here we are. There's no going back now.
Welcome, sir.
@@Saxologic ::calls therapist::
@jessekerley8625 *enters therapist’s office and you notice he has a secret drawer of dozens of saxophone corks*
@@Saxologic hahahaha perfect response!
Just a question on the comparison with the old horn (the yas-62). Did any of the mouthpiece set up change between the saxophones in the yas62 and 875EX comparison? If not, then the 875ex sounded fuller in both the low and higher ranges for sure. I've tried all of the horns throughout the video, including the Super Actions your friends had. My preference between all these horns was also the 875EX.
I did end up choosing a cannonball(I ordered a custom horn) because I wanted certain custom qualities that they offered for a much smaller price, lol. Some of these qualities i chosewere aesthetic, but the primary thing that I wanted was the ability to have them raise the stones on the side keys to put less distance between my hands and the horn for those. I know it's a small thing, but I always hate when you get the palm key risers and they slide off. I didn't want a horn where I would have to spend thousands on, then immediately spend more money to set it up to my personal feel and preference.
With what I mentioned, I know most don't need risers for palm keys, I just know my bad habits of raising my hands too far off the horn for palm keys and chose to work on it and also get a horn that would assist in fixing those habits. Lol
Of all of the concertos to demonstrate on…
wait. i thought you have a mark vi. why play either yamahas if you have a nice mark vi set up?
oh, is the yamaha for classical and mark vi for jazz?
when andrew tries the yamaha, whats the first somg he starts to play and they all laugh? it seems familiaf
Listening, I liked the Yamaha best, the Series II, then the Series III. This coming from a Ref. 54 player. LOL
Why sint you using the mark 6?
@6:17 LMAOOO
Do you still have your mark vi?
Does anyone know what mouthpiece Eli is using? At 13:14
Yamaha ex is so much clearer and darker
It says I got selected for the giveaway what do I do
You should get a baritone saxophone
WE MISSED YOU NATHAN
Hello Nathan, good playing. The sound overall is very similar. The custom sounds a little more "composed" and focused (maybe that saxophone is also a little heavier?) than your old horn. But the differences are subtle, and maybe we can hear them only comparing the two side by side. I personally think that the player is way more important than the horn, assuming that the instrument is properly adjusted. In the past I did a comparison of way two different tenors a Selmer SBA and a Yamaha 475. Check it out if you want. ua-cam.com/video/fHzTyVj9-lM/v-deo.html
Anyone else think second guy sounded better on the Yamaha
SELMER!
I NEED CLASSICAL SAX MUSIC AND SOME OF THESE ARE REALLY NICE DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY OF THEM??
28th viewer of the video of that means something
W
🕵️......👍
Saxolologic remember me I was at that prizm camp for all west and you took a vid of me so you could shout me out in your next vid but you didn’t
Oh shoot! I still have it in my phone, don’t worry I’ll still shout you out!!
Thanks bro
1000th viewer, lets go
Thank you ButterFly man!
@@Saxologic thanks
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Nathan, hi
Anyone willing to pay 200% more for a percieved 10% benefit is not very wise.
Nathan, can we see more of zack on your channel?
the new one is stuffier sounding.
spoiler: it did not
what are your thoughts on bari? they’re good thoughts, right? 🥲
I like the A- A+ comparison. That’s how I’ve always felt.
what does A- / A+ mean?
@@bacconbaccon4851 they were imply that Yamaha consistently builds satisfactory horns, i.e an A- horn, and Selmer inconsistently builds superior A+ horns but you have to work to find a good one. In my experience Selmer is inconsistent with setting up their horns. In many cases you need to send them to a skilled tech who can set them up properly which could include tone hole leveling, neck tenon fit, post hole alignment, key cup centering, etc. I had this done with my mark vis and they played like completely different horns, for the better. Just because you buy a horn new doesn’t mean it comes set up correctly.
@jimmymiller5465 Not exactly. The person who made that comment, Andrew, was talking about the quality of his *playing*, not the quality of the horn. He said the Yamaha makes it easier than the Selmer to get to the A- level in his performance. But if he wants to keep going, and reach the A+ level, the Selmer is better for that.
How’s is the 62 with the v1 neck?
Not gonna lie Yamaha's top series is amazing. That 875 sounds amazing. Same with the 82z. I love the sound!
I played a Selmer series III for 10 years and recently switched to the Supreme. I like how yamahas play, but I've always been a bit underwhelmed by the projection, except for the few gold plated ones I tried from friends, but those are both unobtanium and expensive :/ So for me the Supreme was the perfect middle ground in the end.
Also I'm loving the classical content!
not sure if he included that, but that's exactly what andrew and i thought, too. subpar projection compared to sii/siii.
I made the same transition as you!! I went from using a Yamaha 62 and almost 2 years ago I got a silver plated EX and I love it
I’m not really paying attention to the vs, just enjoying your gorgeous playing while I make breakfast here
“Selmer Boys” 😂
I understand those fellows are used to their saxophones. But for classical performers, they were more focused on "projection" rather than on "tone-to-tone quality". They did not find time to listen carefully and hear that Custom Yamaha has more fluid action than their Selmers, better intonation control, resulting in much finer legatos without tone-to-tone transitional "peaks" or "handovers", which their Selmers exhibited. In other words, their Selmers sounded more like brass instruments, while Custom Yamaha sounded more like a human voice.