Francisco first I was thinking to buy a gear cutter to make a nylon gear which cost like Euro 70, but thanks to your video I realize that I can make one of mild steel >So now I manage to make one for free . Muchas gracias and well done 🙂
Gracias, claro para templar el cortador se debe calentar los dientes con un soplete girando la rueda hasta que cada diente esté al rojo (800 grados aproximadamente.) Y luego sumergirlo en aceite . Después se hace el recocido en un horno a 350 grados aproximadamente durante dos horas y listo queda remplado.
Thank you, since it was intended to be used on a soft material, it was not necessary to harden it, but of course I could harden it before using it on harder materials.
Hola, Francisco. Muchas gracias por el video, nos resulta muy útil. Ya te puse un "like". Algnas preguntas: ¿el engrane es de un metal mas duro que el del cortador? ¿es necesario que así sea? ¿por "pinion" te refieres a un engrane común, o a cierto tipo especial de engrane? Te agradezco de antemano tu respuesta, y te envío un saludo desde México.
Hola amigo muchas gracias por preguntar, si efectivamente el engrane de por si debe ser más duro que el de cortador, así puedes utilizarlo para tallar en metales blandos como aluminio, bronce, duralumunio. Pero siel cortador se endurece con tratamiento térmico si lo puede usar para materiales más duros como el hierro o el acero. Cualquier duda bien puede preguntar. Saludos desde Colombia
Hola, interesante método y como le saca provecho a su mini torno. Dos preguntas: Cuál es el material del cortador y lo templó después de fabricarlo?. Saludos.
It worked fine on those soft materials, Did you harden it and test it on a carbon steel or alloy? I was wonderif it would have worked out good, I suspect it would have Since i may just start making my own set of cutters using maybe drill steel of sorts, and not being able to buy cutters on minimal income,
Thanks for commenting, yes, by treating it thermally it gains hardness and therefore it can work with harder materials, but not extremely hard. Thank you
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Not true. It will rub, and heat up, and lose it's temper. Also, the finished surface finish would be terrible, and you risk friction welding the cutter to the blank. There is ZERO relief angle on ANY of the teeth, and that is why it will rub, and cause more damage than good.
It's nice work, I am building a gear cutter also. I'm curious though, you started with the cutting disk, running it through a tooth of the gear, to get the module, then you prepared the disk to cut by the grinder? A single involute gear cutter is not expensive, I'm wondering why you did not just calculate your module and buy that one cutter? Or even a set fir $50, then you could make other sizes? Just for fun since I've been "grinding my own gears"(don't mention gears to my other half, ha ha), the gear you cut looks like a 1.5 module?
Изготовить самому модульную фрезу получилось неплохо, единственный я думаю недостаток будет в том что при подгонке модуля на шестерне донора она , донор тоже будет немного стачиваться , хотя и калёная и поэтому размер будет немного искажён. А так сделано хорошо. Дело мастера боится.
Not sure this will be any use a year after posting but I found you can get a new 'glass' from a watch to repair various dials. The 'standard' sizes in inch and metric increments (metric are easier to find cheap in my opinion?) I broke my indicator that I've had about 25 years and found a watch glass on eBay that fitted perfectly. It also keeps dust and dirt off the dial, probably more important with a caliper that gets used way more often than DTI?
Gracias . use acero supra 709 (acero 4140). no tiene tratamiento termico ya que lo uso en materiales blandos. si desea se puede templar y se podria usar en materiales duros
I am from Ukraine, I translate in Google translator, therefore, as translated.Good time! What steel was made of, and I understand there was no heat treatment, right? The idea is super, as for plastic gears and soft metals for the poor :)
Thank you for asking, if I use a supra 709 steel (Aisi 4140) it does not have a heat treatment because it is for soft materials, if you wish it can be quenched and it can be used for hard metals. Thank you.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Brand: 40HFA (substitutes: 40H, 65G, 50HFA, 30H3MF) Class: Structural alloyed steel Delivery type: long products, including shaped steel: GOST 4543-71, GOST 2590-2006, GOST 2591-2006, GOST 2879-2006. Calibrated bar GOST 8559-75, GOST 8560-78, GOST 7417-75, GOST 1051-73. Polished rod and silver: GOST 14955-77. Strip GOST 103-2006. Forgings and forged blanks: GOST 1133-71, GOST 8479-70. Use in industry: in improved condition - splined shafts, rods, set screws, traverses, excavator shafts and other parts operating at temperatures up to 400 ° C; after hardening and low tempering - worm shafts and other parts of increased wear resistance.
Thanks for commenting, of course it is easier to do it on a CNC, but in my opinion many people do not have this type of machine, and what I want is to do it on a conventional machine. Thank you
Thank you, yes in soft material it is much faster, but also use a harder material, but if you still require a hard material, it is necessary to do heat treatment and harder material can be cut
Thanks for asking, of course it lasts a long time if you use it on aluminum or other soft materials, but if you heat temper it, it can last much longer and you can use it on harder materials. Thank you Francisco Murcia
Probably one would not use "mild steel", if you actually intended to use it more than a couple of times... if you really hardened the "original" gear, you could use it as a cutting tool on annealed steel?
@@lohikarhu734. Yes is not ideal . I bought steel that can be hardened but I don't know and I don;t have the means to do that . (you could use it as a cutting tool on annealed steel?) I presume yes
I guess that you could heat treat an old pinion, first removing its hardness, cut a bit of relief angle on the gear teeth, and then harden the part...seems reasonable.
It was used at 3.30 as tool to cut shape of space between gear teeth on rim of new cutter wheel. The new cutter only cuts the space between teeth, does not cut proper tooth shape.
Der Fräser hat aber keinen Freiwinkel an den Schneiden. Er drängt sich höchstens durch weiches Material wie z.B Kunststoff. Als Zerspaner sollte man doch die Grundregeln der Zerspanung kennen.
Danke für den Kommentar, wenn es nur eine Demo für weiche Materialien ist. Bei harten Materialien müssen jedoch die Span- und Schnittwinkel berücksichtigt werden, und natürlich ist etwas, das nicht angegeben wurde, und die Wärmebehandlung, der dieses Stück unterzogen werden muss, wichtig. Danke
Hello, thank you for asking, in this case, if it is for machining soft materials, it does not require heat treatment, but if it is for hard materials, I recommend doing thermal tempering treatment with its respective tempering and in this way we improve the hardness. Thank you
will cut nylon gears but there is a step missing in it's fabrication. the cutter needs to be relieved. that way when it cuts the surface following the cutting edge doesn't rub as it follows the cutting edge. it you try this on aluminum or steel it's nearly useless even if it is hard and sharp enough. search eureka tool. the relief is simply done on an eccentric arbor but tricky. the tool makes it easy.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 You are a total a hole. You don't know cutting tools need to haveclearance RELIEF or they RUB?? That is the first thing machinists learn. YOU are NOT a machinist.
what a joke ! as a profesional gear cutter [ irl ] this is no way to produce any gear . a 3d printer could make many of thease without the janky cutter wheel that you could have simply bought rfom any engineering tool company .
The reason he decided to use a plastic for the final "example" is because had he used metal, we would have been able to see that this cutter has no back clearance for the cutter's teeth. without this relief, the teeth will rub all the way through the cut, heat up, and eventually fail, as well as produce horrible surface finishes. This is NOT how you make an involute cutter for cutting gears. The ONLY reason this works in this case, is because he's using plastic as the gear blank. even then, you can see that the cutting teeth are rubbing the entire way through the cut. If you're just going to make cheap plastic gears, just form them, there's absolutely no need for an involute cutter such as this, if you're going to be making metal gears this cutter isn't worth the time or effort, unless you back-relieve each tooth to give clearance on all sides of the cutter's tooth. any decent machinist's hand guide will have a reference to these clearances... a 4 second google search shows this diagram, illustrating the clearances required for proper, safe clearances: qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b96408277d7e3f6d2306a3a0634effd9
Thank you, you are right, but my idea was to demonstrate that a cutting tool can be made with a used pinion. However if you are ingenious you can make a cutting sprocket with a special steel material and then heat treat it if it works to cut hard metals. Thanks
Francisco first I was thinking to buy a gear cutter to make a nylon gear which cost like Euro 70, but thanks to your video I realize that I can make one of mild steel >So now I manage to make one for free . Muchas gracias and well done 🙂
Thanks for commenting, if it is a good idea and heat treatment can be done to work harder metals.
Thank you
It’s a great idea, for sure it’s very handy when you’re in a rush or just in the need to solve a low budget problem. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks, for soft materials it's a good idea
This is one of the most creative way of using the lathe machine i have ever seen, great job man!
Thank you friend for commenting. Cheers
Nice to see theEmco Compact 5 lathe. I have one of those - great and accurate machine.
Thanks for commenting, yes excellent machine although it is small, but with ingenuity and creativity you can do good things
Thanks for comment. Cheers
Hola Francisco, podrías decirme cómo templar un cortador de engranes?. Me estoy iniciando en actividades de metamecanica. Gracias.
Gracias, claro para templar el cortador se debe calentar los dientes con un soplete girando la rueda hasta que cada diente esté al rojo (800 grados aproximadamente.) Y luego sumergirlo en aceite . Después se hace el recocido en un horno a 350 grados aproximadamente durante dos horas y listo queda remplado.
Many thanks what a great idea, actually did you harden the wheel before you used it, so it would cut better and last longer?
Thank you, since it was intended to be used on a soft material, it was not necessary to harden it, but of course I could harden it before using it on harder materials.
Hola, Francisco. Muchas gracias por el video, nos resulta muy útil. Ya te puse un "like". Algnas preguntas: ¿el engrane es de un metal mas duro que el del cortador? ¿es necesario que así sea? ¿por "pinion" te refieres a un engrane común, o a cierto tipo especial de engrane? Te agradezco de antemano tu respuesta, y te envío un saludo desde México.
Hola amigo muchas gracias por preguntar, si efectivamente el engrane de por si debe ser más duro que el de cortador, así puedes utilizarlo para tallar en metales blandos como aluminio, bronce, duralumunio. Pero siel cortador se endurece con tratamiento térmico si lo puede usar para materiales más duros como el hierro o el acero. Cualquier duda bien puede preguntar. Saludos desde Colombia
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Muchas gracias por tu respuesta.
Hola, interesante método y como le saca provecho a su mini torno. Dos preguntas: Cuál es el material del cortador y lo templó después de fabricarlo?. Saludos.
Gracias por preguntar, el acero es sae 4140 y no se templo
SUPER IDEA! I NEVER SEEN THAT THE CUTTER WOULD BE MADE WITH THE HELP OF THE GRINDER
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Wow.. Spectacular job mate. Great Idea! Thank you for sharing 👍💫🙏
ok thank you for sharing
It worked fine on those soft materials,
Did you harden it and test it on a carbon steel or alloy?
I was wonderif it would have worked out good, I suspect it would have
Since i may just start making my own set of cutters using maybe drill steel of sorts, and not being able to buy cutters on minimal income,
Thanks for commenting, yes, by treating it thermally it gains hardness and therefore it can work with harder materials, but not extremely hard.
Thank you
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Not true. It will rub, and heat up, and lose it's temper. Also, the finished surface finish would be terrible, and you risk friction welding the cutter to the blank. There is ZERO relief angle on ANY of the teeth, and that is why it will rub, and cause more damage than good.
Great idea! I think you can heat treat it and use it to cut steel also.
Thank you. Yes of course, if the material is high carbon, it can be heat treated to work harder metals.
Great Video! Thank you for showing how it’s Done!!!
It's nice work, I am building a gear cutter also.
I'm curious though, you started with the cutting disk, running it through a tooth of the gear, to get the module, then you prepared the disk to cut by the grinder?
A single involute gear cutter is not expensive, I'm wondering why you did not just calculate your module and buy that one cutter?
Or even a set fir $50, then you could make other sizes?
Just for fun since I've been "grinding my own gears"(don't mention gears to my other half, ha ha), the gear you cut looks like a 1.5 module?
It said "Francisco" on it. I smash the like button.
ok, thanks for sharing
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 You are welcome. Thank you for everything you do. Your work is wonderful. Have a good day!
Great project and well done.
thank you for sharing
You can call it a hear..but it's really a gear ⚙️ 👌
Thanks for the correction is a gear
Other than what I think was a typo, this was a top quality video! Well done.
☝😉👍💯
Okay. thank you friend for commenting encourages me to keep going
Thank you
I found out why soft softs so different compared to Ableton. It is because there is a default limiter on the master that i didn't know about.
ok thank you
Molto interessante, molte grazie
ok Thank you
Изготовить самому модульную фрезу получилось неплохо, единственный я думаю недостаток будет в том что при подгонке модуля на шестерне донора она , донор тоже будет немного стачиваться , хотя и калёная и поэтому размер будет немного искажён. А так сделано хорошо. Дело мастера боится.
Спасибо за комментарий, возможно, в некоторых мягких материалах это может произойти, но в твердых материалах этого не произойдет.
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Fantastic methodology
Gracias
Nice video, thanks :) @8:01, perfect cut.
Thanks for commenting, I'll keep going.
nice work. whats the name of the tool/attachment you use to divide your cuts?
Thanks for asking, it's called a splitter head
Superbe travail merci beaucoup pour la vidéo 📹
Oka. Thank you
Great video. Where there is a will there is a way.
Thanks friend, excellent comment
Not sure this will be any use a year after posting but I found you can get a new 'glass' from a watch to repair various dials.
The 'standard' sizes in inch and metric increments (metric are easier to find cheap in my opinion?)
I broke my indicator that I've had about 25 years and found a watch glass on eBay that fitted perfectly.
It also keeps dust and dirt off the dial, probably more important with a caliper that gets used way more often than DTI?
ok, thanks for commenting, important appreciation
I want to make one to fabricate aluminum gear any suggestions
Thanks, no problem if you use steel to cut aluminum there is no problem.
greetings
Hi Francisco the material of the cutter is mild steel ?
Thank you for comment. Yes the material is mild steel
Excelente trabajo amigo,qué material has usado para construir la fresa? Gracias por el vídeo, Saludos!
Gracias . use acero supra 709 (acero 4140). no tiene tratamiento termico ya que lo uso en materiales blandos. si desea se puede templar y se podria usar en materiales duros
I am from Ukraine, I translate in Google translator, therefore, as translated.Good time! What steel was made of, and I understand there was no heat treatment, right? The idea is super, as for plastic gears and soft metals for the poor :)
Thank you for asking, if I use a supra 709 steel (Aisi 4140) it does not have a heat treatment because it is for soft materials, if you wish it can be quenched and it can be used for hard metals.
Thank you.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Brand: 40HFA (substitutes: 40H, 65G, 50HFA, 30H3MF)
Class: Structural alloyed steel
Delivery type: long products, including shaped steel: GOST 4543-71, GOST 2590-2006, GOST 2591-2006, GOST 2879-2006. Calibrated bar GOST 8559-75, GOST 8560-78, GOST 7417-75, GOST 1051-73. Polished rod and silver: GOST 14955-77. Strip GOST 103-2006. Forgings and forged blanks: GOST 1133-71, GOST 8479-70.
Use in industry: in improved condition - splined shafts, rods, set screws, traverses, excavator shafts and other parts operating at temperatures up to 400 ° C; after hardening and low tempering - worm shafts and other parts of increased wear resistance.
это наш аналог. как пишут в интете
Inspiring. Blessings from Argentina.
Gracias amigo por comentar, Saludos desde Colombia
Very nice, new sub here!
Greg
Ok, thank you for sharing
Sei un grande....
thank you for sharing
genial Francisco
Gracias a Usted
Very nice mini lathe
Ok Thanyou for comment
3:40 Oh I like. Good idea.
ok, thank you for comment
Good job Sir God bless 😇💕
ok, thankyou for sharing
Nice work
thank you for sharing
damn thats clever
Thank you
Olá, esse divisor foi foi quem fez?
Obrigado amigo, esse divisor vem original com o torno, é marca EMCO
Obrigado da Colômbia
Вот он , Франциско , во всей своей красе,
нарезал зубья на металлическом колесе!
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imho, much easier to do this mill on cnc lathe. it's no too hard and expensive to do simple CNC lathe
Thanks for commenting, of course it is easier to do it on a CNC, but in my opinion many people do not have this type of machine, and what I want is to do it on a conventional machine.
Thank you
on soft material a fly cutter is the quikest
Thank you, yes in soft material it is much faster, but also use a harder material, but if you still require a hard material, it is necessary to do heat treatment and harder material can be cut
Nice job
Ok. Gracias por comentar
Super!
Gracias amigo por comentar
Do you think it will last long the mild steel cutter if I use it on aluminum ?
Thanks for asking, of course it lasts a long time if you use it on aluminum or other soft materials, but if you heat temper it, it can last much longer and you can use it on harder materials. Thank you
Francisco Murcia
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Mild steel does not harden.
Probably one would not use "mild steel", if you actually intended to use it more than a couple of times... if you really hardened the "original" gear, you could use it as a cutting tool on annealed steel?
@@lohikarhu734. Yes is not ideal . I bought steel that can be hardened but I don't know and I don;t have the means to do that . (you could use it as a cutting tool on annealed steel?) I presume yes
Omg manually rotating I could never do this
It could not be done manually, but with the help of a lathe or a turning element, of course, it can be done. Thank you
Can make pinion and drive gear daiwa reel?
Ok Thanks for asking, yes of course it can be done.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 can ubmakr for me zilion ratio7.3 drive and pinion gear
What did he use to make the cutter out of ?
I used steel 4140. Thank you
I guess that you could heat treat an old pinion, first removing its hardness, cut a bit of relief angle on the gear teeth, and then harden the part...seems reasonable.
Thanks. good question, but since it is used for soft materials it does not require to support it
Top idea , well done.
Thank you for nice comment
still can't understand how the old pinion was used, may somebody explain?
It was used at 3.30 as tool to cut shape of space between gear teeth on rim of new cutter wheel. The new cutter only cuts the space between teeth, does not cut proper tooth shape.
@@victorbruce5772
Oh yes.. thanks alot!
Thanks for asking, the old sprocket tooth depth was used as a base to make the new cutter with the module and number of teeth.
Thank you.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327
Great thanks!
Did you harden the hob ?
If it can harden at 800 degrees Celsius
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Молодец
Ok. Thank you
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 🤝
视频很好，点赞订阅支持！😋
Thanks you
Good 👍
Oka thank you
Der Fräser hat aber keinen Freiwinkel an den Schneiden. Er drängt sich höchstens durch weiches Material wie z.B Kunststoff. Als Zerspaner sollte man doch die Grundregeln der Zerspanung kennen.
Danke für den Kommentar, wenn es nur eine Demo für weiche Materialien ist. Bei harten Materialien müssen jedoch die Span- und Schnittwinkel berücksichtigt werden, und natürlich ist etwas, das nicht angegeben wurde, und die Wärmebehandlung, der dieses Stück unterzogen werden muss, wichtig. Danke
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Thank you
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thank you my friend 👌👌
Térmica treatment??
Hello, thank you for asking, in this case, if it is for machining soft materials, it does not require heat treatment, but if it is for hard materials, I recommend doing thermal tempering treatment with its respective tempering and in this way we improve the hardness.
Thank you
No hardening?
Thanks for asking, it didn't harden as it is used on soft metals.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 that makes sense. great build mate!
A real machinist doesn’t use dies.
Single point that thread!
Thank you, good appreciation, but I wanted to show an easy way to make a pinion to machine soft materials.
5:28 Francisco qué haces hijo mio, te vas a quedar sin dedos
Gracias por comentar
Ах какой выдумщик этот парень ,
внесём его на металлообработки скрижали!
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The hand grinding looked a little sketchy...
thank you for comment
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Thank you for the content!
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Thank you
Rpm kenceng banget putaran nya
thank you friend
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thank you
a hear cutting????
Gracias. Gear cutting
Duuuude how are you using that angle grinder? Get a vise for your workpiece ffs
thank you
A hear cutter, really?, thats a new one eh
NO, Gear cutter
Yeah texting
Thank you
So complicated...]
thank you for sharing
Is there volume? I can't really gear anything. 😂 😂
Good comment. Thank you
will cut nylon gears but there is a step missing in it's fabrication. the cutter needs to be relieved. that way when it cuts the surface following the cutting edge doesn't rub as it follows the cutting edge. it you try this on aluminum or steel it's nearly useless even if it is hard and sharp enough. search eureka tool. the relief is simply done on an eccentric arbor but tricky. the tool makes it easy.
Beans 247 facts
Thank you
Pseudo fresa non spogliata! come fa a tagliare? video assolutamente disinformativo.
Gracias por compartir
You have no idea how a cutting tool works. That junk just RUBS the material off, it cuts nothing.
Thanks. It shows that you have no idea of the handling of engineering materials, Practice and you will learn a little more
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 You moron, You put NO clearance relief on ANY cutter teeth fool.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 Learn how to use a machine before you pretend to "teach" others.
@@billshiff2060 Dude, you have no idea about mechanics.
@@franciscomurciaprojects2327 You are a total a hole. You don't know cutting tools need to haveclearance RELIEF or they RUB?? That is the first thing machinists learn. YOU are NOT a machinist.
7 Hu 7
Thanks you
Muy mal esa forma de usar la radial
Tiene razón. Debí usar un sujetador o una prensa, pero por las características del diseño me tocó hacerlo de esa manera. Gracias por comentar
What is a hear cutter? You should check your spelling before releasing a video.
excellent comment, thank you
Grammer nazi how petty
Excuse him it was a typo error. You know we are not perfect human being. Thanks bro.
Grammer nazi how trivial
what a joke ! as a profesional gear cutter [ irl ]
this is no way to produce any gear .
a 3d printer could make many of thease without the janky cutter wheel that you could have simply bought rfom any engineering tool company .
Thanks for comment
DETALONAREA lipseste la aceasta scula aschietoare!
ok thank you
The reason he decided to use a plastic for the final "example" is because had he used metal, we would have been able to see that this cutter has no back clearance for the cutter's teeth. without this relief, the teeth will rub all the way through the cut, heat up, and eventually fail, as well as produce horrible surface finishes.
This is NOT how you make an involute cutter for cutting gears. The ONLY reason this works in this case, is because he's using plastic as the gear blank. even then, you can see that the cutting teeth are rubbing the entire way through the cut.
If you're just going to make cheap plastic gears, just form them, there's absolutely no need for an involute cutter such as this, if you're going to be making metal gears this cutter isn't worth the time or effort, unless you back-relieve each tooth to give clearance on all sides of the cutter's tooth.
any decent machinist's hand guide will have a reference to these clearances... a 4 second google search shows this diagram, illustrating the clearances required for proper, safe clearances:
qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b96408277d7e3f6d2306a3a0634effd9
Thank you, you are right, but my idea was to demonstrate that a cutting tool can be made with a used pinion. However if you are ingenious you can make a cutting sprocket with a special steel material and then heat treat it if it works to cut hard metals. Thanks